Yes, I'm currently working on a pack with Drift presets and new sample pack. Let me know if there's anything you'd be interested in, I'm always open to suggestions for new packs.
Drift sounds from you! It will be 💣💣💣. Honestly, I was going to suggest it to you... I just bought a sound pack for Drift from Subsocial Studios, but it's not quite right. Of course, what you presented in the Drift video, setting up different types of bass, and what you use in your productions, that's my cup of coffee. I'll be the first buyer. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I’ve got to agree man, controller mode really feels like the best of both worlds to be honest. Most people would be better off buying an m1 MacBook Air for the extra 1k
Yeah man, I watched your video on the same topic. And it's definitely a bit too much if you can get brand new Macbook Air for the same price, which is way more powerful and battery lasts longer.
Yep. If it was an M1, 16GB memory, 512 ssd and longer battery life, the $1,000 over controller would be worth it. As it is, the stand alone isn’t a good deal, imo.
Great information...After trying the maschine mk3 and the mpc live 2, I'm thinking of trading them both in for the push 3. I can not justify the heavy premium for the standalone version with such a low spec, so i think I'll go for the controller. If someone gets a 3rd party NUC working, it would be a fraction of the ableton premium.
Yeah, the standalone capability is quite expensive. The spec is not that bad though. I’m not sure it would be possible to fit a more powerful cpu and still be able to cool it as the Push gets quite warm anyway.
I’ve been producing music with dawless stand-alone devices such as mpc one, digitone and few other synths. It’s cool option for jamming and creating everything within those boxes. After 2/3 years I’ve decided (this week) that I’m going to build hybrid setup with push. So far it was a great idea. Firstly because I can record everything separately and have more control (before last thing in a chain was sp 404, I was recording signal previously mixed within the devices). I think I’m a bit tired with dawless setup and I want to go back to Ableton and it non limiting workflow :) it
Yup, I've always been attracted to dawless, looks fun for messing around. But for actually finishing and releasing music, a DAW like Ableton makes me more productive. In fact the track I made in this video was just released as part of my latest EP.
i really enjoy the freedom of just firing up the push 3 SA and starting a beat, with less distractions, but i do find myself with a bunch of sketches that are just sitting there in my Push. i can see how the controller mode may allow for finishing tracks
I hear you. But yeah, when the track is already on your computer, going from session to arrangement and refining it there is just totally frictionless.
Thanks for the advice. I did get the controller version right when the stock was replenished and love it! I had no idea all the video plugins would be auto mapped as devices which eliminates the need for an extra controller for visuals. I have an MPE guitar that is great but the push is much much better for those precise changes. game changer....
Great video, thank you for sharing. I've just punched the Push 3 controller as I'll be using it with my iMac. I'm quite new to Ableton so I'm interested to see how people use the push 3 in controller mode. I would like to see a video on how you mix & master your music. Cheers.
great process, dope track-,, and i relate to You on this because,, i'm a producer.. not a performer,, so ease of launching clips etc, isn't my thing-,, i've been back n forth on if i even need it,, i Love my push 2,,- that convert button is life for me LOL -getting 3 would pretty much be for when i travel which i do quite a bit-,, or when i don't feel like being locked in front of my screen sitting where i usually sit-- Totally agree when you said certain functions just go quicker with keyboard & mouse ,, but tapping in beats,, navigating samples etc is predominately what i'd be using it for-,,-
Thanks so much for all the creative inspiration. I love you videos. Is it possible to connect external synths while in Controller Mode usuing the Push 3 interface? If so, do you do lessons? Thanks for your consideration?
Hey, glad you’re liking the videos! It should be possible. And yes I do 1-on-1 lessons on Zoom but I don’t have the Push 3 anymore. It was on loan from Ableton and I’ve sent it back.
Probably because everyone was so hyped about the standalone but also because there isn’t any difference between them except for the built-in computer in the standalone.
Standalone gives you extra flexibility for live situations, for "out of the desk" set ups and such. The greatest idea that Ableton had with this device is giving us the choice to upgrade if we want or need to do that without having to buy a new machine.
I've really been questioning the overall usefulness of standalone devices haha. I don't think it can really be the end-all-be-all. In the past before DAWs, everything had to go through the studio to become a complete recorded song. DAW is a full music studio. No standalone sampler/sequencer, at all, comes the slightest bit close to what DAWs are meant to do. DAW is a FULL SCALE studio capable recording environment. I am starting to wonder if a lot of this is just really effective marketing that really isn't offering anything that valuable. Or maybe it's just people trying to find the role of what is essentially a new form of instrument. I don't know, just thinking "out loud." Haha
P.s. I use Push 2 and have an SP404 MK2. Push 2 is much better environment than all of the standalone devices I use. It offers me the tactile focus and muscle memory, but doesn't slow anything down unnecessarily.
Yes, best of both worlds is where it's at. I don't know if it's marketing, I guess people are always saying they want standalone in comments and companies giving them what they want.
@@LowHeatBeats Yeah it's hard to tell, like the chicken or the egg paradox haha. But I'm starting to feel really content with my Push 2. I mean, I play piano/keys, so nothing portable will be able to replace a real piano, or at least my 65lb hammer action 88 key workstation. Certain parts of the creative process just aren't meant to be portable and that doesn't mean they're less significant.
Aha!!!! Was just asking Dylan Paris if this idea would work. Use Push 3 connected to Computer, turn off Monitor and not touch Mouse n Keyboard for like 90% of things. My idea is Non Stnadalone 3 and Heavy duty Computer so I get the standalone lime experience but with all my VST’s and M4L devices tho I assume there will be some issues. Ive been doing lots of vstpreset files with most used controls mapped so I can search on my current Push 1 even and use its Encoders to control the VSTs. Now back to watching this video!
Yeah standalone is cool, no doubt, but I like using a computer tbh. As I said in the video I'm more productive with it and it makes it easier for me to finish tracks.
I bought the MPC Live 2 because there wasn't a Push 3 yet at the time. Meaning: a mobile standalone DAW-in-a-box that allows you to sketch out ideas (and finish them on the computer) everywhere. So what do you think is missing on the Push 3 as a standalone groove box compared to the MPC and the Maschine Plus?
Nothing is missing if you ask me it does what I need it to do. It's great but a bit too big and heavy for being mobile. I'm keeping my Push 2 for now and enjoying the flexibility and power of Ableton Live on the M1 Mac with all my plugins, etc. I actually like to make music on a computer.
I notice you cut the video straight after finishing a part. Kind of stressful to not having a controller in front of you when using the keyboard to the side of the desk?
Yeah, it’s not very comfortable. I want to get a desk with a keyboard tray so I can have the keyboard in front of the computer and not to the side of the desk.
I would like to get the controller only version and try out the workflow. curious of your opinion on not having the standalone option at purchase but available for the upgrade. main reasons are mpe and in/out not needing another audio interface. I do have the launchpad pro, usb-c mixer and a rack mount midi mix xl in/out. but was hoping to have it for live shows instead of all the work arounds.
I think it's great - if you decide you need it after all and you upgrade later it will cost the same as buying it with the standalone option form the beginning. I do think the standalone option isn't the most practical and rational purchase though. You can buy a brand new Macbook Air to use with the controller version for less and get more power and battery life. Ableton on my Mac has been more stable than Push 3 standalone as well.
@@LowHeatBeats Thanks and I appreciate the response. I am honestly just a little tired of workarounds. I use the 1010 blackbox, m8 tracker, op-z, launchpad pro and synth modules and trigger with ableton but would rather sell a few of these devices and sort of combine them plus the in/out audio.
I just copped the Push 3 controller to replace my Push 2. I'm not sold on the SA version just yet due to the low memory and no VST use. My Push 2 is having the material issues as well, where the device is getting sticky on the sides. Great video, cheers!
Glad you're diggin' the video! Tbh I'll be sticking with my Push 2 for the time being, only because I don't use it to its full potential anyway and the P2 still works perfectly for my needs.
@@LowHeatBeats Yeah, probably, however Im sure there are a lot of new Push owners who never had the Push 2, and there are at least some differences between the 2 and 3. Idk, if you ask me theres an opportunity to fill a niche content gap.
If you're referring to the computing power of Push, I think it's sufficient for a standalone device. It's more powerful than similar devices like Maschine Plus and MPC. A more powerful CPU would probably require a fan and I wouldn't want that.
@@LowHeatBeats i wish they would utilize the ARM architecture instead of intel for the same reason. Its quite astonishing that they finally built the standalone. They said this was the plan from day one from 10y+ ago, but it took them multiple steps to get there. I played 10+ live sets with the standalone, and I really enjoyed it, but 8-10 channels is the maximum it can handle comfortably at 48khz. Anything on top of that will start seriously deteriorate the UI display time. Luckily the sound driver and the inputs are still top priority, but the visual feedback can go down to 5 FPS when it gets too much load. With my external M1 Max CPU i can not only run VSTs, but on top of that i can stack up 14-16 channels without any performance penalty. For the standalone, its great what it is already, but the moment they offer an upgraded CPU, i'll upgrade.
@@neonvoid Hey, I appreciate you sharing your experience. I work at 44.1 and just make some ideas on the standalone, so it's fine. But yeah, M1 is definitely better and I don't mind using a computer, I actually like computers lol
Even the MPE feature,cause that has me excited but not crazy enough to drop that kinda cash for it alone ..I'm a maschine user though so there's that 😅
I’ve been using the push 2 forever but the ability to just take the Push away from the studio and continue wherever you go just disconnect and walk off with ableton Push 3 in standalone mode is priceless I love that new option
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Are you planning anything new on Gumroad? Thx.
Yes, I'm currently working on a pack with Drift presets and new sample pack. Let me know if there's anything you'd be interested in, I'm always open to suggestions for new packs.
Drift sounds from you! It will be 💣💣💣. Honestly, I was going to suggest it to you... I just bought a sound pack for Drift from Subsocial Studios, but it's not quite right. Of course, what you presented in the Drift video, setting up different types of bass, and what you use in your productions, that's my cup of coffee. I'll be the first buyer. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome! Yeah absolutely, this is the type of sounds that will be included in the pack.
You have great talent..subscribed! I want to see your mix process.. I'm thinking of moving to Ableton for a while.
Thanks for the sub! Yes, I will make that mixing video, so stay tuned.
@@LowHeatBeatsI would also like to see your mixing process
I’ve got to agree man, controller mode really feels like the best of both worlds to be honest. Most people would be better off buying an m1 MacBook Air for the extra 1k
Yeah man, I watched your video on the same topic. And it's definitely a bit too much if you can get brand new Macbook Air for the same price, which is way more powerful and battery lasts longer.
Yep. If it was an M1, 16GB memory, 512 ssd and longer battery life, the $1,000 over controller would be worth it. As it is, the stand alone isn’t a good deal, imo.
Great information...After trying the maschine mk3 and the mpc live 2, I'm thinking of trading them both in for the push 3. I can not justify the heavy premium for the standalone version with such a low spec, so i think I'll go for the controller.
If someone gets a 3rd party NUC working, it would be a fraction of the ableton premium.
Yeah, the standalone capability is quite expensive. The spec is not that bad though. I’m not sure it would be possible to fit a more powerful cpu and still be able to cool it as the Push gets quite warm anyway.
I’ve been producing music with dawless stand-alone devices such as mpc one, digitone and few other synths. It’s cool option for jamming and creating everything within those boxes. After 2/3 years I’ve decided (this week) that I’m going to build hybrid setup with push. So far it was a great idea. Firstly because I can record everything separately and have more control (before last thing in a chain was sp 404, I was recording signal previously mixed within the devices). I think I’m a bit tired with dawless setup and I want to go back to Ableton and it non limiting workflow :)
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Yup, I've always been attracted to dawless, looks fun for messing around. But for actually finishing and releasing music, a DAW like Ableton makes me more productive. In fact the track I made in this video was just released as part of my latest EP.
@@LowHeatBeats That’s my conclusion. It is just easier to finish songs. Awesome I’ll get it a spin 🙌🏻
i really enjoy the freedom of just firing up the push 3 SA and starting a beat, with less distractions, but i do find myself with a bunch of sketches that are just sitting there in my Push. i can see how the controller mode may allow for finishing tracks
I hear you. But yeah, when the track is already on your computer, going from session to arrangement and refining it there is just totally frictionless.
Beat sounds nice! Man you put a lot of work in making this videos, all the best!
Thank you! It is indeed a lot of work, so you watching and commenting is much appreciated!
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Thanks fam!
Thanks for the advice. I did get the controller version right when the stock was replenished and love it! I had no idea all the video plugins would be auto mapped as devices which eliminates the need for an extra controller for visuals. I have an MPE guitar that is great but the push is much much better for those precise changes. game changer....
Awesome! Sounds like you’re really putting it to good use.
Great video, thank you for sharing. I've just punched the Push 3 controller as I'll be using it with my iMac. I'm quite new to Ableton so I'm interested to see how people use the push 3 in controller mode. I would like to see a video on how you mix & master your music. Cheers.
Hey, much apprciated! I will be posting that mixing video, just have't found the best way to exlpain it yet.
great process, dope track-,, and i relate to You on this because,, i'm a producer.. not a performer,, so ease of launching clips etc, isn't my thing-,, i've been back n forth on if i even need it,, i Love my push 2,,- that convert button is life for me LOL -getting 3 would pretty much be for when i travel which i do quite a bit-,, or when i don't feel like being locked in front of my screen sitting where i usually sit-- Totally agree when you said certain functions just go quicker with keyboard & mouse ,, but tapping in beats,, navigating samples etc is predominately what i'd be using it for-,,-
For sure! Appreciate you watching and sharing your perspective 🫡
Thanks so much for all the creative inspiration. I love you videos. Is it possible to connect external synths while in Controller Mode usuing the Push 3 interface? If so, do you do lessons? Thanks for your consideration?
Hey, glad you’re liking the videos! It should be possible. And yes I do 1-on-1 lessons on Zoom but I don’t have the Push 3 anymore. It was on loan from Ableton and I’ve sent it back.
Thanks! Hard to find ANY reviews of just the controller.
Probably because everyone was so hyped about the standalone but also because there isn’t any difference between them except for the built-in computer in the standalone.
Amazing brother crazy talented
Thank you so much man!
Standalone gives you extra flexibility for live situations, for "out of the desk" set ups and such. The greatest idea that Ableton had with this device is giving us the choice to upgrade if we want or need to do that without having to buy a new machine.
Yup, upgrade option is a clever move.
I've really been questioning the overall usefulness of standalone devices haha. I don't think it can really be the end-all-be-all. In the past before DAWs, everything had to go through the studio to become a complete recorded song. DAW is a full music studio.
No standalone sampler/sequencer, at all, comes the slightest bit close to what DAWs are meant to do. DAW is a FULL SCALE studio capable recording environment. I am starting to wonder if a lot of this is just really effective marketing that really isn't offering anything that valuable. Or maybe it's just people trying to find the role of what is essentially a new form of instrument. I don't know, just thinking "out loud." Haha
P.s. I use Push 2 and have an SP404 MK2. Push 2 is much better environment than all of the standalone devices I use. It offers me the tactile focus and muscle memory, but doesn't slow anything down unnecessarily.
Yes, best of both worlds is where it's at. I don't know if it's marketing, I guess people are always saying they want standalone in comments and companies giving them what they want.
@@LowHeatBeats Yeah it's hard to tell, like the chicken or the egg paradox haha. But I'm starting to feel really content with my Push 2.
I mean, I play piano/keys, so nothing portable will be able to replace a real piano, or at least my 65lb hammer action 88 key workstation. Certain parts of the creative process just aren't meant to be portable and that doesn't mean they're less significant.
Yes. Please do the mix video.
Will do!
Another great video. Thanks bro!
Appreciate you watching bro
Aha!!!! Was just asking Dylan Paris if this idea would work. Use Push 3 connected to Computer, turn off Monitor and not touch Mouse n Keyboard for like 90% of things. My idea is Non Stnadalone 3 and Heavy duty Computer so I get the standalone lime experience but with all my VST’s and M4L devices tho I assume there will be some issues. Ive been doing lots of vstpreset files with most used controls mapped so I can search on my current Push 1 even and use its Encoders to control the VSTs. Now back to watching this video!
Yeah, I think it works exactly the same way, just its "brain" is inside the computer. Appreciate you watching the video!
Standalone is just a matter of some cables more or less. If you have the money go standalone, it’s a no brainer.
Yeah standalone is cool, no doubt, but I like using a computer tbh. As I said in the video I'm more productive with it and it makes it easier for me to finish tracks.
Sweet beat 🎶
Much appreciated!
That’s beats was hard my boy
Thanks g, I appreciate that!
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Thanks!
I bought the MPC Live 2 because there wasn't a Push 3 yet at the time. Meaning: a mobile standalone DAW-in-a-box that allows you to sketch out ideas (and finish them on the computer) everywhere. So what do you think is missing on the Push 3 as a standalone groove box compared to the MPC and the Maschine Plus?
Nothing is missing if you ask me it does what I need it to do. It's great but a bit too big and heavy for being mobile. I'm keeping my Push 2 for now and enjoying the flexibility and power of Ableton Live on the M1 Mac with all my plugins, etc. I actually like to make music on a computer.
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I notice you cut the video straight after finishing a part. Kind of stressful to not having a controller in front of you when using the keyboard to the side of the desk?
Yeah, it’s not very comfortable. I want to get a desk with a keyboard tray so I can have the keyboard in front of the computer and not to the side of the desk.
I would like to get the controller only version and try out the workflow. curious of your opinion on not having the standalone option at purchase but available for the upgrade. main reasons are mpe and in/out not needing another audio interface. I do have the launchpad pro, usb-c mixer and a rack mount midi mix xl in/out. but was hoping to have it for live shows instead of all the work arounds.
I think it's great - if you decide you need it after all and you upgrade later it will cost the same as buying it with the standalone option form the beginning. I do think the standalone option isn't the most practical and rational purchase though. You can buy a brand new Macbook Air to use with the controller version for less and get more power and battery life. Ableton on my Mac has been more stable than Push 3 standalone as well.
@@LowHeatBeats Thanks and I appreciate the response. I am honestly just a little tired of workarounds. I use the 1010 blackbox, m8 tracker, op-z, launchpad pro and synth modules and trigger with ableton but would rather sell a few of these devices and sort of combine them plus the in/out audio.
I just copped the Push 3 controller to replace my Push 2. I'm not sold on the SA version just yet due to the low memory and no VST use. My Push 2 is having the material issues as well, where the device is getting sticky on the sides. Great video, cheers!
Glad you're diggin' the video! Tbh I'll be sticking with my Push 2 for the time being, only because I don't use it to its full potential anyway and the P2 still works perfectly for my needs.
Theres a real lack of coverage of the Push 3 controller version. Everyone is covering the standalone.
True. Probably because it works in very much the same way as the standalone version and also there's not much of a difference compared to Push 2.
@@LowHeatBeats Yeah, probably, however Im sure there are a lot of new Push owners who never had the Push 2, and there are at least some differences between the 2 and 3. Idk, if you ask me theres an opportunity to fill a niche content gap.
Good tip, thanks! Let me see if I can make another vid about before I send my loan unit back to Ableton.
Control mode is great, unless you want to have a retro vibe in standalone mode an experience how it was working with a 10y old laptop :)
If you're referring to the computing power of Push, I think it's sufficient for a standalone device. It's more powerful than similar devices like Maschine Plus and MPC. A more powerful CPU would probably require a fan and I wouldn't want that.
@@LowHeatBeats i wish they would utilize the ARM architecture instead of intel for the same reason. Its quite astonishing that they finally built the standalone. They said this was the plan from day one from 10y+ ago, but it took them multiple steps to get there. I played 10+ live sets with the standalone, and I really enjoyed it, but 8-10 channels is the maximum it can handle comfortably at 48khz. Anything on top of that will start seriously deteriorate the UI display time. Luckily the sound driver and the inputs are still top priority, but the visual feedback can go down to 5 FPS when it gets too much load. With my external M1 Max CPU i can not only run VSTs, but on top of that i can stack up 14-16 channels without any performance penalty. For the standalone, its great what it is already, but the moment they offer an upgraded CPU, i'll upgrade.
@@neonvoid Hey, I appreciate you sharing your experience. I work at 44.1 and just make some ideas on the standalone, so it's fine. But yeah, M1 is definitely better and I don't mind using a computer, I actually like computers lol
@@LowHeatBeats absolutely... also everything is a computer these days :)
Honestly push3 has no MAJOR advantage over Push2. I have the controller version and it is a workflow enhancer but nothing revolutionary.
I think you summed it up well brother.
Even the MPE feature,cause that has me excited but not crazy enough to drop that kinda cash for it alone ..I'm a maschine user though so there's that 😅
@@king6463MPE is overrated anyway, we don’t see any records out today that showcases it. And if there are, we wouldn’t notice
I’ve been using the push 2 forever but the ability to just take the Push away from the studio and continue wherever you go just disconnect and walk off with ableton Push 3 in standalone mode is priceless I love that new option
too much fire - youre adding to climate change bro!
lmao I appreciate you man 🙏
Might as well just keep the push 2
I may do just that, still considering it.
Why pay $1000 or $2000 for mpe
Yeah, I don't really have much use for MPE tbh.
i would absolutely never use standalone mode
Yeah, I’m always around my computer and also Push is too big and heavy to be portable.