@@1Hades0.0im also stuck between 200 and 390 and i would say go for 390 it will suit you better for longer rides and for highway riding. If it was more for commuting thru the city 125 or 200 is best. My vote goes to 390 and i will most likely get 390 since its more powerful
I just bought one this past weekend and already put around 100 miles on it. Fun bike. I’m 6 foot 2 and 210lbs and I fit just fine. If you’re thinking about buying one, do it.
Hello Sir, May i ask if you have encounter a minor or major issues using KTM 200? and what resource you made, there are lot of vlogger who use duke 200 but i didn't hear any of them what are some issues that they encountered they only focus in speed. Thanks and ride safe Sir.
Picked the 200 up for my wife. Got the 390 for myself. Only complaint so far is that the clock does not keep time well, at all. Haven't found anything online indicating this is a common issue. The 200 needs a lot of throttle to get moving compared to other bikes. Nice weight. Easy to handle. Very responsive. I agree - the tires are awesome. I think it is the perfect beginner bike for my wife, who is 5' 4".
Ha! I got one for Wifey too, she has it as a commuter/backup bike and she loves it. Top little reliable bike ideal for a mini human. If I owned it I'd need a stiffer rear spring as it bottoms out but other than that, for the price, you cannot beat the little thing.
Can second this. I own a duke 200 and the clock doesn't keep time. I can set the time, and next time I start it up the clock shows the wrong time. Did you figure out the issue?? 😅
I got to ride one of these for my msf course, and I kept stalling it over and over. I’m glad to hear that I wasn’t entirely the problem. I still probably need need practice with the clutch though 😅
ive done 18000km on mine and its still just as fun as when i first got it i thought i would be bored of it but its it own bike in a way mine still gets upto 142ish on a calm day
Excellent video! Thank you for taking the time to do it, especially from the perspective of an instructor. I’m looking for a ‘first bike’ for my son. This may be it.
After I got my motorcycle license, I had that stalling issue on a Grom. Being a new rider, that really shock my confidence and I quickly got rid of that bike. Several years have passed and I just got the new Honda XR150L. I'm glad to say that issue doesn't exist and I'm a very happy camper.
Awesome to hear. Yeah the groms stall quick too. That’s why I have eight z125s now. Much friendlier clutch. I have two XR150Ls on order for the new year. Can’t wait to ride them, review them and get them out on the training lot. Ride safe and enjoy your XR
Not gonna lie, I'm regretting not waiting for the Duke 200 to come in stock near me. I ended up getting a Z125 Pro and all I can do with it is ride it to work and back a few blocks away, because to go anywhere else where I live, I'd have to get on the interstate. I'm only 140lbs and my Z125 struggles to hit just 55mph on flat ground.
Ride the highway on windy days when the wind is at your back! Try to find a Duke 200 you can trade for at a dealer. A bit of extra cash but it’ll open up where you can ride comfortably a lot more.
Just brought ine if these as my first bike so thank you for the heads up about rhe clutch and the rear brake quirk. Will know what to look out for in the future
So I have owned my 2023 duke 200 for about 6 months tbh i crashed it the first day i got it cause I was too new to riding at the time thankfully the dealership where i bought it made sure I was taken care of and had it repaired etc then dropped it at my place roughly a month ago i took the brc with total control and got the confidence to get back on the duke and i have riden it since getting back on it. From being in a drenching downpour to down the highway right by my house at 60mph it definitely is a great motorcycle to start on. My only issue is the struggle to find good bags for it so I can carry a couple things with me to work on the bike instead of in a backpack. Outside for that complaint I love my duke and in all honest with riding over the past two weeks I have easily put 150 miles on it.
In Chile i had 2 Ns200 bikes (the old one and the fi version) and have same details as duke 200... now living in new jersey i'm so glad to find this bike... of courae i could think hey dude you can afford a 600cc bike... but for what? If here you juat drive at 25mph in cities... and thia bike its perfect for going to work to home and to have few rides in weekend. And the price i love it.
If you do it right the Duke 200 very much will walk itself with the clutch out. It will stall every time you do it from a stop but if you walk a little while letting the clutch out at the same time she'll walk on her own. Especially down hill once you get it going it will keep going. And the bike has ample power to walk itself clutch out because I have done it and I'm 6'1 and weight around 230ish.
I took the msf on a duke 200. First time on a motorcycle and had zero issues with stalling. I look forward to trying something else if that's really the case with ktm... again I have zero experience other than the msf course.
@@JPARKERZ28 I was wrong on my size in the original comment I was 260 pounds when I was on the Duke. She hated my weight since I weighed almost as much as she did. But I made do, KTMs aren't always the most reliable so I'd keep your ear out and head to the earth kind of deal when it comes to KTM shopping. They are fast as hell tho and fun but definitely on the sketchier side on whether or not they'll leak.
Fair… But 1 mm from a clutch fully engaged to stall is too sensitive. I thought the Honda Grom had the worst clutch. The new champion is the KTM duke 200.
@@leeridefar i dont know why, but i use Duke 200 to go to work everyday without any problem. Not a single stall. I love my Duke so much. I can do a lot of fun things with it on the road to work
@@leeridefar true I took my safety course and stalled a million times really effected my self esteem. Got a 900c street twin and like night and day don't ever stall it. This bike to sensitive
I’m here in Montreal, I’m looking at both the 200cc and 390cc tomorrow, both are in the $4,500 range. As my first bike, do you think I should go straight to the 390?
Forget about KTM's crap. The head gasket will be blown in 6 months(few thousands km normal ride). If you live in somewhere with bad local KTM brand who do not keep parts, you can wait for months until the part arrive. This won't happen on any other entry level bikes .
Nice video Thank you! I'm looking at this vs the 390... currently thinking used in Cali - anything you recommend to look out for in used bikes or KTMs / the models I listed ? Weight and cost are keeping me closer to the 200 - the speed to pass, quality and best 1st bike are my worry for this 200.. appreciate any time for your thoughts - Take Care & Thanks!
I’m riding a Suzuki VanVan200 right now. It’s fine but the Duke200 is more exciting. Yamaha R3s are great. Kawasaki Z400 would be ideal if you can find it for a reasonable price. If you end up with the Duke 200, you won’t go wrong.
Bruh 26 horsepower is very impressive considering the 2020 model Honda grom 9.8 HP.....and honestly yeah i bought the grom before the ktm 200 duke was released...and dam i wouldn't mind getting that for about 700$ more.....but yet it won't fit in the shed am using for winter 😂
@@leeridefar , i have 0 experience for building a shed😂 and beside in Canada am gonna pay 3k$ for my frist year of insurance for the honda grom, since am under 25 So am putting my money on that
The Honda XR150L is coming to North America, and I was thinking that it would make a good 1st bike for me. Any thoughts? The KTM Duke 200 is basically the same price as one more gear, fuel injection, and a lot more tech. I'm wondering if the Honda would still be more reliable, even though it's a little slower and smaller? As an instructor, you've got a perfect excuse to go and test drive and buy one today! I really enjoyed this review. Thank you. Happy trails. IEdward in Irvine California
I’ve got one on order so I will be doing a review when I get it. From what I’ve read, the Xr150 will be more trail, slower roads where KTM Duke 200 is good enough for highway too. You can’t beat Honda reliability but KTM makes a great product too. If you can ride both go for the one that gets you excited more. If you get the XR let me know!
My dream bike was the ktm duke 390. Haven't had a bike in years. Had a 600. It's too much for me a small bike like this looks even better than the 390 for me. Been awhile since i rode now I'm randomly thinking of getting this lol
I sorta wish I got this instead of my 2019 Honda Grom. But hind sight is 20/20 as they say. I haven't been riding in a couple of years now so I need to redo learners/MST again. :O
I don't think the clutch is excessively sensitive. It's not difficult to find the bite point, without stalling the engine, even when its idling. It may be more sensitive than some bigger bikes with more flywheel mass, but its no worse than other small bikes I've ridden.
@@leeridefar Do you find the engine braking very strong on this bike ? Comparing it with 2-strokes I've ridden in the past, the engine braking seems to be really strong, especially if the throttle is completely closed.
The 390 is not any bigger than the 200.. the engine has bigger displacement and the headlight and instrument panel is different but the chassis and everything else is identical.. for a 6foot tall dude though, that could be small..
You must keep the revs much higher than every other bike to avoid the stall. KTM runs a very lean fuel map. As a beginner bike this will be frustrating for the rider. They will get used to it.
Bro im in great confusion to get this or 250duke, i hav test ridden both i felt 200 was more punchy than 250 y is that? 250 has 5hp more nd 5nm more than 200duke, the 250 gets its power lately while 200 is giving instant takeoff, i even got choice of Rc200 2022model which get everything features wise when compared to these both.
Its a fun bike for sure, but I would say start with a Duke 390 or a Ninja 400 and move up from there. I'm finding that I am going to need to go to an MT-07 or an SV650 after this. Definitely a very rev happy bike that is actually quite fun to push sometimes. Not enough power for driving around Houston though. lol
I just bought this bike and im so glad I did it, bike es light and even with that im still struggling to handle the bike at low speeds or in traffic, for a rider with no experience at all its an awesome bike i fucking love it🤩
@@daniacosta3806 Its a great bike to practice on and learn if you are new rider. I recently upgraded mine and got the MT-07. But the KTM 200 was a lot of fun to drive for sure.
@@mustangpilot6786 I’m not even thinking about an upgrade, just to let you know, haven’t even reached 60mph🤣 I want to enjoy every ride and always being safe
Looking to get into bikes so will be a new rider, biggish guy at 179cm 90kg (5,11 198pounds for you Americans). Question is would a 200 be to small for someone like me? And how do they compare to the Yamaha Mt 03 and 07 range? Thanks in advanced. (also note I live in the hills so not much highway riding would be done)
Toby. If you can find a good deal on the KTM 200 go for it. If you can afford to spend more on MT 03 do that. The MT 07 would be great too. As long as you’re not doing sustained long highway riding the KTM 200 will be great for you. I am 100 kg and 190 cm tall and I was quite comfortable riding the KTM 200 around.
@@leeridefar the KTM is alot cheaper in Australia $4500 brand new with all the warrentys etc compared to a used Mt 03 which is $6000 and new Mt 07 at $11500.
@Lee RideFar yes I'm aware of the brand but I see 2 listed for the duke 200 not sure which one , I see 9001112 and 9003112 , I have same model/year as you
I could be wrong about this Stats, as I only looked up two sources. You said the Duke 200 weights 275lbs, correct.? I see it listed at 140kgs which is 308lbs, right.? The 2020 Duke 390 is listed at 149kgs, which is 328lbs. Do you think this is a significant difference.? I say it's not.! Next, I looked-up the seat height to be 823mm, which equals 32.4" (did you said it was 31", I need to re-watch this video) Did you know the 2020 Duke 390 is 830mm, or 32.6" again I don't feel 7mm difference is that significant. The Duke 200, has 19 kW or 25 HP, while the 390 has 32 kW aka 43.4 HP. The Duke 200 has the old 390 gauges (not the new fancy colour TFT display) The old 390 headlight, (with no heat-sink) so for me, the Duke 200 is NOT WORTH it. Give it 3-years, when we will start to see some used, perhaps then it can be an option as the Used Price should be far less then the Used Price of a 390 Duke (which is only 373cc, I know) I wanted the Duke 200 to be similar to the Grom in weight (225lbs) and seat height of 29.9".
Weight difference is no significant. However every pound counts the lower the weight. Seat height is 31.9in. The point nine did not come through in the audio enough. Is a stand sporty bike height. Only the Z400 is lower at 30.9in which isn’t much but again every bit counts. The TFT display is nice but if you’re a newer rider. Stop looking down :) Given the popularity of the Duke 390 and the Duke 200 being unknown. There are deals there. Better value for the Duke 200 Currently. Both the Duke 200 and the Duke 390 are not bikes riders will ride for a long period of time. They’ll ride it and move on. Good points to bring up Angel!
Anyway you could do a Duke 200 vs 390 video Lee.? I have owned a; Grom, CBR 125, VanVan 200, Konker KSM 200, DR 200 as well as every 300cc Class Sport Bike and also KTM RC 390. Based on this, I think I have a pretty good idea what a 200cc Sport Bike should be. The Duke 200 is a FAIL bcz the seat height is a bit too high and the weight is bit too much and the Price is much too expensive (but should be reasonable in about 3-years as a used Bike)
Yes. $3800 is solid. If you keep it in great condition you won’t lose much on the sale. The best bike to sell is the new rider friendly Bike. Biggest market to sell too.
Im 5'4 can this bike be lowered if yes by how much please im buying my first bike and i wanna be able to flat foot it until i gain enough confidence (i have a very low inseam 😊)
Not sure. But start with making the seat thinner and get motorcycle boots with thicker soles. That should be enough. If not contact a KTM dealer or check a KTM Duke 200/390 forum for other people who have lowered theirs.
I've this bike and yes you do have to rev it a little more than most other bikes but nowhere near what he did,he either just can't operate a clutch and throttle very good or he's just over exaggerating. Lol
After using on a training lot for new riders for a year. It’s the bike that stalls the easiest. If you own it, it’s no problem as you get used to it. The engine runs lean so that makes it a little more challenging too. I still love the bike
This bike is good but let me review: Sound is not good seat is not comfortable limited extra sporty color no features engine gets hot in traffic I am telling you far better option:(1) CB hness 350 Honda , This is best best, but it's classic, if need a sport bike than duke 200 is fine
Lee, I feel it's currently NOT WORTH IT, and a let down model, here in Canada. One of the biggest factors for me is the Price vs Value and this scores very low for me. I'll never buy a brand new bike, as they deprecate so quickly the day they leave the dealership, so I don't know the MSRP's of any motorcycles. Did you say they are $4000 brand new with 0 kms out the door.? Did you say you paid $3000 for yours? How many kms did your have when you bought it.? I dont see ANY USED at all, here in Alberta. Let's compare it to the Duke 390; I can buy a 2015 Duke 390 for less, however the Duke 200 was only available in Canada in 2020 I believe, so to be fair, lets compare it to a 2020 Duke 390...
this guy supposedly trains new riders but can not even operate a clutch properly? What a squid? just rode one of these bikes and didn't notice any difference between it and over a hundred of other bikes I have ridden. Clutch action is actually quite nice as it typical of KTMs
Lawerence I have 50 bikes and this one stalls the easiest. When training new riders having the bikes with the easiest clutches helps a lot. The KTM was fine for more experienced riders but harder for newer riders. I want to make the experience of learning to ride, the easiest it can be.
Depends on how long your legs are. If your in seam is 26in or 66cm you will be on your toes. However, motorcycle boots with a thicker sole will help a lot. It is a better bike for shorter riders. So is the Yamaha MT 03
I'm 5'4 and just picked up the 2022 model. My beta dirt bike sits at 35 inches so the duke feels really short to me. Loads of fun if you know how to feather the clutch and rip around town.
I dumped all my big bikes and bought this. The most fun I’ve had in years.
Im debating between the 200 and 390. I will taking it on the highway. Not much but def will happen weekly. You think the 390 is better?
@@1Hades0.0im also stuck between 200 and 390 and i would say go for 390 it will suit you better for longer rides and for highway riding. If it was more for commuting thru the city 125 or 200 is best. My vote goes to 390 and i will most likely get 390 since its more powerful
@tukson2 yea i def wanna go on a highway
Thanks for tye reply
@@1Hades0.0the 390 is supposed to be uncomfortably hot to ride on.
@@robertkistler6621does the 200 have that problem too?
the stalling issue was an important point! its nice to know these things can be re-workded if needed.
It’s completely manageable but I don’t know why KTM would make the clutch so prone to easy stalls. Not needed.
I just bought one this past weekend and already put around 100 miles on it. Fun bike. I’m 6 foot 2 and 210lbs and I fit just fine. If you’re thinking about buying one, do it.
Thanks for first hand ride report! 🫡
Thanks for the comment bro , im the same size as you. I think im going to pull the trigger on it
I've had mine for over a year. Did 800 miles in 22hrs through Vegas
Hello Sir, May i ask if you have encounter a minor or major issues using KTM 200? and what resource you made, there are lot of vlogger who use duke 200 but i didn't hear any of them what are some issues that they encountered they only focus in speed. Thanks and ride safe Sir.
How is your reliability been? I've been considering one of these myself
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Picked up a white one as my first bike. Love it and enjoy riding it. You summed up the quirks and whatnot perfectly. Really good starter bike
Thia bike its pretty nice for stunt
Thanks to your review, I picked up the 200 for $3500 and absolutely love it as my first clutch bike. Thanks for the review
Whenever you sell it, you won’t lost much money off it
5,000.00 in 2024.
I've been riding one since launch, it's been a little over 3.5 years, hands down the best 200, no regrets till date.
Not many other 200s to chose from but this one feels more like a 300.
Picked the 200 up for my wife. Got the 390 for myself. Only complaint so far is that the clock does not keep time well, at all. Haven't found anything online indicating this is a common issue.
The 200 needs a lot of throttle to get moving compared to other bikes.
Nice weight.
Easy to handle.
Very responsive.
I agree - the tires are awesome.
I think it is the perfect beginner bike for my wife, who is 5' 4".
Might want to check that your cable is adjusted properly. The one I tested out was like a rocket.
Ha! I got one for Wifey too, she has it as a commuter/backup bike and she loves it. Top little reliable bike ideal for a mini human. If I owned it I'd need a stiffer rear spring as it bottoms out but other than that, for the price, you cannot beat the little thing.
Can second this. I own a duke 200 and the clock doesn't keep time. I can set the time, and next time I start it up the clock shows the wrong time.
Did you figure out the issue?? 😅
@@SkyeGellmann No. 💩
I got to ride one of these for my msf course, and I kept stalling it over and over. I’m glad to hear that I wasn’t entirely the problem. I still probably need need practice with the clutch though 😅
Yeah. That lean running engine! Every bike has a weak point and it that’s one for the KTM
ive done 18000km on mine and its still just as fun as when i first got it
i thought i would be bored of it but its it own bike in a way
mine still gets upto 142ish on a calm day
Nicely done. Keep the rides interesting and you’ll never get bored.
142 gps?
Im surprised people dont seem to believe me? Do you own this bike?hahah
My top is 149
@QuickStar24 pretty sure they're talking KMH. Very few countries use MPH, just saying.
@@AcrylicDuckhow much you weight?
Deffs will want to get me one in the future. Just bought the xr 150. Having the time of my life with that bike.
I’ve got one on order! What do you like about it?
I live in Wellington New Zealand and this bike is the perfect formula for everyday city fun.
Hello from Canada! Any issues with it stalling quickly? You really need to keep the revs up in order to prevent the bike from stalling
@@leeridefar none so far! Traffic isnt awful here, so the bike is always moving. In country road twisties it of course rarely stopping.
I've never owned a motorcycle before. I been looking at them and keep gravitating to the KTM cruiser bikes. They look so good!
Excellent video! Thank you for taking the time to do it, especially from the perspective of an instructor. I’m looking for a ‘first bike’ for my son. This may be it.
After I got my motorcycle license, I had that stalling issue on a Grom. Being a new rider, that really shock my confidence and I quickly got rid of that bike. Several years have passed and I just got the new Honda XR150L. I'm glad to say that issue doesn't exist and I'm a very happy camper.
Awesome to hear. Yeah the groms stall quick too. That’s why I have eight z125s now. Much friendlier clutch.
I have two XR150Ls on order for the new year. Can’t wait to ride them, review them and get them out on the training lot.
Ride safe and enjoy your XR
I'll just sum it up by saying best damn motorcycle money can buy at its class. Collecting mine today. I'm SUPER PUMPED
Nice video. I'm gonna book mine this April. Excited. 😁
Not gonna lie, I'm regretting not waiting for the Duke 200 to come in stock near me. I ended up getting a Z125 Pro and all I can do with it is ride it to work and back a few blocks away, because to go anywhere else where I live, I'd have to get on the interstate. I'm only 140lbs and my Z125 struggles to hit just 55mph on flat ground.
Ride the highway on windy days when the wind is at your back!
Try to find a Duke 200 you can trade for at a dealer. A bit of extra cash but it’ll open up where you can ride comfortably a lot more.
Just brought ine if these as my first bike so thank you for the heads up about rhe clutch and the rear brake quirk. Will know what to look out for in the future
They are listed for $4099 at our local dealership here. Thinking about maybe getting one, not decided yet…
Do it! Any bike under $5k won’t lose much in value. Cheap fun and cheap commuting.
I'll probably be buying one as my first street bike.
So I have owned my 2023 duke 200 for about 6 months tbh i crashed it the first day i got it cause I was too new to riding at the time thankfully the dealership where i bought it made sure I was taken care of and had it repaired etc then dropped it at my place roughly a month ago i took the brc with total control and got the confidence to get back on the duke and i have riden it since getting back on it. From being in a drenching downpour to down the highway right by my house at 60mph it definitely is a great motorcycle to start on. My only issue is the struggle to find good bags for it so I can carry a couple things with me to work on the bike instead of in a backpack. Outside for that complaint I love my duke and in all honest with riding over the past two weeks I have easily put 150 miles on it.
All part of experience of riding. You’re doing great!
In Chile i had 2 Ns200 bikes (the old one and the fi version) and have same details as duke 200... now living in new jersey i'm so glad to find this bike... of courae i could think hey dude you can afford a 600cc bike... but for what? If here you juat drive at 25mph in cities... and thia bike its perfect for going to work to home and to have few rides in weekend. And the price i love it.
I agree!
If you do it right the Duke 200 very much will walk itself with the clutch out. It will stall every time you do it from a stop but if you walk a little while letting the clutch out at the same time she'll walk on her own. Especially down hill once you get it going it will keep going. And the bike has ample power to walk itself clutch out because I have done it and I'm 6'1 and weight around 230ish.
Me too but it is still very very sensitive.
I took the msf on a duke 200. First time on a motorcycle and had zero issues with stalling. I look forward to trying something else if that's really the case with ktm... again I have zero experience other than the msf course.
@@JPARKERZ28 I was wrong on my size in the original comment I was 260 pounds when I was on the Duke. She hated my weight since I weighed almost as much as she did. But I made do, KTMs aren't always the most reliable so I'd keep your ear out and head to the earth kind of deal when it comes to KTM shopping. They are fast as hell tho and fun but definitely on the sketchier side on whether or not they'll leak.
Well, luckily NZ motorways have a speed limit of 100Kph.
Perfect bike for NZ
u sounded like dead pool... 🤔
Have you seen both at the same time ?
“Let the clutch out just a bit”……. Proceeds to dump the clutch like a rookie???? 😂
Fair… But 1 mm from a clutch fully engaged to stall is too sensitive. I thought the Honda Grom had the worst clutch. The new champion is the KTM duke 200.
@@leeridefar i dont know why, but i use Duke 200 to go to work everyday without any problem. Not a single stall. I love my Duke so much. I can do a lot of fun things with it on the road to work
@@leeridefar true I took my safety course and stalled a million times really effected my self esteem. Got a 900c street twin and like night and day don't ever stall it. This bike to sensitive
I’m here in Montreal, I’m looking at both the 200cc and 390cc tomorrow, both are in the $4,500 range.
As my first bike, do you think I should go straight to the 390?
Yes. The 390 is not much different than the 200. The extra power is nice and not excessive.
Any kind of saddle bags possibility? My eBike by Lectric is outfitted with a trunk and two side bags and I can go shopping with it. For the most part.
Soft bags for sure. Hard bags no. You’d have to make a custom rack for it.
I took this out for a test ride as soon as I got a motorcycle license. It was perfect
Didn't have the stalling issue with it even with a new rider. But I can see how this low torque bike and quiet exhaust could contribute to it.
It runs pretty lean (California Emission Standards) so that doesn’t help either.
It goes 142km and some duke 145km in India nice video
Full tuck and downhill with wind.
Forget about KTM's crap. The head gasket will be blown in 6 months(few thousands km normal ride). If you live in somewhere with bad local KTM brand who do not keep parts, you can wait for months until the part arrive.
This won't happen on any other entry level bikes .
Correct. It can be an unreliable brand.
Nice video Thank you! I'm looking at this vs the 390... currently thinking used in Cali - anything you recommend to look out for in used bikes or KTMs / the models I listed ?
Weight and cost are keeping me closer to the 200 - the speed to pass, quality and best 1st bike are my worry for this 200.. appreciate any time for your thoughts - Take Care & Thanks!
I’m riding a Suzuki VanVan200 right now. It’s fine but the Duke200 is more exciting. Yamaha R3s are great. Kawasaki Z400 would be ideal if you can find it for a reasonable price. If you end up with the Duke 200, you won’t go wrong.
Make sure you rip through some of the Cali roads. So many good ones.
Bruh 26 horsepower is very impressive considering the 2020 model Honda grom 9.8 HP.....and honestly yeah i bought the grom before the ktm 200 duke was released...and dam i wouldn't mind getting that for about 700$ more.....but yet it won't fit in the shed am using for winter 😂
That’s a good comparison. Grom vs ktm200. ALOT of similarities.
Build a bigger shed! There is a TH-cam for that!
@@leeridefar , i have 0 experience for building a shed😂 and beside in Canada am gonna pay 3k$ for my frist year of insurance for the honda grom, since am under 25
So am putting my money on that
Be prepared for the repair cost
can you give us a link to the crash guard and slider pads you added. they are perfect for beginners!
crazyiron.eu/
I was thinking about a grom and didn’t know about this 200 Duke. I think I’m changing my mind
Solid choice especially if you’re taller
The Honda XR150L is coming to North America, and I was thinking that it would make a good 1st bike for me. Any thoughts? The KTM Duke 200 is basically the same price as one more gear, fuel injection, and a lot more tech. I'm wondering if the Honda would still be more reliable, even though it's a little slower and smaller? As an instructor, you've got a perfect excuse to go and test drive and buy one today! I really enjoyed this review. Thank you. Happy trails. IEdward in Irvine California
I’ve got one on order so I will be doing a review when I get it. From what I’ve read, the Xr150 will be more trail, slower roads where KTM Duke 200 is good enough for highway too. You can’t beat Honda reliability but KTM makes a great product too. If you can ride both go for the one that gets you excited more. If you get the XR let me know!
@Lee RideFar Thank you. I am looking forward to your review.
I currently ave a Suzuki GSXS 125 as my noobie trainer bike, looking to get one of these as an alternative
My dream bike was the ktm duke 390. Haven't had a bike in years. Had a 600. It's too much for me a small bike like this looks even better than the 390 for me. Been awhile since i rode now I'm randomly thinking of getting this lol
The Duke 200 and 390 look pretty similar! Flip a coin 😆
Best bike ever.
man the bike looks good. and you look alike Ryan Reynolds. man keep safe and ride safe..
Note take mirrors off for when wife learns on it.
YES
Hello , where did you buy the stunt cage . Is there a model number I should type for thus exactly bike cage .I have the sane bike. Thanks in advance 🙂
Crazy Iron. It’s in Russia so it might be hard to order one…
0:13 Because I cannot even afford to get it from the dealership
In some markets the 390 is too much of a premium
Must be Canadian with that ou accent for the word out that really stands out to Americans.
I sorta wish I got this instead of my 2019 Honda Grom. But hind sight is 20/20 as they say. I haven't been riding in a couple of years now so I need to redo learners/MST again. :O
Why, I'm guessing for the full size wheels?
@@kevincrockett5155 I'm not sure if your comment was for me and nor am I sure what it meant(?)
I don't think the clutch is excessively sensitive. It's not difficult to find the bite point, without stalling the engine, even when its idling.
It may be more sensitive than some bigger bikes with more flywheel mass, but its no worse than other small bikes I've ridden.
Once you get used to it. It is ok.
@@leeridefar Do you find the engine braking very strong on this bike ? Comparing it with 2-strokes I've ridden in the past, the engine braking seems to be really strong, especially if the throttle is completely closed.
@@synergie8 Yes the engine braking is a bit strong from the low gearing.
@@kmb957 Thanks. I now also have a KLX230S dirt bike and the engine braking on that bike is noticably less than the Duke 200.
Being 107 meters tall is quite tall since one meter is 39.37 inches.
You are correct! 😆
The 390 is not any bigger than the 200.. the engine has bigger displacement and the headlight and instrument panel is different but the chassis and everything else is identical.. for a 6foot tall dude though, that could be small..
Definitely small but manageable since it’s upright.
The stalling is due to dumping the clutch, let it go gradually and increase throttle as the bike begins to move; this is a rookie mistake.
You must keep the revs much higher than every other bike to avoid the stall. KTM runs a very lean fuel map. As a beginner bike this will be frustrating for the rider. They will get used to it.
Bro im in great confusion to get this or 250duke, i hav test ridden both i felt 200 was more punchy than 250 y is that? 250 has 5hp more nd 5nm more than 200duke, the 250 gets its power lately while 200 is giving instant takeoff, i even got choice of Rc200 2022model which get everything features wise when compared to these both.
Get whatever the best deal is. Maybe not the RC as it is less comfortable.
I love your videos man, can you give us some rides and travel vlogs maybe?
I used to but they never got much attention. Never had a video go over 1000 views. People love reviews.
cool, very good review
Here in the philippines ktm duke200 comes with mrf tire that quiet cheap and slippery tire
Frustrating. Good tires make all the difference.
@@leeridefar yes sir its frustrating different stock tire it depends on the country
Informative video👍🏻
Power comparison between this and the other single cylinder cb300r? People say the CB is peppy are the power comparable?
The KTM Duke pulls as hard as the cb300f. KTM gets good strong power from their 200
thinking on getting one that’s 2.7k rn new for my first bike do you still recommend it
Absolutely!
please go for MT-15, FAR AMAZING MILEAGE AND BIKE PRICE
It’s not available in North America.
Hello I'm considering this bike but I am not sure.
If you can find a great deal on it but it. If not buy something else.
@@leeridefar y
Nice video but the sound is very low.
I’ll keep that in mind for future videos
It’s like a grown up grom sort of
Exactly. Since naked upright bikes are so popular. You have a Grom of all sizes!
You say no good on the highway... what is a suitable cruising speed? Can I highway at 100km?
is it no good as a commuter?
Yes. It will do 100kmh on the highway. It will just be almost at the upper range of engine revs. It will do highways but it will vibrate a lot.
Its a fun bike for sure, but I would say start with a Duke 390 or a Ninja 400 and move up from there. I'm finding that I am going to need to go to an MT-07 or an SV650 after this. Definitely a very rev happy bike that is actually quite fun to push sometimes. Not enough power for driving around Houston though. lol
Definitely. A lot of big interstates in Houston!
I just bought this bike and im so glad I did it, bike es light and even with that im still struggling to handle the bike at low speeds or in traffic, for a rider with no experience at all its an awesome bike i fucking love it🤩
@@daniacosta3806 Its a great bike to practice on and learn if you are new rider. I recently upgraded mine and got the MT-07. But the KTM 200 was a lot of fun to drive for sure.
@@mustangpilot6786 I’m not even thinking about an upgrade, just to let you know, haven’t even reached 60mph🤣 I want to enjoy every ride and always being safe
@@mustangpilot6786 but the mt-07 looks and for sure its an awesome bike
Looking to get into bikes so will be a new rider, biggish guy at 179cm 90kg (5,11 198pounds for you Americans). Question is would a 200 be to small for someone like me? And how do they compare to the Yamaha Mt 03 and 07 range?
Thanks in advanced.
(also note I live in the hills so not much highway riding would be done)
Toby. If you can find a good deal on the KTM 200 go for it. If you can afford to spend more on MT 03 do that. The MT 07 would be great too. As long as you’re not doing sustained long highway riding the KTM 200 will be great for you. I am 100 kg and 190 cm tall and I was quite comfortable riding the KTM 200 around.
@@leeridefar the KTM is alot cheaper in Australia $4500 brand new with all the warrentys etc compared to a used Mt 03 which is $6000 and new Mt 07 at $11500.
If you can get a used mt03 with less than 5,000kms or so that would be a great way to go. Yamaha has the reliability over KTM.
Stalls easy but a good training bike, hmm .
When I called a KTM dealer about they said there is a $400 aftermarket solution for it. Thanks KTM!
Hey man, does this new version still have overheating issues?
I haven’t had a problem with it. Maybe in India where it can get very very hot?
@@leeridefar yeah, I'm from the Philippines and it can get very hot, I bought the bike, and its really great!
I'm torn between the 390 and the 200
If your riding requires more highways 390
Less highways 200
So would this bike be good enough to get to and from work 24 miles on the highway there and 24 miles back home
Not a 70mph highway but a 60mph. Yes
Bouta get mine for about 3k as my first bike🎉
Awesome!!!
Ryan Reynolds reviews motorcycles?
Do you have link of the stunt cage ? I see they have 2 frontw listed for the duke 200 .n
Crazy Iron
@Lee RideFar yes I'm aware of the brand but I see 2 listed for the duke 200 not sure which one , I see 9001112 and 9003112 , I have same model/year as you
Very good video!!!
What fuel economy is this bike getting on average?
3-4L per 100kms or 60mpg to 75mpg
If you don't flog the bike everywhere, it will easily get 85mpg. I go 200+ miles per tank no problem.
It’s a real motorcycle vs a Grom.
I could be wrong about this Stats, as I only looked up two sources. You said the Duke 200 weights 275lbs, correct.? I see it listed at 140kgs which is 308lbs, right.? The 2020 Duke 390 is listed at 149kgs, which is 328lbs. Do you think this is a significant difference.? I say it's not.! Next, I looked-up the seat height to be 823mm, which equals 32.4" (did you said it was 31", I need to re-watch this video) Did you know the 2020 Duke 390 is 830mm, or 32.6" again I don't feel 7mm difference is that significant. The Duke 200, has 19 kW or 25 HP, while the 390 has 32 kW aka 43.4 HP. The Duke 200 has the old 390 gauges (not the new fancy colour TFT display) The old 390 headlight, (with no heat-sink) so for me, the Duke 200 is NOT WORTH it. Give it 3-years, when we will start to see some used, perhaps then it can be an option as the Used Price should be far less then the Used Price of a 390 Duke (which is only 373cc, I know) I wanted the Duke 200 to be similar to the Grom in weight (225lbs) and seat height of 29.9".
Weight difference is no significant. However every pound counts the lower the weight.
Seat height is 31.9in. The point nine did not come through in the audio enough. Is a stand sporty bike height. Only the Z400 is lower at 30.9in which isn’t much but again every bit counts.
The TFT display is nice but if you’re a newer rider. Stop looking down :)
Given the popularity of the Duke 390 and the Duke 200 being unknown. There are deals there. Better value for the Duke 200 Currently.
Both the Duke 200 and the Duke 390 are not bikes riders will ride for a long period of time. They’ll ride it and move on.
Good points to bring up Angel!
Anyway you could do a Duke 200 vs 390 video Lee.? I have owned a; Grom, CBR 125, VanVan 200, Konker KSM 200, DR 200 as well as every 300cc Class Sport Bike and also KTM RC 390. Based on this, I think I have a pretty good idea what a 200cc Sport Bike should be. The Duke 200 is a FAIL bcz the seat height is a bit too high and the weight is bit too much and the Price is much too expensive (but should be reasonable in about 3-years as a used Bike)
i mean what did you expect when dropping the clutch
I have 50+ motorcycles in my school fleet and this one stalls the easiest. It’s unnecessary.
I am almost 90 kg and 1.82 higth . Is this motorcycle for me? Can he drive whit me :)
You’ll be good on this bike
Thanks for comment :)) 👋🤝😎💚
Where did you get the orange crash bars?
Crazy iron from Russia. We ordered it before the Ukrainian war. Not so sure that’s possible now
hows the gas consumption? how many kilometers per liter?
3-4L per 100kms. It really depends on what kind of riding you do. The most fuel efficient speed is 90kmh for most motorcycles and cars.
I bought this for 3800 aud but it had ran 5000 km is that a good deal?
Yes. $3800 is solid. If you keep it in great condition you won’t lose much on the sale. The best bike to sell is the new rider friendly
Bike. Biggest market to sell too.
Im 5'4 can this bike be lowered if yes by how much please im buying my first bike and i wanna be able to flat foot it until i gain enough confidence (i have a very low inseam 😊)
Not sure. But start with making the seat thinner and get motorcycle boots with thicker soles. That should be enough. If not contact a KTM dealer or check a KTM Duke 200/390 forum for other people who have lowered theirs.
can this bike be lowered??
Yes. They change the shock linkage. It’s better to try getting a thinner seat and taller boots first.
What's the mpg/ kph?
75-80'ish mpg
I've this bike and yes you do have to rev it a little more than most other bikes but nowhere near what he did,he either just can't operate a clutch and throttle very good or he's just over exaggerating. Lol
After using on a training lot for new riders for a year. It’s the bike that stalls the easiest. If you own it, it’s no problem as you get used to it. The engine runs lean so that makes it a little more challenging too.
I still love the bike
This bike is good but let me review: Sound is not good
seat is not comfortable
limited extra sporty color
no features
engine gets hot in traffic
I am telling you far better option:(1) CB hness 350 Honda , This is best best, but it's classic, if need a sport bike than duke 200 is fine
Cb300r as well
Lee, I feel it's currently NOT WORTH IT, and a let down model, here in Canada. One of the biggest factors for me is the Price vs Value and this scores very low for me. I'll never buy a brand new bike, as they deprecate so quickly the day they leave the dealership, so I don't know the MSRP's of any motorcycles. Did you say they are $4000 brand new with 0 kms out the door.? Did you say you paid $3000 for yours? How many kms did your have when you bought it.? I dont see ANY USED at all, here in Alberta. Let's compare it to the Duke 390; I can buy a 2015 Duke 390 for less, however the Duke 200 was only available in Canada in 2020 I believe, so to be fair, lets compare it to a 2020 Duke 390...
I bought mine 2nd hand for a very cheap price. I don't want to buy a new one too
where did you buy your crush guard
Crazy Iron from Russia (years ago!)
this guy supposedly trains new riders but can not even operate a clutch properly? What a squid? just rode one of these bikes and didn't notice any difference between it and over a hundred of other bikes I have ridden. Clutch action is actually quite nice as it typical of KTMs
Lawerence I have 50 bikes and this one stalls the easiest. When training new riders having the bikes with the easiest clutches helps a lot. The KTM was fine for more experienced riders but harder for newer riders. I want to make the experience of learning to ride, the easiest it can be.
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Would this be to talk for a guy at 5'3 or 5'4
Depends on how long your legs are. If your in seam is 26in or 66cm you will be on your toes. However, motorcycle boots with a thicker sole will help a lot. It is a better bike for shorter riders. So is the Yamaha MT 03
I'm 5'4 and just picked up the 2022 model. My beta dirt bike sits at 35 inches so the duke feels really short to me. Loads of fun if you know how to feather the clutch and rip around town.
Im a 15 yr old girl that is very interested to get this one as my first bike to start learning. Is this still too big?
Nope! Great size for you. Just make sure you are tall enough. The seat height is a little high.
how much your CRASH GUARD SIR?
$533 Canadian dollars after tax and shipping
@@leeridefar oh thats too expensive i cant afford
The 2015 is better
They are powerful good machine's but not comfy
No. Definitely not an all day ride. But great for city short rides.
ive managed a 11 hour ride on mine and it wasnt as bad as i thought
how tall are you dude ?
189cm or 6’2”
@@leeridefar thanks )
I’m 191 , just starting and a bit worried if it’s not gonna be to small for me
The 390 was too slow for me so the 200 must really be a dog
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