UPDATE: The loud highway noise is gone! Turns out it was a bad bearing that I'd had since I bought the Jeep. It's gone now, and the Jeep is nice and quiet on the highway.
Hey dude could you tell me where that wooden crossing is (at 0:23)? I'd love to go there if I could figure out where it's at lol. I've been looking into the wk's and as you say they're about the best value for a 4 door off-roader to haul friends and family and gear. Thanks!
Just bought a 2005 Limited 4x4 with the hemi, absolutely decked out with all the options. Navigation, rear entertainment, heated seats/mirrors, leather, adjustable pedals, etc.... It is in excellent shape, minus a dented rear bumper from last owner backing up to a trailer incorrectly. Picked it up for $4,000 cash private party. Your video helped alot in my decision, and the price was just unbeatable.
I own a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 3.0 Diesel engine and this thing is a beast! Can't say enough great things about it. I use it for off-roading, highway and I tow a very trailer for work. I am keeping this Jeep for many many years to come.
I have a 2003 GC Overland (WJ). While on a Jeep Jamboree, I had to take one of my fellow Jeepers to the auto parts store to get something for his CJ7. He was shocked at how well it rode - "This rides better than my mom's Cadillac!" Yet I did as well or better than all of the Wranglers on our trail. And I was on half-worn all-season tires.
The WJs are fantastic - they have the front flex that I lack! I've never actually been in any Wrangler ever, but I've heard they're not as comfortable on the road.
Yeah, I feel WJ's sit right in between off-road capable and on road handling, maybe a little more towards off-roading. Coil springs all around make them ride really nice compared to older jeeps but the front axle gives them more articulation than WK's. Plus, overland trims come with vari-lok differentials, that alone makes all the difference on the trails.
I have an ‘07 JGC with 3.0 diesel. I put a 2” OME lift; 265/70r17 AT tires, Goliath skid plates, JCR rock sliders, CB Engineering parts (EGR/DPF deletes and other engine parts - Great website and service!) and a green diesel engineering turner. I am getting ready for a move out west (AZ/NV) and this will be my off roading vehicles - cannot wait!! Just completed a drive from Maryland to Arizona and then back, 3 days travel each way - side trip to Las Vegas. Jeep was fantastic on the road even with the lift and bigger tires. Got between 22-25 mpg depending how heavy my right foot was....
@@cokabs I...think you're asking me how it drives "on the road"? If-so, well...pretty-great, other than the front end wanders a bit, even though I have replaced most all of the steering components, shocks etc.
I got my '08 a couple of years ago. Solid as a rock. Makes short work of big snow and laughs at sloppy roads. The Hemi is a bonus but can be thirsty in town. The Overland package is also a nice addition. They can be had for short money these days. Good value for a world-class SUV.
I had a 06 Wk for a few years with the 4.7 and qt2 system. Loved it. I’m sure you know, 4xguard is a great company that makes good products for the wk platform. Between the skids, Rick sliders I’d suggest their modular front bumper. It was by far a great purchase. They also make some disconnects for the front. I want to say Rusty’s off-road makes a adjustable trac bar for the rear and adjustable rear control arms. Not to mention if you had the qt2 I think the 10 bolt rear arb makes a diff cover. And Gobi make a rack. So much potential for these models, I’m actually in the market and will find another one day.
Revere Overland I agree! I fitted mine pretty well, just need to wheel mine mores as you do. If you're interested, check out my channel and we can talk more WKs!
My Jeep Story, I've watched a few of your videos to help out with things like oil changes - trying to change the filter without getting oil everywhere!
what LSD , WK comes with QT2 or QD2 , QT2 is brake based traction control with open diffs. and QD2 have 3 e lockers works without any braking just diffs. but thats not LSD . it doesnt need flex when it has good traction control it stops wheel thats in air no prob, even better with QD2. hemi is drinker. CRD will have same torque on low revs but will use half diesel.
scal man my 2010 WK Hemi (160k miles) gets 19mpg with Dobinsons full lift & 32 inch tires. I have no added weight like steel bumpers and rock sliders so that helps. You are right the QD2 is perfect. I had it stock the first year with stock highway tires and still didnt get stuck and with the 4 wheels powered, I got up some steep climbs in 4 lo. Now that its lifted with better tires , I hardly even need to shift 4 lo. The WK is also narrow so fits in tight trails and the wheelbase is also short. These things are awesome.
Great video and perfect talking points, I just spent $22,000 on a 2015 JKU Wrangler for overlanding, making payments and dragging through the woods is a tuff call, lol
I feel you with the ZJ being rough on the road. When I got my 98 it wandered all over the road like a lost child. I replaced literally everything that connected the axles to the frame and got an alignment and custom made stiffer springs, so it's perfectly manageable now. I routinely do 4.5 hour drives to visit family and have no problems.
@@RevereOverland My 96 ZJ was just fine on the road, and so is my 98 ZJ. Its all in how to care for them, and keep up with maintenance....the road issues really get bad when you do lifts and oversized heavier tires. My 96 ZJ was offroad far more than it was onroad, I was amazed where the quadra-trac 4WD system would take me without any limited slip or lockers. It had 232k on it when I sold it and its still running around...my 98 ZJ I currently have has selec-trac 4WD and limited slip rear and does just fine and has 157K on it.
I know your comment is old but I can say that he went with a WK once upon a time because he couldn't find a 4runner cheap enough. It's a bargain to buy but a money pit to keep running long run
You would have thought that the V6 would be better on gas. The extra power in the hemi is definitely nice - when towing my trailer I don't even know it's there.
If you live in the UK and run a HEMI version of the WK, the smart thing to do was to get it LPG converted. You then get double the range and the running cost of a VW Beetle, I did that in 2014.
Pretty much for all the same reasons that’s why I went with a 2001 grand Cherokee, WJ. So far I’m pretty happy with it and help with the capability but the gas mileage does suck but it is also a vehicle I’ve chosen just for wheeling. Taking it out again this weekend.
Yeah I run into the same problems the aftermarket stuff costs twice as much. But when you're saving $20,000 on the vehicle...no big deal... I just have to accept that I'm still cheaper overall.
You can get a 10 year old grand Cherokee for around $5k in great shape that’s fully off road capable stock. Also, a Jeep commander. Add a mild lift and larger tires for $1k and it looks trick.
Even though my WK (Rocky) isn't QD2, she still is pretty neat and overland-capabale to me :) In terms of reliability, her 3.7l V6 engine has a pretty good reputation of being very reliable, even though her transfer case has no 4 low and no clutch properties (NV140), it's a much more tinier TC and is simpler design than the NV245 and therefore more maintenance free and easier to repair. Rocky has no lift so far so her suspension angles are fine, no oversized tires so her brakes aren't wearing out too quick or malfunctioning from all the momentum and beefier rubber inhibiting proper stopping distance, and the NAG1 Mercedes Transmission is amazing with very silent operation and very smooth shifting. Nice to see you don't regret your choice of having a WK :) It truly has potential as an overland-capable platform
You're right about the transmission - it shifts nicer than my 2017 Mazda! I still have the budget boost sitting in my garage, but I can't bring myself to sell it or even give it away. I feel as though it ruins the ride, and don't wish that on anyone!
Revere Overland I don't really care about ride quality so long as it's not too bouncy 😅. When are you going to be doing that raffle or contest btw for that 2 inch lift? :) Just curious lol. And I noticed in some of the pics of your video the OME lift. How's the difference in ride quality? Minor or major?
I can send it, but it's not good. It should fit in a flat rate box. The OME is so much better than the budget boost. The budget boost gave me a lot of lateral shake both front and rear, which affected the steering. I replaced the front with OME first, which made it better, but the lateral shake didn't go away until I did the rear too.
Revere Overland Oh my gosh, that would be so awesome!! ^__^ That would literally mean so much to me and I would give you a HUGE shoutout on my channel if that could happen!!! :D I've been trying to get a lift sponsored but with little luck. I was close earlier this year, but couldn't follow up with it because of my college schedule :(
I know this is an old video, but you might want to replace the bushings at the rear of the lower control arm. In the suspension clip it looks like you have way too much movement there.
Has a lifted 93 with 31" mudders i used as a daily loved it off road on road ton of fun my 06wk limited 4.7 v8 great daily drive mini van action without the ugh never no not me looks i can do anywhere in any weather safely 100k Miles for 6k no big ticket issues just general irritating issues. And i have it loaded 1 owner paid 39k in o6 for their package and color paid out right cash no payments
I got a long (10-12K) trip planned in spring. Route 66 to NM to Co, Utah, Ca, Or, Wa, Mt, Wy, Sd, and then back home... We should meet in Colorado! Driven 6k in that state in last 3 yrs.... Know it very very well! I gotta get back on FB and get with ya... Will do soon!
Dang that's a long route! I was looking at taking Rt 66 and exploring AZ and UT next year. There are a bunch of great places to explore out there. I definitely need to hit you up!
Everything you’ve said is also true about the XK Commander. I like the look a bit better as well as the extra cargo space. Gas mileage much like yourself, is also killing me.
I looked for a Commander as an alternative, but there weren't many around. I don't like the Commanders stock, but I think they look great when lifted with some bigger tires!
Revere Overland I feel the same way, that sunk in front end is torturing me. It took me a while to find the perfect XK. I’m considering doing a build series on it, as it is basically stock. I feel like it’s the true modern successor to the XJ, about $1,500 is all it takes to make it extremely capable. Essentially, it is still the same as your WK.
No i just got the v8 4.7l. I towed a uhaul trailer with it loaded with furniture and tools and i could barely even notice i was pullin something. Other than the hitch clatter.
Lol good little video... you made a good choice my man! WK for life, next time reach for the 4.7 I got. Get a V8 and can tow, but doesnt eat that hemi fuel. After 410 gear swap I did, it has loads of torque I dont ever tap into.
They got VERY few CRD WK in America. Good news is they had true electric locking front and rear diffs. Altho I will NEVER downplay how well break locking has worked on my Jeep. Bone stock I ran no less then 15MPG in city and often almost reached 21 on the highway. That is Northwest Driving!!! I once towed a enclosed double axle Uhaul smashed full basically uphill for 5hrs. I pulled into destination at 18.7MPG!!!!! tow'haul at 55MPH ofcourse. Blew my mind. Since I have went up to 31" tires, thrown some real stupid amount of weight in armor on the vehicle I could feel the strain on the little V8. I swapped out for 410 gearz, the only option we have for our setup. Brought back loads of power under 55MPH, but the lack luster HP rating on 4.7L leaves it wanting some more passing power on the highway with my setup. I run down the road at ~1900 around 60 with 410's and 31" tires. I get highway 18 if I am lucky anymore. Town is over 13 never touchin 15. I run the programmer tho that holds shifts longer to keep from lugging my older motor. In all conditions my Jeep likes to simply hold a gear for 500-1000 more RPM then stock depending on the gear. ITs a much better shift pattern and also boosts the Tranny pressure so it always a nice firm shift not slipping discs. Down side is our tranny has a baby pressure plate on the valving. A must replace on a Jeep at 50,000 or more miles if your gonna boost the tranny pressure daily driving. I cant be happier with my Jeep, I run this thing hard and put it away wet and its still kicking. For a few options you prob know already. JBA, Rocky-Road are some great places to pickup much needed gear to get shit down with a WK. Lots of tricks to gain clearance/cheap small lifts and your quickly on your way to 31" tires. Super lift 4" is your only choice to go big. Cheapest its been sold in 8yrs is $1900. I believe to this date they are nearly $2100 as the market picks up on WK they wont be lowering the price lol. JBA and UTube can show you our Jeep at 6-8" clearing 35's long armed in the rear wheeling like champions!!!! The WK is a rich mans build for sure, but when my friends make fun of my minivan or over priced build. I ask them if they need to borrow my cabin for a little bit while we are snow wheeling for the comfort they are missing in their lives.
I have the locking diffs and they're amazing. Sounds as though you do pretty good with gas mileage. Some good advice too - I'll probably be sticking with the Old Man Emu lift, but I definitely need to look at new UCAs. I might add a small spacer to the isolators at some point.
The '07 I've been told is cheaper to repair. Mine's an '06 and the alternator was expensive at $1800 fitted but on the upside it doesn't have the DPF which is lucky cause I don't drive much. Car has 67k miles.
That’s not true. It uses an electronic clutch pack in the front and rear differential that engage automatically when the wheels slip, then disengage seconds later. It’s not the same as the lockers you would find in a Wrangler, although it has a similar end result. You also don’t need to be in 4lo for it to work.
I also look for the next Overland vehicle and came to the same conclusions. What you get for the price is pretty good. Here in Europe it's called WH not WK, is available with a diesel engine and they're built in Austria by the same plant which build the Mercedes G wagons.
You can actually get the diesel engine here too. They're very rare. I tried to find one for the right price, but it wasn't happening! Do they come with a manual/stick shift option in Europe?
Pretty much all Autos here in the UK. I don't think there were any WK/WHs in the UK in manual. You got a pretty weird accent- I hear a lot of Brit and maybe a bit Saffa mixed in with the American drawl. I can't place it...? Very interesting.. Another point I keep hearing is that the European made Chryslers/Jeeps made in Austria are much better built. Yes we have the same cheap and nasty plastic interiors but don't really suffer reliability issues. Except the front suspenion knock on my 300C........
I moved from Norfolk (UK) to Kentucky 8 years ago, which will explain the accent! My biggest concern with Chrysler would be with the electronics, which I would assume would come from the same source as American made?
Revere Overland Not sure. I've not heard of electronic issues over here on Chrysler or Jeeps so maybe they are different? Or made in Austria from scratch. Narfarrk eh? Yeah, that'll explain it! Not much different to Kentucky really! ;) Envious!
The thing that scares me about that 5.7l Hemi is that cam failure thing that has been happening. I can't find how common or uncommon the issue is but I do see a lot of posts about the problem in all sorts of Dodge and Jeep products.
drarbo1 Hemi Tick is real. But I guess not so common that they had to recall...maybe buy an extended warranty. I would. I would trust the 5.7 far and away over the 4.7 POS.
Look into some engine fail years back that was reported, and basically the active cylinder delete was some how related to shut off when the engine was run hard and hot and shut off abruptly. Such a scenario would be if you were driving freeway speeds and pulled into for fuel and shut off without letting idle for a minute or too. Did not make sense at the time either. Top end lubrication maybe? Look there.
I have a 2009 wk limited and have just started to build it for off road but have run into an issue. I have a “Service 4wd System” light that came on and now I can’t put it into 4lo. Have you ever had that issue or know of anyone that has? Love the vehicle but this has me stumped! Love the videos by the way, keep them coming!
That sucks, but it's not uncommon. I've heard of people pulling the fuse for the system (#33), starting the engine and driving, then putting it back in with the engine still running. Apparently when you restart it'll be fixed. I know there was also a couple of Technical Service Bulletins (21-022-14 is the most recent I found - static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2014/SB-10069322-0335.pdf) on it that the Jeep dealership can do. Just don't let them replace anything, it's not necessary!
Revere Overland Thanks for the reply. I tried the fuse thing several times and it didn’t work. I tried to open the service bulletin but it wouldn’t open. Thanks for the help , if you run across any solutions please let me know. Thanks again!
Revere Overland Thanks for the help! I was able to get it open. Besides rock rails and tires what other mods have you done to your WK, and additional armor?
I've had mine for 66k miles and has had the "service 4wd system" since day one. I had already read about it so when I test drove it I checked if the 4lo engaged, it did, so I bought it. Traction control also works flawlessly, and I maintain the diffs, transfer case, and transmission myself so I know its neither of those things. Just an annoying service light I guess
too bad you removed the WK from your website… My Diesel WK is like a freight train on the road. Lack of aftermarket bumpers, skid plates, etc.. But when you engage 4LO, again, a freight train….
Did you upgrade your roof rack to install the roof top tent? Or are you on factory rails and cross bars? I have a 07 limited hemi and looking to do the rtt
I put Thule crossbars on. Honestly, I wasn’t completely happy with the large tent up there still. It overhung the windshield too much, so was buffeted. The smaller ones might be better.
@@RevereOverland Thanks for getting back, not much info online for rtt install on the wk's. I was looking into the smaller smittybuilt 2-3 person tent for the roof. What tent were you running up top?
It’s the Smittybilt XL on mine. I have a video review on it. The smaller one might be ok. Unfortunately the WK roof isn’t ideal for RTTs since it’s short, and relatively weak.
@@RevereOverland Oh, cool. I'll go checkout your vid. I was looking into the rocky road roof rack system as an upgrade option. From what ive learned ill probably will end up going with it. I ended up with a wk for the same reason you did, great price, and i love mine. Eventually looking to build a sprinter van, but i figured the roof tent is a good way to get my feet wet with over landing
Why didn’t you like your older cherokee on the highway? I have been looking at older cherokees and 4runners. I have about $8k to spend and have been thinking of getting a vehicle for $4k and putting $4k worth of after market stuff into it. -Braxton
They just don't behave as well on the roads - it requires more effort and concentration when you have to correct the steering for every bump. The XJs and ZJs are also very small vehicles, and I've seen how you and Brandon pack!! Another great thing about these is that they require very little work - you can pick them up for
They aren't bad on the highway at all, the trouble is people bash on them lift them put huge tires on them and wonder why they wander all over the road after they spent a day bashing it through rocks, mud, etc...knocking the thing out of alignment which causes them to wander all over the road. My 96 ZJ did fine and my current 98 ZJ does just fine on the highway and extremely comfortable on the highway. They are solid axle trucks practically, so they handle as such, and if you aren't used to driving anything more than a compact to mid-size car on the highway these types of vehicles of course handle different because they ride higher, they're larger, wider, taller, so they are effected by several things, side winds, passing big rigs, etc. Another common thing I see is people remove the sway bars in the front and rear because they want more axle articulation, but what they don't realize is it also causes different on-highway manners by removing the sway bars now when you get into a tight turn at higher speeds you feel very unsafe where having the sway bars actually helps keep the vehicle more stable in higher speed maneuvers....best route is sway bar disconnects to keep them in place for those highway trips, but disconnecting them when you wanna go play on the trails...something many vehicles aren't really able to do in stock form, something that the XJ, ZJ, WJ, and WK's are/were great for, take the family to school, work, home, sports, etc. all week, hit the trails on the weekend.
I love the LC100/LX470. For financing something less than 10 years old has a much lower interest rate, and they're at least twice the price of the WK of a similar age.
I’ve been researching on line the difference between the overland and a std model , I read that they are approx 2 inch higher I’m curious how this is achieved if not suspension, if you fit a OME 2inch lift that is aimed at all Grand Cherokee’s , I would have Thought fitting it to a overland you wouldn’t achieve any lift ……or am I missing something in my research .
I had hemi 5.7 2005 with quadra drive ii its very powerful on offroading . Watch out there is a space were water can leak into the gearbox it happened to me while i was on very tough snow offroading. Had to replace the gearbox dont know if newer models they fixed this silly issue or not.
I've heard about people doing it, but it seems like a waste of time to me. The system is incredibly effective as it is, and there's almost no wheel spin before it engages.
I went with the JCR Offroad sliders for $409. They mount under the vehicle, losing some ground clearance. Sometimes I wish I'd gone with the Crawl Offroad sliders for $699 - they replace the rocker panel so you don't lose any clearance.
JCR and RRO look pretty much the same. RRO are more, but they come coated. I went uncoated and just hit it with a bedliner can to touch it up. Mine have taken a beating, and have zero issues. One complaint I read about RRO is that it takes a long time to get them delivered. Mine took 9 weeks from ordering from JCR though!
From what I’ve been reading there is no fix... if anyone knows of a fix, PLEASED queue me in! I’ve changed the O2 sensors and had the exhaust manifold gaskets replaced. $$$
Just picked up my 5.7 L hemi limited edition ( with electronic lockers ).. Paid only $5k... has 100,000 miles even! fucking gorgeous... However, this cheap, I am currently replacing the front differential bushings and rebuilding the front driveshaft... still a good deal.. That highway drone at 70mph was a little concerning at first. I hope these repair will limit some of that noise!
Nice! That's a great price. I bet replacing some of the parts will help with the noise - I think I have a bearing going bad somewhere that's making it loud on the highway at the moment.
Not at all. $8,000 can get you a ton of off road capable vehicles, including an 80 series Land Cruiser, Nissan XTerra, 4Runner, Tacoma, Tundra, Land Rover LR3, Wrangler TJ, etc. I looked into all of the options and chose this over each of them.
Revere Overland same here I was looking at 4th gen 4runners, Land Rovers ,and xterras. 4 runner and xterra has the size and capability, land rover has the interior and looks, the WK has all that and with a hemi, much more value for the same price. I was able to find a 2010 limited with 100k miles. It is unbelievable the 4 runners were priced the same except they had 190k miles and shitty interior with weak engine, what a joke! Lol the Jeep has been solid for the 66k miles I've had it. Maintainance is simple and gets 19 mpg. The mountains have manage to dent my fender, crack my lights and bent my radiator but all that can be easily fixed Lol
thats what I was thinking.... make up your mind... UK accent or US accent.... one or the other, don't do both! :). Strange accent aside, great review and I love that Jeep!
@@ellomot0 well technically when america was colonized nobody really had today’s traditional british accent, the english language was just so much different
UPDATE: The loud highway noise is gone! Turns out it was a bad bearing that I'd had since I bought the Jeep. It's gone now, and the Jeep is nice and quiet on the highway.
Revere Overland Which bearing? In the rear diff or..? Also was the noise louder when accelerating and disappears when letting off the gas pedal?
On the front driveshaft. It had to be rebuilt.
Thanks!
Hey dude could you tell me where that wooden crossing is (at 0:23)? I'd love to go there if I could figure out where it's at lol. I've been looking into the wk's and as you say they're about the best value for a 4 door off-roader to haul friends and family and gear.
Thanks!
Hi there! I'm a range rover fan but I want something more reliable! Do u know anything about a 2003 4.7L
Just bought a 2005 Limited 4x4 with the hemi, absolutely decked out with all the options. Navigation, rear entertainment, heated seats/mirrors, leather, adjustable pedals, etc.... It is in excellent shape, minus a dented rear bumper from last owner backing up to a trailer incorrectly. Picked it up for $4,000 cash private party.
Your video helped alot in my decision, and the price was just unbeatable.
Great! Enjoy it!
I own a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 3.0 Diesel engine and this thing is a beast! Can't say enough great things about it. I use it for off-roading, highway and I tow a very trailer for work. I am keeping this Jeep for many many years to come.
I just got an 05 limited WK with only 62,000 miles on it for $9K fully loaded back in April, I’ve been loving it since I got it
I.have watched this video a few times. I enjoy you sharing your point of view and think you did a great job with the video.
I have a 2003 GC Overland (WJ). While on a Jeep Jamboree, I had to take one of my fellow Jeepers to the auto parts store to get something for his CJ7. He was shocked at how well it rode - "This rides better than my mom's Cadillac!" Yet I did as well or better than all of the Wranglers on our trail. And I was on half-worn all-season tires.
The WJs are fantastic - they have the front flex that I lack! I've never actually been in any Wrangler ever, but I've heard they're not as comfortable on the road.
Yep the Grand Cherokees ride great considering they're an SUV and are quite offroad capable.
Yeah, I feel WJ's sit right in between off-road capable and on road handling, maybe a little more towards off-roading. Coil springs all around make them ride really nice compared to older jeeps but the front axle gives them more articulation than WK's. Plus, overland trims come with vari-lok differentials, that alone makes all the difference on the trails.
Totally agree with your points man. I have a green WK and it's a lot of value for the money!
I have the 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel and I absolutely love it lots of power very good fuel mileage
I have an ‘07 JGC with 3.0 diesel. I put a 2” OME lift; 265/70r17 AT tires, Goliath skid plates, JCR rock sliders, CB Engineering parts (EGR/DPF deletes and other engine parts - Great website and service!) and a green diesel engineering turner. I am getting ready for a move out west (AZ/NV) and this will be my off roading vehicles - cannot wait!! Just completed a drive from Maryland to Arizona and then back, 3 days travel each way - side trip to Las Vegas. Jeep was fantastic on the road even with the lift and bigger tires. Got between 22-25 mpg depending how heavy my right foot was....
I have a 2006 GC Limited. I have the same lift as you. I'm still working on my wheel/tire setup but I absolutely love it!
Seeing this video just reaffirms my choice in getting a WJ. I used to drive a friend's WK, and that definitely influenced me to go the other way.
How it's drive in the road dude? Thanks.
@@cokabs I...think you're asking me how it drives "on the road"?
If-so, well...pretty-great, other than the front end wanders a bit, even though I have replaced most all of the steering components, shocks etc.
I got my '08 a couple of years ago. Solid as a rock. Makes short work of big snow and laughs at sloppy roads. The Hemi is a bonus but can be thirsty in town. The Overland package is also a nice addition. They can be had for short money these days. Good value for a world-class SUV.
Nice pick up mate! Love my 07 jgc laredo! 181K freeway miles no rust bone stock. You treat her good she’s will treat u awesome 😎
I had a 06 Wk for a few years with the 4.7 and qt2 system. Loved it. I’m sure you know, 4xguard is a great company that makes good products for the wk platform. Between the skids, Rick sliders I’d suggest their modular front bumper. It was by far a great purchase. They also make some disconnects for the front. I want to say Rusty’s off-road makes a adjustable trac bar for the rear and adjustable rear control arms. Not to mention if you had the qt2 I think the 10 bolt rear arb makes a diff cover. And Gobi make a rack. So much potential for these models, I’m actually in the market and will find another one day.
Are the disconnects worth it? Do you gain much more suspension drop?
I have a 2005 limited with the Hemingway and QD2 I couldn't agree with you more these are very capable vehicles
Yeah it always surprises people!
That one's mine and I can't wait to take her to Moab
Nice channel, man! Good to see someone else wheel their WK.
Thanks! I think they're the most underrated off road vehicle!
Revere Overland I agree! I fitted mine pretty well, just need to wheel mine mores as you do. If you're interested, check out my channel and we can talk more WKs!
Def agree! I have one as well and i love it! Its all stock at the moment but def love it.
My Jeep Story, I've watched a few of your videos to help out with things like oil changes - trying to change the filter without getting oil everywhere!
Revere Overland thanks for watching, hope the videos helped a little!
I have been amazed by the capability of the WK with lsd!
That's the main reason I chose it!
what LSD , WK comes with QT2 or QD2 , QT2 is brake based traction control with open diffs. and QD2 have 3 e lockers works without any braking just diffs. but thats not LSD . it doesnt need flex when it has good traction control it stops wheel thats in air no prob, even better with QD2. hemi is drinker. CRD will have same torque on low revs but will use half diesel.
scal man my 2010 WK Hemi (160k miles) gets 19mpg with Dobinsons full lift & 32 inch tires. I have no added weight like steel bumpers and rock sliders so that helps. You are right the QD2 is perfect. I had it stock the first year with stock highway tires and still didnt get stuck and with the 4 wheels powered, I got up some steep climbs in 4 lo. Now that its lifted with better tires , I hardly even need to shift 4 lo. The WK is also narrow so fits in tight trails and the wheelbase is also short. These things are awesome.
Great video and perfect talking points, I just spent $22,000 on a 2015 JKU Wrangler for overlanding, making payments and dragging through the woods is a tuff call, lol
I feel you with the ZJ being rough on the road. When I got my 98 it wandered all over the road like a lost child. I replaced literally everything that connected the axles to the frame and got an alignment and custom made stiffer springs, so it's perfectly manageable now. I routinely do 4.5 hour drives to visit family and have no problems.
Jeremy's 98 ZJ is actually pretty nice on the road. My ZJ just had too much wrong with it!
@@RevereOverland My 96 ZJ was just fine on the road, and so is my 98 ZJ. Its all in how to care for them, and keep up with maintenance....the road issues really get bad when you do lifts and oversized heavier tires. My 96 ZJ was offroad far more than it was onroad, I was amazed where the quadra-trac 4WD system would take me without any limited slip or lockers. It had 232k on it when I sold it and its still running around...my 98 ZJ I currently have has selec-trac 4WD and limited slip rear and does just fine and has 157K on it.
I still miss seeing this Jeep in your newer videos. Nothing wrong with the 4runner but the WK was unique and is a bargain for an overlander.
I know your comment is old but I can say that he went with a WK once upon a time because he couldn't find a 4runner cheap enough. It's a bargain to buy but a money pit to keep running long run
The Quadra drive with the limited slip is 👍
I have a v6 WK and my gas milage is the same so considering the extra power...you are a lot better off than me...
You would have thought that the V6 would be better on gas. The extra power in the hemi is definitely nice - when towing my trailer I don't even know it's there.
I have a 2009 Grand Cherokee Limited and I considering adding some mods for offroading. You made the right choice man.
If you live in the UK and run a HEMI version of the WK, the smart thing to do was to get it LPG converted. You then get double the range and the running cost of a VW Beetle, I did that in 2014.
Pretty much for all the same reasons that’s why I went with a 2001 grand Cherokee, WJ. So far I’m pretty happy with it and help with the capability but the gas mileage does suck but it is also a vehicle I’ve chosen just for wheeling. Taking it out again this weekend.
Yeah I run into the same problems the aftermarket stuff costs twice as much. But when you're saving $20,000 on the vehicle...no big deal... I just have to accept that I'm still cheaper overall.
You can get a 10 year old grand Cherokee for around $5k in great shape that’s fully off road capable stock. Also, a Jeep commander. Add a mild lift and larger tires for $1k and it looks trick.
Even though my WK (Rocky) isn't QD2, she still is pretty neat and overland-capabale to me :) In terms of reliability, her 3.7l V6 engine has a pretty good reputation of being very reliable, even though her transfer case has no 4 low and no clutch properties (NV140), it's a much more tinier TC and is simpler design than the NV245 and therefore more maintenance free and easier to repair. Rocky has no lift so far so her suspension angles are fine, no oversized tires so her brakes aren't wearing out too quick or malfunctioning from all the momentum and beefier rubber inhibiting proper stopping distance, and the NAG1 Mercedes Transmission is amazing with very silent operation and very smooth shifting. Nice to see you don't regret your choice of having a WK :) It truly has potential as an overland-capable platform
You're right about the transmission - it shifts nicer than my 2017 Mazda! I still have the budget boost sitting in my garage, but I can't bring myself to sell it or even give it away. I feel as though it ruins the ride, and don't wish that on anyone!
Revere Overland Rocky could always use a 2 inch lift :3 Heehee
Revere Overland I don't really care about ride quality so long as it's not too bouncy 😅. When are you going to be doing that raffle or contest btw for that 2 inch lift? :) Just curious lol. And I noticed in some of the pics of your video the OME lift. How's the difference in ride quality? Minor or major?
I can send it, but it's not good. It should fit in a flat rate box. The OME is so much better than the budget boost. The budget boost gave me a lot of lateral shake both front and rear, which affected the steering. I replaced the front with OME first, which made it better, but the lateral shake didn't go away until I did the rear too.
Revere Overland Oh my gosh, that would be so awesome!! ^__^ That would literally mean so much to me and I would give you a HUGE shoutout on my channel if that could happen!!! :D I've been trying to get a lift sponsored but with little luck. I was close earlier this year, but couldn't follow up with it because of my college schedule :(
I know this is an old video, but you might want to replace the bushings at the rear of the lower control arm. In the suspension clip it looks like you have way too much movement there.
Well spotted that man.
Has a lifted 93 with 31" mudders i used as a daily loved it off road on road ton of fun my 06wk limited 4.7 v8 great daily drive mini van action without the ugh never no not me looks i can do anywhere in any weather safely 100k Miles for 6k no big ticket issues just general irritating issues. And i have it loaded 1 owner paid 39k in o6 for their package and color paid out right cash no payments
The drone might be bearings starting to wear. It can cause a lot of noise.
I got a long (10-12K) trip planned in spring. Route 66 to NM to Co, Utah, Ca, Or, Wa, Mt, Wy, Sd, and then back home... We should meet in Colorado! Driven 6k in that state in last 3 yrs.... Know it very very well! I gotta get back on FB and get with ya... Will do soon!
Dang that's a long route! I was looking at taking Rt 66 and exploring AZ and UT next year. There are a bunch of great places to explore out there. I definitely need to hit you up!
Everything you’ve said is also true about the XK Commander. I like the look a bit better as well as the extra cargo space. Gas mileage much like yourself, is also killing me.
I looked for a Commander as an alternative, but there weren't many around. I don't like the Commanders stock, but I think they look great when lifted with some bigger tires!
Revere Overland I feel the same way, that sunk in front end is torturing me. It took me a while to find the perfect XK. I’m considering doing a build series on it, as it is basically stock. I feel like it’s the true modern successor to the XJ, about $1,500 is all it takes to make it extremely capable. Essentially, it is still the same as your WK.
I look forward to seeing your progress with it!
Such an interesting accent! Morphing between English and southern American states. I would guess you moved to the states as a teenager?
Nice !!! There's more to life than Wranglers !
I love mine! Got a smokin deal on it paid cash 5g. Have had it a little over a year now. Nothin major wrong with it. And it was clean.
Great deal. Did you get the hemi?
No i just got the v8 4.7l. I towed a uhaul trailer with it loaded with furniture and tools and i could barely even notice i was pullin something. Other than the hitch clatter.
Lol good little video... you made a good choice my man! WK for life, next time reach for the 4.7 I got. Get a V8 and can tow, but doesnt eat that hemi fuel. After 410 gear swap I did, it has loads of torque I dont ever tap into.
What sort of mpg do you get? What I'd really like is the diesel!
They got VERY few CRD WK in America. Good news is they had true electric locking front and rear diffs. Altho I will NEVER downplay how well break locking has worked on my Jeep. Bone stock I ran no less then 15MPG in city and often almost reached 21 on the highway. That is Northwest Driving!!! I once towed a enclosed double axle Uhaul smashed full basically uphill for 5hrs. I pulled into destination at 18.7MPG!!!!! tow'haul at 55MPH ofcourse. Blew my mind. Since I have went up to 31" tires, thrown some real stupid amount of weight in armor on the vehicle I could feel the strain on the little V8. I swapped out for 410 gearz, the only option we have for our setup. Brought back loads of power under 55MPH, but the lack luster HP rating on 4.7L leaves it wanting some more passing power on the highway with my setup. I run down the road at ~1900 around 60 with 410's and 31" tires. I get highway 18 if I am lucky anymore. Town is over 13 never touchin 15. I run the programmer tho that holds shifts longer to keep from lugging my older motor. In all conditions my Jeep likes to simply hold a gear for 500-1000 more RPM then stock depending on the gear. ITs a much better shift pattern and also boosts the Tranny pressure so it always a nice firm shift not slipping discs. Down side is our tranny has a baby pressure plate on the valving. A must replace on a Jeep at 50,000 or more miles if your gonna boost the tranny pressure daily driving. I cant be happier with my Jeep, I run this thing hard and put it away wet and its still kicking. For a few options you prob know already. JBA, Rocky-Road are some great places to pickup much needed gear to get shit down with a WK. Lots of tricks to gain clearance/cheap small lifts and your quickly on your way to 31" tires. Super lift 4" is your only choice to go big. Cheapest its been sold in 8yrs is $1900. I believe to this date they are nearly $2100 as the market picks up on WK they wont be lowering the price lol. JBA and UTube can show you our Jeep at 6-8" clearing 35's long armed in the rear wheeling like champions!!!!
The WK is a rich mans build for sure, but when my friends make fun of my minivan or over priced build. I ask them if they need to borrow my cabin for a little bit while we are snow wheeling for the comfort they are missing in their lives.
I have the locking diffs and they're amazing. Sounds as though you do pretty good with gas mileage. Some good advice too - I'll probably be sticking with the Old Man Emu lift, but I definitely need to look at new UCAs. I might add a small spacer to the isolators at some point.
Revere Overland yes, get the JBA Upper A-Arms!
I have a Diesel WK and its Epic!
Torque for days!
@@RevereOverland Exactly :)
The '07 I've been told is cheaper to repair. Mine's an '06 and the alternator was expensive at $1800 fitted but on the upside it doesn't have the DPF which is lucky cause I don't drive much. Car has 67k miles.
Me to their are a hard find to get a low miles and in good shape
QD2 also has true mechanical lockers when you drop it into 4lo.. some research into that system is well worth your time.
That’s not true. It uses an electronic clutch pack in the front and rear differential that engage automatically when the wheels slip, then disengage seconds later. It’s not the same as the lockers you would find in a Wrangler, although it has a similar end result. You also don’t need to be in 4lo for it to work.
I also look for the next Overland vehicle and came to the same conclusions. What you get for the price is pretty good. Here in Europe it's called WH not WK, is available with a diesel engine and they're built in Austria by the same plant which build the Mercedes G wagons.
You can actually get the diesel engine here too. They're very rare. I tried to find one for the right price, but it wasn't happening! Do they come with a manual/stick shift option in Europe?
Pretty much all Autos here in the UK. I don't think there were any WK/WHs in the UK in manual. You got a pretty weird accent- I hear a lot of Brit and maybe a bit Saffa mixed in with the American drawl. I can't place it...? Very interesting..
Another point I keep hearing is that the European made Chryslers/Jeeps made in Austria are much better built. Yes we have the same cheap and nasty plastic interiors but don't really suffer reliability issues. Except the front suspenion knock on my 300C........
I moved from Norfolk (UK) to Kentucky 8 years ago, which will explain the accent!
My biggest concern with Chrysler would be with the electronics, which I would assume would come from the same source as American made?
Revere Overland Not sure. I've not heard of electronic issues over here on Chrysler or Jeeps so maybe they are different? Or made in Austria from scratch.
Narfarrk eh? Yeah, that'll explain it! Not much different to Kentucky really! ;) Envious!
The thing that scares me about that 5.7l Hemi is that cam failure thing that has been happening. I can't find how common or uncommon the issue is but I do see a lot of posts about the problem in all sorts of Dodge and Jeep products.
drarbo1 Hemi Tick is real. But I guess not so common that they had to recall...maybe buy an extended warranty. I would. I would trust the 5.7 far and away over the 4.7 POS.
What years? It didnt occur in my 2011 had it for 98k miles and my 2010 now has 166k miles. Honestly I'm gonna go look it up since I havent heard of it
Look into some engine fail years back that was reported, and basically the active cylinder delete was some how related to shut off when the engine was run hard and hot and shut off abruptly. Such a scenario would be if you were driving freeway speeds and pulled into for fuel and shut off without letting idle for a minute or too. Did not make sense at the time either. Top end lubrication maybe? Look there.
I have a 2009 wk limited and have just started to build it for off road but have run into an issue. I have a “Service 4wd System” light that came on and now I can’t put it into 4lo. Have you ever had that issue or know of anyone that has? Love the vehicle but this has me stumped! Love the videos by the way, keep them coming!
That sucks, but it's not uncommon. I've heard of people pulling the fuse for the system (#33), starting the engine and driving, then putting it back in with the engine still running. Apparently when you restart it'll be fixed. I know there was also a couple of Technical Service Bulletins (21-022-14 is the most recent I found - static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2014/SB-10069322-0335.pdf) on it that the Jeep dealership can do. Just don't let them replace anything, it's not necessary!
Revere Overland Thanks for the reply. I tried the fuse thing several times and it didn’t work. I tried to open the service bulletin but it wouldn’t open. Thanks for the help , if you run across any solutions please let me know. Thanks again!
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2014/SB-10069322-0335.pdf I messed up the link!
Revere Overland Thanks for the help! I was able to get it open. Besides rock rails and tires what other mods have you done to your WK, and additional armor?
I've had mine for 66k miles and has had the "service 4wd system" since day one. I had already read about it so when I test drove it I checked if the 4lo engaged, it did, so I bought it. Traction control also works flawlessly, and I maintain the diffs, transfer case, and transmission myself so I know its neither of those things. Just an annoying service light I guess
Seems like all the negatives are due to the lift kit and the fact that you off-road it
we picked up a 2010 overland CRD in England
I'd love the diesel!
Maybe the "droning" is the tires or something else? My 2008 is whisper quiet all the way up to 75mph.
It's funny you said that. I had a bearing replaced yesterday, and now the only sound I have is the wind noise in my roof rack!
Revere Overland That is funny. Glad it was an easy fix.
too bad you removed the WK from your website… My Diesel WK is like a freight train on the road. Lack of aftermarket bumpers, skid plates, etc.. But when you engage 4LO, again, a freight train….
Good video, keep the videos coming ✌
Did you upgrade your roof rack to install the roof top tent? Or are you on factory rails and cross bars? I have a 07 limited hemi and looking to do the rtt
I put Thule crossbars on. Honestly, I wasn’t completely happy with the large tent up there still. It overhung the windshield too much, so was buffeted. The smaller ones might be better.
@@RevereOverland Thanks for getting back, not much info online for rtt install on the wk's. I was looking into the smaller smittybuilt 2-3 person tent for the roof. What tent were you running up top?
It’s the Smittybilt XL on mine. I have a video review on it. The smaller one might be ok. Unfortunately the WK roof isn’t ideal for RTTs since it’s short, and relatively weak.
@@RevereOverland Oh, cool. I'll go checkout your vid. I was looking into the rocky road roof rack system as an upgrade option. From what ive learned ill probably will end up going with it. I ended up with a wk for the same reason you did, great price, and i love mine. Eventually looking to build a sprinter van, but i figured the roof tent is a good way to get my feet wet with over landing
I think the Rocky Road rack would be a solid choice!
Why didn’t you like your older cherokee on the highway? I have been looking at older cherokees and 4runners. I have about $8k to spend and have been thinking of getting a vehicle for $4k and putting $4k worth of after market stuff into it.
-Braxton
They just don't behave as well on the roads - it requires more effort and concentration when you have to correct the steering for every bump. The XJs and ZJs are also very small vehicles, and I've seen how you and Brandon pack!! Another great thing about these is that they require very little work - you can pick them up for
They aren't bad on the highway at all, the trouble is people bash on them lift them put huge tires on them and wonder why they wander all over the road after they spent a day bashing it through rocks, mud, etc...knocking the thing out of alignment which causes them to wander all over the road. My 96 ZJ did fine and my current 98 ZJ does just fine on the highway and extremely comfortable on the highway. They are solid axle trucks practically, so they handle as such, and if you aren't used to driving anything more than a compact to mid-size car on the highway these types of vehicles of course handle different because they ride higher, they're larger, wider, taller, so they are effected by several things, side winds, passing big rigs, etc.
Another common thing I see is people remove the sway bars in the front and rear because they want more axle articulation, but what they don't realize is it also causes different on-highway manners by removing the sway bars now when you get into a tight turn at higher speeds you feel very unsafe where having the sway bars actually helps keep the vehicle more stable in higher speed maneuvers....best route is sway bar disconnects to keep them in place for those highway trips, but disconnecting them when you wanna go play on the trails...something many vehicles aren't really able to do in stock form, something that the XJ, ZJ, WJ, and WK's are/were great for, take the family to school, work, home, sports, etc. all week, hit the trails on the weekend.
Why not a 100 series?
I love the LC100/LX470. For financing something less than 10 years old has a much lower interest rate, and they're at least twice the price of the WK of a similar age.
I’ve been researching on line the difference between the overland and a std model , I read that they are approx 2 inch higher
I’m curious how this is achieved if not suspension, if you fit a OME 2inch lift that is aimed at all Grand Cherokee’s , I would have
Thought fitting it to a overland you wouldn’t achieve any lift ……or am I missing something in my research .
Overland is the same height as the regular models. The main difference is QDII (which is fantastic) and the skid plates.
@@RevereOverland thanks for confirming that , strange I found some one saying the were 2 inch higher. Certainly a affordable option 👍👍👍
Hey there, whats the radio setup? like the antenna, mount and radio itself, thanks in advance!!!!
The mount is from Crawl Offroad. I have all of the details and links in the communications section of my website: www.revereoverland.com/thejeephome/
I had hemi 5.7 2005 with quadra drive ii its very powerful on offroading . Watch out there is a space were water can leak into the gearbox it happened to me while i was on very tough snow offroading. Had to replace the gearbox dont know if newer models they fixed this silly issue or not.
Yes, it is! Thanks for the tip, it would suck to have to replace!
Would it be possible to wire QDII up in such a way that you could toggle the lock on and off with switches?
I've heard about people doing it, but it seems like a waste of time to me. The system is incredibly effective as it is, and there's almost no wheel spin before it engages.
Hi. What is the size of tyres do you use?
265/70/r17. I have a 1.5 inch spacer, pinch weld mod, and folded over rear fender lip.
Revere Overland, what sliders do you have?
I went with the JCR Offroad sliders for $409. They mount under the vehicle, losing some ground clearance. Sometimes I wish I'd gone with the Crawl Offroad sliders for $699 - they replace the rocker panel so you don't lose any clearance.
Revere Overland , yeah the crawl's are nice, but $699 unfinished is a bit steep. I'm thinking of going with RRO's kicker sliders.
JCR and RRO look pretty much the same. RRO are more, but they come coated. I went uncoated and just hit it with a bedliner can to touch it up. Mine have taken a beating, and have zero issues. One complaint I read about RRO is that it takes a long time to get them delivered. Mine took 9 weeks from ordering from JCR though!
Have you had any check engine codes?? My Hemi throws codes every time i let off the gas after reaching 45 - 50 mph.... Its the P013 codes...
Never had it, but you need to get that fixed. Hopefully it's not too bad.
From what I’ve been reading there is no fix... if anyone knows of a fix, PLEASED queue me in! I’ve changed the O2 sensors and had the exhaust manifold gaskets replaced. $$$
Just picked up my 5.7 L hemi limited edition ( with electronic lockers ).. Paid only $5k... has 100,000 miles even! fucking gorgeous... However, this cheap, I am currently replacing the front differential bushings and rebuilding the front driveshaft... still a good deal.. That highway drone at 70mph was a little concerning at first. I hope these repair will limit some of that noise!
Nice! That's a great price. I bet replacing some of the parts will help with the noise - I think I have a bearing going bad somewhere that's making it loud on the highway at the moment.
What size tire are you running?
Check out my build page for all of the details: www.revereoverland.com/thejeephome/
Should have gone with a wj for live axles instead of IFS. Pretty good on road too and has the same options as a wk if you go for the overland edition
I had to have something less than 10 years old. Also the WJ LSDs aren’t as good as the WK ELSD.
LOLOLOL try a supercharged toyota land cruiser boston to moab ouray etc thats bad mileage .
Is it the 3.0 crd diesel for engine
The CRD is a great engine. I have the 5.7 hemi.
shortly you chose it for the price
Not at all. $8,000 can get you a ton of off road capable vehicles, including an 80 series Land Cruiser, Nissan XTerra, 4Runner, Tacoma, Tundra, Land Rover LR3, Wrangler TJ, etc. I looked into all of the options and chose this over each of them.
@@RevereOverland I fell in love with Jeeps and recently paid just over seven for mine, it wasn't my only choice, but it was my first one in my budget.
Revere Overland same here I was looking at 4th gen 4runners, Land Rovers ,and xterras. 4 runner and xterra has the size and capability, land rover has the interior and looks, the WK has all that and with a hemi, much more value for the same price. I was able to find a 2010 limited with 100k miles. It is unbelievable the 4 runners were priced the same except they had 190k miles and shitty interior with weak engine, what a joke! Lol the Jeep has been solid for the 66k miles I've had it. Maintainance is simple and gets 19 mpg. The mountains have manage to dent my fender, crack my lights and bent my radiator but all that can be easily fixed Lol
Also have the hemi you will probably need jbaoffroad.com/jeep/grand-cherokee-2005-2010/jba-jba-upper-control-arms-jeep-grand-cherokee-wk.html
You have a strange accent. Where are you from?
I bought a 2006 wk crd the same time you did with only 60,000 miles for €2,800 I'm in Ireland there classed as pieces of crap here!
you sound like one of the Alaskan bush people
First time I've heard that! I'm from England.
This is how I think the second generation of colonialists would sound
thats what I was thinking.... make up your mind... UK accent or US accent.... one or the other, don't do both! :). Strange accent aside, great review and I love that Jeep!
@@ellomot0 well technically when america was colonized nobody really had today’s traditional british accent, the english language was just so much different
e have one love it except I hate automatics e all do in England
No thanks not into glorified unibody car going off road.