you can absolutely tour with just a Push Standalone. Like all standalone gear, there is a ton of preparation and rehearsal. Some choose to just "go with the flow" because they can just rely on backing tracks (which Push is more than capable of providing on it's own). You might be overthinking everything mate and that's no insult. I contend that you just build a single session template, using mostly audio clips of a "rehearsal set" jam out those tunes using Live Desktop and once you have a decent marriage between theory and practice, you can take it to the venue.
Wassup Dylan, great video Bro!! 1 year late, but I've had my Push 3 Standalone for 2 weeks, and I'm in love, Team Ableton for sure lol! Started using Controller Mode yesterday, and it's making it easier for me to understand the software! Keep doing your thing my Brother!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
I have a Push 2 which is my favorite device but I don’t know if MPE is enough for me. For stand alone i have an MPC live 2, MPC Key and Maschine plus. I would have to sell two of those to get a push 3 stand alone, or just the Maschine plus or MPC key to get a push 3 controller. I don’t know if it’s worth it. Videos like this can help me decide though. I hope to see more videos where you’re in the zone creating rather than demonstrating.
I’d recommend watching my video from yesterday, the song I ended up making isn’t amazing but it’s a nonstop 42 min of creating from scratch. That said, at this point in my gear journey I’d say if those other devices are bringing you joy I wouldn’t recommend selling them. Alternatively given that the MPC platform is nearly identical on the live and the key, you might be able to justify selling one or the other
@@DylanParisMusic thanks man! I’ll check that out! Right the Key would have to go. They will have to pry the Live from my dead drumming finger tips lol The key was a freebie but I do love it and I have a push already so not compelling enough to upgrade yet. I’m on the waitlist for Ableton to loan me a Push 3. I’ll make a decision then.
really love your notes progression at 6:54! I would like to buy push3 controller to make live version of my songs but I'm not sure if it's the right choice. I'm searching something that can trigger clips, manages clips volumes, controls effects in real time (delays, filters, timeshaper and stuff) and plays instruments in ableton. Will be the right choice or should I go with something else? Also I was thinking to take it with ableton12 standard (I'm an fl user). Thanks!
Thank you! You may want to look into the Novation Launchpad Pro mk3, it does most of what you mentioned. The push 3 does more than the LP Pro but it’s much more expensive.
Thanks for this video! I just put an order in for the controller version. I have not played a live show since 2017 so it would be silly of me to buy a standalone version when chances are I'm not playing out live again. I also picked up an Arturia Keylab 49 MK 3 so it's time to check out what all the fuss is about with Pigments!
I gave a lot of thought trying to decide between the controller and the stand alone. For me the biggest factor is that I use love to use XO and DrumComputer for drums. Going stand alone is not worth the sacrifices. Plus, I can always connect to my M1 Air and pretend it is stand alone. But honestly, does anyone in the audience care if you have a computer in your setup? I've been using computers on stage since the late 1980's.
@DylanParis. What would you recommend more for creating music. MPC Key37 or the Push 3? I want ro create on hardware and edit and add in Ableton Live Thanks Man!!! Great content!
Hi there! Which route did you take? After researching more I found that the MPC Key 37 is not bad, but it’s really an outdated / hyped / expensive hardware. For Ableton users a Push 3 as controller it’s already a nice solution, add any 37 key controller if you need it.
If you’re cool with being plugged into a computer and you already have Ableton (especially suite), push controller is a pretty solid deal, push standalone is pricey but nice to have that full standalone functionality. If you don’t have Ableton yet then the key 37 might be better value imo.
thanks for sharing your experience. i do have one question: on samplers like the maschine, mpc etc., i love the button workflow. however, i always found the buttons on the push 2 realy stiff and not a pleasure to press. are you satisfied with the clickiness/behaviour with the push 3 buttons ?
I don't know what kind of music you make (yet), but a great way to start finding out what you'll actually do live is to DJ in the local scene of the genre of music would fit in. It kind of breaks the ice and you just add and try more and more live stuff without the pressure to be perfect. You learn to pace a show and you find out how you can mix and match approaches in the same show. Playing live gives you the best feelings, you got to give it a try!
I appreciate the insight! One of my issues as far as this idea goes for me is just that I don't really fall into one genre or scene so it makes that part tricky as well as general marketing. I try not to limit myself by genre and rather just what i want to make at a given time. I'd say someone like Beck or the Gorillaz are a good example of the sort of genre hopping I do. I tend to call my stuff "pop" or "indie electronic" lately but those are big umbrellas.
hey does your mpe also requires like alot of force to stay consistent and not to trigger different pad instead of staying in mpe? Also are your knobs/faders with different tension as well?
Gratefully no, the MPE has been really consistent and sensitive, and the knobs have been mostly identical but there may be some differences I didn’t notice
Great to see push vids. And thx for reminder about pigment! I’ve been using my SA as an instrument with audio out going to Luna for recording. I am enjoying not depending on midi
@@DylanParisMusic also, you make a point about potentially using a simpler/cheaper/smaller device to do a live set if you're going to just bake sounds. This is possibly always true. More gear is always a solution but comes with its own obvious problems. The benefit to me is that I can use the same unit for controller or standalone. Also, Push 3 is great at integrating with a modular live set (4x CV and 8 in 8 out with ADAT plus 2x analog inputs). I haven't needed to bake everything either, I only bake some stuff - more for reasons of reducing the number of tracks to reduce horizontal scroll than for staying under CPU limits but perhaps that's just me. Previously with Push 1 I needed a laptop, even if I'm only running a few drum loops.
@@DylanParisMusic For sure, Im going to wait till im happy with it before i register the Standard. But, I think for someone like myself who just wants to make weird looping noises, this could be a lot of fun.
I watched your video and then went to BandCamp to check out your album. You sound like Bernard Sumner of New Order. I'm halfway through your album, and I actually like every track so far. My only critique would be, your sole voice sounds so lonely. Consider recording backing vocals to layer up your vocals to add that missing presence. Think Tori Amos or even Sam Smith. 💖
So disappointed in standalone. I figured by now they would fix some of the glaring flaws. Or give us some new options. things we can do that the controller can’t. . Instead we have to hack into it to rename the favorites folder🤦♂️. I’ll never buy any of their hardware right out of the gate again.
I get the disappointment in a product that have flaws out of the gate. Sadly it does seem that this is the way development is done these days. I think you can expect it will take years before it the product seems fully baked. I don't get the idea of the expecting that it should do more, or things different, in stand-alone mode. The idea is that it is consistent between the two. It's the same product - the only difference being computer power.
Don't plan your live sets, learn to switch-on your set-up and make the sounds you love... in a continuous in flow. LIVE sets don't need to be perfect, it's lIVE after all... it should feel like someone is just pulling together beats, sounds... and trying to keep a flow and keep the crowd happy, it shouldn't be produced and synthetic in composition. Stop arranging, stop making those loops that you listen to over and over... and just go with the flow. Eventually you'll develop the ability to do it naturally and keep that flow without having to worry about whether the next track is 'queued' or whether it 'fits' with what's being played. And let's be honest, most people listening to you live aren't trying to pick out bad transitions... they're trying to find the bits they love!
@@DylanParisMusic i will test, play with it, learn the workflow, make you Videos how your push 3 looks, so that you see, that i care about it and treat their right and send it back to you if i am on the point where you are right now. That you not dopaminazes by it anymore. Sharing is caring. 😅
If you enjoy the video please consider checking out my album “There’s Something Better” wherever you listen to music: hyperfollow.com/dylanparis
I bought the Push 3 controller and a used MacBook Air M1 for $700. Super portable set up.
Genius move in my opinion 👏😎
@@DylanParisMusic I really wasn't impressed with an intel core i3 and 256 gb SSD for an extra $1000... no thanks.
I honestly got a little blinded by the hype, an apple silicon laptop makes a whole lot of sense for that money
@@DylanParisMusic They're already doing sales on the push 3 stand alone ($300 off until Nov 30).
you can absolutely tour with just a Push Standalone. Like all standalone gear, there is a ton of preparation and rehearsal. Some choose to just "go with the flow" because they can just rely on backing tracks (which Push is more than capable of providing on it's own). You might be overthinking everything mate and that's no insult. I contend that you just build a single session template, using mostly audio clips of a "rehearsal set" jam out those tunes using Live Desktop and once you have a decent marriage between theory and practice, you can take it to the venue.
I genuinely appreciate the insight! thanks for watching and thanks for sharing
Wassup Dylan, great video Bro!! 1 year late, but I've had my Push 3 Standalone for 2 weeks, and I'm in love, Team Ableton for sure lol! Started using Controller Mode yesterday, and it's making it easier for me to understand the software! Keep doing your thing my Brother!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
Thanks friend! Welcome to the push 3 world! Hope it treats you well, it’s been getting better and better
@@DylanParisMusicThanks so much, I'm definitely excited!
Good to see more control mode videos on TH-cam thank you Dylan.
Thanks for watching!
the quality of your videos is legit AF.
you definitely should have more subscribers in the coming year.
thank you! been really stoked to see the growth this year and how nice people who watch the videos tend to be. Very grateful.
The "Imma use this for a live set" relatability statement just saved me a whole 1000 dollars.
This is the Best Push 3 Video. I hate the PR Like Reviews. This is very very good by just watching you over the shoulder
Best honest opinion Push 3 video on the tube and showcasing Pigments ❤ in MPE mode is incredible
Thank you 🙏😎🖤
I have a Push 2 which is my favorite device but I don’t know if MPE is enough for me. For stand alone i have an MPC live 2, MPC Key and Maschine plus. I would have to sell two of those to get a push 3 stand alone, or just the Maschine plus or MPC key to get a push 3 controller. I don’t know if it’s worth it. Videos like this can help me decide though. I hope to see more videos where you’re in the zone creating rather than demonstrating.
I’d recommend watching my video from yesterday, the song I ended up making isn’t amazing but it’s a nonstop 42 min of creating from scratch.
That said, at this point in my gear journey I’d say if those other devices are bringing you joy I wouldn’t recommend selling them. Alternatively given that the MPC platform is nearly identical on the live and the key, you might be able to justify selling one or the other
@@DylanParisMusic thanks man! I’ll check that out!
Right the Key would have to go. They will have to pry the Live from my dead drumming finger tips lol
The key was a freebie but I do love it and I have a push already so not compelling enough to upgrade yet. I’m on the waitlist for Ableton to loan me a Push 3. I’ll make a decision then.
@@jacksp8de So... did you get a Push 3? How do you like it?
@@notsogood9449 I bought it. It’s my main tool for making beats. I love it
This video deserves a lot more upvotes.
Thank you! Appreciate you watching!
Have the abilities to use Max 4 Live devices improved appreciably since your video with Pink Buddha? Thanks
really love your notes progression at 6:54! I would like to buy push3 controller to make live version of my songs but I'm not sure if it's the right choice. I'm searching something that can trigger clips, manages clips volumes, controls effects in real time (delays, filters, timeshaper and stuff) and plays instruments in ableton. Will be the right choice or should I go with something else? Also I was thinking to take it with ableton12 standard (I'm an fl user). Thanks!
Thank you! You may want to look into the Novation Launchpad Pro mk3, it does most of what you mentioned. The push 3 does more than the LP Pro but it’s much more expensive.
@@DylanParisMusic thanks man!
Thanks for this video! I just put an order in for the controller version. I have not played a live show since 2017 so it would be silly of me to buy a standalone version when chances are I'm not playing out live again. I also picked up an Arturia Keylab 49 MK 3 so it's time to check out what all the fuss is about with Pigments!
I gave a lot of thought trying to decide between the controller and the stand alone. For me the biggest factor is that I use love to use XO and DrumComputer for drums. Going stand alone is not worth the sacrifices. Plus, I can always connect to my M1 Air and pretend it is stand alone. But honestly, does anyone in the audience care if you have a computer in your setup? I've been using computers on stage since the late 1980's.
Honestly that sounds like a really good setup to me
You are sooooo Honest & funny
@DylanParis. What would you recommend more for creating music. MPC Key37 or the Push 3? I want ro create on hardware and edit and add in Ableton Live
Thanks Man!!! Great content!
Hi there! Which route did you take? After researching more I found that the MPC Key 37 is not bad, but it’s really an outdated / hyped / expensive hardware. For Ableton users a Push 3 as controller it’s already a nice solution, add any 37 key controller if you need it.
If you’re cool with being plugged into a computer and you already have Ableton (especially suite), push controller is a pretty solid deal, push standalone is pricey but nice to have that full standalone functionality. If you don’t have Ableton yet then the key 37 might be better value imo.
thanks for sharing your experience. i do have one question: on samplers like the maschine, mpc etc., i love the button workflow. however, i always found the buttons on the push 2 realy stiff and not a pleasure to press. are you satisfied with the clickiness/behaviour with the push 3 buttons ?
I have no issues with the buttons on the push 3 so far, I think I like them more than the mpcs. The pads are better than any device I’ve ever used
I don't know what kind of music you make (yet), but a great way to start finding out what you'll actually do live is to DJ in the local scene of the genre of music would fit in. It kind of breaks the ice and you just add and try more and more live stuff without the pressure to be perfect. You learn to pace a show and you find out how you can mix and match approaches in the same show. Playing live gives you the best feelings, you got to give it a try!
I appreciate the insight! One of my issues as far as this idea goes for me is just that I don't really fall into one genre or scene so it makes that part tricky as well as general marketing. I try not to limit myself by genre and rather just what i want to make at a given time. I'd say someone like Beck or the Gorillaz are a good example of the sort of genre hopping I do. I tend to call my stuff "pop" or "indie electronic" lately but those are big umbrellas.
hey does your mpe also requires like alot of force to stay consistent and not to trigger different pad instead of staying in mpe? Also are your knobs/faders with different tension as well?
Gratefully no, the MPE has been really consistent and sensitive, and the knobs have been mostly identical but there may be some differences I didn’t notice
Appreciate the video man!
appreciate you watching!
really enjoyed this
I’m glad to hear it! Thanks for watching
Great to see push vids.
And thx for reminder about pigment!
I’ve been using my SA as an instrument with audio out going to Luna for recording.
I am enjoying not depending on midi
Radical! Thanks for watching and sharing your workflow!
make sense completely.. Too good
Standalone is dope. It does have its own learning curve, even for people who have a lot of experience using Push as a controller.
Agreed
@@DylanParisMusic also, you make a point about potentially using a simpler/cheaper/smaller device to do a live set if you're going to just bake sounds. This is possibly always true. More gear is always a solution but comes with its own obvious problems. The benefit to me is that I can use the same unit for controller or standalone. Also, Push 3 is great at integrating with a modular live set (4x CV and 8 in 8 out with ADAT plus 2x analog inputs). I haven't needed to bake everything either, I only bake some stuff - more for reasons of reducing the number of tracks to reduce horizontal scroll than for staying under CPU limits but perhaps that's just me. Previously with Push 1 I needed a laptop, even if I'm only running a few drum loops.
@chromosundrift great points! I appreciate your insight and sharing your experience with it 🙏
dang namit, made me buy Push 3 and got the Standard upgrade... thanks...
Hahaha oh no!! Make sure to test the hell out of it during the return window to make sure it’s right for you! I do really like mine
@@DylanParisMusic For sure, Im going to wait till im happy with it before i register the Standard. But, I think for someone like myself who just wants to make weird looping noises, this could be a lot of fun.
Get a m2 Mac Mini for $499. It’s dead silent and super capable for Ableton if you aren’t using giant Kontakt sample libraries.
Oh yeah if people don’t need portable a mini is a potentially cool option
But then you’d still need a display
Pigments in MPE is soooooo great!!!
Right??
Wow mate, thank you for.your video. 😊
thanks for watching!
I watched your video and then went to BandCamp to check out your album. You sound like Bernard Sumner of New Order. I'm halfway through your album, and I actually like every track so far. My only critique would be, your sole voice sounds so lonely. Consider recording backing vocals to layer up your vocals to add that missing presence. Think Tori Amos or even Sam Smith. 💖
Thank you! I really appreciate you giving it a listen! 🙏🙏
So disappointed in standalone. I figured by now they would fix some of the glaring flaws. Or give us some new options. things we can do that the controller can’t. . Instead we have to hack into it to rename the favorites folder🤦♂️. I’ll never buy any of their hardware right out of the gate again.
Yeah being an early adopter continues to be a suckers game, and I continue to be one of the suckers lol 😂
@@DylanParisMusic just glad I’m not alone with that thought.
I get the disappointment in a product that have flaws out of the gate. Sadly it does seem that this is the way development is done these days. I think you can expect it will take years before it the product seems fully baked.
I don't get the idea of the expecting that it should do more, or things different, in stand-alone mode. The idea is that it is consistent between the two. It's the same product - the only difference being computer power.
Don't plan your live sets, learn to switch-on your set-up and make the sounds you love... in a continuous in flow. LIVE sets don't need to be perfect, it's lIVE after all... it should feel like someone is just pulling together beats, sounds... and trying to keep a flow and keep the crowd happy, it shouldn't be produced and synthetic in composition. Stop arranging, stop making those loops that you listen to over and over... and just go with the flow. Eventually you'll develop the ability to do it naturally and keep that flow without having to worry about whether the next track is 'queued' or whether it 'fits' with what's being played. And let's be honest, most people listening to you live aren't trying to pick out bad transitions... they're trying to find the bits they love!
I mostly agree but i do want to perform my album songs which are like full pop / indie songs with vocals and stuff
@@DylanParisMusic have a swift whiskey, don't be scared about it sounding s*@t. Share the video! :-)
Bro i have been playing live set ups for 2 months think them as a remix a DJ set it will feel so much right
Send me the push 3 for some month 🙂
Hahaha if I get crazy big I’ll look into giveaways with company partners 🤣
@@DylanParisMusic i will test, play with it, learn the workflow, make you Videos how your push 3 looks, so that you see, that i care about it and treat their right and send it back to you if i am on the point where you are right now. That you not dopaminazes by it anymore. Sharing is caring. 😅
Hahaha sorry man no can do, also I’m still using it and making videos regularly 🤣
@@DylanParisMusic damn, good ok. i will watch your videos instead and dream i'm am the guy on the push 3 😀
Waist of time.
🤷
actually I realized a funnier response to your comment would be "this video has a body like an hour glass, cause it's a 'waist' of time"