Mercedes Crank Case Ventilation Valve Replacement DIY
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DIY video on how to change your ventilation valve for your crankcase. Sometimes called the PCV (pressure controlled valve)
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Thanks for the great video. The local Euro "expert" mechanics wanted to charge 1.5 hours of shop time to replace this part. I had zero experience but still managed to I change it myself in only 30mins.
that time includes diag, paying the mechanic, and actual labor for replacement of the faulty part. having owned and worked in a few shops I can tell you that there is significant cost just to keep the lights on in a shop...if all shops just gave away labor out of convenience to every customer then no shop would ever be profitable. If you take it to a professional facility that is because you yourself cannot diagnose the issue. The facility of your choosing is paying multi thousand dollar subscriptions for parts catalogs and repair info specific to your car. Not to mention the tens of thousands of dollars required to buy the proprietary diagnostic scanner for mercedes. buying a high end luxury euro car then complaining about cost seems self inflicted to me. I hope you maintain this same energy when you have to troubleshoot something that takes more than 3 bolts and a youtube tutorial to replace.
@@rustyshackleford516 The mechanic had already reported and diagnosed the problem during a service, so that time had already been paid for. The quoted 1.5 hours was purely to do what I did in 30 mins with no prior experience. And I don't need a multi thousand dollar parts catalogue when I have Google. I understand that a work shop has lots of overheads but why should I pay for 1.5 hours at a high hourly rate when I can do it myself in 30 mins? Unless I am also paying for the mechanic's time to watch TH-cam videos to learn how to do it?
Your videos are super amazing and informative. While my mechanic was working on my manifold, when he detached the mass airflow sensor he noticed oil on the housing( the hose that connects the pcv and further more into the case of the airflow) and he is of the opinion my engine is wearing gradually. I would like to believe contrary to his opinion, its the pcv valve that needs replacement. Especially now that i just came across your video on that. I noticed also that on the pcv valve, presence of oil is much and so i feel strongly i need to replace it. I would appreciate your insight concerning this. Thanks a lot for helping out always. Much love
Hello, Ive clean my MAF and noticed the same thing, any updates?
Wow i was trying to figure out where this burning smell and smoke coming from. Thanks to your video I changed the crankcase valve myself and can only imagine what the dealer would've charged me. May God bless you my brother. Respect💯
cashrulez101 I left my c300 2015 at Mercedes yesterday and today they called me. They want to charge me 3,5k to replace it.
mine was about $180 at a local Mb shop
@@walberguedes dude it’s a fucking crime there pieces of shit
I was just told by MB of Draper UT my valve needed replacement. They said MB covers the part and replacement in an 'extended manufactures' warranty as this is a common problem. They also said the item is on back order across the country. 2016 MB C300. I was told without the extended manufactures warranty the cost would be around 1,800.
Thank you so much for sharing this video and so precise instructions. My car is a S550 model, exact same configuration for this ventilation PVC piece. The screws were Torx though (2011 model W221), but with the right socket, and specially, with knowing what to expect because of your instructional video, I was able to successfully replace it. As you state, with time and temperature fluctuations, the gasket degrades and allows oil to leak out. That was the case with my car. The mechanic wanted $225 plus MB original part $95, I completely understand they have to charge for their labor, and they have a lot of overhead, but this alternative sounded more reasonable to me.
Thanks a million for the video...
discovered the leak and also discovered that due to this part worn out, it had caused the intake flaps stuck and cuased serious damage to the butterfly liver which is made of plastic. The error codes I got were related to the flaps are stuck to the open position, self adaptation of mixture error codes in both banks , horrible vibrations during changing gears, rough idle, and caused the engine consume more petrol due to rich mixture. Had to get the whole manifold out just to replace the liver. Just got the new PCV, letting the engine cool off before I replace it... great video... cheers.
Glad the videos are helping you. Good luck with the rest of your repairs. Let me know how it goes.
@@iRepairAutos job done.made a great difference.. appreciate if you can make another video to show how to readjust the fuel pressure to the theoretical limits if the mixture is too rich. Is adjusted by DAS star Diagnostic or just some valves in under the hood? Videos just show how the pressure is measured but haven't seen any on how to recalibrate. Thanks.
You need to install a oil catch can. Leaks from this PVC cover is not the reason for the intake manifold tumble flaps or you throttle butterfly flap to fail. Its from the oil fume that travels from this tube. The oil seperator that is behind the PVC cover didn't do the job enough causing fumes to go down the throttle and into the intake manifold which gums it up with sticky oil. The resolution from the poster is to install a oil catch can, which he showed on another video.
Just changed my caps with your help, will be doing this next. I like Rock Auto for parts but shop around In case there's a deal
Very nice video! I have a 2010 ML 350 with 104000 miles and i will be replacing this valve tomorrow along with a LOF service etc.
Great video. I came out today to find a burning smell oil under that area. Was expecting it to be a major $$$ repair but springily it's only $100 and that also includes the 3 plugs/caps that should be changed as well since they are right there. One of the caps you can see in your video after you replaced the breather assembly.
My mercedes needs a crank case valve replacement and the mechanic is quoting it at $3,000 with 10 hours of labor at $210 per hour and $400 for parts and misc. Based on this video, it looks like I am being way overcharged.
The reason it's so expensive to get done at a shop is because they have to replace the entire pcv assembly not just the valve. This takes undoing one of the engine mounts, and taking off your alternator and a/c compressor, just to replace.
Do it yourself or you will get had
9 hours sitting on his az
Great video, saved me time and money. Thanks! I didn’t have the Torx E10, and couldn’t find one locally, but my 8mm box end fit on there perfect.
Torx 10 (E10) is the correct size for removing the screws. You can also use a 5/16 wrench for the bottom screws. The process worked great on my 2008 C300 to replace this Oil Air Separator part. Just removed and replaced it using your video - did the Loctite too. Thanks!!
You can also install a oil catch can. Once I replace that on our GL320 cdi, a catch can is next on the project list. The hoses should also be replaced
Very informative and educational. So sorry 4 the cut on your hand. I appreciate your contributions. Thank u
Great video thanks for what you do to help so many folks out there. Would happen to have video on remove replacement of W251 mercedes rear SAM
dude youre my car DIY hero. saved me $700 i didnt know its this easy. the dealership made it sound so complicated thanks they charge $600 for labor . that was that blue gel you put in the screws and where can i get them
+Ishmael Beniga-Palis glad your saving money and doing it yourself. The blue stuff is loctite thread locker.
Bolt size is E10, but you can you use an 8mm or 5/16 12 point wrench to remove. I used the original bolts as the replacements are regular torx, and there is not much room for the upper bolt nearest the fender.
Excellent video. Chasing a lean code and have the oil dipstick tube popping out. Will look for oil in the intake.
Let me know what you find
Mate thank you for the great video you are a Legend 💪🫡,,
Wanna ask you my 08 w204 C220 it has 140ks always serviced by previous owner at Mercedes, I bought it year ago and last two days when I starts car no white smoke then when I drive it it start smokes while, no any kind of leaks all around engine nor under or front back I checked all except one place is on the diesel filter and on the the rubber hoses near it just fingers,, plz any advise ideas what cause white smoke ?
Many thanks
Matt
I change it today and was a lot of oil around.thanks for your advise.
Looks like there's enough room back there for a catch-can might be a good idea to preserve the inlet manifold. Great video
Replaced many of them. Never seen them crack or fall apart. The seal just leaks. It is known as the oil centrifuge cover. No regular service interval required. The " diaphragm " expands due to the tight fit onto the oil centrifuge. No lock tight needed on the bolts. Don't forget to remove the plug in the cover.
what about the centrifuge itself - does it need a replacement? Not an expensive part anyway.
Great job man, I was wondering how this worked. Getting ready to change mine. I am changing the throttle body and notice a lot of oil in the hose. Wonder what mine looks like. Just got the part in.
Awesome man Ya I saw a lil smoke coming from that area and freaked out. I did the 3 cam plugs while back but didn't do this. I heard these leak..Makes my heater stink too. Many thanks!
Thank you for your great efforts making this helpful video. God bless you.
@Cody Rudy I'll check it out.
Thanks for the tip.
Stay safe.
Ordered both parts....We bought a GL450 last year..and during the inspection, they noted the p0016 and the runner flap was stuck in the on position. We had a new intake manifold installed...and the inspection noted the oil separator cover needed replaced. We hadn't done it yet..but we have been smelling, sporadically, an awful burning smell when the car is on..not always but every once in a while. This video has almost confirmed this likely is the culprit...even though I've not installed the parts yet. Crossing fingers.
Hello, great videos; they/you have helped me complete a lot of my own repairs. So, thank you. I have two questions, 1) is it necessary to lube the O-ring when installing the new re-breather, 2) what have you found is the best tool for opening/releasing the various hose clamps found on different hoses connected to the motor?
I’m having one ordered so I can replace mine. Thank you for this video.
You are a genius.
Thanks for all your video's.
Great help sir I have a 2018 C300 my engine light is on take it to a mechanic he did a scan and said my PCV valve is clogged just wondering if this is the same thing he's talking about thanks for your help
Just an AMAZING talent for explaining..... SERIOUSLY THANK YOU!
Thanks Bro! Glad the videos are helping everyone.
what a great technics demonstrated on this video bro, what about the 2013 C250 4 cyl 4 doors pcv valve r/r?
Thanks man. The caps are actually camshaft's. 2 on each sides. :) Thought I'd participate and help.
Are they on the four cylinders too?
We have a 2018 cla250 4matic. Bought it new 2019. Chk engine light came on a few times. Dealership said it was crankshaft ventilation system that’s needs to be replaced. Not very old car..only now 16,000km
I have tried to change crankcase many times but had no luck unscrewing it. Tried all the bit size recommended in this video comments. Any suggestion?
Hey guys, Mercedes is saying we need the crankcase ventilation kit to be replaced which is 1,500 CAD. This part alone cost close to 42 cad. Do you think just replacing this valve is sufficient? They also want 1,500 for the labor! It looks easy enough to do here but I would get my mechanic to do it for a few bucks.
Hey Jason, just wondering how you ended up fixing the problem with your crankcase ventilation Valve?
Kieth, thanks for all of your videos man. I've got the 2002 W220 S430 Mercedes-Benz and I'm hearing a light gurgling sound from the air intake hole (without the cover on) and I want to know what it is and what to do about it. Videos say CCV, Oil separator, Oil drip pan/ PVC, "Re-breather" ...??? What do you think? This model doesn't seem to have the rebreather or the oil separator installed.... you mentioned In your videos.
make more videos about mercedez please.
Had that problem of leaks but good ol silicone solved the problem
Hello man, thanx for the exelent tip and video , i got e350, and got bad smell from exhaust and my car is eating oil , do you think its pcv valve ?
I have a 2006 v6 with 25000 Kms a small puff of smoke occasionally when I start could this be the issue
Is this the fix for a p2422 code I got one recently on my c300 don’t know what it is
Great video...thanks for sharing. Did the old PCV throw a CEL (check engine light)?
Is this in the same location for a W213 E350e hybrid engine?
Important for Intake manifold flap maintenance Excellent point!!!!
Glad it helped. Changing this part will avoid costly repairs of the air intake manifold down the road.
You need to do much more. Oil catch can.. Look that up.
Here just to update I smelled smoke in car for a while and finally had this replaced. Purchased it online and paid $100 local mechanic.
Sir, I have a GLC 200 4 matic 2018. What is the part number I need to fix the crankcase valve defect? I cant find it and your video is awesome. I subscribed! Thank you
My vent valve and the 3 plugs are leaking bad. They were fine till I got an oil change and started to leak soon after. I recalled giving my mechanic 2 x 5 qt. cans of Mobil1 0W-40 and he telling me that he put all of it in. I did some research on the net and found out that the engine only takes about 9 qts. Regardless, I changed the 3 x plugs but the oil still leaks. I will now be replacing the vent valve but am afraid that it won't fix the problem either. If the oil still leaks, do you think I should ask my mechanic to remove 1 qt. from the engine?
+Sumit Bhasin too much oil. The pressure is as a result too much. Measure your Olli eith the dip stick. I would drain the oil and put back in the correct amount. You are causing damage to your engine otherwise.
PCV in training is referred to as positive crankcase ventilation
Does it make a whistling sound when it goes bad?
Excellent. I have a small leak of oil in my cls 500. This or the caps could be the problem Thanks.
Hi mate thanks for your video how oily is it normal? could you tell me what is perfect breather has to be ? If i see some oil from the black pipe connect to the air intake after change the PCV is it normal because I have bought the pvc from E bay thanks
I have a 2017 metris passenger van, do you have any helpful tips on how to purchase the part and how to replace.
Dios lo bendiga amigo. Desde Puerto Rico 🇵🇷👍. Yo le cambié a mi ML 2011 esa pieza. La limpie le puse silicona nueva y como nuevo.😀. Se dañó a las 85,000 millas
Where can I purchase that piece the Mercedes dealership is telling me I have to purchase the whole kit to get that one piece
Also PCV is positive crankcase ventilation, not constant pressure something
Is it possible to spray intake manifold cleaner through that hose off that breather valve into intake manifold to help keep intake clean or will it do damage ?
Great videos thank you for the tips!!
It would help. My only concern would be if the MAF cleaner goes into the intake ports on the engine; It could cause damage if a lot is in there.
If you find that hose is oily and dirty. You have a problem already. Check poster other video where he explains this and a resolution to install a oil catch can. This is just a beginning of the issues that you are about to find out. This will lead you to the issue with the intake manifold (tumble flaps and actuator gumming up).
What are the symptoms to let you know it has to be changed
I have a 2015 c200 W205 Series. Can i get a link to buy this Crank case ventilation Valve. Want to make sure i find the exact one needed. PLEASE ASSIST.
the central seal/membrane was different. How did the new one enter into the shaft?
Push it on
Excellent video. Thanks
nice bloody hand for the ole appetite.. thanks
does my 1998 mb r129 have a crankcase rebreather valve??
Question.. i have 2003 c240 with M112 im cleaning breather covers/valve covers. Going to replace brittle hoses too. Ports on small breather covers are clogged. . This car has oil consumption issue amd and smoke at times. Some people say valve guide seals. Some are saying breather and cyl head oil returns gummed up. Have you come accross this in a benz?
May I ask what year is that Mercedes you're working on ?
I have 2017 c300. Is pcv located at the same place as yours ?
Excellent job
does anyone know where the crankcase breather is located on a Mercedes Vito W638 112 CDI . They say its located on the head ? before i pull eveything apart looking for it id like a idea
Hello hope all is well... I have a 2016 mercedes c300. I have engine light with code P052E. It says PCV Valve. Car drives fine and smooth id say, haven't really noticed changes.Will this be the fix for my code?
I have the same car and issue! What ended up happening?
Anything on the oil code problem and fix?
Still no luck at fixing it but car runs fine
Still have the same code and Engine light
@@johnedough did you ever get it fixed? Mine has same code
@@HELLO123456789D so I ended up having to replace it. He is right in the video as mine began breaking down and becoming brittle. Which in turn started to allowing oil to pass through slightly and causing it to burn. Ended up costing me around 1400 CAD including the labor. The part costs about 900 and is only available from Mercedes.
Get oil catch can it will prevent broken pieces to go to intake and damage engine
I have the same issue with this, but somehow the benz dealership they gave me a picture of the valve but it looks totally different. Is there a different type of valve with Cla 250? Great video and explanation!
It is most likely different for your model. Trust them further by giving them your vin number. It is 100% correct with the vin number.
I tried E8 torx head and 1/2” 6 point socket to remove the breather bolt. No luck at all. What is the bolt size?
Is this the same part for a GLA 250
I have been replaced it , many thanks to you .
Thanks for the repair video.
Always wondered what that piece was.
It's an important one. Don't overlook it. the diaphragm is designed to fit snugly around the breather port and as such wears out over time allowing oil to get into the air intake manifold which can cause failure of that part.
Mine is leaking oil like crazy and I have a long cranking issue. Do you think the two could be related?
If you have a bad Crank Case Ventilation valve, would it cause multiple misfires in cyl 1,2, and 3 ? I also feel I have no brake pressure when I first start the car. I have already replaced spark plugs, ignition coils, exhaust manifold, still getting misfires on cyl 1, 2 and 3.... ?
you have a vacuum leak. the brakes use engine vacuum to assist with pedal while car is running. Since you're having an issue with misfires and hard pedal I would look at the vacuum hose that connects to the brake booster. If all else fails I would take it to a qualified mechanic to be smoke tested and know for sure where your leak is coming from.
Great info in this video! The background music are great too!!
Thanks! I create music as a hobby and created that background track. Thanks for noticing it.
iRepair Autos do you have to drain out the oil or you can just do it like that gonna be my first time doing it
You do not need to drain out the oil. Let the vehicle sit for a few hours (overnight) so that the engine and oil is cool. Most of the oil will be sitting at the bottom of the engine in the oil pan.
hey i got 2016 benz c300 205 with around 50k and i dont see any oil leak on the ground or smell anything or hear anything wrong nore notice anything wrong with the car but had a check engine light come on like a month ago so i checked the gas cap first and it seems fine so i checked my oil and was time to change it so i changed the oil, the filter and the plugs and all went well and the car loved it also the check engine light went away ,but now its back a month later ..
the codes it p052e and it says to replace engine oil separator and parts required are pcv valve oil trap but under the code it says positive crankcase ventilation regulation valve performance ,now im like hum wth? so what part will fix the code / car ? the one in this vid or part crankcase ventilation LINE / OIL PEPARATOR ? because if its the second part then its suks bad to repair u gotta take alot of parts off and lift engine after engine mount are off and ya ?
Did you ever get it fixed? Mine is doing the exact same thing and would like to know if it fixed your problem
does failing crankshaft breather cause check engine light (obd2 code P0170,P0173)
should be P052E
Another excellent video, thank you! You're making a great channel.
Glad the channel is helping other Mercedes drivers and mechanics alike.
It certainly is. On another note, I don't know whether this would be within reach of home mechanics like me, but perhaps videos on the air suspension would be good additions to the channel. Sooner or later, these Mercedes air suspensions need servicing, such as replacements of the height rods, leveling sensors, and/or the air bags/springs themselves. Just a thought.Thanks again.
Is this what causes my car to have blowback pressure from oil cap ?
I changed the broken runner flap on the intake then a week after it starts smoking through the tail pipe. So i think the i need to change part ????
Did you have to remove the fuel pump first?!
Hi. you are excellent. i love your video i really learn a lot.
Hey man fantastic video ....I have a Merc S Class 2006 w221 , I have a leak somewhere for ages & cant identify problem cant see any visible leak , smoke coming out of exhaust, my mechanic just mentioned to me that it could be this part that your showing , any help will be really appreciated....Jonny
These are definitely problematic. They only leak when the engine is running. The oil drip on the exhaust pipes and smoke. It's easy to repair.
Can you make a video for changing out the temp sensor? I can't seem to find it and it noted somewhere on the right side of the throttle.
How tight are the screws? They feel like aluminum screws and I'm afraid not to over tighten them or they will snap.
Would this cause a p0455 code on my c300? I already changed my gas cap and 2 days later the engine light came back on.
Is the petrol engine has this??
Would this cause the oil to come out of the dipstick if the part was bad?
It usually goes through the weakest point. I’ve seen that but usually it goes right into the air intake manifold
@@iRepairAutos Okay. My friends 2.7 he says oil shoots out of the dipstick and I told him it's prob the oil level is too hight or it's an issue with the PCV.
Does the four 4 cylinder motor have this too?
Excellent job thank you
Thanks. Very helpful video.
How long does it take the oil to burn off the catalytic converter? I actually just replaced this on my C350 sport yesterday however it had been leaking for a prolonged period of time before that.
Did you find out how long it took for the oil to burn?
Why not changing the separator sitting on camshaft at the same time? Faulty separator is a main cause for oil to get into intake manifold. Which is even worse for both spark plugs and cathalytic converter.
Engine is not leaking if there is negative preassure inside the engine. If the preassure is positive and/or there are leaks - its time to measure compression and rebuild the engine instead of simple replacement of a plastic cover...
Had the code for this appear on my 2017 Mercedes CLA250, is the swap similar to this video for my vehicle you think? Do you know what the part numbers are?
Nathan Gauvin what was the code that you got?
Hey bro i have 2018 c300 and it is showing engine sign on it because mechanic said the pcv valve needs to be replaced and told me i will take around $ 1400 can you help me what should i do ??
I have a 2016 MB Metris, gasoline. The original failed and was replaced under warranty. Now the check engine light is on again and the code is again for the pcv valve. Is this video applicable to the metris as well? I have 25,000 miles on the Metris from day I bought new.
Similar. I haven't worked on a metris but the concept is the same.
common issue you guys can report this to the Deportment of Transportation as a safety issue to make Mercedes Benz to recall it. They will have to replace it for no charge. File complaint here
www.nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem#vehicle/incident-information
Can you change it while engine is hot?