Jeep Grand Cherokee VS BMW X5 | Fifth Gear Classic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
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It’s funny how at the time we all thought the X5 was better. Today, you see TONS of these Jeep’s still on the road, but almost none of these X5s have survived (at least in America)
@@MrKeefrichards yeah that’s something I won’t ever understand. In the UK bmw is a well built brand, but in America they break and cost thousands to keep running
@@wl2486 The X series BMW's sold in the USA are assembled there, whereas the ones sold in Europe are made in either Germany or Austria.
I'm guessing variances between plants probably has something to do with it. Not throwing shade, even Boeing has differences between their Seattle and SC plants.
Also, a lot of European countries have relatively stringent annual vehicle tests, and most people I know stick to an annual/ mileage service schedule.
@@kevinsmith841 that’s an interesting point, but this is pervasive throughout the BMW lineup. I have a friend that bought a 2011 BMW 328i for $6,000, and it cost him $8,500 in maintenance in just the first year. Stories like that are unfortunately quite common
@@kevinsmith841 whereas if you buy an Asian car or an American car, theoretically it’s maintained in similar intervals, but they don’t break and aren’t as expensive to fix
@@wl2486 Had a look, and the manufacturing situation is pretty much the same for all BMWs. US cars are tend not to be made in Europe. German cars don't have a bulletproof reputation in the UK, but it isn't uncommon to see >100k mile examples. But yeah, they are expensive to repair when they do go wrong. Out of interest, how often are american cars typically serviced?
And yeah, the thinking man over in the UK will buy a Japanese/Korean car for reliability. My 2010 mazda with 68k miles still feels pretty solid.
You assess a proper AWD with arguably the best 4wd system ever and say we probably wont go off road. You work for BMW no doubt and as for your channel this is the 1st and last time.
Plato missed the point as usual the jeep is off road car first then on road car second. The BMW X5 can't go the places off road like the jeep can,and you hardly see any X5's on the road because they are junk and unreliable, while the plastic jeep with that beautiful 5.7 hemi V8 crap's on anything from the BMW stable at that time and even now,wake up Plato!!!!
Had mine for years and have no plans to sell. Just fix the stuff that breaks and keep driving it.
That 5.7 Jeep would trounce the BMW in a drag race and outperform handily off road but he wouldn't bring that subject up at all. Winner Jeep!
He's english... of course he'll be bashing on something that says "USA" in it 😅 He doesn't get it. He said it himself, so it's nice of him to at least admit he doesn't understand what's special about 5.7 hemi WK with Quardra Drive 2 that would be pulling those BMW's from a ditch all day long, when BMW's systems would get them stuck everywhere. Guy's just nitpicking about "problems" that aren't there.
Love my BMW m5..but live my gc 5.7 and gv 3.0l diesel...no offroader like the jeeps
The second you need to put it in 4low with QDII, the Jeep wins hands down!
If you are exclusively driving on roads… don’t buy either!
American cars make sense when priced in America. When you swap the dollar price for the same in pounds (as usually happens) they do not. You end up assessing them against cars they don't compete with in thier home market and can't compete with here.
My dad had a grand cherokee 4.7, 2005 and bmw x5 4.8, 2008.
So, almost 20 years old cherokee still alive and good drive, cant say the same about bmw.
I purchased this Jeep in the 5.7l trim as my first vehicle that I paid for when I found a job post-graduation. It was used with 34k miles on it. I liked the X5 back then as well. Looking back, BMW is still the more "luxurious" and "fun" to drive on a road. However, I was not only thinking about that. The Jeep was cheaper, and I lived in an area with snow and wanted to be more outdoorsy. The recent BMW lines are probably still more luxurious and fun to drive, but I see more Jeep WKs on the road nowadays than those X5s. BMWs reliability is not good, but tbf Jeep hasn't been reliable, especially since the FIAT merger. Yet, my Jeep is still going and outlasted my wife's Nissan. When we had a rush hour traffic snowstorm where it made news for people being stranded overnight, I told my wife to take my Jeep, and she rode easily over snow mounds where others struggled. I have rode through muddy wooded areas to get to fishing spots. This was back when I only had "street/road" tires (not all terrain) on the Jeep. We have kids, pets, and outdoor gear. I can't imagine throwing that stuff in a luxurious leather padded BMW. I've said all this to say, I don't think there was ever a real competition between these two vehicles. It is about location and how you plan to use it. Two different audiences imo. Still is in 2022, but Jeep has come a ways a bit with luxurious additions. In retrospect, I'd still make the same purchase if given the choice between the two. It was actually between a 4runner and GC at the time, but Jeep was more affordable. Today, I actually wouldn't purchase either GC or BMW because of reliability issues, and I fix my own vehicles. Looking at an Acura or Toyota. But if you still want a BMW or Jeep, buy what you wish. I actually like the special edition "Trackhawk" Jeep, but that is a whole other conversation in price and niche market.
My dad had one of these which I drove a fair amount (2009). Bin quality plastics sure, steering a bit vague but otherwise it drove fine on road imo, and the driving position was great.
JEEP ❤️
show me a bmw owner, that would actually go off road, into forest, to get some wood or just to drive to his offgrid cabin. no. he got the height, 4x4...but its still made for roads or some slight rock paved road. thats why you got that JGCH
Well the X5s are all off the roads, and these are still going.
Plus, parts are reasonable and reliability is great. Sounds nice too, either diesel or petrol. More relaxing to drive than a range rover too of the same period. Especially considering the Jeep will work, unlike the range rover. Honestly, the range rover my granddad has was just so pathetically unreliable.
My X5 is still going. Take care of it will last longer than the Jeep, I’ve seen 500k miles out of the e53 without boring the cylinders. X5s are reliable, the cheap people who buy them can’t afford oem pets and get the weak plastic crap that breaks shortly and leads to another break.
@@aidenp5768 You having one does not make it a reliable car, it's really not and is best avoided.
@@kristoffer3000
So I don’t mean anything? I’m just lucky that I don’t get major problems? Or maybe it’s because I know how to take care of a car. Maybe because I buy oem parts only. Maybe because I warm it up before going, maybe it’s because I don’t wait for my parts to break, maybe because when I see the check engine light I don’t just wait and try to see what happens and believe it might go away, maybe also because I accept the expensive prices to pay in a car that was expensive. It’s a cool suv, the original sporty suv on the market. The fastest suv if it’s time. I’ve taken my X5 almost everywhere, live in the north east where it gets 103F in the summer and entire cold winter below 40F or even -4F on some days, salty roads, snow all the time, driven through floods, went real off-roading without any mods on the car just tires, went camping and not once did it leave me stranded, not once with it’s reliable M54 engine that everyone in the bmw community knows it’s the most easiest to maintain and reliable but only outsiders like you claim shit like unreliability without having an experience and do not try claiming you had an X5 for the sake to prove a point. It’s always you people who never owned anything high end to say some bs reliability issues. Every suv that’s high end have people like you who can’t wait to type reliability issues without knowing, or taking care of it correctly as if it were some cheap vehicle that takes basic maintenance. Luxury SUVs from Germany are complex and are amazing to drive and what makes them amazing is the experience and tech when they break it’s not cheap. No tech has damaged in my X5 but sensors in the engine, inside I haven’t replaced a thing. No I do not have issues with transmission, or a damn transfer case. And even if I did have trans issues 1. it’s made by GM and not by ZF like the 6 speed some options had, 2. I never changed the trans oil so It would be my fault if its stiff when shifting. Issues I’ve had were oil housing and head gaskets which were at high milage, replaced control arms, suspension, tie rods, rear camber issues, fan belt, alternator and the mass air flow, simple shit that normal Toyota’s would have changed out in high milage but in a real car that it’s cool and definitely not boring like you Toyota fans. My X5 has no rust, it’s washed every 3 days in the winter, no swirl marks and a few chips on the hood, well taken care of and never will sell it, I’ll just be adding cars into my collection.
@@aidenp5768 Your anecdotes are not worth a damn thing, they are unreliable as fuck, you just got lucky.
Statistics don't lie and they all show the X5 was a fucking turd.
You say I'm a Toyota fan based on what exactly? calling a spade a spade?
I'm actually a big BMW fan, I'm just not blinded by that like you seemingly are.
BMWs in Europe are usually better built than the BMWs built for the US. Its similar to Mercs.
Not throwing shade but that's usually the case.
Also the way people maintain cars varies by country. I see more broke bimmers in the US than in the UK, and that says something...
The main advantage of the Jeep vs the BMW is the bill you get after every service. The next best thing is the good old reliable US built performance and reliability compared to some fancy European car. Plus the Jeep's design is timeless, you could arrive somewhere in a 20 year old Jeep and attract a lot more attenion than you would from a dated looking 20 year old European SUV.
Don't think the Grand Cherokee was ever built to last as long as something that everyone forgot by now. It also was more than likely built for American roads and off-roads rather than the lil baby roads of the UK.
Interesting
For every 100 of these Jeeps I see on the road I might see one x5 of similar vintage. For an inferior vehicle it sure seems to have outlasted the bmw. Where are all the early X5s? Sitting on the scrap heap it seems
Did I understand correctly that are you saying that you don't see on roads any old X5 E53 ? I can tell the opposite, on eastern EU you see many, but many old X5 E53 and almost none Jeep like that.
Not mine. 2004 Still going strong since 2007 when I got it. Do not claim X5s are scrap cars just because the cheap owners who buy it second hand can’t maintain them correctly or least buy the original parts instead of Chinese eBay knock offs. Please research before claiming that. There’s too many people misleading BMWs rep when more than half of them are truly great cars and reliable. Seen 500k miles out of the M54 motor in my BMW, without boring the block.
@@aidenp5768 How many transfer cases have you gone through though?
@@kristoffer3000
0 and I can promise you that. Had it when it was basically new.
@@aidenp5768 Then you've been extremely lucky.
Fast forward to 2021 and most of the X5s are in the junkyard and these, as plastic as they are, are on still the road.
Of course these should've never been compared.
Maybe where you live, but I see lots of older X5s on the road.
If you live in the U.S, that explains why you don’t see X5s on the road. People over here are cheap asf and when they buy an X5 for cheap they think they’re suppose to treat it like how they got it..BMWs don’t take regular fuel, regular oil, they don’t stand over 7k+ mile oil changes, these BMWs don’t like acceleration when cold abuse, and the biggest dumb move, which my dad was when he had one was buying cheap parts thinking they do the job right, they fix problems temporarily then a few months later same issue but worse and damaging other parts then replaced them with even more garbage lol. BMWs are reliable there’s only a handful of engines from bmw that are troublesome but if you know how to maintain a car correctly bmw will last. These cars aren’t simple Toyota’s you see on the road they’re high performance no matter the price you see used for a 10+ year old build date which Americans really fail to understand, everywhere else in the world seems to take care of there cars. We don’t see German people complain about there X5s and Range rovers or the U.K..
People who say "x and x shouldn't be compared" are idiots, especially when they're literally competitors in the same class of car.
@@FROOB202 Not same class. WK/WH can actually do offroading with it's Quadra Drive 2, unlike x5, so x5 is kinda more onroad soccermom vehicle 🤷♂️ And how much did they cost back in the day brand new, if you compare best trim lvl of each vehicle? Just because they're similar in size and shape (x5 doesn't look as good tho...) and are considered "SUV's" doesn't mean they're actually competitors in the same class of car, because let's face it... if you want something that'll get you from home to grocerystore or soccer practice and costs more to buy, maintain and repair AND you don't mind getting stuck everywhere where tarmac ends, you get x5. If you want something more capable, you get WK/WH 😅 Naturally if you're from UK, you don't want a Jeep, because we all know brits are biased, which shows in this video (making it not very professional and absolutely irrelevant opinion).
But yeah, that being said you are correct. X and X, in this case x5 and Jeep should be compared. It's just not very fair, because of how lacking x5 is when compared.
I own one myself, a 2006 with the 3.7l V6. Mine is even lifted with bigger tires and it drives smooth. I don't understand why he's complaining so much though? He's compairing two different spectrums. Luxury (BMW) vs Offroader (Jeep). Its kinda obvious the Offroader is gonna be rougher riding
My knee is touching the console...then move your seat back !!!, ....wenka...!!!...lmao....
In America we would have NEVER compared these two because they're not comparable at all
But in Britain they would, because they do so enjoy hating on yank tanks.
@@dkmorris713 lol they sure do, hell we barley like our cars anymore
Yes, they are comparable. They are two similarly sized SUVs. It's that simple.
@@FROOB202 Well a Mercedes E-Class is the same size as a Chevy Impala but I don't think we are going to compare them against each other.... Soooo yeah🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@95blahblahhaha Why? You people are really baffling. If you had your way there would be almost no car content on TH-cam because of your pointless stringent conditions which must be met before a comparison is acceptable. You can compare anything you want.
Lol
Commenting over a 16 year old video.
Fifth gear and we are still stuck in 2005.😂
these throwback videos are great to watch in lockdown
Well I mean the Grand Cherokee is on the Previous Mercedes ML Platform tho
the bmw x5 e53 is literally from 1999, whilst the cherokee is from 2005. whole generation apart.
that’s the WK2 gc
At least you can drive it after it's rained unlike the X5 ! I'd still choose the Jeep over the BMW
I have a grand cherokee 5.7 hemi and a 04 x5 4.4i e53 and I like the interior of the x5 a lot more than the jeep, you feel like you have room to move in the bmw and I feel like I'm boxed in, in the grand cherokee.
2005 Grand Cherokee owner here. Mine is still going strong at 177,000 miles. I take it off road and daily drive it. It's fabulous if you want a vehicle that is capable off road and on and won't break the bank to buy or maintain. WK Jeep love!
hello from Russia, 2005 wh 4.7, almost 500.000km, the best car i ever had
@@user-eh8xj1mv7z 2005 4.7 in California! Hello and cheers!
LOL @ thinking Jeeps of that era were supposed to be compared to BMWs!
The jeeps are still running, the X5's were scrapped long ago
@@unclejoe6811 There's 117 2000-2006 X5s available on Autotrader. There are 18 1999-2005 Grand Cherokees available.
@@FROOB202 This tells you nothing. Completely pointless comparison! When I bought my Audi A6 most for sale had the 2.4 V6. 1.9TDI was harder to find. That’s probably because people don’t have need to sell a good car and 2.4 V6 was more popular back in the day.
@@FROOB202 Less Grand Cherokees available on sale because people drive them. And when they actually sell the Jeeps, they're sold very quickly, which is also why there aren't many listings. The demand is greater than the supply on these old WJs and WKs, unlike the X5s. Nobody wants the BMW. They are listed forever and never sold.
@@mikojarvinen6273 exactly every time a good jeep pops up it’s gone I could’ve grabbed any X5 of the same year multiple times over as long as they sit not worth the cost to repair and definitely don’t last as long maybe the folks who owned them prior don’t or can’t take care of them but I’ll take my jeep
My Mate has a X5 BMW - always a problem - my 2008 WH Grand Cherokee bought 2nd hand in 2014 a diesel - a gem off road and will pull down a block of flats if asked - great ride in Australia !!
thats weird most grand cherokee owners think thats the best looking of the line
My ex had a new x5 when I met her. I accidently rolled it twice while trying to climb a hill that she didn't want me to play on in the first place. Definitely didn't earn me any points with her parents 😂🇺🇲
I have a 2020 Grand Cherokee Summit 5.7 with all the options including the signature stitched leather interior and I gotta say Jeep has improved on everything he was bashing and hating on. He should give them another look.
Grand cherokee rules!!!
I assume the build quality of these WKs varies from regions? Had a 2010 model with the Hemi and tow package, front end looked like it was gonna collapse and didn't have nearly that much gap at 0:51 between the wheel and the fender.
BMW=bring my wallet
São duas das SUV's que teria fácil na garagem, v8 é vida 😁
Lol jeep was made more into offroad have offroad gears,reductor and best Quadradrive ii AWD system so,WTF GUYS
He's brit... 100% biased and hates all things "american" 😅 Nitpicks about stuff that aren't there (like his poor little knee hitting something that nobody is actually hitting) and doesn't even understand how much, and by "much" I mean absolutely staggering amounts of "much", more capable WK/WH Jeep is than x5. x5 is for soccer moms who just need to have BMW logo on their vehicle and drive tarmac 😆
The video producer is great one
If it doesn't handle like a sports car Jason doesn't understand or like
One blokes opinion and I doubt I'd talk to him if I see him out ...
What about driving the BMW X5 in the video?
That bit about the knee, oh so true. People bought this piece of crack in droves. It's a truck that drives like a truck and people just doubled down.... priceless. Same goes for the pick up truck craze. I rented a 2020 F-250 to tow a trailer. What an useless piece of crack! I'm 6'2 and I still needed a ladder to get in this thing. The wheels felt like they were attached by rubber bands, carnival ride. Traction in the rain? Non existent! For chucks, I went grocery shopping. Can't fit in a parking spot, groceries? only in the backseat, and you need a ladder to reach. People look hilarious reaching in and struggling trying to fit groceries in the backseat. Joke.
But wait! Towing? That truck is the Balls! Bar none! Too bad I've only needed to trailer once in the last 20 years. I did a 500 mile trip, it sucked and I was a hurting unit. But, boy, can it tow.
I own one rn, just a V6 sport. However I feel as tho it’s probably a lot better for roads than whatever he’s driving. The turning is smooth but it’s not as springy, the front is lower than the back so the seating feels correct. The plastic? I mean, i don’t ever touch it besides to call her a amazing
I guess I’m a “manly” woman because I love going off road with my 2000 jeep grand Cherokee WJ
JEEP is pissing all over BMW then and now!
Th X5 is a superb car but the ride isn't great at all, hence why it handles so well. Ours broke and cost quite a bit over the years. The diesels were brilliant but the .46 and 4.8 all blew their valve stem seals and seats, and gaskets, and other stuff. Never driven a WK but the interior does look cack on the base models. Owned a ZJ and loved that despite it being a bit dated.
If produce attached cross river inflatable accessory for jeep then make it a legend
- Å fan!
England has always been cross with the US since they copied the Jeep Wagoneer and made the Range Rover, they couldn't even design their own engine for it.
Tho they did make one thing better with their Land Rovers... they made them superior in being less reliable and less capable 😆
It wasn't launched in 1996 it was in 93
It's 2021 people..
Technically, the X5 is a SAV not SUV. Well.. that’s how BMW markets it as.
BMW❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Unreliable shit box lol
@rich1223 Proof it with facts my friend. You don't know anything about BMW'S. I am driving BMW'S all my life and I did not have any problems.
@@andrewlamprecht7023 My 2010 Hemi will trounce that Bring My Wallet Shit box lol
Jason considered the Jeep as a luxury brand and the Grand Cherokee as a luxury 4x4? Ppppellease! 🤦♂️
He's brit... give him some slack, he doesn't know what he's talking about (which is pretty clear from this clip) 😆
Like the mentioned at start.. Jeeps are for real... If you didn't like, guess what!
Dumb comment: He wants a Street car, but has two Suv to compare… this is like he wants a penguin(Street car), but uses a Sea gull(BMW) and a shark(Jeep)… like wtf when you want a Road car, why even talking bad about a Offroad car? Doesnt make sense, yes it is bullshit on road, because its not a freakin Lamborghini my boi. The X5 is like a car that is not good at anything, huge but no luggage space, slow and cheap quality, this car is not made for highways, and as soon as one wheel is contacting a piece of grass it doesnt go anywhere due to traction loss. Jeep tho is like death (wobble) on highways,leans like a roller coaster in turns and really bounces around with its soft suspension, but o damn does this boi go trough the woods, throw at it whatever you want, it will somehow do it.
You realize it Grand Cherokee is a good vehicle it was built on a truck style frame anyway so will you expect
No it wasn't, it's a Mercedes W164 unibody chassis.
This review didn’t age well at all. Today the same Jeep proved to have aged way better than the x5
Whingeing POM
why all jeep have little crappy skinny tyres lol
BMW👿🚀
Jeep is less junk than the M5.
what?
What did u even try to express with this sentence...
Hmm ok that makes sense
10 year old video?
to be fair both the bmw and the jeep are both total garbage.
I used to give an advantage in this category of Jeep vehicle without thinking, but since the Fiat bought it, I've had a good look at it. Everything's mixed up in the last decade...
Gay folks are very sensitive and very funny 😁😆🤣