I've been Excommunicated
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- On 30th September 2024, I was excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The reasoning for this decision is as confusing as it is vague.
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Nemo, I'm so sorry. Remember it is Heavenly Father who allows your family to be together forever, not man made records on earth. Thank you for standing up for truth!
the human famley 🌎
If you look at the church, from the beginning it was as per a good play, 'Religion mixed with the knowledge of Man.'
The concept of a heavenly father unfortunately then gets attached to this concept as well.
This is what the church leadership has attached to their teachings.
I’m a former Mormon who is atheist now but this is still very touching of you and reminds me of the good parts of belief.
@@ZackyDaley governments and religions have used their different forms of indoctrination so that people don't have faith in god. They made god this "holier than thou" guy that lives far away doesn't want to live with his earthly famley" I'm sorry they stole your faith. Sorry they taught you the wrong things. Most people have never been able to accept me because of the things that they were taught
In fact you are likely to now think oh my gosh a crazy guy
Instead of thinking about the actual morality of where god would live
I'm making a video about heaven now
But if you'd like to see how you've been deceived in ways you may not be aware of I have a few videos my newest
its just about 5 or 6 minutes
@@ZackyDaley or you could pretend I don't exist and didn't say anything
hehehahaha 😄
I'm rather used to failure but for whatever reason I just don't seem to give up
Might have something to do with
loving our human famley 🌎🤗💕
Make sure you are taking care of yourself through all this. I can only imagine the physical and emotional toll this takes, so make sure to extend yourself compassion and grace through this process. I imagine there is a lot of grief so be patient with yourself and take breaks when you need them 🩵
What is the law regarding “whistleblowers?”
It's what he wants, why would it bother him?
@@HJBL1964 are you sure about that?
@@JordanandMcKay..... Jordan and Mckay.. You maliciously SLANDERED my noble ex-Mormon friend (by deliberately repeating Mormon defamation and character assassination of her) on your podcast, so I have NO respect for you. Known as "The Gloria Steinem of BYU" and "The Erin Brickovich of Mormonism", my friend is the bravest anti-Mormon of all times, and is quite famous.
Now her explosive story is being made into a book and movie which will expose the Mormon cult to the whole world in a feature film with talk shows, news articles, and massive international publicity. Her tragic untold story of her traumatic ordeal with Mormonism will reach more people than silly podcasts ever could.
@@syfields8154 all those words to describe someone and I have no fucking clue who you’re talking about lmao
Whelp, not surprised but truly saddened. All the best to you Nimo in the next phase of your journey. Cheers mate.
A little PO'd by your announcement. You are a truther. I am 72 this month and believe I will have my name removed, just like NEMO. Sending our love from Utah.
Please don’t have your name removed, hold to the truth you know
@@utahman112 Its NOT up to you is it? Remember how we are taught 'free agency'? That is one thing YOU or the so called true church CAN'T TAKE AWAY.
@@kirkharrington1508 you’re right it’s not up to me. I’m just using persuasion the same way Nemo does, right?
@@utahman112Surely you jest. At 73 I resigned two weeks ago and it was accepted the next day. The only truth in the church is that there are many good people in it.
Only a WEAK religion, worshiping a false god, cannot withstand the questions of a good and righteous man.
Only G*d determines salvation, not man.
I’ve been out of the church for many years, but I teared up watching the online vigil last week. I’m sorry this has happened to you. Thank you for doing what they taught us in primary so long ago… choosing the right and letting the consequences follow. You’re a hero to so many of us. Much love from Texas.
Did you serve a mission in the Paisly stake Scotland in the late 1970s David Johnstone?
Your story sounds somewhat similar to mine.
Living in Central TX. Converted as a youth then left over 2 decades ago.
I've listened to many of Nemo's discussions here and listened to his comments as a guest on Dr Dehlin's channel.
I've enjoyed his highly inquisitive, dry humor and nonconfrontational style. He simply wanted people still active in this church to discuss their hidden history and controversial decisions in recent times without going on the attack. In the end he was condemned and permanently dismissed from his membership for trying to be a space for open dialog. 😢💔
The actions of the LDS Church weren't surprising yet they were deeply hurtful.
In retrospect it confirmed how little the culture of the church administration at the highest levels had changed.
Leaving was definitely the right decision for me!
Don't leave the church. Its a Beautiful way of life. I know from living in a family from H.e.1.1. and that is an understatement.
The Church is TRUE. However, Church is a covenant from Christ. The MEN are Human and NOT perfect.
Divide and Conquer or loose your testimony which won't be wonderful on the Judgement day.
I am not tickled pink with the leaders. I did receive a testimony which I didn't understand for over 6 months. Then, BANG, a BRILLIANT revelation.
I do support the leaders, They make claims. If the claims are false, they fill face judgements on Judgement day. So, I support leaders like Depends diapers. It may be "CRAPPY", however, It does a wonderful job
They had already decided in advance. I don’t think anything you could have said or done would have changed that. They were just going through the motions.
That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking. The verdict was already reached even before the court hearing. Nemo was guilty even before he received the first letter.
The verdict is determined by the person called to the council.
@@FaithCrisisSurvivor no it’s not and you know it!
Classic kangaroo court proceeding
Yup an authoritarian show trial.
His ousting from the church was decided in Salt Lake, long before the "court of love" was convened. It was just a pretense dog and pony show to make it look like local leadership decided his fate. I don't think Oaks cared very much for Nemo pointing out an opposing vote does absolutely nothing.
Edit: and showing up at Fairview certainly put the eye on him even more.
Absolutely, it's all bullshit.
I think him becoming a voice for/about Mormonism in the UK was also a major concern.
@@robertb6889 no doubt about it.
I agree! It came from on high and I think Nemo exposing the church’s financial dealings also had a lot to do with it.
It may have gone to SLC but who knows. It could also be local UK members complaining to the stake president about NEMO's platform.
So now we know asking unapproved questions and challenging leaders will be punished.. but bad behavior gets swept under the rug.
You are never allowed to question anything. If you do you get told to not worry about it.
The two true cardinal sins of Mormonism are 1. Making them look bad and 2. Costing them money.
Yes! It’s not a good organization! Why is ANYONE SURPRISED. It’s like you’ve all taken crazy juice, did anyone actually think the LDS church would NOT ex him? It’s like yall forgot what that organization is.
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Hogwash. That's pure dishonety. This has nothing to do with asking questions. This is all a game for you guys to pretend commiserate you because a group you hate has said ok, then go.
The truth can withstand being questioned... lies can't withstand being challenged. It's so frustrating and violent. I'm so sorry.
Violent? And yr crocodile tears
@@Cyrusmagiemotionally so very much yes.
@@ryangarrard3135 Hahahahahaha. Someone doesn't know what the word "violence" means...
Much love. Best of luck.
Nemo! You're the top story on the Salt Lake Tribune's website!
That's awesome!!! I don't see that newspaper since it's subscription, but I know a lot of people do so that's amazing!
NeverMo here. I really can’t even fathom the emotions you must be enduring. My heart goes out to you, Nemo.
Really? He has hated the organization for years, and only maintained his membership for views. He's only glad because someone finally followed through so he can use it in his podcast.
@@RichardChappell1 with all due respect, bite me. Yes, really. My heart goes out to him.
@@OhanaLulu Why be so dishonest? He got what he wanted - that's there to be sad about. It's all silly play acting - just as you're doing now.
@@RichardChappell1 Keep telling yourself that, if it comforts you. But a person is offering up love and support, and you come in here very aggressively tearing people down. Do you believe in Christ?
@@RichardChappell1 you don’t know me at all. I’m new, VERY new, to Nemo’s channel. Actually, very new to all things Mormon. My heart does go out to him. You don’t believe that my heart goes out to him the same way I don’t believe Joseph Smith was a prophet. Soooo, here we are. Why would Nemo want to be excommunicated when he could just leave willingly with the TONS of others who’ve become so popular recently for leaving on their own? Surely you’re aware of them. I can tell you spend a LOT of time trolling channels like this.
@Nemo, will you be publicly sharing your 8500 word document? Would love to read it if you’re able or comfortable sharing it. Wishing you all the best, Nemo! ❤
30 minutes in I've recognized on the side of the church, unhealthy relationship behavior such as
1. Gaslighting.
2. Bate and switch.
3. Accusations without fact and truth.
4. Discard with a hook in.
5. Lack of critical thinking.
6. Isolation of the individual.
All under the umbrella of love.
It reminds me of disfunctional family dynamics, where they scapegoat the truth telling child.
Haha. Proof? U weren't there
One word. Cult
@@slickmullet3891 lol. Everything's a cult
@@Thomas123-c1v Of course there's no proof. They are just jumping on the bigotry ship. Nemo set this up expressly for that purpose. It gets him views and comments.
@@Thomas123-c1v Yeah, but there's no cult like Anti-mos. You don't even have to make stuff up to have them fit the definition.
Please don’t discount the fact that you have been traumatized, Britishness notwithstanding . PTSD is real, just watch Natasha, Bill, John, and others as they react to their own trauma, even years later. Please take time for self care. Even if you were a Messiah, Jesus exhibited trauma on multiple occasions. You are loved. You still have a community. Take care of your wife too. PTSD doesn’t differentiate.
Traumatised? He has led them into this for years, clever and subtle but don't be fooled by his faux genuine
@@Kerry-f3c I take it you missed all of the years of Primary where they taught about loving one another.
@@TrixieDlight loving one another doesn't mean you align with someones views, opinions and attempts to masquerade as something else - thats naivety. Even the perfect one called out people as "vipers" "hypocrites" and "fools" - He still loved though
Trauma? 😂😂😂 Nonsense
@@TrixieDlight
If Nemo was being honest, he wouldn’t have experienced any trauma. So it’s either Nemo putting on a dishonest act, or his claim he intends to cause an internal rebellion is just a lie. He’s kept lying one way or another.
Supporting your efforts to report the truth.
@ChrisFBartlett quiet cowardly hypocrite.
To quote Churchill. This is only the end of the beginning.
or in this case for the lds church the beginning of the end.
And when he’s back in Chicago
Nemo, you possess integrity, intelligence, morals, kindness and love. They don't deserve to have you in their midst.
I am sorry you have been dragged through the mud, muck and mire of their dogma and hate. Sending hugs from Oklahoma. ❤
Bro lives with his mom in the basement. Not much intelligence exhibited by being an anti Mormon.
No Nemo was out to destroy faith.
@@Thomas123-c1vif faith is so weak that it can be destroyed by sharing the words of modern prophets contradicting each other - then maybe it should be destroyed but Nemo didn’t do it. LDS leaders did it by what they say. You’re shooting the messenger and ignoring the message.
@@Thomas123-c1v if truth can destroy faith, I'm thrilled I'm out. He has never said a lie nor has he besmirched the "good name' of the cult. J. Reuben Clark said if it can be harmed by the truth, it doesn't deserve to exist. (General idea, and even he waa a bigot.) Go peddle your crap elsewhere troll.
@@Thomas123-c1v.... Nemo didn't lie about Mormon corruption. Like my friend, he just pointed out (on his podcast) what we Old Time Mormon-fighters already KNEW! And his podcast brought many Mormons OUT of the cult, thank God. Nemo shouldn't be surprised they ex'd him. They don't like Bad PR, which is the ONLY way to fight their tyrannical power. The Mormon hierarchy HATES being embarressed. You should hear what they did to my outspoken anti-Mormon friend. Using their powerful PR Machine, they have spent millions for years to discredit her (and
slander her) with malicious character assassination in the international media. She was on their Top Ten Hit List in the church office building's wall. She is to Mormonism as Leah Remini is to Scientology. And now her story is being made into a book and film. Revenge is sweet!
I am sorry for your pain. I resigned when i found out the lies President Hickley and my ex husband's family told about paying my children's child support in order for my ex to get rebaptised. One word is integrity. I will not be part of an organization that doesn't have integrity. Lying for the Lord is an awful term. My Heavenly Father does not need his children to lie for him. He knows all. I love your integrity and moral compass. Don't change. You are a diamond. Keep shining.
Wow. That's sick that they would do that. I would think that would make his baptism illegitimate.
You have been, are and will continue to be a faith builder: faith in truth, faith in progress, faith in compassion and love. With endless respect and gratitude.
My former bishop husband said a high council court was denied when the demand for the court came from salt lake. That was his experience from 25 years ago.
Nemo, you just continue to be on my mind….I hope these difficult days ease soon. I am so glad to see you have such a loving community around you. Take care of yourself ❤
Difficult? He's been planning this for years. He's had his scripts and plans in place for quite a while.
I was excommunicated years ago and cane back several years later for my dad. We are now out. Never to return. You are a hero to us.
My condolences 💐
Nemo watching all of this happen to you has given me the courage to finally ask my Dad about the process of his excommunication process. He did eventually get rebaptised and is a member in full standing now with his priesthood and temple recommended. I was too hurt at the time that it happened although I was witness to all of it. Thank you for being so vulnerable and willing to share all of this. Sending all the love and support ❤
Who gave anyone the keys to your salvation? Christ only died for your salvation. He only has that key. Their so called authority means nothing and is irrelevant. You just got kicked out of the corporation club.
Born and raised in this CULTture I was a temple mormon for decades. Right here where good ole Brigham settled in the land of Zion!! We are conditioned over many years to believe these are secret "Keys" to get to heaven. When I discovered these KEYS (secret chants and handshakes) were brought over by the Masons, that JoeSmith was once a mason, And realized no one handshakes to heaven I too was threatened ex-communication. I had my name and LD$/Auschwitz number removed.
Amen
Absolutely correct
The MASONS did. Thats where JoeSmith got all his ideas & ritiuals
Jesus is the only keeper of the gate and He loves YOU!
Biggest irony….they are accusing you for what they themselves are guilty of…causing members of the church to lose their faith when they discover the massive deceit!….overseen by them….INTENTIONALLY,
Where is the proof any of the mistakes were intentional. Proof me now here with?
It is called projection.
@@Cyrusmagi there's a lot of covering up of the actual history of the church or the truth claims.
@@Cyrusmagiwhen the presiding bishop says we didn’t want to tell anyone about the “rainy day fund” because we didn’t want them to stop paying tithing is one example of intentional deception. The creation of and continued use of a correlation committee is intentional and deceptive. When president hinkley told members tithing wasn’t being used and wouldn’t be used for the City Creek project that was worded with intentional deception. The SEC filing found that the church used shell companies to intentionally deceive about the use of funds. When the church told members to testify about how tall steeples are an important part of our worship that was intended to deceive the city council in Texas. Really the list is endless showcasing intentional deception by leaders and representatives of the church and I think you yourself may have been deceived as well. I know I was.
@@Cyrusmagi Mistakes? LOL. The truth about the lies has been released over and over for YEARS and the church has excommunicated people for telling them. And then they f-ing released everything in Gospel Topics Essays. FFS...they were not mistakes. THEY HID THE TRUTH INTENTIONALLY TO FOOL PEOPLE. WAKE UP.
I’m so sorry that this happened to you Nemo. You have a lot of love and support out there for you. I’m not sure what your views are, but as a minister I pray that you find peace and comfort soon. I know this is hard but you will ultimately write a much better chapter to your life. The LDS church’s loss is your gain, you have real talent and you are a class act.
My heart goes out to you ❤ Keep fighting the good fight, you have helped so many people already through your advocacy and your TH-cam channel and I hope you can take comfort in that❤
Nemo, thank you for your honesty and integrity. If only the leaders of the church/corporation could follow your example. Take care and know you are appreciated and loved.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
You’re a freaking legend, Nemo!
Only to reprobates and their supporters
Nemo, if this hasn't been addressed already, please consider posting your rebuttal to the court for the rest of us to read, thank you.
Congratulations on you 10% raise, but sorry you had to go through that mess the way you did.
Nemo hasn't paid a tithe for years. All is good. He can continue making his income by pandering to haters.
@@blakeforeman7648I would also not pay to a Corporation to build shopping malls and buy Amazon storehouses. That's not the Church described in the new testament.
@charlesmendeley9823 - Considering that Amazon didn't exist during the Old and New Testament times, one shouldn't expect it would be mentioned in the Bible. But what IS mentioned in the Bible is Christ's parable of the talents, where the Master asks his servants to invest wisely to increase their portion and principle. Nowadays, successful investments like a shopping mall generate income and interest which can be re-invested in items that directly pertain to the work of Church, such as buiding places of worship like Temples, and providing vast global humanitarian support. What IS mentioned in the Bible is the account of Joseph in Eqypt storing up large supplies in time of plenty to be prepared for times of famine. When lean times came, Egypt had enough for Egypt AND to share with neighboring countries. Nowadays huge warehouses can help store up the plenty. At least one of the former Amazon warehouses has many shipping and loading bays, large enough for a semi truck to back into each bay. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints maintains a huge fleet of semi trucks to be filled to the brim with food and supplies to serve communities in need across the United States, or are ready to drive to an airport or shipping dock to send to communities in need around the world. Someday you might even receive some of that food and those supplies yourself if you face a natural disaster or some other catastrophe.
THE END?
I think is just the beginning!!
Love it!
A young, British John Dehlin. ❤️
@@charlesmendeley9823 Just like John Dehlin is now John Delusional. Douglas Stilgoe will become Douglas Stilgocrazy. The only thing this guy serves is those that hate the church and call it activism.
@@charlesmendeley9823Is John Dehlin is an aspiration now? Dear Lord!
@@Coastal1931 John Dehlin wants to resolve the issues in the church, such as lack of transparency or financial misuse of tithing. Nemo has the same aspirations.
Non Mormon Christian here (Lutheran) thanking you and saying a prayer for you. May God be with you always.
The man was held accountable for telling the truth. Something IS rotten in the state of Denmark.
I am so sorry for your loss, nemo. I know you were hoping for a different outcome and to be honest you deserved one. I also believe this is a time of creativity and transformation for you and that we will all be the better for it. I speak as an ex mormon. I've been out of the church for over 30 years now after being a member for 20 years. I chose to resign my membership rather than go through excommunication because I wanted to control the narrative of leaving the church rather than letting them have the narrative . I have no regrets. Give yourself time to process lean on your friends. They will be there for you.❤
I'm so sorry you're going through all this. ❤ You're brave as hell
Nemo,
You are so much more than the identity you have through the church. I know its hard to see that right now. You are worthy and great and an amazing member of the human family. As an exmo, exmish....brother, you are NOT ALONE. Much love from Arizona, USA.
You made a very relevant point about it being one's identity. That's a huge factor, and I dare say, the most challenging thing when one leaves the church.
Nemo… when I was excommunicated, my bishop told me to set up a savings account at my bank and put my “tithes “ in that account and when I come back in one year and one day. I can pay my “past “ tithing. I had a time frame. I didn’t do that.
That’s freaking bonkers he would say or even think to have you do such a thing. Tell him to get his own bank account and stick it u know where.
Now tell the rest of the story. You know that isn't it and you've taken it out of context here for validation and to claim fellow victimhood.
@@RichardChappell1whatever. Never considered myself a victim. Just a fact from this bishop in 1981. You must be a TBM.
They never cease to shock and amaze me in regard to money. Unbelievable!
@@susiekathryn8570 Yeah. sure. Just as you misrepresented your "story" so you could show victimization. Even if I wasn't TBM and just non-bigoted, that would be evident. You know as well I I do that your Bishop told you that in a conversation in response to your discussions.
You have been been stifled by a paternalistic,misogynistic MLM that is about as far removed from a message of love compassion and inclusion and Christ’s teachings as is humanly possible.
The worst always expels the best.
@cabrown308- How is the Church's decision stifling to Nemo? Now he's no longer a member he can continue to say whatever he wants without fear of consequences. This must seem very freeing for him even though he pretends to be sad about no longer being in an organization he has never acted like a member of since he started this channel. As a member myself, I hope Nemo will have the desire to return enough to guide his words and actions.
MLM (multi level marketing to heaven) is a fear based reality for those who were ever believers. Living in Salt Lake City Utah as a temple mormon it was tough to step out. Our friends, loved ones, authority figures everywhere will and do prosecute in many ways. Not to mention "god is coming and we will all die" FEAR BASED CULTtures keep us in~ Im OUT
@@micheleh3851You mean he may talk about Freemasonry?
@@charlesmendeley9823 - Freemasonry is not part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Nemo is no longer a member. He can talk about whatever he wants with no consequences from the Church unless he ever wants to ever get re-baptized and start over as a new member. To re-join he cannot continue his aspostate format of this channel where he continues the behavior as described in the letter from the Council with their decision.
@@micheleh3851 Freemasonry is intricately linked to the LDS Church. Joseph reflects anti-Masonic sentiment in the "secret combinations" described in the Book of Mormon, which also pinpoints the writing date after the William Morgan affair (1826). Moreover, it strongly influenced temple ceremony because many men in the Nauvoo period were Masons. The tide changed in salt lake City, because Brigham Young assumed Joseph Smith had been killed by Masons, stirring an enmity between the two groups. I recommend reading "method infinite" by Cheryl Bruno.
I’m so sorry this makes me feel so strongly that the brethren don’t deserve our loyalty and support. It’s such a shame that members are so disempowered in the church.
Thank you for your comment. As a member that’s been heartbroken and let down by my leaders I feel like I had no power or choice. I haven’t been back in a while and my leaders won’t reach out to me after they publicly embarrassed me during a sacrament service.
Sending you all my love Nemo. I wish you would have gotten the outcome you desired and deserved. Hoping this next season brings you and your family peace, closure and freedom ❤
Please don't stay out of the church. You need more valence. Human support is worthless. If you believe in Jesus Chrjst keep going in the church. The Holy Ghost can help you go forth. When you stop going to church you loose out on having the Holy Ghost to be with you. Jesus will send Him to y ou. You must be valiant. You must obey the lord. But the feeling of the Holy Ghost that feeling that he give ishissign that he's on Mr and get that witnessing from him that gmGod Isreal and Jesus christ is. . You emeere baptized and then told to recieve the Holy Ghost. Please do think of Jesus always. He is your support. The Holy Ghost is a sanctified. He feel lead you to do the right,Jesus christ Right. God knows al . His IQ is. Off the charts Mine is 122. So I am human but I will tell you ,there isn't any person or thing that is like the Godhead and the feeling of the Holy Ghost when he is influencing me. There is an open conduit to the Father and the Son when I think of them and the burning in my hest comes . That is the sign of the Holy Ghost. I love that .
Blessings. I firmly believe you are better off, but I know that won't help now. Take care of yourself in every way you can, and keep those who love you near. I have been so much happier on the other side! And your comeback is so . . . yes, absolutely witty and glib.
@nemo you are better off brother. It takes time to see this, it took me years to heal, but they have no desire to change! You’ll have a greater impact out here helping those cast out of the great and spacious building! 🎉
😂
That building came to mind when I saw parts of the "birthday party" held recently. Shocking OTT veneration, that he lapped up. So far from being "a humble soul"! Yes, so many things rotten (& still rotting) in the state of Denmark!
@@maxhill5197 Not the state of Dennark...the state of UTAH!!!
I'm just here to say and observe how beautiful it is that everyone on the spectrum has come together to embrace Nemo. Nevermos, exmos, pimos, TBMs have all united to show more christlike love than the church ever did. I cried when Bill Reel cried after your vigil.
I love our community here. Nemo thank you for your sacrifices and efforts and creating this space.
❤❤❤
You're a good man Nemo. The outcome was determined before you ever stepped foot inside the room.
I hope you are able to get a nice break and provide yourself with a lot of self-care through this hard time. I am really sorry that it is so painful.
I congratulate you because LDS is controlling and just horrid underneath….and subjugates females……
Based off of Nemo's case, it appears that the only response you're allowed when someone asks why you left the church is "I'm not allowed to tell you that, because you're a member of the church."
Anything greater than that has proven to be an excommunicate-able offense. Let them sit with how creepy that reality is.
Nemo:
“I am going like a lamb to the slaughter, but I am calm as a summer’s morning.
I have a conscience void of offense towards God and towards all men.”
Much love Nemo. I agree with others, it was pre-decided at the top before they ever sent the summons.
I am just amazed that they do not care about abused families but God forbid you tell the truth.
They don't care about abused families?
@phillipcook3430 no they don't
I’m sorry, that’s just a bizarre statement. Nemo commenters sound of more and more like QAnon followers every day. Do you have any dangerous weapons Betty? If so, someone might want to alert the authorities.
This statement is incredibly absurd. Pro Nemo commenters sound more and more like q-anon followers every day I think. Some kind of weird cultish pshycology going on here.
@Coastal1931 No, I was in an abused family. I left the church for me not anyone else. I 💯 think they don't care because women and kids don't matter. I think they booted him because they had egg on their face and the church is a cult or they would delete my information. That's abuse what the church does too.
Congratulations, Nemo the Nomo! Now you can join the other 7.9 billion Earthlings who aren't Mormon.
*members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. what a mouthful to please the whims of the latest leader.
@@YogiTheBearManmembers of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. Please use the full name.
Congratulations Nemo! I know that you have worked so hard and spent so much time and effort to being a good apostate!
Yep! Ready to take it to the next level! 😂
I resigned a few weeks ago, I haven't had any contact with the church since attending my father's funeral. No interest in returning I wrote salt lake. Time to say goodbye. My life goes on. I am incredibly happy, Nemo I believe that you have been accurate and truthfull in your opinions. You have been a breath of fresh air and an inspiration. I don't see you as being anti Mormon. Just trying to make things better for follows of that faith. I wish you well
I have tried so hard to stay respectful of this “institution” over the years but honestly, they just sicken me. It is 100% their loss and honestly they don’t deserve you.
Nemo, stay strong!❤
My wife left the church because of things Russell M. Nelson and other executive leaders have said. Does that mean that they should be excommunicated since they are causing people to leave?
IMO, it was Nemo’s appearance at the Fairview Texas town council that put the nail in the coffin of his membership. Also IMO being excommunicated from the LDS church 99% of the time means you’re on the right side of…well, mostly anything.Badge of Honor.
Around 50% of councils are due to the sexual behavior of members. It was odd in the early ones I was involved in. I was secretary and had to take notes. These councils were handled at the ward level since accused members were not endowed and had not served missions. I was taking notes for the bishop on what sexual details/encounter the accused member was involved in. They would ask things like how many times they had sex (fornication) or cheated on their wife. It was basic human biology but the council made it like it was shameful before God.
If someone cheats on their wife they definitely need a disciplinary council
I'm not so sure about everything else but that's definitely warranted
@@BunnyWatson-k1w “accused members were not endowed” - so not married. So how could they “cheat on their wife”?
@@caseyjude5472 Not all members of the church are sealed to their wives. They are just married on earth only. Plenty of members of the church are married outside the temple, particularly if they are converts. In many wards it is a struggle to get people temple ready before a marriage so the bishop marries them.
What comes to my mind is don’t kill the messenger. Nemo’s right people don’t like being lied to, and the church has been caught in. Many lies.
We are here for you Nemo!
Sorry for your loss and the personal hurt. I can hear the pain and hurt in your voice ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏼👍🏻🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️
Your a legend Nemo! Love ya work
I'm so sorry you had to go through this. 😢
I’m sorry, Nemo. It has to be heartbreaking although you don’t show it. I hope your family will love and support you no matter what. I’ve known the church is not true and it still is upsetting to me after over 40 years of membership.
Well its true when you believe its true.!
Because now you believe its not true
so if you believe now it is not true it must have been true before.
@@CyrusmagiFew share your capacity for delusion.
So much Love to you ! I am sorry this came this way !
They would not listen, they're not listening still.
Perhaps they never will...
Can't help but sing that! ❤ So apt!
They’re listening, trust me. The reality with Nemo and his supporters is the answer will never be accepted unless it’s exactly what you want to hear.
So sorry Nemo. Sending love and support.
Hey Nemo! Thanks for your messages and keeping us updated. 🤍
We love you Nemo, I suspect that you will come to recognize that the church isn’t what it claims to be!
He has recognized that years ago.
As a member of the Church, I wish you well.
I think Nemo's sign off catch phrase should be: Stay Salty. Mostly cause the name Nemo makes me think of the ocean.
I decided to leave the church prior to this. This just cements it more. I am so sad with how good members (just trying to do what is right because we are taught that in the faith) are treated. Jesus weeps.
I am the same as you. Hearing these things helps me, but also shocks me, as to why I wasn't smart enough too see the hypocrisy decades sooner.
I’m sorry you are going through this. Your panelists are excellent!
They don’t excommunicate pedophiles, sex abusers or leaders that have extramarital affairs do
You are sadly correct. A man in our stake choked his wife for using his vintage collectible automobile to pick up their daughter from school since her car would not start. He was not excommunicated.
General authority Paul H. Dunn was not excommunicated, even though he lied about his personal life and accomplishments for decades. He was merely "retired." And I assume that he got his pension checks until he died.
@@randyjordan5521 ya but Paul didn’t have video footage of Russell and David saying size didn’t matter when they needed to build s tall steeple. At least we know Nemo wasn’t excommunicated because of some grievous sin.
I was told the handbook said no church court could be held until the criminal was in prison! Then only for a federal crime and if the stake presidency was willing. No official notice of the results was required to be given to those affected by the crime. I was however, informed by a counselor in the stake presidency who also presented the impact of the crime on my family.
I know this for a fact, the ex has had no consequences for having an affair so obviously the rules on excommunication has changed. 11 years ago in my previous ward 2 priesthood members were released from their callings and excommunicated for what the ex did.
Stake President was: Judge, Jury and Excommunicator😮
I’d say it’s more likely that the SP was a pawn and was doing what he was told by higher ups- as he has covenanted to do.
Nope
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Nemo caught the Master Lawyer in a lie and was public about it. Any appeal would be denied by Dallin H Oaks on the golf course.
Sign off:
"Be truthful, not a wanker in Jesus name
I did my own research, reading only church approved books, and came to the conclusion that the church wasn't true back in the 90s. This was before the removal of the 'death oath' in the temple or the DNA evidence of no Jewish ancestry in native Americans. The books I read were, King James version of the Bible, The Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, The Doctrine and Covenants, The History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, A Marvelous Work and a Wonder abd Volume One of the Journal of Discourses. Additionally I read Joseph Smith's notebook on the translation of the Pearl of Great Price where the same hieroglyph had two different interpretations on two different pages that I noticed. Also the Missouri state archives on the Mormon wars where Brigham Young was hired by Joseph Smith to run the Missourians off their land even after the Mormons were given land by the Missourians. And of course the Mountain Meadows Massacre where some of the victims were also victims of the Missouri Mormon war. My bishop, who worked at the same corporation, stopped by my office and was talking about how my home teachers didn't like coming to my house. He proceeded to tell me that if I no longer wanted to be a member I could submit a letter of resignation. I asked him who I should address and what I should say in the letter. After which I printed it out and handed it to him. He wouldn't accept it and told me I had to mail it to Salt Lake, which I did. A few weeks later I received a rather cordial letter from the church authorities stating that i had been removed from the church records but was always welcome to rejoin if I saw fit. This is much better treatment than Oliver Cowdery who submitted his letter of resignation but to this day the church states that he was excommunicated even though he moved to Salt Lake after the death of Joseph Smith and rejoined the church. Can you guess why Oliver Cowdery resigned from the church? Can you say Fanny Alger? You're in good company Nemo.
The Indians knew there were Hebrews here and Jesus . You shouldn't give up your search because of those details.
Thanks!
Since they vehemently abdicated the term Mormon, I’d say it’s still yours to keep. Don’t change it.
Agreed! He’s still a Mormon at heart in the community sense of the word.
He is still a Mormon, but he is not a member of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints anymore. 😅
CONGRATULATIONS! I know it doesn’t feel good right now. But you have been set free. Enjoy the freedom to live life on your own terms. Take it as a badge on honor! The world is so much bigger than this business. Besides your tithing won’t go to play the stock market anymore. You have freed up so much time to discover who you are without some old attorneys trying to silence you! Live it up, take up swearing, go discover the world. Be proud of yourself. Seriously! I have been out for over 2 decades and life is so much better on the outside. I didn’t have a community of support, looks like you do. Just incase no one says it. I’m proud of you!
You're an extraordinary human being!
Once you leave and find out how wonderful and freeing it is ….. you NEVER want to come back….🥳.
Calling out lies and asking questions and challenging bad policies so often leads to this kind of thing
The Holy Spirit will ALWAYS be with you and the church can't control that.
NeverMormon here. I need help to understand Nemo's obvious pain. I feel his pain with him, but I don't think it is based on being unheard and mistreated. He knew that would be the result. Is the LDS Church not the product of a charlatan prophet and all sorts of peculiar doctrines which don't interface with reality as modern people know it? Also a leadership that is not trustworthy beyond any group of males with similar unaccountable power? After Nemo has subtracted what is false and wrong about the Church, what is left that causes him this pain? (I have ideas, but I would only be guessing wildly.)Thank you for your input.
Never mo here, but I imagine it's the loss of his community.
@@duncansonoryanyes, after given your life, time, and treasure over to an organization one erroneously believed to be true is a huge betrayal. The membership will follow in lockstep and friendships will vaporize as if you’ve never been. Persona non grata…
It’s a lot like leaving an abusive relationship. Yes, there’s a million reasons to leave, but there’s mourning of the life that could’ve been as well, the ideal life you were promised your whole life growing up
The only thing he's losing is the ability to publicly cosplay his membership. THis is all a scripted plan - it just took his local leadership longer to do than he thought.
It will make it harder for him to say "I'm an active member, sho you should give me credibility," but only people who hate the Church buy into that schtick anyway.
Goodbye Nemo, it’s been nice, hope you find your paradise!!!
51:57 Yesterday I met a man whose little brother was excommunicated in the 1980's as a teenager by his LDS bishop for wearing a lavender-colored "Miami Vice" style suit to church. Bishop called his father in, the father did not see what the problem was, so the bishop did the chop chop.
On the bright side, you got out of the church for free. I have to have a letter notarized.
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Nemo I am heartbroken for you and your family. With social media and people like you exposing problems with the church, it has made it easier for people seeking the truth and untruths about the church. Keep up the amazing work you do. You are loved, supported and appreciated more than you know. 💞
Kicked out of a church for telling the truth, Nuts.
What truth has been told?
@@shannansharpgo away bot
I have heard facts presented by Nemo that are half truths, with a negative spin, and communicated in a clearly bad faith manner. There are apologist answers to every thing he calls truth, but Nemo focuses on the Anti-Mormon spin and narrative
Saying it is a church is ridiculous, given what we now know. The billions they've stolen from their members says it all.
He was kicked out for working to undermine it. He’s a bad faith actor. He should have been kicked out years ago.
I as a gay mormon stand with you with all of my heart . Before God you have your rights to question . Church leaders are human first ( not perfect) they can and do make mistakes
I have never heard of anyone ever beating an accusation in the churches judicial system.
Usually it's because it doesn't get to that point without someone going too far.
If Nemo was honest, he'd not have been a member of an organization that is what he said it was.
I love you guys, even though I don't completely understand why you continue to devote time and energy to what is, to any moderately informed and open-minded person, a self-serving and malignant organisation. May your tireless work give you experience and be for not only your good but for the good of others out there in the mists of darkness. For my part, the futile bickering going on in the comments here has been a good reminder that I am fortunate to have gotten out when I did and that I must use my remaining time to do actual good in the world rather than give the Mormons any more of it.
Well this has pretty much cinched it for me. 24 years after I walked away I think I’m going to formalise it.
I wasn't excommunicated, however I did remove my membership. Even tho it was my choice, it was still a tough one. The right thing for me to do, but that didn't make it easy to process.
Take care of you, Nemo. We appreciate you a great deal.
What weakens the faith of members is when the leaders don't have enough faith in God to take care of the church that they believe they have to sweep things under the rug or keep people from asking questions. If it's God's church trust him to preserve it in the face of scrutiny.
Not to be insensitive, but I have yet to find one thing that I miss from my membership. I'm just saying you have nothing to worry about. Love you, brother!
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Appropriate action taken by the church. Nemo is free to continue making money from his clear and direct opposition to the church.
@blakeforeman7648 I think you misunderstand.
@blakeforeman7648 still didn't make me think of anything I miss.
@blakeforeman7648 not so fast...Quick draw.
"I shine light on the truth, so you can see it too." Catchphrase
They say all good things must come to the end! But most church members are leaving the church because they realize its not all good things they have been told all along!!!
@@TheCelestIntelligence9 - Most members are not leaving. A very small percentage of overall membership is leaving. Membership increases every year, more this year than last year and more last year than the year before, etc. etc. More people join each year than the combined numbers of who dies, or asks to leave, or who are asked to leave.
@@micheleh3851Facts are dangerous around here. Be careful michele3851!
Sympathies and congratulations Nemo! Yours is a bittersweet victory in my view, one where spirit rules over dogma and viscousness hiding behind a self righteous mask. So, well done you. What I really want to know is exactly who ordered the Stake President to excommunicate you, and better still who ordered them. You deserve to know the lineage of the clear demand to get you out. I have my suspicions but they are only speculative, and will remain so since the Church operates in secret and deeply fears honest, open communication. You have my admiration.