@@HayMakerMK0310 i have seen windows 10, 8.1, 8, and 7. 7 is like the most basic and simple OS of the 2010s, 8 and 8.1 are the tablet slop os, and 10/11 is windows 7 + telemetry. WINDOWS 11 START MENU LOOKS LIKE SLOP. windows 10 start menu is the best imo. since windows 7, 8, and 8.1 are not supported anymore, if i had to choose between 10 and 11, i would choose 10 because no AI and Recall forced into my system.
I think it's a shame that Microsoft have made Windows 10 and 11 so unfriendly to use that we have to down load software to make it usable again. The Windows 11 start menu with the start menu in the middle of the screen is totally in the wrong place. I think it's a stupid place to put it. Because when you have got your web browser or other applications open you cannot see the start menu to get to it easy. The start menu should be on the bottom left or at the top of the screen on the lefts is all right. But not right in the middle of the taskbar like that. Also the Windows 11 start menu is not even a start menu because it just opens out to the control panel. You don't get a list of applications you have installed like you do on the REAL start menu you used to get in Windows 7. I used to use Classic Shell (now called Open Shell) for the same reasons as this. Because I hated the Metro theme on Windows 8 and I had difficulty finding anything on the start screen Also I did not like the look of it either. So Classic Shell did give me a Windows XP style start menu. I am glad they are still developing it for Windows 11. Still Microsoft should provide users with an alternative to the Metro start menu. We shouldn't have to download other programs just to get a proper start menu that we had on Windows 7. That's one of the many problems with using Windows 10 and 11.
It really is a shame. I remember when you could control all the aspects of the user interface in XP and 7, and then from Windows 8 onwards, there has been such a lack of control over the user interface. I also remember people on Windows 8 using start menu apps because of the removal of the start menu
@@technoWZ5598 Yes they did including me. I used Classic Shell on Windows 8 because it was the only way to get the start menu. Now people still have to because Windows 11 is even worse. I don't know why people stay on Windows and put up with it all. They should just leave Windows and try Linux as I have done. Now I am here to stay on Linux. I am never going back to Windows.
It's easy enough to put the start menu at the bottom left without the need for extra software. Sure there remains a lot to complain about, but it's placement shouldn't be just go into the settings and change it back.
I've been using Open Shell for ages now and had used Classic Shell before it. The menu skin I like is Fluent Metro, it's nice and clean and you can add transparency. I forgot how to make the taskbar totally transparent so I got Translucent TB to do it instead. Couple those with System Transparency and you get a really cool look in dark mode.
Yes Roger mate I use Translucent too and have done for a long time now and I am thinking of using Open Shell again because of the pedantic nature of the standard Windows start menu.
I had not known about Open Shell. Have installed it and is so much better than Win11's start menu. Easy to use, and so customisable. Love this one, thanks for posting !
i used Classic shell for years. To the point that I didn't even really know how to use the Windows 10 or Windows 11 start menus. About 2yrs ago I decided to just use the Windows 11 Start menu and I've gotten used to it but I think I'm going to go back to using this and having my Windows 7 start menu.
I started using classic shell from windows 8 until now , sometimes it's more gorgeous & productive to " stick to the classics". Only MicroSh*t what's to teach us something new everytime. Thx Brian&The Team
I don't mind the Windows 11 start menu that much but have used Classic/open shell back in the Windows 8 days. Windows 10 I didn't feel the need to use an alternative start menu but I might try Classic shell once more. Thanks for the reminder.
If Microsoft could let us have more control over the UI, we wouldn't need start menu software to make Windows 11 more usable. So sad that Microsoft is more concerned about money than quality.
I haven't really used the start menu in years (since MS stuffed it from 8.1). I haven't worried about organising anything in the start menu because it's a waste of time. I just use the search function to find what I'm after. When/if I ever do switch over to Win11 it's nice to know there's something like open shell.
Hmm Brian mate I have used tis software in the past and I just might try it again because the current 11 start menu is a tad frustrating to use for example I cannot access This PC without having to type it in the run window and even then it just refers me to Control Panel!! My only concern is that I do like to keep a few things on my taskbar such as Command prompt, Snipping tool, regedit, Settings, Disk Cleanup, and a few other basic things for example and if this software does not keep those pinned items it will be of not much use to me. Now as someone else has commented it is just so maddening that Microsoft have made it necessary to download software such as Open Shell to make out machines more user friendly. Yes mate more of this sort of content please and you have a great Easter weekend too!!
Nice. I think, I will do this. I mean whats the worse that can happen, right? I am already dealing with the worse windows 11 start menu, so I think this is a bit plush. Anyway, have great Easter, see you on the other side.
Thanks, Brian. I am definitely going to get this. I do like Windows 11 but the start menu, nope! Will let you know. Honestly, whoever created the Windows 11 start menu, I think needs evaluating.. lol Have a great long weekend. Thanks for the video. Take care
I have been using since forever. I am running 10 with the old classic shell and I have never had a problem. It doesn't take log to setup. The horror show (that was Windows 8) spurred me on to find classic shell.
Thanks Brian its great to have an alternative to the Win-11 menu which in my opinion is horrid, I use Explorer Patcher for customization but Open Shell would certainly be a great option
Tick the box "Show all settings" and you will get much more options to tweak. Combined with the explorer patcher you can change a lot when it comes to your windows 11 look .. you can put even the taskbar wherever you want.
By the way you can click on the start menu after choosing an option an see what it will look like. If you don't like it then don't click ok an you can just choose another option. in other words as long as you don't click ok you can preview options.
I know what I'm about to ask you about has nothing to do with the topic in this video, but can you recommend a good antivirus software I can buy that works in Windows 11 and MacBook pro, or apple software?
If you have it installed on a computer running Windows 10 do you have to reinstall if you upgrade to Windows 11? I have been using it since last year when my Windows 7 computer died and I bought a new computer with Windows 10. I wanted it to look like Windows 7.
I have a portable drive that that cat knocked off and damaged, I was in the process of super slowly transferring everything off to a new drive, it would transfer at 35mb for about 3 seconds after boot, then thereafter about 300kb. But it stopped even reading it. I have tried some of your older vids to fix it which never worked, but you know what you've done in this category and I know i've missed some, can you share me the links of all the methods. you would suggest now a days...search function doesn't work as well as it used to. Thank you
Looks neat, i do not mind the 11 menu as such, would just be nice to get rid of the recommended section. as far as i can find it will always have the recommended text whether it is enabled or not.
Since WIndows' UI design is clearly aiming to monetize users with ads and other non-OS garbage, how long do you think before M$ just disallows the use of tools like this?
Man can you explain to me, I have installed windows pro edition (earlier it was home) the specs are 8gb i5 8th gen, vram 2gb radeon 520 but even counter strike 2002 is lagging or stuttering, I don't know the reason . It's a laptop
Thank you my start menu looks so much better now...can someone maybe tell me why my task bar does not want to change to what I set it to it just stay as my default color
Weird, I tried to use OpenShell on Windows 11 about a month ago and it wouldn't work for nothing. I rebooted, uninstalled, reinstalled, etc. it drove me nuts. Ended up using Start11. Looks like whatever problem it was having is fixed now obviously. I might try to get it to work again. I like Start11 it just feels like OpenShell is faster and less bloaty. That might just be my brain playing tricks on me though..
good day britec09 why is it when i install windows 7 in other pc the internet is unable i dont know what is happening coz last 2 years all my pc is windows 7 hope you can help me
To be honest i do like the xp and win 7 style and the whole thing of being able to use themes like in Windows 95 and 98 or in xp should be a great option if Microsoft "allowed" us that option again and therefore måde some themes packs for us to download or at least made a pack that allows us to go from the stupid win 11 task bar / start menu to that option like the one in xp where you could change the start menu from the one with the green botten to the win 95/98/2000 ish one so that it was the whole kind a layout that changed but also the stupid right click and then have to click on more options to get the settings for the screen or copy paste something boy i hate that part 😡 its dumb
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This is SURELY going to upset the 12 year old that designed the windows 11 interface. How will he ever find Minecraft now?
😂😂😂😂
Windows 11 start menu is probably one of the worst things i have ever looked at.
@@dynahzm U must have not seen 8-8.1-10
I would rock my windows 7 all my life if games would run it without problem.
@@HayMakerMK0310 i have seen windows 10, 8.1, 8, and 7. 7 is like the most basic and simple OS of the 2010s, 8 and 8.1 are the tablet slop os, and 10/11 is windows 7 + telemetry. WINDOWS 11 START MENU LOOKS LIKE SLOP. windows 10 start menu is the best imo. since windows 7, 8, and 8.1 are not supported anymore, if i had to choose between 10 and 11, i would choose 10 because no AI and Recall forced into my system.
I think it's a shame that Microsoft have made Windows 10 and 11 so unfriendly to use that we have to down load software to make it usable again. The Windows 11 start menu with the start menu in the middle of the screen is totally in the wrong place. I think it's a stupid place to put it. Because when you have got your web browser or other applications open you cannot see the start menu to get to it easy. The start menu should be on the bottom left or at the top of the screen on the lefts is all right. But not right in the middle of the taskbar like that. Also the Windows 11 start menu is not even a start menu because it just opens out to the control panel. You don't get a list of applications you have installed like you do on the REAL start menu you used to get in Windows 7. I used to use Classic Shell (now called Open Shell) for the same reasons as this. Because I hated the Metro theme on Windows 8 and I had difficulty finding anything on the start screen Also I did not like the look of it either. So Classic Shell did give me a Windows XP style start menu. I am glad they are still developing it for Windows 11. Still Microsoft should provide users with an alternative to the Metro start menu. We shouldn't have to download other programs just to get a proper start menu that we had on Windows 7. That's one of the many problems with using Windows 10 and 11.
I totally agree
It really is a shame. I remember when you could control all the aspects of the user interface in XP and 7, and then from Windows 8 onwards, there has been such a lack of control over the user interface. I also remember people on Windows 8 using start menu apps because of the removal of the start menu
@@technoWZ5598 Yes they did including me. I used Classic Shell on Windows 8 because it was the only way to get the start menu. Now people still have to because Windows 11 is even worse. I don't know why people stay on Windows and put up with it all. They should just leave Windows and try Linux as I have done. Now I am here to stay on Linux. I am never going back to Windows.
@@AndreaBorman I'm here to stay on Linux too. I'm not putting up with Microsoft treating us like lab rats
It's easy enough to put the start menu at the bottom left without the need for extra software. Sure there remains a lot to complain about, but it's placement shouldn't be just go into the settings and change it back.
Great video. I've been using Open Shell since Windows 7 using the Classic Style. Still use it on Windows 11.
I've been using Open Shell for ages now and had used Classic Shell before it. The menu skin I like is Fluent Metro, it's nice and clean and you can add transparency. I forgot how to make the taskbar totally transparent so I got Translucent TB to do it instead. Couple those with System Transparency and you get a really cool look in dark mode.
Fluent Metro is nice
Yes Roger mate I use Translucent too and have done for a long time now and I am thinking of using Open Shell again because of the pedantic nature of the standard Windows start menu.
@@johngoard8272 Go for it, it works a treat.
Open shell is working well but the font size is too small. Only the silver theme let you to increase it.
I had not known about Open Shell. Have installed it and is so much better than Win11's start menu. Easy to use, and so customisable. Love this one, thanks for posting !
i used Classic shell for years. To the point that I didn't even really know how to use the Windows 10 or Windows 11 start menus. About 2yrs ago I decided to just use the Windows 11 Start menu and I've gotten used to it but I think I'm going to go back to using this and having my Windows 7 start menu.
Just installed this on my windows 11 laptop. Thank you. This is so much better.
I've been using Classic Shell for years, glad to know that someone has continued development on this project 👍.
I started using classic shell from windows 8 until now , sometimes it's more gorgeous & productive to " stick to the classics".
Only MicroSh*t what's to teach us something new everytime.
Thx Brian&The Team
I don't mind the Windows 11 start menu that much but have used Classic/open shell back in the Windows 8 days. Windows 10 I didn't feel the need to use an alternative start menu but I might try Classic shell once more. Thanks for the reminder.
Much as I hate Win 11, I don't mind the Start Menu at all but it's nice to know there are alternatives.
Thanks
If Microsoft could let us have more control over the UI, we wouldn't need start menu software to make Windows 11 more usable. So sad that Microsoft is more concerned about money than quality.
I haven't really used the start menu in years (since MS stuffed it from 8.1). I haven't worried about organising anything in the start menu because it's a waste of time. I just use the search function to find what I'm after.
When/if I ever do switch over to Win11 it's nice to know there's something like open shell.
Hmm Brian mate I have used tis software in the past and I just might try it again because the current 11 start menu is a tad frustrating to use for example I cannot access This PC without having to type it in the run window and even then it just refers me to Control Panel!! My only concern is that I do like to keep a few things on my taskbar such as Command prompt, Snipping tool, regedit, Settings, Disk Cleanup, and a few other basic things for example and if this software does not keep those pinned items it will be of not much use to me. Now as someone else has commented it is just so maddening that Microsoft have made it necessary to download software such as Open Shell to make out machines more user friendly. Yes mate more of this sort of content please and you have a great Easter weekend too!!
Now you hit me again with something genius - Thanks Brian and Co. ❤
Nice. I think, I will do this. I mean whats the worse that can happen, right? I am already dealing with the worse windows 11 start menu, so I think this is a bit plush. Anyway, have great Easter, see you on the other side.
Give it a go
Thanks, Brian.
I am definitely going to get this. I do like Windows 11 but the start menu, nope!
Will let you know.
Honestly, whoever created the Windows 11 start menu, I think needs evaluating.. lol
Have a great long weekend.
Thanks for the video.
Take care
I have been using since forever. I am running 10 with the old classic shell and I have never had a problem. It doesn't take log to setup. The horror show (that was Windows 8) spurred me on to find classic shell.
Thanks Brian its great to have an alternative to the Win-11 menu which in my opinion is horrid, I use Explorer Patcher for customization but Open Shell would certainly be a great option
I remember when Windows had the built-in option to chose classic or new menu. Wish they still did that.
Interesting. Thanks for the review. I do miss Windows 7, my favorite Windows system of all time. 😀
I came over from win 8 .. totally confused... you set me straight thank you🌝
Tick the box "Show all settings" and you will get much more options to tweak.
Combined with the explorer patcher you can change a lot when it comes to your windows 11 look .. you can put even the taskbar wherever you want.
Thanks for this. Does it restore the ability to make your own toolbars? I used to have a folder with shortcuts in it which I accessed from a toolbar.
Thanks for this one.
And yes, more free options please.
By the way you can click on the start menu after choosing an option an see what it will look like. If you don't like it then don't click ok an you can just choose another option. in other words as long as you don't click ok you can preview options.
I know what I'm about to ask you about has nothing to do with the topic in this video, but can you recommend a good antivirus software I can buy that works in Windows 11 and MacBook pro, or apple software?
Thanks for all the help with yes I would like to see more free stuff for windows 11
If you have it installed on a computer running Windows 10 do you have to reinstall if you upgrade to Windows 11? I have been using it since last year when my Windows 7 computer died and I bought a new computer with Windows 10. I wanted it to look like Windows 7.
Windows 11 Update 23H2 has apparently blocked Open Shell. "Smart App Control has blocked this app." Got a work-around?
Thanks Jim. I'm giving it a go! And I enjoy this kind of content.
I see that the section skin has changed from earlier versions. What are going to change when you have an earlier version?
How do I get the start menu of classic shell to open up when I hit the start button? In windows 11?
Thanks, just what I was looking for.
Glad I could help
I've booked mark this video. I'll be sure to use Open Shell when I get my new gaming laptop sometime later in late 2025.
I've just downloaded the Open Shell in my laptop and try out this software anyways!
I have a portable drive that that cat knocked off and damaged, I was in the process of super slowly transferring everything off to a new drive, it would transfer at 35mb for about 3 seconds after boot, then thereafter about 300kb. But it stopped even reading it.
I have tried some of your older vids to fix it which never worked, but you know what you've done in this category and I know i've missed some, can you share me the links of all the methods.
you would suggest now a days...search function doesn't work as well as it used to.
Thank you
Looks neat, i do not mind the 11 menu as such, would just be nice to get rid of the recommended section. as far as i can find it will always have the recommended text whether it is enabled or not.
Windows 11 start menu is like marmite
Since WIndows' UI design is clearly aiming to monetize users with ads and other non-OS garbage, how long do you think before M$ just disallows the use of tools like this?
I loooove Open-Shell.
just noticed the XP zune! that was the best theme ever, i am soo getting this.
I agree
I wanna know how to get a windows Vista Taskbar and start menu??????
Great, thanks👍👍, for me, the start menu from windows 7 was the best!
You're welcome!
Been using Classic Shell for about 10 yearswithout any difficulty, so no need to switch.
I like the StartAllBack, paid but works well
paid is better
@@Britec09 lol. not always but I like this one 🙂
Man can you explain to me, I have installed windows pro edition (earlier it was home) the specs are 8gb i5 8th gen, vram 2gb radeon 520 but even counter strike 2002 is lagging or stuttering, I don't know the reason . It's a laptop
Thank you my start menu looks so much better now...can someone maybe tell me why my task bar does not want to change to what I set it to it just stay as my default color
Weird, I tried to use OpenShell on Windows 11 about a month ago and it wouldn't work for nothing. I rebooted, uninstalled, reinstalled, etc. it drove me nuts. Ended up using Start11. Looks like whatever problem it was having is fixed now obviously. I might try to get it to work again. I like Start11 it just feels like OpenShell is faster and less bloaty. That might just be my brain playing tricks on me though..
Start11 is better than Open Shell
Can we move it to the top?
Windows really lacks in customisation. I don't know whether it's done deliberately, or they are really crude and lax.
Thank you Britec09
good day britec09 why is it when i install windows 7 in other pc the internet is unable i dont know what is happening coz last 2 years all my pc is windows 7 hope you can help me
At just a few dollars, Start11 seems well worth the investment compared to this open source option for making Windows 11 reasonably usable.
Brian, you say you use (pay for) Start 11 as opposed to this Open-Shell !!. Can you say "WHY" in a nut shell....so to speak.
Best alternative
I use it when I'm forced to run Windows, otherwise it's Linux Mint for everything else.
I liked Linux Mint
There's no link.
i deleted start11 cause i liked windhawk more and uninstalling start1 cause so many problems to my laptop im never installing it again on any device
Thanks
Welcome
I used Start11
Start11 is what I use
Thanks 👍👍👍
Welcome 👍
I've used them all, but prefer Start11.
To be honest i do like the xp and win 7 style and the whole thing of being able to use themes like in Windows 95 and 98 or in xp should be a great option if Microsoft "allowed" us that option again and therefore måde some themes packs for us to download or at least made a pack that allows us to go from the stupid win 11 task bar / start menu to that option like the one in xp where you could change the start menu from the one with the green botten to the win 95/98/2000 ish one so that it was the whole kind a layout that changed but also the stupid right click and then have to click on more options to get the settings for the screen or copy paste something boy i hate that part 😡 its dumb
It not that I don’t want to pay for them it’s because I’m retired and can’t afford all the extra
That is fine, no need to explain
I use open shell, can't fault it
Nice software
👍🙂