I've been learning how to use Demon Form and I see it having 4 sort of build stages. First is just using it intermittently as a buff. Second is capping at 10 and sustaining using lowered life, flask, . Third is having enough regen to sustain 10 stacks. Fourth is uncapped with lots of regen to let stacks build up. Each is easier to gear for and lead nicely into each other. Your tip about being able to sustain through second wind recharges is really smart for timing that respec. Thanks for sharing the build and insight!
I never capped it and went straight to managing being on the verge of dying and using health flasks. Done this since unlocking the ascendancy. I die sometimes, but overall, I've been two or three shotting all bosses with the charge up bone spears and chaos dots on mobs. Been breezing through campaign and approaching the end of cruel now. Definitely playable uncapped from the get go if you don't mind managing flasks constantly lol
He mentions blasphemy and expanding its range, is it possible to run blasphemy while in demon form? If not, I don’t understand why you would run it at all.
@@SobrietyLord I see that, I just didn’t know how he turned it on. I did some googling in case anybody else runs into this, you have to run it on both weapon sets, then it will stay on in Demon form
Good stuff. Watching all these videos and implementing a lot. I also saw the ice armour tech, and tried it out and didn’t see it proc at all in two maps. Giving it up gives me more spirit to use the health regen stuff as well which I have found huge
@@emmanueltejano6246 CI won't work with demon form. The way the skill reads, you shift back to human form when you reach 1 hp. Since CI sets you to 1 hp, you can't enter demon form
great guide! running almost the same build, one thing i figured out is getting the AoE affix on sapphire's feels really nice for this build, it double dips with blasphemy/enfeeble but also hexblast and the contagion spread range, so it was a nice QoL for maps imo!
27:00 There's a node that gives 15% life recovery rate / 15% mana recovery rate, it's slightly less hp regen than resilient soul but the mana recovery rate is great for this build.
i took this build and adapted it into pyromancer's pact. Went pretty smoothly, i just did a more streamlined path to zealot and removed the mana nodes its pretty nice having infinite mana, zealot and eternal youth with 75% fire res solve the pact damage straight away. Besides the infinite mana, the other nice thing about it is the ignite node that comes after it. It makes all your damage count towards ignition. Makes Cast on Ignite feel like its the unnerfed version, another layer of damage for this whole thing. Granted im not using dots, just hexblast right now my pathing stopped at zealot, torn between keeping going over to the life regen nodes all the way down to the str section (theres almost 100% more regen there) or just getting more shield and more chaos damage in the int section
I don't get infinit mana part here. You will go over and take damage from Pact anyway since Hexblast is expensive even with 40% less cost gem. So how you deal with your Energy Shield getting nuked by your own casting? Also I don't really get how Eternal Youth is helping demon form. Please explain it to me like I am 10.
@@honestbenny eternal youth is not helping the demon form, that is covered by base regen Eternal youth + zealot is how you deal with the pact damage. The pact damages the shield, then you flask and because of Youth, it goes back up. But also it just regens naturally all the time constantly with zealot Basically you need a lot of regen for this to work, because zealot will be constantly regening your shield, but only if it can outheal the demon form drain, but it's easy to achieve if you spam regen jewels and flat regen like the build in the video is already doing and this last part is why Zealot is so good with pact. You are not really altering the build to use it, the resource is already just there for you to take your infinite mana without penalty, just add eternal youth into the mix for emergency to the shield. And you get to free up all the mana nodes and put everything into more shield and maybe more curse synergy
Have you tried Mind over Matter? I do understand that you might have problems with mana regen if you are using Hexblast, but you seem to just resort to cheaper skills, so Mana can be another life buffer for you in case of boss slams. It does feel a bit bad when you're losing mana to damage and can't cast, but that only happens if your ES is broken, so should be a natural fit for the build unless you're taking the Pact.
Absolute great work in this build. I like how you rebuild it every day more efficiently. Downside: lot of wiches swichting now, as you already said and life generation jewels with 15% getting expensive. But I got today lucky today and I could flip one jewel to get another 3 jewel with increased area of effect. Already though about to start a new wich just for testing how could the early which is with demonflame capped with 10 stacks. And to avoid getting the quest for max life.
oh boi i love playing demon form so much and i have done and bought fire witch elec witch build items chaos would b next and this is perfect thanks for sharing
Thanks for the build. I play hc and thought ming's / self damage etc might have been a bit too risky, but your survivablity with grim feast and es looks legit...
super cool video thanks. Do you have a leveling guide for it ? especially leveling tree, i suppose you take more chaos nodes early on and then respec them into ES ? Also why do you use mostly hexblast in the final map showcase over ED/contagion ? I really love the satisfying ED/contagion spread ^^
I hope the 3rd ascendancy for witch will be around chaos notes and minion notes. For this build I think the better choice would be going into spell crit as hexblast can do it and choosing blood mage which can make it easier to cap crit chance. The only problem with blood mage would be hp sustain.
I didn't even think about skipping the max life quest from campaign. On top of that i took attributes instead of chaos resistance. FML... On any other build it probably didn't matter but i decided to fuck up on the most stat specific build in the game. You mentioned that you lose 0.5% life per second which at 200life is a perfect 1 life per second. I have 226 life right now, does that have a large impact on my Life loss per second at higher demon flame? Thanks for posting this video btw. It's nice seeing so many different takes on the chaos demon. Yours imo is one of the most refined and impressive versions of the build for sure. Every aspect of your passive tree makes sense to me. Especially taking eternal youth and zealot's oath. Ty again, you literally saved me 10s of hours experimenting and suffering on my own Also, wanted to ask. If you had BIS jeweles all rolled with 2% max fire res. Is it possible to make use of Pyromantic Pact? It would solve all of our mana issues if possible
For what it's worth at least that first one only gives 20hp. That's essentially nothing after all the reductions. If you'd have 800HP before reductions, you'd have 820. That's a 10 hp difference after just a 50% chest piece and it only gets lower from there.
im so happy I bought 15% life regen rubys 4 days ago on a hunch you would go this way with your build. As of this video, they are now 1 divine each lol.
For the amulet do you think Titan's Determination allocation is better? While using hexblast you look like moving so it should work in theory and stun threshold looks better then recoup as life.
I was looking to switch from my minion infernalist but it feels like the amount of gear change is going to absolutely absurd, this build looks so damn cool though.
Very good and informative videos. I was thinking about the chaos nodes scaling thing, and question are you sure the "pure chaos" node doesn't scale on top of the scaling by demon form? It is worded as extra chaos damage.
Hi there nice guide! At what level we can switch into this build during the elveling part? Is it a EndGame buiòd or we can leveling with it? Thanks for your job!
Subscribing because I’m trying to run a similar build minus the demon form that includes using unearth to spawn 18+ minions with chaos that spread and skeletal snipers for poison clouds.
what am I doing wrong I can't get blasphemy aura on me in demon form it works in my normal form but in my demon, I only have despair and magnified effect?
hi doth this will be a dump question but i hope not, anyway i am following your build but i cant seem to get demon form to work is there a something i am do wrong plz help lol i am at a loss
Thanks for the guide! Any recommendations for leveling? I tried pure chaos on ssf but was really struggling with single target damage by the end of act 2.
Chaos spells arnt the strongest leveling strategy so maybe try a witch strat someone has put time into figuring out. If you want to commit to the chaos I used a scepter with minions for when I wasn't it demon form along with unearth, bone cage, chaos bolt (wand spell), essence drain, and contagion. For defence I just went full energy shield gear and on the tree
buy corpsewade boots, make sure you limit the level of the spell to your max usable level, itll make leveling much easier. as for bosses until you get hexblast and a 4L it's kind of a suffer, but its not too bad
I was doing chaos chalupa monk, I had the same problem against bosses (just not enough dps), I was able to beat act 2 boss by swapping to chaos bow for a bit and getting 50% lightening resistance. Posion arrow worked (yes I know chaos damage increase doesn't affect poison, but boosting the bows base chaos damage was enough), but doing gas arrow with toxic growth spam would've been better.
I've been trying to replicate some of the customization possible for witch from poe1 into poe2, but man it really feels like they're only pushing witch into either minions or contagion/hexblast. idk if its just like because of the EA, but it just doesn't feel as good imo.
Just level with minions (Arsonists + Raging Spirits from Flame Wall) and respec later, fastest and safest leveling for a witch. First ascendancy take a dog, don't spend second ascendancy before you switch to Ming's.
Question: How does one level on this? This really hyped me up to play this instead of Blood Mage Hexblast, but I'm having an utterly miserable time before getting the first Ascension and lvl 9 gems. I have the chest piece so that's the saving grace, I'm basically immortal, but the damage is really really lacking early on. Any tips on how to improve that aspect of the build? Thanks a lot!
Okay maybe I'm dumb but how do you have your curses up while in demon form? Am I missing something? I cant transform if I have blasphemy up. Im looking at you spam hexblast in demon form wondering how that works
Thanks man again you are a life saver. Now I can stay in the Demon form longer after choosing Master Darkness. I can’t thank you enough I was about to quit the game as I spend all my gold on this build thx again bro
Any particular reason you're taking those 2 minor ascend nodes instead of Beidats? Did you just not need extra spirit or does the reservation brick the regen build somehow? Or does the life reduction from items calculate prior to that node giving spirit per life?
I played with infinite demon form sustaining 100+ stacks since act 2 in campaign and it was awesome. Your issue is that you're playing a chaos piano button build, that's why it seemed difficult to you to sustain.
Nice work! What do you think about picking up some recoup on the tree? could that alleviate regen pressure? Or is it too unreliable? Also suggestion (and I know this is somewhat clucky), but since Dark Effigy has poison chance, how about linking Essence Drain with Drain Ailments? Or Minion Pact? The life loss on the hound should be minimal, for obvious reasons
Friend, greetings from Argentina. Sorry for my English... How did you get such a high amount of life regeneration? In the armor pieces you only get up to 80 or 100 points, no more... My character is level 60. Thank you very much for your videos!
@Doth_ wow! i didn't know that! i still haven't gotten those jewels! what other advice can you give me to increase my life regeneration? i still only have 22 haha... i'm in the process of leveling up but i still can't unlock my demon form beyond level 10 because i don't regenerate enough life. i have the armor and one of the rings you recommend. thanks a lot bro!
Hi i have a question, if you run double curse is there a certain pattern which curse gets removed ? Like can you have an active cast curse with 100% uptime and only remove the aura curse with hexblast?
Not exactly sure. I am sure though that it will calculate the chaos resistance reduction from despair if you remove it. I tested it. So what I did on my blasphemy spirit gem was put despair first, so hexblast would always remove it, and then enfeeble second so there would never be a moment of down time on enfeeble. Dont know if that exactly answers your question but that's all I know
I switched to spark and im doing way less dmg now the guide doesn’t seem up to date since your using fortress on flame wall on stream. Also what jewels are you using besides the life regen ones?
@Agileslol if you can't get to like 150 demon flame spark may feel less great. I have a new video out for spark. I only care about the life regen on jewels
So you were able to get 300 stacks…which is insane. Could copy paste the build set up for that stacks and run another skill that does more damage. Not sure what skill that would be? Without weapons it would be hard to run minions.
@@Doth_ apart from minions - pretty much impossible to run minion build with low life setup as you need either a weapon with high spirit or high life for asc 25% of life to spirit
No, not at all. Your stacks of demonform will just be lower but we're talking about min/max. Build is viable with questions hp it's just gonna allow a bit more damage.
I know you said not to, but I'm lvl 64, no additional attributes anywhere no life on gear, my hp is 194, in a few maps its going to go over 200 :( How bad is it? And how did you do it
I was wondering whether or not the +chaos % damage was additive or not. It didnt seem to do much. So it being additive makes sense. I'm in act 6 now and struggling with defenses as hexblast ed/cont blood mage
what works out for me perfectly is using a breach ring with 50% quality in life modifiers - my ring got over 30 life reg this way and amazing stats 15% all res and so on. Also took the max life to spirit node because the reserved life actually does reduce the max life and counts - this way you can take the spirit node to get extra spirit (for me i am at around 170) so I can take an extra aura with me
another question = why dont you use Corpsewalkers on maps? Yes, you lose some of your stats and max stacks of demon form, but your map clear will be insane
@RakSungBlik literally as much as possible without ruining your defenses. After like 150 stacks, more damage is unnecessary, but every second you get to stay at high stacks is $$$
@@Doth_ Yo so I was hoping you were live last night. I ran into something unique and I can't figure out wtf is going on...everytime I level up, I gain hp.. I had my hp at 202 at level 60 which was perfect. I could get 130 stacks before taking damage...now that my hp is 220, I can't get above 70 stacks lol...idk where the hp is coming from.
@@Doth_ I just got zealots last night. I'm hoping it helps me achieve higher stacks...other than that though, this build has been an absolute blast. I prefer fun over meta builds and this definitely fits the bill atm. I have an ice strike monk also but can't get away from demon ahah
Thank you for the video! I am a foreigner. I've watched your video 4 times, but the subtitles are not smooth, so it's hard to understand. How do I get past the stack of devil flames 100? I set my physical strength to 201 But it doesn't stack up Please give me an answer. Please help me 😭
how do you deal with all the mobs just killing the totem constantly or my aoes that i place just mobs run out it seem i waste so much mana casting for no damage.
the point of the totem is mostly for stronger mobs not trashmobs because trash dies so fast you dont even need the totem - so kill trash instant, place totem for rare / boss mob also helps
I'm doing this exact build but using ed contagion as supports. There is nothing we can do rn sadly, dots are in a weird spot in EA. Maybe when shadow gets added they will think ab dots like cold and chaos and rebalance these skills. Also demonform will 100% get gutted its too abusable lol.
@GE_Photon_Lord yeah they are definitely going to change demon form. It's too strong in the acts and there's nothing to do with it besides just build it like this.
@@Doth_ It's also locking you into building this es + low life character which hinders build creativity. Even her ascendancy tree is weird, cuz you took mastered darkness out and had no place to put 2 points ( like in another big node).
How does this build deal with chaos damage? it seems like it would quickly kill you out of nowhere with only 200 life. Also for the shield recharge, couldn't you just slot in that gem that instantly starts regen somewhere?
@@Doth_ My bad I hadn't read it well enough. I was thinking of the gem that instantly starts regen but it only does it if you're stunned while using the skill it supports
Thanks for answer Sir, how do you sustain spirit with 2nd curse and another question , how many HP regen at least you recommend to feel this build work well ? I have problem with 15% Jewel financing xD
How important is that I didn't pick the 25% mana regen from permanent buffs in the first run? Part of me wants to start new character, another part is that I'm old and I won't want to spend 10h re-leveling...
Demon form removes your weapons so if you have spirit on wep/shield you lose it. Likewise if your weps have stats that are enabling you wear other armor pieces.
I had the same issue but it was because I only had the buffs set on weapon set 1. Make sure to turn them on for both weapon sets and it should work fine after that
is this build nerfed? im playing infernalist and atm im stucked on 13t maps. Im playing minions but it stucked in closed maps. I wanna change my build now. this is perfect for me! but it is nerfed? thanks guys :D
So for me all persistant gems dont work in demon form. It reads "skill is not valid for this weapon set" for all my persistant gems including grim feast and withering presence. How do you get around that? All my spirit is from my self no weapons
This channel is criminally underrated.
I've been learning how to use Demon Form and I see it having 4 sort of build stages. First is just using it intermittently as a buff. Second is capping at 10 and sustaining using lowered life, flask, . Third is having enough regen to sustain 10 stacks. Fourth is uncapped with lots of regen to let stacks build up. Each is easier to gear for and lead nicely into each other.
Your tip about being able to sustain through second wind recharges is really smart for timing that respec. Thanks for sharing the build and insight!
I never capped it and went straight to managing being on the verge of dying and using health flasks. Done this since unlocking the ascendancy. I die sometimes, but overall, I've been two or three shotting all bosses with the charge up bone spears and chaos dots on mobs. Been breezing through campaign and approaching the end of cruel now. Definitely playable uncapped from the get go if you don't mind managing flasks constantly lol
He mentions blasphemy and expanding its range, is it possible to run blasphemy while in demon form? If not, I don’t understand why you would run it at all.
@@jontay4199 you can run blasphemy in demon form
@@SobrietyLord I see that, I just didn’t know how he turned it on. I did some googling in case anybody else runs into this, you have to run it on both weapon sets, then it will stay on in Demon form
@jontay4199 i never had two weapon sets even once during my witch playthrough, and I was using blasphemy, so I'm not sure what you mean
Good stuff. Watching all these videos and implementing a lot. I also saw the ice armour tech, and tried it out and didn’t see it proc at all in two maps. Giving it up gives me more spirit to use the health regen stuff as well which I have found huge
Uncapped DF builds seem to be the hardest and most tedious builds to get to work. Good work on getting it to this point!
Added Note for everyone playing this: Do not take the bosses in campaign that boost life, makes it easier to sustain demon form later :)
Ty. But if u choose bloodmage instead infernalist that is not correct right ?
@@benzoo4588 right, this is only for infernalist because of how demon form degen works.
Can I use chaos incantation to lower my hp?
@@emmanueltejano6246 CI won't work with demon form. The way the skill reads, you shift back to human form when you reach 1 hp. Since CI sets you to 1 hp, you can't enter demon form
i dont want to make another lock lol, how big of a deal is it if you took the quest hp rewards?
Big thank you for this guide it has helped me tons on my first play thru of POE. I have loved this game and this build has helped alot with it.
you can open your passive tree to pause the game then open your gem page to swap spirit reserves or other skills during a boss fight
@thomasevans-saine6121 pog strat. Ty
I’ve been following your last video and now you dropped this one? I just subscribed. Thanks for sharing!
great guide!
running almost the same build, one thing i figured out is getting the AoE affix on sapphire's feels really nice for this build, it double dips with blasphemy/enfeeble but also hexblast and the contagion spread range, so it was a nice QoL for maps imo!
I've been looking for this very same build, or something very similar to it. Thank you for creating and sharing.
27:00 There's a node that gives 15% life recovery rate / 15% mana recovery rate, it's slightly less hp regen than resilient soul but the mana recovery rate is great for this build.
what is that node called?
@@McDudes Full Recovery
Sick build man. Been loving the videos
i took this build and adapted it into pyromancer's pact. Went pretty smoothly, i just did a more streamlined path to zealot and removed the mana nodes
its pretty nice having infinite mana, zealot and eternal youth with 75% fire res solve the pact damage straight away.
Besides the infinite mana, the other nice thing about it is the ignite node that comes after it. It makes all your damage count towards ignition. Makes Cast on Ignite feel like its the unnerfed version, another layer of damage for this whole thing. Granted im not using dots, just hexblast
right now my pathing stopped at zealot, torn between keeping going over to the life regen nodes all the way down to the str section (theres almost 100% more regen there) or just getting more shield and more chaos damage in the int section
I don't get infinit mana part here. You will go over and take damage from Pact anyway since Hexblast is expensive even with 40% less cost gem.
So how you deal with your Energy Shield getting nuked by your own casting?
Also I don't really get how Eternal Youth is helping demon form. Please explain it to me like I am 10.
@@honestbenny eternal youth is not helping the demon form, that is covered by base regen
Eternal youth + zealot is how you deal with the pact damage. The pact damages the shield, then you flask and because of Youth, it goes back up. But also it just regens naturally all the time constantly with zealot
Basically you need a lot of regen for this to work, because zealot will be constantly regening your shield, but only if it can outheal the demon form drain, but it's easy to achieve if you spam regen jewels and flat regen like the build in the video is already doing
and this last part is why Zealot is so good with pact. You are not really altering the build to use it, the resource is already just there for you to take your infinite mana without penalty, just add eternal youth into the mix for emergency to the shield. And you get to free up all the mana nodes and put everything into more shield and maybe more curse synergy
I recently tried out the eye of the storm with withering touch its pretty decent for stacking max stacks of withered in . 5 seconds
Have you tried Mind over Matter? I do understand that you might have problems with mana regen if you are using Hexblast, but you seem to just resort to cheaper skills, so Mana can be another life buffer for you in case of boss slams.
It does feel a bit bad when you're losing mana to damage and can't cast, but that only happens if your ES is broken, so should be a natural fit for the build unless you're taking the Pact.
Absolute great work in this build. I like how you rebuild it every day more efficiently.
Downside: lot of wiches swichting now, as you already said and life generation jewels with 15% getting expensive.
But I got today lucky today and I could flip one jewel to get another 3 jewel with increased area of effect.
Already though about to start a new wich just for testing how could the early which is with demonflame capped with 10 stacks. And to avoid getting the quest for max life.
oh boi i love playing demon form so much and i have done and bought fire witch elec witch build items chaos would b next and this is perfect thanks for sharing
where exactly is all the regen coming from here? im just not seeing how you got to 200+
love the builds btw, was so excited to find this
Long way to go from me as far as leveling and grinding out some of the gems/gear but looking forward to a pure chaos build 👍 thanks!
This builds slaps! Got it going a little but super useful 👍
Thanks for the build. I play hc and thought ming's / self damage etc might have been a bit too risky, but your survivablity with grim feast and es looks legit...
@@zepagamer be very careful at the start of maps when you have no damage!
. ..that passive spec looks very clean!!
So how do you leveled this build?
Did you start with ED and Chaos spells or just fire wall with spark?
super cool video thanks. Do you have a leveling guide for it ? especially leveling tree, i suppose you take more chaos nodes early on and then respec them into ES ?
Also why do you use mostly hexblast in the final map showcase over ED/contagion ? I really love the satisfying ED/contagion spread ^^
I hope the 3rd ascendancy for witch will be around chaos notes and minion notes. For this build I think the better choice would be going into spell crit as hexblast can do it and choosing blood mage which can make it easier to cap crit chance. The only problem with blood mage would be hp sustain.
Demon Form is so cool. Hope they buff the chaos skills again!
Love your guide. Is there a way to use this build while leveling? It seems like a build you need to respec into later in the game with the gear etc
I didn't even think about skipping the max life quest from campaign. On top of that i took attributes instead of chaos resistance. FML... On any other build it probably didn't matter but i decided to fuck up on the most stat specific build in the game.
You mentioned that you lose 0.5% life per second which at 200life is a perfect 1 life per second. I have 226 life right now, does that have a large impact on my Life loss per second at higher demon flame?
Thanks for posting this video btw. It's nice seeing so many different takes on the chaos demon. Yours imo is one of the most refined and impressive versions of the build for sure. Every aspect of your passive tree makes sense to me. Especially taking eternal youth and zealot's oath. Ty again, you literally saved me 10s of hours experimenting and suffering on my own
Also, wanted to ask. If you had BIS jeweles all rolled with 2% max fire res. Is it possible to make use of Pyromantic Pact? It would solve all of our mana issues if possible
nope this would not work with the jewels, at least if you go for the adornt .. because you need blue (magic) jewels
@@Lagencie theres actually a video of a guy using pyromantic pact with 90% res. So i already know you don't know what youre talking about
For what it's worth at least that first one only gives 20hp. That's essentially nothing after all the reductions. If you'd have 800HP before reductions, you'd have 820. That's a 10 hp difference after just a 50% chest piece and it only gets lower from there.
Which quest is it that gives max life?
im so happy I bought 15% life regen rubys 4 days ago on a hunch you would go this way with your build.
As of this video, they are now 1 divine each lol.
Sorry for the question, but I'm a new player: how do you keep blasphemy while in demon form? For me it disappears when I activate the transformation.
main hand and off-hand items are disabled in demon form, thus you lose the 100 spirit from the scepter.
Hey cool video love to see some video of a build that i try making, wah do you think about time of need aura instead of artic armor ?
For the amulet do you think Titan's Determination allocation is better? While using hexblast you look like moving so it should work in theory and stun threshold looks better then recoup as life.
Could you bind your Spirit gems to main hand / off hand and utilize the weapon swap mechanic to switch between them?
Weapons are disabled in demon form
Demon form doesn’t get main or offhand slots. They get disabled the moment you transform
I was looking to switch from my minion infernalist but it feels like the amount of gear change is going to absolutely absurd, this build looks so damn cool though.
Hey sick build and well explained, can I make this worth if i took the quest HP rewards? Already have two witches lol dont wanna level again
it will work just fine. Not optimal but wont ruin it
Very good and informative videos. I was thinking about the chaos nodes scaling thing, and question are you sure the "pure chaos" node doesn't scale on top of the scaling by demon form? It is worded as extra chaos damage.
Yes but he took it out cus he gains so much of the same stat already from the rings
cool build!
Hi there nice guide! At what level we can switch into this build during the elveling part? Is it a EndGame buiòd or we can leveling with it? Thanks for your job!
U can level with ed and contagion. But this form is endgame.
Subscribing because I’m trying to run a similar build minus the demon form that includes using unearth to spawn 18+ minions with chaos that spread and skeletal snipers for poison clouds.
what am I doing wrong I can't get blasphemy aura on me in demon form it works in my normal form but in my demon, I only have despair and magnified effect?
Getting those rings now is super hard because people on the market went bonkers with prices
they went from 1 ex to 1 div over the night lol
can put impending doom and spell cascade in your blasphemy to eek out some more dmg
@@chunger9000 they don't work sadly
Oh thanks i wanted chaos build.
Sad i just made infernalist the DAY before patch.
Witch ascendancies are so complex to work around.
hi doth
this will be a dump question but i hope not, anyway i am following your build but i cant seem to get demon form to work is there a something i am do wrong plz help lol i am at a loss
Thanks for the guide! Any recommendations for leveling? I tried pure chaos on ssf but was really struggling with single target damage by the end of act 2.
Chaos spells arnt the strongest leveling strategy so maybe try a witch strat someone has put time into figuring out. If you want to commit to the chaos I used a scepter with minions for when I wasn't it demon form along with unearth, bone cage, chaos bolt (wand spell), essence drain, and contagion. For defence I just went full energy shield gear and on the tree
buy corpsewade boots, make sure you limit the level of the spell to your max usable level, itll make leveling much easier. as for bosses until you get hexblast and a 4L it's kind of a suffer, but its not too bad
did you use hexblast? ED Contaigon is pretty much all i needed a1-6 and for bosses hexblasting them away in no time
I was doing chaos chalupa monk, I had the same problem against bosses (just not enough dps), I was able to beat act 2 boss by swapping to chaos bow for a bit and getting 50% lightening resistance. Posion arrow worked (yes I know chaos damage increase doesn't affect poison, but boosting the bows base chaos damage was enough), but doing gas arrow with toxic growth spam would've been better.
I've been trying to replicate some of the customization possible for witch from poe1 into poe2, but man it really feels like they're only pushing witch into either minions or contagion/hexblast. idk if its just like because of the EA, but it just doesn't feel as good imo.
5:16 is something people miss. I got the first life upgrade before i knew what i was doing then i went to cruel. skipped the cruel one
contagion on lvl 1 ? and why not taking the chaos dmg nodes close to the beginning of the skill tree?
what do we think of altered flesh vs the doggo for survivability, i hear the dog dies alot , use nodes for minion hp do we?
@@BrotherSeany yeah I make the dog as tanky with support gems as possible. Not worth wasting passive points on him though
we need a leveling build before ascending if you have any recommendation.
Just follow the minion build on Maxroll. Very smooth campaign
Just level with minions (Arsonists + Raging Spirits from Flame Wall) and respec later, fastest and safest leveling for a witch. First ascendancy take a dog, don't spend second ascendancy before you switch to Ming's.
Hello! Can you test SRS+sacrifice and also decaying hex?
Question: How does one level on this? This really hyped me up to play this instead of Blood Mage Hexblast, but I'm having an utterly miserable time before getting the first Ascension and lvl 9 gems. I have the chest piece so that's the saving grace, I'm basically immortal, but the damage is really really lacking early on. Any tips on how to improve that aspect of the build?
Thanks a lot!
I played till the end of campaign with essence drain, totem and contagion, just take chaos dmg
@ that's very helpful, thanks. I'll prioritize the Chaos Damage nodes on the passive tree. I thought the Energy Shield ones were the priority, thanks!
Okay maybe I'm dumb but how do you have your curses up while in demon form? Am I missing something? I cant transform if I have blasphemy up. Im looking at you spam hexblast in demon form wondering how that works
Certain support gems will prevent the transformation, it will let you slot them and then prevent the transformation for anyone that see this
Thanks man again you are a life saver. Now I can stay in the Demon form longer after choosing Master Darkness. I can’t thank you enough I was about to quit the game as I spend all my gold on this build thx again bro
Any particular reason you're taking those 2 minor ascend nodes instead of Beidats? Did you just not need extra spirit or does the reservation brick the regen build somehow? Or does the life reduction from items calculate prior to that node giving spirit per life?
You're spot on with your last guess, so not worth taking Beidats.
thank you
I played with infinite demon form sustaining 100+ stacks since act 2 in campaign and it was awesome. Your issue is that you're playing a chaos piano button build, that's why it seemed difficult to you to sustain.
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Nice work!
What do you think about picking up some recoup on the tree? could that alleviate regen pressure? Or is it too unreliable?
Also suggestion (and I know this is somewhat clucky), but since Dark Effigy has poison chance, how about linking Essence Drain with Drain Ailments?
Or Minion Pact? The life loss on the hound should be minimal, for obvious reasons
Friend, greetings from Argentina. Sorry for my English... How did you get such a high amount of life regeneration? In the armor pieces you only get up to 80 or 100 points, no more... My character is level 60. Thank you very much for your videos!
@damianlopez8442 you can get jewels to put in your passive tree that have % life regen
@Doth_ wow! i didn't know that! i still haven't gotten those jewels! what other advice can you give me to increase my life regeneration? i still only have 22 haha... i'm in the process of leveling up but i still can't unlock my demon form beyond level 10 because i don't regenerate enough life. i have the armor and one of the rings you recommend. thanks a lot bro!
I don't really get how Zealoth's Oath and Eternal Youth is helping? Can someone explain how does it affect Demon Form?
You can socket Ritualistic Curse into blasphemy for free, along with magnified effect to get a very comfy curse radius
i have magnified effect on contagion but I never knew about ritualistic curse. Huge! Thank you!
np, im not 100% sure that it works, but it definitely feels like it does. really hard to measure though :D
100% sure it does not and also the wiki does state it supports the curses but not the blasphemy aura
@@Lagencie it works. I tested it. Youre just yapping
@@Doth_ based
Hi i have a question, if you run double curse is there a certain pattern which curse gets removed ?
Like can you have an active cast curse with 100% uptime and only remove the aura curse with hexblast?
Not exactly sure. I am sure though that it will calculate the chaos resistance reduction from despair if you remove it. I tested it. So what I did on my blasphemy spirit gem was put despair first, so hexblast would always remove it, and then enfeeble second so there would never be a moment of down time on enfeeble. Dont know if that exactly answers your question but that's all I know
@@Doth_ thanks for the info
I predicted that his biuld would be op from his poe 1 videos
yo. you need to try WASD moving with this build or gpad. its so much easy to play
I have a plan to change up how i move. I'm fine with mouse for now though.
dont sleep on controller
@saikikdosntexist if inventories didn't exist I'd try controller
I switched to spark and im doing way less dmg now the guide doesn’t seem up to date since your using fortress on flame wall on stream. Also what jewels are you using besides the life regen ones?
@Agileslol if you can't get to like 150 demon flame spark may feel less great. I have a new video out for spark. I only care about the life regen on jewels
So you were able to get 300 stacks…which is insane.
Could copy paste the build set up for that stacks and run another skill that does more damage. Not sure what skill that would be? Without weapons it would be hard to run minions.
yeah should work with any spell really
@@Doth_ apart from minions - pretty much impossible to run minion build with low life setup as you need either a weapon with high spirit or high life for asc 25% of life to spirit
Am i screwed if i got the max hp from the campaign? Wanting to switch to this from minion build
No, not at all. Your stacks of demonform will just be lower but we're talking about min/max. Build is viable with questions hp it's just gonna allow a bit more damage.
how can you stack up to 240 while i play hex and can only stack up to 120 and die. can you explain it to me?
Does the adorned diamond affect the life regen of the rubys?
Yeah if u doing it magic and corrupted
I know you said not to, but I'm lvl 64, no additional attributes anywhere no life on gear, my hp is 194, in a few maps its going to go over 200 :( How bad is it? And how did you do it
I was wondering whether or not the +chaos % damage was additive or not. It didnt seem to do much. So it being additive makes sense. I'm in act 6 now and struggling with defenses as hexblast ed/cont blood mage
I went all ES the whole campaign. Act 3 and 6 were most deadly to me for some reason too
@@Doth_ Yup. that seems the way to go. That's what I am doing on my cold sorc. The spell damage nodes seem like a trap lol
what works out for me perfectly is using a breach ring with 50% quality in life modifiers - my ring got over 30 life reg this way and amazing stats 15% all res and so on. Also took the max life to spirit node because the reserved life actually does reduce the max life and counts - this way you can take the spirit node to get extra spirit (for me i am at around 170) so I can take an extra aura with me
are you sure that node works with this?
@@alejandrohayling8381 yeah it decreases your max life in poe2, in poe1 it only reserved but didnt decrease
Can I play with demon form at lvl 20? I got the rings and the chest corrupted at 57% conversion
thats crazy you got them that early. Yeah you can play it but unless you have some energy shield gear id imagine you get 1 shot
Do we have any other reduce max life items? The ring is kinda force your hand into chaos build
just 3 unique body, ring , and amulet "Eye of Chayula
Gold Amulet"
the ring is good damage for other builds too
another question = why dont you use Corpsewalkers on maps? Yes, you lose some of your stats and max stacks of demon form, but your map clear will be insane
it wont work with demon form
+it's same as contagion, but for low dmgs build which isn't the case here
Doesn't getting Chaos Innoculation solve the life problem?
No, you cant activate Demon Form, had the same idea.
Whenever I cast my totem it takes me out of demon form and I have no idea why.
Perhaps you have that skill set to use weapon set 1.
how much health regen should we shoot for? 150-200? I get to about 80 or so stacks before I start losing health and at 103-110, I drop form.
@RakSungBlik literally as much as possible without ruining your defenses. After like 150 stacks, more damage is unnecessary, but every second you get to stay at high stacks is $$$
@@Doth_ Yo so I was hoping you were live last night. I ran into something unique and I can't figure out wtf is going on...everytime I level up, I gain hp.. I had my hp at 202 at level 60 which was perfect. I could get 130 stacks before taking damage...now that my hp is 220, I can't get above 70 stacks lol...idk where the hp is coming from.
@RakSungBlik i went from 200 > 203 I didn't notice but someone in chat said that leveling makes you gain hp :( tragic
@@Doth_ I just got zealots last night. I'm hoping it helps me achieve higher stacks...other than that though, this build has been an absolute blast. I prefer fun over meta builds and this definitely fits the bill atm. I have an ice strike monk also but can't get away from demon ahah
@RakSungBlik reread zealots oath. It just regens you ES with the life regen you already have
Can you tell me why you don't carry a weapon? Or what time period describes this?
@@TheOne-p5z demon form disables your weapons and stats on them
Thank you for the video!
I am a foreigner.
I've watched your video 4 times, but the subtitles are not smooth, so it's hard to understand.
How do I get past the stack of devil flames 100?
I set my physical strength to 201
But it doesn't stack up
Please give me an answer. Please help me 😭
oh.. i find it ! 'life recovery per second frome regeneration' is point? :D !!!????
@@H.p-ju9hw you need 200 hp and hp regen above 200.
how do you deal with all the mobs just killing the totem constantly or my aoes that i place just mobs run out it seem i waste so much mana casting for no damage.
I use a level 9 totem so it costs less mana. It might die faster but I don't really notice. Cast it away from enemies also if you wernt already
the point of the totem is mostly for stronger mobs not trashmobs because trash dies so fast you dont even need the totem - so kill trash instant, place totem for rare / boss mob also helps
@@Lagencie are u assuming I have hexblast?
Why tf are you here then ?
@lord461 exactly don't assume. Sorry I didn't get hexblast at the start of the game.
Sorry if I don't get it, I'm a noob on poe, but no weapons? or should we pick what we want?
demon form doesnt use weapons
I feel like I’m the only person using chain on essence drain. It’s spreads the damage so much easier
doesnt that one node on the tree work where your life is 1 and immune to chaos damage ?
No demon form sees you’re at 1 health and doesn’t allow you to even activate the ability
5:56 it states 20% in the ascendancy portion of the passive tree 👍
I'm doing this exact build but using ed contagion as supports. There is nothing we can do rn sadly, dots are in a weird spot in EA. Maybe when shadow gets added they will think ab dots like cold and chaos and rebalance these skills.
Also demonform will 100% get gutted its too abusable lol.
@GE_Photon_Lord yeah they are definitely going to change demon form. It's too strong in the acts and there's nothing to do with it besides just build it like this.
@@Doth_ It's also locking you into building this es + low life character which hinders build creativity. Even her ascendancy tree is weird, cuz you took mastered darkness out and had no place to put 2 points ( like in another big node).
I don't like the hexblast skill, can we replace it with something else?
1:00 contagion spread any debuff, dot or curse, even essence drain.
Please add your twich link under videos! :)
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How does this build deal with chaos damage? it seems like it would quickly kill you out of nowhere with only 200 life.
Also for the shield recharge, couldn't you just slot in that gem that instantly starts regen somewhere?
@@taa347 what gem
Chaos damage doesn't work like it did in PoE1. It doesn't ignore ES, it just deals double damage to ES.
@@Warchoon Oh that's sick
@@Doth_ My bad I hadn't read it well enough. I was thinking of the gem that instantly starts regen but it only does it if you're stunned while using the skill it supports
If u have blasphemy with 1 curse, how on showcase video of bossfight and clearing t16 u have 2 curses active at blasphemy ?
@@ColdFearPL I have 2 blasphemys
Thanks for answer Sir, how do you sustain spirit with 2nd curse and another question , how many HP regen at least you recommend to feel this build work well ? I have problem with 15% Jewel financing xD
@@ColdFearPL yeah i wish to know too. 2 curses + grim feast + artic
Doth thanks for deleting my comments xD
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How to level this build in early game?
How important is that I didn't pick the 25% mana regen from permanent buffs in the first run? Part of me wants to start new character, another part is that I'm old and I won't want to spend 10h re-leveling...
@@MrHEPBO3AH I didnt even complete the act 3 quest till a couple days ago so you can do without XD
How do you have 150 spirits given that DF only lets you have 100 from perma buffs?
@@MrHEPBO3AH amulet
my artic armor and blasphemy aura seems to toggle off when i go into demon form, how do you keep the persistent buffs when going into demon form?
Demon form removes your weapons so if you have spirit on wep/shield you lose it. Likewise if your weps have stats that are enabling you wear other armor pieces.
I had the same issue but it was because I only had the buffs set on weapon set 1. Make sure to turn them on for both weapon sets and it should work fine after that
Any time I try to use demon form with persistent like blasphemy it straight up says it's not avaliable.
@@robertfrench2754 i have the same fcking problem..
POG
is this build nerfed? im playing infernalist and atm im stucked on 13t maps. Im playing minions but it stucked in closed maps. I wanna change my build now. this is perfect for me! but it is nerfed? thanks guys :D
Would this work if I just took the node that set up to 1 and immune to chaos dmg ?
I think you cant because the demon form ends when you reach 1hp. So with that node you would not be able to use demon form.
with this node u cant use demon form, checked
I have the same exact gear and stat rolls as you but my hp is higher is there anything else your using to reduce your hp?
I have the same problem, did you manage to solve yours?
@@Matisu-usitma maybe you fought the mini boss in Ogham Manor that gives bonus flat hp in normal and 8% mx hp in cruel.
So for me all persistant gems dont work in demon form. It reads "skill is not valid for this weapon set" for all my persistant gems including grim feast and withering presence. How do you get around that? All my spirit is from my self no weapons
Not sure if this will work but try having demon form on both weapon skill bars?
@DezzyDylan no. Weapons dissappear in demon form