I just bought the this car. My first brand new car ever. $32k It’s really beautiful and I really like the way it drives. It has a ton of get up and go. I’ve been doing 85 on the hwy and not really noticing it at all. The red interior is snazzy. You made me feel reaffirmed about my purchase, thank you. I had been a little nervous but I really do like it a lot.
All the haters can go drive their corollas and sonatas. I LOVE my hornet. It’s so much fun to drive!!!! And it’s super nice and comfortable. Keep hating on it, it just makes it cheaper for us that love it lol.
Got a RT Plus for 29k. I drive about 300 miles a week and spend about $40/month on 93 fuel. 80% on electric which is about $15/month to charge. With the discounts and incentives, good luck finding anything comparable. After 6 months I average 80mpg. I'm glad everyone hates it.
@@emilygracehoward334 I recently got a gold Hornet R/T for more than half off MSRP before tax, title, and fees. $43,590 MSRP - $7,500 Dodge rebate -$5,600 Colorado EV Point of Sale credit - $8,600 dealer discount = $21,890. For that price, I'll take a chance on it (it is a second car for our family).
@@darell8310 If you intend to keep it past the factory warranty period, then get a Mopar extended warranty. This is a car where those extended warranties probably make sense (only if you you plan to keep it that long).
I love mine!!! I guess I’m gonna have to start making some videos of it from a consumer point of view because so far I do not understand all the trash talking… really is fun to drive.
Dodge has been way more than just a performance brand. Dodge came out with the Grand Caravan, many station wagons in the past. We have had a Neon, Caliber, and currently a slow 4cyl Journey and its great and simple. Im a simple person and I have always liked the Dodge Brand and these more affordable everyday cars let me also spend more on my Ram Trucks which should have never been broken away from the Dodge brand. I remember as a kid of the 80s and 90s riding in back of one on road trips and still drive one today.
I bought an Alfa Romeo Tonale Sprint PHEV EAWD instead. It has more character, feels more up scale, is better looking, and gives a different impression then the Hornet.
The problem with the Hornet is its not cheap, and its being marketed to the wrong demographics. It should be positioned for families who want a sporty crossover along with a high performance variant. Stellantis management are way out of touch trying to shoehorn this car towards current Charger and Challenger owners, those people do not want this crossover and they are making it known. I mean why import this thing from Italy in the first place?
It is really much too small for a family. That said, the deals are going strong. Dealerships are selling them now with massive discounts at 24K and 25K
❤ MY 2024 HORNET GT TRACK PACK AWD TURBO. IT'S BEEN SO FUN TO DRIVE, THE POWER IS VERY VERY GOOD , PEOPLE ❤ THE LOOK OF IT- BUT ASK WHAT IS IT ? THE INSIDE IS VERY SPORTY ECT.... CAN'T JUDGE IT TILL YOU OWN ONE !!!! 😁🥰
For the majority of people AWD is not needed/useless. Make the AWD an option and keep it FWD to keep the cost down. They didn't kill the Charger, it is coming back as an EV/Straight 6 models, two door and four door models, but they are behind in production. Know one wants one with the Alfa reputation for reliability (or lack there of) and financing one is a headache with very few lenders not wanting to put money up for the reliability issues and how quick they depreciate.
Good point. I live in Minneapolis and drive a rwd charger year round with no issues. There's maybe a day or I hesitate to take it out on ice covered roads, but the salt and plows come out right away.
I am considering a Dodge Hornet! The prices are coming down as the fate of these Dodge Hornets are taking a similar path that the 2013 to 2016 Dodge Darts have taken! I love my 2014 Dodge Dart SXT! Best Dodge that I have owned since 1969!
I drove one at the dealership. I cant imagine paying like 40k for it. The road noise were horrible, and the engine is very loud. I have a 2019 v6 3.2L Cherokee, figure i will give Stellantis product a look. The Hornet cost like $10k more and feels inferior in every way. Sure, it feels more "sporty", but most of the time are are just driving straight on the highway or going to grocery store.
lol. Look, I am not buying either. I am just pointing out that vehicles get a bad rap for one thing or another, while others get a great reputation but then have to do a FULL ENGINE REPLACEMENT in 100,000+ vehicles... (I would say that is a little more than a hiccup). They are also delaying the launch of the new 4Runner due to the issues they are having with the shared components on the Tacoma. Its not all sunshine and rainbows out there. I daily a vehicle that got a bad rap, and I have owned it for 11 years without any major issues...
Difference is that Dodge doesn't have a good track record with bad design PR where at least Toyota is admitting faults. Their newer (late 2010s) RAM heavy duty transmission valve bodies had major issues with heat-related warping pretty much at the tail end of warranty miles or just over them, that dealers' service depts gaslit the customers into believing it was their fault for using the truck for what it was designed for, then try to sell them a completely new valve body or transmission. My dad had to bring his to an independent shop that specially machined an upgraded version of the part for the valve body so it doesn't have the issue anymore. Saved him thousands on a new transmission and the valve body was fine with the upgraded part installed. Dodge is a nightmare in general. All their cars have had major electrical or mechanical issues that were never fixed in later iterations. I have no reason to assume they're any better now than they were then, let alone willing to sink $40K (without dealer markup) on a compact crossover.
@@mixedbyfiatcat Have you worked on an Alfa or are you just a Carlos Tavares toady? They had electrical connector issues before they were driven back to Europe. The engines and driving dynamics were great, but Americans love reliability.
There is a follow-up to that video you referenced. You should check it out... they got a mazda cx5 to do the exact same thing. And the faul was completely explained.
I love all of these high-performance SUVs and crossovers, I wish they were making more of them but alas, as soon as a new option hits the market, another one gets its walking papers. For example, the gas version of the Kona N. Luckily, there's the Hornet, the Ford Edge ST, Explorer ST and the Dodge Durango SRT which is beast btw, although sadly I'm afraid it may have got the chopping block with the Challenger and Charger, I'm not sure though tbh. I want the perks that come from driving an SUV and then the fact that you get to or can drive it like a muscle/sports car too? Where do I sign? Lol
You can spend 45-50k on this with a turbo 4 or you could literally spend a few extra grand and buy a new AMG GLB, Or a higher end sports car with an actual engine in it. Plenty of cars in that price range that are MUCH better, especially in the used market. This car realistically should be no higher than 40k.
These don't cost 45-50k it's a compact crossover, turbo or not, none of them cost that unless you go into the luxury market and even then, I'm not sure they get that high priced. So...yeah
@@622Superman the R/T plus literally starts at just shy of 47k (fully loaded is 54k), so yes they do get that high in price. Now add options, warranties, and interest. Easily over 50k.
Perhaps this: 2023 Dodge Hornet GT | A Compact Crossover in a League of its Own th-cam.com/video/thznoI0cUrE/w-d-xo.html We had essentially the same car two years in a row to review, so I did things a little different the second time.
This isn’t intended to be negative, but I do wish you would just speak normally. The over affected Doug D cadence you are using seems very forced and it’s really distracting.
Dodge was building the most relevant, exciting, and fun rear wheel drive muscle cars in this era, then they saw a Toyota RAV4, and they thought "How can we make a completely worse and unreliable version of this to fool uninformed buyers? Dodge's crossover death is complete. And they can go away now.
*maybe* on the used market after the resell value tanks. New, may as well buy the Tonale if you're even considering this poor attempt to ressurrect the caliber SRT.
lol. I was waiting on someone to mention that. lol. It was a Toyota RAV4. It actually worked out for the better because I turned around and re-shot the video on my way back and THAT was the take I used.
@@GTGarageTalk And now are sales at Jeep going with the changes Stellantis has imposed? Perhaps an SUV in the sweet spot of the market was a good thing.
Stellantis has zero idea about how to market to U.S. car buyers. The Hornet is a great example of that. And the pricing needs to be lower. And why get rid of the Charger and Challenger. Just plain foolishness.
It's a Fiat your going to see dodge pushing these cars because they got 445 day supply on the dealership lots no body wants a Fiat that they slap a dodge name on it
Dude, this is the fastest crossover in the segment. You can thank Biden for the death of the Charger, Challenger, Mustang, Camaro, etc. Are you really comparing the driving experience of a supercharged v8 muscle car to a turbo 4 crossover? That's like comparing apples to oranges. Why are you even talking about the Charger and Challenger? BOTH Cars, this is a crossover. Shouldn't even be in the same discussion. What you should compare it to is something like the unfortunately shortlived gas model of the Kona N. That, would be something to compare it to, sadly, the gas model got the chopping block after only 2 years, yes the Kona N is still made and in production but, it is now only available as a full EV sadly.
@@frankkoolosko4255 I can and it does. I test drove 'em both and bought the Hornet because it drove better than the Mazda, which felt much less lively than the Hornet. It really is a fun car to drive!
I wouldn’t buy any Dodge vehicle…special this turd. There is a reason why the lots are full of them, and the ridiculous high price is only part of the reason.
I just bought the this car. My first brand new car ever. $32k
It’s really beautiful and I really like the way it drives. It has a ton of get up and go. I’ve been doing 85 on the hwy and not really noticing it at all. The red interior is snazzy. You made me feel reaffirmed about my purchase, thank you. I had been a little nervous but I really do like it a lot.
Enjoy it!!!!!!
Congrats, Kristy.
All the haters can go drive their corollas and sonatas. I LOVE my hornet. It’s so much fun to drive!!!! And it’s super nice and comfortable. Keep hating on it, it just makes it cheaper for us that love it lol.
*mic drop* 😎
Not even comparing to the same segment of car... Come on man.
Got a RT Plus for 29k. I drive about 300 miles a week and spend about $40/month on 93 fuel. 80% on electric which is about $15/month to charge. With the discounts and incentives, good luck finding anything comparable. After 6 months I average 80mpg. I'm glad everyone hates it.
Talk when it’s out of warranty
How the hell did you manage to get an RT for $29K? Going to check some out tomorrow. Give me the details. Lol
@@emilygracehoward334Prices are $10,000 less on Dodge Hornets currently! I bet they go down lower! You can get a great deal now!
@@emilygracehoward334 I recently got a gold Hornet R/T for more than half off MSRP before tax, title, and fees. $43,590 MSRP - $7,500 Dodge rebate -$5,600 Colorado EV Point of Sale credit - $8,600 dealer discount = $21,890. For that price, I'll take a chance on it (it is a second car for our family).
@@darell8310 If you intend to keep it past the factory warranty period, then get a Mopar extended warranty. This is a car where those extended warranties probably make sense (only if you you plan to keep it that long).
I love mine!!! I guess I’m gonna have to start making some videos of it from a consumer point of view because so far I do not understand all the trash talking… really is fun to drive.
Love to hear it
Well, if you get to see what sad cars they drive. It all make sense. 😂
My GT is now over 7K KM and it has been the most fun car I've ever owned. Sure, it has some quirks but I call it character.
Love to hear it!
Dodge has been way more than just a performance brand. Dodge came out with the Grand Caravan, many station wagons in the past. We have had a Neon, Caliber, and currently a slow 4cyl Journey and its great and simple. Im a simple person and I have always liked the Dodge Brand and these more affordable everyday cars let me also spend more on my Ram Trucks which should have never been broken away from the Dodge brand. I remember as a kid of the 80s and 90s riding in back of one on road trips and still drive one today.
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I bought an Alfa Romeo Tonale Sprint PHEV EAWD instead. It has more character, feels more up scale, is better looking, and gives a different impression then the Hornet.
Keeping it in the family. 😉
I just stole one for 27k OTD, I love it so far. Very thankful for the bad rep
Way to go! 😎
@@mixedbyfiatcatHow is your Dodge Hornet doing?
The problem with the Hornet is its not cheap, and its being marketed to the wrong demographics. It should be positioned for families who want a sporty crossover along with a high performance variant. Stellantis management are way out of touch trying to shoehorn this car towards current Charger and Challenger owners, those people do not want this crossover and they are making it known. I mean why import this thing from Italy in the first place?
The “Dodge Bros” definitely aren’t trading in their Hellcat Durangos for this. (Coincidentally that is what we are testing this week)
I figured they were targeting younger demographics with an entry-level Dodge product.
@@brokeboy87 Except, it's not a good price for entry-level vehicle. The product is overprice. That's why it failed.
It is really much too small for a family. That said, the deals are going strong. Dealerships are selling them now with massive discounts at 24K and 25K
@@jonathanwerrell3897Currently Dodge Hornets are $10 to $12,000 less at many dealerships! Check a Hornet out today!
❤ MY 2024 HORNET GT TRACK PACK AWD TURBO. IT'S BEEN SO FUN TO DRIVE, THE POWER IS VERY VERY GOOD , PEOPLE ❤ THE LOOK OF IT- BUT ASK WHAT IS IT ? THE INSIDE IS VERY SPORTY ECT.... CAN'T JUDGE IT TILL YOU OWN ONE !!!! 😁🥰
way to go! 😎
Probably the best interior Dodge ever had because it's an Alfa Romeo, lol
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Every vehicle has its problems !! Im thinking about getting one for my grandbaby. She hates when I call her that lol
For the majority of people AWD is not needed/useless. Make the AWD an option and keep it FWD to keep the cost down. They didn't kill the Charger, it is coming back as an EV/Straight 6 models, two door and four door models, but they are behind in production. Know one wants one with the Alfa reputation for reliability (or lack there of) and financing one is a headache with very few lenders not wanting to put money up for the reliability issues and how quick they depreciate.
Good point. I live in Minneapolis and drive a rwd charger year round with no issues. There's maybe a day or I hesitate to take it out on ice covered roads, but the salt and plows come out right away.
I wonder why there’s an over one year supply of Hornets sitting in dealer inventory?
The price, the car. Two basic issues going on.
I love my Hornet!!!
Awesome!
I am considering a Dodge Hornet! The prices are coming down as the fate of these Dodge Hornets are taking a similar path that the 2013 to 2016 Dodge Darts have taken! I love my 2014 Dodge Dart SXT! Best Dodge that I have owned since 1969!
I drove one at the dealership. I cant imagine paying like 40k for it.
The road noise were horrible, and the engine is very loud.
I have a 2019 v6 3.2L Cherokee, figure i will give Stellantis product a look. The Hornet cost like $10k more and feels inferior in every way.
Sure, it feels more "sporty", but most of the time are are just driving straight on the highway or going to grocery store.
This car is a mechanical nightmare
So are the latest Toyotas. Lol
@@GTGarageTalk pretty weak argument. what's a hiccup over decades of consistency?
lol. Look, I am not buying either. I am just pointing out that vehicles get a bad rap for one thing or another, while others get a great reputation but then have to do a FULL ENGINE REPLACEMENT in 100,000+ vehicles... (I would say that is a little more than a hiccup). They are also delaying the launch of the new 4Runner due to the issues they are having with the shared components on the Tacoma. Its not all sunshine and rainbows out there.
I daily a vehicle that got a bad rap, and I have owned it for 11 years without any major issues...
Difference is that Dodge doesn't have a good track record with bad design PR where at least Toyota is admitting faults. Their newer (late 2010s) RAM heavy duty transmission valve bodies had major issues with heat-related warping pretty much at the tail end of warranty miles or just over them, that dealers' service depts gaslit the customers into believing it was their fault for using the truck for what it was designed for, then try to sell them a completely new valve body or transmission. My dad had to bring his to an independent shop that specially machined an upgraded version of the part for the valve body so it doesn't have the issue anymore. Saved him thousands on a new transmission and the valve body was fine with the upgraded part installed.
Dodge is a nightmare in general. All their cars have had major electrical or mechanical issues that were never fixed in later iterations. I have no reason to assume they're any better now than they were then, let alone willing to sink $40K (without dealer markup) on a compact crossover.
The biggest problem I see with Dodge is that they constantly kill/change the car branding, which lowers future resale value.
Hornet is too expensive for what it is. Should be in the price range of a chevy trax.
It’s more complicated than the Trax. AWD as standard vs not available on Trax. Also, it has a more luxurious interior and more power.
@@GTGarageTalk Complicated from Alfa is not a good combination long term.
@@rogerrussell9544have you driven or own an alfa or just talking trash cause you read consumer report?
@@mixedbyfiatcat Have you worked on an Alfa or are you just a Carlos Tavares toady? They had electrical connector issues before they were driven back to Europe. The engines and driving dynamics were great, but Americans love reliability.
There is a follow-up to that video you referenced. You should check it out... they got a mazda cx5 to do the exact same thing.
And the faul was completely explained.
I love all of these high-performance SUVs and crossovers, I wish they were making more of them but alas, as soon as a new option hits the market, another one gets its walking papers. For example, the gas version of the Kona N. Luckily, there's the Hornet, the Ford Edge ST, Explorer ST and the Dodge Durango SRT which is beast btw, although sadly I'm afraid it may have got the chopping block with the Challenger and Charger, I'm not sure though tbh. I want the perks that come from driving an SUV and then the fact that you get to or can drive it like a muscle/sports car too? Where do I sign? Lol
I like my Hornet GT
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Thanks for validating my purchase decision
It’s a fun car.
You made a bad decision enjoy your plastic tie rods and Italian build quality
@@carlmcdonald5864again with the negativity. What boring car do you drive?
Not really hearing any noise...
It’s the only dodge I actually find nice, design wise, and seems fun to drive, but the prices that these dodge dealers are demanding is Ludicrous.
Maybe because it’s the Dodge version of the Alfa Romeo Tonale.
What's really funny is that eventually this will be a decent deal. Just not now.
Or if you can find a dealer wanting to move em
This will be a 10k used car on buy-here-pay-here lots in three years. Garbage motor and garbage engineering.
When life gives you lemons, open a dodge dealership and sell them
The R/T has the same specs, it's just a hybrid.
You can spend 45-50k on this with a turbo 4 or you could literally spend a few extra grand and buy a new AMG GLB, Or a higher end sports car with an actual engine in it. Plenty of cars in that price range that are MUCH better, especially in the used market. This car realistically should be no higher than 40k.
We have had the GLB… it was mid.
@@FinancialStorm7 base GR. 32000
Used dodge hornet GT is $27k
These don't cost 45-50k it's a compact crossover, turbo or not, none of them cost that unless you go into the luxury market and even then, I'm not sure they get that high priced. So...yeah
@@622Superman the R/T plus literally starts at just shy of 47k (fully loaded is 54k), so yes they do get that high in price. Now add options, warranties, and interest. Easily over 50k.
Could we talk more about this car, less about ones not in the video. Was supposed to be a Hornet revue.
Perhaps this:
2023 Dodge Hornet GT | A Compact Crossover in a League of its Own
th-cam.com/video/thznoI0cUrE/w-d-xo.html
We had essentially the same car two years in a row to review, so I did things a little different the second time.
This isn’t intended to be negative, but I do wish you would just speak normally. The over affected Doug D cadence you are using seems very forced and it’s really distracting.
I believe it was the Neon that saved Dodge. 4cyl not a muscle car. Just sayin'
Just brought one home for $25k.
NICE
@@GTGarageTalk I just seen another one for $23.5. Prices are dropping.
Bro said as long as your not stuck behind slower traffic...bro u are the slower traffic in that car
Dodge was building the most relevant, exciting, and fun rear wheel drive muscle cars in this era, then they saw a Toyota RAV4, and they thought "How can we make a completely worse and unreliable version of this to fool uninformed buyers? Dodge's crossover death is complete. And they can go away now.
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Have you driven the rav4, it’s not much to rave about. Sure it will last. Owner will die unhappy though. Hahah😂
*maybe* on the used market after the resell value tanks. New, may as well buy the Tonale if you're even considering this poor attempt to ressurrect the caliber SRT.
I need to know...who pulled out in front of you and ruined your entire video? 😊 Also...great color.
lol. I was waiting on someone to mention that. lol. It was a Toyota RAV4. It actually worked out for the better because I turned around and re-shot the video on my way back and THAT was the take I used.
If the segment is so hot, why did they drop the Jeep Cherokee?
Because they have the Jeep Compass.
@@GTGarageTalk And now are sales at Jeep going with the changes Stellantis has imposed? Perhaps an SUV in the sweet spot of the market was a good thing.
You forgot to mention that like 1/3 of these cars are lemons.
vs. 100% of new gas-only Tundras. It happens with new vehicles.
Thanks for the heads up! Never would’ve considered it.
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Im trying to get 1 but the bank won't approve me. Lol
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It’s extremely unreliable, people aren’t wrong for skipping this rebadged shitbox.
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Language… lol.
Not dodge like... Eh.. what did they expect 😂😂
Bruh….hope you got paid. 😂
Yup. By TH-cam. Thanks for watching.
They want way too muchf or it especially the one you are testing
Stellantis has zero idea about how to market to U.S. car buyers. The Hornet is a great example of that. And the pricing needs to be lower. And why get rid of the Charger and Challenger. Just plain foolishness.
It's a Fiat your going to see dodge pushing these cars because they got 445 day supply on the dealership lots no body wants a Fiat that they slap a dodge name on it
Maybe for $18K, certainly not for what their asking.
I wish you could get ANY new car for $18k
You’re not realistic with that price. Avg new car this year, it’s 48-50k.
Every tundra gas engine....pretty big statement........you watch to much h TH-cam.........yes a few but not everyone.....do your research better...ty
Every non hybrid
This is not Dodge but alfa romeo.
And…
@@GTGarageTalk meaning that its quality more related to alfa romeo quality, not dodge
One word.... Fiat
Alfa Romeo, actually.
Dude, this is the fastest crossover in the segment. You can thank Biden for the death of the Charger, Challenger, Mustang, Camaro, etc. Are you really comparing the driving experience of a supercharged v8 muscle car to a turbo 4 crossover? That's like comparing apples to oranges. Why are you even talking about the Charger and Challenger? BOTH Cars, this is a crossover. Shouldn't even be in the same discussion. What you should compare it to is something like the unfortunately shortlived gas model of the Kona N. That, would be something to compare it to, sadly, the gas model got the chopping block after only 2 years, yes the Kona N is still made and in production but, it is now only available as a full EV sadly.
Biden, really? 😂👌
Umm, Biden drives a 1967 Corvette convertible that he has owned since it was new.
It's just another piece of crap from Dodge, Fiat, Stellantis, and whatever else they call themselves these days.
Nobody is wrong about this vehicle the Dodge Hornet has plastic tie rods it is complete garbage
AMEN!
Sway links. Not tie rods
I don't understand why people constantly waste their time looking at videos and commenting on a car they don't want. It's just a waste of time.
@@mike_johnson87 because people need to know that this car is a piece of garbage and to stay away it needs to rot in a landfill
Drove the RT, it was really nice.
Overpriced. FUGLY. SLOW. Its like the buick encore or the ford eco sport. Going to be bought by widowed 60 year old ladies.
Fugly? It’s a little plain, don’t know I’d call it fugly.
Dont talk about other cars when you are doing a review of the Hornet. Waste of time. Starve your distractions and feed your focus.
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Don’t let this guy talk you into buying this piece of crap. Go out and buy a Mazda or a Toyota
I just said you should test drive one... 😉
I looked it up and looked at the prices they wanted for one of these , you can’t honestly tell me this compares to a CX five.
@@frankkoolosko4255 I can and it does. I test drove 'em both and bought the Hornet because it drove better than the Mazda, which felt much less lively than the Hornet. It really is a fun car to drive!
My CX five will be on the road 20 years after that piece of junk is in the scrapyard.
@@frankkoolosko4255The hornets I'm seeing are selling for under 25k new.
I wouldn’t buy any Dodge vehicle…special this turd. There is a reason why the lots are full of them, and the ridiculous high price is only part of the reason.