One of the finest, subtlest, deepest and most articulate sufferer-turned-therapist in the Mind-Body arena. This young lady is simply amazing, a beacon of hope for a CPP victim like me. Kudos to Dan for bringing her on. "Believe without having clear-cut expectations" and "believe because you don't have another option" -- wow!
@@rachelgofman3183 Rachel, I am a sixty-one year old primary care physician based in Calcutta, India. Otherwise very fit and healthy for my age, my life is now pretty much ruined by chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain since January 2023. I have a few questions for you regarding the TMS approach to CPPS -- essentially some practical/actionable tools to manage the intense pain -- but this isn't the appropriate platform. Already read Alan Gordon's and Susie Gronski's books and listened to hundreds of videos (Dan Buglio, Howard Schubiner, David Hanscom, Overcome Pelvic Pain and many others) but don't seem to be making much headway. Somewhat confused by the conflicting messages in this domain and not entirely persuaded by stuff like Somatic Tracking and Mindfulness. How can I seek your help to clarify the doubts and make some tangible progress? Being not that tech savvy, I would prefer the old-fashioned mode of written communication. I promise not to badger you. Thanks and warm regards. -- Dr. Amitabha Mukherjee.
Consistency is what rewires the brain! We really don't have to worry about anything else! Consistent Calm messages of safety and eventually the brain changes and lets go. When that happens, who knows. It will happen when it happens. Not an easy path so make sure to give yourself compassion in those harder moments. Thank you both for a great interview!
I thought this was excellent. I’m Hopeful that Rachel will be part of the change we need within the ‘mainstream’ medical community. Thank you Rachel for being a force for change and enlightenment in the medical profession!! ❤
This was so great! As a person that is on the pelvic pain journey this was beyond perfect! Just what I needed! So much so, that after listening I was almost symptom free all day. She really validated how different it is for us dealing with the pelvic stuff. Thank you!!
This has helped me so much today. I’m in a pelvic pain flare up after a few yrs of this. It really is a strange sensation with lots of different symptoms. I totally get how I need to believe in this and calm and soothe myself. Thanks for the video Dan & Rachel
Fantastic interview…. You have no idea how many people you helped today…. Your explanations are spot on and make so much sense…. Keep sharing your knowledge and expertise …. 👍🏻
Wow this interview is so great! Thanks Dan and Rachel! It's so inspiring to hear how your journey has led you into this Mind-Body coaching work Rachel. I'm a PT too, and I resonated with your comments about not being taught anything about chronic pain in my PT training! I hope when I am no longer having chronic symptoms that I can educate other health professionals and guide others towards healing ❤
Thank you for this great interview. Suffering from pelvic, back and hip pain for years. Worst mistake was to read a recent MRI report. Shows a tear in my hip and diverticulitis that has worsened according to the doctors. Pain of course has skyrocketed! I am going back to square one with Dan's message and working on lowering my fear level. It's very hard at the moment but a work in progress 🙂💕🐾
Oh dear! I know what you are going through! We really need to learn that almost the entire medical staff is uneducated and blind for real reasons for pain and diseases! Almost nobody is aware of the mind and its impact! We are living in a material world and so we treat ourselves and believe in machines and its diagnoses as if we were a car. That´s what´s to change! Let the medical voodoo curses go and take the right mindset for becoming a healthy mind and therefor a healthy human being...... And I´m writing this for me too because I am in a similar situation.......
Well done Rachel.. you did trauma work which is so important and processed your emotions.. as depressed emotions do cause pain .. as Sarno said. Peter Levine is a must read for anyone who experienced trauma. The book I read is ‘awaking the tiger’ Best of luck Rachel
Omg ! Another wow . Someone so young but so full of wisdom, the world needs more like you Rachel! Ive been dealing with this stuff for years and theres ‘nothing wrong with me’ 😢. Crying in relief its not in my head 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
This woman and I have so much in common. I have had so much PT from head to toe. These two are so right. I’d feel good for a small amount of time after. Then once I got back to my world boom it’s all back. My first pain started in the hip then now it’s everywhere. Not to mention my lower legs and feet tend to cramp up easily. I hope I can fix this.
Great interview! Thank you for taking the time to share your story and insights Rachel, and thank you Dan for bringing us this incredible interview. One of the things that really spoke to me was when Rachel said repeating "I'm safe" did not work for her. She had to examine her life and make the necessary changes so that she actually felt safe.
Congratulations! In particular , I found your discussion on letting go of the timeline (trusting it’ll happen *some time*), avoiding comparison, and how flares were with you up until the end to be very helpful and hopeful!
Such a great interview thank you both, so interesting about the tight muscles too, mine is tight diaphragm which causes shortness of breath feeling (post covid). I spent a lot of time trying to loosen it or strengthen it (along with many other long covid symptoms) but actually now trying to go with root cause and tms approach. Wondering if emotional work is often required aswell when it comes to muscle tension as its something i've avoided!? 🙏
Great story, here’s a brief story of mine, been pain free for 5 months from pelvic pain and was going to see if I could give my success story on your site but guess what, last week my symptoms came back. So now I’m watching your success stories again.
This happened to me where I think it’s never coming back. Don’t worry sometimes this happens and it was not your fault , we have to have acceptance. This time around when my pain came back I had a deep sorrow and sadness low a feeling of defeat, what helped me is saying affirmations and immediately turned the symptoms down like almost to nothing . For everyone diff things will help diff people , what helped me this time was affirming and journaling that I am God , that I am not a victim, that I can conquer anything, and that I’m destined for great things. Affirm that healing is easy and happens when u are relaxed safe and joyful
Surprise! It's funny how sometimes just a little comment can change someone's life. The issue you had about your job resonated with me. Actually, the words "talked too much" jumped out at me! I seem to have the same, and a bent toward counseling people that I come in contact with. That little sentence was so profound that I felt a shift, and a way that I could put it into practice immediately. I have a feeling that that little sentence is the catalyst for a profound change into my retirement years as I had been fretting that I would be bored if I retired (only a few years away) and still not feeling that I had done what I was born to do. Thank you Rachel and Dan. P. S. By the way, I also am a Pain Free You success story. . Yay!
Fantastic success story! Thank you so much Dan for bringing Rachel on to share her journey and Rachel thank you so much for giving those of us in this journey hitting bumps on the road, more hope as well, very articulate and I do love the science too..🤓it resonated with me a lot..🙏🏼💜💜 I’m glad you are part of our medical system Rachel..♥️
It could be me telling this story. I literally had the same various symptoms and went a year trying to find answers from doctors. This is so wild and comforting at the same time. I’m oddly excited about this success story. ❤ I’m so glad you’re doing better, Rachel! I myself am about 90% recovered from my chronic pain myself! I have two symptoms that are still hanging on lol
@@Marie-tu8dd omg. Do you have Instagram or anything where we can chat? I’m trying to find the Instagram of this girl who told the story. But I don’t know how!? I’m just not sure if this is what is going on with me. I need some insight. Ughhhh- ruining my life!
Hello Dear! Please could you share how did you get rid of IC? 🙏🙏 I have bladder pain since 3 years, currently working on tms since few weeks but I would like to know also your story what did you use exactly and how. I will appreciate a lot your story 🙏 or If it is possible to contact you in some way and chat would be amazing ❤️
I find it hard to imagine that Rachel didn’t connect the onset of her symptoms with her assault much earlier. Indicates just how successfully she was repressing and burying her unpleasant feelings. Sounds like Dr Sarno’s classic case study of Helen. Same unpleasant emotional dynamic in any case 😢.
This sounds like Hypertonic Pelvic Floor Dysfunction.... And because of the urinary components, I would highly suspect the Coccygeus muscles (As outlined in Dr. Dr. Andrew Goldstein Vulvodynia algorithm). HPFD causes unprovoked vestibule pain, as well as low-back/hip pain. Can very much be an issue that stems from trauma.
Yet, she got better outside the medical diagnosis and treatment. Perceived danger was causing her symptoms and safety was the solution. My fast start explains more: DansFastStart.com
@@PainFreeYou Yes, Hypertonic Pelvic Floor Disfunction is the only Vulvodynia/Vestibulodynia subtype that would 100% benefit from this kind of treatment. Our society lacks understanding of vulvar pain currently, but building these algorithms and identifying diagnoses is an important part of the process. Women today are treated like a dart board, but in the hopes that future women will obtain quicker and more accurate diagnoses. We still have a long way to go but we're getting closer to a comprehensive diagnostic algorithm for women's health and pain: www.isswsh.org/images/Persistent_Vulvar_Pain_Diagnostic_and_Treatment_Algorithm.jpg
16-25% of women will suffer with pelvic pain at some point in their lives, and as you specialize in pain, it would be great for you to familiarize yourself with these algorithms to further help your female client base. While your work is great for coping with the pain, a lot of these women will need and should seek proper medication for full resolution.
@@jordincarpenter4538 Most of my clients had the medical system and medications fail to help them. So, they ended up with me. Why would I turn them back to the same medical approach that was not their solution? When my clients learn the real cause of pain and teach their brain that there was no actual damage or danger warranting pain, it can and quite often will go away. The first video in my fast start playlist explains what causes pain. The rest of it is about determining if the perception of danger is their cause and what to do about it. If you take a look at my success stories - you will see many pelvic pain success stories using purely a mindbody approach. PainFreeYouSuccess.com
@@PainFreeYou Well yes, the medical system has failed them because there has been serious gaps in our knowledge about pelvic pain... But the medical community has been making strides ever since. Of course being able to cope with the pain is a huge success, and weathering the storm until it passes is valuable, but a lot of women's pelvic pain cannot be 100% solved with this approach. Some women need medication, or more commonly need to come off medications (birth control is a huge driver of Vestibulodynia). Your approach is worthful, but denying the algorithms and the "traditional" medical system is dangerous.
I'm wondering this too. Having endo removed "properly", I'm still in pain. I have used messages of safety and dialled down pain but when I get anxiety, it goes back up again. Then my muscles clench and spasm.
I’m sorry if I come across in any way not supportive but I fail to understand why someone would learn to become a pt for pelvic pain when they knew pt did not cure them nor in most cases would not help them only to direct them to coaching which is what she does. Honestly as a person that has spent almost my life savings on this issue which almost caused me to starve this pissed me off. Unless I missed something here, did you become a pt before you got out of this or after? Going into a profession knowing outright it didn’t even work for you?? No one is paying a pt to be a life coach, TMS therapist or psychiatrist. I’m lost here. Sorry if this offends but I had to say something on this one.
Surely by staying on both sides of the fence (clinic PT and then the mind body coaching)you were giving mixed messages. My opinion but didn't really seem like a success story as such. I think I could be a coach but no way could I take money delivering "physical treatment" at the same time.
Of course you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. And I have to say that there are whole lot of people in pain out there who are going to places that perform physical treatments who have no idea about a mindbody approach. Almost all people who go to PT get a clinician who tells them all the things wrong with their bodies and puts them in more fear, worry, and focus on symptoms. I do the opposite of that. I WISH I found someone in the western medical world who could have directed me to expand my view of pain. Who could have helped me feel safety in my physical body (that I had been so afraid of). Who could help explain to me that although there were structural adaptations to pain they were not the underlying cause of my pain. It took me a very long time to find the mindbody approach on my own. It would have been so much easier for me to get started with it, and believe in it if a clinician had brought it up to me and explained it in a way that felt scientific and validating. I have been trained through many folks in the mindbody space including Charlie Merrill who is also a clinically practicing physical therapist who works along Dr. Schubiner. Because of how much education I have on chronic pain, I don’t find my work in conflict at all. Whether working with patients in the clinic or clients virtually, my message is the same.
I think both can go hand in hand . My therapist is a pt who is also trained in Mind body work. There is another mind body coach called the Pain Pt Jim Prusack who is also a PT .. with lots of success stories. I think each person’s path to being pain free is different.
@@LilyOscar333exactly… each persons path is diffrrrnt.. and I also think we need to nourish both the mind and body at the sane time.. and sometimes that means supporting the body…and like she said if I had found a Practitioner who could explain both I really don’t think the utter terror would of started and gotten me in that loop
@@rachelgofman3183maybe just set up as a TMS coach only. Not sure how medical insurance works in the USA and maybe they don't recognise or pay for TMS "treatment". It can seem like your using your access to" conventional treatment" patients to feed your own other "treatment "
One of the finest, subtlest, deepest and most articulate sufferer-turned-therapist in the Mind-Body arena. This young lady is simply amazing, a beacon of hope for a CPP victim like me. Kudos to Dan for bringing her on. "Believe without having clear-cut expectations" and "believe because you don't have another option" -- wow!
Thank you so much for the very kind words! I’m glad you found this helpful!
@@rachelgofman3183 Rachel, I am a sixty-one year old primary care physician based in Calcutta, India. Otherwise very fit and healthy for my age, my life is now pretty much ruined by chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain since January 2023. I have a few questions for you regarding the TMS approach to CPPS -- essentially some practical/actionable tools to manage the intense pain -- but this isn't the appropriate platform. Already read Alan Gordon's and Susie Gronski's books and listened to hundreds of videos (Dan Buglio, Howard Schubiner, David Hanscom, Overcome Pelvic Pain and many others) but don't seem to be making much headway. Somewhat confused by the conflicting messages in this domain and not entirely persuaded by stuff like Somatic Tracking and Mindfulness. How can I seek your help to clarify the doubts and make some tangible progress? Being not that tech savvy, I would prefer the old-fashioned mode of written communication. I promise not to badger you. Thanks and warm regards. -- Dr. Amitabha Mukherjee.
@rachelgofman3183 can I have your info for coaching?
Consistency is what rewires the brain! We really don't have to worry about anything else! Consistent Calm messages of safety and eventually the brain changes and lets go. When that happens, who knows. It will happen when it happens. Not an easy path so make sure to give yourself compassion in those harder moments. Thank you both for a great interview!
I thought this was excellent. I’m
Hopeful that Rachel will be part of the change we need within the ‘mainstream’ medical community. Thank you Rachel for being a force for change and enlightenment in the medical profession!! ❤
This was so great! As a person that is on the pelvic pain journey this was beyond perfect! Just what I needed! So much so, that after listening I was almost symptom free all day. She really validated how different it is for us dealing with the pelvic stuff. Thank you!!
This has helped me so much today. I’m in a pelvic pain flare up after a few yrs of this. It really is a strange sensation with lots of different symptoms. I totally get how I need to believe in this and calm and soothe myself. Thanks for the video Dan & Rachel
Fantastic interview…. You have no idea how many people you helped today…. Your explanations are spot on and make so much sense…. Keep sharing your knowledge and expertise …. 👍🏻
Phenomenal ray of hope and clarity here. Thanks for doing these, Dan.
My pleasure.
Very smart lady. She understands how this all works. Great interview!
Wow this interview is so great! Thanks Dan and Rachel! It's so inspiring to hear how your journey has led you into this Mind-Body coaching work Rachel. I'm a PT too, and I resonated with your comments about not being taught anything about chronic pain in my PT training! I hope when I am no longer having chronic symptoms that I can educate other health professionals and guide others towards healing ❤
Thank you for this great interview. Suffering from pelvic, back and hip pain for years. Worst mistake was to read a recent MRI report. Shows a tear in my hip and diverticulitis that has worsened according to the doctors. Pain of course has skyrocketed! I am going back to square one with Dan's message and working on lowering my fear level. It's very hard at the moment but a work in progress 🙂💕🐾
Oh dear! I know what you are going through! We really need to learn that almost the entire medical staff is uneducated and blind for real reasons for pain and diseases! Almost nobody is aware of the mind and its impact! We are living in a material world and so we treat ourselves and believe in machines and its diagnoses as if we were a car. That´s what´s to change! Let the medical voodoo curses go and take the right mindset for becoming a healthy mind and therefor a healthy human being...... And I´m writing this for me too because I am in a similar situation.......
Brilliant interview. Thanks to both of you ❤
Well done Rachel.. you did trauma work which is so important and processed your emotions.. as depressed emotions do cause pain .. as Sarno said. Peter Levine is a must read for anyone who experienced trauma. The book I read is ‘awaking the tiger’ Best of luck Rachel
Thanks Rachel great story, very inspiring x
Omg ! Another wow . Someone so young but so full of wisdom, the world needs more like you Rachel! Ive been dealing with this stuff for years and theres ‘nothing wrong with me’ 😢. Crying in relief its not in my head 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
This woman and I have so much in common. I have had so much PT from head to toe. These two are so right. I’d feel good for a small amount of time after. Then once I got back to my world boom it’s all back. My first pain started in the hip then now it’s everywhere. Not to mention my lower legs and feet tend to cramp up easily. I hope I can fix this.
Oh my God this is the story of my pain completely.
Are you healed with TMS work?
Good interview, thanks to both!💞
Thanks Dan for interview with Rachel. The first time I heard of you was an interview you did with Dani Fagan….😊
thanks dan and rachel, ! really good talk, helpfull and clear, cheer from argentina!
Kudos Rachel! We need more PT's who are educated about TMS. I recently began PT with someone trained in Neuroplastic pain and it’s helpful ❤Peggy
Great interview! Thank you for taking the time to share your story and insights Rachel, and thank you Dan for bringing us this incredible interview. One of the things that really spoke to me was when Rachel said repeating "I'm safe" did not work for her. She had to examine her life and make the necessary changes so that she actually felt safe.
Ty Rachel for your story you are doing great work now whishing you succes and much love ❤❤❤
Hi Lenneke hope you doing well. ❤
@@LilyOscar333 in a flare 😪
@@Lenneke8422 sending healing ❤️🩹 hugs 🤗
Hi Lenneke! I hope you are well! ❤
@@NicoleFitnessTH-cam flare big one 🥲
Fantastic interview!!!❤
Congratulations! In particular , I found your discussion on letting go of the timeline (trusting it’ll happen *some time*), avoiding comparison, and how flares were with you up until the end to be very helpful and hopeful!
Such a great interview thank you both, so interesting about the tight muscles too, mine is tight diaphragm which causes shortness of breath feeling (post covid). I spent a lot of time trying to loosen it or strengthen it (along with many other long covid symptoms) but actually now trying to go with root cause and tms approach. Wondering if emotional work is often required aswell when it comes to muscle tension as its something i've avoided!? 🙏
Great story, here’s a brief story of mine, been pain free for 5 months from pelvic pain and was going to see if I could give my success story on your site but guess what, last week my symptoms came back. So now I’m watching your success stories again.
How are you now?
Hi! How did you do that exactly to be pain free from pelvic pain exactly? 🙏 would you share your story?
This happened to me where I think it’s never coming back. Don’t worry sometimes this happens and it was not your fault , we have to have acceptance. This time around when my pain came back I had a deep sorrow and sadness low a feeling of defeat, what helped me is saying affirmations and immediately turned the symptoms down like almost to nothing . For everyone diff things will help diff people , what helped me this time was affirming and journaling that I am God , that I am not a victim, that I can conquer anything, and that I’m destined for great things. Affirm that healing is easy and happens when u are relaxed safe and joyful
Surprise!
It's funny how sometimes just a little comment can change someone's life.
The issue you had about your job resonated with me.
Actually, the words "talked too much" jumped out at me!
I seem to have the same, and a bent toward counseling people that I come in contact with.
That little sentence was so profound that I felt a shift, and a way that I could put it into practice immediately.
I have a feeling that that little sentence is the catalyst for a profound change into my retirement years as I had been fretting that I would be bored if I retired (only a few years away) and still not feeling that I had done what I was born to do.
Thank you Rachel and Dan.
P. S. By the way, I also am a Pain Free You success story. . Yay!
Fantastic success story! Thank you so much Dan for bringing Rachel on to share her journey and Rachel thank you so much for giving those of us in this journey hitting bumps on the road, more hope as well, very articulate and I do love the science too..🤓it resonated with me a lot..🙏🏼💜💜
I’m glad you are part of our medical system Rachel..♥️
It could be me telling this story. I literally had the same various symptoms and went a year trying to find answers from doctors. This is so wild and comforting at the same time. I’m oddly excited about this success story. ❤ I’m so glad you’re doing better, Rachel! I myself am about 90% recovered from my chronic pain myself! I have two symptoms that are still hanging on lol
Hi, you got better treating it at TMS?
@@Cmazz22104 yes! I was diagnosed with vulvodynia, pudendal neuralgia and I had IC symptoms. All TMS.
@@Marie-tu8dd omg. Do you have Instagram or anything where we can chat? I’m trying to find the Instagram of this girl who told the story. But I don’t know how!? I’m just not sure if this is what is going on with me. I need some insight. Ughhhh- ruining my life!
@@Marie-tu8dd would you be open to chat privetly?
Hello Dear! Please could you share how did you get rid of IC? 🙏🙏
I have bladder pain since 3 years, currently working on tms since few weeks but I would like to know also your story what did you use exactly and how. I will appreciate a lot your story 🙏 or If it is possible to contact you in some way and chat would be amazing ❤️
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ This one is golden! Rachel is awesome, and you are the best in this work Dan. Thank you sincerely!
I’m right there. But learning. Slowly.
Brilliant interview !!! Thank you both !!!!
Thanks for sharing. Truly inspiring
I find it hard to imagine that Rachel didn’t connect the onset of her symptoms with her assault much earlier. Indicates just how successfully she was repressing and burying her unpleasant feelings. Sounds like Dr Sarno’s classic case study of Helen. Same unpleasant emotional dynamic in any case 😢.
Rachel mentioned she's a coach. May I have her info?
Instagram: instagram.com/thepelvicpaincoach/
Thanks for sharing!
I'm from NYC area and so is she. Of course she swears😂
Great coaching vids Dan. Thank you🙏
Haha - yes.
This sounds like Hypertonic Pelvic Floor Dysfunction.... And because of the urinary components, I would highly suspect the Coccygeus muscles (As outlined in Dr. Dr. Andrew Goldstein Vulvodynia algorithm). HPFD causes unprovoked vestibule pain, as well as low-back/hip pain. Can very much be an issue that stems from trauma.
Yet, she got better outside the medical diagnosis and treatment. Perceived danger was causing her symptoms and safety was the solution. My fast start explains more: DansFastStart.com
@@PainFreeYou Yes, Hypertonic Pelvic Floor Disfunction is the only Vulvodynia/Vestibulodynia subtype that would 100% benefit from this kind of treatment. Our society lacks understanding of vulvar pain currently, but building these algorithms and identifying diagnoses is an important part of the process. Women today are treated like a dart board, but in the hopes that future women will obtain quicker and more accurate diagnoses.
We still have a long way to go but we're getting closer to a comprehensive diagnostic algorithm for women's health and pain:
www.isswsh.org/images/Persistent_Vulvar_Pain_Diagnostic_and_Treatment_Algorithm.jpg
16-25% of women will suffer with pelvic pain at some point in their lives, and as you specialize in pain, it would be great for you to familiarize yourself with these algorithms to further help your female client base. While your work is great for coping with the pain, a lot of these women will need and should seek proper medication for full resolution.
@@jordincarpenter4538 Most of my clients had the medical system and medications fail to help them. So, they ended up with me. Why would I turn them back to the same medical approach that was not their solution? When my clients learn the real cause of pain and teach their brain that there was no actual damage or danger warranting pain, it can and quite often will go away. The first video in my fast start playlist explains what causes pain. The rest of it is about determining if the perception of danger is their cause and what to do about it.
If you take a look at my success stories - you will see many pelvic pain success stories using purely a mindbody approach. PainFreeYouSuccess.com
@@PainFreeYou Well yes, the medical system has failed them because there has been serious gaps in our knowledge about pelvic pain... But the medical community has been making strides ever since. Of course being able to cope with the pain is a huge success, and weathering the storm until it passes is valuable, but a lot of women's pelvic pain cannot be 100% solved with this approach. Some women need medication, or more commonly need to come off medications (birth control is a huge driver of Vestibulodynia). Your approach is worthful, but denying the algorithms and the "traditional" medical system is dangerous.
Great vid reminder medical r paid learnt in areas not of the mind but of the body only
So are you saying that pain say that comes from cancer can be handled and overcome as well?
Im wondering if anyone has found any videos about pelvic pain, but with endometriosis etc?
I'm wondering this too. Having endo removed "properly", I'm still in pain. I have used messages of safety and dialled down pain but when I get anxiety, it goes back up again. Then my muscles clench and spasm.
If we have had ocd prior it makes us ficus onnit
I follow you on Instagram Rachel.
What is her Instagram page?
@@Cmazz22104 I’m sorry but I have no idea. I think she listed it in the comments on Facebook.
@@g.siporin4000 found her ty
The reason is a lot of people will never accept mind body. They want a pill, or a surgery so they can passively be fixed.
I’m sorry if I come across in any way not supportive but I fail to understand why someone would learn to become a pt for pelvic pain when they knew pt did not cure them nor in most cases would not help them only to direct them to coaching which is what she does. Honestly as a person that has spent almost my life savings on this issue which almost caused me to starve this pissed me off. Unless I missed something here, did you become a pt before you got out of this or after? Going into a profession knowing outright it didn’t even work for you?? No one is paying a pt to be a life coach, TMS therapist or psychiatrist. I’m lost here. Sorry if this offends but I had to say something on this one.
I am thinking you could put the pharmaceuticals out of business......wait, wait the Medical profession too!
Surely by staying on both sides of the fence (clinic PT and then the mind body coaching)you were giving mixed messages. My opinion but didn't really seem like a success story as such.
I think I could be a coach but no way could I take money delivering "physical treatment" at the same time.
Agree, on the mixed messages.
Of course you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. And I have to say that there are whole lot of people in pain out there who are going to places that perform physical treatments who have no idea about a mindbody approach. Almost all people who go to PT get a clinician who tells them all the things wrong with their bodies and puts them in more fear, worry, and focus on symptoms. I do the opposite of that.
I WISH I found someone in the western medical world who could have directed me to expand my view of pain. Who could have helped me feel safety in my physical body (that I had been so afraid of). Who could help explain to me that although there were structural adaptations to pain they were not the underlying cause of my pain.
It took me a very long time to find the mindbody approach on my own. It would have been so much easier for me to get started with it, and believe in it if a clinician had brought it up to me and explained it in a way that felt scientific and validating. I have been trained through many folks in the mindbody space including Charlie Merrill who is also a clinically practicing physical therapist who works along Dr. Schubiner.
Because of how much education I have on chronic pain, I don’t find my work in conflict at all. Whether working with patients in the clinic or clients virtually, my message is the same.
I think both can go hand in hand . My therapist is a pt who is also trained in Mind body work. There is another mind body coach called the Pain Pt Jim Prusack who is also a PT .. with lots of success stories. I think each person’s path to being pain free is different.
@@LilyOscar333exactly… each persons path is diffrrrnt.. and I also think we need to nourish both the mind and body at the sane time.. and sometimes that means supporting the body…and like she said if I had found a Practitioner who could explain both I really don’t think the utter terror would of started and gotten me in that loop
@@rachelgofman3183maybe just set up as a TMS coach only. Not sure how medical insurance works in the USA and maybe they don't recognise or pay for TMS "treatment". It can seem like your using your access to" conventional treatment" patients to feed your own other "treatment "
@ingegovaert3448 I can't comment on your posting, keeps showing error.