Touareg vs. Grand Cherokee Off-Road: Which OLD SUV Can Play Better In The Dirt?

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  • @TFLoffroad
    @TFLoffroad  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This exact Jeep is up for auction right now. Check it out HERE! tflbids.com/vehicles/2000-jeep-grand-cherokee-limited-4x4/

    • @rerod650
      @rerod650 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This Jeep would fit in nicely in the TFL fleet! Especially for some v8 comparison testing with the 392! Just saying

    • @ChannelZeroOne
      @ChannelZeroOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      4000 seems like a legit price. I see a decent amount of work needed in the near future. If this relist let know. Seems like a good start build up on.

  • @mzwandilenzimande4621
    @mzwandilenzimande4621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    YES PLEASE!!! More WJ videos Please Please Please Please.

  • @rigom.2853
    @rigom.2853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Finally an old grand cherokee is featured on this channel 🙄

    • @bahamashadow2535
      @bahamashadow2535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you… WK …5.7 With QD2 next 🙏🏽 please

    • @elviszamoraalvarez9563
      @elviszamoraalvarez9563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤦‍♂️no sabes como corren

    • @tonyfourpaws4511
      @tonyfourpaws4511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not just any old Jeep.. a WJ!!!!!!

    • @edzimdahl1158
      @edzimdahl1158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That not old, only middle aged, step back to an even better model,,, the zj

  • @australiantruckspotting8883
    @australiantruckspotting8883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The WJ was the most fun 4x4 I’ve owned, the sound and the low down torque of the 4.7 V8 is intoxicating.

    • @JustinD93
      @JustinD93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I completely agree I owned one a few years back here in the UK. Awesome V8 roar!!!

    • @lionsgarage
      @lionsgarage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe you had an exhaust leak.

  • @314jeepsnmopars3
    @314jeepsnmopars3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I'm personally a ZJ guy but that WJ proved what the Grand Cherokees can do, especially for the money.

    • @frankzee111
      @frankzee111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a wj v8 but don't like the fact I cannot mod it. Going to a zj 5.2 and cam, headers, and aluminum heads!

    • @tylerdubois9020
      @tylerdubois9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@frankzee111 What do you mean you cannot mod it? Engine mods or what?
      You should check out MartinBuilt, he has done a large amount of mods on his WJ 4.7l (non-HO).

    • @frankzee111
      @frankzee111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylerdubois9020I'll check it out but I just can't see how you going to get 400 horsepower out of a 4.7 without using a SC

    • @tylerdubois9020
      @tylerdubois9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@frankzee111 Oh yeah if your trying to get over 400hp thats not happening without forking a lot of money up. The 4.7l is actually a really good engine as long as its maintained. Mines got 213k on original 4.7l HO, and the power is nice offroading.

  • @bradpittiful7288
    @bradpittiful7288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    the wj is my fave grand cherokee...great video!

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      WJ is a great mix of off road and luxury. Actually has solid axles too.

    • @zachsteele6964
      @zachsteele6964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@phild9813 that's actually so awesome

    • @willb3018
      @willb3018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Had a 2000 that I bought new. Loved it. Never off road, but it sure made driving in deep snow a breeze. Lot of capability that I never used.

  • @charliedee9276
    @charliedee9276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    With a few tweaks my 04 WJ has surprised many. A small (3") lift, 32" tires and the factory Vari Lok in the rear with a TruTrac in front. 4.7ho keeps it running with the modern stuff speed wise. A WJ with zero issues...that really IS mind boggling.

  • @ascendantrobin3230
    @ascendantrobin3230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    oh man ive been waiting for this comparison!!! Love me a grand cherokee WJ !!!😎🇺🇸

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I would take the Jeep!

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      All day everyday

    • @ItzzTesta
      @ItzzTesta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Seeing how this video is an ad for his jeep on their auction site, that makes sense.

    • @TheHofnerPlayer
      @TheHofnerPlayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve had both. The VW is the better all rounder

  • @lukekaspar1313
    @lukekaspar1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've owned both a 2003 GC limited V8, 2001 GC limited 4.0 i6, and 2009 VW Touareg 3.6 v6. All are very nice. The V8 GC has more power but not necessarily better off road than the 4.0. better than the Touareg off road but the VW is nicer for daily driving and more luxurious. Really depends on what you like. I can tell you the jeep is way cheaper to maintain.

  • @dirtsailoroff-road5580
    @dirtsailoroff-road5580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    thanks for the off road content TFL, you guys always brighten my day!

  • @vinny143
    @vinny143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Nice Jeep!

  • @cybertrophic
    @cybertrophic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had a 4.7 Limited. Made me smile and had the comfiest seats I’ve ever sat in.
    Not great on-road compared to the Range Rover it replaced, but never felt it would get stuck anywhere. I’d have another tomorrow.

  • @thebadbug7026
    @thebadbug7026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Seems like a pretty cool guy to come all the way out there and have some fun with you guys!

  • @jerrodcorey25
    @jerrodcorey25 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quadratrac II is full time four wheel drive with a 52/48 % front to back power split.
    2005 and up. 1999 - 2004 uses a Gerator with oil pump to put fluid under pressure to clutch packs to make sure both front and rear axles spin at the same speed. It also uses individual brake locking to send power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip.

    • @dentondunn4346
      @dentondunn4346 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 99 4.0 GC has the Quadra Trac system and I haven't even tried it off-road yet. Afraid I'll hate it and disown it lol

  • @khaos2nd
    @khaos2nd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s nice to see a WJ out and about! I have a 4wd WJ with the infamous 4.0l and I think it’s a pretty underrated jeep even though it doesn’t have a traditional boxy design

  • @davidbryanwoodworksandmore
    @davidbryanwoodworksandmore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    my new jeep wj 2001 was amazing off-road. stock is amazing. so comfortable also. sure miss that thing.

  • @ConWolfDoubleO7
    @ConWolfDoubleO7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These Tough T videos are actually what got me started searching for my own treg. Its a hard damn car to find for a good price these days but I got one and I have to say, its absolutely killed the trails. I took a much harder trail than what TFL do with a group and the treg was the only one that walked away with no damage.

    • @niquemarshall
      @niquemarshall 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i bought my 2008 in december 2020 for $3800 with 168k miles. they’re out there

  • @mynameismontymontana
    @mynameismontymontana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really hope the Touareg ends up on TFLBids...I’ll happily bid on that bad boy.

    • @XHobbiesPrime
      @XHobbiesPrime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That Touareg actually really impressed me.

    • @Hasithism
      @Hasithism 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's your lucky day

    • @andrymashka1757
      @andrymashka1757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can buy mine. Lol

  • @Seattle808
    @Seattle808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Noooo don’t sell that beautiful WJ! 😭

  • @jdsrcs8061
    @jdsrcs8061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the WJ!!! I scored mine in 2010 from the original owner. His wife wanted the new body style at that time. It was their town behind the RV rig and Sunday driver. It only had 20k miles on it. It has been awesome since them. The radiator took a dump 2 months ago, waiting for the new one to show up.

  • @williamfenton6562
    @williamfenton6562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yess, the video I've been asking for!!!

  • @Andywinnipeg
    @Andywinnipeg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this Jeeps, I had myself a 2004 V8, but it was constantly broken. Sold it after 2 year's.

  • @andreipretorius92
    @andreipretorius92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome video. I loved the wj. Had one and it was one of the best jeeps I have owned. Comfortable for long journeys, nice V8 sound and great off road. Prefer it to the xj but prefer the xjs shape. Really enjoyed this video

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Had a WJ... awesome car. WK was a huge step back in interior quality.

    • @trentmoseley
      @trentmoseley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To me the WK is a huge step back in every way. Absolutely love the WJs

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trentmoseley except the 4wd system. The Quadra drive II system in the WK was very fast and strong and nearly as capable as a fully locked driveline. WJ Quadra drive worked well enough but was slower and weaker. Better to just get QT and throw a locker in the rear like this guy did. That and the hemi option. Haha

    • @trentmoseley
      @trentmoseley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KTMcaptain but on the WEST of your front drive shaft fails you're screwed. You have to have it in there. On the WJs you can just take it out and drive without until you can fix it

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trentmoseley my front driveshaft failed on my WJ... I drove with it for 50 miles making horrible noises and vibrations to get out of the area and to the dealership. Lol.

    • @trentmoseley
      @trentmoseley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KTMcaptain west was supposed to be WKs lol. Yeh. I had a buddy of mine his front driveshaft came completely out of the front knuckle. Tore up the shifter cable. He had to trailer it

  • @alpha2gproject783
    @alpha2gproject783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have to say that the WJ was by far my favorite Jeep. I had an 03 with the HO 4.7 and Quadradrive and it was as close to having lockers as one could get. The only downside is the 4.7. It had plenty of power, but the engines are really fragile...upper ring lands and timing chains failing are really common. Death wobble isn't nearly as bad as other Jeeps but still happens. I used a case of death wobble as a reason to put a 3 inch lift on mine which required all suspension parts to be replaced.

    • @rockymountboy
      @rockymountboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I have! And did! lol

    • @chadingram6390
      @chadingram6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear something new all the time with these engines, add rocker lash adjusters failing, valve seals going bad, timing chain tensioners, overheating issues with weak head gaskets and warping aluminum heads.
      Please tell me more about the ring landing issue i'd rather know now

    • @xmonger
      @xmonger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don't overheat it and change the oil every 3-5k. It will run forever. Not a fragile motor at all.

    • @tonyzito4628
      @tonyzito4628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost 500,000 mi still going strong

    • @alpha2gproject783
      @alpha2gproject783 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chadingram6390 If you compare the 4.7 SOHC from Chrysler to a very similar 4.6 SOHC from Ford you'll notice that the ring lands are extremely close to the top of the piston. Chrysler/Jeep did this as a means to reduce friction but inadvertently made the piston/ring land weaker. I had the exact issue happen with my '03 4.7 HO. I bought it with only 55,000 miles on it and at about 97,000 the ring let go. I only use Castrol full synthetic and change my oil on every vehicle at 5,000 mile intervals which is typically way under what the OEM suggests. The truck was serviced at a local Jeep dealer every day of its life which is why I bought it because the maintenance was spot on. If you check out many forums you'll see hundreds...if not thousands of threads reporting the same issues. I replaced the engine with a remanufactured engine and that engine let go at 135,000 because the timing guides failed. Also, lets not forget the fact that the WJ for the first 2 years has issues with chewing threw rotors because of the terrible caliper design (I replaced my rotors 3 times within a year and I'm an very easy going driver...I can't afford to have expensive things break all the time).

  • @AJourneyOfYourSoul
    @AJourneyOfYourSoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All these years of Jeeps, TJ/XJ/WJ etc.... are all awesome. Especially with the 4.0 I6.
    Lift, tires, locker in the rear and you are good to go.
    I still have my Rubicon TJ, 4.0 I6 with manual and it still is a ton of fun.

  • @rzu7120
    @rzu7120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The transmission in my 2014 Jeep went out at 21,000 miles. This one has 200,000 more miles on it.

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Different transmission. I had a WJ just like this one. Other than low oil pressure in the winter🤷🏾‍♂️, the thing definitely ran. They have little stupid stuff that goes wrong with them like the turn signal modules, broken blend doors, and howling rear ends.

    • @douglasbeary7890
      @douglasbeary7890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't give the 545rle/45rle trans too much credit they aren't great neither is 42rle, but then again nobody takes proper care of their transmissions in any vehicle.... (I know there are a hand full that do, im not one of them🙄)

    • @darrenbishop4327
      @darrenbishop4327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My all original 2000 wj has 230,000 and it has the 4.7 and Quadra trac 2 and it is a beast. I have street tires, no lift and no mods and my family and I just went off-roading about a week ago in the blue ridge mountains in some crazy stuff with confidence.

    • @lowellstokes5328
      @lowellstokes5328 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Daily driver is a 98 zj 4.0 I6 with 213,000 miles. Still runs great! The newer ones don’t seem to have the same reliability, or I’d buy one; instead, I’ll probably replace the engine with a stroker.

  • @mechsupernova
    @mechsupernova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got my red 99 for $800 no rust, had to rebuild the transfer case and replace a rear axel bearing and that is all, been driving it everywhere.

  • @Kanakid
    @Kanakid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have owned two JKs. I now own a WJ 4.7HO. It is a very good Jeep. I installed a 4” RC long arm lift, hidden 10,000 winch, 33” BFG KO2 tires. Also put a Spartan locker in the rear. It runs and crawls excellent!! Up here in Canada we wheel for 6 months in the snow, a good set of tire chains makes this thing a beast. Please do more videos on the mighty WJ!

  • @LukeEdward
    @LukeEdward 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is a wonderfully maintained WJ. Looks spectacular. Very much a performance machine……. Except that 4.7L V8 is on it’s way out. If you’re ready to have fun with a beautiful Grand Cherokee and are prepared to replace the engine, go for it. You can see the beginnings of it going full “Saliva” (“Tick, Tick, Boom”).

    • @JF-lt5zc
      @JF-lt5zc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The smoke coming out of the exhaust when they revved it says it all. Still, nice rig. Drop a fresh 5.7 in there and you'd be set for another decade.
      What I find interesting is the tires. I have 32s on my WK with no lift. They easily fit in the rear well and just fit up front. (lift is on the way). Not that my WK would out perform that WJ with the solid axles!

    • @geuros
      @geuros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JF-lt5zc I believe 5.7 is too long to fit in WJ, I read about that on WJJeeps, have one myself, also 4.7. I believe flooring it regularly and keeping an eye on the oil changes and coolant is crucial to keep that engine running happily

    • @finnirish1251
      @finnirish1251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geuros may be true. But someday I'm gonna see a viper swapped wj. I will make one fit if I can afford it someday.

    • @geuros
      @geuros 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@finnirish1251 that will be bonkers :D

    • @cmdrhvacker5650
      @cmdrhvacker5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JF-lt5zc true lol my 4.7HO is straight piped and I dont get nearly as much smoke from the exhaust.. I don't think I've ever seen ANY smoke let alone a drip of fluid but I AM in Arizona born and raised so idk maybe that has something to do with it... but it does get cold here and I see a ton of cars on the road with the typical early morning cold weather steam from the exhaust that I NEVER have seen from my WJ

  • @wootwoot5032
    @wootwoot5032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a challenging hill. Nice work.

  • @930GearHead
    @930GearHead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 2000 wj limited is almost the exact same as this, same color and everything. Love it!

  • @blueryxfalls7949
    @blueryxfalls7949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That touareg has seen more trails combined than your defender lol

  • @oireddevils
    @oireddevils 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video all, the off-road community is so wholesome.

  • @southbay281
    @southbay281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the same wj. It's a keeper for sure

  • @blakliffy
    @blakliffy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Best used car commercial ever.

  • @hewlett260
    @hewlett260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Makes me miss my WJ

  • @colegarthwaite5633
    @colegarthwaite5633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cant wait for for you guys to test an old fx4 ford ranger! They came standard with 4x4, 4.10 rear end lsd and a twin stick t case. Stock on 31s! Check em out, they are rapidly increasing in price, with many owned by older folks from new...

  • @robertgolden1080
    @robertgolden1080 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started my WJ build. 3’’ lift kit, 16x8’’ steel rims 265/75/16 milestar Patagonia tires quick disconnect front sway bar link. It’s got the Quadra Trac 2 transfer case. Looking forward to hitting some trails with it. Great video.

  • @rodagg
    @rodagg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Guys of TFL, buy that jeep and show us the capabilities of the WJs!

    • @douglasbeary7890
      @douglasbeary7890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These guys will never show you what a vehicle is truly capable of. Im not knocking them at all this is a great channel for the poeple dabling there feet in the offroad world. Im a subscriber and love the content.
      FYI this video was oranges to apples comparison. That jeep was modified and he was wrong about the system that was in that jeep based on the explanation. Quadra-trac 2 is a a five position t-case 2hi-4hi-fulltime 4hi- neutral- 4low....... what he discribed was the quadra-drive system full time 4hi- neutral- 4low..... both work great.
      I own 5 of these vehicles 4 of them are stock and 1 on 35s long arm 6" lift locked front and rear both axles are trussed chromoly shafts 30 spline upgrade and 4.88 gears 4.0l quadra trac system..... 3 others are 4.7 highoutput with quadra-drive and the 5th one is standard 4.7 2 wheel drive
      I also own a 1990 grand wagoneer

    • @717UT
      @717UT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@douglasbeary7890 You are thinking of the Selec-trac system. It has the more traditional transfer case settings you described. Quadra-track 2 is exactly how he described it. Quradra-drive is the same all time 4WD but in addition to Vari-lock axles. I know because I own a 2001 V8 with QT2

  • @haldoglife
    @haldoglife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had a ZJ with lift and 33” mud terrains and always enjoyed surprising the traditional off-roaders with it’s ability to climb.

  • @conormccarthy4409
    @conormccarthy4409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love the tough T, but give me a tough GC any day of the week

    • @youtubecarspottersguide1
      @youtubecarspottersguide1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      me to 1993-98 or 1999-2004. in line 6 or v8 not sure of 2005-10 ,2011-21 will I get 221k miles out of them ??

    • @conormccarthy4409
      @conormccarthy4409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@youtubecarspottersguide1 i cant see why not. I had a liberty with the same powertech 3.7 v6 that the WK grand cherokees had and got her to over 200k before getting into an accident, have driven the hemi version of it multiple times in recent years and they still seemed strong, and the WK2 with either the 3.6 or 5.7 is hard to beat for reliability in that segment

    • @darrenbishop4327
      @darrenbishop4327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youtubecarspottersguide1 I’ve owned three wj’s and I currently my driver has the 4.7 and it has 230,000 on and it is still a great vehicle to drive everyday. My second one I traded in own my wife’s car and it has 262,000 with the 4.0 and it was my daily driver and was also a beast. They are work horses for sure.

  • @V8AmericanMuscleCar
    @V8AmericanMuscleCar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had turbo diesel WJ and I really enjoyed that ride, on the road or of the road.

  • @yeahman1975
    @yeahman1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @blackpearl0285
    @blackpearl0285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 2000 wj limited same color and motor except mine has the selec trac. It's a beast off road that's for sure.

  • @andrescarrillo_fitness
    @andrescarrillo_fitness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 4.7 is a Phenomenal engine, if you take care of it. If you half ass the care on it It will crap out on you. Keep up on the maintenance and it’ll easily get you to 300k+

  • @trailrunnah8886
    @trailrunnah8886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I love the solid-axle Grand Cherokees, I had a ZJ for 12 years, it never left me stranded once. As far as that WJ going 99 percent of where a TRD Pro 4Runner will go, nope, other way around. Even mildly modded WJ like this one will crush a 4Runner once the trail gets technical. I would have liked to see his buddy's 4Runner try to make it up the hill, something tells me he tried and struggled and didn't want it on video, LOL. And not talking smack about the 4Runner, my daily driver is one very similar. But I know enough to know that the Jeep is superior off-road.

    • @josiaevans
      @josiaevans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen!

    • @cleancar8553
      @cleancar8553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed

    • @BillLaBrie
      @BillLaBrie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a ZJ and used to do trail runs with guys in Toyotas, Chevys, Fords. Once, I heard something snap under the ZJ going through a tough section. Made it over anyway. Did the rest of the run, occasionally finding it more difficult than I had remembered from previous times. The other guys were struggling, but far more than I ever did. At the end I took a closer look underneath the ZJ and realized I’d broken the front driveshaft.

    • @trailrunnah8886
      @trailrunnah8886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BillLaBrie haha too funny, that's awesome! They're great vehicles, very underrated.

    • @jamesdewer
      @jamesdewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah my 01, 4.7 no lift and 31s. I can take it down billy goat trails.

  • @jeremysgarage498
    @jeremysgarage498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Such a great design and actually of good quality. Had one back in 2013 and it was a great vehicle. Unfortunately my 4.7 had timing issues and bent the valves

    • @Keyno77
      @Keyno77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They're very well known for dropped valve seats, the inline AMC 4.0 are perfect.

    • @douglasbeary7890
      @douglasbeary7890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are known for dropped valve seats is true but also true that is caused by improperly purged/bled cooling system.

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep...go with the inline 6 banger / 4.0 ...they'll make it to 400,000 with decent maintainence

  • @dtoney1182
    @dtoney1182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I first saw thumbnail to this video, I thought this was my WJ! I have the exact same color, 4.7, 4x4. The only difference is the color of the interior. I can attest to the reliability of these Jeeps. I have had mine for 4 years & it made a successful move from Orlando, FL to St Louis, Missouri. Passed vehicle state inspection & emissions test with flying colors. Best vehicle I have ever owned.

  • @-redtango
    @-redtango 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you remember when TFL wasn't just a big commercial for their online bidding site?

  • @knutnordgaard8846
    @knutnordgaard8846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool 😎 More WJ videos! 😃 They're really capable and really nice 4x4's.

  • @bugsnstuff5643
    @bugsnstuff5643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wife and I have 2 WJs with over 270,000mi each and have been very reliable. Midwest rust is slowly killing them. Mine sees alot of off road and both are set up similarly to the one in this video.

  • @R3Dband10
    @R3Dband10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 4.7 v8 in thr jeep is an absolute beast when pairs with quadratrac but the taureg having lockers from factory is hard to beat. Not to mention the approach and departure angle on the taureg.

  • @robsargent8611
    @robsargent8611 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video 👍

  • @benbirch2393
    @benbirch2393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a brit living in very rural France, and I own a mint 40k wj overland 2.7crd with quadradrive. Fitted with Rubicon wheels, 245/70 a/t let down to 18psi and an OME lift, it has gone up and down every gnarly disused track and field I have got lost down and cruises like a luxury car at 80mph on the motorway full of fishing, camping and hunting gear.
    Off road bargain of the century and i think values are only going to go up

  • @joeymccullough2716
    @joeymccullough2716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sweet WJ-set up just right for all around performance. You’re selling it? WHY?

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On to the next project

  • @theforzaboi3776
    @theforzaboi3776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Now you guys should do a vid with a ZJ please 😉

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the WJ - go for the High Output 4.7. fitted from new to the Overland only.
    30 bhp more than standard @ 265. Doesn't sound like much of an increase, but, dropped valve seats notwithstanding, actually surprisingly fast and effortless.
    I miss mine, but with gas prices in NZ, she had to go.

  • @calebzoetewey5298
    @calebzoetewey5298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Where is this trail? Because I live in Colorado and I’ve been wondering for awhile. Awesome vid!!

    • @NitroAero
      @NitroAero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me as well!

  • @joshc606
    @joshc606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never would have guess that mileage

  • @mutiracialbeatdownPB
    @mutiracialbeatdownPB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I now own both of these, had my 00 WJ since 2014 and now it has over 315k. Just bought an 04 VW and my god it's just better in every way that the Jeep ever has been.

  • @TheJamesbomfray
    @TheJamesbomfray 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those old Jeeps were awesome! The tork of the V8 engines were unbeatable. Good old times

  • @bkb2865
    @bkb2865 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi from France, I like my Cherokee XJ but only in manual gearbox, thank for the sharing 👍

  • @tombrinson9402
    @tombrinson9402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 04 WJ , and loved that Jeep , ending up with putting 575,000 miles on it before I sold it to a couple for a song, still see it out and about . Loved that Jeep.

    • @torreypires6192
      @torreypires6192 ปีที่แล้ว

      575 damn

    • @Sanjko87
      @Sanjko87 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On what engine was it

    • @tombrinson9402
      @tombrinson9402 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sanjko87 the 4.7.

  • @javierlb2041
    @javierlb2041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i have a 2002 wj but it is 2.7 diesel. the diff betwen that one its that mine has the quadra drive and thats magic, hope you can do in the future another comparison with the quadra drive model. great video

    • @chadingram6390
      @chadingram6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The main difference is the varilok axles but the locker he installed is the better way to go. The varilok isn't as effective on 33" tires

  • @billj5645
    @billj5645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We owned a WJ that we bought new and it was a great vehicle. I would prefer it to any current GC. If it was available with the current Pentastar V6 and lockers it would be a great offroader, mechanically similar to the current JLU.

  • @aclark106277
    @aclark106277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i appreciate this man's love for his jeep

    • @joegriffin6699
      @joegriffin6699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's selling it. Can't love it that much.

  • @FOMA481
    @FOMA481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. Great video and great cars. I have a jeep wj, I go fishing on it. The machine is also very pleased.
    Good luck to you.

  • @bennapier9260
    @bennapier9260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a wj and love it. Very capable and affordable.It's never broke. And doesn't have all the squeaks and rattle of the zj

  • @michaelwilliams8297
    @michaelwilliams8297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everything about that WJ is spot on with one exception, it should have a 4.0 in it. My WJ was dirt cheap, has been stone cold reliable, and has 220k.

  • @wbball15
    @wbball15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love my 2004 WJ with the 4.0 L6. Still stock everywhere. 270k miles. Plans for Iron Rock Offroad Long Arm lift kit and ARB lockers F/R with 5.38 gears eventually.
    Have Rusty's shock and spring lift kit ready to install end of the month.

    • @wdubduece8913
      @wdubduece8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have their 3inch benchmark kit and I'm really happy with it.

    • @BigMateo24
      @BigMateo24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wdubduece8913 Thats what i started with too, but theres not much of it left. Just the track bar and rear end links. Its on its second lift now. Changed the springs for taller Claytons and put Core adjustable arms on all corners and a fabricated rear a-arm. Better than the stock arm and ball joint spacer I had on it before.

    • @jacobbenns6090
      @jacobbenns6090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dang bro, 5.38s are SUPER LOW, im running 4.10s on my 99 Ram, and it makes my first gear a granny gear, I couldn't imagine having to use 5.38s on road, but I bet they're nice off road

    • @wbball15
      @wbball15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobbenns6090 Gear ratio will change when it's no longer the daily driver.

    • @chadingram6390
      @chadingram6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I chose the Rough Country 4 link over the IRO 3 link and i'm glad i did. I had a bolt on 1 of the upper arms come out and if it had been a 3 link it could have ended badly, instead i popped a new bolt in and it's been good ever since

  • @edwardamo
    @edwardamo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Still driving my 2000 WJ, though I've beat the bottom up a bit from scraping more than a few rocks. Jeep's Quadradrive AWD system with low-range transfer case works great. Gonna miss it when I upgrade to a Bronco. :-)

    • @StarGateSG7
      @StarGateSG7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Jeep Cherokee and Grand Cherokee are NOW one of your BEST USED BUYS in 2021. The off-road performance of these, even in luxury trims, have always surprised me at their supreme competence on really gnarly trails. The thing one must do of course, is put AFTERMARKET SKID-PLATES underneath with you are wanting go truly off-road with these.
      The Cherokees have Jeep Sahara DNA in them so they CAN do 4x4 off-road competently. Just put good tires on them!
      v

    • @jerroldshelton9367
      @jerroldshelton9367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the new Bronco, but I'm not convinced that a Bronco is an "upgrade" over a 2000 WJ, especially if the WJ has been tweaked with a little aftermarket love. ;)

    • @tallll70
      @tallll70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jerroldshelton9367 upgrades if you get all offroad features, traditional 2 speed transfer case, front and rear locker and auto mode which works even transfer case from hi to lo automatically, feature list is nice if it will actually work well in real life, i guess the only downgrade is front articulation and V8, but both should bring upgrade engine hopefully in millage and for sure ifs will ride better
      edit: i forgot... auto disconnecting sway bar which works on fly in any position is cool party trick too... again if it will be reliable, Wrangler's disconnecting sway has have vehicle in fair level and they do brake little too much

    • @jerroldshelton9367
      @jerroldshelton9367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tallll70 Upgrades????? Have you actually driven a QuadraDrive WJ on trails?
      If you think this new Bronco is going to go anywhere a QuadraDrive WJ on the same size tire can't go, I'd guess the answer is as resounding "no."
      You know that they also have two-speed transfer cases, right? And that QuadraDrive system makes having fully-locking differentials superfluous.
      Okay, so you do have to be smart enough to know when to pop one in to four-low or not, but beyond that, they're pretty much "point and shoot."
      No stupid "G.O.A.T. Modes" to dial. No lockers to switch on or off. You just pick a line and drive it.
      Put both on the same size tire, and I doubt a new Bronco can go anywhere a QuadraDrive WJ can't.
      If I had a QuadraDrive WJ, I'd spend my money on keeping it long-road trip and backcountry exploring reliable, and perhaps on modding it, if necessary, but I wouldn't be spending it at the Ford Dealer just to get something else that essentially does the same thing on technical trails.

  • @CigarBoss
    @CigarBoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The VW is awesome but if something breaks it's gonna COST you big!💸

  • @krover01
    @krover01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Low range 1st gear is the original hill descent control! Its really all you ever need.

  • @cracklova3299
    @cracklova3299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sad to say this video is one of the reasons the cherokees are getting expensive 🤣🤣. I love my v8 wj and would like to get another one with a 4.0. Stop telling people ab how good they are.!

    • @JonathanSamuel1991
      @JonathanSamuel1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What makes you wanna get the 4.0 ? 🤔

    • @cracklova3299
      @cracklova3299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonathanSamuel1991 sorry it took so long to respond, the 4.0 is one of the most reliable motors ever built and if you stroke and bore them out maybe a little Nitros. They run

    • @JonathanSamuel1991
      @JonathanSamuel1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cracklova3299 interesting ... Unfortunately I think I have the worst engine 😤. I have the WJ with the 3.1 TD ... Man it's a big mess. Now it won't even start anymore. Last week something popped and there was oil unter the hood and leaking out. Haven't figured out where it came from as that engine fills out the entire bay from top to bottom.

    • @cracklova3299
      @cracklova3299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonathanSamuel1991 yeah do you live in Europe ?? I wish I could get a diesel

    • @JonathanSamuel1991
      @JonathanSamuel1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cracklova3299 yupp. I am from Germany.. moved to Spain.. it's nice to have a 4x4. But trust me you don't want the 3.1 ... They Sometimes sell for 1000 bucks as none wants them.

  • @rubenbraekman4515
    @rubenbraekman4515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sure... make a video promoting the hell out of that Jeep then sell it on your site... you guys are good businessmen

  • @AdventuresWithDaniel
    @AdventuresWithDaniel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got 223k on mine. Drives like a charm! Great vehicles.

  • @BabyfaceChase
    @BabyfaceChase 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Goes to show that if you maintain it properly, anything can be reliable. (Some just may need more maintenance than others.)

  • @shawnpalmer2121
    @shawnpalmer2121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought this jeep 2 months ago and John didn't mention it was on youtube lol weird seeing your car at 2am on my favorite channel

  • @theoutdoorsywoman
    @theoutdoorsywoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my Jeep Cherokee ❤️
    Finally died at 314,000 miles.

  • @jstersmithson
    @jstersmithson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew from the beginning that Jeep would make it up that hill without a problem. I had a WJ and I miss it I could blow though mud dirt and swamps like nothing. And it was stock with all terrain tires.

  • @xmonger
    @xmonger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TFL needs to buy this Jeep WJ and produce a ton of content off of it. I have an 03 Overland WJ and it's an amazing vehicle.

    • @reidgrandchamp774
      @reidgrandchamp774 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Based on how terrible my 02 Laredo 4.7 was I'd say most of them are in the junkyard by now. I thought it was the ultimate luxury off-roader when it was new but ended up being a money pit to keep on the road.

  • @cmdrhvacker5650
    @cmdrhvacker5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a WJ owner I can confirm that the lockers were definitely not necessary

  • @planetultimaterally3403
    @planetultimaterally3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best unibody Jeeps were the XD, XJ & ZJ's with the NP242 gear box. The VW TReg has a lower gear ratio than any Jeep plus it wont rust as fast. The air suspension on the VW is amazing and equipped with a lift kit, skid plates, and some decent all-terrain tires it will freak out any off-roader. Plus the 4.2 V8 is the brutal is specially in Sport mode, same engine concept as the Porsche Cayenne. Best to keep the VW in low range and just the the gearboxes work against gravity and if needed bump it. Cool video.

  • @MrThewhip333
    @MrThewhip333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have the wj limited so has hydraulic lockers front and rear and I switched to part time transfer case with the v8 . Quadradrive came with lockers then

    • @rockymountboy
      @rockymountboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They don't actually lock. They get pretty close, though.

    • @MrThewhip333
      @MrThewhip333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rockymountboy true more like a limited slip really but they stay locked up for a bit

    • @chadingram6390
      @chadingram6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrThewhip333 Just gotta keep smaller tires on, it won't couple correctly with bigger 33"+ tires

    • @MrThewhip333
      @MrThewhip333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chadingram6390 yah even with the 4 inch lift the 33s don’t have enough room either, tore the bumper off...that’s after we cut whells back.

  • @oscaramador4200
    @oscaramador4200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've been waiting for so long to se a wj on this channel!

    • @reidgrandchamp774
      @reidgrandchamp774 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not many of them left because they were in the junkyard by 100k miles. Mine was terrible.

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reidgrandchamp774 sorry to hear that. Mine was great.

  • @msclecarcrzy
    @msclecarcrzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's right I have a '99 GC with over 250k and it's reliable as hell! Still drive it everyday. Mine has the 4.0L which has tons of low end torque. Great engine. Everything still works on it

    • @cmdrhvacker5650
      @cmdrhvacker5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 04 4.7ho limited... tons of power no issues offroading as with the 4.0... but how do you maintain 65mph uphill (or get to 65mph)🤣 I haven't owned a 4.0 WJ but I hear that is the biggest flaw with them is that they cannot get out of their own way

    • @msclecarcrzy
      @msclecarcrzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cmdrhvacker5650 Well I can't speak for other people but mine has over 250k now and it is down on power but has tons of low end torque! The 4.0L in my opinion is one of the best motors ever made. The 4.7L has more power but don't over heat it. They don't take heat well. I had a 95 JGC with the 5.2L (318) and that thing would run. Loved it

  • @bruceallen6016
    @bruceallen6016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thumb up for a very nice WJ. What year and how much did it sell for?

  • @KeithNelson-hu2ic
    @KeithNelson-hu2ic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had that same Jeep and the motor on mine blow up at a stop light with only 110 thousand miles on it. Also it had weird electrical issues.And the rear in went bad on me. Other then that it was a great Jeep.

  • @ruimachado8560
    @ruimachado8560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love the Cherokee

  • @mr2gud2u
    @mr2gud2u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy there are a few off-road parks around KC. Most are within 1.5 to 3 hours away. I could be wrong but I think I saw this rig at Tuttle Creek OVR several years ago.

  • @VMAFIA
    @VMAFIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GrandTeam lets go!!

  • @bolt_husky
    @bolt_husky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That regular 4.7 sounds so good with a good chambered muffler like he has. The 4.7HO is nasty with a Borla absorption muffler tho

  • @Medic_312
    @Medic_312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine is on 3" lift springs and long armed front and back with 33" tires and simple fox 2.0s and absolutely race through the desert.

  • @AndresK5Blazer
    @AndresK5Blazer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet rig!

  • @Luca_Natoli
    @Luca_Natoli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The older jeeps are unbreakable.
    Too bad the new ones aren't built the same anymore.
    Nice Jeep, and I don't say that a lot.

  • @thinde88
    @thinde88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had an 03 Overland with an OME lift and loved it. Would have been interested to get more thoughts on the lunchbox locker.

    • @ItzzTesta
      @ItzzTesta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are the worst of all the cheap lockers

    • @bensmith5455
      @bensmith5455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are the worse if you drive in snow and ice on the highway. They work great offroad.

  • @joegriffin6699
    @joegriffin6699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had my wj 2.7diesel 12 yrs now. 30 mpg (UK) . Ausi lokka, puk lift n proper rock sliders (sill cut out) it goes anywhere, comfy, reliable and great on fuel. Had the usual xj, 4.0, crap on fuel, diesel xj, better, 3.1 wj, crap and a 3.0 WK. Good but expensive to run here. Messed with them all, I'm sticking with my wj 2.7 crd.

  • @PyroBlonde7777
    @PyroBlonde7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All our old Chrysler products are heavily used with high mileage. We coherently maintain them but we never have issues. As long as the vehicle wasn't abhorrently abused for decades that is lol.