I turn off my PC, unplug it, and then completely disassemble it and place all of the components in static resistance bags, and then I reassemble it when it's time to start back up.
ha. that's nothing. i have a 10 year old computer- a 6-core 3.7gHz Xeon with 12GB RAM and a 4GB Firepro. it came that way for the $120. so i don't even consider boot up times. also, i have a 12yo Core2Duo laptop that is slower, but i just hit the button and go make tea. so after tea and breakfast, it's ready to go lol
My entry-level laptop is 8 years old and boots up in 10-15 seconds. I just replaced my HDD with an SSD and put the HDD in a CD-ROM HDD caddy. The only downside is I can't put CDs in my laptop anymore lol
Up until last year, when my wife had time to rummage thru my stuff, I had a 386 with 3.5 and 5.25 inch floppies, a math co-processor, 256k memory ..... I think it was a 100meg hard drive......it also had a turbo button.......the first computer I was able to buy, and now it's gone forever, damn wuhan
Came thinking "Doesn't everyone already know this....." but left with "Holy shit holding Shift while clicking shutdown, actually shutdowns...." This is why I love these guys.
I notice just pressing the power button actually shuts it down too. If you go to the performance tab on task manager you can see uptime and it always resets when I press the power button.
wtf do you mean? i didn't know this but i turned fast shutoff off right when i got my pc cus SSD, didn't know it meant if i didn't do that my PC wasn't shutting down WTF
As someone working in IT, I cannot express enough how many problems are encountered by users which would have completely resolved if fast startup had been disabled. I cannot stress enough how important it is to “restart” instead of “shut down” if you are encountering issues with windows 10.
I've taken to restarting every 48 hours just on principle now. So many firmware updates to Windows, Steam, and all the internet browsers, it's the only way to reliably clear the system
Late to the video, but this is really frustrating. For years I have always done shut down instead of restart when having an issue precisely because it also does a proper power cycle of the hardware. And only now years later I learn this isn't doing a proper, cold, shutdown. This is so counter intuitive. Shutdown and turn off the power for 30seconds is supposed to be the absolute ultimate restart.
i've had a problem with my pc for months now where if i shutdown, the OS shuts down but my PC just keeps running and i have to plug if off. I tried many things and none helped, my friend told me to reset my bios which i didn't do yet, i don't know if that will help.. Is there anything else i can do except reinstall windows?
Fun fact: When you select the "update and shut down" option in windows, it will reboot back into windows after completing a firmware update just to shut down again. And between reboots, you can actually boot into a different operating system and change BIOS settings.
This is true, and also a pain in the ass for me. My old school laptop has Ubuntu installed (I needed it for a class), and whenever the PC reboots for an update, it always puts Ubuntu at the top of the list of Operating Systems for some stupid reason, which is VERY frustrating when I'm on a trip visiting family, and the laptop updates overnight. I haven't figured out how to prevent that from happenning yet. x_x
@@AegixDrakan if Ubuntu is on the hardrive like windows then it might just be because it boots in alphabetical order. You might be able to just change the name of the right files. Otherwise you need to change the os boot order in the bios configuration. You might have Ubuntu on a different drive than windows.
As someone who works in IT, Fast Startup causes more issues for us than almost anything else. We pretty much just disable it by default most of the time
Exactly. I disabled it as soon as they implemented it. It's not worth to enable features like this and similar if they are not gonna have a HUGE benefit for your PC, even then you have to be cautious, because they are mote likely to cause issues then to work as expected. It's just how Windows works. It's a complex imperfect system.
May I ask what issues ? Apart from being a dirty trick from Microsoft to make people believe that Windows doesn't take 5000 years to start up, I'm very curious to know what downsides this has over normal startup and shutdown 🙂
@@Blueeeeeee as the video mentions, drivers causing issues with display or printing. A lot of times we have users having issues with programs and they swear they've shut down the computer (they do, just not restarting), and general slowness sometimes because a lot of computers only have 8 GBs of RAM and some programs don't close properly after a few days of being open (thank you old software that barely runs on Windows 10)
@@Blueeeeeee most simple issues with PCs can literally be solved with a good old shut down. Those same issues might simply not appear if you shut the computer down fully after each use. I imagine in big deployments every situation where an issue can be so easily mitigated is extremely valuable since it cuts down on time and money spent by getting the IT department involved every time. Where a user fixes problems every night by just doing what they normally do that’s a big deal. And the benefit of computers starting up seconds earlier is lost when your entire company has computers which all start up at the beginning of a work day and stay on for the rest of the day.
This was often causing issues at work when deploying apps that needed a reboot, without forcing said reboots. Users would only shut down and never reboot, thus the restart condition was never met. Had to disable fast startup by policy in the end. Easier than asking users to reboot lol.
This explains why sometimes apps like soundpad where a restart is necessary after changing settings won't function after a shutdown but will after a restart
You always gotta think about the end user. If the end user is t going to do the maintenance you would do or would forget - then it’s not a good feature to be set as default
@@jgobea0188 Actually as Riley mentioned, if you go into power settings, you can disable fast startup and it will make the "shutdown" button actually do a full shutdown instead of half of one like it usually does.
After disabling the so-called "fast start up", my Windows 10 computer boots up just as fast as before, but it now shuts down in just 2 seconds instead of 10! "Fast Start Up" should be renamed "Slow Shut Down".
Basically speaking of the CPU, as I won't cover anything else. 50% power for a CPU means it'll run at its stock speed when idling / at low load, and boost normally. Setting it to 100% (usually what "high performence" plans do) will make it run at its boost clock all the time, no matter how low the load is. Value of 1% means your CPU will run below its base clock to save power, in some cases windows will artificially disable half of the cores to save some more energy and boosting won't be as aggressive. Values in between will usually do what you'd expect based on the ones I just pointed out. Here I'm talking about the minimum power setting, but you can also limit the speed by lowering the maximum power setting. Take a Ryzen 7 3700X as an example. Lowering the minimum power to 1% resulted in 2.2GHz base clock and (as expected) only 4 cores active when not needed.
@@shapelessed I want to see this information in video format though. All that is such good info that I want to put it in my favorite tech videos on the TH-cam playlist
This is one of those videos where within 10 seconds, you went exactly where I was expecting (hibernation) but I learned more than I was expecting. Good job on this bitesized video.
Linux...? Anybody out there watching this video who also uses Linux? Linux you can know every single thing about your OS and literally see the code that lets it run lol
Concise, not clickbait, informative without taking itself too seriously, and saves the sponsor to the end. 👏👏Well done, that Linus guy could rly learn from you 😉😉
It caused me to spend 10 years in jail... good times good times. those sneaky FBI agents. they reconstructed what was in ram from my hibernation file. such a lovely invention.
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Same used to I didn't even know why the hell restarting took ages while shutting down and turning back on was a breeze. Turned that setting off years ago.
When you go to the Task Manager and it states that your CPU up time has been: _15 days, 3 hours, 13 minutes and 8 seconds_ but you only turned the damned thing on 5 minutes ago.
I had a driver issue just like you described which I ended up fixing by disabling that driver after booting up in safe mode. It's interesting to now realise that this issue was probably exacerbated by this way of shutting down.
We've got a policy in our Win10 installations that turns off fast startup in all of our installs; 90% of our help desk calls are fixed with "turn it off and back on," just as God intended it to be.
with laptops adopting s0 sleep that drains power like crazy, and even s3 being quite power-hungry again (mine can only last about 24h on a full charge), hibernate is having a huge comeback. Not sure what's going on here... my previous laptop slept a lot better than the current one.
that's because they didn't figure out HOW to turn the PC on... they've tried using TV remote, asking the PC to turn on, they even pressed every buttons from the keyboard/mouse/screen and only THEN on the PC itself... but it still didn't work because they don't know that they needed to plug it in !
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@@yasminejerbi5678 saying the word "brainwashed" is a good trigger word to make you sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist. If you want to maintain some credibility, I'd recommend staying away from that.
other problem is default setting for "shut down bottom". It becomes set to "sleep" instead of "shut down". It's terrible if you will transport your laptop inside a bag like normal people. It will overheat. Also if the hard-disk start to run when you are shaking, it becomes easier to damage in case of impact.
This actually caused me a lot of headaches when dual-booting because I couldn't figure out why I needed to boot into Windows and then restart to be able to boot Linux.
A feature like this honestly shouldn't be enabled by default if it works in only the following scenario: 1 operating system installed, no access to the disk otherwise, and it only matters if you're using a HDD. Also, SSDs have limited writes, a scenario which dumping shit to it when you shut down doesn't help.
@@chlorobyte_projects I do use an HDD but have a very limited amount of stuff downloaded. This feature , which till today I did not know about , was fucking up my PC and causing BIOS problems. And before this , when I had a RAM leak problem due Microsoft Update screwing up , after shutting down it would start back up with the RAM at 88% : )
fast startup combined with the abomination that is NTFS has lost me hours due to having to reboot into windows when realising the drives were mounted read only
I had heard about this, that for a full clean start it was better to use "restart" than "shut down". so I did ever since. but never knew exactly why was that. thank you for the info, and for the short and sweet video and not a 10-11 minute rant about a bunch on bullshit 😅
Same here, and I always disable this feature by default unless the computer is old and runs on a slow mechanical HDD, but even in those cases, disabling Fast Startup does not always decrease start-up time.
I remember hybrid sleep, I think. It would put my computer in a seemingly sleeping state, never too wake up again. Except after losing all my data. Good times
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Because of this video, I hooked up my PC to a GE 7-Day Programmable Power Strip with Digital Timer, 8 Grounded Outlets (4 Timed / 4 Always On), Indoor, 15 Amp, 1800W, Easy Presets and Custom Settings for Weekly Cycle, Minute Intervals, 15077 in Black. Now when my PC is shutdown at 1:00am by the surge protector, afterward it is really shutdown since there is no juice whatsover.
I made a video mentioning this concept, and a bunch of tech geniuses with 40 years experience kept calling me an idiot and that I was confusing shutting down and going to sleep. 😂😂😂 now I'll just send them to this video.
Im p sure its a setting thats not on by default for everyone and can be turned off. When i start my pc back up all my software has to boot back up again.
@@jayjaygolden5123 It's on by default. Sometimes the option is not there (not sure why, i think because of older hardware or drivers maybe), but if it's there it is on by default.
Fast Startup doesn't work correct in my PC and Laptop. What happens instead is if I choose shutdown, the computers acts like shutting normally, then blackscreens for one second then throw me back to Windows as if I never shut down the system. Confuses the heck out of me so I disable it now by default.
@@slamdangles I don't have time to tell every new employee the difference in a 10k employee corporation the difference. A great way to show you are completely incompetent at your job is not using resources like videos to do the explaining for you but instead going over it 5 times a week, I guess your boss will really appreciate you wasting hours on it.
I was actually suspicious whether or not my computer was actually "shutdown," or just in some kind of "sleep" since there's always a dim light in my computer even after it's been "shutdown." 🤔
That's probably just something connected to the PSU's 5V standby (5vstb) A rail that is always on. This rail normally only recharges the Real Time Clock (RTC)'s battery and of course keeps the power going to the RTC, without it your computer would loose time when off. The other (important) use for this rail is to provide power for basic logic for things such as how it detects when you press the DC power button. Other uses include powering some things such as the network controller and basic CPU functions for power on by network.
depending on the desktop you may be able to also disable s4 or s5 deep sleep option in the bios. some bio's also have options to supply usb power when in low power states that may be on by default. but ive seen motherboards that no matter what would have an led on unless you fliped or unplugged the psu
First thing I do when I setup a pc is turn off fast startup causes more problems then it fixes (windows 10 should automatically disable fast startup if an SSD is detected as fast startup is pointless with an ssd) ,, because it has a tendency of breaking antivirus software because when you shutdown and boots back into Windows the antivirus software expects next boot up to be clean but the previous antivirus driver is still loaded and causes all sorts of problems in windows (that's one example) the other one is when the pc gets stuck and never updates (seen some PCs have uptime of 150 days because the owner has only ever chosen shutdown and broken the windows update service, until I picked reboot and everything fixed)
That's no more than 100 MB of data. And you do it like twice a day. The difference in lifetime is negligible. Also, why tf aren't you keeping the entire system on RAM like a normal person? RAM has infinite read and writes, and superior speed.
Only if you ever turn off your computer. I use the reboot function about once every 3 months. (Updates disabled from before MS blocked blocking updates). Not by choice mind you, Windows just becomes completely unstable after a ridiculously short run time. It would be an annual reboot if it were up to me
@@denniscleaver3559 I turn off my monitor to save power but dont run PC hardware sleep. I turn off page file to save on harddrive writes (also classic hdds). I basically run my PC like a server. Cool it like one too.
@@TheFinagle page file? Thanks I should turn that off too, forgot Windows even has paging. Also, if you're treating your PC as a server, why not host a NAS, or a game server. Linux also can host a PiHole DNS without much configuration, but on Windows it's waay too much work.
@@MsHojat I'm not sure if windows 7 had fastboot but it sounds likely. You can just run a command line tool called ntfsfix in Ubuntu. Not sure if it's available in other distros.
Fast startup can make windows fail to boot when changing different hardware like ram or GPU cause the disk/SSD system just recognizes previous hardware. It happens to me while changing different ram and hard drive in laptop
Not only that, cant be copied just like that They made it a mess for a purpose, so that the ordinary user cant repair or make a backup copy of a system easy
The fast startup works well for reducing caching (opening apps) and boot time on laptops and or tablets cause we don't change hardware. In my experience when you upgrade or changing a hardware system (ram, SSD, hard drive, screen, GPU, and so on) first make sure should turn it off a fast startup, then you can turn it on back.
Haha me too. I always assumed that it was just psychological that restart took longer. Afterall, it's usually when my computer is bugging out and annoying me that I restart it, lol.
I've experienced more than once waking up and finding out that my computer wasn't quite as how I left it. Some programs would be running, others not, and soon it became clear to me that Windows would sometimes update and restart without asking me. Very disconcerting. Also, love the moustache, kinda like Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds.
I set up a GPO at my office that disables fast startup. People would regularly complain that their computers were acting weird, and when I took a look at uptime in task manager, I saw months of time since the last fresh start. "But I shut it down every night!" they would say. I've gotten far fewer complaints about weird behavior now.
I'm glad you showed me this setting in Windows 10. I have been using Shift-Shutdown forever on my HP laptop. Now, I've changed the setting on both our laptops.
I legit had those blue screens because of fast startup. For some reason, even with brand new components, it kept my pc from being on for more than 20 minutes because of what looked simultaneously like a kernel panic, AND a device driver failure. Thanks for the awesome feature yet again Microsoft.
That was... Way more informative than I expected. Would explain why I sometimes had to turn off the PC and then turn off the power supply for a few seconds, to get rid off some bugs that should go away after rebooting
could this explain why sometimes when i power off my laptop and disconnect the power outlet, the next day the laptop has zero battery? i have the belief that the laptop wakes up at some point and since is not plugged in it drains all the battery.
Fast startup has actually caused possibly the most anxious episode in my life. I was experimenting with how viruses can disable your keyboard and wrote a little program that does exactly that. What i didn't think was gonna happen is that my mouse also got disabled. Being left with no choice, i pressed the shutdown button on my pc and rebooted it. But, i think because of fast startup, my mnk were STILL DISABLED. After being anxious for about 2 hours, i got everything working with system restore.
For years, YEARS, I thought my computer was cursed (and by that, I mean I had some weird virus or something that I couldn't detect at all). I would start my computer in the morning, and notice that things were already pretty slow. I started to check my task manager each morning and restart it because my memory usage was super high for a fresh start up. For a random reason, I watched this video, changed the setting, and now my memory usage is normal :') I couldn't find this particular issue anywhere so I was hopeless, but thanks to this video, I don't have to suffer anymore. Thank you so much!
My biggest gripe with fast startup is how it affects the boot drive when using other operating systems. Linux will only use the disk as a read-only device which isn't super great when you want to modify something on that drive.
Oh my God this explains an issue I've had in the past. I never click restart, I always click shut down then wait a few seconds. And one of the driver problems I had never fixed itself until I did a full unplug.
On mine one time it was a year. at first I was wondering if that meant how long windows was installed for. Which technically it counted that lol but now I have fast startup disabled. Might reenable it though.
You know how power users frequently suffer from issues with Windows? I decided to just let Windows update have its way with my PC and shit just works now, so my uptimes are short (11 days atm) but eh, it's never off when I need it. Pretty happy
Finally I get why restarting solves more problems than shut down. Thanks Microsoft for breaking something that worked perfectly fine. And, non sarcastically, thanks Techquickie for confirming what I suspected for years.
They didn't "break" anything. Melodramatic much? Fast startup served a perfectly valid purpose when it was introduced (speeding up computers with slow drives), but is less useful now that even cheap drives can be fast. Do you also blame Microsoft when something goes wrong with you car?
@@DovahFett except they kinda did. We already have sleep and hibernation states with this type of functionality, there was no reason to adjust the "shut down" function to incorporate the hibernate-esque function. It's yet another case of "Microsoft tampering with something that doesn't need changing". When someone hits "shut down" instead of hibernate, that should SHUT DOWN THE COMPUTER; FULL STOP. Nothing more, nothing less. If a user wants to put their computer into hibernation, than they can select the hibernate option. While working in IT has made me see my fair share less-than-intelligent users, I strongly believe MS should stop babying Windows users and things like Fast Startup only reinforce that.
1:10 My computer takes more time to come back from hibernate than from starting fresh or even "fast start". I also disable C3/C4 states because I don't like software bugs and stuttering, give me the performance, DRAW ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD (Just 2KW).
@@Pugz9 No, this is a feature of windows 10's software, not your computer's hardware. Check in power settings to make sure it's off if you want it off.
Another big disadvantage with fast startup: The filesystem remains locked, so when booting into Linux you cannot access the filesystem. Can be problematic when either dual booting or trying to copy the OS to a new drive with clonezilla or something similar.
for some incredible coincidence, having watched this a day or so ago, today i literally had the driver power state failure BSOD occur. that is one heck of a coincidence lmao
true, i have a friend that had a problem with some drivers failing during games, and i did everything except this, i didnt even remember it, and this totally random video just fixed a problem i was killing my head with
Now I know why our helpdesk told me I need to do a Restart instead of a Shutdown. I find if I don’t do a periodic restart my laptop becomes unstable. Thanks for the good info.
the main issue I have with fast start up is that is borks linux installs and even breaks grub on already installed dual boots, after a windows update is run. it's super annoying. you can also disable it in an admin powershell or command line by typing "powercfg -h off"
I wrote a program to tell me how long my PC had been on and it told me my PC had been on for days just after I powered it up. I thought there was a bug in my program, but it turned out to be this detrimental feature which instead of making my PC start up faster, it just made my PC shut down much slower.
If the “Turn on fast startup (recommended)” option is missing in the Shutdown Settings, then you have to enable Hibernation on your computer. Here’s how: Press the Windows logo key + X on your keyboard and then select “Command Prompt (Admin)“. At the command box type the following command and press Enter to enable hibernation: powercfg /hibernate on Close the Command Prompt window and then re-open the Control Panel. Fast Startup should be there now.
Thank You for this video. Whenever I have to do a "restart" to fix something, I have a habit to shutdown, Power Off PC, and start again, I used to believe somehow that was more HARDCORE than clicking restart.
Moreover, because of this "Fast Startup" mode mounting NTFS partition on Linux in dual boot is in the read only mode. And only a led blinking before final switch off on my laptop gave me some clue that something wrong with the "Shutdown" process on Windows.
Was looking for this comment, lost count of how many times I was forced to boot into windows just to do full shutdown and be able to access my files on Linux smh
yes! While you're not watching, it can "fetch emails", update itself, spy on you, do whatever it desires, but can't even keep playing the freaking music! So much potential goes totally in the wrong direction. It's not the mode that is the problem, it is the implementation. Where's my ability to control what apps i want to run during s0 sleep and what absolutely not?
So that's why my windows update corrupt files sometimes, I usually turn off the power of my PC after shutting down. I had to reinstall windows 3 times only this year, thanks!
Thanks for the Shift+Shutdown trick. I was booting via the BIOS when I needed to do a full shutdown power cycle to clear out some caches. Check the CPU Uptime value in the Task Manager if you want to see whether your machine has fully shut down lately.
Oh so THATS why last time I checked my uptime it was saying 136 hours despite the fact I actually regularly turn off my UPS when I'm gone for a long time. It's currently at 5 days uptime. Thanks Microsoft. It's not like this might kill the UPS battery of the power went out when I'm not home or anything to turn off the UPS.
@Yontek Nohara My system still draws power when "turned off" unless I hit my PSU power switch on the back. How do I know this? My keyboard and mouse still light up, the power light on my GPU is still on as is the power light on the motherboard. All this despite my BIOS having USB Power set to only while running.
Batteries will naturally discharge and degrade over time. It’s important to fully discharge a battery if you know you won’t use it for a while as this will greatly extend its life.
@@Senorpoontang Well, actually fully discharging does basically the same thing as keeping it at 100% since all of the electrons are on one side in both situations. If a battery won't be used for a long period of time, keeping it at 50% is better, but since it'll degrade even with that it's better to check on it every once in a while.
@@cenzylor That goes against every manufacturer’s recommendation for lithium ion batteries and what I was taught at uni. Do you mind explaining the mechanism behind the idea of leaving it at 50% charge further?
@@cenzylor it doesn’t really make sense to me that leaving the battery in an excited state would preserve its lifespan. That would suggest that equilibrium is at 50% charge therefore a dead battery will naturally charge itself?
@@Senorpoontang So first, sorry for the late answer. Honestly, what you're saying makes a lot of sense and I can't really argue much if you were taught that stuff at uni but from what I know, using the charge in the battery causes chemical energy to turn in to electrical energy while transferring electrons from the negative side to the positive side, so 0% shouldn't be a neutral state. Plus, it said that I should leave my computer's battery at 50% if I'm not going to use it for long periods of time in the manual, and while that doesn't mean every manufacturer does it I don't think a company on such a large scale would make a mistake like that. It could just be that my memory is not that good, though. I'll have to try and learn a bit more.
I turn off my PC, unplug it, and then completely disassemble it and place all of the components in static resistance bags, and then I reassemble it when it's time to start back up.
I heard cleaning it with boiling water and detergent might help
Still faster than restarting
@@sobhaks7231 did that with my 3080 and it didn't work. Well, at least theyre very cheap
You don't put them in the dishwasher overnight to make sure it doesn't get infected with a virus overnight?
Why do all that I just yank out the power supply power cord. Much faster
description: have you ever wondered how your pc boots up really fast from a shutdown
me with a 7yr old laptop: no no I have never wondered that
ha. that's nothing. i have a 10 year old computer- a 6-core 3.7gHz Xeon with 12GB RAM and a 4GB Firepro. it came that way for the $120. so i don't even consider boot up times. also, i have a 12yo Core2Duo laptop that is slower, but i just hit the button and go make tea. so after tea and breakfast, it's ready to go lol
@@prodigalus XD
My entry-level laptop is 8 years old and boots up in 10-15 seconds. I just replaced my HDD with an SSD and put the HDD in a CD-ROM HDD caddy. The only downside is I can't put CDs in my laptop anymore lol
@@Leandro-tb3xi would you have?
Up until last year, when my wife had time to rummage thru my stuff, I had a 386 with 3.5 and 5.25 inch floppies, a math co-processor, 256k memory ..... I think it was a 100meg hard drive......it also had a turbo button.......the first computer I was able to buy, and now it's gone forever, damn wuhan
Came thinking "Doesn't everyone already know this....." but left with "Holy shit holding Shift while clicking shutdown, actually shutdowns...." This is why I love these guys.
Holding shift while cliking on restart also puts you into the recovery/diag boot menu.
Had the same feeling. I already knew holding shift and restarting takes you to recovery but didn't know about holding shift and shutting down
HOLY SHIFT?
I notice just pressing the power button actually shuts it down too. If you go to the performance tab on task manager you can see uptime and it always resets when I press the power button.
wtf do you mean? i didn't know this but i turned fast shutoff off right when i got my pc cus SSD, didn't know it meant if i didn't do that my PC wasn't shutting down WTF
As someone working in IT, I cannot express enough how many problems are encountered by users which would have completely resolved if fast startup had been disabled. I cannot stress enough how important it is to “restart” instead of “shut down” if you are encountering issues with windows 10.
I've taken to restarting every 48 hours just on principle now. So many firmware updates to Windows, Steam, and all the internet browsers, it's the only way to reliably clear the system
Late to the video, but this is really frustrating. For years I have always done shut down instead of restart when having an issue precisely because it also does a proper power cycle of the hardware. And only now years later I learn this isn't doing a proper, cold, shutdown. This is so counter intuitive. Shutdown and turn off the power for 30seconds is supposed to be the absolute ultimate restart.
That makes… so much sense with some of my past computer problems. Gdi.
well i have a multiplug with overvoltage protection that has an on and off switch, so once the pc is shut down i cut the power
i've had a problem with my pc for months now where if i shutdown, the OS shuts down but my PC just keeps running and i have to plug if off. I tried many things and none helped, my friend told me to reset my bios which i didn't do yet, i don't know if that will help.. Is there anything else i can do except reinstall windows?
Getting rid of this "Fast startup" feature that I didn't know even existed actually made my PC start faster... Go figure lol...
The irony...
I am using this option and didn't get any problems so far.
Yep, that shit was destroying my RAM.
BRO I CANT TURN OFF FAST STARTUP FOR SOME REASON WHAT THE FUCK
Having it disabled doubles the boot time in my case
This might actually help explain why my computer boots up at different speeds every time I switch it on.
My laptop is slow and laggy everytime it boots up now.
@@dedoxedcaliber8440 think its time for a format
@@guitarplayer1495 or a new computer
@@dedoxedcaliber8440 just buy a ssd thats all
Is not laptop's fault.Is because of the shit update.For me it does the dame thing and I have a good Pc
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@@Thfoxpz Lol
Fun fact: When you select the "update and shut down" option in windows, it will reboot back into windows after completing a firmware update just to shut down again. And between reboots, you can actually boot into a different operating system and change BIOS settings.
This is true, and also a pain in the ass for me. My old school laptop has Ubuntu installed (I needed it for a class), and whenever the PC reboots for an update, it always puts Ubuntu at the top of the list of Operating Systems for some stupid reason, which is VERY frustrating when I'm on a trip visiting family, and the laptop updates overnight.
I haven't figured out how to prevent that from happenning yet. x_x
@@AegixDrakan it's too complicated for Linux boot loader (Grub). See /a/149572 on askubuntu
@@AegixDrakan if Ubuntu is on the hardrive like windows then it might just be because it boots in alphabetical order. You might be able to just change the name of the right files.
Otherwise you need to change the os boot order in the bios configuration. You might have Ubuntu on a different drive than windows.
you can also just press the bios key during any time the pc is starting up
What happen if you unplug it during this process?
I just flip the breaker in my house when I stop using my computer. The food in my fridge goes bad but at least I know my computer is actually off.
Congratulations, you have probably the longest username i've ever seen on youtube
Nice username.
plebs from countries that dont have switches on their power points.
You could've flipped the switch on your power supply or even pull the plug??
@@fauzan.k.arifin that would be less funny. You do realize this is sarcasm right?
Anyone else on TH-cam would've stretched this info out to reach 10 minutes or more, but you only needed about 4 minutes. I can respect that
8 minutes are enough nowadays 😉
3!
Even shorter if we don't count intros/outros and ads
I mean there's a reason the channel is called techquickie
2 minutes if you're on 2x
As someone who works in IT, Fast Startup causes more issues for us than almost anything else. We pretty much just disable it by default most of the time
Exactly. I disabled it as soon as they implemented it.
It's not worth to enable features like this and similar if they are not gonna have a HUGE benefit for your PC, even then you have to be cautious, because they are mote likely to cause issues then to work as expected. It's just how Windows works. It's a complex imperfect system.
May I ask what issues ?
Apart from being a dirty trick from Microsoft to make people believe that Windows doesn't take 5000 years to start up, I'm very curious to know what downsides this has over normal startup and shutdown 🙂
@@Blueeeeeee as the video mentions, drivers causing issues with display or printing. A lot of times we have users having issues with programs and they swear they've shut down the computer (they do, just not restarting), and general slowness sometimes because a lot of computers only have 8 GBs of RAM and some programs don't close properly after a few days of being open (thank you old software that barely runs on Windows 10)
@@Blueeeeeee most simple issues with PCs can literally be solved with a good old shut down. Those same issues might simply not appear if you shut the computer down fully after each use. I imagine in big deployments every situation where an issue can be so easily mitigated is extremely valuable since it cuts down on time and money spent by getting the IT department involved every time. Where a user fixes problems every night by just doing what they normally do that’s a big deal. And the benefit of computers starting up seconds earlier is lost when your entire company has computers which all start up at the beginning of a work day and stay on for the rest of the day.
yep, we've disabled it via policy. Network-persistent apps hate it.
This was often causing issues at work when deploying apps that needed a reboot, without forcing said reboots. Users would only shut down and never reboot, thus the restart condition was never met. Had to disable fast startup by policy in the end. Easier than asking users to reboot lol.
This explains why sometimes apps like soundpad where a restart is necessary after changing settings won't function after a shutdown but will after a restart
You always gotta think about the end user. If the end user is t going to do the maintenance you would do or would forget - then it’s not a good feature to be set as default
I had a feeling shut down wasnt actually doing what i expected, and this has confirmed it
Same, I recently got a PC and windows 10 and it really felt different to the windows 7, I guess I'll just unplug the PC after shutting down
@@jgobea0188 Actually as Riley mentioned, if you go into power settings, you can disable fast startup and it will make the "shutdown" button actually do a full shutdown instead of half of one like it usually does.
@@jjpark98 yeah I heard it I didn't see how because I wasn't looking at the video but I rewatched it and turned it off thanks
After disabling the so-called "fast start up", my Windows 10 computer boots up just as fast as before, but it now shuts down in just 2 seconds instead of 10!
"Fast Start Up" should be renamed "Slow Shut Down".
@@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores i have it enabled, it still shuts down really fast, sometimes as soon as the shut down text appears
This video blew my mind. I see the whole world differently now.
Brooooo we on da same video
Especially the cake.
Love your vids dude.
Look at this good ol boy
Damn. I'm surprise to see you here.
speaking of the power options menu, it'd be great if you guys did a vid on how power plans affect desktops/ laptops
Basically speaking of the CPU, as I won't cover anything else.
50% power for a CPU means it'll run at its stock speed when idling / at low load, and boost normally.
Setting it to 100% (usually what "high performence" plans do) will make it run at its boost clock all the time, no matter how low the load is.
Value of 1% means your CPU will run below its base clock to save power, in some cases windows will artificially disable half of the cores to save some more energy and boosting won't be as aggressive.
Values in between will usually do what you'd expect based on the ones I just pointed out. Here I'm talking about the minimum power setting, but you can also limit the speed by lowering the maximum power setting.
Take a Ryzen 7 3700X as an example. Lowering the minimum power to 1% resulted in 2.2GHz base clock and (as expected) only 4 cores active when not needed.
Ngl power plans can help out alot with latency
Agreed! I would love to see this topic in video form
@@shapelessed I want to see this information in video format though. All that is such good info that I want to put it in my favorite tech videos on the TH-cam playlist
Agreed
This is one of those videos where within 10 seconds, you went exactly where I was expecting (hibernation) but I learned more than I was expecting. Good job on this bitesized video.
“A totally normal thing that people do with their free time”
I felt that
Everyone who spent $3k+ on the tower alone did the nervous Muppet look
Same
I'm in this photo and I don't like it
And linus does it in his next video..
Meh, I've done weirder shit
That's why I always just jank the power cord from the PC instead of using that "Shut Down" button in Windows.
Can't trust anyone these days!
Yvonnes demographic caused covid
This is joke right
@@JuanLopez-ss3mz it's a meme, you dip.
@@carguy7884 Perhaps.
@@JuanLopez-ss3mz I think he means yanking the power cord while it's running. Which is also an awful idea...
Fun Fact: you can know your PC actually shuts down or not by checking uptime in Task manager.
Oooh...didnt know. Thx
Yep! This is how I found out a while ago too
Linux...? Anybody out there watching this video who also uses Linux?
Linux you can know every single thing about your OS and literally see the code that lets it run lol
YUPPP ACCIDENTALLY FIGURED THIS OUT
I thought it was weird that my PC was up for 18 hours when I only had it on for 4. Huh. I guess the TH-cam algorithm can scan my thoughts now too.
Concise, not clickbait, informative without taking itself too seriously, and saves the sponsor to the end. 👏👏Well done, that Linus guy could rly learn from you 😉😉
This guy works for linus LMAO
@@jhinabloomingflower807 you are so smart
TechLinked looks different today.
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I remember when Hibernate was the coolest thing ever, it extended my laptop's battery from about a day to a week. Very nice for long plane rides.
What plane you take that's a week long?
@@Poverty_Welder American Airlines
@@pootispiker2866 amateur, I use the f15 jet from my parking lot
It caused me to spend 10 years in jail... good times good times. those sneaky FBI agents. they reconstructed what was in ram from my hibernation file. such a lovely invention.
I'm using hibernate to this day, best shut down method ^^
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this is not really the reason it exists buddy, lol
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Good job placing the sponsor at the end without letting the flow of the video getting disrupted. I also enjoyed the sponsor video.
Lol That’s why I’ve noted that restarting takes longer than shutting down and turning back on
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Same used to I didn't even know why the hell restarting took ages while shutting down and turning back on was a breeze. Turned that setting off years ago.
When you go to the Task Manager and it states that your CPU up time has been: _15 days, 3 hours, 13 minutes and 8 seconds_ but you only turned the damned thing on 5 minutes ago.
that fooled me once
@Nozge just turn off fast startup causes more problems then it fixes (especially if you have an SSD fast startup is pointless)
@@leexgxI have a hdd and it went from 2 mins to 30 secs after turning fast startup on
lol it happened to me a few days ago expect the CPU had been running for 5 days
@@leexgx on my ssd i saw only a 3 sec delay on startup
Remember when all computers came with a pop-out tray for you place your coffee cup??
Flimsiest cup holder ever.
It even has airjets to cool it down when you close it.
😂😂😂😂😂
Took me a few seconds to understand!
Lol the disk tray XD
Is this what is referred to as a CD reader by others?
I had a driver issue just like you described which I ended up fixing by disabling that driver after booting up in safe mode. It's interesting to now realise that this issue was probably exacerbated by this way of shutting down.
We've got a policy in our Win10 installations that turns off fast startup in all of our installs; 90% of our help desk calls are fixed with "turn it off and back on," just as God intended it to be.
Also, the machines shut down much faster.
>”do you remember hibernate?”
>me who uses hibernate daily
with laptops adopting s0 sleep that drains power like crazy, and even s3 being quite power-hungry again (mine can only last about 24h on a full charge), hibernate is having a huge comeback. Not sure what's going on here... my previous laptop slept a lot better than the current one.
I really love putting my computer into hibernate so that way I could just continue where I left of without caring about the power draw.
I used to use that feature on my old Windows 7 PC a lot.
hibernate is good in my laptop. I enable it so if my battery dies, it hibernates and after reconnecting the cable I have everything open
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Techquickie: turning off a PC, it's pretty simple, right?
My grandparents: *visible confusion*
that's because they didn't figure out HOW to turn the PC on... they've tried using TV remote, asking the PC to turn on, they even pressed every buttons from the keyboard/mouse/screen and only THEN on the PC itself... but it still didn't work because they don't know that they needed to plug it in !
Man, i just have to stop to apreciate
This was quick, engaging, and informative without dirty amounts of sausage filling.
Thanks!
I've been disabling "fast startup" and "fast boot" since I got an SSD a couple of years back.
Same
Saaame.
That's because every single write permanently damages the SSD
The purpose of the feature only makes sense with a spinner hard drive anyway.
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Remember when the shut down button actually shut down the computer? Pepperidge farm remembers
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@@imrojoh3701 ok
@@imrojoh3701 No
@Ian Visser _Parallel ATA? PATA. Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time._
I honestly wasn't aware of this. 😅 Thanks, please cover more topics like this. 👍
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@@yasminejerbi5678 yes ok but you are at wrong place.
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@@yasminejerbi5678 saying the word "brainwashed" is a good trigger word to make you sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist. If you want to maintain some credibility, I'd recommend staying away from that.
other problem is default setting for "shut down bottom". It becomes set to "sleep" instead of "shut down". It's terrible if you will transport your laptop inside a bag like normal people. It will overheat. Also if the hard-disk start to run when you are shaking, it becomes easier to damage in case of impact.
This actually caused me a lot of headaches when dual-booting because I couldn't figure out why I needed to boot into Windows and then restart to be able to boot Linux.
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A feature like this honestly shouldn't be enabled by default if it works in only the following scenario: 1 operating system installed, no access to the disk otherwise, and it only matters if you're using a HDD. Also, SSDs have limited writes, a scenario which dumping shit to it when you shut down doesn't help.
@@chlorobyte_projects yeah, MS is garbage at making good features
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@@chlorobyte_projects I do use an HDD but have a very limited amount of stuff downloaded. This feature , which till today I did not know about , was fucking up my PC and causing BIOS problems. And before this , when I had a RAM leak problem due Microsoft Update screwing up , after shutting down it would start back up with the RAM at 88% : )
Another fun thing about fast boot. If you dual boot into linux fast boot will break a lot of things. Disable it if you dual boot.
ntfsfix will actually help with allmost all problems caused by fast boot
@@ToasterWithFur Thanks. Good to know!
fast startup combined with the abomination that is NTFS has lost me hours due to having to reboot into windows when realising the drives were mounted read only
Really? I'm doing it right now and I don't have any problems
Yeah, that's what happened to me!
I appreciate you placing the sponsor at the end rather than the beginning.
I had heard about this, that for a full clean start it was better to use "restart" than "shut down". so I did ever since. but never knew exactly why was that. thank you for the info, and for the short and sweet video and not a 10-11 minute rant about a bunch on bullshit 😅
wow I always used to think restarts takes longer than just shutting down and powering back up, now I know why
As I computer tech... I find that the "fast startup" cause more issues than it solves.
Same here, and I always disable this feature by default unless the computer is old and runs on a slow mechanical HDD, but even in those cases, disabling Fast Startup does not always decrease start-up time.
@@Radidsh I an issue with 100% disk usage on startup. not even reinstalling windows would fix it, turned off fast startup and bam
@@Blockbustah fake news
@@ep6600 shutdown is useless, use Delete System32
My computer started so fresh that didnt wanted to boot up!
@@Blockbustah Man sounds awesome
I remember hybrid sleep, I think. It would put my computer in a seemingly sleeping state, never too wake up again. Except after losing all my data. Good times
oh, I remember that too! Felt great during lectures and seminars at university. Just great.
What's happening in sheikh jarrah neighberhood?
Israeli police forces are trying to evacuate the homes of Palestinian residentd in sheikh jarrah neighberhood. 500 Palestinians have been living in this place since they first opened their eyes. Ignoring what is enshrined in the declaration of human rights, the attacks carried out by the Israeli occupation forces against the residents in Jerusalem are ,by all means, a crime against humanity. Let us all give a voice to the voiceless and make the world aware of what brutality and violations Palestinians are suffering from #SaveSheikhJarrah
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@@adarsh_1 yeah :/
it was nice hibernate when powering a computer took 3 minutes to show login
Because of this video, I hooked up my PC to a GE 7-Day Programmable Power Strip with Digital Timer, 8 Grounded Outlets (4 Timed / 4 Always On), Indoor, 15 Amp, 1800W, Easy Presets and Custom Settings for Weekly Cycle, Minute Intervals, 15077 in Black. Now when my PC is shutdown at 1:00am by the surge protector, afterward it is really shutdown since there is no juice whatsover.
Noticed this a while ago when checking the task manager. Thanks to the timer exceeding the hours I had it running since startup that morning
I made a video mentioning this concept, and a bunch of tech geniuses with 40 years experience kept calling me an idiot and that I was confusing shutting down and going to sleep. 😂😂😂 now I'll just send them to this video.
Do it
Im p sure its a setting thats not on by default for everyone and can be turned off. When i start my pc back up all my software has to boot back up again.
@@jayjaygolden5123 still confused huh, watch the video again
@@jayjaygolden5123 It's on by default. Sometimes the option is not there (not sure why, i think because of older hardware or drivers maybe), but if it's there it is on by default.
@@Polmansol It is off by default. It's a question in the 1001 course exam.
so technically, everything in my life is just a lie huh 👁👄👁
So is this sentence
no
@@hyuichi5918 understood
yesn't
Everything from Microsoft anyhow.
Fast Startup doesn't work correct in my PC and Laptop. What happens instead is if I choose shutdown, the computers acts like shutting normally, then blackscreens for one second then throw me back to Windows as if I never shut down the system. Confuses the heck out of me so I disable it now by default.
As a IT specialist, this is really helpful information, I knew about the difference but this is great to send to new colleagues!
Same thing! That's actually good thing to know.
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yeah go ahead and do that. great way to show everyone you don't have a clue what you're doing
@@slamdangles I don't have time to tell every new employee the difference in a 10k employee corporation the difference.
A great way to show you are completely incompetent at your job is not using resources like videos to do the explaining for you but instead going over it 5 times a week, I guess your boss will really appreciate you wasting hours on it.
@@slamdangles ha ha get comebacked by this person above
I was actually suspicious whether or not my computer was actually "shutdown," or just in some kind of "sleep" since there's always a dim light in my computer even after it's been "shutdown." 🤔
just wait a bit and it'll go away
That's probably just something connected to the PSU's 5V standby (5vstb) A rail that is always on.
This rail normally only recharges the Real Time Clock (RTC)'s battery and of course keeps the power going to the RTC, without it your computer would loose time when off.
The other (important) use for this rail is to provide power for basic logic for things such as how it detects when you press the DC power button.
Other uses include powering some things such as the network controller and basic CPU functions for power on by network.
Disable fast startup
I had the same problem
depending on the desktop you may be able to also disable s4 or s5 deep sleep option in the bios. some bio's also have options to supply usb power when in low power states that may be on by default. but ive seen motherboards that no matter what would have an led on unless you fliped or unplugged the psu
I knew it wasn't because I dual boot. I was wondering why it was ignoring my boot order..
This is actually a good topic I've known about for a while, I'm surprised it's only now showing up.
I mean you could have told us
I have seen about this months ago on one of the LMG channels ....idk why would they make another video about this
I've known this ever since I messed around with Control Panel and got to the Power Options menu lol
First thing I do when I setup a pc is turn off fast startup causes more problems then it fixes (windows 10 should automatically disable fast startup if an SSD is detected as fast startup is pointless with an ssd) ,, because it has a tendency of breaking antivirus software because when you shutdown and boots back into Windows the antivirus software expects next boot up to be clean but the previous antivirus driver is still loaded and causes all sorts of problems in windows (that's one example) the other one is when the pc gets stuck and never updates (seen some PCs have uptime of 150 days because the owner has only ever chosen shutdown and broken the windows update service, until I picked reboot and everything fixed)
@@leexgx Fast Startup gave me the blue screen of death so I wasn't able to play games for 2 months ffs
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This fast start-up means that is faster to give you more headaches, specially when you want to hurry up.
Disabling fast startup also saves precious Write cycles on your SSD or M.2
That's no more than 100 MB of data. And you do it like twice a day.
The difference in lifetime is negligible.
Also, why tf aren't you keeping the entire system on RAM like a normal person?
RAM has infinite read and writes, and superior speed.
Only if you ever turn off your computer. I use the reboot function about once every 3 months. (Updates disabled from before MS blocked blocking updates). Not by choice mind you, Windows just becomes completely unstable after a ridiculously short run time. It would be an annual reboot if it were up to me
@@TheFinagle you use sleep instead?
Please say you do.
@@denniscleaver3559 I turn off my monitor to save power but dont run PC hardware sleep. I turn off page file to save on harddrive writes (also classic hdds). I basically run my PC like a server. Cool it like one too.
@@TheFinagle page file? Thanks I should turn that off too, forgot Windows even has paging.
Also, if you're treating your PC as a server, why not host a NAS, or a game server.
Linux also can host a PiHole DNS without much configuration, but on Windows it's waay too much work.
Just learned yesterday that Fast Startup will leave NTFS disks in a "dirty" state and can't be mounted as a writable disk in linux without extra work.
@@MsHojat I'm not sure if windows 7 had fastboot but it sounds likely. You can just run a command line tool called ntfsfix in Ubuntu. Not sure if it's available in other distros.
Fast startup can make windows fail to boot when changing different hardware like ram or GPU cause the disk/SSD system just recognizes previous hardware.
It happens to me while changing different ram and hard drive in laptop
@@claritoresdiano1021 whoa i just know this thing, well i guess i have to turn off that fast startup
Not only that, cant be copied just like that
They made it a mess for a purpose, so that the ordinary user cant repair or make a backup copy of a system easy
The fast startup works well for reducing caching (opening apps) and boot time on laptops and or tablets cause we don't change hardware.
In my experience when you upgrade or changing a hardware system (ram, SSD, hard drive, screen, GPU, and so on) first make sure should turn it off a fast startup, then you can turn it on back.
Its like the turbo button on the old dos pc's which didn't actually speed up the computer, but rather made it slower by lowering the cpu clock rate.
Found this out when my office PC's CPU Up Time was 3 years even though I shut it down.
This actually explains some problems and I didn't know about this! Big help. Two gold stars. 🌟🌟
Omfg ikr!? I wonder how many device driver headaches I've had were bc of this smfh
Didn't actually knew this. I always wondered why the restart function would take longer. 👌
Haha me too.
I always assumed that it was just psychological that restart took longer. Afterall, it's usually when my computer is bugging out and annoying me that I restart it, lol.
I did as well, I had an old laptop with an hdd that would start back up more slowly after a restart but not a shutdown, now we know why
Meanwhile my restart is just as fast.. then again i do have an ssd so that’s most likely why
I've experienced more than once waking up and finding out that my computer wasn't quite as how I left it. Some programs would be running, others not, and soon it became clear to me that Windows would sometimes update and restart without asking me. Very disconcerting.
Also, love the moustache, kinda like Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds.
I discovered that when my Razer Mouse still had power somehow, even while my PC was "OFF".
Eh, I have a switch on the back of my power supply for that.
Yeah, my glowing gaming mouse kept glowing while my laptop was unplugged and ‘shut down’.
Well this explains everything.
Has nothing to do with fast startup.. it's a BIOS setting to have your USB power always on
@@msmostafa13 But my LED Keyboard doesn't do neither did my previous mouse
"Power On" doesn't actually turn on your PC!
its all a hallucination
Your PC was never on, that was just a dream you had when you were in a coma
@@seancooper4058
There is no PC. Only strings vibrating in complex patterns that your mind interprets as a PC.
Underrated comment, this should have 1k likes
well if you have fast startup it was never turning your pc off so it never turns anything on
Riley is the funniest guy at ltt. I'd watch anything he's in just for his sense of humour
He’s been going consistently since like 2012 on NCIX tech daily
he’s pretty cute tho
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I set up a GPO at my office that disables fast startup. People would regularly complain that their computers were acting weird, and when I took a look at uptime in task manager, I saw months of time since the last fresh start. "But I shut it down every night!" they would say.
I've gotten far fewer complaints about weird behavior now.
I'm glad you showed me this setting in Windows 10. I have been using Shift-Shutdown forever on my HP laptop. Now, I've changed the setting on both our laptops.
I legit had those blue screens because of fast startup. For some reason, even with brand new components, it kept my pc from being on for more than 20 minutes because of what looked simultaneously like a kernel panic, AND a device driver failure. Thanks for the awesome feature yet again Microsoft.
That was... Way more informative than I expected. Would explain why I sometimes had to turn off the PC and then turn off the power supply for a few seconds, to get rid off some bugs that should go away after rebooting
could this explain why sometimes when i power off my laptop and disconnect the power outlet, the next day the laptop has zero battery? i have the belief that the laptop wakes up at some point and since is not plugged in it drains all the battery.
Ohhhh... that's why I've always had more stuff work with "Restart" than with "Shut down"
yeh definitely, restarting my laptop had solve lots of problem rather than shutting it down
clicking
Fast startup has actually caused possibly the most anxious episode in my life. I was experimenting with how viruses can disable your keyboard and wrote a little program that does exactly that. What i didn't think was gonna happen is that my mouse also got disabled. Being left with no choice, i pressed the shutdown button on my pc and rebooted it. But, i think because of fast startup, my mnk were STILL DISABLED. After being anxious for about 2 hours, i got everything working with system restore.
now u know all u needed to do was press restart button
Is this somehow related to updates supposedly going through at like 2am when the PC is off and I'm asleep?
For years, YEARS, I thought my computer was cursed (and by that, I mean I had some weird virus or something that I couldn't detect at all). I would start my computer in the morning, and notice that things were already pretty slow. I started to check my task manager each morning and restart it because my memory usage was super high for a fresh start up. For a random reason, I watched this video, changed the setting, and now my memory usage is normal :') I couldn't find this particular issue anywhere so I was hopeless, but thanks to this video, I don't have to suffer anymore. Thank you so much!
My biggest gripe with fast startup is how it affects the boot drive when using other operating systems.
Linux will only use the disk as a read-only device which isn't super great when you want to modify something on that drive.
That's why task manager keeps the "Uptime" clock on after shut down, it only resets when computer is restarted
Now it make sense why Restart Makes my PC feel more smoother 😂
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@@stormtruppen4039 thee caries
It causes my laptop to be more slower
Oh my God this explains an issue I've had in the past. I never click restart, I always click shut down then wait a few seconds. And one of the driver problems I had never fixed itself until I did a full unplug.
Yeah, according to the Task manager on my computer, I haven't shut down my machine in over a month now
exactly, I have been suspecting this for quite some time now when I saw it say that my pc up-time is almost a month
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Oh damn. I would need to check for my pc as well 😬
On mine one time it was a year. at first I was wondering if that meant how long windows was installed for. Which technically it counted that lol but now I have fast startup disabled. Might reenable it though.
You know how power users frequently suffer from issues with Windows? I decided to just let Windows update have its way with my PC and shit just works now, so my uptimes are short (11 days atm) but eh, it's never off when I need it. Pretty happy
Finally I get why restarting solves more problems than shut down. Thanks Microsoft for breaking something that worked perfectly fine.
And, non sarcastically, thanks Techquickie for confirming what I suspected for years.
And I get it why it takes a longer time than shutting down and opening it again.
For me, restarting seems to slow the computer down than just pressing down the power button
They didn't "break" anything. Melodramatic much?
Fast startup served a perfectly valid purpose when it was introduced (speeding up computers with slow drives), but is less useful now that even cheap drives can be fast.
Do you also blame Microsoft when something goes wrong with you car?
@@DovahFett okay microshit employee goodbye!
@@DovahFett except they kinda did. We already have sleep and hibernation states with this type of functionality, there was no reason to adjust the "shut down" function to incorporate the hibernate-esque function. It's yet another case of "Microsoft tampering with something that doesn't need changing". When someone hits "shut down" instead of hibernate, that should SHUT DOWN THE COMPUTER; FULL STOP. Nothing more, nothing less. If a user wants to put their computer into hibernation, than they can select the hibernate option. While working in IT has made me see my fair share less-than-intelligent users, I strongly believe MS should stop babying Windows users and things like Fast Startup only reinforce that.
This guy's hair is amazingly consistent between videos
Because he re-enabled fast startup.
@@Visstnok LMAO
Dont talk about hairs man ! i am bald and it hurts
@@kirandev Stop scratching it then
@@woroGaming nothing left to scratch
1:10 My computer takes more time to come back from hibernate than from starting fresh or even "fast start". I also disable C3/C4 states because I don't like software bugs and stuttering, give me the performance, DRAW ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD (Just 2KW).
Are you kidding me, i've been living with this whole lie my entire life. I am devastated.
Actually it appears this is a windows 10 specific thing. In windows 7 if you pressed shutdown, it did a full shutdown.
U look older than windows 10
@@jjpark98 so if my laptop used to be Windows 7 but updated to Windows 10 will it shutdown fully or no?
@@Pugz9 No, this is a feature of windows 10's software, not your computer's hardware. Check in power settings to make sure it's off if you want it off.
Another big disadvantage with fast startup: The filesystem remains locked, so when booting into Linux you cannot access the filesystem. Can be problematic when either dual booting or trying to copy the OS to a new drive with clonezilla or something similar.
for some incredible coincidence, having watched this a day or so ago, today i literally had the driver power state failure BSOD occur.
that is one heck of a coincidence lmao
true, i have a friend that had a problem with some drivers failing during games, and i did everything except this, i didnt even remember it, and this totally random video just fixed a problem i was killing my head with
Now I know why our helpdesk told me I need to do a Restart instead of a Shutdown. I find if I don’t do a periodic restart my laptop becomes unstable.
Thanks for the good info.
the main issue I have with fast start up is that is borks linux installs and even breaks grub on already installed dual boots, after a windows update is run. it's super annoying.
you can also disable it in an admin powershell or command line by typing "powercfg -h off"
I noticed this when I looked at task manager and my CPU had been on for 2 weeks
rookie numbers.
I wrote a program to tell me how long my PC had been on and it told me my PC had been on for days just after I powered it up. I thought there was a bug in my program, but it turned out to be this detrimental feature which instead of making my PC start up faster, it just made my PC shut down much slower.
If the “Turn on fast startup (recommended)” option is missing in the Shutdown Settings, then you have to enable Hibernation on your computer.
Here’s how:
Press the Windows logo key + X on your keyboard and then select “Command Prompt (Admin)“.
At the command box type the following command and press Enter to enable hibernation:
powercfg /hibernate on
Close the Command Prompt window and then re-open the Control Panel. Fast Startup should be there now.
I didn't know that I was looking for this, thanks!
Thank You for this video. Whenever I have to do a "restart" to fix something, I have a habit to shutdown, Power Off PC, and start again, I used to believe somehow that was more HARDCORE than clicking restart.
Me on Linux wondering why this was recommended to me but still watched anyways 👁️👄👁️
Which distro?
@@y0yGotHam Arch ....... BTW!
@@y0yGotHam Mint
Same here. I'm on peppermint.
MANJARO LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WIIIIIIIIIE IM NOT HIGH GUYS
"have you ever wondered how your pc boots up really fast from a shutdown?"
me with a new-ish laptop thats built like actual dogshit: 👁👁 *pardon ?*
Well that explains why when I click “Update and shut down” it always restarts anyways.
Moreover, because of this "Fast Startup" mode mounting NTFS partition on Linux in dual boot is in the read only mode. And only a led blinking before final switch off on my laptop gave me some clue that something wrong with the "Shutdown" process on Windows.
Was looking for this comment, lost count of how many times I was forced to boot into windows just to do full shutdown and be able to access my files on Linux smh
@@just_ugu I'm glad this is helpful for someone. Hope you were able to manage this problem solved.
"It is now safe to shut down your computer." -- windows 95
"It's now safe to turn off your computer." -Windows 3.1
windows 98 said that too. good times, good times
next up: covering your facecam doesnt actually cover it. we are still watching you and know everything
If you have an IFON don’t forget to check your usage times too YA CRACKHEAD 🤣 ( I’m at 5 hrs daily ) 🤣
T r y m e
Do a video on S0(Modern Standby) and S3 sleep states. And why S0 sleep causes hot laptops that are supposed to be sleeping when in bag.
yes! While you're not watching, it can "fetch emails", update itself, spy on you, do whatever it desires, but can't even keep playing the freaking music! So much potential goes totally in the wrong direction. It's not the mode that is the problem, it is the implementation. Where's my ability to control what apps i want to run during s0 sleep and what absolutely not?
I appreciate you putting the plug ad near the end.
So that's why my windows update corrupt files sometimes, I usually turn off the power of my PC after shutting down.
I had to reinstall windows 3 times only this year, thanks!
Thanks for the Shift+Shutdown trick. I was booting via the BIOS when I needed to do a full shutdown power cycle to clear out some caches. Check the CPU Uptime value in the Task Manager if you want to see whether your machine has fully shut down lately.
Oh so THATS why last time I checked my uptime it was saying 136 hours despite the fact I actually regularly turn off my UPS when I'm gone for a long time.
It's currently at 5 days uptime. Thanks Microsoft. It's not like this might kill the UPS battery of the power went out when I'm not home or anything to turn off the UPS.
@Yontek Nohara My system still draws power when "turned off" unless I hit my PSU power switch on the back. How do I know this? My keyboard and mouse still light up, the power light on my GPU is still on as is the power light on the motherboard. All this despite my BIOS having USB Power set to only while running.
Was wondering why my battery would still lose charge when the laptop was "off"
Batteries will naturally discharge and degrade over time. It’s important to fully discharge a battery if you know you won’t use it for a while as this will greatly extend its life.
@@Senorpoontang Well, actually fully discharging does basically the same thing as keeping it at 100% since all of the electrons are on one side in both situations. If a battery won't be used for a long period of time, keeping it at 50% is better, but since it'll degrade even with that it's better to check on it every once in a while.
@@cenzylor That goes against every manufacturer’s recommendation for lithium ion batteries and what I was taught at uni. Do you mind explaining the mechanism behind the idea of leaving it at 50% charge further?
@@cenzylor it doesn’t really make sense to me that leaving the battery in an excited state would preserve its lifespan. That would suggest that equilibrium is at 50% charge therefore a dead battery will naturally charge itself?
@@Senorpoontang So first, sorry for the late answer.
Honestly, what you're saying makes a lot of sense and I can't really argue much if you were taught that stuff at uni but from what I know, using the charge in the battery causes chemical energy to turn in to electrical energy while transferring electrons from the negative side to the positive side, so 0% shouldn't be a neutral state.
Plus, it said that I should leave my computer's battery at 50% if I'm not going to use it for long periods of time in the manual, and while that doesn't mean every manufacturer does it I don't think a company on such a large scale would make a mistake like that. It could just be that my memory is not that good, though. I'll have to try and learn a bit more.
I have to test this now. Takes me 8 seconds currently. Pretty happy with that speed. My fast startup was disabled by default.