In Defense of FORSPOKEN... well kinda.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
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Merry christmas and happy holidays. I made this in record time and now im sick lol. hope everyone enjoys and PLEASE watch the video if you disagree with me. Like fr, im sure you don't disagree with me as much as you think.
Love this video and how aligned we were in it. I wish they could patch it 😭😭😭
I think this same game NOT being open world, being more focused, and being shorter and more to the point would have been a good way to go. I think the empty as fuck open world made this game come off a lot worse than it was. I mean yeah the writing is a bit wonky but it could be B movie fun if you don't take it too seriously. I think this was the year devs should learn that not ever game needs to be open world. In fact, most games shouldn't be open world. Unless you can fill the giant open world with things worth finding and doing, keep it small and stick to the point.
6/10 feels incredibly generous. I was hyped for this game but I personally struggle to give it a 5/10.
Fantastic video!
Thank you so much for watching. I appreciate that!!
Funfact, they wanted Brandon Sanderson to write for the game, but he was too busy writing for another game. Such a shame.
It feels like they wanted this to be their elden ring.
Never cared much for this game to begin with, but this was the first video i saw that gave a good review on it. Not just dunkin on all the crap everyone else was. This video popped up randomly for me but if you do these unbiased thought out reviews im sold. Gonna subscribe and check out your other videos. Keep stuff like this up. We need more reviewers that think for themselves
I think that, at least on the content creator space, they always fall for dog-piling on stuff. Whenever something is considered bad by a large number of people you'll see hundreds or thousands of videos about how bad this game is. If a game is considered good by a majority, the opposite, long 4 hours essays about what a masterpiece this game is. And then when the heat dissipates you have the "I was wrong with" and people will come to the defense of certain games or maybe they'll release a video with "10 reasons why this video game that everybody likes is actually bad and overrated". It's the cycle of internet. I think that, except maybe for Gollum or Kong, no game that was shit on during last year is as bad as they paint it. For example, I really enjoyed Gotham Knights, but according to TH-cam creators is the worst thing to ever happen.
You're absolutely right, but on the bright side, people really like when there's someone willing to cover a game with raw honesty, and that's a good thing.
Plus Gotham knights is fine. 👌🏽
Honestly gollum is fine. Its just buggy to shit and looks bad but like fallout 4 or the forgotten city bad but the gameplay was fine and the story was fine. I liked the idea at the end with little thing or was it small thing. I also liked how ya had to convince gollum's split personality to go along with your choice and if ya fail ya do what ya didnt select. Both were good character moments. No i didnt play it cuz of the bugs but i did watch it and yeah for the devs(they only made point and click games before) it was fine. Wasnt $60 fine but $30-40 fine.
Gothem knights annoyed me cuz it was not balanced for solo experience in mind. So i stopped playing after 2 hrs.
Yea most TH-camrs end up parroting other TH-camrs to farm views, with the idea that if people watched their video then those same people might watch their own video and if they copy the same narrative with a similar title they might pop up on that algorithm smh puppet world
Wait, let me get this straight...
-Quipy "Cool" POC main character that unlocks some unique power.
-Open world gameplay with fun unlockable movement mechanics.
-3rd person shooting/melee gameplay.
-Gaining new powers though the story that complete change the moveset.
-Fighting the government.
Forspoken is just Isekai Infamous Second Son!
Pretty accurate tbh 😂
If it came out around the same time i wonder who would get shit on for being the copy cat?
I said this lol it's exactly the same
@Kris-wo4pj yeah they didn't the same thing yet the 10 year old game did it much better than this trash. Also there are ways to make quirky and fun characters without turning them into hateble shitheads.
Well funnily enough, the French dubbing of this whole story was... So well done they ironed out most of the cringe of these dialogues by having competent writting on top of exceedingly good actors for both Frey and Cuff, special mention to the translation team for finding a way to give Cuff a NAME without it just being the word, they went with her calling him a "really bad looking cuff" in a really ridiculous way "Un bracelet poukrave" (no I kid you not) and instead of using the item part of the derogatory calling "bracelet" they went with using the actual insult with Cuff thus being called "Krav" in french.
This went on to give him somehting that SOUNDS like a name, yet is a freaking insult to his face, and makes the banter actually fun, as orginally Cuff pushes back against the idea, before he ultimately rolls with it in clear and utter resignation.
In the end I booted the game worried about the horrendous writting, which even with a great ranslation trying to make it better, remained horrendous for all the modern parts, yet the moment the game truly began, things brightened and I had fun, the banter slowly became funnier with time, the characters actually got to develop, it was nice.
While the story remained cliche as all hells, in the end I actually had fun playing the game.
This is actually a pretty enlightening read. If that were the case in English, I think that would be infinitely more endearing.
@@KinzieK I can confirm, also minor peeve from me. Frey's cat, as a cat guy myself, I would NEVER do that to a cat, abandoning it to someone else. While cats don't really seem to care much, they are actually animals of habits, ripping them off of them is absolutely horrible for them and... Well it was studied that cats actually get much better at changing their habits with a person they know rather than by preserving their habits to a degree yet changing the person caring for them.
I wish to talk more of this but if you ahven't finished the game I won't say much more, and if anything if what I said interested you maybe giving the game a go changing the voices to another language could help enjoying things more ?
I'm not against playing it again, but that would most likely be waaaaaay down the line, but I really appreciate your input. 😊
@@KinzieK It's nothing hearing the few english lines you got through really made me appreciate the work of the french trnslation team.
Maybe i'll rent the game again and put it in french with english subtitles. I play all the yakuza gsmes in japanese like that so all the same to me.
I loved how you used Ni No Kuni music in this video. I get some Ni No Kuni vibes from this game, story wise.
Sorry to disappoint, but I don't think I've used any Ni no Kuni music at all.
@@KinzieKah, maybe Gravity Rush
Yea, it's Old Town from Gravity rush ❤️
"You on crack, boo boo..." I died
Came for the critique
Stayed because hella good commentary and vibes
Double staying because Gundam content on the channel
I hope you enjoy your stay of course! Thanks for watching 😁
I see what the developer were trying to do with her talking to herself dialog it was a little annoying but a character who been homeless and no parents and beginning of the story she always in trouble a kinda understood the direction
You know I played for spoken and it's okay the only thing I really really makes me cringe is the dialogue it's a million times better than the Last of Us Part 2 I can tell you that much
Quirky characters that are self-aware is an overused trope. People are thirsty for characters that can take their own world seriously, and react to it like a normal person would do.
I personally don't mind the trope if it's done well, but I understand people getting tired of it.
Correction people are tired of badly rewritten quirky self aware characters. People are fine with those characters in james gunn movies.
@@Kris-wo4pj the people in James Gunn movies act properly within their world, they don't look at the camera or talk to themselves in a cynical manner.
That "did i just do that?" quote from forspoken happens in so many Marvel movies when you have a new hero discovering his powers, when you notice it, it becomes really annoying.
Dude, your review is INCREDIBLE. Hilarious, insightful and brilliant.
Please do this for TLoU Part 2.
To be honest, TLoU is not my style gameplay wise but I watched a full playthrough. rest assured, I disagree with like 90% of people who didn't like it. Was a great movie watching experience LMAO
And thank you so much for watching. I really appreciate it
The sheeps hating on this game i've always found very odd. Spider Man one of my favorite games of all time is praised as being the second coming of christ yet everyone who reviewed Spider Man never criticize how incredibly awkward the dialaouge is with new york citizens. They all act like robots, yet you never hear the same of level of complaints. Even FF15 got roasted by some but didn't get crucified like Forspoken & Final Fantasy 15 has a lot of legendary cringe, even though i still like the game overall. Unfortunately there's another issue "ADULTS" lol. Adults take the fun out of everything and many people are victims of political warfare, so there was a lot of jokes about her being a chocolate lady and the haters calling it "woke" before it even came out. When it's really that Anti social Justice warriors are just as sensitive as Hyper SJW'S. Frey can be cringe at times but that is HER character & are we not going to pretend that Dante from DMC doesn't have cringe moments? I love Dante but he can also be a cringe legend. Yet again you don't hear the same outrage. Unfortunately adults allow politics to intervene in everything they do & it actually brainwashes them into illogical thinking because of their biasness. Does this game have flaws? absolutely but those flaws aren't bad enough for hiveminds to act like it's the worst game or even one of the worst games of all time. I really hope they make a 2nd one and go even harder & bigger the 2nd time. This game is totally worth $40 bucks or under imo & has so much potential.
I'm hoping that I was able to convey the fact that the dialogue is far from the most important thing about the game. It's silly, but not a determining factor in game feel for me personally. Fun to poke fun at, though. 👌🏽
@@KinzieK Oh apologies if it seemed that way but that comment is not towards you. Loved your review, made me laugh a lot when i needed it. I loved this video.
the dialogue sucks.
Yeah, but Borderlands 2 was using the cringe in its favor. It was intentional. Forspoken is trying to be dramatic.
I believe I said that the dialogue didn't hit the same in Forspoken for this exact reason.
LMFAO! This video got me dyinng. You said "this bitch burgles" hahahahha. immediately subscribed.
There will be plenty more where that came from, yo. Welcome! 😁
Seeing this good of a vid with this amount of views makes me so mad. You are fucking hilarious dude
Ok my whole thing with how she reacts to learning she has powers... tell me you wouldnt freak the fuck out if one day you wake up in some fantasy land and then realize you have special powers... you know damn well youd be like holy fuck i just did fucking magic.. whoever says they wouldnt react like that is a liar.. like come on quit lying
Idk if you're saying that in reference to my video, but I am pretty sure I said that I would react like her, I just wouldn't say it the way she did. I think the way they wrote it is silly, but I don't mind her reaction.
@@KinzieKthink they mean everyone who makes fun of her reaction.
Please do more roasting pleeeeaaaseee I kinda addicted
i loved this commentary. I wanted to love this game but after about 2 days or so, i gave up.
Borderlands and Archer are both satire. Forspoken is trying to be serious. That’s why people hate the dialogue and general writing.
Great video wish there were more like it on your channel anyway love the content
I really hope that people stop trying to mimic the Marvel movie style of writing for characters. It personally triggers this thing in my mind that prevents me for feeling or caring about the character because there is no way any living being acts and talks like that genuinely.
I understand what you're saying. Using that style of writing is fine when it's appropriate, it just never felt appropriate here. Not all the time anyway. The alley scene was ungodly hilarious.
New favorite review channel, easiest sub ever
Dayum welcome to the cute bitches! 😁😁
Did I just watch this video with my mind?
Kudos 🎉
With your FREAKING mind? 😂 Ty for watching!!
@@KinzieK Now I have to beat gnarly beasts with my cuff.
Vambrace!
They really messed up that game.
I recommend Sunset Overdrive.
I actually like it in general, but i fell off of it. It's pretty fun though.
holy shit this was funny! never seen your videos before, but thank you for some good belly laughs. also found it useful, as i'm one of the kinder folks who was still planning on giving Forspoken a try one of these days. you've definitely convinced me it's not worth it.
I'm extremely glad I could make you laugh so much! 😁
😁👍nice video, the way I saw forspokeen was I thought it was a fun game, yeah it has it problems, like some real bad character designs, made everyone that wasn't the antagonist or fray kind of ugly, I'm guessing they wanted realism but resident evil and devil may cry does it some much better, like they make the characters gorgeous but still somewhat still grounded in real life, the world is big and vast but very empty with no one to interact with, but all and all still a fun game to me, heck my favorite power was the water ability so cool.
Merry Christmas kinziek!
This game is special. It's not just regular cringe, it's like a cringe singularity.
It does just have a spicy kick to it, doesn't it 😂
my mind had to take its time off before the lag caught up.
Lol I bought this game literally just the other day since it was on sale. There would be no way i'd buy this at full price. Lucky for them it was like 20 dollars....well, 30 and DLC included.
1. Merry Christmas Kinzie❤
2. I did play the demo and kinda liked it for the most part. Gameplay felt good enough, the premise was decently interesting, but the dialogue killed it for me. Protag girl's constant cringe inducing swearing and bickering really ground my gears to the point of me actually hating her.
Edit: nice nails
Thank you for the compliment 😁 and merry Christmas to you as well!
@@KinzieK Thank you. 😊
I really wanted somebody to answer "ground my gears" exactly the way fre reacted to "cahoots" just to be annoying.
Writing backwards on the window was funny indeed))))
Wait why do u sound exactly like Jarrett Hill from the Fanti podcast??
I looked them up. I kind of hear it, but only kind of 😂
IS THAT THE VINE LOGO ON THE SHOES @4:27?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You telling me you NOT rocking the vine boom 11's? Crazy
@@KinzieK 🤣🤣🤣
Borderlands never made me laugh, but the fun was there.
Yea, if someone doesn't find it funny, at the very least it was appropriate for the game to be that way so it never got in the way as much.
@@KinzieK That as well. It was before everyone wanted to be wacky and sarcastic by default.
Much love to you.
"Please take... several seats."
4:09 Sony game vibe
Damn... but that Black Oni link though?
In the description by Cutest Guest Star 😊
Yay kinzie buu I missed you
I've got to give this game a try, sometime soon. I wanted it for awhile.👀
It honestly wasn't the dialogue, or the memes and shitposts, that turned me away. It was the fact that it felt exactly like FFXV. 😅The movement and parkour felt so similar. I was replaying 15 at the time, I was not ready for even more 15.
I literally never thought about it until someone said something about it. It really does feel like FFXV lowkey😂
@@KinzieK It was strangely the first thing I noticed about the demo, Frey had the exact same button press delay when jumping and dodging. It felt so familiar that I dipped out. 😂
Alright. dropping my video earlier. christ.
Hell yea. Hoping it pops off 🤞🏽
@KinzieK thank you 😁 it won't be on this channel but my new one i wanted to introduce next year but i gotta do it now lol
watch fiona and cake
Eventually 👌🏽
9:24 even the Dino DNA from yugioh gx sounds more natural!
I REMEMBER THAT LOL
@@KinzieK the first yaoi card game you never forget!
Borderlands 2? False😂 far from comparable
BL3? 100% right. Flatout unfunny "that just happened" humor
I personally believe both games did it. BL2 wasn't as bad, but it still had the quirky humor. Don't get me wrong either, that was just my first thought, definitely not the focus of my video.
Games that were very hated when they were released and in the following years, but that later ended up gaining a new audience that knew how to appreciate them? yes they exist and something tells me that Forspoken belongs to those
Yea, forspoken absolutely has a core fanbase. No hate to them or anything, they can do what they want.
It doesn't belong there at all.
This game is awesome.It's fun to play who gives a fuck what anybody says
Are you reacting to my title and thumbnail or to my actual video, cause I think it's fun too.
I've watched so much of this game and i still have no idea why it's called Forspoken lmao
To forspeak means to cast a bad spell over, which makes me think that someone spent a few minutes searching for a title that sounded cool and was only slightly related to the games plot 😂
@@KinzieK To cast a bad spell? Well it's accurate to the spell loadout I tell you hwat
Stopped watching when you went on about how "stupid" it would be that she'd look for the cat first of all. Reality check: yes, most pet owners would do just that and f*ck the bag with the money! Do both? Maybe, but it would be critter first, GTFO second, and bag a low third.
It's called multitasking. If that's where you stopped, then I struggle to believe you'll enjoy the rest. See ya.
Holy fck dude calm tf down.
People like you literally suck the fun out of everything.