i enjoy winding my watches each morning past many years. Took me about 40 mins to resuscitate them . Only rcentlyi bought one from MBS for my perpetual calender . Now i placed both the annual calender and the perpetual thus i need not worry when i am on long holidays. Thanks for your advise in this subject.
Setting the time, feeling the crown's feedback, being able to observe the exterior of the watches when feeling out the watches movement... i actually enjoy the process much more than a watch winder... especially when most of my watches are over 10 years old.
@@sn00ze88 I appreciate that aspect aswell. Though there are days where it can be abit of a hassle especially if you have a complication like an annual calendar etc. But if your collection is a small one, you can make do without one.
@@WatchYourFront_hopefully I still appreciate manually setting my watches whenever the collection grows 😂. Let's pray together I have the moolah to grow the collection 🙏 😂
@@WatchYourFront_ using them will cause wear and tear sooner. for info of all, i have placed a comprehensive reply below for everyones convenience. pasting below an excerpt from archer, one of the most trusted watchmakers on the watchuseek and omega forums. "A winder is a convenience that does nothing to aid the movement or the placement of lubricants (they are held in place by capillary action in the jewels). Compared to letting the watch run down and stop when you are not wearing it, yes the winder will cause wear and the need for service sooner. Cheers, Al" basically, it will be similar to leaving your car idling when parked in the garage instead of shutting the engine down. a lot of people justify winders as a means to make sure lubricants do not dry out.... but as archer states, running a watch around the clock does not contribute anyway to prolonging the life of lubricants. in fact, he has another excerpt that states that the lifespan of a lubricant is independent of the running hours of the watch. I have pasted the excerpt below: "If the watches are actually stopped for X% of the time, then yes the service interval can be extended. However it's not a completely linear relationship, because eventually oils will break down (yes even modern synthetic oils) regardless if the watch is running or not. So if the normal service interval is 5 years, and you wear the watch 33% of the time, the service interval does not now become 15 years. The oils will dry out long before that." in summary.... there are two aspects that affect service intervals.... lubes/oils and metal parts - lubes will dry out and will need eventual replacing... REGARDLESS IF THE WATCH IS RUNNING OR NOT - it is parts within the movement that have a direct relationship on running hours of the movement..... the more running hours, the more wear and tear, the shorter the intervals between service and in my opinion. the only time a watch should be accruing running hours is on your wrist, being enjoyed..... not in some box for context, I used to be the collector who invested approx. 3000 USD on winders. Now they simply just serve as fancy watch boxes. and i noticed using a timegrapher that the health of my movements stayed better much longer after i stopped using winders.
exactly due to what you mentioned.... excess wear and tear i believe the only time a watch should be accruing running hours is on ones wrist, being enjoyed..... not in some rotating box accumulating unnecessary running hours some people claim that winders help "circulate" the oils within the movement I have pasted below an excerpt clarifying this myth from archer, one of the most trusted watchmakers on the watchuseek and omega forums: "A winder is a convenience that does nothing to aid the movement or the placement of lubricants (they are held in place by capillary action in the jewels). Compared to letting the watch run down and stop when you are not wearing it, yes the winder will cause wear and the need for service sooner."
@@carlomiguelsy1595 to each his own. I do appreciate the part where you bond with your watches when you wind them and wear it out. For a small collection you probably don't need a winder. But a collection of 10 or more watches, a watch winder might come in handy.
Yes definitely. Each person has the right to do what they want to set up their watches But definitely what i cannot agree with is using it to keep your watches in “tiptop shape”
i enjoy winding my watches each morning past many years. Took me about 40 mins to resuscitate them . Only rcentlyi bought one from MBS for my perpetual calender . Now i placed both the annual calender and the perpetual thus i need not worry when i am on long holidays. Thanks for your advise in this subject.
@@adriakmelani for your case, a watch winder is definitely a worthy investment. But just keep in mind the things I mention when you use one. Cheers!
Setting the time, feeling the crown's feedback, being able to observe the exterior of the watches when feeling out the watches movement... i actually enjoy the process much more than a watch winder... especially when most of my watches are over 10 years old.
@@sn00ze88 I appreciate that aspect aswell. Though there are days where it can be abit of a hassle especially if you have a complication like an annual calendar etc. But if your collection is a small one, you can make do without one.
@@WatchYourFront_hopefully I still appreciate manually setting my watches whenever the collection grows 😂. Let's pray together I have the moolah to grow the collection 🙏 😂
@@sn00ze88 you know who's code to use if that becomes a problem 😂
All you need to know….. dont use them
@@carlomiguelsy1595 whats your reason for not using them?
@@WatchYourFront_
using them will cause wear and tear sooner. for info of all, i have placed a comprehensive reply below for everyones convenience.
pasting below an excerpt from archer, one of the most trusted watchmakers on the watchuseek and omega forums.
"A winder is a convenience that does nothing to aid the movement or the placement of lubricants (they are held in place by capillary action in the jewels). Compared to letting the watch run down and stop when you are not wearing it, yes the winder will cause wear and the need for service sooner.
Cheers, Al"
basically, it will be similar to leaving your car idling when parked in the garage instead of shutting the engine down.
a lot of people justify winders as a means to make sure lubricants do not dry out.... but as archer states, running a watch around the clock does not contribute anyway to prolonging the life of lubricants. in fact, he has another excerpt that states that the lifespan of a lubricant is independent of the running hours of the watch. I have pasted the excerpt below:
"If the watches are actually stopped for X% of the time, then yes the service interval can be extended. However it's not a completely linear relationship, because eventually oils will break down (yes even modern synthetic oils) regardless if the watch is running or not. So if the normal service interval is 5 years, and you wear the watch 33% of the time, the service interval does not now become 15 years. The oils will dry out long before that."
in summary.... there are two aspects that affect service intervals.... lubes/oils and metal parts
- lubes will dry out and will need eventual replacing... REGARDLESS IF THE WATCH IS RUNNING OR NOT
- it is parts within the movement that have a direct relationship on running hours of the movement..... the more running hours, the more wear and tear, the shorter the intervals between service
and in my opinion. the only time a watch should be accruing running hours is on your wrist, being enjoyed..... not in some box
for context, I used to be the collector who invested approx. 3000 USD on winders. Now they simply just serve as fancy watch boxes. and i noticed using a timegrapher that the health of my movements stayed better much longer after i stopped using winders.
exactly due to what you mentioned.... excess wear and tear
i believe the only time a watch should be accruing running hours is on ones wrist, being enjoyed..... not in some rotating box accumulating unnecessary running hours
some people claim that winders help "circulate" the oils within the movement
I have pasted below an excerpt clarifying this myth from archer, one of the most trusted watchmakers on the watchuseek and omega forums:
"A winder is a convenience that does nothing to aid the movement or the placement of lubricants (they are held in place by capillary action in the jewels). Compared to letting the watch run down and stop when you are not wearing it, yes the winder will cause wear and the need for service sooner."
@@carlomiguelsy1595 to each his own. I do appreciate the part where you bond with your watches when you wind them and wear it out. For a small collection you probably don't need a winder. But a collection of 10 or more watches, a watch winder might come in handy.
Yes definitely. Each person has the right to do what they want to set up their watches
But definitely what i cannot agree with is using it to keep your watches in “tiptop shape”