Deuteronomy 18:9-12 New International Version Occult Practices 9 When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you.
Yep was going to comment this. Being "wrong" is a good thing to INTJs. We don't even see it as being wrong it's more like another piece of a puzzle being revealed to us
As long the person is making sense, I will gladly update the knowledge base. However, if they're saying nonsense, then it definitely irritates me. Ego isn't even important, I prefer to get the correct answer.
I'm an INTJ, I've never understood why people think INTJ's cant stand not being right. I guess in the sense that yeah I really dont like not being right. But on the fliip side of this, I'm very open to listening to other peoples opinions, if its logical and makes sense then I'll change my own opinion. I'm more intersted in the truth than being 'right'. I'd give up almost anything for the truth.
Dont get me wrong i like the occasional compliment Fine but Out loud in front of an audience and when you give an lecture nahhhhhh ive had this happening to me quiet a few times and in those instances theres nothing i want to do that to die,And keep it geniue dont tell white lies ,i can see throught that bullshit
Often done by people trying to manipulate you to either do something or to not do something. My fun is trying to figure out the underlying reason for their behaviour. 😂
I took a personality test, told me im an INTJ. I took it four more times, and it told me I was INTJ. I took some serious reflection, and I am definitely an INTJ.
You need to make a test from different sources and at variable times and in differents mood. If, you just make the same test over and over you will just biais yourself. Ps: get many sources, a lot of "tests" are just copy paste 2 put alarms at various time of the day and the week, like after lunch the we and on Monday morning. Then balance all of it. PPS: beware the mighy Barnum effect. Edit typo.
No. 2... bullshit. As an INTJ i seek after truth and efficiency. I am not often proven wrong on a factual basis, because i review from so many angles and directions prior to solidifying my opinion. There have been occasions that incoming information is wrong or changes and therefore given the new or previously unknown information I am happy to change my opinion or view. While this is extremely uncommon it does occur.
I tend to agree with this - I am an INTJ type, and although I hate playing into the stereotype, I will try my best not to. I don't believe that I "hate being wrong" or "will defend my view at all cost". I feel that if someone has an argument and they bring the facts, then I will be open to learn. But because I actually took the time and did the research, it's not going to be a quick win. They would need to actually structure an argument and change my mind. Truth and efficiency is ultimately the goal.
That requires further research. I will look into it. We do acknowledge valid points of opposition in our need to be correct. A narcissist can not. Not the same thing.
i’m an INTJ-T personality type. i am cold on the outside because i don’t want others (especially strangers) to take advantage my weaknesses. I do smile and laugh with people i truly trust and open up things with them. i am very sensitive as well but i show it to trustworthy people. 😅
@@RosaluhCantila not really, infj's are willing to be sensitive/empathetic to complete strangers even if they may not be perfectly comfortable in socialising. INTJ's on the other are (suprisingly) human beings with emotions, repressing said emotion demands that they must vent eventually. INTJs strategy to socialising is to be as reserved as possible until a reliable bond can be built before they can become open with a person. What the commentor described is in line-not against- being an INTj.
This feels more like the perception of the intj oddities than how we actually feel or approach issues. On the surface all these resonate, but some (like we must be right) are more about how we come off and not how we actually are. Yes, I am almost always sure my recommendations are the right path, but if someone brings something better to the table then great! I much prefer we make the right choice as opposed to winning an argument.
I wonder if this is something that changes as we grow older. When I was younger, I was absolutely mortified when someone corrected me about something. Either they were wrong, in which case - how dare they, or I was wrong, in which case - how could I have made such a stupid mistake? Either way I exploded with anger. These days I make a conscious effort to stay calm and rational in these moments as I realize that it isn't about me, flexing my skills and pampering my feelings, but about arriving at the best possible outcome. So I'll let others explain their point and try to really consider where they're coming from. And I no longer feel horrible if someone comes up with a better solution than I did.
Right like...I often enter a conversation and they think I'm coming in with all this personality and an agenda when my goal quite literally is to just to get both of us to the right answer that's most mutually beneficial, screw our feelings. I think it's because most everyone else they talk to is very selfish and going only for what they want and we throw them off by being neutral.
being a Senior Psych and Bio student (wanting to major into Neuroscience in the future), it's strange to witness and understand how the Myer-Briggs test can depict a person's personality so well. After having done it in class, i thought it was n more than a rough estimate that was fairly accurate but as i do more research i find out that 'holy crap, i really AM a INTJ', it's quite refreshing honestly. Refreshing in the sense that there's a unique label that can rationally explain one's personality instead of judging them or needing to complete multiple (what seem like riddled) conversations with someone just to find out what kind of dog they like and why.
The difficulties with the Myers-Briggs test pop up with people who fall closer to the middle than the edges. Then not only does the test not identify them well, the descriptions are not highly accurate, either. They are the people who can get different results on different days.
Same. I have been wondering why I have to use emojis "like a teenager". I mean, I'm in the middle of my 40ies, I try to make it make sense. My current working theory is that I know a) about my bluntness (which I see as "saying it in a neutral way" - but I keep getting informed that I'm wrong about that) and b) the general difficulties of written language which doesn't transport non-verbal communication. So, I think my overuse of (mostly) smiley emojis are a safeguarding measure to inform people that I mean well and can be reasoned with if they don't like what I have to say. The reason I don't feel the need to post an emoji here might be that I imagine we're kind of on the same page here. You will know how to read and understand this. Plus I don't know you in real life, I don't have to make sure you don't hate me in the future...
As an INTJ, I really can relate with the privacy part. I really prefer privacy even when I am thinking like myself. Inclusion of others at that very time is really irritating for me. Sometimes I end up with outbursts of anger who trespasses my privacy.
These are correct, but I'd say that the second one is not precisely put. We are fine with being not right, but it's a matter of facts. When the wrong attitude of mine is corrected by facts, that's fine; when it's corrected just because, I'll be arguing for the truth. Facts don't care about our feelings
Well said, as an INTJ with a good balance of pragmatism and idealism, I'd love being corrected or being provided alternative ideas if there are legitimate reasons or facts behind it; it allows me to expand my vision and knowledge. But the reality is, the only people who can actually keep up with me in debates - or even regular conversations - and not come across as having a less capable brain (no offence) are almost always exclusively other INTJs.
Is this the reason why I get a mix of INFJ and INTJ? Cause I care for people's feelings and try to understand via how they are from what I know and basic human psychology. But also very critical. If someone is telling me something to do if it is flawed or wrong then I'll call that part out. Unless I'm completely out of my field of knowledge. If I don't know how to play the game then I don't play it at all.
I have a mix of both also. The F and the T are on a continuum. If you are testing as both, you may be seated in the middle of the continuum. As a result you will be able to draw on the T when you need to and the F when you need to. In an effort to "survive" my childhood, I needed to develop both the T and the F.
INTJs keep your bodies healthy, find love, especially with an introvert because they’re most understanding , we need all of you in the real world battle, we need your brains
Weird behaviour 2 is like SOOOOOO inaccurate. I don’t live in fu**ing fear of being wrong. Actually, being wrong helps me learns more and further enhances my thirst for knowledge. Even more than it already is.
I'm defenetely an INTJ, but I do smile. A lot. I'm a serene and "zen" person in general. The thing about rare rage outbursts is true, though (at times, enough is enough, and I get vicious in these cases).
As Intj i can say that all this it's very true. And I'm very little little tolerant with ignorance or stupidity of biggest part of people, Indeed often when I'm out with friends ecc i just sit in silence and think: I just don't give a damn about all these bullshits, i don't even understand how people can lose hours and hours talking about so useless things .. All the other points are true.
I totally agree with you, the only one I don’t agree with is that I am very picky. I’m really not picky, with food definitely not but with people and basically everything else is very true
Still 100% agree with you. I can’t stand people in my school most of the time. I would honestly just want to go sit on my own and not interact with anyone. They are all soo annoying and I’m sometimes frankly shocked at their stupidity in the most blunt of topics. I understand that I am not some 300IQ super genius and it’s impossible for me to be. Frankly I have made my few fair share and frankly stupid and idiotic mistakes in tests and things like that but the people in my school. Honestly they take stupidity to a whole new level!
One thing I really love about the myers briggs personality test is that if you identify as a certain personality type ; INTJ for example, but then you fail to coresspond with one of the positive personality traits now and again , you can always keep yourself in check and say one minute but I'm an INTJ, so I should react in the appropriate manner that fits the protoype! 😅
I don't know about other INTJs, but I have odd posture. Sometimes, people will think I have an arm injury, and it's because I bend my arm, while deep in thought. I feel divorced from my body.
I think the emoji makes sense in a way that INTJs are not as emotionally inept as others, and they also try to be more precise when it comes to wording, however, not every idea can be expressed verbally (such as emotions). And lo and behold, here comes the emojis that can describe what you feel without putting it into words
I feel somewhat awkward discussing this, haha. Some time ago, I came across this type of personality classification, which initially felt like just another horoscope to me. However, my curiosity got the best of me, and I decided to give it a try. That was three years ago, and almost by chance, I find myself taking the test again each year, and it still shows me as an INTJ. I had never really identified with anyone before, not even with fictional characters. But as I delved into the traits of this personality, I strangely found myself resonating with it. In a way, I feel a bit peculiar now because it seems like I've become a believer in the psychology version of horoscopes. 😅😅
You forgot to mention that the reason why people lose arguments with our personality type is because we do our due diligence and actually research everything so we can't be wrong... But when I do find out that I am wrong let me tell you how wrong you are about how I accept my being wrong I love being wrong because it means I get to learn something new but the only way you can prove that I'm wrong is with hard facts I want to accept it until there's hard facts!!
I always felt like I am alone. But after finding out my MBTI it dosen't feel bad anymore. Even if its rare atleast there are some people who are like me.
Okay all of it are on points 👍🏽 Good job. It's true that I use emoticons to show my emotions since I don't know how to show it in real life. Plus I always communicate via text, hence the use of emoticons. Few years ago I don't like using emoticons and people misunderstood my text as being rude so I tried to be a little bit friendlier by using the smiley 🙂
okay I got smth to share for number 4 of being suppressive of emotions.. This is obv true but how do I deal wd this? I'm always suppressing my emotions like always and I'm aware that its really unhealthy. It once even became a cause of depression so, I decided that I need to take care of myself. Expressing my emotions wasnt an option becz I'm not uncomfortable wd that. and I have to make sure to not suppress my emotions too much.. so what I'd do? every month or a 2 later, I go into a quiet empty room or even a bathroom. the let myself have a complete mental break down. After Im done with all my emotions out... I'm good. I literally feel so good. its a win win situation so if this can work wd u, u can try it too!
I hope it's not a stupid question but...how do you get yourself to have a mental break down? Like what do I have to do after going to an empty quiet room to let all the emotions out, if you know what I mean?
@@lavendermaiden_ I don't actually force myself to do it.. its just that there's always a day when I'm really stressed out and everyone is giving me a hard time.. that day I'm like okay uk.. instead of suppressing it, I'll take it out. And I do. while that happens, I get all these memories of the whole month and all the pain I suppresed.. thats how it comes out. I really dont force myself and that stressful moment just comes on its own. Sometimes 2 months later, sometimes a month later.. Yeah so I get what you mean... I'm not really sure about that part .. (just so uk, its not a stupid qs at all.. a good one actually which I have no answer to..)
@@Abyss777 First of all: thanks for answering. 🤗Second: Besides not having a directly answer to my question, it still made sense to me on how to start and what to do, after going to an empty room. So it was pretty helpful to me.
This is crap . An INTJ doesn’t mind being proven wrong if the facts support it. They are trying to find the most efficient solution and welcome input that supports this goal. They will readily jettison their solution is you can show them a better way. Obv this guy didn’t do enough homework before pooping out this vid.
The only issue I see in this video is that you seem to forget we are intuitive, you keep mentioning we lack intuition when in reality we have the N in there for a reason. I will see the logic and reason in everything, but we also pick up on a lot intuitively, that’s why people think we’re psychic. Because I’ll be like “oh this person is not acting how they usually do” or we’ll notice a specific behavior that demonstrates anxiety, sadness, ect… and tell when something is wrong, but we usually approach that with logic and reasoning. We also don’t like sharing unsolicited advice so we’ll keep that to ourselves and tread carefully.
#2 is complete BS...... we don't care who is right or wrong, but to come to a balance on who has the most logical and reasonable solution or argument. I will gladly back down and admit defeat if the other person provides references, facts or links towards their argument, if I don't believe them on their word then they are wrong as I like to provide links, facts and references with my argument if I need be. And yes, I dismiss feelings in an argument, feelings has no place in an argument IMO.
i totally disagree with #2. Idc whether i am wrong(though i hardly am regarding analysis), my main goal is to get the work done whether by myself or by anyone in the team. But i will only accept my defeat if it's a worthy competitor with better logic than mine.
This isn't weird behaviour, but mental health issues. Intjs tend to experience controlling, anxious, ezquizoid manners which affect the way we feel and, by extension, the way we think and work. I've always thought that everyone should take therapy, but now I'm talking particularly to intjs, specifically those ones with strong maladaptive daydreaming: GET IT TOGETHER, GET HELP, cause if you don't you're gonna LOOSE it. Yeah, ykwIm.
#1 is only partially correct. We don't expect perfection, but we do seek excellence, and if someone can't do what they said they could, we hate that. If they said they didn't know how to do something initially, but it is within their scope of responsibility, we expect you to learn how, or get help from the appropriate expert to complete your tasks within the project. We expect you to make the effort. We know that accidents happen, we try to minimize these, we can forgive accidents, but we don't forgive bad choices, or dishonesty. Also, yeah, we f***ing HATE micromanagement. We hate to be on the receiving end, and hate having to do it ourselves. It's insulting to us. #2, actually, we LOVE being proven wrong because that is how we learn, but you have to PROVE it beyond a shadow of a doubt. We don't really like arguments, but we love an honest debate because the goal isn't about who is right, but rather what is right. No mention of the death stare. Probably for the better.
I like compliments except they can be awkward. Sometimes, I get them for just doing what I was doing and I didn't think it was anything exceptional. Other times, I get complimented and I don't think what I did was worth the compliment. I don't mind being wrong *if* the person who is showing me I am wrong has a good argument to show me I am wrong. Most times, they don't.
Point 8... How is there a level of privacy that is insane?! Privacy is necessary, but not all utilize it 🤔. By not being private, people open themself to lots of emotional danger and character ruin, in some cases.
I can’t believe how true the secretive nature of an INTJ is. There was this secret meeting at school that few students participated in and if administrators found out we would get expelled probably. None of my friends knew about it at the time and when they saw me there one day they were shocked lol
Except for number 2, I find all the rest to be 100% accurate. Though even if we INTJ's dislike being wrong, if we are presented with facts and good arguments to prove us wrong we can accept it, and be humble about it, though I can assure you we INTJ's make sure this doesn't happen often since we put a lot of time and effort knowing our stuff first before even talking.
Huh... so this is why my partner acts this way. My partner gets angry often and does not like talking about his feelings. I'm an INFJ trying to understand an INTJ . I wonder if there is a way to help him be less angry and express his feelings more. I understand why he doesnt like compliments now. I guess I irritate him by being too chaotic sometimes ??
I'm finding a fair amount of flaws with this. While INTJs can be stubborn, we often find new information, even if it's contrary to our held beliefs, as stimulating and worth investigating. If an INTJ believed something for a long time and is proven wrong, they will research it to see if they're actually wrong, and if the facts confirm this, they reevaluate their position and change accordingly. This is also true with methods as discussed in number 3. If we've been doing something and there's a more efficient way to do so, we may need a bit of time to adjust, but if we see it truly is more efficient, we'll adopt it. Additionally, INTJs are VERY intuitive; it's our 1st function. Logic is a fall back and it supports our intuition. I feel this is better suited for ISTJs.
The need to be right thing is a little unfair, we just are right lol. I'll gladly accept that I'm wrong if shown to be wrong, because that means I learned something useful. But most people don't argue using logic they argue using feelings, as if that means something intelligible.
Totally agree with the person in the comments saying that #2 is wrong. The pursuit of truth and clarity are of the highest importance. I for one enjoy being corrected, as long as it's done respectfully. Ya... That bit about hating being wrong needs to be up ended. Accurate representation of all things; people's characters, facts of events etc. is of the highest importance on my list
This is my personality type according to a test my professor made us take. My ex used to say that he couldn't tell I was mad. And I hated all his friends because I didn't choose them and they are all on drugs Only thing is I never argue this got that wrong I simply act like anyone who irritates me doesn't exist. I will never interact with them again, I will block them, their phone number, and their email, if they block me first I instantly feel relief like "thank God I don't have to interact with them" seriously there is no getting mad. I'm just relieved that interaction is over.
I am an INTJ and can vouch for 8 of the 9 traits described. Disagree with 1 though - I think as an INTJ I have no qualms accepting I am wrong if someone can explain to me with a sound logic.
I have a lot of facial expressions in real life when there's people. When I'm with family or friends, I set a smile on default to stop looking like I'm angry. It works for me.
Number 2 completely wrong. INTJ's seek truth and are keen to be proven wrong if information helps them move closer to truth. I don't think you really understand INTJ's, you've just regurgitated what you've heard and misunderstood from elsewhere.
I prefer facts over opinion some people in my family say I base things off feelings, which is ironic when their judgement was based entirely off feelings, but I don't even care if I feel negative toward something because I will always choose the option that is bassed off logic, also they have no idea how little I actually cared.
#2 is a narcissistic trait, not INTJ. “That requires further research. I will look into it.” We do acknowledge valid points of opposition in our need to be correct. A narcissist can not. Not the same thing.
Addition: just because 2 people are INTJs, it doesn't mean they're gonna hit it off. They have similar personalities, but they're still 2 different people with different ideas, preferences, and interests.
The part about INTJs need to work independently because they can't tolerate the incompetence of others - that is so true for me. I am so freakin' incompetent - now i can understand why I'm so annoyed upon by those more competent than me 😅
This list strikes me as things that CAN be found in INTJs, but aren't necessarily. For example, the fact that we keep our emotions bottled up inside MIGHT result in some having angry outbursts, but I never have angry outbursts BECAUSE I keep any anger bottled up. If I do let off a little steam, I'll do it privately, either by complaining quietly to myself or performing a task that gets a little aggression out.
#2 I do appreciate corrections as long as it has been delievered in a respective manner and not base on a bias opinion. If so I will really argue my point 😂 So many people around me are really bias with their opinion and its also a pet peeve for me. 3. Another spot on! I thought it was odd that I cant enjoy what is mainstream to everyone. I don't appreciate social norms and I like things that are different. Like for instance I like reading psychological books rather than watching on tiktok. (Which i dont have on my phone) I also know what I want and I only let few people in my world. I have standard for people I let in my life. 4. The key factors 😭 I am known in class up to my work how quiet and nonchalant I am but honestly I talk a lot with the right group of people. Its just that Id rather not speak and end up offending them for being too direct. Our head would also often tell me to speak in positive manner which Im having a hard time to because my way of speaking is unfiltered and my tone (which is my natural tone but often misinterpreted by ppl who dont know me) I also gets frustrated when I cant put into work what I had in mind which makes me feel exhausted. Like simple sketching Or doing spreadsheet and not being able to figure our the right formula etc.
1. This is spot on for me! I always think why other people act the way they do. And I get really agitated when people do my pet peeves. When they do unlogical things. For instance, my coworkers would be too noisy and when called out they had the audacity to feel offended. Thats why im mot really close to my coworkers as I cant tolerate those immature behavior. I also get agitated easily when our new "Team head" micromanage every single thing we do. Our previous head (now resigned) would pass work to us and will trust that we will comply on or before due date. Which makes me happy hence I always submit my report before the said deadline. But now I dont even want to touch my spreadsheet. Makes me want to rebel and not follow whatever this new head wants from me. But its not right so I had to suck it up.
2) More bullshit. We don't mind being proven wrong, we actually need that, we actually look for people who can do it because it can save us worlds of time. And money, too. We do mind you dropping nonsense on us like a pigeon dumping on a parked car and then flying off before anyone gets a chance to show that you didn't know what you were talking about. We also mind terribly when you drop such drive-by nonsense and then prove yourself utterly incapable of supporting it, yet strut around as if you did. Beyond just infuriating, it's also cringe.
1) Bullshit. I know, that looks like it confirms your statement, but the thing is we get irritated with unsupportable or egregiously incomplete treatments of important topics. Likewise, if you are poorly prepared to confront that topic that's your fault, and yet you blame us for saying out loud that you're being a waste of our time. Fix that and you'll see us fix ourselves.
I think you are talking about very immature INTJs that are living in a house with overly pushy feeler types. I don't hate being proven wrong. I hate arguments. I love to be proven wrong if by proven wrong time, money, friendhips are saved or not put in jeopardy to begin with. Micro-management is something no one likes. I do hate to be taken out of my work flow state to be asked the same questions or asked for progress 15 minutes into something I told them would take at least 3 hours to accomplish.It wastes time. I am almost never angry about anything, ever. Even when my husband was trying to murder me in my sleep but I woke up for it, I just told him why he was a dumb sh... and what would be the consequences for him if it had worked, and why, and then went back to sleep. Getting in an angry knife fight would have helped nothing. I am productive, not angry.
Took the test three times over a span of a month and still had the same results .Even though I don't relate to some stuff I'm shifting my persona towards that path
9:02 one of my friends once put his hands around my arm when walking down the street I said "what you're doing makes me think you're gay and it makes me feel that way so it's very very weird and awkward to walk like this so please take your hand away this is not nice" Straight to his face, loudly then he never did that again, he's not going to be the same guy again 😂
I don't get easly angry, they obviously can't comprehend my way of thinking, they are not of my standard so, why to much tension bout it. They are naive
If we are provided with good enough evidence against points we try to prove, we will favor that accuracy over our own ego. Otherwise we look childish or immature.
As an INTJ, I'm unpleasantly surprised how well these resonate and confirm how others perceive us. I hear you on being quick to anger, irritation, annoyance and disappointment in others while resisting being told what to do, driving avoidance, solitude and privacy. Also I cling to rigid preferences, favouring my own ways not conforming to mediocre and underachieving norms. Finally, lost in intense thought I rarely smile and emotionally disconnect by my death stare and blunt, harsh and direct communications. Enlightening insights thanks
I am an INTJ, I can say this is bad, but I like being like this, kids please don't be like me it is not good if you want to have good connections with people
I find this not to be true. Actually, most people are annoyed that I have standards for myself that they cannot reach and that I do not expect them to reach. That's their problem. If someone has standards for me I tend to desire to, attain at least that level if not beyond and if I can't do it yet, I work toward it. As long as it is achievable. If I need to run faster, I run faster. If I need to sing better, I sing better. Positive cooperation must be a part of the process. Friendly competition is great. I feel others should try to reach the standards they admire and not tear down the people who are closer to them. The end.
I think there is an error in your section about INTJs being wrong and trying to convince someone every situation has two sides...they don't believe in two sides, they believe in their side. 😉
They actually have extroverted thinking so they're not so lost in their inner thoughts. In fact my intj wife tell stories about herself over and over and over. I mean the same stories
I have literally left multiple people at locations because they weren't ready after being told multiple times that I am preparing to leave. If you tell me you'll be ready in 5 minutes and you arent in 5 minutes, prepare yourself to walk.
This is extremely, extremely accurate in most areas and I am surprised to be so well understood. I will provide 2 corrections. #1 as an INTJ, I prioritise the truth over my own ego. I don’t care to admit that I am wrong instantly. And #2 INTJ’s are more intuitive than logically, technically. We use our intuitions to instantly scan our mental tensors of stored universal laws and facts, but it’s not even really a conscious process. For example, instead of logically thinking about a maths problem and working it out. I usually say it out loud a bunch of times until I know the exact answer or a very close-to-perfect analogy which will lead me directly to the right answer. I do this so I don’t have to consciously think very much. It’s a very subtle distinction, but we use our introverted intuition to solve things in this way, BEFORE we engage our external thinking. You can prove this by noticing that INTJ’s can work out complex problems in their head without speaking out loud, very seamlessly and reliably, despite the fact that we only have TE, not TI (external thinking, we need to talk out loud and hear our own speech, to create the loop necessary for actual, conscious, new logical thinking). Everyone can still do everything, but this is what makes INTJ’s very distinct in their preferred mode of being, compared with ISTJs (..ew 😉) INTPs and ENTJs 😊 We ‘intuit’, more than we ‘think’. We would prefer to study the laws of a topic and internalise them so that we don’t have to think to solve a future problem based on them; we prefer to solve it in advance and just use our intuition to recall. We’re also prone to type 1 errors and in extreme cases, magical thinking in this way. See, Josh Nash for an extreme example of this. 👍 To be clear, this
I’m glad you pointed this out, as this is the piece that makes INTJ such a rare personality type in my opinion: thinking/logic + intuition. I think, analyze, discern, and make determinations ALL the time. But I intuit almost as much. I don’t think I could separate the two functions.
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Deuteronomy 18:9-12
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Occult Practices
9 When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you.
#2 is wrong. INTJ prioritize accuracy over their own egos
Hear hear!
I am more interested in the truth and consensus via reason than trying to be right.
Yes, that will be an INTP
Yep was going to comment this. Being "wrong" is a good thing to INTJs. We don't even see it as being wrong it's more like another piece of a puzzle being revealed to us
As long the person is making sense, I will gladly update the knowledge base. However, if they're saying nonsense, then it definitely irritates me.
Ego isn't even important, I prefer to get the correct answer.
exactly, as an INTJ i would immediately change my thoughts about something if someone gives me logical and valid arguments on why i am wrong
Came for the ART in the thumbnail
Awesome!
Hihi that pose is funny 🤣
Same 😂😂
Yup, I was expecting funny dance and am disapointed...that boy thick!😂😂
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I'm an INTJ, I've never understood why people think INTJ's cant stand not being right. I guess in the sense that yeah I really dont like not being right. But on the fliip side of this, I'm very open to listening to other peoples opinions, if its logical and makes sense then I'll change my own opinion. I'm more intersted in the truth than being 'right'. I'd give up almost anything for the truth.
You’re not an INTJ
I am too and I agree, if it makes more logical sense I would hear them out
agreedd
100% - the truth is always more important than how I feel
right not always truth, but truth always right
"INTJs are not fans of receiving compliments" - I dont appreciate being called out😅
An extrovert tried to compliment me and the first thing I thought was, it's my job and I haven't done anything amazing. Stop talking, go away
@@wheredidileavemycell hahahha wow, i can related 🤣
Dont get me wrong i like the occasional compliment Fine but Out loud in front of an audience and when you give an lecture nahhhhhh ive had this happening to me quiet a few times and in those instances theres nothing i want to do that to die,And keep it geniue dont tell white lies ,i can see throught that bullshit
I felt this on a level of yep don't complement me please 😂😂😂😂
Often done by people trying to manipulate you to either do something or to not do something. My fun is trying to figure out the underlying reason for their behaviour.
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I took a personality test, told me im an INTJ. I took it four more times, and it told me I was INTJ. I took some serious reflection, and I am definitely an INTJ.
Intj always tests intj even when we cheat😂
@@cedriceric9730 is cognitive function accurate
Haha do you think you might be an INTJ maybe?
You need to make a test from different sources and at variable times and in differents mood.
If, you just make the same test over and over you will just biais yourself.
Ps: get many sources, a lot of "tests" are just copy paste
2 put alarms at various time of the day and the week, like after lunch the we and on Monday morning.
Then balance all of it.
PPS: beware the mighy Barnum effect.
Edit typo.
I had to take 4x just to make sure! Former ENTP 😂
No. 2... bullshit. As an INTJ i seek after truth and efficiency. I am not often proven wrong on a factual basis, because i review from so many angles and directions prior to solidifying my opinion. There have been occasions that incoming information is wrong or changes and therefore given the new or previously unknown information I am happy to change my opinion or view. While this is extremely uncommon it does occur.
Agreed, if it’s the truth I don’t care who’s right.
I tend to agree with this - I am an INTJ type, and although I hate playing into the stereotype, I will try my best not to. I don't believe that I "hate being wrong" or "will defend my view at all cost". I feel that if someone has an argument and they bring the facts, then I will be open to learn. But because I actually took the time and did the research, it's not going to be a quick win. They would need to actually structure an argument and change my mind. Truth and efficiency is ultimately the goal.
EXACTLY!!
Agreed! 2 and 3 were way off.
I saw your opinions your not even an intj
I don’t fully agree with #2. I have no problem being wrong as long as it’s backed by facts.
As an INTJ i cannot relate to the second point. We are never wrong 😂😂😂😂
Pov u r wrong that u r not wrong😢😂
I am also intj😂😂
Agreed, we are NEVER wrong, we always judge stuff with perfect logic and accuracy
@@iililmac6268nah. We know people are capable of making mistakes even if for us it isn’t often.
That requires further research. I will look into it. We do acknowledge valid points of opposition in our need to be correct. A narcissist can not. Not the same thing.
Agreed. It's not that INTJs can't stand not being right. It's that INTJs can't stand when others can't see they are right. 😉
i’m an INTJ-T personality type. i am cold on the outside because i don’t want others (especially strangers) to take advantage my weaknesses. I do smile and laugh with people i truly trust and open up things with them.
i am very sensitive as well but i show it to trustworthy people. 😅
Same here, everything you described depicts me too.
your not an INTJ your an INFJ
@@RosaluhCantila Some of us are pretty close to balancing thinking/feeling preferences. I, for one, lend slightly to thinking over feeling.
@@RosaluhCantila not really, infj's are willing to be sensitive/empathetic to complete strangers even if they may not be perfectly comfortable in socialising. INTJ's on the other are (suprisingly) human beings with emotions, repressing said emotion demands that they must vent eventually. INTJs strategy to socialising is to be as reserved as possible until a reliable bond can be built before they can become open with a person. What the commentor described is in line-not against- being an INTj.
Carry earplugs to avoid having to listen to inane chatter on the bus.
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This feels more like the perception of the intj oddities than how we actually feel or approach issues. On the surface all these resonate, but some (like we must be right) are more about how we come off and not how we actually are. Yes, I am almost always sure my recommendations are the right path, but if someone brings something better to the table then great! I much prefer we make the right choice as opposed to winning an argument.
Interesting comment!
I wonder if this is something that changes as we grow older. When I was younger, I was absolutely mortified when someone corrected me about something. Either they were wrong, in which case - how dare they, or I was wrong, in which case - how could I have made such a stupid mistake? Either way I exploded with anger. These days I make a conscious effort to stay calm and rational in these moments as I realize that it isn't about me, flexing my skills and pampering my feelings, but about arriving at the best possible outcome. So I'll let others explain their point and try to really consider where they're coming from. And I no longer feel horrible if someone comes up with a better solution than I did.
@@PsychologyRefresh Is correct, not just interesting, says this INTJ.
Absolutely! I would never choose my way or ignorance over a possible solution to a problem.
Right like...I often enter a conversation and they think I'm coming in with all this personality and an agenda when my goal quite literally is to just to get both of us to the right answer that's most mutually beneficial, screw our feelings. I think it's because most everyone else they talk to is very selfish and going only for what they want and we throw them off by being neutral.
being a Senior Psych and Bio student (wanting to major into Neuroscience in the future), it's strange to witness and understand how the Myer-Briggs test can depict a person's personality so well. After having done it in class, i thought it was n more than a rough estimate that was fairly accurate but as i do more research i find out that 'holy crap, i really AM a INTJ', it's quite refreshing honestly. Refreshing in the sense that there's a unique label that can rationally explain one's personality instead of judging them or needing to complete multiple (what seem like riddled) conversations with someone just to find out what kind of dog they like and why.
Interesting!
And if they don't like dogs???
The difficulties with the Myers-Briggs test pop up with people who fall closer to the middle than the edges. Then not only does the test not identify them well, the descriptions are not highly accurate, either. They are the people who can get different results on different days.
For an alleged INTJ, you're displaying a worrying lack of skepticism about the idea that this psychometric test can quantify your personality. 🤷
@@telquel7843 Sounds to me like he was pretty skeptical in the beginning but was convinced over time.
Im an intj, but im proud to say that ive worked on some of these issues and no longer have them.
Yeah - their something to be worked on to create a more holistic sense of self! It's healthy to challenge these tendencies.
Oh no as INTJ i actually do the emoji thing... I feel so stereotyped 😰
Why?
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Same. I have been wondering why I have to use emojis "like a teenager". I mean, I'm in the middle of my 40ies, I try to make it make sense. My current working theory is that I know a) about my bluntness (which I see as "saying it in a neutral way" - but I keep getting informed that I'm wrong about that) and b) the general difficulties of written language which doesn't transport non-verbal communication. So, I think my overuse of (mostly) smiley emojis are a safeguarding measure to inform people that I mean well and can be reasoned with if they don't like what I have to say.
The reason I don't feel the need to post an emoji here might be that I imagine we're kind of on the same page here. You will know how to read and understand this. Plus I don't know you in real life, I don't have to make sure you don't hate me in the future...
same lmao
As an INTP, I tend to do these a lot and I mean A LOT 😂
As an INTJ, I really can relate with the privacy part. I really prefer privacy even when I am thinking like myself. Inclusion of others at that very time is really irritating for me. Sometimes I end up with outbursts of anger who trespasses my privacy.
These are correct, but I'd say that the second one is not precisely put. We are fine with being not right, but it's a matter of facts. When the wrong attitude of mine is corrected by facts, that's fine; when it's corrected just because, I'll be arguing for the truth. Facts don't care about our feelings
Thanks for sharing!
Well said, as an INTJ with a good balance of pragmatism and idealism, I'd love being corrected or being provided alternative ideas if there are legitimate reasons or facts behind it; it allows me to expand my vision and knowledge.
But the reality is, the only people who can actually keep up with me in debates - or even regular conversations - and not come across as having a less capable brain (no offence) are almost always exclusively other INTJs.
Exactly 💯
The emoji thing made me laugh. I've often considered carrying around a stack of cards with emojis on them to hold up so people know how I'm feeling. 🤭
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If I don't use emojis in email one day, that's a hint that something went wrong with me. 😏
Is this the reason why I get a mix of INFJ and INTJ?
Cause I care for people's feelings and try to understand via how they are from what I know and basic human psychology. But also very critical. If someone is telling me something to do if it is flawed or wrong then I'll call that part out. Unless I'm completely out of my field of knowledge. If I don't know how to play the game then I don't play it at all.
Same T or F back and forth between the two when I take the test .
I have a mix of both also. The F and the T are on a continuum. If you are testing as both, you may be seated in the middle of the continuum. As a result you will be able to draw on the T when you need to and the F when you need to. In an effort to "survive" my childhood, I needed to develop both the T and the F.
As an INTJ, this was spot on. We are weird creatures lol
INTJs keep your bodies healthy, find love, especially with an introvert because they’re most understanding , we need all of you in the real world battle, we need your brains
Thanks I'll try but people are insufferable and idiotic i dont think i can find love 😂😂
Weird behaviour 2 is like SOOOOOO inaccurate. I don’t live in fu**ing fear of being wrong. Actually, being wrong helps me learns more and further enhances my thirst for knowledge. Even more than it already is.
I'm defenetely an INTJ, but I do smile. A lot. I'm a serene and "zen" person in general. The thing about rare rage outbursts is true, though (at times, enough is enough, and I get vicious in these cases).
As Intj i can say that all this it's very true.
And I'm very little little tolerant with ignorance or stupidity of biggest part of people, Indeed often when I'm out with friends ecc i just sit in silence and think: I just don't give a damn about all these bullshits, i don't even understand how people can lose hours and hours talking about so useless things ..
All the other points are true.
I totally agree with you, the only one I don’t agree with is that I am very picky. I’m really not picky, with food definitely not but with people and basically everything else is very true
Still 100% agree with you. I can’t stand people in my school most of the time. I would honestly just want to go sit on my own and not interact with anyone. They are all soo annoying and I’m sometimes frankly shocked at their stupidity in the most blunt of topics. I understand that I am not some 300IQ super genius and it’s impossible for me to be. Frankly I have made my few fair share and frankly stupid and idiotic mistakes in tests and things like that but the people in my school. Honestly they take stupidity to a whole new level!
Interesting insight!
Not into the Kardashiams, yes?
One thing I really love about the myers briggs personality test is that if you identify as a certain personality type ; INTJ for example, but then you fail to coresspond with one of the positive personality traits now and again , you can always keep yourself in check and say one minute but I'm an INTJ, so I should react in the appropriate manner that fits the protoype! 😅
literally how i think now lol
I don't know about other INTJs, but I have odd posture. Sometimes, people will think I have an arm injury, and it's because I bend my arm, while deep in thought. I feel divorced from my body.
I think the emoji makes sense in a way that INTJs are not as emotionally inept as others,
and they also try to be more precise when it comes to wording, however, not every idea can be expressed verbally (such as emotions). And lo and behold, here comes the emojis that can describe what you feel without putting it into words
I feel somewhat awkward discussing this, haha. Some time ago, I came across this type of personality classification, which initially felt like just another horoscope to me. However, my curiosity got the best of me, and I decided to give it a try. That was three years ago, and almost by chance, I find myself taking the test again each year, and it still shows me as an INTJ.
I had never really identified with anyone before, not even with fictional characters. But as I delved into the traits of this personality, I strangely found myself resonating with it.
In a way, I feel a bit peculiar now because it seems like I've become a believer in the psychology version of horoscopes. 😅😅
You forgot to mention that the reason why people lose arguments with our personality type is because we do our due diligence and actually research everything so we can't be wrong... But when I do find out that I am wrong let me tell you how wrong you are about how I accept my being wrong I love being wrong because it means I get to learn something new but the only way you can prove that I'm wrong is with hard facts I want to accept it until there's hard facts!!
Good point!
INTJs do not dislike being wrong. They dislike when others don't see that they are right... 😂
I always felt like I am alone. But after finding out my MBTI it dosen't feel bad anymore. Even if its rare atleast there are some people who are like me.
Okay all of it are on points 👍🏽 Good job. It's true that I use emoticons to show my emotions since I don't know how to show it in real life. Plus I always communicate via text, hence the use of emoticons. Few years ago I don't like using emoticons and people misunderstood my text as being rude so I tried to be a little bit friendlier by using the smiley 🙂
Same
Thanks for sharing!
As an INTJ, I never thought of doing what the guy is doing on the thumbnail. 😂
okay I got smth to share
for number 4 of being suppressive of emotions..
This is obv true but how do I deal wd this?
I'm always suppressing my emotions like always and I'm aware that its really unhealthy. It once even became a cause of depression
so, I decided that I need to take care of myself. Expressing my emotions wasnt an option becz I'm not uncomfortable wd that. and I have to make sure to not suppress my emotions too much.. so what I'd do?
every month or a 2 later, I go into a quiet empty room or even a bathroom. the let myself have a complete mental break down. After Im done with all my emotions out... I'm good. I literally feel so good. its a win win situation so if this can work wd u, u can try it too!
I hope it's not a stupid question but...how do you get yourself to have a mental break down? Like what do I have to do after going to an empty quiet room to let all the emotions out, if you know what I mean?
@@lavendermaiden_ I don't actually force myself to do it..
its just that there's always a day when I'm really stressed out and everyone is giving me a hard time.. that day I'm like okay uk.. instead of suppressing it, I'll take it out. And I do. while that happens, I get all these memories of the whole month and all the pain I suppresed.. thats how it comes out.
I really dont force myself and that stressful moment just comes on its own. Sometimes 2 months later, sometimes a month later..
Yeah so I get what you mean... I'm not really sure about that part ..
(just so uk, its not a stupid qs at all.. a good one actually which I have no answer to..)
@@Abyss777 First of all: thanks for answering. 🤗Second: Besides not having a directly answer to my question, it still made sense to me on how to start and what to do, after going to an empty room. So it was pretty helpful to me.
@@lavendermaiden_ thats good.. becz I dont think people know abt this or do this that I can just search it up or smth lmao..
anyway, glad I can help!
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This is crap . An INTJ doesn’t mind being proven wrong if the facts support it. They are trying to find the most efficient solution and welcome input that supports this goal. They will readily jettison their solution is you can show them a better way. Obv this guy didn’t do enough homework before pooping out this vid.
The only issue I see in this video is that you seem to forget we are intuitive, you keep mentioning we lack intuition when in reality we have the N in there for a reason. I will see the logic and reason in everything, but we also pick up on a lot intuitively, that’s why people think we’re psychic. Because I’ll be like “oh this person is not acting how they usually do” or we’ll notice a specific behavior that demonstrates anxiety, sadness, ect… and tell when something is wrong, but we usually approach that with logic and reasoning. We also don’t like sharing unsolicited advice so we’ll keep that to ourselves and tread carefully.
Interesting!
Infj here, I seem to partner well with intj's at work. It's like we're on the same wavelength, but still a little different.
I agree.
#2 is complete BS...... we don't care who is right or wrong, but to come to a balance on who has the most logical and reasonable solution or argument. I will gladly back down and admit defeat if the other person provides references, facts or links towards their argument, if I don't believe them on their word then they are wrong as I like to provide links, facts and references with my argument if I need be. And yes, I dismiss feelings in an argument, feelings has no place in an argument IMO.
i totally disagree with #2. Idc whether i am wrong(though i hardly am regarding analysis), my main goal is to get the work done whether by myself or by anyone in the team. But i will only accept my defeat if it's a worthy competitor with better logic than mine.
2 is way off. If you can justify your answer to prove me wrong, then I accept it and learn from my mistake. 2:24
Agreed
#2 is a lie. Facts over emotions always!
This isn't weird behaviour, but mental health issues. Intjs tend to experience controlling, anxious, ezquizoid manners which affect the way we feel and, by extension, the way we think and work. I've always thought that everyone should take therapy, but now I'm talking particularly to intjs, specifically those ones with strong maladaptive daydreaming: GET IT TOGETHER, GET HELP, cause if you don't you're gonna LOOSE it. Yeah, ykwIm.
Thats true
-INTJ
#1 is only partially correct. We don't expect perfection, but we do seek excellence, and if someone can't do what they said they could, we hate that. If they said they didn't know how to do something initially, but it is within their scope of responsibility, we expect you to learn how, or get help from the appropriate expert to complete your tasks within the project. We expect you to make the effort. We know that accidents happen, we try to minimize these, we can forgive accidents, but we don't forgive bad choices, or dishonesty.
Also, yeah, we f***ing HATE micromanagement. We hate to be on the receiving end, and hate having to do it ourselves. It's insulting to us.
#2, actually, we LOVE being proven wrong because that is how we learn, but you have to PROVE it beyond a shadow of a doubt. We don't really like arguments, but we love an honest debate because the goal isn't about who is right, but rather what is right.
No mention of the death stare. Probably for the better.
Number fucking 7, THANK YOU. I hate getting ask if im upset everyday for this reason when in reality im perfectly okay.
it is scary how accurate this is
I like compliments except they can be awkward. Sometimes, I get them for just doing what I was doing and I didn't think it was anything exceptional. Other times, I get complimented and I don't think what I did was worth the compliment.
I don't mind being wrong *if* the person who is showing me I am wrong has a good argument to show me I am wrong. Most times, they don't.
Point 8... How is there a level of privacy that is insane?! Privacy is necessary, but not all utilize it 🤔. By not being private, people open themself to lots of emotional danger and character ruin, in some cases.
This was surprisingly accurate 😂
I can’t believe how true the secretive nature of an INTJ is. There was this secret meeting at school that few students participated in and if administrators found out we would get expelled probably. None of my friends knew about it at the time and when they saw me there one day they were shocked lol
The Illuminati are all INTJs, FACT
Such a stereotyped video bruh
Why?
Yes very 😂😂
Except for number 2, I find all the rest to be 100% accurate. Though even if we INTJ's dislike being wrong, if we are presented with facts and good arguments to prove us wrong we can accept it, and be humble about it, though I can assure you we INTJ's make sure this doesn't happen often since we put a lot of time and effort knowing our stuff first before even talking.
Huh... so this is why my partner acts this way. My partner gets angry often and does not like talking about his feelings. I'm an INFJ trying to understand an INTJ . I wonder if there is a way to help him be less angry and express his feelings more. I understand why he doesnt like compliments now. I guess I irritate him by being too chaotic sometimes ??
Omg you actually look things up?? I have stupid people around me that don't even try to look up my traits at all... I'm going to dump them all.
#2 is wrong. As an INTJ, I will always honor facts and the truth no matter what.
I'm finding a fair amount of flaws with this. While INTJs can be stubborn, we often find new information, even if it's contrary to our held beliefs, as stimulating and worth investigating. If an INTJ believed something for a long time and is proven wrong, they will research it to see if they're actually wrong, and if the facts confirm this, they reevaluate their position and change accordingly. This is also true with methods as discussed in number 3. If we've been doing something and there's a more efficient way to do so, we may need a bit of time to adjust, but if we see it truly is more efficient, we'll adopt it. Additionally, INTJs are VERY intuitive; it's our 1st function. Logic is a fall back and it supports our intuition. I feel this is better suited for ISTJs.
Why would you present us all caked up like that? 😭
We INTJs are kind of cat people, and you guys want us to be dogs like you, a cat doing things or think like a dog, which is weird.
The need to be right thing is a little unfair, we just are right lol. I'll gladly accept that I'm wrong if shown to be wrong, because that means I learned something useful. But most people don't argue using logic they argue using feelings, as if that means something intelligible.
Totally agree with the person in the comments saying that #2 is wrong. The pursuit of truth and clarity are of the highest importance. I for one enjoy being corrected, as long as it's done respectfully. Ya... That bit about hating being wrong needs to be up ended. Accurate representation of all things; people's characters, facts of events etc. is of the highest importance on my list
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Number 2 is wrong. If I’m proven wrong, I’m happy to revise my view or strategy. INTJs want what’s true.
I do show emotion. I don’t have a poker face.
The problem is that others often interpret INTJ facial expressions as contempt, disgust, or irritation, as applicable.
As an INTJ I can say this is a good video!
Thank you!
This is my personality type according to a test my professor made us take. My ex used to say that he couldn't tell I was mad. And I hated all his friends because I didn't choose them and they are all on drugs Only thing is I never argue this got that wrong I simply act like anyone who irritates me doesn't exist. I will never interact with them again, I will block them, their phone number, and their email, if they block me first I instantly feel relief like "thank God I don't have to interact with them" seriously there is no getting mad. I'm just relieved that interaction is over.
7:40 Not secretive, just very private.
I am an INTJ and can vouch for 8 of the 9 traits described. Disagree with 1 though - I think as an INTJ I have no qualms accepting I am wrong if someone can explain to me with a sound logic.
#2 wrong. Sufficient facts and information proving there is a better solution than mine is all it takes.
I have a lot of facial expressions in real life when there's people. When I'm with family or friends, I set a smile on default to stop looking like I'm angry. It works for me.
Number 2 completely wrong. INTJ's seek truth and are keen to be proven wrong if information helps them move closer to truth. I don't think you really understand INTJ's, you've just regurgitated what you've heard and misunderstood from elsewhere.
I prefer facts over opinion some people in my family say I base things off feelings, which is ironic when their judgement was based entirely off feelings, but I don't even care if I feel negative toward something because I will always choose the option that is bassed off logic, also they have no idea how little I actually cared.
I'm an INTJ and other than Emoji which I never use, they are all me.
... including the seldom smile part ?
#2 is a narcissistic trait, not INTJ. “That requires further research. I will look into it.” We do acknowledge valid points of opposition in our need to be correct. A narcissist can not. Not the same thing.
INTJ here. This video is irritating.
Why?
#7 Why would I use emojis? I'm relying on the written word ;)
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As an intj it’s so true that I think this man is living in my house walls
There seems to be a strong overlap between INTJ and sigma males
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#2 is very wrong
Addition: just because 2 people are INTJs, it doesn't mean they're gonna hit it off. They have similar personalities, but they're still 2 different people with different ideas, preferences, and interests.
The part about INTJs need to work independently because they can't tolerate the incompetence of others - that is so true for me. I am so freakin' incompetent - now i can understand why I'm so annoyed upon by those more competent than me 😅
This list strikes me as things that CAN be found in INTJs, but aren't necessarily. For example, the fact that we keep our emotions bottled up inside MIGHT result in some having angry outbursts, but I never have angry outbursts BECAUSE I keep any anger bottled up. If I do let off a little steam, I'll do it privately, either by complaining quietly to myself or performing a task that gets a little aggression out.
Solid description of a young INTJ maybe?
#2 I do appreciate corrections as long as it has been delievered in a respective manner and not base on a bias opinion. If so I will really argue my point 😂 So many people around me are really bias with their opinion and its also a pet peeve for me.
3. Another spot on! I thought it was odd that I cant enjoy what is mainstream to everyone. I don't appreciate social norms and I like things that are different. Like for instance I like reading psychological books rather than watching on tiktok. (Which i dont have on my phone)
I also know what I want and I only let few people in my world. I have standard for people I let in my life.
4. The key factors 😭
I am known in class up to my work how quiet and nonchalant I am but honestly I talk a lot with the right group of people. Its just that Id rather not speak and end up offending them for being too direct. Our head would also often tell me to speak in positive manner which Im having a hard time to because my way of speaking is unfiltered and my tone (which is my natural tone but often misinterpreted by ppl who dont know me)
I also gets frustrated when I cant put into work what I had in mind which makes me feel exhausted.
Like simple sketching
Or doing spreadsheet and not being able to figure our the right formula etc.
1. This is spot on for me!
I always think why other people act the way they do. And I get really agitated when people do my pet peeves. When they do unlogical things. For instance, my coworkers would be too noisy and when called out they had the audacity to feel offended. Thats why im mot really close to my coworkers as I cant tolerate those immature behavior.
I also get agitated easily when our new "Team head" micromanage every single thing we do. Our previous head (now resigned) would pass work to us and will trust that we will comply on or before due date. Which makes me happy hence I always submit my report before the said deadline. But now I dont even want to touch my spreadsheet. Makes me want to rebel and not follow whatever this new head wants from me. But its not right so I had to suck it up.
2) More bullshit. We don't mind being proven wrong, we actually need that, we actually look for people who can do it because it can save us worlds of time. And money, too.
We do mind you dropping nonsense on us like a pigeon dumping on a parked car and then flying off before anyone gets a chance to show that you didn't know what you were talking about.
We also mind terribly when you drop such drive-by nonsense and then prove yourself utterly incapable of supporting it, yet strut around as if you did. Beyond just infuriating, it's also cringe.
1) Bullshit. I know, that looks like it confirms your statement, but the thing is we get irritated with unsupportable or egregiously incomplete treatments of important topics. Likewise, if you are poorly prepared to confront that topic that's your fault, and yet you blame us for saying out loud that you're being a waste of our time. Fix that and you'll see us fix ourselves.
I think you are talking about very immature INTJs that are living in a house with overly pushy feeler types. I don't hate being proven wrong. I hate arguments. I love to be proven wrong if by proven wrong time, money, friendhips are saved or not put in jeopardy to begin with. Micro-management is something no one likes. I do hate to be taken out of my work flow state to be asked the same questions or asked for progress 15 minutes into something I told them would take at least 3 hours to accomplish.It wastes time. I am almost never angry about anything, ever. Even when my husband was trying to murder me in my sleep but I woke up for it, I just told him why he was a dumb sh... and what would be the consequences for him if it had worked, and why, and then went back to sleep. Getting in an angry knife fight would have helped nothing. I am productive, not angry.
Took the test three times over a span of a month and still had the same results .Even though I don't relate to some stuff I'm shifting my persona towards that path
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one of my friends once put his hands around my arm when walking down the street I said
"what you're doing makes me think you're gay and it makes me feel that way so it's very very weird and awkward to walk like this
so please take your hand away this is not nice"
Straight to his face, loudly
then he never did that again, he's not going to be the same guy again 😂
I don't get easly angry, they obviously can't comprehend my way of thinking, they are not of my standard so, why to much tension bout it. They are naive
If we are provided with good enough evidence against points we try to prove, we will favor that accuracy over our own ego. Otherwise we look childish or immature.
As an INTJ, I'm unpleasantly surprised how well these resonate and confirm how others perceive us. I hear you on being quick to anger, irritation, annoyance and disappointment in others while resisting being told what to do, driving avoidance, solitude and privacy. Also I cling to rigid preferences, favouring my own ways not conforming to mediocre and underachieving norms. Finally, lost in intense thought I rarely smile and emotionally disconnect by my death stare and blunt, harsh and direct communications. Enlightening insights thanks
I am an INTJ, I can say this is bad, but I like being like this, kids please don't be like me it is not good if you want to have good connections with people
As an INTJ I dot agree with many of these points. But I would say that wouldn’t I? 😆
Many INTJ's don't agree with most of this list......
1# « INTJ s become easily irritated »
Me : WHAT F*ck you Im the calmest person there is !!!
I find this not to be true. Actually, most people are annoyed that I have standards for myself that they cannot reach and that I do not expect them to reach. That's their problem. If someone has standards for me I tend to desire to, attain at least that level if not beyond and if I can't do it yet, I work toward it. As long as it is achievable. If I need to run faster, I run faster. If I need to sing better, I sing better. Positive cooperation must be a part of the process. Friendly competition is great. I feel others should try to reach the standards they admire and not tear down the people who are closer to them. The end.
My Intj friend won the online debate against me me Enfp debating him about Star Wars and Assassins Creed
( I am not a fan I’m a casual)
I think there is an error in your section about INTJs being wrong and trying to convince someone every situation has two sides...they don't believe in two sides, they believe in their side. 😉
They actually have extroverted thinking so they're not so lost in their inner thoughts. In fact my intj wife tell stories about herself over and over and over. I mean the same stories
I have literally left multiple people at locations because they weren't ready after being told multiple times that I am preparing to leave. If you tell me you'll be ready in 5 minutes and you arent in 5 minutes, prepare yourself to walk.
This is extremely, extremely accurate in most areas and I am surprised to be so well understood.
I will provide 2 corrections.
#1 as an INTJ, I prioritise the truth over my own ego. I don’t care to admit that I am wrong instantly.
And
#2 INTJ’s are more intuitive than logically, technically.
We use our intuitions to instantly scan our mental tensors of stored universal laws and facts, but it’s not even really a conscious process. For example, instead of logically thinking about a maths problem and working it out. I usually say it out loud a bunch of times until I know the exact answer or a very close-to-perfect analogy which will lead me directly to the right answer. I do this so I don’t have to consciously think very much. It’s a very subtle distinction, but we use our introverted intuition to solve things in this way, BEFORE we engage our external thinking. You can prove this by noticing that INTJ’s can work out complex problems in their head without speaking out loud, very seamlessly and reliably, despite the fact that we only have TE, not TI (external thinking, we need to talk out loud and hear our own speech, to create the loop necessary for actual, conscious, new logical thinking).
Everyone can still do everything, but this is what makes INTJ’s very distinct in their preferred mode of being, compared with ISTJs (..ew 😉) INTPs and ENTJs 😊
We ‘intuit’, more than we ‘think’.
We would prefer to study the laws of a topic and internalise them so that we don’t have to think to solve a future problem based on them; we prefer to solve it in advance and just use our intuition to recall.
We’re also prone to type 1 errors and in extreme cases, magical thinking in this way. See, Josh Nash for an extreme example of this. 👍
To be clear, this
I’m glad you pointed this out, as this is the piece that makes INTJ such a rare personality type in my opinion: thinking/logic + intuition.
I think, analyze, discern, and make determinations ALL the time. But I intuit almost as much. I don’t think I could separate the two functions.
Also I need more talking with myself more than others shshsh:)(:
Sounds like me but I am growing out of it by being a little more calmer and patient although I slip from time to time 😂😂😂