The same way the other hive gods get out: through their choice of sorrow. Since Eris was/is the Hive God of Vengeance, the way to summon her back will likely be for guardians to slay Hive in the name of vengeance. And it looks like Drifter will be more than happy to oblige. Of course, this might also be part of Oryx's plan. He's no Savathun but he's still cunning in his own right.
Probably because of her time as the God of Vengeance. We'll probably summon her back with Vengeance similar to how Oryx did when he killed Savathún and Xivu.
@@HERIOCLIZARD I don’t think that’s strictly necessary unless she dies a true death. If she has an ascendant Throne World, she should simply be able to cheat death outright.
I guess that it is similiar to Xivu, except she was cut off from it. Not sure she can return to it just by dying - without access to Black Terrace, she could die for good. Eris, however, was not cut off. She just lost her power. And never tried getting into her own Throne World. And now, we'll have to conjure her back with Vengeance, like Oryx did with Xivu (War) and Savathun (Deception).
Freekus morn is laughing her ass off it was creepy The va for drifter... That's fucking legendary... This season is gonna be heat. Im willing to bet this one might be the best season we get story wise We literally get a taken visual effect in that menu and in the mission in the dreaming city for slone. Give us a taken shader bungie .
she definitely considered the possibility since her brief foray into hive godhood but didn't want to click-clack herself in case she was wrong. Considering how even Toland has a tiny space to himself in the ascendant plane, Eris may have had one that she's been building ever since she started learning hive magic.
So basically this whole season is us bringing back eris from her throne world and probably accidentally bringing back oryx in the process considering the art they showed oryx somehow returning
whoever has the echo is probably the one who brought Oryx back but otherwise definitely. we'll empower Eris with vengeance again and she'll square up against Oryx
Hearing Drifter breakdown really got to me. All this time we've known him he's been a joker but gets the job done so hearing him cry made me tear up a bit. What a dark way to open the season, nice job Bungie.
He could get real at times. I occasionally go back to the sole Drifter tape in the EDZ. "...Right before the light went out in her tiny eyes, she whispered: 'I can't feel anything.' Yeah. I couldn't, either. That's all I got. Cut the tape."
On first watch I in game I thought she was back in the Antheneum or whatever that place was called, the hub area for Season of the Witch. It's too dark all around to really tell but watching it again here it doesn't seem toooooo similar but possibly? Maybe that place became her Throne world, or it was modeled after it?
Definitely a thrown world otherwise it doesnt make sense. She does use the sword logic as well and even though she gave up her power at the end of season of the witch she did still kill savathun. Anyone remeber when that one baron got a thrown world after him and his buddies killed cayde. Although if she went straight there I'd imagine that there may he a reason she is not hoing yo come straight back such as learning about what she can do and then maybe deciphering how to come back. Hmm i feel like we may have imaru or even savathun guest start to give us that tidbit of information. Either that or Drifter may mention that he knows how to get her back because he may also expect her to have a thrown world
remember how Oryx brought his sisters back in BoS? "I am war, and you conjured me back with war" "I am trickery, and you conjured me back with trickery" Eris is vengeance, so we just need to do the usual.
Oh shiz! Its her throne world! I totaly forgot! Death cant touch her anymore. But shes proberly stuck tho. That giddy laughter like her thinking oh wow im like a guradian again.
The lore is complicated but having a throne world means you can't really die unless you're killed inside of the throne world. It means that she is alive and well and we can "summon her back" and she is essentially immortal beyond even what the she could of had as a guardian.
I've got quotes from the Books of Sorrow, just know Oryx was called Auryx when these were written This is one of the worm gods explaining their magic to Oryx: You are no longer bound by causal closure. Your will defeats law. Kill a hundred of your children with a long blade, Auryx, and observe the change in the blade. Observe how the universe shrinks from you in terror. Your existence begins to define itself. Later, after Savathun kills Oryx: You are dead, young Auryx. Betrayed and murdered by your own sister, for the crime of mercy. [...] Your body is gone, but you have endured. Safe in the cyst universe created by your own might - your throne world. From this day forward, Auryx, you and your sisters will each survive death - so long as you aren’t killed in your own throne. That spells it out nicely, and if you want more here's XXI: an incision in its entirety since it shows just how industrious the Hive are with throne worlds: Sayeth AURYX, my siblings, our children are scattered across many moons, and we live in the cold dark between suns. What will we eat? How will we speak? SAVATHÛN said, Auryx my brother and king, I have studied the wounds cut by the Worm our God. Also I have studied the manner of your death and return. These two things are the same, for they are predicated on death and the passage through cut spaces. Let us practice the sword logic until we are sharp. We may then cut our own wounds and step through. But XIVU ARATH said, sister, I am already sharp, look, my sword cuts into another space. And she cut her way between moons through green fire and joyous screams. Three kingdoms grew swollen in the sword space. They were the gaze and glory of AURYX, the cunning and knowledge of SAVATHÛN, the triumph and brawn of XIVU ARATH. These kingdoms were created from the minds and worms of our lords. They were coterminous with all spaces consecrated by our Hive. Through these spaces passed speech and food, and all the moons were bound close. Sayeth AURYX, this is where I went when I died. Let us establish our thrones here. For I am Auryx the First Navigator and I shall chart death. And my throne shall be carved of osmium.
It’s been a years since I’ve played D2 someone run it by me is the Drifter in love with Eris or something? And also does she have her own Throne world?
They've been a thing since beyond light and yeag she got her throne world probably during the time she was a hive god or she got it when we killed crota
yes and yes, Drifter likes Eris since she's a fellow survivalist at any cost type of person, and Eris likes Drifter because he's not constantly wringing his hands over her going too far like the other protagonists. They started working on projects together in the lore and using pet names for each other over comms.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXxEris calling Drifter Rat and Drifter calling her Moondust or “my moonlight” which is super cute and more intimate just like Saint calling Osiris his Phoenix
No, she is laughing at the fact that she actually has a Throne World of her own even after giving up her powers when she severed Xivu from hers. To someone who is a bit of a Hive Fanatic like Eris, getting your own Throne World after that is funny because she is essentially dunking on the other Hive by being better at it than they are.
@@ParagonFury- I remember in season of the witch. Eris mentioned the possibility of her developing a throne world. But was not keen on testing that theory.
@@ParagonFury It makes sense: Toland, the Mindbender and Mara aren't Hive and they have throne worlds. The Hive may know how to craft them, but anyone versed in the Ascendant Plane could make one.
@@ParagonFuryI think she’s also laughing to herself because of the shit she went through with Toland and Eriana and the rest of their 6 man fireteam trying to take down Oryx the first time. While Toland is dead in the mortal plane, we still have one sided conversations with the mad Warlock when he makes himself known from his pocket dimension of the ascendant plane in the form of the taken blip wisp. Always thought since Taken king that it was Toland showing us Guardians the way through the ascendant plane in various ways
Thats what I thought because I missed season of the witch, I now know (after reading the replies) that she is probably in her throne world, and I now know that all hive gods get a throne world?...????? 😅
These are potentially interesting stories told in the most amateurish way possible. Eris, who has become more and more powerful over years, dies to an ad. Then, after 10 years, she removes her headband (which could have been cool) but does so in a stiff, short animation that lacks any timing, composition or visual ambition to make it a good scene.
fun fact : there are no french dialogue (might also be the case for other languages) they couldn't do the voices so you have just the subtitles. that's very bad bungie wtf
Gotta bring those new lights up to speed. Half of them only ever played King's fall, and never experienced all that was the Taken King. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in one way, but disagree in the other. Kind of a waste of time pointing that stuff out, and then getting angry about it.
@@That_One_Sunshine_Knight and you don't find that a little lazy? Do something for the trailer but use rehashed old scenes for the actual in-game cutscene?
@@zalla00 No, not really. It's serving as a simple means to just explain what the dreadnought is, why it's still there, and lead into us going back. I'm not gonna talk too much about time and resource management cause I'm not a director, but with the previous layoffs, all the negative criticism surrounding Bungie for the previous episode, and having to develop the probably doa game, Marathon... Yeah something tells me they're trying to keep this ball of glue tape and paper clips together with what little they have. So what if this minute long cut scene is a rehash with dialogue over it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Eris and Drifter are probably the only good things about the next disappointm-... episode. I'll just tune in sometimes on here ig, not playing that soulless chore simulator even if my life depends on it.
![Episode: Heresy Act 1 - Opening Cutscenes & Missions "Espial / Recce" [Destiny 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EbOZ0elH05E/mqdefault.jpg)
Dang dude watching drifter cry is a whole other level of pain. Usually hes a jokester but Jesus christ bungie went all out.
well his first lover is an agent of the nine his second was a hive god ...
@@thomasloyal4525
My man taste of women are tragic
@@thomasloyal4525 Dude's a real Casanova it seems lol
Biggest blunder is go to the main entrance and press enter apartments go upstairs and enter Eris Flat hence localization error.
Now that I think of it this is the first time we've seen Eris' eyes without the blindfold.
And as Eris, not Aiat
@@kristophersy773 Aiat isn't a name it is a declaration meaning 'that which is said, must be so'
@@Husker_XIIIAiat.
@@Husker_XIII I think he meant that it wasn't a very aiat thing of her to show us her eyes as her normal self (I think)
@@Acrm-rn9mw You underestimate how bad some people are with lore
Damn Drifter's VA really cooked for these scenes.
That no was on Jesse Pinkam levels
Yeah, he put his whole todd haberkussy into it tbh
Todd Haberkorn is goated
Mr. Reca when his pet memokeeper frog dies.
Mf he just said a couple of words
"I have a throne world!" ... "How do I get out of here?"
Traditionally, you wait for the Guardian to show up with some friends, kill you, then turn you into a gun
Vengence.
The same way the other hive gods get out: through their choice of sorrow.
Since Eris was/is the Hive God of Vengeance, the way to summon her back will likely be for guardians to slay Hive in the name of vengeance.
And it looks like Drifter will be more than happy to oblige.
Of course, this might also be part of Oryx's plan. He's no Savathun but he's still cunning in his own right.
@@mcmewsenoh, that is right, Eris by all accounts is a Hive god now.
@@mcmewsenmaybe he plans some sort of invasion or possession of Eris to bring himself back, and as a hive god once again
Seeing eris take her headband off for the 1st time in 10 years is actually wild!!!!
2nd time in 2 years actually, but still dope as hell
@@vikrantpulipati1451where did she take it off?
Aiat.
Indeed omg insane
Zero surprise she goes to her thrown world. She is / was a hive god. She’s fine.
Yeah unless she gets killed in her throne world sword logic rules
I always thought she lost any claim to a throne world when she banished Xivu and basically forfeited her position as a god
@wolfmirebacta8710 Mara has or had a throne world iirc. That's how she survived the battle of Saturn
@ completely forgot about that
@@mjthom08 The Mindbender came back in spite of dying in his throne
You know, it was one hell of a way to open a season
So she’s either trapped in the echo or she has a throne world
I think you are right...she has a throne world
Probably because of her time as the God of Vengeance. We'll probably summon her back with Vengeance similar to how Oryx did when he killed Savathún and Xivu.
The dreadnought is a masterless throne world currently, it's not hard to believe she's in the throne world side of the ship.
@@HERIOCLIZARD I don’t think that’s strictly necessary unless she dies a true death. If she has an ascendant Throne World, she should simply be able to cheat death outright.
it's a throne world
When you are in between cutscenes 2 and 3 you hear drifter calling for help and that…that really got me…
SHE HAS CROSSED INTO TRUE DIVINITY! AIAT! AIAT! AIAT!
AIAT!
Let me guess she's in her own throne world
I guess that it is similiar to Xivu, except she was cut off from it. Not sure she can return to it just by dying - without access to Black Terrace, she could die for good. Eris, however, was not cut off. She just lost her power. And never tried getting into her own Throne World. And now, we'll have to conjure her back with Vengeance, like Oryx did with Xivu (War) and Savathun (Deception).
Thinking the same. Figured that would be the case especially after killing Savathun.
@grzegorzflorek5623 judging by Drifters reaction, he's more than willing to dish out some Vengeance to bring her back.
@@mcmewsen Works for Eris
Crazy question is what is Xivu was Eris or something along the lines of that that.
Freekus morn is laughing her ass off it was creepy
The va for drifter... That's fucking legendary... This season is gonna be heat. Im willing to bet this one might be the best season we get story wise
We literally get a taken visual effect in that menu and in the mission in the dreaming city for slone. Give us a taken shader bungie .
they're saving it for when player count falls off a cliff I'm guessing. Same as how they made a whole questline just to get superblack before
@xXx_Regulus_xXx their whole player base DID fall off a cliff. They should have added it instead of worse trials of the nine shader lol
Probably the best intro to a season so far
I'm gonna go with Eris has a throne world and she never knew until now.
she definitely considered the possibility since her brief foray into hive godhood but didn't want to click-clack herself in case she was wrong. Considering how even Toland has a tiny space to himself in the ascendant plane, Eris may have had one that she's been building ever since she started learning hive magic.
“Moondust” 🥺
Germaine is gonna be the star of this year with that intro mission alone. Absolutely loved the raw emotion of losing his love.
Game awards 2025 bait
So basically this whole season is us bringing back eris from her throne world and probably accidentally bringing back oryx in the process considering the art they showed oryx somehow returning
whoever has the echo is probably the one who brought Oryx back but otherwise definitely. we'll empower Eris with vengeance again and she'll square up against Oryx
Hearing Drifter breakdown really got to me. All this time we've known him he's been a joker but gets the job done so hearing him cry made me tear up a bit. What a dark way to open the season, nice job Bungie.
He could get real at times. I occasionally go back to the sole Drifter tape in the EDZ.
"...Right before the light went out in her tiny eyes, she whispered: 'I can't feel anything.'
Yeah. I couldn't, either.
That's all I got. Cut the tape."
I loved this. I felt this was the first time we really saw hesiatation/doubt from the drifter
that and in his flashbacks to the warlord days
and then theres our plank of wood guardian just standing there.
Remember the Drifter? He had a bag full of clothes, guns and glimmer. Ready to bug out at any time.
I don't see him much anymore.
CINEMA
They had us in the first half not gonna lie
The only streamer I've seen that actually got in !
Except he didn't lol, he stole my content from my youtube channel and put it as his own. Filing a copyright strike as of now.
she's alive!!!!!!
Ahem, "the Guardian" has a name guys. Don't see us calling you two the witch and and the hobo.
"Mara Sov's willing servant" is a long ass name for the "guardian"
his name is John Lightbearer
@@adrielle1i23 Are you sure that's their name? I could have sworn their name was "Lord Shaxx's Left Asscheek"
It took me looking at this scene again to realize that dread was taken
Seeing Eris whip that hand canon around, i now belive that she was a hunter
The music when she got stabbed, I haven't heard that since the Taken King trailers back in Destiny 1! What is that music?
Yep it was those high notes in the second half of the trailer after your ship flys into Phobos where the Taken show up
I felt so bad for drifter this season, and it hurts to watch the cutscene again, THE MF NEEDS A FUCKING HUG
Hear me out
The death of everything we know and love would be a sick end to the destiny story
I had a feeling she would have a throne world. Being that she is the Hive God of Vengeance.
Yeah... but that's not a good thing. X/
And we're her brood
That title where is Horus?
On first watch I in game I thought she was back in the Antheneum or whatever that place was called, the hub area for Season of the Witch. It's too dark all around to really tell but watching it again here it doesn't seem toooooo similar but possibly? Maybe that place became her Throne world, or it was modeled after it?
Their mistake was using gambit weapons.
I haven't played this in 1 year, is the game good again?
It's debatable,🤣 I mean, I like it.
RIP DRIFTERIS LOLOLOLOLOL
She is the witch queen
Definitely a thrown world otherwise it doesnt make sense. She does use the sword logic as well and even though she gave up her power at the end of season of the witch she did still kill savathun. Anyone remeber when that one baron got a thrown world after him and his buddies killed cayde. Although if she went straight there I'd imagine that there may he a reason she is not hoing yo come straight back such as learning about what she can do and then maybe deciphering how to come back. Hmm i feel like we may have imaru or even savathun guest start to give us that tidbit of information. Either that or Drifter may mention that he knows how to get her back because he may also expect her to have a thrown world
remember how Oryx brought his sisters back in BoS? "I am war, and you conjured me back with war" "I am trickery, and you conjured me back with trickery" Eris is vengeance, so we just need to do the usual.
Oh shiz! Its her throne world! I totaly forgot! Death cant touch her anymore. But shes proberly stuck tho. That giddy laughter like her thinking oh wow im like a guradian again.
I forgot the lore, can anyone explain to me what having a throne world does and how it kept her alive? thanks
A whole complex rule with the sword logic
The lore is complicated but having a throne world means you can't really die unless you're killed inside of the throne world. It means that she is alive and well and we can "summon her back" and she is essentially immortal beyond even what the she could of had as a guardian.
oh yeahhh now i remember. its how Savathicc was killed the first time.
@@solidicone could have
I've got quotes from the Books of Sorrow, just know Oryx was called Auryx when these were written
This is one of the worm gods explaining their magic to Oryx:
You are no longer bound by causal closure. Your will defeats law. Kill a hundred of your children with a long blade, Auryx, and observe the change in the blade. Observe how the universe shrinks from you in terror. Your existence begins to define itself.
Later, after Savathun kills Oryx:
You are dead, young Auryx. Betrayed and murdered by your own sister, for the crime of mercy. [...] Your body is gone, but you have endured. Safe in the cyst universe created by your own might - your throne world. From this day forward, Auryx, you and your sisters will each survive death - so long as you aren’t killed in your own throne.
That spells it out nicely, and if you want more here's XXI: an incision in its entirety since it shows just how industrious the Hive are with throne worlds:
Sayeth AURYX, my siblings, our children are scattered across many moons, and we live in the cold dark between suns. What will we eat? How will we speak?
SAVATHÛN said, Auryx my brother and king, I have studied the wounds cut by the Worm our God. Also I have studied the manner of your death and return. These two things are the same, for they are predicated on death and the passage through cut spaces. Let us practice the sword logic until we are sharp. We may then cut our own wounds and step through.
But XIVU ARATH said, sister, I am already sharp, look, my sword cuts into another space. And she cut her way between moons through green fire and joyous screams.
Three kingdoms grew swollen in the sword space. They were the gaze and glory of AURYX, the cunning and knowledge of SAVATHÛN, the triumph and brawn of XIVU ARATH. These kingdoms were created from the minds and worms of our lords. They were coterminous with all spaces consecrated by our Hive. Through these spaces passed speech and food, and all the moons were bound close.
Sayeth AURYX, this is where I went when I died. Let us establish our thrones here. For I am Auryx the First Navigator and I shall chart death. And my throne shall be carved of osmium.
Why didn't eris use stasis?
She forgor 💀
Pretty sure when she was in your high of God power it drained all of her other powers
It’s been a years since I’ve played D2 someone run it by me is the Drifter in love with Eris or something? And also does she have her own Throne world?
They've been a thing since beyond light and yeag she got her throne world probably during the time she was a hive god or she got it when we killed crota
yes and yes, Drifter likes Eris since she's a fellow survivalist at any cost type of person, and Eris likes Drifter because he's not constantly wringing his hands over her going too far like the other protagonists. They started working on projects together in the lore and using pet names for each other over comms.
@@joshuawhite4113 ohhh
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx awwww that’s nice🥺
@@xXx_Regulus_xXxEris calling Drifter Rat and Drifter calling her Moondust or “my moonlight” which is super cute and more intimate just like Saint calling Osiris his Phoenix
R.I.P Eris, or not.
Not bad, not bad.
Not bad?? That’s all?
EXCUSE ME
Eris is laughing evil, is the Hive inside of her taking over?
No, she is laughing at the fact that she actually has a Throne World of her own even after giving up her powers when she severed Xivu from hers. To someone who is a bit of a Hive Fanatic like Eris, getting your own Throne World after that is funny because she is essentially dunking on the other Hive by being better at it than they are.
@@ParagonFury- I remember in season of the witch. Eris mentioned the possibility of her developing a throne world. But was not keen on testing that theory.
@@ParagonFury It makes sense: Toland, the Mindbender and Mara aren't Hive and they have throne worlds. The Hive may know how to craft them, but anyone versed in the Ascendant Plane could make one.
@@ParagonFuryI think she’s also laughing to herself because of the shit she went through with Toland and Eriana and the rest of their 6 man fireteam trying to take down Oryx the first time. While Toland is dead in the mortal plane, we still have one sided conversations with the mad Warlock when he makes himself known from his pocket dimension of the ascendant plane in the form of the taken blip wisp. Always thought since Taken king that it was Toland showing us Guardians the way through the ascendant plane in various ways
Thats what I thought because I missed season of the witch, I now know (after reading the replies) that she is probably in her throne world, and I now know that all hive gods get a throne world?...????? 😅
They were roomates...
Omg they were roommates
yes
@@theprobester6034and yes
These are potentially interesting stories told in the most amateurish way possible. Eris, who has become more and more powerful over years, dies to an ad. Then, after 10 years, she removes her headband (which could have been cool) but does so in a stiff, short animation that lacks any timing, composition or visual ambition to make it a good scene.
She does not have her power of vengeance she gave that up to seal xivu arath from he throne world. She's extremely weak, she's a normal human being
She died to the boss not some random add
That's a boss unit, not an ad
Are drifter and eris dating
fun fact : there are no french dialogue (might also be the case for other languages) they couldn't do the voices so you have just the subtitles. that's very bad bungie wtf
IIRC it had to do with a worldwide writer/actor strike or smth like that
i will say, i always loved Calus’s french VA. could never find a recording…
@@adamis2cool Benoit Allemane is one of the best VA in the world, I love his voice too.
I didn't even know Eris and Drifter were a couple... Well, that is sweet, but eris did die... So, not that sweet
I don't think they're a couple. They've just been really close friends and have been through alot together
No they are a couple
I mean, it looks like she has a throne world, though idk if Drifter will be made aware yet
Didn’t they tried it with the crow and Amanda before bungie killed her off
@@centrevezgaming4862 omg- 🤯😅🤣🤣🤣
that op cutscene was pathetic, just a mashup of old ones. NOTHING new
Gotta bring those new lights up to speed.
Half of them only ever played King's fall, and never experienced all that was the Taken King.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in one way, but disagree in the other. Kind of a waste of time pointing that stuff out, and then getting angry about it.
@@That_One_Sunshine_Knight It's just lazy imo. They coulda done a cool new cutscene showing the Dreadnaught's return
@zalla00 they did that for the trailer.
@@That_One_Sunshine_Knight and you don't find that a little lazy? Do something for the trailer but use rehashed old scenes for the actual in-game cutscene?
@@zalla00 No, not really.
It's serving as a simple means to just explain what the dreadnought is, why it's still there, and lead into us going back.
I'm not gonna talk too much about time and resource management cause I'm not a director, but with the previous layoffs, all the negative criticism surrounding Bungie for the previous episode, and having to develop the probably doa game, Marathon... Yeah something tells me they're trying to keep this ball of glue tape and paper clips together with what little they have.
So what if this minute long cut scene is a rehash with dialogue over it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
WHAT
Eris and Drifter are probably the only good things about the next disappointm-... episode. I'll just tune in sometimes on here ig, not playing that soulless chore simulator even if my life depends on it.
Whats wrong with her nose
Out of all the trailers I had to find a guardian that wears the most ugly helmet from iron banner
You can really tell they fired all the best writers and scene directors.
Wdym ?????
What are you yapping about this was good
What?
Recycled music, assets and most of the content.
I have over 2K hours in D2 before i left - This is just sad now.
This season/"episode" sucks
Literally the day it launched
Holy fucking shit, Erie morn has her own throne world, I thought I’d never be this excited for destiny 2 again but fuck that I’m ecstatic.