Great job ! My life story in fact, I had Islanders season tickets in 91-93. I split them with a roller hockey coach in College Point, Queens who asked me to. I signed the petition against the logo change (8:30) sitting somewhere in the 300 level seats at Nassau Coliseum, after sitting in the last row of MSG's blue seats for Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinals in 1994 wearing a New York Islanders original logo starter jacket. Thank you for including video of the roller blading players (4:20), the historical accuaracy of this video, the next stop for those kids on skates at this time was usually a Sega Gensis / Super Nintendo console that offered 4-way play on NHL 94. True hockey Nirvana, if you were 19 years old like I was. The most loyal of New York Islanders fans sat in section 329 at the Nassau Coliseum for home games. A lot of those guys are from Staten Island. Post dynasty, a good number of New York Islanders fans came from the surrounding areas of Queens, the boros, etc. simply because they did not want to root for the Rangers, or admired the great players and teams of the New York Islanders dynasty. Thank you for a great video, and keep in mind (Rangers Fans) the New York Islanders were at one time the greatest franchise in pro sports, and the envy of the sports world. The last North American sports franchise to win 4 consecutive championships.
@@sideline.archivedon’t sweat it. Just wanted to bring it to your attention as nicely as possible and avoid the usual internet reactions when someone makes an honest mistake.
I actually really appreciate it. I’m never going to get every piece of info 100% right in a 12 minute video. And it lets us share and discuss this thing instead of me being all “IM RIGHT!” Or you saying “YOURE WRONG!” Quite rare to find on the internet - so I do appreciate it brother.
Back in the day, I thought this logo and uniforms were dope. It was a bold re-imagining. NHL fans are notorious for gatekeeping and tradition though, so I can see why fans hated it
Nah, the late 90's had some absolutely brutally bad uniform changes. Anyone with any understanding of graphic design will tell how awful most of the changes were. Uniforms traditionally tried to say a lot with very little, then all of a sudden it's like owners hired their 7 year old grandkids to design uniforms. Tacky.
Islander fan here. The logo is still very much polarizing but most have come around to it. The real problem with the uniform is that it completely erased the look of an already historic team from only a decade previous. Had this look been released as an alternate uniform and under more a more prosperous product on the ice at the time, this uniform would t have been so hated. For me personally, I was a kid in the 90’s, I remember people weren’t thrilled. Now, most of the fans in their 30’s and 40’s (and younger) grew to appreciate it and wear it like a badge of honor of sorts. It’s retro, it’s hip, it’s collectible, and it’s part of the history. I love it now, but not more than our original logo.
It's a disgusting pos logo and should be banished to the dustbin of history. How anyone can view that logo today and not be disgusted by it is beyond me.
The Turn Ahead the Clock night. I actually mention it in next week's video. But I think you're right - I'll add a full breakdown to the list. Hit that sub!
Rebrands are tough. The problem is that rebrands are lead by marketing experts who are rarely fans of the game or the team and think of a sports logo purely as a marketing tool, like any other product to be sold. They rarely understand that a sport's team is part of the fans ' cultural heritage. You can't treat it like Starbucks or Home Depot.
True - but the guy who redesigned this logo had done other successful hockey logos in the past - the San Jose Sharks if I remember correctly. I guess he just completely whiffed.
@@sideline.archive HAHA! Of course you would! The actual original reveal featuring Darius kasparaitis, the waves along the body weren't present. When the season started the waves were added, check out the reveal and the eventual game pics, theyre actually vastly different. The reverse retro is actually based off the reveal jerseys.
Hey man. First video ive seen from your channel. Interesting topic to talk about. Noticed you also go out of your way to repond to comments. Thats great engagement with your fan base. Hope your channel continues to grow man 😊👍
@@jakebernard9922 appreciate the kind words brother. Thanks for watching! If vintage sportswear floats your boat then I’ve got two other vids up, or come join us on instagram! @sideline.archive
There's been soo many worse logos, the angry islander was really average to above average all things considered. See avs, ducks, blue jackets, hurricanes for reference point.
The logo itself was great then and is great now. I wouldn't go as far as saying it was ahead of its time, but it's certainly more timeless than it gets credit for. The jerseys themselves were almost adsurdly 90s, but I love them for that. And I'm sorry, the "classic" NY/LI logo is pretty damn uninspired. It's only classic cause they won't let it die. Great video btw, keep up the good work!
Appreciate you dropping in brother! I also love this logo, wish they would incorporate the lighthouse patch somehow. Even if the jerseys weren’t well received - the Fisherman merch HIT.
The black V jersey is a guilty pleasure of mine. I doubt we'll ever see that again: even with the weird jerseys the 90's gave us, no team ever went as far and experimental in their redesign as the '78 Canucks
It’s odd to see a jersey with no prominent front logo. And I love that they retained elements of the V for the flying skate. The only wilder hockey jerseys are in the IHL imo - like the Detroit Vipers. But that’s a different kettle of fish entirely. The V is a hockey classic.
I for one like the logo and whenever I’m clowned about it, I come back with, “C’mon…you know you want fish sticks now”. I always get a laugh from that and they walk away happy.
If I hadn’t grown up near Pittsburgh and was a Penguins fan, I might have been a Islanders fan. Love the scrappy, small market vibe, and the fans are great! 👍🏼
The Islanders' AHL minor league affiliate, the Bridgeport Islanders, are using the Fisherman logo this season (2024-25). He's all over the website. There's even a huge painting on the side of their arena of the Fisherman.
The dynasty was over for a long time before they released the Fisherman logo! Also, Gretzky was still in Los Angeles in 1994, but I do miss saying 1940!
I was in New York for the playoffs this year and I really thought it was going to be the Rangers year. Trouchek and Kreider were playing out of their minds!
@@sideline.archive I grew up a Devils fan and was more than happy to see my team knock the Rangers off in 2022, but that Stéphane Matteau goal in overtime in 1994 still is hard to watch.
In 1994, the Devils, despite being a championship caliber team were still struggling to connect with their fan base. They were third in the market behind the Islanders even while being in the conference final in 1994 and and winning the cup in 1995. They were actually planning a move to Nashville while winning that cup. Imagine going through all four rounds of the playoffs and not even trying to sell season plans for the following year. Fortunately for Devils fans the move fell through. And of course the Devils were run in a super traditional top down way by Lou Lamerillo, who was not just in charge of hockey ops, he was in charge of everything from the hot dogs to the arena staff, to building the team. And he was also in charge of the almost non existent marketing. But they had a classic logo crest that has remained exactly the same since it debuted in 1982. Of course...where did Lamerillo end up? You guessed it. Long Island. I guess after all this they wanted a proven record of incredible stubbornness in marketing.
Um the Islanders were in the Conference Finals in 1993. And considering the history up to this point, its no wonder the Devils were a distant 3rd in 1994.
I really miss the Devils green and red colour scheme. Do you know why they changed it? It did feel a bit "Christmas" but the green starter jackets they made were incredible.
Not an Islanders fan, but I remember when a friend of mine first showed that to me, and my reaction was “what the hell is that?” I’m also seeing a lot of similarities between the logo and the mascot to the bizzare story of Krusty Krab, the anti-mascot for the San Francisco Giants in the 1980’s (except Krusty Krab was specifically created to be hated. It was an anti-mascot). In both cases, the hate directed at the mascot was more or less cover for a team that was throughly awful, with an frustrated fan base taking their anger out on a mascot because of how much the team sucked.
The idea of the anti-mascot is interesting - particularly with regard to Gritty. Although he has evolved into a new beast entirely. Maybe they were just way ahead of their time!
I understand the issue. However, I started watching hockey in 1995 and always prefered that jersey as there was many modern interesting jerseys throughout the 1990's, as teams tend to return to much classic designs, as the Sens, Pens, Flames and others tend to wear their early 1990's jerseys, which is cool too. Now that I see it back again I understand that the back of the jersey can look horrible to some people with the waves and all that, but for kids outside NY it was fun back then.
My old Pee Wee team from the 70s/80s uses the "Captain Highliner" logo with "Fishermen" where "Islanders" is, they're called the Selkirk Fishermen so it works, still makes me think of that tv ad "Have ya ever been to sea, Billy?"
I remember seeing the Fish Sticks jersey for the first time in that clip during that Rangers series. Wasn't bad enough they were being pummeled in that series, then THAT surprise?!? I boycotted the Islanders for the "Fischler" years ( not that they cared or noticed ). Even when they compromised and put the classic crest on those idiotic wavy lines....NOOOOO. It's no wonder I have no memory of Wendel Clark as an Islander.
@@sideline.archive yeah, that clip, if memory serves, was during one of those blowouts and I remember wanting to slap Bill Clemente with his, "I like those...." quit towing the company line, Bill. They're horrific.
No need to bring Wayne Gretzky into this, he was nowhere near the 1994 Stanley Cup. As a Canucks and Gretzky fan I wouldn't have been as disappointed in Game 7. I didn't riot as I had left Vancouver for a job in Winnipeg during Round 2 but I get it, that was heartbreaking. Mark Messier wasn't very well liked in Vancouver, Wayne had a lot of fans there. Wayne was a Ranger in 1996 after a short stint in St. Louis. Mark Messier, if he wasn't already the most hated man in Vancouver when he became the Canucks Captain in 1997 he certainly was by the time his horrible 4 years of no-playoffs tenure in the city was over. Missing the playoffs during a rebuild is forgivable, it happens to every team, but he took Wayne Maki's #11 to wear himself, Wayne died of brain cancer in 1974 and the Canucks unofficially retired his jersey, that was a sh!tty move, very disrespectful and unprofessional. If you were living in Vancouver during Messier's run as a Canuck you would see quite a few unhappy fans wearing #11 Canuck jerseys with "MAKI" on them instead of "MESSIER", my buddy Rob had one.
7:51 That photo does not look like Dennis Potvin. I don't think he ever wore a visor or a Jofa helmet. The newspaper indicates that it's him, but I think that is an error.
Correct! The “original original” Canadian Satin. Send me the tag and I’ll dig through all the info I have for it. With the traditional Long Island logo? Block color, orange white blue?
@@Elementsoftheory29 but you’re absolutely correct, Ron gave up 16 and was pulled for Jamie McLennan who gave up 6. It was the Islanders as a team who gave up 22.
A logo I love bit thankfully(i guess) didn't live through the tough era it represents. A relatively new Islanders fan of the last 3-4 years I stand by the merchant being class all round.
Pickett, Maloney, Milbury, Spano, Milstein, Gluckstern and the teams terrible arena deal killed the dynasty. There was hope when Charles Wang and Sanjay Kumar bought the team, but that faded when they kept Milbury as GM. As far as changing the jersey, it was a desperate move to change their image. The problem is, the old Blue and Orange was such an icon, the oilers copied it.
As a logo, the "Fisherman" logo mabey is not better then the original "Islanders" logo BUT-BUT what is for sure, the wave jerseys WAS and STILL are the BEST they have ever worn! The Islanders logo looks good but the jerseys are just SO BORING to look at. They have had some interesting jerseys like the black/silver one, but overall kept the same boring one. Crying out loud, the reverse retro jerseys have not even been a "trying" case. If Islanders had any sence today, they would easily do the 3 following; 1. Start to use the wave jerseys again like in 1996-1998 both home and road including the 2nd logo, the "lighthouse" as shoulder logos. 2. Bring back the Fisherman logo and jerseys as 3rd jersey - and as shoulder logo have the classic "Islanders" logo there. 3. Never use the old jerseys agan. Let them go. The 80's was long ago and they are completely out-dated, boring, creative lacking and inspire nothing.
Love the lighthouse logo. And I partially agree - but it’s so difficult to say goodbye to a jersey that has so much history attached to it. It feels like an original 6 jersey at this point - you can’t touch it! Look what happened when they tried!
I feel like I'm in the minority saying that I genuinely always liked those logos (Lighthouse secondary logo was amazing and should have stayed). I've always hated their traditional logo, personally. That said, the similarity with the Fish Stick brand is pretty unfortunate though.
@@sideline.archive also signed a few 'interesting' contracts too 'cough' DiPietro 'cough' The sad part is that they could NOT blame him for that logo really. I still think of Highliner fish sticks whenever I see it.
It was one of the most horrific logos ever when then Islanders already had one of the most classic iconic logos already. I never wanna see that rubbish ever again. Their current/classic is the one forever. Never veer again.
It was a masterpiece compared to the Anaheim Michelin Man jerseys. They had to get rid of them because the players refused to wear them anymore. To my knowledge it's the only time that has happened.
@@sideline.archive google image Anaheim Mighty Ducks Wild Wing jersey. You will be floored, and I'm dead serious. I think they wore it like 3 times and then the players refused to wear it any longer.
Folks who defend this garbage could use an introductory course on graphic design. When it comes to both logos and uniforms, you should strive to emphasize certain colors and details but make sure not to overdo anything to the point that the eye will be overwhelmed. And the design should have well balanced colors and geometry. The Islanders new look violated of basic principle of a good look. The colors and shapes are not proportioned well, and suddenly there's a stupid new logo apparently designed by a child or a stoned teen dominating the jersey.
I always thought that logo was awesome -- they just should have kept and incorporated the original bold Islanders colors (blue instead of turquoise, Islanders orange instead of that muted orange) and made the lines on the jerseys straight instead of that dorky wavy style.
I badly want a lighthouse logo alternate jersey made. The lighthouse patch was genius and sadly went overlooked because of the gortons fisherman logo. Which by the way those fishsticks are delicious. Just ask Kanye
It’s a very 90’s logo and even though I’m a Rangers fan, I actually like it better then the classic logo. Probably because I’m a Rangers fan. And probably because it was the logo in the NHL ‘96 game for snes!
@@sideline.archive that one was a classic for sure. But then there are the flames, the oilers 3rd, burger kings, blues, so so many. It was like every team decided to update their look (except for a few) and then later went back to their original look. Nearly all of them.
Also, the sports gear companies started telling team owners that they wanted to try "bold" and "innovative" designs, most of which have aged like milk.
Awful era for whole NHL, several teams relocating (for example, "Whalers" with their fantastic logo disappeared)... a lot of teams switched to crappy dark colors (blue became almost gray - grayish blue), all these logo experiments... also Dallas black jersey like NBA (numbers on the chest). Now it's better. Except for that "UTAH HC", c'mon it's not Europe (where I'm from) with all these "Barcelona FC", etc. give a proper name.
I have a Wendell Clark Fish stick jersey! Love it! If anyone is interested on a deeper dive, "We Want Fish Sticks" is a fantastic and very informative read.
i confirmed with alan hahn the story in his book about a visiting teams back up goalie getting busy in the locker room with a female fan was ron tugnutt lol
@@sideline.archive penguins i was at the game saw him talking to the girl first 2 periods she was wearing the shortest skirt ive ever seen lol at coliseum backups didnt sit on bench they sat in visiting teams entrance tunnel. the girls name was trish they called her trish the dish lol story is jagr walked in on them when he went in get skate fixed
When are you people going to ever understand the history of hockey ? Nobody cares about the Islanders "lucky" dynasty. And this logo just goes to prove it. I never said the Islanders were terrible but if you're going to tell me they are the best in hockey history or sports history or both, you're wrong. Nobody ever forgot Bill Smith's dirty antics. Nobody ever forgot what Denis Potvin did to Ulf Nilsson and nobody could ever beat the 1983-84 Oilers. Even if all 7 games were played on Long Island. The Oilers were a team of monstruous killers that year. 446 goals. A record that CANNOT be broken. Forget McDavid, he's definitely overrated and the league is different now anyway. How about some of these teams the Islanders DID NOT FACE during their run: the 1980-81 Canadiens, the 1981-82 Bruins and 1982-83 Sabres. These teams WERE the match the Islanders didn't face but the ridiculous NHL playoff schedule was the Islanders best friend in those days because they really had none. Reminds me of the Flyers of the 1970's. Every one from the guy making smoked meat sandwiches to cleaning the toilets wanted to club the Flyers. Go look at the statistics and tell me I'm wrong. I met Yvon Lambert one time and he said he and the Canadiens would have beaten the Islanders in 1981. Case closed.
It was terrible. It looks very minor league. But then, there were a lot of bad logo redesigns and uniform changes in the 90s...in ALL sports. (A'hem..Seattle Supersonics)
Isn't he the guy that refused to player for the Islanders when he was traded there? Played a couple of uninterested shifts and then was barred from the team. I totally agree the dynasty was long dead - but the logo fiasco made people forget all about it. The only thing people would talk about was fish sticks!
@@sideline.archiveyes muller never wanted to be traded to isles and sulked the whole time until he was benched then traded to leafs. fishsticks represent the beginning od the failed milbury era.
@@stevenbauer4799 I'd say you're right. But changing the logo from the iconic Long Island crest distanced themselves from memories of that golden era - which was all they had at that point. Especially with Milbury trading away all their best players.
@@sideline.archive you are right. the logo should have never been changed. i hated that logo and was glad when isles went back to original logo. they put it back on those ugly unis before going back to original unis.
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Great job ! My life story in fact, I had Islanders season tickets in 91-93. I split them with a roller hockey coach in College Point, Queens who asked me to. I signed the petition against the logo change (8:30) sitting somewhere in the 300 level seats at Nassau Coliseum, after sitting in the last row of MSG's blue seats for Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinals in 1994 wearing a New York Islanders original logo starter jacket. Thank you for including video of the roller blading players (4:20), the historical accuaracy of this video, the next stop for those kids on skates at this time was usually a Sega Gensis / Super Nintendo console that offered 4-way play on NHL 94. True hockey Nirvana, if you were 19 years old like I was. The most loyal of New York Islanders fans sat in section 329 at the Nassau Coliseum for home games. A lot of those guys are from Staten Island. Post dynasty, a good number of New York Islanders fans came from the surrounding areas of Queens, the boros, etc. simply because they did not want to root for the Rangers, or admired the great players and teams of the New York Islanders dynasty. Thank you for a great video, and keep in mind (Rangers Fans) the New York Islanders were at one time the greatest franchise in pro sports, and the envy of the sports world. The last North American sports franchise to win 4 consecutive championships.
This is an incredible comment. Amazing to read! Thank you!
Gretzky didn’t play for the Rangers in 94. He joined the Rangers 2 years later. Just wanted to let you know. Enjoying your work so far!
Urgh PAIN! 1996. How did I get that one wrong, I even own his Starter Rangers jersey. Appreciate the spot and thanks for watching.
@@sideline.archivedon’t sweat it. Just wanted to bring it to your attention as nicely as possible and avoid the usual internet reactions when someone makes an honest mistake.
I actually really appreciate it.
I’m never going to get every piece of info 100% right in a 12 minute video. And it lets us share and discuss this thing instead of me being all “IM RIGHT!” Or you saying “YOURE WRONG!”
Quite rare to find on the internet - so I do appreciate it brother.
Such wholesomeness! Go team! I am gonna be nicer today because of this! 😂
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Back in the day, I thought this logo and uniforms were dope. It was a bold re-imagining. NHL fans are notorious for gatekeeping and tradition though, so I can see why fans hated it
I still love it! They gotta bring back the lighthouse patch somehow.
Nah, the late 90's had some absolutely brutally bad uniform changes. Anyone with any understanding of graphic design will tell how awful most of the changes were. Uniforms traditionally tried to say a lot with very little, then all of a sudden it's like owners hired their 7 year old grandkids to design uniforms. Tacky.
Islander fan here. The logo is still very much polarizing but most have come around to it. The real problem with the uniform is that it completely erased the look of an already historic team from only a decade previous. Had this look been released as an alternate uniform and under more a more prosperous product on the ice at the time, this uniform would t have been so hated. For me personally, I was a kid in the 90’s, I remember people weren’t thrilled. Now, most of the fans in their 30’s and 40’s (and younger) grew to appreciate it and wear it like a badge of honor of sorts. It’s retro, it’s hip, it’s collectible, and it’s part of the history. I love it now, but not more than our original logo.
A great read. Cool to know how it’s appreciated inside UBS Arena. Thanks!
It's a disgusting pos logo and should be banished to the dustbin of history. How anyone can view that logo today and not be disgusted by it is beyond me.
Attacking a mascot cos you hate a logo is so bizarre to me
@@dafttassia1960 nyisles is back
100% , plenty of people actually liked the logo
Please bring it back!! That jersey was sick as hell!
Preaching to the choir brother!
Captain Fishstick rules! The problem wasn't it was a bad logo, the problem was it replaced a classic and the team sucked.
Absolutely. They just needed something to blame.
Love your channel man I can't wait to see more vintage sportswear videos like this one
More to come bro. Really means a lot and very motivating to get these comments. Thank you.
This is my favorite TH-cam channel at the moment. Keep up the great work!
Its comments like these that make all the writing, researching and editing worth it. Come join us on instagram too @sideline.archive
Love those jerseys and logos. Wish they would bring them back as a third jersey.
Super well done video, no way this only has 750 views, keep it up, great voice over / editing / video design!
Appreciate the support dude thank you.
Not sure how much baseball content you’ll do but I would recommend looking into a video on the “Back to the future” baseball jersey line from the 90s
The Turn Ahead the Clock night. I actually mention it in next week's video. But I think you're right - I'll add a full breakdown to the list. Hit that sub!
Rebrands are tough. The problem is that rebrands are lead by marketing experts who are rarely fans of the game or the team and think of a sports logo purely as a marketing tool, like any other product to be sold. They rarely understand that a sport's team is part of the fans ' cultural heritage. You can't treat it like Starbucks or Home Depot.
True - but the guy who redesigned this logo had done other successful hockey logos in the past - the San Jose Sharks if I remember correctly. I guess he just completely whiffed.
I've always loved the old logo and had no idea of it's maligned history! Loving the series man, keep up the good work
@@SamKimish appreciate it dude ty
Great stuff. Glad when the algorithm shows awesome new channels like this!
Glad you enjoy it! Hit sub to catch more videos dropping weekly.
The logo was and still is a great logo. It was those horrible wavy numbers and jersey stripes that did them in.
I kinda dig the wavy numbers tbh
@@sideline.archive HAHA! Of course you would! The actual original reveal featuring Darius kasparaitis, the waves along the body weren't present. When the season started the waves were added, check out the reveal and the eventual game pics, theyre actually vastly different. The reverse retro is actually based off the reveal jerseys.
@@Dbomb81 that’s interesting! I can’t find anything online. If you have a link send it over to me on instagram @sideline.archive - id love to see it
Hey man. First video ive seen from your channel. Interesting topic to talk about. Noticed you also go out of your way to repond to comments. Thats great engagement with your fan base. Hope your channel continues to grow man 😊👍
@@jakebernard9922 appreciate the kind words brother. Thanks for watching! If vintage sportswear floats your boat then I’ve got two other vids up, or come join us on instagram! @sideline.archive
There's been soo many worse logos, the angry islander was really average to above average all things considered.
See avs, ducks, blue jackets, hurricanes for reference point.
The Blue Jackets logo and whole design scheme is truly truly terrible.
The jerseys were incredible but they should have been alternates not the main home and away jersey.
Btw great video!
Thanks man! Hit that sub for more!
The logo itself was great then and is great now. I wouldn't go as far as saying it was ahead of its time, but it's certainly more timeless than it gets credit for. The jerseys themselves were almost adsurdly 90s, but I love them for that. And I'm sorry, the "classic" NY/LI logo is pretty damn uninspired. It's only classic cause they won't let it die.
Great video btw, keep up the good work!
Appreciate you dropping in brother! I also love this logo, wish they would incorporate the lighthouse patch somehow. Even if the jerseys weren’t well received - the Fisherman merch HIT.
Please do a video on the history of the Vancouver Canucks jerseys!
The Flying V, the flying skate, and the weird shark C thing. I’m on it. Thanks for watching bro, hit that sub!
The black V jersey is a guilty pleasure of mine. I doubt we'll ever see that again: even with the weird jerseys the 90's gave us, no team ever went as far and experimental in their redesign as the '78 Canucks
It’s odd to see a jersey with no prominent front logo. And I love that they retained elements of the V for the flying skate. The only wilder hockey jerseys are in the IHL imo - like the Detroit Vipers. But that’s a different kettle of fish entirely. The V is a hockey classic.
The Vs weren't the problem. It was the overkill with the pants. Put that jersey over black pants ...awesome.
Another banger!🔥
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I like to refer to this era of Islanders uniforms as the Captain Lloyd Duncan uniform era.
Hahaha wish I’d thought of that
I for one like the logo and whenever I’m clowned about it, I come back with, “C’mon…you know you want fish sticks now”.
I always get a laugh from that and they walk away happy.
If I hadn’t grown up near Pittsburgh and was a Penguins fan, I might have been a Islanders fan. Love the scrappy, small market vibe, and the fans are great! 👍🏼
But then you don’t get to enjoy those Jagr era pointy beak penguins jerseys. Fire.
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@@KristianWontroba great name too
The Islanders' AHL minor league affiliate, the Bridgeport Islanders, are using the Fisherman logo this season (2024-25). He's all over the website. There's even a huge painting on the side of their arena of the Fisherman.
I must travel by land and sea to see this shrine to Nyles. Incredible.
I saw a random guy in rural Mexico google maps wearing one of those jerseys
His other shirt is a Seahawks over Patriots Super Bowl victory t shirt. All the refuse winds up down south.
Incredible.
The dynasty was over for a long time before they released the Fisherman logo! Also, Gretzky was still in Los Angeles in 1994, but I do miss saying 1940!
I was in New York for the playoffs this year and I really thought it was going to be the Rangers year. Trouchek and Kreider were playing out of their minds!
@@sideline.archive I grew up a Devils fan and was more than happy to see my team knock the Rangers off in 2022, but that Stéphane Matteau goal in overtime in 1994 still is hard to watch.
I loved Marty Brodeur growing up. Also a big fan of the Devils atmosphere at games.
THG with a cameo appearance at 12:20
Love @thehockeyguy his breakdown videos are second to none.
In 1994, the Devils, despite being a championship caliber team were still struggling to connect with their fan base. They were third in the market behind the Islanders even while being in the conference final in 1994 and and winning the cup in 1995. They were actually planning a move to Nashville while winning that cup. Imagine going through all four rounds of the playoffs and not even trying to sell season plans for the following year. Fortunately for Devils fans the move fell through.
And of course the Devils were run in a super traditional top down way by Lou Lamerillo, who was not just in charge of hockey ops, he was in charge of everything from the hot dogs to the arena staff, to building the team. And he was also in charge of the almost non existent marketing. But they had a classic logo crest that has remained exactly the same since it debuted in 1982.
Of course...where did Lamerillo end up? You guessed it. Long Island. I guess after all this they wanted a proven record of incredible stubbornness in marketing.
Um the Islanders were in the Conference Finals in 1993. And considering the history up to this point, its no wonder the Devils were a distant 3rd in 1994.
I really miss the Devils green and red colour scheme. Do you know why they changed it? It did feel a bit "Christmas" but the green starter jackets they made were incredible.
Had the Devils not won the Cup in 1995 they probably would have moved to Nashville after that season.
Not an Islanders fan, but I remember when a friend of mine first showed that to me, and my reaction was “what the hell is that?”
I’m also seeing a lot of similarities between the logo and the mascot to the bizzare story of Krusty Krab, the anti-mascot for the San Francisco Giants in the 1980’s (except Krusty Krab was specifically created to be hated. It was an anti-mascot). In both cases, the hate directed at the mascot was more or less cover for a team that was throughly awful, with an frustrated fan base taking their anger out on a mascot because of how much the team sucked.
The idea of the anti-mascot is interesting - particularly with regard to Gritty. Although he has evolved into a new beast entirely. Maybe they were just way ahead of their time!
I understand the issue. However, I started watching hockey in 1995 and always prefered that jersey as there was many modern interesting jerseys throughout the 1990's, as teams tend to return to much classic designs, as the Sens, Pens, Flames and others tend to wear their early 1990's jerseys, which is cool too. Now that I see it back again I understand that the back of the jersey can look horrible to some people with the waves and all that, but for kids outside NY it was fun back then.
The problem wasn't the logo, it was that it coincided with the collapse of the team and the soap opera of ownership and management.
Gretzky?!?!
My old Pee Wee team from the 70s/80s uses the "Captain Highliner" logo with "Fishermen" where "Islanders" is, they're called the Selkirk Fishermen so it works, still makes me think of that tv ad "Have ya ever been to sea, Billy?"
I remember seeing the Fish Sticks jersey for the first time in that clip during that Rangers series. Wasn't bad enough they were being pummeled in that series, then THAT surprise?!? I boycotted the Islanders for the "Fischler" years ( not that they cared or noticed ). Even when they compromised and put the classic crest on those idiotic wavy lines....NOOOOO. It's no wonder I have no memory of Wendel Clark as an Islander.
Wait - so they previewed it DURING the Rangers series in 1994!? This changes everything!
@@sideline.archive yeah, that clip, if memory serves, was during one of those blowouts and I remember wanting to slap Bill Clemente with his, "I like those...." quit towing the company line, Bill. They're horrific.
You should make a video about the most strange but cool football shirt sponsors like Fiorentina Nintendo, Ed Sheeran Ipswich Town etc
Tell me more about Ed Sheeran Ipsiwch town?!
@@sideline.archive fan of the club so he sponsored their shirt
No need to bring Wayne Gretzky into this, he was nowhere near the 1994 Stanley Cup. As a Canucks and Gretzky fan I wouldn't have been as disappointed in Game 7. I didn't riot as I had left Vancouver for a job in Winnipeg during Round 2 but I get it, that was heartbreaking. Mark Messier wasn't very well liked in Vancouver, Wayne had a lot of fans there. Wayne was a Ranger in 1996 after a short stint in St. Louis.
Mark Messier, if he wasn't already the most hated man in Vancouver when he became the Canucks Captain in 1997 he certainly was by the time his horrible 4 years of no-playoffs tenure in the city was over. Missing the playoffs during a rebuild is forgivable, it happens to every team, but he took Wayne Maki's #11 to wear himself, Wayne died of brain cancer in 1974 and the Canucks unofficially retired his jersey, that was a sh!tty move, very disrespectful and unprofessional. If you were living in Vancouver during Messier's run as a Canuck you would see quite a few unhappy fans wearing #11 Canuck jerseys with "MAKI" on them instead of "MESSIER", my buddy Rob had one.
7:51 That photo does not look like Dennis Potvin. I don't think he ever wore a visor or a Jofa helmet. The newspaper indicates that it's him, but I think that is an error.
Ive also been eyeing a Shain of Canada islanders jacket recently. 1970s i think? Correct me if im wrong...
Correct! The “original original” Canadian Satin. Send me the tag and I’ll dig through all the info I have for it. With the traditional Long Island logo? Block color, orange white blue?
@sideline.archive I'll ping you a link
Ron Hextall DID NOT give up 22 goals , get your stats right ...
@@Elementsoftheory29 looks like we’ve found Ron Hextall’s burner account.
@@Elementsoftheory29 but you’re absolutely correct, Ron gave up 16 and was pulled for Jamie McLennan who gave up 6. It was the Islanders as a team who gave up 22.
Good ol Hextall, giving up goals on shots from the blue line.
90's hockey designs are so slick, that most sports tho
You should check out the Nike NHL Street collection. Insane.
Gotta be some Ziggy Palffy fisherman jerseys out there.
Poor Ziggy, he deserves better.
If you find any let me know. Immediately.
Love this logo!
I’ve got an idea for a Red Wings video dropping soon! Hit that sub
I love that fisherman jersey and the colors
A logo I love bit thankfully(i guess) didn't live through the tough era it represents.
A relatively new Islanders fan of the last 3-4 years I stand by the merchant being class all round.
It’s my guilty pleasure. Just wish I didn’t sell that jacket. When I was putting this film together every new clip made me regret it more.
@sideline.archive if you love something set it free. If it comes back it was meant to be. You'll find each other again.
Pickett, Maloney, Milbury, Spano, Milstein, Gluckstern and the teams terrible arena deal killed the dynasty. There was hope when Charles Wang and Sanjay Kumar bought the team, but that faded when they kept Milbury as GM.
As far as changing the jersey, it was a desperate move to change their image. The problem is, the old Blue and Orange was such an icon, the oilers copied it.
Still think it's odd the NY metro has 3 NHL teams. While Houston doesn't have one. Either Islanders or Devils should eventually relocate
nice one hugh
Nice one James!
Ive always liked it a lot, honestly
I’ve love it as a collector - not sure how I would feel if I lived through this era as a fan though
As a logo, the "Fisherman" logo mabey is not better then the original "Islanders" logo BUT-BUT what is for sure, the wave jerseys WAS and STILL are the BEST they have ever worn!
The Islanders logo looks good but the jerseys are just SO BORING to look at. They have had some interesting jerseys like the black/silver one, but overall kept the same boring one.
Crying out loud, the reverse retro jerseys have not even been a "trying" case. If Islanders had any sence today, they would easily do the 3 following;
1. Start to use the wave jerseys again like in 1996-1998 both home and road including the 2nd logo, the "lighthouse" as shoulder logos.
2. Bring back the Fisherman logo and jerseys as 3rd jersey - and as shoulder logo have the classic "Islanders" logo there.
3. Never use the old jerseys agan. Let them go. The 80's was long ago and they are completely out-dated, boring, creative lacking and inspire nothing.
Love the lighthouse logo. And I partially agree - but it’s so difficult to say goodbye to a jersey that has so much history attached to it. It feels like an original 6 jersey at this point - you can’t touch it! Look what happened when they tried!
I liked the new logo (fisherman). It looked much better than old logo. The new logo without the waves would have been OK.
I don't get why people hate the waves. I weirdly quite like them!
I can't believe you sold that jacket 😪
I can’t believe it either 😢
No Gretzky in 94, he never got another cup his time with the Oilers
I feel like I'm in the minority saying that I genuinely always liked those logos (Lighthouse secondary logo was amazing and should have stayed). I've always hated their traditional logo, personally. That said, the similarity with the Fish Stick brand is pretty unfortunate though.
I also love the Lighthouse and wish they would incorporate it into a fresh jersey design somehow.
The dumb logo didn't ruin the franchise, Mike Millbury did. Not some silly image.
Loved a trade did ol'Mikey
@@sideline.archive also signed a few 'interesting' contracts too 'cough' DiPietro 'cough'
The sad part is that they could NOT blame him for that logo really.
I still think of Highliner fish sticks whenever I see it.
@@timomajere Still hate that Luongo trade.
@@sideline.archive we don't talk about the Luongo trade...
@@timomajere The DiPietro contract was Wang.
It was one of the most horrific logos ever when then Islanders already had one of the most classic iconic logos already. I never wanna see that rubbish ever again. Their current/classic is the one forever. Never veer again.
Boooo! I quite like it!
It was a masterpiece compared to the Anaheim Michelin Man jerseys. They had to get rid of them because the players refused to wear them anymore. To my knowledge it's the only time that has happened.
Anaheim Michelin Man?! Tell me more!
@@sideline.archive google image Anaheim Mighty Ducks Wild Wing jersey. You will be floored, and I'm dead serious. I think they wore it like 3 times and then the players refused to wear it any longer.
Folks who defend this garbage could use an introductory course on graphic design. When it comes to both logos and uniforms, you should strive to emphasize certain colors and details but make sure not to overdo anything to the point that the eye will be overwhelmed. And the design should have well balanced colors and geometry. The Islanders new look violated of basic principle of a good look. The colors and shapes are not proportioned well, and suddenly there's a stupid new logo apparently designed by a child or a stoned teen dominating the jersey.
The Mighty Ducks logo was popular? I don't recall that.
And that's why they will always be called The Fishsticks to us Rangers fans!
NINETEEN FORTY!
This new jersey and logo caused me to refer to them as The New York (Captain) Highliners! Ahoy matey!
Brilliant. Bring back the Highliners!
i made sure to get one of those jerseys the second they came out......still have it.
What brand? Starter? CCM?
@@sideline.archive starter i believe. It is in excellent condition I only wear it during the season. About 3 times a year.
This is how I know I have bad fashion taste because I actually liked those jerseys lol.
I like them too. Don’t tell anybody.
I always thought that logo was awesome -- they just should have kept and incorporated the original bold Islanders colors (blue instead of turquoise, Islanders orange instead of that muted orange) and made the lines on the jerseys straight instead of that dorky wavy style.
I feel like im the only person on planet earth who likes the weird wavy numbers
I badly want a lighthouse logo alternate jersey made. The lighthouse patch was genius and sadly went overlooked because of the gortons fisherman logo. Which by the way those fishsticks are delicious. Just ask Kanye
I love the lighthouse logo. Wish they would bring it back.
As a random, if the reverse retro was orange I would have bought one
It’s a very 90’s logo and even though I’m a Rangers fan, I actually like it better then the classic logo. Probably because I’m a Rangers fan. And probably because it was the logo in the NHL ‘96 game for snes!
"WE WANT FISH STICKS" I really think the Islanders should use the Lighthouse Patch from the jersey shoulders in a design - it's awesome.
And a lot of 90's graphic design in hindsight seems very corny and trying too hard.
Lmao Wayne Gretzky was certainly not on the 1994 Rangers
I don't hate the fisherman logo, I really the wavy names and numbers.
Do you collect other teams jerseys? If so, which do you have?
@@sideline.archive I don't
The NHL Jersey really went through a lot in the 1990's when they started using Computers to design them. So many ugly jerseys from this era.
The Coyotes Kachina is a favourite as well as the desert fox. Don’t get me started on the Blue Jackets though
@@sideline.archive that one was a classic for sure. But then there are the flames, the oilers 3rd, burger kings, blues, so so many. It was like every team decided to update their look (except for a few) and then later went back to their original look. Nearly all of them.
The Flames stallion jersey is fire. Talk to me about Burger King? What's that?
Also, the sports gear companies started telling team owners that they wanted to try "bold" and "innovative" designs, most of which have aged like milk.
I amazing video
Thanks bro! Appreciate the support
I don’t know which was worse The Fisherman or Buffalo’s Slug
The slug by a million. Truly terrible.
Buffalo should have never dumped their original logo in the first place after many years they have returned to it
As a Sabres fan, the slug.
We want fish sticks!
LOUDER!
If you can find one ….. the jersey is big money now
Constantly searching for a Starter fisherman jersey.
All I could get is 2 Islanders pennants with that logo
Damn near cost Long Island the franchise
@@tonyc8752 but at least the coastal Fisherman were happy (they couldn’t care less)
Nothing says hockey quite like a British accent.
Come down to the Leeds Knights sometime pal.
Awful era for whole NHL, several teams relocating (for example, "Whalers" with their fantastic logo disappeared)... a lot of teams switched to crappy dark colors (blue became almost gray - grayish blue), all these logo experiments... also Dallas black jersey like NBA (numbers on the chest). Now it's better. Except for that "UTAH HC", c'mon it's not Europe (where I'm from) with all these "Barcelona FC", etc. give a proper name.
The MLS names are the ones that get me. Real Salt Lake?! FC Dallas? Sporting Kansas City?? Come on lads
I have a Wendell Clark Fish stick jersey! Love it! If anyone is interested on a deeper dive, "We Want Fish Sticks" is a fantastic and very informative read.
It’s an incredible book - I put it in the description when I uploaded - can’t recommend it enough.
Most Islanders fans I talk to are in agreement that if they used the Lighthouse as the main logo it would have gone over much better.
i confirmed with alan hahn the story in his book about a visiting teams back up goalie getting busy in the locker room with a female fan was ron tugnutt lol
Sens or Jackets era Ron?
@@sideline.archive penguins i was at the game saw him talking to the girl first 2 periods she was wearing the shortest skirt ive ever seen lol at coliseum backups didnt sit on bench they sat in visiting teams entrance tunnel. the girls name was trish they called her trish the dish lol story is jagr walked in on them when he went in get skate fixed
What a logo!
Now I want a Fisherman jersey…
When are you people going to ever understand the history of hockey ? Nobody cares about the Islanders "lucky" dynasty. And this logo just goes to prove it. I never said the Islanders were terrible but if you're going to tell me they are the best in hockey history or sports history or both, you're wrong. Nobody ever forgot Bill Smith's dirty antics. Nobody ever forgot what Denis Potvin did to Ulf Nilsson and nobody could ever beat the 1983-84 Oilers. Even if all 7 games were played on Long Island. The Oilers were a team of monstruous killers that year. 446 goals. A record that CANNOT be broken. Forget McDavid, he's definitely overrated and the league is different now anyway. How about some of these teams the Islanders DID NOT FACE during their run: the 1980-81 Canadiens, the 1981-82 Bruins and 1982-83 Sabres. These teams WERE the match the Islanders didn't face but the ridiculous NHL playoff schedule was the Islanders best friend in those days because they really had none. Reminds me of the Flyers of the 1970's. Every one from the guy making smoked meat sandwiches to cleaning the toilets wanted to club the Flyers. Go look at the statistics and tell me I'm wrong. I met Yvon Lambert one time and he said he and the Canadiens would have beaten the Islanders in 1981. Case closed.
All fair points. But can any dynasty be “lucky” that seems like a bit of a reach. Four back to back cups can’t be luck. Two MAYBE. But four?
0:40 Gretzky in Rangers in 1994? Wut?
Yep - mistake. Well spotted!
It was terrible. It looks very minor league. But then, there were a lot of bad logo redesigns and uniform changes in the 90s...in ALL sports. (A'hem..Seattle Supersonics)
The dynasty was over long before that. kirk muller sent isles into their '90's tailspin.
Isn't he the guy that refused to player for the Islanders when he was traded there? Played a couple of uninterested shifts and then was barred from the team. I totally agree the dynasty was long dead - but the logo fiasco made people forget all about it. The only thing people would talk about was fish sticks!
@@sideline.archiveyes muller never wanted to be traded to isles and sulked the whole time until he was benched then traded to leafs. fishsticks represent the beginning od the failed milbury era.
@@stevenbauer4799 I'd say you're right. But changing the logo from the iconic Long Island crest distanced themselves from memories of that golden era - which was all they had at that point. Especially with Milbury trading away all their best players.
@@sideline.archive you are right. the logo should have never been changed. i hated that logo and was glad when isles went back to original logo. they put it back on those ugly unis before going back to original unis.
Sports logos should be symmetrical, or at least as much as possible. They look awful otherwise.
Me personally I love it
Same…
I dunno I liked it the logo itself. The colours were cheesy more than anything
Yeah wayne was not a part of the 94 team
Correct - he was still a King! My bad.
Old time hockey!
The oldest and best!! Appreciate you brother
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Dunno its my favorite logo of nhl this comes from flyers fan