4 vehicles in one: AWD Crossover, Daily driver, Super-efficient hybrid, and Performance vehicle (Car & Driver got 5.4 second 0-60 time) Toyota gives you a lot for about $40k
@Ces K people still drive 90s priuses. Nobody is buying a $8000 or whatever battery for a $2000 car - people just rebuild these batteries on the cheap. Shitty rebuild lasts a year or two, good rebuild that replaces every last one of the battery modules lasts almost as long as a new battery, while costing several times less. I want this Rav4 Prime. If I had the money - I'd get one immediately. It's really just a larger, higher clearance, cool, straight looking Prius Prime - and I do love the idea of having a prius prime.
Ces K nope, if it was a regular hybrid, your point would be more valid. If your daily commute is under 80 miles, you could run on 100% electricity everyday and not spend a single penny on gas (if you charge your car at work and home). You would save 10k in 5 years time, so definitely worth.
PHV is best because you can feel ev-acceleration, no range anxiety, long travel use, fuel efficient, several minutes of fueling (and only a few hours of charging if you like). Perfect.
But you are also hauling a gas engine, electrical motors, a tank of gas and a heavy battery. It weights 400kg more than rav4, 250kg more than rav4 hybrid, 150kg more than model y. Long distance gas economy isn't that good.
from time to time you should spin that gasoline motor just to ensure gasoline does not corode certain parts; depending on the gasoline type you are using.
@@dan_hitchman007 I found out about the Prime by looking on TH-cam a year ago after local dealers were trying to gouge me for 5k over sticker for a 2020 rav 4 hybrid LTD. I bought this at sticker with 11k in credits and rebates and do consider myself lucky. Another thieving local dealer has 2 on lot, marked up 10k over sticker.
@@attackroflchopter4403 Yeah, probably in two or more years. Just like the new F-150 that has a base battery of only 200 miles per charge and a $40,000 starting MSRP. They're show pony vehicles to meet California eco standards. There is a severe battery and lithium element shortage that won't be solved soon.
Unfortunately, we are going to have a very long wait because of the limited number of vehicles that they will be sending to the United States and just about everywhere else. 🤦♂️
That's really good for a midsize SUV. Also 71miles minus 30 EV uphill so 41 divided by .8gals is 51mpg mostly down. They would have had over 100 E-mpg if started full battery and used ev-auto. Because that would turn on gas during harder working times because it's actually more efficient than accelerate on gas. Then the car would be in EV way more miles.
Haha I get 25 in my kia sportage..... keep kinda feels bad....like.... reconsidering life choices bad.....who am I? What am I? Is this even real?...... Light creates darkness, it never asked to be...... 11100101010010101010001101010111010101
I wish another manufacturer would take the idea of an i3, but with a larger battery pack and slightly larger fuel tank. Maybe 200 miles of EV range + 150 miles of gas range, all wrapped up in something the size of a 3 series
If you plan to operate it on EV mode most of the time, the gasoline-powered engine system will degrade over time. Gasoline is volatile and will absorb moisture, so if it is bot depleted on a regular basis, it gets stale. Have you tried to start up a lawnmower that has been sitting in a shed for a long time?
@@korswe That's not how that works. The i3 and Volt both force a maintenance cycle that runs the motor to burn off gas, and then require you to refill with some fresh gas afterwards.
Andrew Holst. Good point. However, running some sort of a maintenance program to burn off stale or would-be-stale gasoline wouldn’t run long enough for the ICE to get hot enough to keep the valves. I know it’s a four banger with both port and direct injection, but you still need to run the engine hot for a long period of time. I’ve serviced many engines before. Customers with lots of city driving tend to more issues with everything than freeway drivers.
@@korswe you're forgetting two things...with an hybrid, you could go on long road trips and refresh the gas...an hybrid even with a degraded battery pack, still moves around.
@@WirableCrown1 Punch in the gut? Nothing says you have to buy it! Besides I wouldn't blame them on this one, the Prius Prime didn't have that good of a reception but it only offered about 20 miles. Plus it isn't a Rav4. People wonder why the Prius' sales are going down it's because it's ugly and Toyota started hybridising (is that a word?) the Camry and others.
I just drove my 2013 Chevy Volt 175 miles from Mapleton, Ut to Bear Lake Ut thru Wyoming over mountains. There and home again I averaged 52 mpg. 80 of those miles were 100% electric (40 each way). No range anxiety. Normal weeks we rarely if ever use gasoline.
You can log some incredible MPG on these PHEV's for sure. I can easily get 150mpg in my Honda Clarity PHEV when I'm commuting back and forth to work and don't completely drain the battery.
I heard that a lot when we bought our 2002 Prius. 200K miles later it has way more than paid for the difference (almost $5000 in those days.) It has consumed roughly 4000 gallons at an average price around $2.50 per gallon, or $10,000 in gasoline. If it were not a hybrid it would be hard pressed to do better than 25 mpg, being mostly in-town miles. At 25 mpg it would have consumed about $20,000 in gasoline. Saving $10,000 on a $20,000 car not good enough? Besides consumables: tires, wiper blades, 12V batteries (three of them) and a windshield, all it has needed beyond routine maintenance was a $150 inverter coolant pump I spent a couple hours replacing. I never had a car that had cost less than $500 per year, doing my own work.
@@nerdlywehunt I wish petrol was 2 bucks per here, we get humped with gas tax here in CA that puts us over 3 per gallon, and that tax will keep rising. I wanted a bigger, higher car that would be better to take camping. I bought the Prime because of the fuel mileage, but also because of the performance.
@@AD-sp5cv That is one thing that continues to bug me about Toyota. I understand how using the minimum of X per vehicle saves on production cost and complexity but when it comes to things like tail/brake lighting that is not something you should skip on. Now I am not sure if it has changed for the Camry by now but I still remember how they had used 4 tiny little lights in the 3rd brake cluster for what seems like generations and I always thought that looked cheap and risky even especially when cheaper brands/cars used 6 or more elements or an LED strip with more brightness.
@myofficegoes65 I guess you haven't been paying attention that several manufacturers are going to smaller lighting. It's a modern look and it does the job.
myofficegoes65 - That one thing that always bothered about Toyota vehicles. They have a big tail lights, but when the lights are lit is just a very small portion of all that acrylic that gets brightened. Some turn light signal on the Avalon is almost impossible to notice, especially during the day. That's one thing that I don't like about Toyota cars. For me is compromise of safety.
It’s illegal to have lights including break lights on a moving part of a vehicle (trunk that opens, door, hood etc.) that’s why they are not functional. Just for a looks
Absolutely incredible. I used to wonder what the point of phev vehicles was but realizing that you can make your daily commute without using any fuel is so cool. And having the flexibility to go on long road trips without the hassle of long charge stops is the real seller. There’s absolutely zero reason to buy all electric when you can have the best of both worlds
Guys, this is NOT a compliance car. Like the hybrid in 2016, Toyota cant ramp production up fast enough given component supply. It will catch up in 2021.
Or just the energy use. The way they did it doesn’t make sense, because the car runs on more than just gas. If you drive 20 miles in a plug-in hybrid that goes 30 miles on a charge, you didn’t just get infinity/undefined MPG. The spirit of MPG in this context is fuel economy, and it most certainly used some fuel (even if it was just electricity from the battery).
It might not make much difference. I have a Prius Prime, and if the battery is charged and the engine is cold, EV auto mode is almost identical to EV mode.
To complete the energy consumption figures you also need to charge the car to the level before the trip and add that energy(or its cost) to the gas consumption to give a total cost in cents per mile.
Exactly right, Dude. You nailed it. I did a rough calculation for my area. Electricity per killowatt hour costs .13 cents. If the battery is an 18 killowatt hour battery, it costs $2.34 to charge it from zero to full. He drove 71 miles using one gallon of gas. If you add on the $2.00 for electricity, the savings are practically nothing.
Nick V BUT if you have free charging at work or where you shop it helps the bottom line. Many free level 2 charging points around! Probably not worth going out of your way to charge though.
@@InternetDude Free charging or not, this friggin car costs $20K more than the regular Rav4. Don't you think that should be factored in here? If your buying the Prime to save money, you've made a huge mistake.
I would be interested to know how the end result is effected by adding in the cost of electric used to top up the battery back to the same level as the start as this is also a fuel used to transport the vehicle over this test. I was the owner of a PHEV and it was so annoying when the cost of charging the battery was never mentioned or included in running costs as it gives a false m.p.g. to prospective buyers. The cost should be converted to amount of fuel it be and added to the fuel used and the combined figure to give a True m.p.g.
Just picked up mine. 2 month wait. No dealer markup. Next year I’ll refill. By the way, the batteries last longer at city speeds vs freeway. And with half the battery gone, it takes only 5 hours on 110v to recharge. Lovin’ it….
"Most interesting and Best Toyota sold today..." good luck finding one. The few that will trickle into California dealerships will go for full MSRP + Dealer addons.
Hey TFL, you are NOT supposed to top off!! All manufacturers expressly tell you not too. Gasoline needs room to expand as temps vary. This will have a negative effect on your vehicle’s emissions systems and can also be dangerous.
smart one The only car you can top-off is the 1994 Toyota Celica. For some unknown reason, that year Toyota knew people would be overfilling that car and always trying to “top-off”.
@@smrtguy77777 gas expands and it goes into the evap system. The worst that could happen is you can possibly damage the evap. A huge majority People everyday top off their cars, its not like tanks are blowing up. Its not a big deal so quit making it one.
Curious about the AWD performance in snow and responsiveness in general. I am really surprised what my 2017 RAV4 can do, that wheel lock mode has come in handy a bunch of times.
Love our Rav4 Prime. When it's convenient to charge you charge and save in gas. If charging isn't convenient you run on gas while charging the battery. Our battery was at zero miles. We drove to church on gas and drove home on electric. Beyond that it's a fun car to drive.
Instead they provide the Etios and shit like that. But also cars like the Camry and Avalon and Verso never sold well in SA and never will. People will rather by a C Class or 3 series than pay so much for those cars. And minivans just don't sell either so the Sienna will be useless too. The only other thing they could bring is the Tacoma or Tundra and maybe the Venza. Everything else actually won't do well here.
@@johnsmith-gt3po Where are you from? Because the C Class and 3 series are literally everywhere. The criminals take more Toyota Fortuners, Hilux and VW Polo's than C classes and 3 series.
One thing that is difficult to quantify about a hybrid or PHEV is how quiet they are in city driving. When I'm in stop-and-go traffic during rush hour with my Avalon Hybrid or even the Ford Fusion hybrid I rented on a trip, the silence that comes from a car running on electricity rather than a gas engine helps ease my anxiety. I am glad that Toyota made a PHEV version of the RAV4 because a platform like that has plenty of room to hide a large battery while still leaving room for a decent amount of cargo.
Only 5k. Thats literally nothing when the rav4 sells 100s of thousands a year. I wonder where electric cars will be when they cant get the materials anymore
Charge hold works very well and charges the battery faster then with the 6.6KW charger. When you drive longer distances you can fully charge your battery on the highway and use EV when entering the city. I never use the cable to charge and never have waiting time to charge. That was the main reason I decided for the Prime. Unfortunately, this feature is never highlighted in any test.
My question is, how do you handle maintenance on the engine? If you drive a lot via EV mode then do you still need to do an oil change every 10K miles? Theoretically you should have less miles on the engine right? So how does that maintenance work?
That is a fair question. As an automotive technician, I can answer yo simply follow the maintenance schedule on the time frame for the oil change. Basically pretend the vehicle is sitting and simply change it once a Year.
Cool video, lots of good information. The charge battery button can be handy if you're going to be taking a interstate drive and then doing some city driving after that. You could leave with a full charge press that button and the car I believe will maintain battery charge and run mostly in a hybrid and gasoline mode. If you're going to be running down the interstate for 200 miles you're going to be running the gasoline engine anyway. So in certain circumstances that could be an efficient way to then drive on all electric at your destination city.
I see what you are saying and get it that recharge mode is best for those that run 70+ mph and darting in and out of traffic and simply trying to get where you need to go in a hurry and or travel and keeping up with faster traffic but once you hit traffic jam and or stop and go traffic well you are set with a ev mode or even if it is a fast pace traffic area and then you get to a slower part of a highway like 60-70 for a good stretch that you can go into ev mode
This car still amazes me, it's almost a no compromise in my opinion, it's quick, has amazing mpg, has AWD, unlike the escape, can sit 4 or 5 comfortably, this is amazing to me in an SUV
Thanks a lot. I am considering getting one of this so your info is helpful. 1. It's a Toyota, which means reliability and very little trouble maintainance wise. 2. An EV. 3. A gas car. 4. A hybrid. 5. A daily commuter. 6. An SUV, near mid-sized. 7. A quiet place, even when driving. 8. Eco friendly.
I wish people would stop saying, “when the battery dies,” when they mean “runs out of EV range.” The battery doesn’t die, it hits a buffer zone that forces gasoline to be used until charging is convenient and keeps the battery in a healthy state of charge.
They didn’t underestimate anything. Common sense would tell them they could easily sell 10X the 5,000 they allocated to the US. They are not new to car manufacturing and sales. They just didn’t want to sell many for some reason. Either because it a compliance vehicle being produced at a loss and they want to only sell the minimum possible or else because they are just using it as an experiment and don’t want to risk technical/mechanical issues dragging down their average reliability ratings if it was sold in mass quantities.
Question about the batteries and deepish water. I've forded streams as much as a foot and a half deep in my Outback to get to trailheads. If I had a RAV4 Prime, I would want it to be capable of doing that too. At a depth like that, the battery pack on the RAV4 Prime would be at least partially under water for a short time. Would this present a problem?
I drive a Pacifica PHEV, and I love it. This video shows what I really love about PHEV's. Any time you let off the throttle or gently press the brake, the vehicle is using the electric motor as a generator and pumping energy into your battery. FREE FUEL!!!!!!! I've driven without plugging in before and even without any charge in the battery, on a 100 mile round trip to L.A. it drove 30% on battery and averaged 31mpg. So in essence it produced free fuel, which it used for 30% of the drive. With gas prices in So. Cal. Averaging over $4.50 a gallon, I'm loving this PHEV. Plus it's saving on brakes and the engine is actually only being used less than 40% of the time while I plug it in, less need for oil changes and maintenance on the ICE engine. Theoretically at 100,000 miles the engine will have only driven about 40,000 miles and almost all of those are highway miles with NONE of them sitting there idling. I would think that PHEV RAV 4 would make an AWESOME Police cruiser.
Tommy, excellent review from the standpoint it encompasses the same day to day driving for most of us. We live in a small community and drive very little throughout the week. With the range demonstrated we would be EV all the time and charge on the night of day 3. The Hybrid would kick in on 300 Mile Road trips into the Interior Mountains. Thanks for sharing!
@@reyperez3424 it's not the same. The RAV4 Prime has bigger front motors than the Prius Prime. And it has a much bigger rear motor than the AWD Prius (not available as a Prime), which is only around 5hp.
@@reyperez3424 sorry, I misread the previous comment and didn't see that they were talking about the rear motor specifically. I think I was confused because the Prius Prime doesn't have a rear motor. But yeah, the AWD Prius rear motor is about 5 hp, and I think the RAV4 motor is more like 50-70hp. The biggest problem is how the traction control is programmed. The Prius is awful because they don't expect you to ever have a wheel off the ground. If one wheel is on ice, it just spins instead of applying the brakes to send power to the other wheel. I think the 5hp rear motor is theoretically strong enough to get the car off the rollers, but the car was just confused by the situation. The RAV4 hybrid is designed for light off-roading, and seems to do well with wheels in the air in the videos I've seen (probably another TFL video).
My question is, what if you never plug it in? What’s the gas mileage then? Seems counter productive if you have to gas it up and plug it in? Double the work for the improved gas mileage? If not, you are hauling dead weight.
you can use the charge mode while going downhill to produce enough charge back in town to avoid hybrid mode. Its still more efficient than running in hybrid mode around town since you can use the engine to help charge the battery optimally instead of using it for stop and go traffic later (if that makes sense)
@@chrismann1621 2500 pounds, actually, for the Prime. Regular Rav4 hybrid is 1750. Regular gas models are 1500. Adventure option pack on gas models is 3500.
@@dblissmn still stinks. Its just a matter of time when they're able to get the numbers to 3k and up on these. But even with 2500 its not enough to really matter.
Skeptical, they have yet to fix that gas filling issue with the 2019 and 2020 rav4 hybrids. I have the issue, and I can only fill like 10 gallons which totals about 100 - 120 less miles drive on a full tank for me. Then a few days ago, my battery died on less than 10k miles. Looks like they do not understand what the issue is, but from what I read is do not leave on your heat or cold seat on when you turn your car off!
But you have all the complexity and maintenance of a conventional car. Tesla’s have less than 1/3 of the moving parts of a comparable conventional car.
The mpg number is bogus because it drove mostly on the battery charge for that short drive. The electric portion threw off the average because it was over represented and not counted towards fuel use costs. By this standard, if you only drove only 30 miles, the mpg would be infinity? If you drove on a 400 mile road trip and used most of the tank and also counted the use of electricity, the mpg average would have been more valid.
14:25 when your EV range recharged up (from going downhill) to the distance to the office, that would have been a good time to put it back into EV mode.
I can see the CHG HOLD button being useful. People with long commutes can spend 30-40 miles on the highway. Rather than slowly drain the battery during the high speed/mpg highway driving, charge it up for once you get off the highway.
I'd imagine it's more of a charge HOLD over an active recharge function. Otherwise the MPG figure would plummet. Mitsubishi offers a mode for active recharging in the Outlander PHEV, the MPG will fall into the mid 20s.
You should see if they have a waiting list and get on it. Make a deal up front with a refundable deposit. My dealer was selling them at sticker with a waiting list from a year ago, took 10 months to get the car.
The prime is the best RAV4 you can buy. It's faster and cheaper to operate than the more conventional alternative. Unfortunately Toyota badly underestimated the vehicle and is only going to produce 5000 of them per year. They will be relegated to compliance status and available only in states like California.
CMG30 They do that because not all shops have the equipment or people to service these hybrids yet. Another year or two and the whole USA will get them like the Prius. = May also have some issues servicing these outside of California the first few years. =Bit it’s a Toyota and quality is among the best. If you can find one, I feel it is definitely worth a buy and probably the best car/suv you have ever purchased. People that own the Prius will be buying these for the extra room and functionality.
I don't think it was completely due to underestimating demand; I suspect it was an issue of being able to source enough battery modules to actually produce the vehicles. I guess they figured it was better to deliver _something_ in 2021 and get the old hype train going than wait for another model year.
Loved this video. Thank you. Am going to buy one but will wait a year or so until the kinks are worked out before I spend the big bucks. Bought a ‘97 then a ‘10 V6 , then a ‘16 Hybrid. You know I am going to need a plugin.
Hello from France, I have a 2020 outlander phev and the CHARGE mode is much more important as you mean. If your travel is more than EV autonomy : As a reminder rule number one is to arrive with the battery empty to consume less fuel. The HYBRID mode like SAVE mode alternates between EV mode and CHARGE mode only depending on battery level and your current speed. The car does not know what kind of road you are doing next 5, 10 or 15 miles etc... to finish your travel, you know that, city, road or highway. And it's more fuel efficient to used CHARGE mode on long flat road with stabilized speed or long downhill. When the fuel motor don't need big traction and charge the battery at the same time. Switch on EV mode at low speed, stop and start in the city, on uphill and when you increase speed, everywhere the fuel motor is less efficient. I drive only on EV Mode or CHARGE mode almost never in HYBRID mode or SAVE mode. With this method we consume less fuel and the bonus is you never hear the engine scream with the CVT gearbox. I mean the outlander is a better phev while he had adjustable regenerating pedals on the steering wheel. More you have to use the regenerating brakes that's mean you have spend too much energy before, freewheel is the most efficient way to driving an EV. Sorry for my bad translation. And thank you for your distracted videos.
Tommy, very good video and description of the RAV4 Prime. I think that the gas mileage should be based on the miles driven using the gas engine. Also you should calculate the cost to recharge the batteries. that would be the total cost of the trip. Also include the time to charge the batteries. TFL has done comparisons like that in the past. I get that you had limited time for the test. I think that would be a fairer comparison. When testing hybrids or electric vehicles TFL should set up a standard test for the best comparison. We rely on you guys to give us the best fair comparisons as well as being fun to watch. You guys do a great job! thanks again for a great video!
And better MPG range, acceleration, price, than Volkswagen ID4. This car will be selling really good, they just need to increase the production numbers.
I’ve driven fairly fast SUV like turbos X5, and they can be fun around city traffic lights.. but this thing looks even faster without all the huge gas costs! I’m getting it.. if I can find one !
5:15 this is nothing like a Tesla's autopilot. It only gives you a nudge back, it doesn't complete the entire turn for you like Tesla's. Pretty dangerous comparison you're making, majority of people are gonna believe your statement and be disappointed.
How uncomfortable are the seats? Do you have to plug it in every night? Will the gas take over if the battery is dead? So you have an extension cord in your driveway to charge the battery unless you park in the garage? Sounds like a pain.
Pretty impressive! But how much would be MPG if you don’t plug it in before. Let say if you go on vacation and when you back to home, don’t have place to plug in. 🤔
4 vehicles in one: AWD Crossover, Daily driver, Super-efficient hybrid, and Performance vehicle
(Car & Driver got 5.4 second 0-60 time)
Toyota gives you a lot for about $40k
Plus it'll still work in 25 years time.
@Ces K Wrong.
@Ces K wrong. Toyota warranty 10 year 250k
@Ces K people still drive 90s priuses. Nobody is buying a $8000 or whatever battery for a $2000 car - people just rebuild these batteries on the cheap. Shitty rebuild lasts a year or two, good rebuild that replaces every last one of the battery modules lasts almost as long as a new battery, while costing several times less.
I want this Rav4 Prime. If I had the money - I'd get one immediately. It's really just a larger, higher clearance, cool, straight looking Prius Prime - and I do love the idea of having a prius prime.
Ces K nope, if it was a regular hybrid, your point would be more valid. If your daily commute is under 80 miles, you could run on 100% electricity everyday and not spend a single penny on gas (if you charge your car at work and home). You would save 10k in 5 years time, so definitely worth.
PHV is best because you can feel ev-acceleration, no range anxiety, long travel use, fuel efficient, several minutes of fueling (and only a few hours of charging if you like). Perfect.
But you are also hauling a gas engine, electrical motors, a tank of gas and a heavy battery. It weights 400kg more than rav4, 250kg more than rav4 hybrid, 150kg more than model y. Long distance gas economy isn't that good.
@@wgemini4422 it's pretty darn good. 600 miles on full charge and full gas.
@@-a-8423 I can never understand why people confuse range with efficiency.
We have the prius prime and a 5 mile drive to work. Just over 2 years and on our 3rd tank of gas.
That's sick.
from time to time you should spin that gasoline motor just to ensure gasoline does not corode certain parts; depending on the gasoline type you are using.
@@cristianbotiza3971 if it's like the volt, it will run the gas engine to maintain itself even if it doesn't need to use it.
Hahahaha.
Can’t cycle to work?
The Rav4 Prime is simply the goldilocks vehicle! Enough electric range for city commute and near 600 mile range for long trips
And you cannot get one unless you were one of the lucky 5,000 who pounced. How cool is that!
@@dan_hitchman007 that sucks i know the pandemic would effect it but only 5,000?! That's too low
It will go much farther than 600 miles. I can do 600 on my 2012 Ford Fusion Hybrid (not kidding!).
@@dan_hitchman007 I found out about the Prime by looking on TH-cam a year ago after local dealers were trying to gouge me for 5k over sticker for a 2020 rav 4 hybrid LTD. I bought this at sticker with 11k in credits and rebates and do consider myself lucky. Another thieving local dealer has 2 on lot, marked up 10k over sticker.
@@attackroflchopter4403 Yeah, probably in two or more years. Just like the new F-150 that has a base battery of only 200 miles per charge and a $40,000 starting MSRP. They're show pony vehicles to meet California eco standards. There is a severe battery and lithium element shortage that won't be solved soon.
The more i watch this the more i want this Prime, thanks for the video!
Unfortunately, we are going to have a very long wait because of the limited number of vehicles that they will be sending to the United States and just about everywhere else. 🤦♂️
Most places this is a VERY limited model. The U.S. allotment is sold out.
I'm sitting here wishing this came in the Highlander 😩
Me too
It's way too popular and functional for them to ever make a lot of them. Expect it to be discontinued and replaced with something awful soon.
17:35 it’s 89 miles per gallon. You’re welcome.
That's really good for a midsize SUV. Also 71miles minus 30 EV uphill so 41 divided by .8gals is 51mpg mostly down. They would have had over 100 E-mpg if started full battery and used ev-auto. Because that would turn on gas during harder working times because it's actually more efficient than accelerate on gas. Then the car would be in EV way more miles.
Wow! I’ll be lucky to get 29 mpg in my car🥴
almost unbelievable I could never get anywhere near this on my Lambretta in the 60s
Haha I get 25 in my kia sportage..... keep kinda feels bad....like.... reconsidering life choices bad.....who am I? What am I? Is this even real?...... Light creates darkness, it never asked to be...... 11100101010010101010001101010111010101
@@ralanham76 its compact not midsize. Midsize is a highlander. Full size is a sequoia.
Plug-in hybrids it's the way to go.............EV range enough for daily use...and the ICE for the long trips.
I wish another manufacturer would take the idea of an i3, but with a larger battery pack and slightly larger fuel tank. Maybe 200 miles of EV range + 150 miles of gas range, all wrapped up in something the size of a 3 series
If you plan to operate it on EV mode most of the time, the gasoline-powered engine system will degrade over time. Gasoline is volatile and will absorb moisture, so if it is bot depleted on a regular basis, it gets stale. Have you tried to start up a lawnmower that has been sitting in a shed for a long time?
@@korswe That's not how that works. The i3 and Volt both force a maintenance cycle that runs the motor to burn off gas, and then require you to refill with some fresh gas afterwards.
Andrew Holst. Good point. However, running some sort of a maintenance program to burn off stale or would-be-stale gasoline wouldn’t run long enough for the ICE to get hot enough to keep the valves. I know it’s a four banger with both port and direct injection, but you still need to run the engine hot for a long period of time. I’ve serviced many engines before. Customers with lots of city driving tend to more issues with everything than freeway drivers.
@@korswe you're forgetting two things...with an hybrid, you could go on long road trips and refresh the gas...an hybrid even with a degraded battery pack, still moves around.
I’m going to trade my Tesla for one of these. Hello reliability and ease of service, goodbye range anxiety in winter and shitty customer service.
True Tesla quality owner discovered.
Good luck getting one before 2022
I can't put my hard earned money on Tesla for these reasons... yet 😆
Agree
Toyota’s service is easier than Tesla’s?
Toyota: Makes something desirable
Also Toyota: Doesn’t produce enough to meet demand
I hate when companies do this. It's called artificial scarcity, I believe, and it's such a punch in the gut to consumers.
Can you give them a minute?
@@WirableCrown1 Punch in the gut? Nothing says you have to buy it! Besides I wouldn't blame them on this one, the Prius Prime didn't have that good of a reception but it only offered about 20 miles. Plus it isn't a Rav4. People wonder why the Prius' sales are going down it's because it's ugly and Toyota started hybridising (is that a word?) the Camry and others.
I just drove my 2013 Chevy Volt 175 miles from Mapleton, Ut to Bear Lake Ut thru Wyoming over mountains. There and home again I averaged 52 mpg. 80 of those miles were 100% electric (40 each way). No range anxiety. Normal weeks we rarely if ever use gasoline.
Finally! A hybrid that I won't get bullied for driving, and when someone does bully me for driving a hybrid, I'll zoom outta there in 5.7 seconds.
😂😂👍, It Zoom even do it not a zoom-zoom Mazda
Whenever I see a prius in front of me, I bullyingly go around and in front of it. It's the bane to my driving existance.
@@blackflag486 Anymore buddy!!
Ive surprised quite a few folks with my Gen 2 2018 Volt, has nearly 300 ft/lbs and it will overtake cars before they ever have a chance to respond.
@@blackflag486 Your ego amuses me.
You can log some incredible MPG on these PHEV's for sure. I can easily get 150mpg in my Honda Clarity PHEV when I'm commuting back and forth to work and don't completely drain the battery.
Wow impressive
Yo what the heck that's stupidly insane lol
Hybrid cars have one thing in common with diesels, you have to drive it enough miles to make it worth the investment.
Hahaha, another person referring to a car as an investment. Its not a FORD GT. You will lose money when you buy a car.
Bill Bunt $7,500 federal tax credit helps even out those numbers.
Electricity rates are much more stable than gasoline
I heard that a lot when we bought our 2002 Prius. 200K miles later it has way more than paid for the difference (almost $5000 in those days.) It has consumed roughly 4000 gallons at an average price around $2.50 per gallon, or $10,000 in gasoline. If it were not a hybrid it would be hard pressed to do better than 25 mpg, being mostly in-town miles. At 25 mpg it would have consumed about $20,000 in gasoline.
Saving $10,000 on a $20,000 car not good enough? Besides consumables: tires, wiper blades, 12V batteries (three of them) and a windshield, all it has needed beyond routine maintenance was a $150 inverter coolant pump I spent a couple hours replacing. I never had a car that had cost less than $500 per year, doing my own work.
@@flagmichael The resale value, i imagine is a lot hire. my point is you will lose money, but you can lose a lot less of it.
@@nerdlywehunt I wish petrol was 2 bucks per here, we get humped with gas tax here in CA that puts us over 3 per gallon, and that tax will keep rising. I wanted a bigger, higher car that would be better to take camping. I bought the Prime because of the fuel mileage, but also because of the performance.
I'm not a fan of the current Toyota tail light design. Why do the brake lights only illuminate a small edge of the whole tail light?
@@AD-sp5cv That is one thing that continues to bug me about Toyota. I understand how using the minimum of X per vehicle saves on production cost and complexity but when it comes to things like tail/brake lighting that is not something you should skip on. Now I am not sure if it has changed for the Camry by now but I still remember how they had used 4 tiny little lights in the 3rd brake cluster for what seems like generations and I always thought that looked cheap and risky even especially when cheaper brands/cars used 6 or more elements or an LED strip with more brightness.
@myofficegoes65 I guess you haven't been paying attention that several manufacturers are going to smaller lighting. It's a modern look and it does the job.
@Fire Heart But a single stripe of led is way more visible than a small dot of led.
myofficegoes65 - That one thing that always bothered about Toyota vehicles. They have a big tail lights, but when the lights are lit is just a very small portion of all that acrylic that gets brightened. Some turn light signal on the Avalon is almost impossible to notice, especially during the day. That's one thing that I don't like about Toyota cars. For me is compromise of safety.
It’s illegal to have lights including break lights on a moving part of a vehicle (trunk that opens, door, hood etc.) that’s why they are not functional. Just for a looks
My Toyota RAV4 prime XSE is amazing. I was able to get 50 miles of all electric range. Thumbs up, Toyota.
Per gallon or range?
@@davidcobarruvias4185 That would be range on electric.
Absolutely incredible. I used to wonder what the point of phev vehicles was but realizing that you can make your daily commute without using any fuel is so cool. And having the flexibility to go on long road trips without the hassle of long charge stops is the real seller. There’s absolutely zero reason to buy all electric when you can have the best of both worlds
Make an FJ Cruiser II version of this...
Extremely thorough and well-explained. Thanks for the informative and interesting video, Tommy. Nice work, TFL.
This video was incredibly well-done. Thanks for the effective and efficient delivery; and for offering exactly the information I would have asked for.
Exactly.
Nice one team... Your show has a Big following in New Zealand...
We love Kiwis! What a beautiful place and great people.
@@TFLcar let me know if you ever decide tocome this side. Sadly have to wait once boarders open
Guys, this is NOT a compliance car. Like the hybrid in 2016, Toyota cant ramp production up fast enough given component supply. It will catch up in 2021.
Your MPG needs to calculate the cost of recharging the battery, no?
Or just the energy use. The way they did it doesn’t make sense, because the car runs on more than just gas. If you drive 20 miles in a plug-in hybrid that goes 30 miles on a charge, you didn’t just get infinity/undefined MPG. The spirit of MPG in this context is fuel economy, and it most certainly used some fuel (even if it was just electricity from the battery).
why? Toyota Hybrids are self-charging through braking and coasting.
@@markhoffman9655 its a plug in hybrid so you need to charge it as well
@@Bolero6879 You dont have to. If you dont it will operate as a hybrid.
Wish you tested it in Auto EV/HV mode, as I think that’s how most will use it when they know they are going beyond the electric range
It might not make much difference. I have a Prius Prime, and if the battery is charged and the engine is cold, EV auto mode is almost identical to EV mode.
To complete the energy consumption figures you also need to charge the car to the level before the trip and add that energy(or its cost) to the gas consumption to give a total cost in cents per mile.
Exactly right, Dude. You nailed it. I did a rough calculation for my area. Electricity per killowatt hour costs .13 cents. If the battery is an 18 killowatt hour battery, it costs $2.34 to charge it from zero to full. He drove 71 miles using one gallon of gas. If you add on the $2.00 for electricity, the savings are practically nothing.
Nick V BUT if you have free charging at work or where you shop it helps the bottom line. Many free level 2 charging points around! Probably not worth going out of your way to charge though.
InternetDude Thanks to the VW diesel emissions lawsuit there are free level 2 chargers in the parking lot of my employment.
@@InternetDude Free charging or not, this friggin car costs $20K more than the regular Rav4. Don't you think that should be factored in here? If your buying the Prime to save money, you've made a huge mistake.
Nick V I don’t care overly about the cost, it’s the principle.
I would be interested to know how the end result is effected by adding in the cost of electric used to top up the battery back to the same level as the start as this is also a fuel used to transport the vehicle over this test. I was the owner of a PHEV and it was so annoying when the cost of charging the battery was never mentioned or included in running costs as it gives a false m.p.g. to prospective buyers. The cost should be converted to amount of fuel it be and added to the fuel used and the combined figure to give a True m.p.g.
Just picked up mine. 2 month wait. No dealer markup. Next year I’ll refill. By the way, the batteries last longer at city speeds vs freeway. And with half the battery gone, it takes only 5 hours on 110v to recharge. Lovin’ it….
Finally! An EV option that actually fits my lifestyle that causes no range anxiety. Good job Toyota and Tommy.
Great review, Tommy is getting so good at reviewing vehicles!
Thanks! -Tommy
"Most interesting and Best Toyota sold today..." good luck finding one. The few that will trickle into California dealerships will go for full MSRP + Dealer addons.
Too bad Toyota doesn’t make a pure EV like they made 22 years ago
I was offered one with a $5000 markup over MSRP. The dealership has been allocated just one for the rest of this year.
@@shadowdance4666 too bad you won't shut up
Buy a full electric for local runs and use your gas car for cross country trips.
I use to own a prius. Don't combine two expensive headaches
18:00 the RAV4 hybrid does not start at 38k, according to Toyota’s website , the base hybrid model starts at little over 28K
Hey TFL, you are NOT supposed to top off!! All manufacturers expressly tell you not too. Gasoline needs room to expand as temps vary. This will have a negative effect on your vehicle’s emissions systems and can also be dangerous.
smart one The only car you can top-off is the 1994 Toyota Celica. For some unknown reason, that year Toyota knew people would be overfilling that car and always trying to “top-off”.
Its ok. Its not like they're doing any real damage for testing purpose.
CACressida
It sets a bad example for others, I did something similar until I did some research into it.
Gas expands, so you should never top off in the summer. It is OK in the winter or when it is cool
@@smrtguy77777 gas expands and it goes into the evap system. The worst that could happen is you can possibly damage the evap. A huge majority People everyday top off their cars, its not like tanks are blowing up. Its not a big deal so quit making it one.
15:31 This a channel called "The FAST Lane Car" but you didn't test Sport Mode. What kind of review is that?
Curious about the AWD performance in snow and responsiveness in general. I am really surprised what my 2017 RAV4 can do, that wheel lock mode has come in handy a bunch of times.
As a first-gen 2016 RAV4 Hybrid Limited owner (the first sold in my geographic area, I'm proud to say), I WANT THIS CAR.
How many more videos do you guys have of the rav4 prime!!!! I'm hoping there is an offroad test coming up😁
You can check Driving Sport TV. there is a off road test of the RAV4 Prime XSE .
@@superlight47 thanks! I was asking these guys too since they seem to be releasing their rav4 prime slowly lol
Good or bad... you can't get one, so keep dreaming.
@@dan_hitchman007 🤣🤣🤣 yeah prob until 2022.
@@iamnid I saw the driving sport TV video the other guy recommended and seems good for light offroading, except that it needs better tires
Love our Rav4 Prime. When it's convenient to charge you charge and save in gas. If charging isn't convenient you run on gas while charging the battery. Our battery was at zero miles. We drove to church on gas and drove home on electric. Beyond that it's a fun car to drive.
If only Toyota gave us more variety of models of cars in South Africa .... Anyway, great video !
Instead they provide the Etios and shit like that. But also cars like the Camry and Avalon and Verso never sold well in SA and never will. People will rather by a C Class or 3 series than pay so much for those cars. And minivans just don't sell either so the Sienna will be useless too. The only other thing they could bring is the Tacoma or Tundra and maybe the Venza. Everything else actually won't do well here.
If you drive a nice Mercedes or BMW , you'll get rob/kill for it in SA.
Too bad Toyota doesn’t make a pure EV like they made 22 years ago
@@johnsmith-gt3po Where are you from? Because the C Class and 3 series are literally everywhere. The criminals take more Toyota Fortuners, Hilux and VW Polo's than C classes and 3 series.
@@shadowdance4666 For a limited time, Toyota patnered with Tesla to mal a 100% electric Rav 4.
One thing that is difficult to quantify about a hybrid or PHEV is how quiet they are in city driving. When I'm in stop-and-go traffic during rush hour with my Avalon Hybrid or even the Ford Fusion hybrid I rented on a trip, the silence that comes from a car running on electricity rather than a gas engine helps ease my anxiety. I am glad that Toyota made a PHEV version of the RAV4 because a platform like that has plenty of room to hide a large battery while still leaving room for a decent amount of cargo.
The RAV4 Prime is great. Too bad they are only selling 5,000 in the U.S. - and only in ZEV states :(
I was blessed to secure one in Oregon
I will need to fly from Utah to pickup my Rav 4 SE in metallic silver.
damn i did not know that
Only 5k. Thats literally nothing when the rav4 sells 100s of thousands a year. I wonder where electric cars will be when they cant get the materials anymore
Charge hold works very well and charges the battery faster then with the 6.6KW charger. When you drive longer distances you can fully charge your battery on the highway and use EV when entering the city. I never use the cable to charge and never have waiting time to charge. That was the main reason I decided for the Prime. Unfortunately, this feature is never highlighted in any test.
So when will we see the Tundra Prime? Great video Tommy. I’m excited to see what Toyota has up its sleeve.
Or even the Tacoma
give me a Tacoma prime or a tundra prime and take my money.
Q4 2021 for thé new tundra
Lol "this is like a supercar from 30 years ago" - tfl
When their solid state batteries are ready. We,ll see those.
My question is, how do you handle maintenance on the engine? If you drive a lot via EV mode then do you still need to do an oil change every 10K miles? Theoretically you should have less miles on the engine right? So how does that maintenance work?
That is a fair question. As an automotive technician, I can answer yo simply follow the maintenance schedule on the time frame for the oil change. Basically pretend the vehicle is sitting and simply change it once a Year.
This dude epitomizes Colorado, lol
He epitomizes what Colorado has become. Not what it once was. I'm ok with that.
Yeah, he does seem pretty level headed.
I heard colorado is racist though.
My wife just bought a rav 4 hybrid in February. It's a great car and she loves it but when I saw the numbers on the prime, I wish we'd waited!
It's great Mpg but costs a lot more. Will you make the money on it back compared to the regular hybrid?
@@UnseenSpirit With available tax credits, it actually could cost about the same.
@@matao87 oh that's cool then. I'm not sure if the prime is even in the UK or about any credits. I'll Google it now lol
If you didn't pounce the minute they were made available, you would not have one anyway.
Cool video, lots of good information.
The charge battery button can be handy if you're going to be taking a interstate drive and then doing some city driving after that. You could leave with a full charge press that button and the car I believe will maintain battery charge and run mostly in a hybrid and gasoline mode. If you're going to be running down the interstate for 200 miles you're going to be running the gasoline engine anyway. So in certain circumstances that could be an efficient way to then drive on all electric at your destination city.
I see what you are saying and get it that recharge mode is best for those that run 70+ mph and darting in and out of traffic and simply trying to get where you need to go in a hurry and or travel and keeping up with faster traffic but once you hit traffic jam and or stop and go traffic well you are set with a ev mode or even if it is a fast pace traffic area and then you get to a slower part of a highway like 60-70 for a good stretch that you can go into ev mode
The only problem we have with our Prime is that we use so little gas I have to worry about it going bad.
This car still amazes me, it's almost a no compromise in my opinion, it's quick, has amazing mpg, has AWD, unlike the escape, can sit 4 or 5 comfortably, this is amazing to me in an SUV
Thanks a lot. I am considering getting one of this so your info is helpful. 1. It's a Toyota, which means reliability and very little trouble maintainance wise. 2. An EV. 3. A gas car. 4. A hybrid. 5. A daily commuter. 6. An SUV, near mid-sized. 7. A quiet place, even when driving. 8. Eco friendly.
I wish people would stop saying, “when the battery dies,” when they mean “runs out of EV range.” The battery doesn’t die, it hits a buffer zone that forces gasoline to be used until charging is convenient and keeps the battery in a healthy state of charge.
Does the Petrol Engine actually drive the wheels or does it charge the Batteries that drives the wheels ?
Does the a/c work like the Prius where it runs off the battery?
But seriously, Toyota heavily underestimated the demand for this car.
They didn’t underestimate anything. Common sense would tell them they could easily sell 10X the 5,000 they allocated to the US. They are not new to car manufacturing and sales.
They just didn’t want to sell many for some reason. Either because it a compliance vehicle being produced at a loss and they want to only sell the minimum possible or else because they are just using it as an experiment and don’t want to risk technical/mechanical issues dragging down their average reliability ratings if it was sold in mass quantities.
@@webcomment8895 lmfao!!!
@@webcomment8895 lmao..
@@webcomment8895 you are Karen if you think Hybrids aren't reliable.
17:42 question: that’s only during the first galling of the tank right? The rest is the gallons in the tank will be ~40 mpg??
Pretty amazing numbers for an SUV with no range anxiety!
I actually get 53 miles on my prime SE. It’s amazing!
Interesting to know how much gasoline accompanying Discovery used for the trip
Toyota/lexus will continue to dominate the auto maker market. Despite what the haters say
13:26 should've compared with other hybrids on braking/re-gen.
Hey, Papa, your son, Tommy, has definitely arrived. Impressive! Yes, and the RAV 4 Prome is great, too.
I like much more this kind of tests, more than papers, thanks for the vid.
Question about the batteries and deepish water. I've forded streams as much as a foot and a half deep in my Outback to get to trailheads. If I had a RAV4 Prime, I would want it to be capable of doing that too. At a depth like that, the battery pack on the RAV4 Prime would be at least partially under water for a short time. Would this present a problem?
I don't know the answer but it's a very good question. Now I'm wondering too.
66MPG sounds good but my car was paid for 18 years ago and gets 36 HWY. Insurance is $21/mo. Registration $120.
Glad I found this channel! Your videos are so good!
Vs a golf gti? Do I hear a showdown at IMMI?
So once you use up the prime battery there's a separate hybrid battery still under the back seat? Where is the large battery?
*Rav4 prime TOWING test!* 😍
10lb
2500 lbs according to Toyota! This thing is perfect for me.
Yes please!!!!
Electrical cars have phenomenonal torque plus CVT no gearbox . So electromagnetic power convertion no clutches. These cars are truly high tech .
I drive a Pacifica PHEV, and I love it. This video shows what I really love about PHEV's. Any time you let off the throttle or gently press the brake, the vehicle is using the electric motor as a generator and pumping energy into your battery. FREE FUEL!!!!!!! I've driven without plugging in before and even without any charge in the battery, on a 100 mile round trip to L.A. it drove 30% on battery and averaged 31mpg. So in essence it produced free fuel, which it used for 30% of the drive. With gas prices in So. Cal. Averaging over $4.50 a gallon, I'm loving this PHEV. Plus it's saving on brakes and the engine is actually only being used less than 40% of the time while I plug it in, less need for oil changes and maintenance on the ICE engine. Theoretically at 100,000 miles the engine will have only driven about 40,000 miles and almost all of those are highway miles with NONE of them sitting there idling. I would think that PHEV RAV 4 would make an AWESOME Police cruiser.
I have never been to Colorado but this vlog with you and your dad make me appreciate Colorado.
Tommy, excellent review from the standpoint it encompasses the same day to day driving for most of us. We live in a small community and drive very little throughout the week. With the range demonstrated we would be EV all the time and charge on the night of day 3. The Hybrid would kick in on 300 Mile Road trips into the Interior Mountains. Thanks for sharing!
I'm curious how powerful the rear electric motor is. The one on the Prius Prime couldn't even push the car in the slip test.
It is the same thing
@@reyperez3424 it's not the same. The RAV4 Prime has bigger front motors than the Prius Prime. And it has a much bigger rear motor than the AWD Prius (not available as a Prime), which is only around 5hp.
From what I heard it's the same as in the regular Hybrid, about 50+ hp
@@mattv5281
Same thing = don't have the power to push the front wheels, sorry if I hurt your feelings
@@reyperez3424 sorry, I misread the previous comment and didn't see that they were talking about the rear motor specifically. I think I was confused because the Prius Prime doesn't have a rear motor. But yeah, the AWD Prius rear motor is about 5 hp, and I think the RAV4 motor is more like 50-70hp.
The biggest problem is how the traction control is programmed. The Prius is awful because they don't expect you to ever have a wheel off the ground. If one wheel is on ice, it just spins instead of applying the brakes to send power to the other wheel. I think the 5hp rear motor is theoretically strong enough to get the car off the rollers, but the car was just confused by the situation. The RAV4 hybrid is designed for light off-roading, and seems to do well with wheels in the air in the videos I've seen (probably another TFL video).
I saw a PEARL WHITE with the Black TOP....it was beautiful also. I really REALLY want one, but no luck...
So it used .8 gallon of gas but I missed how much did the electricity cst? I missed that part,,,
14.5 X whatever your electricity costs is the price. At my home that would be $1.30.
My question is, what if you never plug it in? What’s the gas mileage then? Seems counter productive if you have to gas it up and plug it in? Double the work for the improved gas mileage? If not, you are hauling dead weight.
True, lots of us only have street parking. Then, how good is it, as a hybrid?
@@billpetersen298 Apparently 2mpg worse than the hybrid version.
you can use the charge mode while going downhill to produce enough charge back in town to avoid hybrid mode. Its still more efficient than running in hybrid mode around town since you can use the engine to help charge the battery optimally instead of using it for stop and go traffic later (if that makes sense)
Wondering if you experienced any gas tank issues like current RAV4 hybrids...
What issues?
Pyroo0 www.greencarreports.com/news/1128456_toyota-rav4-hybrid-fuel-tank-issue-fix-is-coming-soon
89MPG because you run the car mostly on battery, but what MPG will it have if you run it on Auto Ev/HV? or totally on gas?
Rav4 prime TOWING test!
1500 pounds is all its rated for.
@@chrismann1621 2500 pounds, actually, for the Prime. Regular Rav4 hybrid is 1750. Regular gas models are 1500. Adventure option pack on gas models is 3500.
@@dblissmn still stinks. Its just a matter of time when they're able to get the numbers to 3k and up on these. But even with 2500 its not enough to really matter.
Many thanks for a very intelligent kinda test drive
which has provided me with all relevant information
about the RAV4 Prime that I intend to get .
Nice job on the video Tommy...it's a nice car the RAV4..lots of em here in Ontario
Skeptical, they have yet to fix that gas filling issue with the 2019 and 2020 rav4 hybrids. I have the issue, and I can only fill like 10 gallons which totals about 100 - 120 less miles drive on a full tank for me. Then a few days ago, my battery died on less than 10k miles. Looks like they do not understand what the issue is, but from what I read is do not leave on your heat or cold seat on when you turn your car off!
Wow very impressive. 👍. Who needs a Tesla after this test? You have Toyota's reliability and Dealerships all over the country. Its a dream come true.
But you have all the complexity and maintenance of a conventional car. Tesla’s have less than 1/3 of the moving parts of a comparable conventional car.
@@cpovey1 except that your Tesla will be out for maintenance more than the Toyota will ever be
Tommy. You are the Man. The star of TFL. You make the best videos.
The mpg number is bogus because it drove mostly on the battery charge for that short drive. The electric portion threw off the average because it was over represented and not counted towards fuel use costs.
By this standard, if you only drove only 30 miles, the mpg would be infinity?
If you drove on a 400 mile road trip and used most of the tank and also counted the use of electricity, the mpg average would have been more valid.
14:25 when your EV range recharged up (from going downhill) to the distance to the office, that would have been a good time to put it back into EV mode.
Love watching these trips and figuring out your route. Office to Longmont to Lyons to Nederland back to your office is my guess.
Pretty close! Office - Longmont - Lyons - Ward - Office
I can see the CHG HOLD button being useful. People with long commutes can spend 30-40 miles on the highway. Rather than slowly drain the battery during the high speed/mpg highway driving, charge it up for once you get off the highway.
I'd imagine it's more of a charge HOLD over an active recharge function. Otherwise the MPG figure would plummet. Mitsubishi offers a mode for active recharging in the Outlander PHEV, the MPG will fall into the mid 20s.
I’m saving up for one of these in 2021. I really hope they still have some by then. Seems like they aren’t making many
You should see if they have a waiting list and get on it. Make a deal up front with a refundable deposit. My dealer was selling them at sticker with a waiting list from a year ago, took 10 months to get the car.
Can you try use the auto mode next time on the same trip
The prime is the best RAV4 you can buy. It's faster and cheaper to operate than the more conventional alternative. Unfortunately Toyota badly underestimated the vehicle and is only going to produce 5000 of them per year. They will be relegated to compliance status and available only in states like California.
CMG30 They do that because not all shops have the equipment or people to service these hybrids yet. Another year or two and the whole USA will get them like the Prius. = May also have some issues servicing these outside of California the first few years. =Bit it’s a Toyota and quality is among the best. If you can find one, I feel it is definitely worth a buy and probably the best car/suv you have ever purchased. People that own the Prius will be buying these for the extra room and functionality.
I don't think it was completely due to underestimating demand; I suspect it was an issue of being able to source enough battery modules to actually produce the vehicles. I guess they figured it was better to deliver _something_ in 2021 and get the old hype train going than wait for another model year.
Did you say Boulder Colorado thats where the show south park is based on man i wanna go visit that place.
Loved this video. Thank you. Am going to buy one but will wait a year or so until the kinks are worked out before I spend the big bucks. Bought a ‘97 then a ‘10 V6 , then a ‘16 Hybrid. You know I am going to need a plugin.
Hello from France,
I have a 2020 outlander phev and the CHARGE mode is much more important as you mean.
If your travel is more than EV autonomy :
As a reminder rule number one is to arrive with the battery empty to consume less fuel.
The HYBRID mode like SAVE mode alternates between EV mode and CHARGE mode only depending on battery level and your current speed.
The car does not know what kind of road you are doing next 5, 10 or 15 miles etc... to finish your travel, you know that, city, road or highway.
And it's more fuel efficient to used CHARGE mode on long flat road with stabilized speed or long downhill.
When the fuel motor don't need big traction and charge the battery at the same time.
Switch on EV mode at low speed, stop and start in the city, on uphill and when you increase speed, everywhere the fuel motor is less efficient.
I drive only on EV Mode or CHARGE mode almost never in HYBRID mode or SAVE mode.
With this method we consume less fuel and the bonus is you never hear the engine scream with the CVT gearbox.
I mean the outlander is a better phev while he had adjustable regenerating pedals on the steering wheel.
More you have to use the regenerating brakes that's mean you have spend too much energy before, freewheel is the most efficient way to driving an EV.
Sorry for my bad translation.
And thank you for your distracted videos.
Tommy, very good video and description of the RAV4 Prime. I think that the gas mileage should be based on the miles driven using the gas engine. Also you should calculate the cost to recharge the batteries. that would be the total cost of the trip. Also include the time to charge the batteries. TFL has done comparisons like that in the past. I get that you had limited time for the test. I think that would be a fairer comparison. When testing hybrids or electric vehicles TFL should set up a standard test for the best comparison. We rely on you guys to give us the best fair comparisons as well as being fun to watch. You guys do a great job! thanks again for a great video!
And better MPG range, acceleration, price, than Volkswagen ID4. This car will be selling really good, they just need to increase the production numbers.
Great video, a lot of information!
I’ve driven fairly fast SUV like turbos X5, and they can be fun around city traffic lights.. but this thing looks even faster without all the huge gas costs! I’m getting it.. if I can find one !
5:15 this is nothing like a Tesla's autopilot. It only gives you a nudge back, it doesn't complete the entire turn for you like Tesla's.
Pretty dangerous comparison you're making, majority of people are gonna believe your statement and be disappointed.
I think he made it clear that it doesn't have the same auto pilot as a Tesla.
How uncomfortable are the seats? Do you have to plug it in every night? Will the gas take over if the battery is dead? So you have an extension cord in your driveway to charge the battery unless you park in the garage? Sounds like a pain.
Pretty impressive! But how much would be MPG if you don’t plug it in before. Let say if you go on vacation and when you back to home, don’t have place to plug in. 🤔
Toyota hybrids are self charging from coasting and braking ... I still average over 28km/litre (65 mpg) from a flat battery on my Toyota Aqua 2013.
@@markhoffman9655 is your car plug in?
It gets 40 mpg and on a 14.5 gallon tank. It goes 600 miles depending on the driver. When the ev battery is depleted
Since electricity isn't free how much to fully charge the battery if totally discharged? Does the car come with the charging cable?
Absolutely love this vehicle. It is our favorite current Toyota too.
I think the coolest part of the Prime models is you have options. Tons of city driving? Electric mode. Long highway commute? EV Auto mode.