Update to this build: th-cam.com/video/ODWFp2CRTZE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FFUQNkwkFlmE7y5c I would path up the right side of the tree if you're starting out like I have in the video but there is a very clear inefficiency in my tree since I took whispers of doom. I can save 3 passive points by connecting it up the middle lol. This build is very comfortable to play and is very consistent. If you want to go brrr and do hella damage and don't mind micro managing your health in maps you can take off the 10 maximum demon flame and chug a health pot. Around 70 demon flame I can go out and back into demon form right away because of the support gems I have on it. You can make this even better by lowing your max health with uniques and building more life regen on gear, jewels, and the tree
If you didn't know you're missing 2 passives points from the campaign somewhere. You should have 24 weapon swap points at the end of it. Regardless it's a nice guide. I'm really hoping the 3rd ascendency for witch will be a chaos dot focused one I just love the archetype.
.... Necro almost HAS to be the witches final ascendence.... unless summoning is covered in a weird way under one of the other two already I'd have thought the DOT side would have already been covered to be honest.... Or maybe they will combine the two parts into one new path...
@@jybil178 Infernalist seems to be the summoning ascendancy since it can give you a large amount of extra spirit and the hellhound is very good. My guess is occulist is the last one since nothing on witch deals with chaos damage.
@@jybil178 i am pretty sure that blood mage is chaos ascendency. they don't give you chaos damage but they give critical chance to critical hit aliments and since class has life leech, the dot act if they were health regen but class also hurts itself so it's like + and -. infernalist is suppose to be about minions and judging from the name, infernal is fire, so fire minions. I think your still suppose to use chaos dots because dark effigy is a minion and bomber themselves have ignite on them. I assume witch also gives opportunity to use Frost mages and Lightning mages like elementalist but it's default is infernal(fire) element. I believe 3rd ascendancy is related to physical minions. you see, there is ton of minions related to physical damage like vulnerability hex, skeleton brutes but there is no class that supports physical damage on witch or physical weapons. I think 3rd ascendancy is "Melee" witch. Duel wielding witch that runs Skepter+Mace. So your like a warrior type witch that can use occult magic to summon warriors to fight for you but your also melee. Neither blood mage or Infernalist support any of occult physical spells or any of physical minions, those spells are completely out of place and don't make any sense at the moment. The 3rd ascendancy will probably address that part of the tree.
@@dodang_9147 most chaos spells do not crit ... as most of them are damage over time which do not crit. So bloodmage would be a really annoying thing to be the chaos ascendancy
@@Lagenciebut dot damage scale of strikes might. If you deal 1000 crit damage, so your dot will have 200 dps, if you deal 500 non crit damage, so your dot wil have only 100 dps
Fun chaos build, nice to see someone pushing for something other than SRS. Just a heads up, double check your ES passives, as a lot of the big % ES increases are currently bugged/not working and not actually increasing ES.
I was playing ED + contagion. Contagion doesn't say chaos or poison ailments; it just says ailments. I was using it to transfer chaos, poison, fire and bleeding.
I did go bloodmage and have no ascendancy points (haven’t had a 2 floor drop) and I have 24 percent crit on hex blast. Very nice. Love watching your vids, taking the key points and trying to make them relevant
I appreciate this video so much. Im also doing a chaos build, and working towards demon form, and as someone who didnt even finish the campaign in poe1 because i didnt want to have to constantly look at a guide, i appreciate this game for letting me truly theory craft on my own. I just reworked my chaos build, and I ended up with sonething pretty close to your build. All on my own. I love that about this game. But i knew it could have been better. This guide made me realize that i wasnt stacking enough chaos damage (i did too muxh accommodation), that i didnt need to spam cast my curses, and that maybe its not a good idea to put the poison support gem on my chaos bolt 🤦🏿♀️. This build takes my current setup and consolidates it efficiently. I will be running a few minions though for that true necromancer feel. And maybe in late game some lifesteal so i can stack demon stacks infinitely to supplement. Idc what anyone says, this guide was made SPECIFICALLY for me to see, even though its a month later 😂😂. Thanks again!
This build takes a little hands-on experience to realize what is really needed to keep demon form up. Demon form got nerfed (instead of just 0.5% of lps it's now 1+0.5% lps due to abuse of low life characters stacking infinitely) but if we are able to turn more or nearly all life into Energy shield with uniques and also lower life enough so the flat life Regen we get from items is about 90% of our life pool than we can pretty much keep it up close to 100+ stacks. Example: having like 250 life and 2500 energy shield with 200 life regen. Each stack (post-nerf) now causes a flat -1 + (0.5% of max HP) lps. 50 stacks = 50 + (25% of 250) = -112.5 lps 100 stacks = 100 + (50% of 250) = -225 lps So about 90 ish stacks are sustainable with that setup. Just gotta find a sweet spot (preferably 40+ second so second wind is up when re-casting demon form) and sooner or later it'll become muscle memory. 😅
This. Chaos skill dmg is garbage right now. I started EA with chaos, and after slogging through campaign, I resolved and was amazed how everything died 10x faster. ED is really disappointing
@@kewlf00l85 Yea its sad, I was super hyped to build chaos impeding doom witch, but it does not deal any dmg and curses work with 1 sec delay... We have to pray they gonna change it
same exact thing for me. For a game that is supposed to be very build diverse, it actually feels like infernalist is kinda restrictive currently imo. I made a new monk character and am already enjoying it a lot more (and i played my infernalist all the way to level 50). They also need to allow demon mode to use weapons, it's the main reason I'm still contemplating even taking that node. I wanna try to switch to a switch to a spell based build instead of minions, but honestly respeccing is such a pain I don't even know if i will. Problem is they are way too hyper focused on instantly nerfing anything they deem as "too strong" before fixing the underpowered shit that feels borderline unplayable.
Chaos skills only do DoT with the exception of hexblast. Are you running a withered wand ? The Chaos Bolt does hella damage to single target if you have high cast speed. I melted all campaign bosses after i figjred that out
Finally found a chaos/demon build that is farther in the game! I've really enjoyed figuring out a build this time around since the gem changes make it much less daunting than in PoE1, but couldn't find anything to compare to. Helped me trim a little bit of waste off my passive tree, so thank you! Also, would love to see a video on how your build changes if you pick up Pyromantic Pact because I'm thinking of going that route myself.
@@Doth_ Stumbled on this video because I started out playing a similar build, and hit a wall with ED. I was trying for CI and Minion Pact support for the constant 40% multiplier, but even with that, despair, and 70% wither, ED damage feels like ass. Anyway, I tried Spell Echo with Hexblast to try to trigger the second curse to explode, but that doesn't work either. That one, though, seems like a bug.
saaame, the constant srs builds are getting irritating. I'm trying to get a lightning warp build potentially going but it'll taking a lot of messing around and tbh I'm not motivated to play witch anymore. I wanna basically turn her into a lightning caster that can aoe nuke with lightning warp but I haven't gotten it to a working state yet.
Dont know if someone allready replied to this question, but what stun threshold means is that if u are hit for x% ammount of ur HP (dont remember the %), u get stunned. This is really bad for builds that want to go High ESm becasue u might have 10k HP and 500hp, but if u take 500 dmg (to the ES), u are getting perma stunned. Adding x% ammount of ur ES to your stun threshold makes it so if u add 10% of 10k ES, u'd need to get hit by more than 1k on a single HIT to get stunned (without taking into account HP). So yeah its a great addition to this kind of build
Love this build and like others have said- nice to see an infernalist that isnt another SRS build. i noticed you dont have your 4th ascendancy set. there is a lot of dedication to mana issues, i am wondering if taking Pyromantic pact and just getting a large amount of fire resistence is a better play. Could even annoint Unnatural Resiliaence and stack fire resist on all pieces of gear.
would really appreciate a maxroll build or a written build elsewhere, scrolling through the video back and forth to check some things isn't that convenient, other than that great build, I run the same and wanted some support gem and passive tree inspirations, thanks man
IF you do take CI and are worried about losing the mobility from demon form, since you'll be using a weapon anyway, you could get % spirit on it, enough for the blink gem, which will alleviate the mobility issue. It's just as good, if not better than the demon form dash IMO
Inspired by your video I decided to try out the build. It feels absolutely awesome. I did change it a bit and cast one of the curses separately with a cursed ground and doom blast gems. I feel that the doom blast gives a lot more damage when the mobs are near each other. Thoughts?
Thanks man, been running curse demon form but just couldn't figure out my defenses or even the regen, after finishing act 3 like that it felt really horrible, the chest piece and pointing out the shield nodes helped me a ton, same with hexblast instead of sticking to drain it feels a lot better now but yeah, guess its quite underwelming compared to other builds
I love this thanks. Keep us update! I prefer chaos damage for Witch, it feels more like a cursed Witch. Which thematically is cooler to me than a elemental Witch. One idea is to include zombies to spread contagion, if you can find the spirit on something.
Just want to say thanks for posting this, because all i can find and see are people doing skele builds, no one does curse/hex builds it seems. And if they do have a build, its not informative at all.
Have you checked out the Notable Icebreaker, that gives freeze threshold based on ES? It's over near the Dex/Int area on the outside, and if you snag that you could use an antidote charm for poison instead.
One suggestion: the Aura talent "bolstering presence" SIGNFICANTLY increases the power of your aura talents, it changes blasphemy from your curses doing 50% of their normal effect to doing 80% of their normal effect. HUGE buff. It's like 20% extra dps and extra slow
Nice guide! Was trying to figure out how to deal with Demon form's degen so this helped a lot. I'm running a fireball multiple projectiles build though. You should check it out it's fun!
if u are on trade try out the posion boots, they make clearing REALLY good and fast, just run past as u cast hexblast once and everything behind u dies
Is there any chance to play that early on? I just startet a witch today and i'm new to the game, but this is exactly what i want to play... It looks amazing, i don't need the SUPER FLASHY 1 MINUTE MAP RUNS.. i want a fun build that looks cool Are there any guides/planner for that and how to level with it till i reach that point? - Do i need the unique items for the build to work and how can i get them?
I always find your videos helpful XD Thank you for uploading the video. I don't really understand the usefulness of poison. You use a lot of passive points to activate poison. I think you could use the other points to increase chaos damage or spell damage, but even taking that into account, is poison still more useful? Which one is more useful when considering the single DPS of rare monsters?
i talk about it when im explaining the abilities. I want dot damage to spread because it makes killing large packs of enemies even faster especially when engaging in the league mechanics on maps like breach and ritual. To get the contagion to spread the enemy has to die. Essence drain is very weak so it wont kill enemies until it has spread a bunch with contagion, so i have to use hexblast to kill the enemy that has essence drain on it. Why not just cut out essence drain and put poison on with hexblast and have chaos dot spread that way. Why faster and way less clunky
Grim Feast aura is a very good adaption to this build if you get to 160 spirit, making mob kills drop es which can overflow your es - I am running around with a very similiar build to yours and most of the time i have double my max es because of this overflowing thing :)
Thanks so much for your work. Im falling in love with this build. Already 3 char at level 75. This one is for me. Dont know what to choose between infernalist or bloodmage and try to do a crit chaos.
Very interesting build! Great source for ideas for me, I'm trying to build on the chaos dots and I think this will help me figure that out. Thank you for the effort!
Once you get your second ascendancy (ugh chaos dungeon). Those 4 points will cap it. You can start slaughtering. From there, once you get a ghostwrithe, you can begin to uncap the stacks and get maybe 60.
Im new to POE, so i might not be aware of some mechanics but here's my 2 cents since im playing the same build: 1) Temporal chains is great and feels like it gives you more with the mob's slowed animations than enfeeble, i also run increased curse effectivness 2) 30% damage on hindered enemies in the passive tree is really good for hexblast, maybe less so for you, since you run poisons/contagion 3) Mana Tempest with premeditation/arcane surge is great to throw under you when fighting bosses/yellows, as long as you can manage the mana, i do that by having flask with mana charges on kill And the more questionable one: it feels like the far right node with +1 to all chaos skills is the biggest dps boost, even if we're getting +5 levels from demon form.
1. nothing wrong with temporal chains and actually it benefits the offense because it makes damage over times last longer. I just prefer a higher effective hp. you must have a lot of spirit to run all that XD im jealous 2.its good. just didnt make the cut 3.mana tempest turns your chaos damage into lightning damage so it loses your from all your chaos, despair, and withered so dont totally understand why if you can elaborate 4. youre not wrong. i could take away the levels from the left most chaos damage cluster. Its just even more mana cost is why I didn't
So I was thinking about converting portions of my DMG to lightning and if the secondary curse you're running is conductivity then running mana tempest could definitely boost DPS I think 😊. Also I'm not very experienced into Poe but I think that dipping dmg in chaos & lightning can help fall chaos resistant ennemies. And also @Doth_ many thanks for your build update I ran hexblast and it did blast through the campaign, I'm now running into maps
Ive seen on reddit people use 2x Ming's Heart as well for rings, then use Pyromaniac Pact + Eternal Youth combo to manage killing yourself from spamming skills.
yeah ill probably move to something like that. This build is very comfortable where you dont have to spam flasks but if you take off the limiters every spell will go brrr
How did you get Blasphemy to work while in Demon form? Seems like I have tried everything. I have enough spirit without weapons but when I enter Demon form but it seems like the allocated spirit towards Blasphemy and the socketed curse get turned off.
Suggestion. Try essence drain with chains and scatter shot + chaotic freeze. It will spread that freeze faster. Does drop your ED dmg but im theory most of your damage is coming from HB.
I was doing the exact same build as you but i opted for a max recoup life when damage taken and then go straight for the firemana ascendancy. Spam abilities, recoup life, avoid mana, sustain demonform. if my calcs are right, u can get up to %80+ recoup on damage taken.
Good stuff! I appreciate all the detail here. Definitely a fan of trying to make blackflame work to go full DoT. I gotta say, the way the demon form nodes are structured seems really backwards to me. I feel like the first node should be demon form + cap at 10, and the next node should be unlimited demon form. Being "unleashed" with one point and "contained" with 2 makes zero sense to me. I suspect that peak demon form won't include the 10 cap node, but I can see how challenging it would be to sustain / would also require a bit more management with having to re-enter demon form once you hit that 1 life. Unfortunately, even if we go 1 node into demon form + 2 nodes for pyromantic pact + ignite, it doesn't seem that we have a great option for the last ascendancy points. Seething body doesn't seem particularly attractive and grinning immolation, even if it was useful somehow, seems brutal to sustain on top of demon form + pact. Maybe loyal pupper for some mitigation and utility / use it to somehow incorporate freeze + freeze related damage supports, idk. Looking forward to seeing where you take this, planning on farming some gold and respecing out of minions to experiment with this as well!
Yeah, her ascendancy is really weird and all over the place, but I love it. I feel like I have a ton of choices and I have a ton of ideas for her because of it. I think her demon form will get changed because it's absurdly strong, and the pyromantic pact probably shouldn't ignite you because it makes it even harder to make work
Hi, I like your build a lot. There's an item called The Devouring Diadem Wicker Tiara, which has every 3% consume a nearby corpse to recover 20% of life. If this item works with demon form, then maybe you can spec into max life/armor and have a smoother ride.
Any tips on someone leveling up that wants to get to this point smoothly? Lots of minion leveling builds out there, but they don't seem to build the same way.
When you use Hexblast on the enemy, does Blasphemy reapply it instantly or do you have to leave range and return to reapply it? Couldn't quite tell while watching your gameplay
I've been looking for a good Demon form build so I'm excited to see this working out, at least as well as it can in its current state. I was really hoping to see if I could do a fire demon form build using Fireblast or something similar. Would you say that is viable here, or are there only benefits to chaos damage for witch at the moment?
Alright maybe I m just borderline noobed. I m in my cruel playtrough right now with level 50 and thought I was super smart figuring out my hound fire gasbomb combo. But playing it to act 2 and 3 got me bored reaaaaally quick. Saw your video and thought wow. Super funny with curses and the form! (Couldn’t make any use of the demon form till then). I m still lacking stuff and I can t kill shit right now …. But I m unkillable which is … something? My point is I felt so bored simply pressing my poison arrow over and over. While this build also doesn’t have that much skills to press I really enjoy it and it feels less repetitive for me. Chaos and curses and hexing just feels very whichy for me which gives me a lot of joy. … also I mean a skill that gives me a cool form! I just read people complaining that it doesn’t kill stuff fast enough but well on your screen it seems like everything dies pretty fast almost instantly except bosses? Maybe having no comparison to other classes is a bliss sometimes I guess! I for once really enjoy your build. It feeds my class fantasies and hopefully once I hit the last essential points I can also kill stuff quicker SOOOO nice work! Can’t wait to curse my weak ass to the endgame.
@tobiasbollig6394 yeah you do gotta press hexblast a lot. You can take off the maximum 10 demon flame and it will help your damage and get you to press your health flask a lot more And yes I really enjoy the tankyness of this build in a game where dying has major consequences
@@Doth_ got a 21 life reg amulet now it s smoothing! i just don t know what to socket! do you just socket resistances and .. just go from there to get items without that resistence? don t know what to socket in my chest. got one with 31 chaos reduction and 2 slots.. thinking of corrupting it!
@tobiasbollig6394 Start with rings for your resistances since they can get the most since the sapphire, ruby, topaz, and prismatic ring have resistances on their implict. Just try and get as much as you can on them and maybe a good amount of life regeneration on then too so you can take off the 10 maximum demon flame in the future. Then just try and fill out resistances on the rest of your gear. Socket runes last
Do you know about the chest item "Tetzlapokal's Desire"? I think it could be godly to keep you in demon form for longer since you're already scaling energy shield. What do you think?
@@Doth_ Man I thought I was cooking with this one. And I suppose it also wouldn't work over the life loss even if you kickstart it with like a flask or something? :/
@@Doth_ What about using "The Covenant" and simply leech the life back? The ever ramping spell damage would just make the leech stronger and stronger, also negating the added life cost in the process
I reroll chrono becuase it sucks hard. Crono is good as a support for party play or a cooldown refresher. I tried all the varients builds for Crono (millions of gold spend) and after the CoF nerf it's hard for her. U need a broken build for her to work as u will only take recoup and slow aura nods for normal builds. Temporal Rift is anti sinnergy whit recoup as it takes u back in time and u need to recoup again or mitigate the damage totally (then why need recoup?), the cast speed is so bad its like driving on the street that is full of stops at every 8 seconds. The slow aura is her best ascendancy point (if you don't play support or CD builds), but it's not enough. You need investments like "slow magnitude" or temp chains like you said. Keep in mind that if you take recoup nods, you also need to invest in recoup for it to feel good, and that's a huge downside once again. Other take points to instant boost, Crono takes points to creat builds around them by investing in those nods. I know you want her to work, but at least for my brain, it's hard. I hope some will come with a nice build for her (I'll definitely go for her then), or GGG may fix her when the ascendancy patch comes.
@@rusudenes8549 Ah damn, and here I started to play sorceress precisely because I thought this particular build would work nicely with Chrono. Although primarily I liked additional slow, assuming hexblast/poison/contagion will cover damage and it would be super fun to slow mobs to a crawl. Didn't even think about recoup, as I was aiming to have MoM for protection (instead of energy shield like in this build). I think I'll still try it, but now I am prepared to be disappointed. Thank you. :)
@@Doth_ yeah, but in theory exactly your build (although I was thinking MoM as defense rather than energy shield) seems to synergize quite nicely with Chrono. I am trying it now (meaning - leveling sorceress), but I am ready to be disappointed then. :)
Go fight the 3 bosses that grant permanent 30 Spirit. Get spirit on an amulet and push it to 120(135 if you got big pockets). That'll sustain blasphemy and a few others.
Hi Doth, i just don't understand where you get that Dex and Str, can u explain it? You don't have nodes in skill tree and neither have status on your equip. I m curious cause i need for my build. Thankss💪🏼
there is +18 to all atributes on my amulet. I have a different amulet now and i have dex on my tree and str on my belt. Just gotta make it work somehow
I have a question about Dark Effigy, it only shoots on mobs with an chaos dot debuff? so only debuff i can see here with dot chaos is essence drain? so u must shoot an every mob? or what iam i missing here?
Thanks man, currently leveling with a similar build (using hellhound for survivability). Question: since hexblast can only blast 1 curse, is the 2 curse passive worth it?
But DOTs do not scale with spell damage, unless otherwise stated on the gem... ED specifically mentions that spell dmg also applies to the DOT debuff. Poison does not scale with the spell dmg received from the demon form... only from +lvl (which increases the initial hit of the poison inflicting ability)
Poison doesn't get a multiplier from spell damage, but the +spell dmg should increase the Magnitude of poison inflicted by the hit of hexblast, albeit with a 0.2 multiplier.
hey did you pick up the Permanent HP Buff Act 1(+20 Maximum Life) and Act 1 Cruel (8% Maximum Life) ? i wanna make a demon form build but i picked these up :( will this hurt the build alot?
yes, but since most of your points will go into curses/chaos/minions there'll be nothing left for you, so it will be a glass cannon build. And canons effectiveness against bosses will be really questionable... Against mobs should be ok
@yzwme586 finish the map first so you get your progress towards atlas, clear a good runway, stay on the outside if the break at all times and don't get greedy. That's what I did till my build was good enough to stay inside and even then it's still scary
took out unearth because its more buttons and the minions just die but I might put it back in soon mostly for cc but what you said is a great+ and reason to use it also
I tried to do something like this. I was spec’ing for only chaos damage but both mobbing and bossing felt incredibly slow and most boss fights were a struggle. Maybe I just gave up on it a bit too quickly? I made it to level 29 before wanting to try something else.
Does speccing into Chaos Inoculation mean that you cant die to poison anymore? (Since Poison damage is considered to be Chaos damage from what I hear) and if so, is there any point to building Chaos damage resist if youre gonna go that route anyways?
Hmmm, one thing I don't get - why do we actually need contagion for the combo? damage is very low, I assume poison damage is quite low too, main damage then is Curse into Hexblast. The only reason I see for contagion/poison is to make dark effigy shoot mobs faster, which would apply wither stacks. Is that it?
U are wrong, the damage u see is done by the poison. Hexblast doses less dmg with the nerf but enough to proc high poison dmg. Contagion is only there for spreading poison and applying build-up freez to freeze, because chaos dmg can only freeze and not stun (it's hard without investment in to stun). Also, adding poison in to the mix is easyer to find dmg nods and push harder content.
hexblast is very good on its own and you can use it as such. When pack density gets high spreading around chaos dot is very useful and will do a ton of damage
I'm really sorry, but I really can't wrap my head around your permanent demon form. Is that from the second ascendency? The one that caps your flames at 10? (and i'm guessing the upside for it is not taking damage anymore)
The amount of life you lose is a percentage of your total. So if you have a small amount of life you lose a small amount per second. He has regen that is higher than the amount he loses. If he has 500 life he will only lose 25 life per second (5%). His amulet gives him flat 22 life per second and then a few other gear pieces have life regen too
Do you ever feel that the demon form's hitbox is larger than human form? I constantly get stuck between mobs as if the hitbox fix was not applied to demon form
Update to this build: th-cam.com/video/ODWFp2CRTZE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FFUQNkwkFlmE7y5c
I would path up the right side of the tree if you're starting out like I have in the video but there is a very clear inefficiency in my tree since I took whispers of doom. I can save 3 passive points by connecting it up the middle lol.
This build is very comfortable to play and is very consistent. If you want to go brrr and do hella damage and don't mind micro managing your health in maps you can take off the 10 maximum demon flame and chug a health pot. Around 70 demon flame I can go out and back into demon form right away because of the support gems I have on it. You can make this even better by lowing your max health with uniques and building more life regen on gear, jewels, and the tree
Would taking damage as mana and spec into more mana regen not work for this build?
@@Atticus_Moore Would definitely work, just need to manage your mana as well
all nice but i noticed you are missing 2 skill points from side events, you should have 24 after all the acts and you do have 22
Prevent taking permanent life upgrades from the story too. :)
Why lower max health?
If you didn't know you're missing 2 passives points from the campaign somewhere. You should have 24 weapon swap points at the end of it. Regardless it's a nice guide. I'm really hoping the 3rd ascendency for witch will be a chaos dot focused one I just love the archetype.
.... Necro almost HAS to be the witches final ascendence.... unless summoning is covered in a weird way under one of the other two already
I'd have thought the DOT side would have already been covered to be honest....
Or maybe they will combine the two parts into one new path...
@@jybil178 Infernalist seems to be the summoning ascendancy since it can give you a large amount of extra spirit and the hellhound is very good. My guess is occulist is the last one since nothing on witch deals with chaos damage.
@@jybil178 i am pretty sure that blood mage is chaos ascendency. they don't give you chaos damage but they give critical chance to critical hit aliments and since class has life leech, the dot act if they were health regen but class also hurts itself so it's like + and -. infernalist is suppose to be about minions and judging from the name, infernal is fire, so fire minions. I think your still suppose to use chaos dots because dark effigy is a minion and bomber themselves have ignite on them. I assume witch also gives opportunity to use Frost mages and Lightning mages like elementalist but it's default is infernal(fire) element. I believe 3rd ascendancy is related to physical minions. you see, there is ton of minions related to physical damage like vulnerability hex, skeleton brutes but there is no class that supports physical damage on witch or physical weapons. I think 3rd ascendancy is "Melee" witch. Duel wielding witch that runs Skepter+Mace. So your like a warrior type witch that can use occult magic to summon warriors to fight for you but your also melee. Neither blood mage or Infernalist support any of occult physical spells or any of physical minions, those spells are completely out of place and don't make any sense at the moment. The 3rd ascendancy will probably address that part of the tree.
@@dodang_9147 most chaos spells do not crit ... as most of them are damage over time which do not crit. So bloodmage would be a really annoying thing to be the chaos ascendancy
@@Lagenciebut dot damage scale of strikes might. If you deal 1000 crit damage, so your dot will have 200 dps, if you deal 500 non crit damage, so your dot wil have only 100 dps
Fun chaos build, nice to see someone pushing for something other than SRS.
Just a heads up, double check your ES passives, as a lot of the big % ES increases are currently bugged/not working and not actually increasing ES.
which ones ..?
What is SRS?
@@Ray-mu1ti summon raging spirits
think they work
Which passives do you mean for ES?
I was playing ED + contagion. Contagion doesn't say chaos or poison ailments; it just says ailments. I was using it to transfer chaos, poison, fire and bleeding.
I did go bloodmage and have no ascendancy points (haven’t had a 2 floor drop) and I have 24 percent crit on hex blast. Very nice. Love watching your vids, taking the key points and trying to make them relevant
Thank you for updating this, hope you keep going with it! Following your build right now and its a blast
Dude you're blasting! I love seeing the class fantasy builds working
I appreciate this video so much. Im also doing a chaos build, and working towards demon form, and as someone who didnt even finish the campaign in poe1 because i didnt want to have to constantly look at a guide, i appreciate this game for letting me truly theory craft on my own.
I just reworked my chaos build, and I ended up with sonething pretty close to your build. All on my own. I love that about this game. But i knew it could have been better.
This guide made me realize that i wasnt stacking enough chaos damage (i did too muxh accommodation), that i didnt need to spam cast my curses, and that maybe its not a good idea to put the poison support gem on my chaos bolt 🤦🏿♀️. This build takes my current setup and consolidates it efficiently. I will be running a few minions though for that true necromancer feel. And maybe in late game some lifesteal so i can stack demon stacks infinitely to supplement.
Idc what anyone says, this guide was made SPECIFICALLY for me to see, even though its a month later 😂😂. Thanks again!
Very unique build. Thanks for sharing so much detail!
This build takes a little hands-on experience to realize what is really needed to keep demon form up.
Demon form got nerfed (instead of just 0.5% of lps it's now 1+0.5% lps due to abuse of low life characters stacking infinitely) but if we are able to turn more or nearly all life into Energy shield with uniques and also lower life enough so the flat life Regen we get from items is about 90% of our life pool than we can pretty much keep it up close to 100+ stacks.
Example: having like 250 life and 2500 energy shield with 200 life regen.
Each stack (post-nerf) now causes a flat -1 + (0.5% of max HP) lps.
50 stacks = 50 + (25% of 250) = -112.5 lps
100 stacks = 100 + (50% of 250) = -225 lps
So about 90 ish stacks are sustainable with that setup.
Just gotta find a sweet spot (preferably 40+ second so second wind is up when re-casting demon form) and sooner or later it'll become muscle memory. 😅
Chaos builds need a huge buff, I had problems clearing act 3 with chaos, switched to srs done all acts in less than 5hours
This. Chaos skill dmg is garbage right now. I started EA with chaos, and after slogging through campaign, I resolved and was amazed how everything died 10x faster. ED is really disappointing
@@kewlf00l85 Yea its sad, I was super hyped to build chaos impeding doom witch, but it does not deal any dmg and curses work with 1 sec delay... We have to pray they gonna change it
same exact thing for me. For a game that is supposed to be very build diverse, it actually feels like infernalist is kinda restrictive currently imo. I made a new monk character and am already enjoying it a lot more (and i played my infernalist all the way to level 50). They also need to allow demon mode to use weapons, it's the main reason I'm still contemplating even taking that node. I wanna try to switch to a switch to a spell based build instead of minions, but honestly respeccing is such a pain I don't even know if i will.
Problem is they are way too hyper focused on instantly nerfing anything they deem as "too strong" before fixing the underpowered shit that feels borderline unplayable.
their single target is really rough. They certainly are not on par with some other things in the game right now
Chaos skills only do DoT with the exception of hexblast. Are you running a withered wand ?
The Chaos Bolt does hella damage to single target if you have high cast speed. I melted all campaign bosses after i figjred that out
Finally found a chaos/demon build that is farther in the game! I've really enjoyed figuring out a build this time around since the gem changes make it much less daunting than in PoE1, but couldn't find anything to compare to. Helped me trim a little bit of waste off my passive tree, so thank you!
Also, would love to see a video on how your build changes if you pick up Pyromantic Pact because I'm thinking of going that route myself.
Looks like this needs to be buffed. Still nice that you pursued this build.
@foowii4421 yeah im surprised they made it so you can't blow up multiple curses.
@@Doth_ Stumbled on this video because I started out playing a similar build, and hit a wall with ED. I was trying for CI and Minion Pact support for the constant 40% multiplier, but even with that, despair, and 70% wither, ED damage feels like ass. Anyway, I tried Spell Echo with Hexblast to try to trigger the second curse to explode, but that doesn't work either. That one, though, seems like a bug.
@@fich01 yeah im hoping spell cascade and spell echo are bugged on hexblast because they could be good supports.
@@Doth_ Yeah i want to try Impending doom but alot of component gem not working
Ooo this is the first really fun looking witch build I've seen. Gonna save that one for later
you can also save 5 points into stats on the right side going up and instead just move the 2 on the left so you have 3 more spare
finally ı found the one that ı am looking for thank you for the guide. it is really helpful mate keep it up.
really cool build deffo going to use this for my witch got kinda sick of seeing the same witch build on youtube these past few days XD
Me too. I have no one to get ideas from
saaame, the constant srs builds are getting irritating. I'm trying to get a lightning warp build potentially going but it'll taking a lot of messing around and tbh I'm not motivated to play witch anymore. I wanna basically turn her into a lightning caster that can aoe nuke with lightning warp but I haven't gotten it to a working state yet.
Dont know if someone allready replied to this question, but what stun threshold means is that if u are hit for x% ammount of ur HP (dont remember the %), u get stunned. This is really bad for builds that want to go High ESm becasue u might have 10k HP and 500hp, but if u take 500 dmg (to the ES), u are getting perma stunned.
Adding x% ammount of ur ES to your stun threshold makes it so if u add 10% of 10k ES, u'd need to get hit by more than 1k on a single HIT to get stunned (without taking into account HP). So yeah its a great addition to this kind of build
thank you
Will add to that, you shouldnt take both paths there, either will get the job done, further testing might be needed to decide which @@Doth_
Love this build and like others have said- nice to see an infernalist that isnt another SRS build. i noticed you dont have your 4th ascendancy set. there is a lot of dedication to mana issues, i am wondering if taking Pyromantic pact and just getting a large amount of fire resistence is a better play. Could even annoint Unnatural Resiliaence and stack fire resist on all pieces of gear.
This is exactly the build i was going for when i picked the witch class.
would really appreciate a maxroll build or a written build elsewhere, scrolling through the video back and forth to check some things isn't that convenient, other than that great build, I run the same and wanted some support gem and passive tree inspirations, thanks man
That was a really good guide!
You sir, just saved my build. Thank you.
IF you do take CI and are worried about losing the mobility from demon form, since you'll be using a weapon anyway, you could get % spirit on it, enough for the blink gem, which will alleviate the mobility issue. It's just as good, if not better than the demon form dash IMO
Nice Build! Did you thing about Blood Magic, Crit and a 3. curse?
Didn’t they fix the spirit loss when going into demon form? That was in one of the early patch notes.
Inspired by your video I decided to try out the build. It feels absolutely awesome. I did change it a bit and cast one of the curses separately with a cursed ground and doom blast gems. I feel that the doom blast gives a lot more damage when the mobs are near each other. Thoughts?
@@joose8765 sounds dope. Does it double explode when you use hexblast?
Thanks man, been running curse demon form but just couldn't figure out my defenses or even the regen, after finishing act 3 like that it felt really horrible, the chest piece and pointing out the shield nodes helped me a ton, same with hexblast instead of sticking to drain it feels a lot better now but yeah, guess its quite underwelming compared to other builds
I love this thanks. Keep us update! I prefer chaos damage for Witch, it feels more like a cursed Witch. Which thematically is cooler to me than a elemental Witch. One idea is to include zombies to spread contagion, if you can find the spirit on something.
This looks pretty fun, I think I'll try it out 😮
Nice Input, was cooking up this build aswell :D
You can free up some passive skill points by going straight up in the middle!
i just discovered that today lol. I used to pick up things on that part of the tree and when I picked up whispers of doom last second I didnt realize
Where do you mean mate :O?
@@tobiasbollig6394Hes going to the Right to get to the outer Ring. If you go straight up and then a right turn, you save some points
Just want to say thanks for posting this, because all i can find and see are people doing skele builds, no one does curse/hex builds it seems. And if they do have a build, its not informative at all.
Have you checked out the Notable Icebreaker, that gives freeze threshold based on ES? It's over near the Dex/Int area on the outside, and if you snag that you could use an antidote charm for poison instead.
@Reliquarium yep I took that recently after seeing someone else's video but I equipped an ignite charm
we seperately made almost identical builds, nice going!
One suggestion: the Aura talent "bolstering presence" SIGNFICANTLY increases the power of your aura talents, it changes blasphemy from your curses doing 50% of their normal effect to doing 80% of their normal effect. HUGE buff. It's like 20% extra dps and extra slow
I am really enjoying scaling spirit and using the off hand that buffs spell damage with the chaos ritual on the pup
You can top up ES with potions, there is a keystone that lets you do that.
Why can't I activate Demon Form while Blasphemy is on?
Nice guide! Was trying to figure out how to deal with Demon form's degen so this helped a lot. I'm running a fireball multiple projectiles build though. You should check it out it's fun!
Dude unleash and multi proj feels like you are a dragon or carpet bombing the map
if u are on trade try out the posion boots, they make clearing REALLY good and fast, just run past as u cast hexblast once and everything behind u dies
the boots were 1 ex
i tried a few days ago. for some reason they dont work in the demon form
@@baloov7871 You're talking about the decompose boots right?
the problem is max 10% max speed, a bummer comparing to 25%+
Is there any chance to play that early on? I just startet a witch today and i'm new to the game, but this is exactly what i want to play... It looks amazing, i don't need the SUPER FLASHY 1 MINUTE MAP RUNS.. i want a fun build that looks cool
Are there any guides/planner for that and how to level with it till i reach that point? - Do i need the unique items for the build to work and how can i get them?
I can't use blasphemy in demon mode. It says not enough spirit 😢
But can activate it when I'm in demon form why ?
Bug on ps5 ?
I always find your videos helpful XD
Thank you for uploading the video.
I don't really understand the usefulness of poison.
You use a lot of passive points to activate poison.
I think you could use the other points to increase chaos damage or spell damage, but even taking that into account, is poison still more useful?
Which one is more useful when considering the single DPS of rare monsters?
i talk about it when im explaining the abilities. I want dot damage to spread because it makes killing large packs of enemies even faster especially when engaging in the league mechanics on maps like breach and ritual. To get the contagion to spread the enemy has to die. Essence drain is very weak so it wont kill enemies until it has spread a bunch with contagion, so i have to use hexblast to kill the enemy that has essence drain on it. Why not just cut out essence drain and put poison on with hexblast and have chaos dot spread that way. Why faster and way less clunky
Grim Feast aura is a very good adaption to this build if you get to 160 spirit, making mob kills drop es which can overflow your es - I am running around with a very similiar build to yours and most of the time i have double my max es because of this overflowing thing :)
yeah iv been using it lately and its the best addition ever to the build. Good thinking
@@Doth_ how did you get the extra spirit needed? As you do not have the armor and i think only amulet has spirit other than, or?
@Lagencie yep amulet
Thanks so much for your work. Im falling in love with this build. Already 3 char at level 75. This one is for me. Dont know what to choose between infernalist or bloodmage and try to do a crit chaos.
Very interesting build! Great source for ideas for me, I'm trying to build on the chaos dots and I think this will help me figure that out.
Thank you for the effort!
At what level should i start using demon form effectively and respec passives?
Once you get your second ascendancy (ugh chaos dungeon). Those 4 points will cap it. You can start slaughtering. From there, once you get a ghostwrithe, you can begin to uncap the stacks and get maybe 60.
Hey Doth ! thanks for your build !
Why did you take for the Venom Draught on act 3 and act 3 cruel ?
@Nobzou_ I think I forgot to do act 3s quest so thanks for the reminder. But act 3 cruel I took chaos res
If you can, tell me what you take act 3 normal haha :p
This looks great. Sorry if I misunderstood, but what is essence drain actually doing here? Just ST in long fights?
Im new to POE, so i might not be aware of some mechanics but here's my 2 cents since im playing the same build:
1) Temporal chains is great and feels like it gives you more with the mob's slowed animations than enfeeble, i also run increased curse effectivness
2) 30% damage on hindered enemies in the passive tree is really good for hexblast, maybe less so for you, since you run poisons/contagion
3) Mana Tempest with premeditation/arcane surge is great to throw under you when fighting bosses/yellows, as long as you can manage the mana, i do that by having flask with mana charges on kill
And the more questionable one: it feels like the far right node with +1 to all chaos skills is the biggest dps boost, even if we're getting +5 levels from demon form.
1. nothing wrong with temporal chains and actually it benefits the offense because it makes damage over times last longer. I just prefer a higher effective hp. you must have a lot of spirit to run all that XD im jealous
2.its good. just didnt make the cut
3.mana tempest turns your chaos damage into lightning damage so it loses your from all your chaos, despair, and withered so dont totally understand why if you can elaborate
4. youre not wrong. i could take away the levels from the left most chaos damage cluster. Its just even more mana cost is why I didn't
So I was thinking about converting portions of my DMG to lightning and if the secondary curse you're running is conductivity then running mana tempest could definitely boost DPS I think 😊.
Also I'm not very experienced into Poe but I think that dipping dmg in chaos & lightning can help fall chaos resistant ennemies.
And also @Doth_ many thanks for your build update I ran hexblast and it did blast through the campaign, I'm now running into maps
I think there’s a max life is set to 1 node and it makes you immune to chaos damage so I think maybe that’d help with the poison being scary
Lets hope our build is now top meta Tier with todays buffs lol
Ive seen on reddit people use 2x Ming's Heart as well for rings, then use Pyromaniac Pact + Eternal Youth combo to manage killing yourself from spamming skills.
yeah ill probably move to something like that. This build is very comfortable where you dont have to spam flasks but if you take off the limiters every spell will go brrr
How did you get Blasphemy to work while in Demon form? Seems like I have tried everything. I have enough spirit without weapons but when I enter Demon form but it seems like the allocated spirit towards Blasphemy and the socketed curse get turned off.
Theres usually a red ! On the skill on the skill gem screen that tells you what the problem is
Having this same issue, no alerts.
Is it possible to make a condensed version of the video? So we Can copy the build faster ?
Suggestion. Try essence drain with chains and scatter shot + chaotic freeze. It will spread that freeze faster. Does drop your ED dmg but im theory most of your damage is coming from HB.
I was doing the exact same build as you but i opted for a max recoup life when damage taken and then go straight for the firemana ascendancy. Spam abilities, recoup life, avoid mana, sustain demonform.
if my calcs are right, u can get up to %80+ recoup on damage taken.
are you using wand or using a staff for + on chaos spells?
Good stuff! I appreciate all the detail here. Definitely a fan of trying to make blackflame work to go full DoT. I gotta say, the way the demon form nodes are structured seems really backwards to me. I feel like the first node should be demon form + cap at 10, and the next node should be unlimited demon form. Being "unleashed" with one point and "contained" with 2 makes zero sense to me. I suspect that peak demon form won't include the 10 cap node, but I can see how challenging it would be to sustain / would also require a bit more management with having to re-enter demon form once you hit that 1 life. Unfortunately, even if we go 1 node into demon form + 2 nodes for pyromantic pact + ignite, it doesn't seem that we have a great option for the last ascendancy points. Seething body doesn't seem particularly attractive and grinning immolation, even if it was useful somehow, seems brutal to sustain on top of demon form + pact. Maybe loyal pupper for some mitigation and utility / use it to somehow incorporate freeze + freeze related damage supports, idk. Looking forward to seeing where you take this, planning on farming some gold and respecing out of minions to experiment with this as well!
Yeah, her ascendancy is really weird and all over the place, but I love it. I feel like I have a ton of choices and I have a ton of ideas for her because of it. I think her demon form will get changed because it's absurdly strong, and the pyromantic pact probably shouldn't ignite you because it makes it even harder to make work
Hi, I like your build a lot. There's an item called The Devouring Diadem Wicker Tiara, which has every 3% consume a nearby corpse to recover 20% of life. If this item works with demon form, then maybe you can spec into max life/armor and have a smoother ride.
Theres no corpses in boss room :(
Any tips on someone leveling up that wants to get to this point smoothly? Lots of minion leveling builds out there, but they don't seem to build the same way.
Thoughts on The Burden of Shadows staff, @Doth_?
Tried temp chain instead of enfeeble? Increases duration of dot and poison?
@@harunhasic2180 you're so right. Taking less damage is so nice though. Most of the damage comes from the hexblast hits anyway
any chance you remember the order to get conservative casting as anoint?
@@emilianoneboloso4906 hold alt on the node on the passive tree
@@Doth_ thank you
When you use Hexblast on the enemy, does Blasphemy reapply it instantly or do you have to leave range and return to reapply it? Couldn't quite tell while watching your gameplay
it will reapply instantly - no need to leave range!
@@Tsushibi Does Hexblast support echo?
@@zilalapsa yes it does!
Yo men, i am level 60 with a similar build, you just solve my "issues" :) Thanks !
What about the last ascendancy ?
Do you have any guide for leveling?
I've been looking for a good Demon form build so I'm excited to see this working out, at least as well as it can in its current state. I was really hoping to see if I could do a fire demon form build using Fireblast or something similar. Would you say that is viable here, or are there only benefits to chaos damage for witch at the moment?
yeah i think there are builds like this on youtube. Really if you dont cap your maximum demonflame at 10 any spell goes brrr
Alright maybe I m just borderline noobed. I m in my cruel playtrough right now with level 50 and thought I was super smart figuring out my hound fire gasbomb combo. But playing it to act 2 and 3 got me bored reaaaaally quick. Saw your video and thought wow. Super funny with curses and the form! (Couldn’t make any use of the demon form till then). I m still lacking stuff and I can t kill shit right now …. But I m unkillable which is … something? My point is I felt so bored simply pressing my poison arrow over and over. While this build also doesn’t have that much skills to press I really enjoy it and it feels less repetitive for me. Chaos and curses and hexing just feels very whichy for me which gives me a lot of joy. … also I mean a skill that gives me a cool form!
I just read people complaining that it doesn’t kill stuff fast enough but well on your screen it seems like everything dies pretty fast almost instantly except bosses? Maybe having no comparison to other classes is a bliss sometimes I guess!
I for once really enjoy your build. It feeds my class fantasies and hopefully once I hit the last essential points I can also kill stuff quicker SOOOO nice work! Can’t wait to curse my weak ass to the endgame.
@tobiasbollig6394 yeah you do gotta press hexblast a lot. You can take off the maximum 10 demon flame and it will help your damage and get you to press your health flask a lot more
And yes I really enjoy the tankyness of this build in a game where dying has major consequences
@@Doth_ got a 21 life reg amulet now it s smoothing! i just don t know what to socket! do you just socket resistances and .. just go from there to get items without that resistence? don t know what to socket in my chest. got one with 31 chaos reduction and 2 slots.. thinking of corrupting it!
@tobiasbollig6394 Start with rings for your resistances since they can get the most since the sapphire, ruby, topaz, and prismatic ring have resistances on their implict. Just try and get as much as you can on them and maybe a good amount of life regeneration on then too so you can take off the 10 maximum demon flame in the future. Then just try and fill out resistances on the rest of your gear. Socket runes last
@ jeah I tried the sekhemas trial to get my third ascension today for the resistance … got a minor debuff* no energy shield and got one shotted xD
do poison stacks count for the totems projectiles do u get more if it has posion on the enemy?
Thoughts on adding Deadly Poison to Hexblast?
Do you know about the chest item "Tetzlapokal's Desire"? I think it could be godly to keep you in demon form for longer since you're already scaling energy shield. What do you think?
cant recharge life when its being lost
@@Doth_ Man I thought I was cooking with this one. And I suppose it also wouldn't work over the life loss even if you kickstart it with like a flask or something? :/
@@Doth_ What about using "The Covenant" and simply leech the life back? The ever ramping spell damage would just make the leech stronger and stronger, also negating the added life cost in the process
@captaincakes3131 sounds inconsistent, and you lose a ton of ES and chaos res
@@Doth_ True, true... Are there other sources of spell damage into life leech that you may know about?
I am curious if that build would work on chronomancer ascendancy, to stack slow even further (and use temporal curse instead of enfeeble maybe)
I reroll chrono becuase it sucks hard. Crono is good as a support for party play or a cooldown refresher. I tried all the varients builds for Crono (millions of gold spend) and after the CoF nerf it's hard for her.
U need a broken build for her to work as u will only take recoup and slow aura nods for normal builds. Temporal Rift is anti sinnergy whit recoup as it takes u back in time and u need to recoup again or mitigate the damage totally (then why need recoup?), the cast speed is so bad its like driving on the street that is full of stops at every 8 seconds.
The slow aura is her best ascendancy point (if you don't play support or CD builds), but it's not enough. You need investments like "slow magnitude" or temp chains like you said. Keep in mind that if you take recoup nods, you also need to invest in recoup for it to feel good, and that's a huge downside once again.
Other take points to instant boost, Crono takes points to creat builds around them by investing in those nods.
I know you want her to work, but at least for my brain, it's hard. I hope some will come with a nice build for her (I'll definitely go for her then), or GGG may fix her when the ascendancy patch comes.
www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hbq7hy/current_top1000_ladder_class_distribution/ this answers your question
@@rusudenes8549 Ah damn, and here I started to play sorceress precisely because I thought this particular build would work nicely with Chrono. Although primarily I liked additional slow, assuming hexblast/poison/contagion will cover damage and it would be super fun to slow mobs to a crawl. Didn't even think about recoup, as I was aiming to have MoM for protection (instead of energy shield like in this build). I think I'll still try it, but now I am prepared to be disappointed. Thank you. :)
@@Doth_ yeah, but in theory exactly your build (although I was thinking MoM as defense rather than energy shield) seems to synergize quite nicely with Chrono. I am trying it now (meaning - leveling sorceress), but I am ready to be disappointed then. :)
@@Skellum_ as long as youre having fun with it. Im sure you can get enemies to move super slow and it will be funny
How are you getting the blasphemy buff in demon form? Its not working for me.
First you need to have enough spirit (you don't have your weapons stats) and right click to activate it in your skills.
Go fight the 3 bosses that grant permanent 30 Spirit. Get spirit on an amulet and push it to 120(135 if you got big pockets). That'll sustain blasphemy and a few others.
What do we do with our 7th and 8th ascendancy points? I don't see you saying where to put them.
Decided to go capped demon flame instead of uncapped?
Hi Doth, i just don't understand where you get that Dex and Str, can u explain it? You don't have nodes in skill tree and neither have status on your equip. I m curious cause i need for my build. Thankss💪🏼
there is +18 to all atributes on my amulet. I have a different amulet now and i have dex on my tree and str on my belt. Just gotta make it work somehow
@Doth_ oh thank you so much, I didn't see it and I rewatch a few times, I'm blind ahah
My witch build in previous POE was done so I could use her like Saryn Prime from Warframe. Love contagion DOT spread attacks
Would you recommend going crit over poison if using weapons instead of form?
Have you tried using temp chains instead of enfeeble?
thx for some funky build, try to respec from visual hell minion arcanist
u have any pob or link for passive tree?
Not yet
I have a question about Dark Effigy, it only shoots on mobs with an chaos dot debuff? so only debuff i can see here with dot chaos is essence drain? so u must shoot an every mob? or what iam i missing here?
Thanks man, currently leveling with a similar build (using hellhound for survivability). Question: since hexblast can only blast 1 curse, is the 2 curse passive worth it?
I only have the second curse so I take less damage. If you can't make it work yet or don't want to, you can skip out on it
But DOTs do not scale with spell damage, unless otherwise stated on the gem...
ED specifically mentions that spell dmg also applies to the DOT debuff.
Poison does not scale with the spell dmg received from the demon form... only from +lvl (which increases the initial hit of the poison inflicting ability)
Poison doesn't get a multiplier from spell damage, but the +spell dmg should increase the Magnitude of poison inflicted by the hit of hexblast, albeit with a 0.2 multiplier.
The hit damage of hexblast scales the poison. Hexblast hit damage is scaled by spell damage
hey did you pick up the Permanent HP Buff Act 1(+20 Maximum Life) and Act 1 Cruel (8% Maximum Life) ? i wanna make a demon form build but i picked these up :( will this hurt the build alot?
@saikikdosntexist I did not by accident so I got lucky. It won't cripple the build but it does hurt it
@@Doth_ ok thx bro, i just made a new witch , i wanna do 2 witch builds anyways :))
There is a big node by monk start that makes life flask work on ES instead. Seems not a lot of people know this
Is it possible to make good chaos damage/minion build? I don't know how viable it would be but it seems the most compelling to me.
yes, but since most of your points will go into curses/chaos/minions there'll be nothing left for you, so it will be a glass cannon build.
And canons effectiveness against bosses will be really questionable... Against mobs should be ok
Sorry for my newb question , im new to the game but how do you put poison to your hexblast :)?
@@saltriver1401 support gem and on the passive tree but the support gem is good enough
@@Doth_ what the name of the support gem?
How does it do in Breaches? Im stuck on them, and get overwhelmed easily.
@yzwme586 finish the map first so you get your progress towards atlas, clear a good runway, stay on the outside if the break at all times and don't get greedy. That's what I did till my build was good enough to stay inside and even then it's still scary
@@Doth_ good advice, i appreciate it
Thought about using Unearth to spread withering + Contagion to focus on Chaos?
took out unearth because its more buttons and the minions just die but I might put it back in soon mostly for cc but what you said is a great+ and reason to use it also
33:42 this is where to start the video everyone
Is there a leveling guide for this build?
I tried to do something like this. I was spec’ing for only chaos damage but both mobbing and bossing felt incredibly slow and most boss fights were a struggle. Maybe I just gave up on it a bit too quickly? I made it to level 29 before wanting to try something else.
how do you have unleash support gem on Contagion? I cant put it on mine.
Does speccing into Chaos Inoculation mean that you cant die to poison anymore? (Since Poison damage is considered to be Chaos damage from what I hear) and if so, is there any point to building Chaos damage resist if youre gonna go that route anyways?
If you pick Chaos Inoculation then chaos resist is useless. But note that demon form ends at 1hp
@Mystra im following this build but im gonna not spec into demon form
gonna run it as a caster
Hmmm, one thing I don't get - why do we actually need contagion for the combo? damage is very low, I assume poison damage is quite low too, main damage then is Curse into Hexblast. The only reason I see for contagion/poison is to make dark effigy shoot mobs faster, which would apply wither stacks. Is that it?
U are wrong, the damage u see is done by the poison. Hexblast doses less dmg with the nerf but enough to proc high poison dmg. Contagion is only there for spreading poison and applying build-up freez to freeze, because chaos dmg can only freeze and not stun (it's hard without investment in to stun).
Also, adding poison in to the mix is easyer to find dmg nods and push harder content.
hexblast is very good on its own and you can use it as such. When pack density gets high spreading around chaos dot is very useful and will do a ton of damage
Did envenom nerf effect this build damage by alot? I feel like the poison is less potent for some reason
I'm really sorry, but I really can't wrap my head around your permanent demon form. Is that from the second ascendency? The one that caps your flames at 10? (and i'm guessing the upside for it is not taking damage anymore)
The amount of life you lose is a percentage of your total. So if you have a small amount of life you lose a small amount per second. He has regen that is higher than the amount he loses. If he has 500 life he will only lose 25 life per second (5%). His amulet gives him flat 22 life per second and then a few other gear pieces have life regen too
@ oh, gotcha! Big thanks, for taking the time, really appreciate it.
thanks for the video, i like to see your build and compare with mine, so i can change a little things
Do you ever feel that the demon form's hitbox is larger than human form? I constantly get stuck between mobs as if the hitbox fix was not applied to demon form
@@robacow idk I have played the game in demon form since it came out. It's very possible
How does this fare against the spark version? Is it just a flavor or does this actually do more than doing archmage spark?
spark is op :D