I Killed My 2022 WRX
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- In todays video, I talk about my recent experience with my 2022 Subaru WRX. When I talked about what was going on on my Instagram story a few weeks ago, I got a barrage of messages asking me what happened. So I made a video. Keep in mind this was a random freak incident that I have never heard of happening before, so rest easy, your car will be just fine!
My IG: @Streetlnspired
Thanks again to:
Import Image Racing
Cobb Tuning
Clark Turner Tuning
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That is incredible! Cobb went above and beyond, no one pays for tows and everything else...so great!
For sure! Definitely thankful for them, and for you guys! ❤️
This is incredible! Good on you everyone involved to make sure you got taken care of.
This is why I'm keeping my WRX stock besides just putting in the exhaust and drop in filter. Don't wanna deal with these type of situations. The VB WRX stock drives perfect as is and it's much better than the VA, but I don't race or track it so speed isn't everything for me.
Exactly. I'd never tune a car under warranty
I 100% agree. I don't want the headache for my daily. If it was a weekend car then maybe, but never a daily.
@@2strokeFORever I have an SPT so performance mod is extremely limited, but don't need much. Just get mods that improve the feel and handling and you can have a better driving experience.
Warranties were meant to be broken
drop in filter and no tune is exactly why you will deal with these type of situations
all i heard this whole video is that cobb is the goat both in customer service and product
I've had nothing but good experiences with them
This is almost unheard type of customer service. Huge shout out to Cobb!
Yeah, right?? He didn't even follow cobb's instructions, told them he didn't follow the instructions properly, and they STILL offered to pay for it. Absolutely incredible. This video is probably the best PR for Cobb I've ever seen.
Aren't you supposed to have the key in the ON position and not actually ON when your flashing a tune ? Or am I wrong on that
@@FunkyWRX yeah, wow! That seems like the problem! The engine should NOT be running when flashing.
Unfortunately sometimes these situations occur and it’s a pain to find out who to talk to and whatnot, but I’m glad you took the initiative and were respectful and persistent!
Rip, glad you got everything resolved. Cobb is awesome 🔥
WOW, bro WHAT a STORY! I cant even believe you had to go through all this. Cobb is so amazing to have dine all this for you. I think being a youtuber really saved you here too. That and your resilience. I wonder how they would have reacted if it was a regular person, ya know. Just make aure to plug a battery chatger to it now 😂. Im glad you mentioned all this because im actually getting a lawyer to discuss the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. I think more people beed to know the truth!
Can't wait for you to put out that video! And I'm actually not the first person this happened to, I received several DMs on IG from people with the same situation, and Cobb helped them out also which was very nice to hear!
@@StreetInspired1 Man, that is great. I must admit your video scared me a little as a Cobb and a tune is in my near future.
He didn’t need a charger, he needed to have the car in accessory mode and not actually running (listen to the clip in the video)
@Nicholas Applegate the car wasn't running. The sound you hear is the throttle body opening and closing. And other electronics. It made that sound everytime you put it into the on position.
@@StreetInspired1 oh, for real?!?!
All I hear is I am impatient. Worked for subie as tech. Voided alot of warranties because of stuff like this. This is why I tell ppl if your car has warranty DO NOT MOD IT!
That's the thing with 20-something year old guys. Their brains aren't fully baked yet and there is no talking to them about warranties and modding their cars literally to death. They dump thousands of dollars into bolt on nonsense and then go all surprised Pikachu face when they destroy a perfectly good car and blame the manufacturer.
That's honestly refreshing to hear about that kind of customer service. Glad you got it worked out and excited to see once you get the protune set up
Moral of the story: Use a battery tender when flashing to be safe! Glad you got it all taken care of man! Cobb has awesome customer service!
You can still brick an ECU with a charger on the battery.
I don't think this was bricked due to that--but absolutely yes. I've seen many BMWs go down due to this very simple mistake. 10A charger is a must.
You’re very fortunate Subaru worked with you as much as they did. Most manufacturers do everything they can to deny coverage even on stock vehicles. Glad to hear Cobbs support was excellent. Clark is a great tuner I used him for my sti years ago, will use him again when I get the new wrx eventually. Curious how the e85 will turn out, I’ve heard people run into fueling issues past e50.
Dude the exact same thing happened to me! beat for beat i had the exact same experience! Thats crazy you went through the same thing but im glad the car is back
Did cobb help you out?
@@fayizd654 Yea they helped me out. They said they would have sent me a new ecu if they had an extra one but they paid for my towing bill and all the repairs. It just took 2.5 months for the ECU to be delivered
Let's be honest, can't blame Subaru for having this mindset in regards to an ECM problem. In reality, I'd guess most of the time if there is a real ECU problem and there was an AP involved in any way, it's probably a great indicator that the problem is from the tuning.
I definitely can't blame them. I even told the people at subaru "I can't blame you for not wanting to install it" but eventually with proof that it was an oem part directly from Subaru they agreed and did the install.
@Street Inspired yup yup, glad you got it all fixed man. I'd be going crazy, waiting to see if I have to set some money on fire to fix it all.
Yeah you can this happens with all kinds of products with firmware. Its not difficult to add a a second bios or whatever to the ecu as well as a battery backup.
@@Gabriel-vj1cf you're willfully ignoring the CRAZY high percentage of WRX owners that fuck up their car by modding and tuning. There's a much higher chance that any issue that comes up is from user error vs. anything else.
wow, I love cobb so much for this, they really do put the community first. mad respect❣️
I bought a certified pre-owned 2015 Subaru legacy and the front diff went up at 65K miles. The warrany for a certified pre-owned is 7 years or 100,000 miles. I had the car for 6.5 years and they told me that the warranty expired, because they did the work to make it certified 6 months before I bought it.
@@ashten2005 yeah thats ridiculous. I never understood the whole “5 years or 60K miles” type of warranties. My brother’s throttle body was going out on his 2017 WRX at around 43K miles and obviously it was faulty. The car more than 5 years old but was under 60K miles nonetheless. But they wouldn’t cover it because it was past 5 years. Apparently its not 60K miles OR 5 years but whichever one comes first. So although the car was below 60K miles, it was past the 5 year duration so they wouldn’t cover it. Powertrain warranty is very misleading.
@@rammy3767 I think a law should be passed where every consumer warranty should start at the PoS rather than whenever the manufacturer wants it to start. I know they would probably end grandfathered wannarties after a certain year, but it would help consumers from getting screwed out of service because of manufacturers date, or when certified servicing was done.
@@ashten2005 yeah that's totally bogus, I feel for you man. Subaru Dealerships are pretty damn sketch and nearly impossible to work with. Did you try getting in touch with Subaru of America seeing if they could resolve?
@@rammy3767 I figured that would have fallen on deaf ears, so I ended up getting a 23' Outback Premium
As someone who used to work for Subaru, yes they were BSing you. They 100% can rewrite the vin on a ecm. It’s more of a concern of if the part is stolen, and that liability if it damages the car.
It’s not just cobb, it’s anything aftermarket. Tbh being a tech in the industry what Subaru did was pretty standard. It’s to cover their ass in case something happens to your car so you can’t blame them for it. Dealers don’t install aftermarket parts, plain and simple
Man that is great that Cobb send up like they did man! I glad everything worked out well for you, I know what it is like not having your ride for any amount of time!
Darn auto correct messed up my comment meant to say “stepped up” not sent up😅
Cobb sounds like a great company to worth with or even work for. I love their communications with the customer and their internal communications. I wish my work place had such maturity and wherewithal. Nothing better than excellent communications.
I have had no issues with my 2022 WRX. I bought it March 11th. No issues that people had with the screen. I have since done a full exhaust with a catted downpipe, a TMIC and charge pipe, and an intake. Got it tuned 3 weeks ago, and have had no issues. I think the main problem are people using OTS maps on the accessport. Its worth it to spend the money to have your car tuned on a dyno IMO.
Subaru: "We can't prove it [the ECU] hasn't been tampered with"
0: "Ok, so then you are saying you can't prove ECU's _have_ been tampered with"
Subaru: angry_npc.jpg
One of the most relieving things I ever did was watch my WRX drive away with a different owner. Every Subaru WRX and STI owner will eventually start having more stress than fun with their car, which is such a shame since its the only car like it on the market.
At what point did your WRX start stressing you out?
Lots of people saying about the battery charger. Did you guys watch the whole video? He ends up saying the battery wasn't the issue and it was a software issue on the Accesport. Cobb did a great job here, but I think they ended up fixing it because they knew it was their fault and not his.
I have a 2018 WRX that I bought new and put a COBB tune on it after about 6 months of break in. It works great! I kept my car stock other than the tune for the past 5 years for this exact reason: any modified parts will definitely void the warranty. Even having the tune can void the warranty. I was OK with the risk because ultimately I could afford to lose my warranty..but who wants to lose their warranty? I did have two warranty repairs done with zero problems with the dealership. Now that it's past warranty though I think it's time to put a new exhaust on hehe.
...And this is why it's nearly impossible to find an umolested used WRX.
And this is why I know that I will get top dollar when I trade in my WRX. Kept it bone stock except for a few Subaru OEM parts like lighted floor boards and grille.
I had a horrible experience with an access port on my car as well. I couldn't get it to flash my ecu for some reason. I had to send it to cobb to do the flash for me. Right after I got it back and plugged up the flashed ecu, my Turbo failed! So I ended up selling the access port, putting a new turbo on the car and trailering it to a tuner that completely robbed me blind. They held the car hostage for months. They even stole a peice off of my car and put it on their own racecar!
So I'm clearly not happy with either one of them but agile automotive in the philly/ dc area I'd certainly like to warn people about.
Wow! Cobb really stepped up on this one!
absolutely amazing how cobb stepped up. props to you Cobb. They absolutely have my business moving forward. I have been considering this care and JB4 moving forward. This story is awesome. I'll stay with COBB. This right here is a story you never hear in the tuning industry for some reason.
Kinda similar situation 😢 my car has been down because of trying to get the car paint matched. But you just gotta stay persistent and everything will work out 😊 it’s always beneficial to have some helping hands also!!!
I program ECU’s for a living, a battery maintainer is MANDATORY when flashing any ECU or things like this happen. Don’t ever flash anything without at least 13.5 volts or you risk bricking the EEPROM
Absolutely need a battery charger--coming from the BMW tuning world, it's absolutely critical on these newer vehicles. I have a Solar 10A charger and it works awesome. Once hooked up to the charger, you should also have door closed, HVAC off, everything disconnected, everything that could be off turned off. Obviously looked like you had enough charge at the start, so it doesn't really matter here, but I've never had issues following those rules.
One thing that is odd is HOW on earth subaru can't just debrick their ECU. Crazy how phones have more advanced recovery options than vehicle ECUs. It is also very common that ECUs lock to a VIN. This is why you normally have to go to a third party for bench unlock.
I will say I think what you did with Subaru is really kinda BS. When you tune the car, you have to accept you will not have a warranty. Trying to obscure this is... not ethical.
Well handled. My 2017 6-speed VA WRX Premium Cobb tune went smoothly, and really was necessary for that model. I would not have kept it, had the Cobb tune not utterly transformed it with linear throttle and far less rev hang. Now I love it more than I did my BMW M3! I'm twice your age and still might have "blown a gasket" in your situation :o)
Yes it was the same way with my 2018, stock tune was bad. And with the 2022 WRX there is so much untapped potential with the bigger engine it's begging for a custom tune!
I noticed that after updating the firmware on my AP V3, the AP takes a considerable amount of time to connect to my VA STI's obd2 interface. It also disconnects from it, while the car is running, on occasion. Not sure if it's just mine or if anyone else has experienced this behavior with their AP. Best of luck through your scary times.
yeah it's all about financial liability on subaru's side of things. they used to be a lot more mod friendly 10 or so years ago with some dealerships selling aftermarket products from companies like cobb and aem. but i think due to the tightening of smog regulations, financial budgets being much tighter in regards to warranties, subaru had to change their mindset about things like this.
I don't blame Subaru one bit. These kids think they're race car drivers and blow up their $30k daily driver. Subaru should void warranties when the car owner is this irresponsible.
if your worried about warranty, don't mod cars. I have modded many cars and I immediately know warranty is done and that is part of the game we play.
The only reason I do use the battery charger is because I’ve had a ups backup save motherboards on high end computers during a bios flash. Anytime I do any firmware updates on anything I setup redundant power sources. I’ve had a surge and outage brick a few expensive pieces of hardware throughout the years. Mostly during bios flashes. And they cannot void warranty for tuning. In fact they have to prove that what you did is that caused the issue.
Everybody went a step and beyond. I can understand Subaru. They really just want OEM products on the cars to protect the warranty and I'm sure they have SOP's that prohibit them from doing certain things to vehicles even if they wanted to.
I had the typical throw out bearing noise on my 2017 Wrx and Subaru of America warrantied a brand new clutch kit for zero cost to me. They really hooked it up
SOA is usually really good. My 2015 wrx had the issue with the pitch stop breaking off. And my car was past the cut-off but they still warrantied it!
Wow. This is exactly why I don't mess with tunes. The risk just isnt worth it to me. Im glad you got it figured out
its good to keep margins
Even after you making a mistake cobb really came through and took care of you! Glad you got it figured out
I've responded to a ton of these comments but I'm just clearing the air since people missed that section in the video. This wasn't my mistake. It was a firmware issue on the Accesport and Cobb has had multiple cases exactly like mine and seam to have figured it out now. But either way I'm thankful for all they did for me!
@@StreetInspired1 OH! sorry about that, but yeah seems like both u and cobb did yalls job to get the subie back on the street!
I'm already a Cobb customer and will be more so after hearing your story! Glad everything worked out for you.
Moral of story people.........CONNECT YOUR BATTERY CHARGER! 🙃
I agree about Cobb, but Idk if that was the moral of the story. He said it ended up being a software issue in the Accesport. So it was never about the battery voltage. I'll probably still continue flashing without a charger as I've done for the last few years.
@@tannerl2971 Humor big guy......HUMOR!
With that said that is based clearly of Cobb's directions and STARK recommendation.
However if you do flash without a charger and have issues Cobb may not be as generous with the next person. i def don't want to test that though, so flash away with out a charger ..for the record I have flashed (MANY TIMES) without using a charger
So moral of story!
USE YOUR CHARGERS!.
Good thing you didn’t tell subaru you fried the ecu by flashing the access port, when I got my first Subaru they told me point blank that a Cobb access port or anything Cobb voids warranty immediately, so now I’m thinking, what if it’s just a shift knob
Been using Cobb since 2004, when the AP first came out. Was an active member on the Cobb forums. They’re a great company. People would brick their ECU’s while flashing. Cobb would instruct customers to mail in their ECU to have it fixed by Cobb.
In your case, you had a fully working car. You tried to flash a tune, and something messed up. Not SOA or Subaru dealer’s problem. Dealership offered you FREE 2 month loaner, and Cobb offered to foot the bill for everything, and you were complaining bc you had videos to make and car shows to go to? They were giving you a loaner - get creative doing videos on the loaner. Go to the car shows, do videos, adjust and move on. With car modding, nothing goes to schedule, and you need to be flexible. If you can’t pivot, then maybe this isn’t for you.
I was expressing in the video what was going through my head. I never once complained to Subaru. I was nothing but grateful at their willingness to help and provide the loaners. I even started the video by saying that everyone I mentioned in the video was nothing but helpful.
Subaru won't install any aftermarket parts at 3 service centers near me. On top of that 2 of them refused to put an actual subaru part on my car since I provided it and they said cause it wasn't specifically made for that year model 😐
That's great that were supported by all of them. Congrats!
I'm not sure but I don't think the car is supposed to be running while the access port is loading ? On thought it was supposed be in accessory mode with a battery charger plugged into it to make sure it doesn't turn off?
The engine was off. The sound you heard in the video was all of the sensors clicking trying to initiate the start up sequence and failing and retrying over and over.
Just came across your channel because I’m interested in maybe getting the new WRX however the black plastic still looks horrible to me anyway I am a 2013 Legacy 3.6 R owner and let me just tell you any battery from the factory on a Subaru car is shit my car which has the biggest engine Subaru makes came with a 480 cca battery I can’t remember what the running time on the piece of crap was, The first thing I did is I jumped over to something higher a Johnson control battery at the time it’s solved all my issues I am now currently running a group 24 with 700 and something to CCA.. run time is like 120 minutes now…. if you look at for instance Toyota on there 3.5 they are running 800 to 850.
Cooks the first ECU, begs COBB and SOA to fix it, they do and then decides "I'm gonna tune this car again!"
@brandonbuzzell7451 yeah... because cobb updated the software. You're commenting on something without knowing the full story.
This is EXACTLY why i had Cobb on my last wrx...and now that i am finally comfortable with the new platform, I will again buy COBB for anything I can. Let Subaru report you, they really have been going downhill for about a decade now for reasons exactly like this and what they did to their own Ambassadors and a long list of others...but the WRX is one of the best year round toys your money can buy.
You really gonna dog on Subaru because kids can't follow simple instructions and brick their cars/void their warranties? SMDH.
That's why if you don't know sht about cars just don't touch em....
I know plenty about cars. I could rip the engine and transmission out of this car in a few hours. This wasn't my fault. And that's why if you don't know the person, you shouldn't judge. And if you don't actually watch the video, you shouldn't comment.
@@StreetInspired1 "This wasn't my fault."
Dude, you're delusional. You literally borked your ECU because you couldn't follow simple instructions like "hook up a battery charger". In what universe is this not your fault??
@brandonbuzzell7451 Did you not watch the whole video?... It wasn’t the battery. Subaru changed something in the software that cobb was unaware of so as soon as you try to flash it, it bricks the ECU. This happened to hundreds of cars. Cobb ended up having to update the accesport software.
New fear unlock💀
Bader Racing just made a video about this issue with the battrery charger. USE a battery charger when using the AccessPort. He said it takes like 35-40 minutes to download. Do this and you should be good.
Will be interesting to see what these cars are capable of with just bolt-ons and full builds, with 91 / 93 and E85 respectively.
did you take your sports grill off or was this before that video?
Pretty sure my 22 had something similar. Car drove fine and then electronics went haywire. Luckily it happened *before* I tuned it (thank god) and everything got replaced under warranty. I bet you if you drive the car a few more miles before tuning you would have had the same thing come up.
If you haven't, you should....Connect a battery charger when you are flashing!!
This applies for any tuning platform. The electronics in modern cars have a good amount of battery draw.
Morale of the story if you want no aggravation leave the car alone.
It's not in my blood to leave the car alone. If I bought a car to keep it stock I would buy something much different than a subaru. Lol
Practice what you preach
No one buys a WRX to keep it stock.
*Moral
yeah he’s slow
LOL, yes I do hook up a trickle charger when I flash a tune. No I'm not lying.
Amazing support from Cobb and congrats to getting everything fixed. What a scary feeling that must have been!
Grear news on Cobb helped you out to that extend. Good company.
Here's my personal thinking, i would never give Subaru the ammo, if i can't flat out afford a short block replacement or any ECM replacement.
"Here's a Crosstrek Loaner"
When I took my STI in to get the recalls done, they gave me a base Outback.
The outback and the crosstrek are very similar. Just different sizes. My dealership has crosstrek, Forester, outback, and legacy rentals.
I've really been wanting an AP for my '20 WRX, but I know even a stage 1 tune with zero mods Subaru will pretty much black lists you on covering things. So I'm holding off, yes that sux, but keeping warranty seems pretty important to me. Since if anything happens they'll point at the AP tune no matter what to avoid taking responsibility. Sorry to say but when you decide to buy/install an AP with a current warranty, you're a little dim if you think everything's still covered.
People don’t hook up battery chargers?? I make sure my battery stays at 13v by having the charger on and turning on things until it’s at 13v
Doesnt matter what brand it is, if your car is modified in anyway, its not warranted, im a Toyota service advisor and this shit happens all the time
Not sure I believe that. Subaru said my intake and catch cans didn't void my warranty at all. My old wrx was heavily modified and had some warranty work also
@@StreetInspired1 Subaru might be a tad more lenient, but at Toyota, if say a 79 series comes in with a catch can and an airbox, it's about a 50-50 chance they get warranty, Toyota hate catch cans.
And it's a 100% chance you won't get warranty if you have a flash tune. They are very harsh with going over your service intervals as well
@@jordyb323 yeah Toyota is a lot harsher with that stuff. Fortunately most of Toyota's sportier offerings are already setup pretty nicely especially the BMW Supra.
@@Ziegfried82 BMW supra indeed haha
As Subaru tech, I have to tell u a lot of reprogramming for modules regardless which, on the procedure it always mention to have the Subaru DCA-8000 hooked up with power supply mode. Good thing to remember.
Great info, thank. So would an access port for the 22 wrx work on the 2023 wrx?
Yep! The 22 and 23 will use the same Accesport.
@@StreetInspired1 thank you bro, hope to run into you one day
I got a '16 wrx. Modified. What happened to tgv and egr deletes, catless downpipe, muffler deletes? New wrx too much unpainted plastic
Muffler Deletes are still a thing, but the EPA cracked down hard on all that other shit. My old wrx had TGV & EGR Delete and catless downpipe. But I wasn't able to get my old wrx retuned with all of that stuff. It has nothing to do with the new car and everything to do with the stupid laws (mostly originating from California)
Couple of questions.
1. Sounds like you didnt have to say how the ECU got fried with Subaru. Didn't Subaru ask you when you dropped it off initially if you installed an Accessport?
I would think that would be the first question they would ask.
2. If Subaru took initiative to begin fixing the issue, why did you assume Cobb will be paying for all cost?
Thanks
So initially, I told subaru it just happened because I was advised by a few people not to say anything to jeprodize my warranty. Cobb accepted responsibility immediately and told me to take it to Subaru and they would reimburse me for all costs. But because I didn't say anything to subaru, they were going to replace it under warranty. Until I found out it would be 2.5 months for an ECM to show up. After telling Cobb this, they shipped out the ECM to Subaru. At the time of them installing it and everything coming from Cobb I'm sure they had their suspicions about tuning but they never asked if I had tuned or attempted to tune the vehicle so I still never said anything. But because it wasn't a direct part from subaru headquarters, I still had to pay the full price of the repairs (which cobb reimbursed) and they had to submit a modified vehicle report to SOA that basically killed my warranty on any future ECM issues and could potentially be used to deny other related warranty claims.
@@StreetInspired1 thanks for sharing your experience.
I have a Cobb and ETS intake on my car. And I agree I would only answer questions that are asked and that would be it.
Also I didn't have a battery tender when I was flashing my VB. It's a 22 and battery is new right? I luckily didn't have an issue but for anyone else watching it might be a good idea just to do it even though it sounds like that wasn't your issue.
@badbeatking80 That was my mindset and although it ended up not being that, it still scared me into using one now. Never hurts to be safe.
Reminds me of when I has a Dinan tune on a BMW and the dealer was refusing to do warranty work on a leaking convertible roof. Crazy.
a local shop here in my town said they had to do a motor replacement under warranty even tho they where sure it was caused by the fact there was nitrous run through the motor.. but supposedly could not prove it.
This sounds like a Subaru nightmare. I’m glad you got it fixed. Sold my VA STI and never buying another Subaru unfortunately
What a fantastic way to promote themselves! By providing the best customer service!
I had something similar happen to mine as well. I have the push button and wasn’t too familiar how the push button worked. Long story short, I cut my flash off at 1% on accident and mine wouldn’t start. Lucky for me my tuner was able to fix it.
Same exact thing has happened to me, I just sent out my ecu and access port to Cobb hope they can fix it lol but if not we’ll see what happens.
Fingers crossed, I'm sure they'll take care of you!
So one thing we learn here is that the reason why subaru don't have anymore ecu was that cobb bought all their ecu's.
I flashed my 08 sti a few times w Cobbs and never hooked up a battery charger.
This is why I only drive classics because there is no such thing as a dealership that knows anything
Will always listen to Cobb rules now before flashing lol.
I went from cobb over to ecutek (still cobb) to be able to tune the car how it should be. Bricked my ecu 3 different times and had my 21 wrx down for 8mo. Cobb recovered the ecu every time but the last time they stripped screws and left them in, smeared rtv everywhere on the outside and inside, and it showed up looking like they threw it down a flight of stairs and told me nothing. I contacted them and they tried to blame it on me saying I put "black locktite" on the threads (that they worked on) and they would not help me with any more recoveries. (Even though it is ecutek's (cobb) fault for not having the process correct for a 21. Love it.
they didnt want u as a customer anymore.... bricked it 3 times? lol....
@red-bd3mc Exactly. After their guys said they found and fixed the coding problem every time. Easier to just dump a customer. The ecutek side is jumping on the green cuck train anyway so at this point it wouldn't matter anyway unfortunately.
I had the same issue where my tune was staying at 1% for a long time and kept turning off. But mine just started working after a few more attempts and i had to unmarry it and remarry. Was stuck at the gas station with E85 in and trying to tune it 😭
Add me to the 90%! I have flashed/removed AP so many times without a battery charger. The first flash on my VB it seemed a tad slower than my VA cars but other than that nothing unusual. It seems yours was a freak thing with the ecu. It also makes me wonder.. having another ecu requires the stealership to do that initialization/install? I have never had a backup ecu but it seems some important things need to be done after seeing your vid to even consider a backup ecu. Thanks for letting us know it needs to be brand new and not linked to another vin. If Subaru needs to do the reprogramming that will never work for us modified peeps.
Glad you got your car up and running and that Cobb took care of you.
just got my 23 wrx yesterday and Subaru told and made me sign a paper work that I can't modify my exhaust system with aftermarket in order to keep my warranty
That’s really cool to hear Cobb being so great.
Did you buy ap directly from Cobb?
I deff feel like because of who you are and the influence you have on youtube cobb was extra nice I dont think just anybody would’ve gotten that sort of treatment.They would’ve been downbad if you werent a supporter of them
To be fair, I never once mentioned my youtube channel to them. So for all I know they had no idea. I still don't see myself as a big youtuber by any means, so I doubt I got any special treatment because of that.
@Street Inspired influence is influence. Any video you produce has a chance to go viral and make any company look good or bad. Any company, especially for a niche market like WRX tuning, will take extra care and precaution to avoid bad press.
Its possible they were going above and beyond with service buts it's also the reality that any bad experience might have a video made.
@clay180 This may be the case for anyone though. Anybody could post a video and get a viral reaction from itm I've seen videos with millions of views and it's the person's only video on here. I completely agree with you that in todays world almost any company has to be careful of people posting bad reviews online. I've actually gotten a few DMs on Instagram though and I'm not the first person this happened to and Cobb took care of the others as well which was good to hear.
tbh i don't think Cobb cares about influence as they know we can't really do anything to our cars without them (the other options are way more expensive) but they did great in this situation.
@Scott Bond I agree with this. They got a ton of backlash all over social media for the green speed stuff with the flex fuel etc and people lost their minds and Cobb stuck to their guns and ignored all the hate and now they're starting to release those compliant flex kits
Great story, thanks for the intel. Can I unmarry my 2019 wrx AP and use it on my 2022?
I believe you can but you will have to have Cobb re license your Accessport for the 22.
cobb got us all covered cobb is the goat
I havnt dealt with Subaru but I know Hyundai was able to detatch an ECU from a Vin. There was a certain procedure to do it and there could only ever be one ecu hooked to a vin(to prevent swapping tuned ecus for stock like the good ol days). I would lean more the dealer just didnt wanna bother with it.
Well as a technician for Subaru I can tell you an exhaust does not void your warranty… sucks your dealer is a weirdo but you do have to know if you have an intake and access port with a tune. I mean come on you can’t expect everything to be warranty
3:29 I always have a battery charger hooked up just in case. If anyone doesn't' have one, I've had the Loftek 1000A jump charger for years and it's been great.
Never had a battery charger connected to my Fiesta St while flashing tunes. Probably did 100+ times without any issues.... I've got a friend with a focus st that does the same and never had any issues
Coob treats you better than the subaru factory
Man what a customer service from Cobb ❤❤❤
Btw Subaru seems more flexible with tuning than VW. VW will void your warranty for a cai even an exhaust. The dealer scam the ecu and if it was flashed that's an inmidiate warranty void 😂😂😂😂
Wow they straight denied my warranty claim when my motor seized up and SOA denied the warranty and it turns out that it was a bad bearing on cylinder 3 my sti has been sitting for over a year in the garage with the motor in boxes inside of it smh !!! and i still am paying for the car !!! At least you got your car fixed!!!
This is why I moved on from Subaru. It was fun for a while but then it became a constant worry about engine blowing up. My car went through two engines and both failures has nothing to do with tuning or lack of care. The oil pickup tubes cracked and starved the bearings. In my local Subaru club, only one or two people had done without at least once engine failure.
Wow what a story! Cody the only thing I am confused about is the 2nd ECM that Cobb sent; I thought the first one they sent was "used" and the second one they sent was also "used." If the second one was truly brand new, sealed in plastic and whatnot, why didn't they just send you that first? Maybe an experiment to see if the used one would work? And if not, how did Cobb manage to have a brand new ECM if they are so severely backordered? Maybe they have some on hand in case they break something during R&D.
Cobb told me they had a few laying around that they originally bought for R&D purposes. Cobb is still unsure how the first one ended up being used because they swore they sent out a new unit, so it may have some how got mixed up and they sent the wrong one. The second one they send was brand new and had no assigned Vin which is why subaru was then able to install it.
Would it work with an 2020 outback XT?
This is actually pretty awesome. knowing anybody else lucky it could have ended very terrible👍🏾 Subaru loves to give people the shaft and void anything.
it almost sounds like someone at the dealership swiped the first new ecm cobb sent, and replaced it with a bad one.
Every accessport owners nightmare to start.
I did have the battery charger hooked up to my MPS (Speed3) and it was all good.
Sounds like the AP failed.
I wouldn’t recommend voiding your warranty unless you have lots of disposable $$$
Cobb are A class, went over and beyond. Subaru within there rights to tell you to walk…you got lucky and not overly bright and that is being VERY generous.. this helps no one .
Subaru only refused to install it to try to save my warranty. Had it not been a brand new car they would've just did the repair I asked them to. But commenting that "I'm not overly bright and that's being VERY generous" is pretty rude. I'm not the only person this happened to and it was out of my control. I'm far from an idiot and know my way around a car. I've literally built cars from stripped out shells by myself with no help. I don't know everything, but I what happened here doesn't make me stupid.
@@StreetInspired1 you are correct, that was rude, apologies I have reconsidered and was out of line. Removing the offensive part of reply.
Good information, lots of great points here to jot down especially regarding SUBARU etc,