Thanks a lot. This year I started via ferrata in Slovakia and with helping of your videos I did multiple and latest one was "E"... and without resting system I would definitely fail.
That’s fantastic to hear-congrats on tackling an "E" level! It’s great that the videos helped you push through, and I totally agree-a good resting system can make all the difference on those tougher routes (even if I know for sure I can go through I will still have the resting system on me. I always am ready to use the resting system when going on new Level E routes). Well done for pushing your limits and making it through! Keep up the great work, and I’m excited to hear about more of your future adventures. Stay safe and keep climbing strong! 💪🧗♂️
You don't need one because you use Petzl Adjust (I'm not ironic). Look, for the sake of it I will once use my Petzl Adjust as my reliable resting system as well. Let's see how that goes.
Resting implies static load of the sling. There shall be no reason to fall. If properly utilised, a fall shall be static enough to not load the sling to the degree of a rupture of the sling itself or as you say, with dramatic effects on the structure of our body. It is true, dynamic rope can in the right circumstance help. Again, resting systems are for resting and if properly loaded there shall be no reason to get into the edge case scenario you use as a base for your call to action. If wrongly utilised yes, the effects you mention can happen, but these are edge case scenarios. On a bridge crossing a static resting system will not 0ut the climber in any danger if properly loaded. The slack is close to none, in case of a fall the climber will mostly swing. Now, let's suppose that the webbing will break, the climber is supposed at all times on a Via Ferrata to be clipped with the Via Ferrata Set to the safety steel cable. Again, the probability for the static webbing to rupture is low is special/edge conditions are not met. For vertical sections, the resting system shall be statically loaded and in this case there is no way of a fall. On vertical segments, the climber shall always stay way below the cable and again, the resting system shall be statically loaded with no chance of dynamic loading. The rupture of the webbing is a possibility if overloaded and the loading of it is dynamic enough under the stress of the overload to trigger that. If the static resting system is misused and a fall occurs yes, the worst can happen. But again, in this case is not the problem of using a static resting system (recommended for the cases where it is properly used) but of improperly using it. Yes, a static sling is meant for static loads. A resting situation is founded on the premise of a static load. The recomandation to employ the help of the resting system (if conditions of zero slack and no possibility of static load are met) is because if properly utilised it increases comfort and safety. It is important to understand all these details. It is also important to understand that the role of a resting system is to rest and shall not be utilised for personal protection on Via Ferrata. The only device to always be used on a Via Ferrata for personal protection shall be the Via Ferrata Set.
if you fall with the quickdraw, you'll fall all the way down until the next connection of the cable to the rock and you're risking a hard shock if you override the shock absorber! I wouldn't do this ever
You are implying that the advice was to use the quickdraw as a third arm while advancing on the vertical or diagonal of a Via Ferrata, that the idea is to use the quickdraw while progressing on the Via Ferrata or that other are doing it (shorting the shock absorber) regularly as a choice against the common sense. The proposition is not what you insinuate but to consider using a quickdraw as a possible resting system (this implies using it stationary, statically, without movement, when a fall is not possible). I'm confident once understood the basics of Via Ferrata nobody will ever freely chose to use a quickdraw in such way that the Via Ferrata becomes useless. A resting system gets connected to a static point (a peg/rung, above the bolt, a bolt, etc). In this way there is no possibility of falling. When resuming the progression on Via Ferrata the resting system gets disconnected. The two exceptions where a resting system can be used as a third arm (but with careful consideration) are while advancing on the horizontal (a possible fall if the progression is done right way below the safety steel cable is minimal) and while crossing bridges. As you say, under no circumstance the resting system can be differently. Never keep the resting system connected while progressing, never to shortcut the shock absorber, or to disable the Via Ferrata Set.
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Thanks a lot. This year I started via ferrata in Slovakia and with helping of your videos I did multiple and latest one was "E"... and without resting system I would definitely fail.
That’s fantastic to hear-congrats on tackling an "E" level! It’s great that the videos helped you push through, and I totally agree-a good resting system can make all the difference on those tougher routes (even if I know for sure I can go through I will still have the resting system on me. I always am ready to use the resting system when going on new Level E routes). Well done for pushing your limits and making it through! Keep up the great work, and I’m excited to hear about more of your future adventures. Stay safe and keep climbing strong! 💪🧗♂️
Interesting idea about the QuickDraw
You don't need one because you use Petzl Adjust (I'm not ironic). Look, for the sake of it I will once use my Petzl Adjust as my reliable resting system as well. Let's see how that goes.
@@JetSetYourself Please let me know...
Hi, from Spain!
Hello Bill!
Never use a normal static sling as the "rastschlinge" !
It breaks very easily.
Use a dynamic rope resting system like Edelrid "Switch adjust" etc.
Resting implies static load of the sling. There shall be no reason to fall. If properly utilised, a fall shall be static enough to not load the sling to the degree of a rupture of the sling itself or as you say, with dramatic effects on the structure of our body. It is true, dynamic rope can in the right circumstance help. Again, resting systems are for resting and if properly loaded there shall be no reason to get into the edge case scenario you use as a base for your call to action. If wrongly utilised yes, the effects you mention can happen, but these are edge case scenarios. On a bridge crossing a static resting system will not 0ut the climber in any danger if properly loaded. The slack is close to none, in case of a fall the climber will mostly swing. Now, let's suppose that the webbing will break, the climber is supposed at all times on a Via Ferrata to be clipped with the Via Ferrata Set to the safety steel cable. Again, the probability for the static webbing to rupture is low is special/edge conditions are not met.
For vertical sections, the resting system shall be statically loaded and in this case there is no way of a fall. On vertical segments, the climber shall always stay way below the cable and again, the resting system shall be statically loaded with no chance of dynamic loading.
The rupture of the webbing is a possibility if overloaded and the loading of it is dynamic enough under the stress of the overload to trigger that.
If the static resting system is misused and a fall occurs yes, the worst can happen. But again, in this case is not the problem of using a static resting system (recommended for the cases where it is properly used) but of improperly using it.
Yes, a static sling is meant for static loads. A resting situation is founded on the premise of a static load. The recomandation to employ the help of the resting system (if conditions of zero slack and no possibility of static load are met) is because if properly utilised it increases comfort and safety.
It is important to understand all these details. It is also important to understand that the role of a resting system is to rest and shall not be utilised for personal protection on Via Ferrata. The only device to always be used on a Via Ferrata for personal protection shall be the Via Ferrata Set.
if you fall with the quickdraw, you'll fall all the way down until the next connection of the cable to the rock and you're risking a hard shock if you override the shock absorber! I wouldn't do this ever
You are implying that the advice was to use the quickdraw as a third arm while advancing on the vertical or diagonal of a Via Ferrata, that the idea is to use the quickdraw while progressing on the Via Ferrata or that other are doing it (shorting the shock absorber) regularly as a choice against the common sense.
The proposition is not what you insinuate but to consider using a quickdraw as a possible resting system (this implies using it stationary, statically, without movement, when a fall is not possible). I'm confident once understood the basics of Via Ferrata nobody will ever freely chose to use a quickdraw in such way that the Via Ferrata becomes useless.
A resting system gets connected to a static point (a peg/rung, above the bolt, a bolt, etc). In this way there is no possibility of falling. When resuming the progression on Via Ferrata the resting system gets disconnected. The two exceptions where a resting system can be used as a third arm (but with careful consideration) are while advancing on the horizontal (a possible fall if the progression is done right way below the safety steel cable is minimal) and while crossing bridges.
As you say, under no circumstance the resting system can be differently. Never keep the resting system connected while progressing, never to shortcut the shock absorber, or to disable the Via Ferrata Set.