THE GOOD & THE BAD! Srixon ZX5 & ZX7 Irons
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I review the brand new Srixon ZX5 Iron & Srixon ZX7 Iron, both forged irons. I provide TrackMan numbers on their performances as well as my personal feedback on the look and feel of these irons.
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Yes! I’ve been waiting for this review. Taking an early lunch so I could watch right now.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Love this comment!
The ZX7 is a powerful option for the better player. Your excellent swing demonstrates the consistency of these irons really well. They deserve to sell well and will probably be a breakthrough iron for Srixon.
Love Srixon - the feeling
Nice review. Great swing
Bought a pre-owned set of ZX5 irons with the 4-PW configuration, in the simulator the sound of the ZX5 is quite a "clunky" sort of sound that may be off-putting for some players, but on the course it sounds quite good and non-offensive. Saved a good 250$ getting a used set that was very lightly used. For those that like the feel of a forged iron this set might be worth trying out.
Love the video mate! I had the Z585 for a while but they were just way too long. Like here you hit a 7 iron 186 yards carry! That’s my 5 iron in blades now 😯
Love this video. Would you be able to do a comparison video between the zx7 and z785 irons? I have z785’s and i saw your video on yhe z785’s… is there really a 5mph and 20 yd difference between the two 7 irons?
They look so much more modern than the clubs they are replacing!
Quite a departure from the last generation!
I gamed the z785s for a while and really enjoyed them.
These look quite Interesting !
Nice review Michael!
Best irons out there !
I am kind of shocked your the only reviewer who commented on not liking the sound of the ZX5. I would have thought the bigger badge in the back it might be quieter. I do like the looks better than the 565 & 585.
When you look at the grouping of the zx7 that is very hard to beat. Your grouping of the Wilson blades is also pretty good. I have seem several reviews that show both these irons are deadly consistent and accurate. However, one can not find this criteria when searching for players irons. Would you do a demo of just iron to iron how close to the pin do you get?
Best channel in golf for reviews!!!! Zx7 v mizuno 921 tour v taylormade P7mc......do it!!!!!
Thanks Michael nice presentation Q zx5 zx7 or Mizuno 921 forged
Beautiful clubs, great review. Thank you for the video, very informative.
How do the ZX7s compare to the new Wilson CB? Thanks
I really love ma z785 and would like to see a Z785 vs zx7
I've learned from my trackman 4 studio that When hitting off mats especially with a thicker sole iron you are prone to bigger variations with spin rate simply because it's harder to strike consistently down on the ball like you can on grass because the mat pops the club back up and gives you almost a flier type shot occasionally. With a thinner sole it's not as bad on mats. Out on grass I don't see it happen like I do on a mat in the studio.
I will keep this in mind during my fitting next month, thanks!
So spin would be higher on grass....?
@@stuboy13 yeah for the most part, and more consistent.
Tried my buddy's zx7s now I have a set coming to me in about 3 weeks
What’s your handicap?
@@jggolf4033 your handicap doesn't matter, just grip it and rip it
Thanks for the honesty through the review. Looking forward to this as my 900 forged are getting long in the tooth and beat up. This combo set vs SEL 921, what say you Mike?
I’m looking at the sel combo as well. If they had done the 6 iron in forged as well, I think I might have pulled the trigger
@@martynmantack4026 done alot more homework and srixons are better so going that route
Those smash factors 😮
I bought a used 6-pw ZX5 set online for 500 bucks delivered. I was open to multiple manufacturers but the price was right.
I love the look of those irons. Wonder when they are coming out in the US!!!
Not sure about US but available 26th Sept in europe
I've heard rumors of January.
@@kourt2469 the website just changed to sold out on all the clubs, so I guess it’s soon will the changes!!
@@christophergreen6093 yeah they've been listed as sold out for a week or two for most models.
I just bought the new Z5s(steel stiff). Absolutely love em. So i am 9 hc. In the last few years i used Titleist AP2 (710 and then 716) - great clubs and very accurate. I switched to the easier Z5 coz they are so much more forgiving and added a bit more distance. I prefer to fade the ball, and the Z5 let me work the ball more than the AP2 716s. I do realise i have lost a lot of spin on my shorter irons but i can lice with that. Plus i use PW to 5, and carry Vokey wedges 50, 56 & 62. Tempted to replace the PW with my older AP2 PW.
I developed a golf elbow, so the extra forgiveness plus distance is absolutely fantastic.
Typos- lol. Lice-live lol
My home course (dlf golf club, india) is a par 72, slope 155, rating 78, which is a tough course.
I also switched from AP2 to Pro 225 to ZX7/ZX5 combo. ZX5 is definitely more forgiving than AP2 and ZX7 is not scary in P-8.
Hi Michael. Great video! I just got fitted for a full set of ZX5s. But I'm wondering if the fact the the wedge is 44deg and my gap wedge is 50deg could be an issue. I spoke with another staff member at the shop today and asked his advice on maybe instead blending the ZX7s in from 8I - PW. He informed me that the COG is quite low in the 5s so the gapping should be fine. Would you trust that to be true? Another reason I considered blending was due to the consistency/accuracy of the 7s at the lower end.
I had the same issue, but then got a 48 deg wedge and then that fixed it for me
To the difference in sound on the ZX5... It's not a one-piece forging, so can't really expect that. 1020 carbon steel body and a different type/grade forged steel face which is welded to the body. (SUP10 steel is what Srixon says the face is made of).
Here in Australia, lefthanders can get a 4 and 3 iron in ZX5.
I’m a lefty and I am not happy about losing a 4 iron in both zx5/zx7 sets. I guess they are forcing the ZX Utility on you if you want to combo up to ZX 7 from 6 iron and higher
Great video! Been looking forward to this! Would you say that the zx5 has a clickier sound/feel vs the previous generation z585?
Marc Justin Tee I’d like to know this
Michael probably won't see this and comment but my feeling is that the sound is similar to the Z545, Z565 and the Z585. The Z565 I play feel soft compared to the Callaway irons I had before. The "click" sound probably being amplified by those walls where he's doing the test. On the course they won't feel as soft as the ZX7 but can't imagine them being loud.
If anything the sound would be less clicky than the 585 because it's an enclosed cavity vs the open cavity so the sound would be muted compared to the open cavity of the 585. But I play the 585 and they don't seem very clicky to me.
Face insert on the ZX5, forged body. Same as Z585’s.
Where would you have the split? I have always had 5,6,7 then 8,9,pw.but the ZX7s seem pretty forgiving so maybe just 5 iron in the ZX5? Where do the distances really start to make it worth splitting
Michael, I was fitted for P790's with a KBS C taper lite shaft. Do you think that shaft would provide the same or similar numbers with the ZX5 as I'm looking at those irons. thanks
Mad how you can go from consistent draws to fades just from changing club ! Basically more forgiving improvement irons go left on you !
Offset
please do review HOnma TR20 families, what is suit with level of player. thankyouu
Lovely video Michael. Where is the comparison between the Mizuno and Srixon irons?
Club speed variation due to shaft weight? Modus 105 (ZX5) and Modus 120 (ZX7)
Michael- your opinion would you go with the zx5 or Titleist 200 irons?
Dude the 5 series has a face insert just like the previous models. It's not a solid forging. It sounded like it should.
And it has that undercut pocket cavity, which probably changes the sound as well
Put the ZX7’s against the Mizuno JPX 921 forged...... what a comparison that’ll be. My 2 favourite clubs right now. ⛳️😃⛳️
Certainly sir 😀
Stuart James - Professional Singer the ZX7 is definitely bigger from what I’ve seen in person
Seconded.
50 deg gap wedge for ZX5 and 51 deg for ZX7 is available according to srixon website.
I have been using the Z745 for the last 5 years, beautiful irons, love them, however I just turned 60 and I need the extra yards, still want forged though!. Just been fitted for the ZX5, very nice, gotta love those birthday golf gift vouchers!. Yes I gained an extra 5-6 metres but the feel was still excellent. Went with 6 iron to gap wedge, I really wanted the 50 degree in the same irons. Looking at the Zipcore wedges in 56 & 60, love the V sole, so I want it in the wedges as well. They are not due to arrive until mid April, so time to get the old Z745's irons regripped, going midsize Tour velvet, this time, have them in the hybrids and they feel much better is my hands!
Michael, will there be more Srixon videos coming? You got cut off because of the camera failing on you :)
Do you wear that mat out, walking back and forward through every video you do Mike?
Interesting that in your head to head tests you got longer carry with both the Taylor Made P7MC (190.8) and Mizuno JPX921 Tour (184.3) than with the Srixon ZX7 (175.6) even though the loft on the Srixon ZX7 7 iron is 32 degrees, while the loft on both the TM P7MC 7 iron and the Mizuno JPX921 Tour 7 iron is 34 degrees. You had quite a bit more club head speed with both the TM and Mizuno clubs (89.4 and 90.0 respectively) than with the Srixon (87.7). However, the Srixon had a higher ball speed (124.4) than the TM (123.6) or the Mizuno (121.9). So in other words, the more traditional weaker forged blade lofts on the TM and Mizuno irons are not penalizing the player, at least not you, at all. Brooks Koepka is using the Srixon ZX7 irons, while Colin Morikawa is using the TM P7MC irons. Also, a related question. In a YT video with a test of the TM P7MB, the tester stated he had the lofts custom set at 2 degrees stronger, all else standard. The TM web site has a custom order template showing you can order the P7MB 7 irons with loft changes from minus 2 to plus 2 degrees. I would be interested to hear your thinking on that. If you really liked the look and feel of a muscle back blade but wanted a bit more carry, would having the loft set stronger be a good idea in your view? Have you tested a club you like best with both its standard and strengthened lofts?
Great question.
He does often say he has days where he isn't swinging as fast. He is, after all, in an outdoor bay in northern england. Those early Penrith mornings won't help a loose swing that's for sure!
#3 @ 20 deg. ZX5 & ZX7 is available in US market.
Plan on pairing these with the cbx2 Wedges. Any thoughts or chance you post the from address?
Thats what I did 5 to PW ZX5 and 48 52 56 CBX2
from what i saw.....ill keep my 765s
How would you compare the ZX5 to the Z585?
This is what I want to know.
The bad - they aren't even on the USA website yet.
Which is softer, ZX7 or Wilson Staff CB? Head to head comparison?
Excellent!! A comparison with the JPX921 range would be very appreciated. Thx
Coming soon!
I'm currently using Z585/Z785 combo .....I've grown tired of the sound/ feel difference between the two and was looking at a possible upgrade to full 5-pw of the ZX7.....but not sure if the ZX7 is enough of a change and I just might add the Z785 5, 6 irons or actually contemplating the sub 70 699 irons......have had a chance to try those?
in talks with them to review so fingers crossed
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I'm completely in love with my Z785 + Z585 combo set. Think the old z785 looks better than the new ZX7.
Waiting for these to come out so those go on sale lol
Same here! I combo mine, 585 5&6 iron & 7,8,9,P 785 with RTX-4 wedges. Oh yeah, 785 driver & 3&4 u65 driving irons.
👍👍👍
Concerning the top edge, you can have a thicker top line, but give it the appearance of thinner, simply by beveling and shaping. Why don’t more designers do that?
Good shout!
Any chance of seeing a ZX4 review soon?
Still waiting for it to arrive!
How would a combo set work if you have 2 different feeling and sounding irons
That's how every combo set is. It's No different than going from hybrid to irons or irons to wedges.
I found Mizuno mp range was close but that is the only set I have ever combed
@@ccmorgan53 yeah I've had a few combo sets. Ap1/ap2 combo. Srixon 585/785 combo. Having different sound or feel never bothered me because my driver doesn't sound like my woods and my hybrid doesn't sound like my irons and my irons don't sound like my wedges. Even using different golf ball drastically changed the feel and sound of clubs. But I always wanted performance first vs sound or feel but i guess not everyone thinks the same way as me.
If you were playing the 765s would you make the change to the ZX 7 or 5s ?
ZX7 is the newer version of the 765 or 785’s
I wouldn't. Don't think they are much different in terms of performance. Also the new looks aren't as nice as previous models
Can see the sole of the ZX5's 6 and 5 irons at address..
Interesting about the sound, but you are getting lot of sound bouncing off those hard walls, a lot of traffic noise adding to this distorting what you hear? In a golf course environment sound perception of the ball coming off the face would be a lot different?
The driving range is situated 500 yards from busy A road & approx 2000 yards from motorway, can’t help that noise unfortunately
Is it just your camera resolution, or is the finish on these different than the prior models? These seem less smooth than before. I certainly prefer the looks of the prior Z 585 and Z 785.
in what way?
@Chester I know what you mean - they have the look of a plastic toy gun that’s been ‘chromed’ to me 😁 nowhere near as nice as Mizuno/TM/Titleist for finish judging by this
I love srixon, I have gamed two different versions of their irons, but these just aren’t doing it for me with the looks. The previous generations have been kind of classic club with modern twist, these are out and out modern. It’ll look good to some but it’s all just gone a bit too far for me. I think they will date really quickly. I’m sure they perform great but the styling rules them out for me.
I agree. That toe area on the back is way too busy. Hurts my head just looking at it.
I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw these new ones!
Michael, is the ZX5 head larger/more substantial then the prior version Z585?
No similar soze
Size
ZX5 Replaces Z585 - ZX7 Replaces Z785.No deafferents only the looks.. I'll keep my Z Forge blades..
z785 vs zx7
I wish they would make a true players iron that had a thinner top line and no offset. Just can’t get into these big chunky with lots of offset Irons.
They do. Srixon z forged. Pure blade
Every club has offset. I don't think there's a single OEM with an iron that has no offset.
These are also no where near being big or chunky
why... did you mute the sound...
Did I?
Geez, that crack is not inviting at all. Much respected brand. Bit of a shame.
Why do you call it "zed x 7 instead of zx7?
probably my accent
Every club you test "sounds a little bit clicky". It's your ball that is clicky, rather than the clubs. TP5X is the "clickiest" premium ball there is.
If that were the case, both sets would have sounded clicky, but he clearly stated that the zx7 sounded quite different.
i found the z star xv clicker
No way these irons had the same shaft in them resulting in such a huge dispersion difference. Pull the heads, swap the shafts and do the test again starting with the ZX7.
The bad for me is they are Dunlop clubs that say Srixon on them. I don't aspire to play Dunlop clubs. Although there is a Cleveland 58 degree wedge I used to have, and miss.
That a pretty dumbflop comment of yours" you should really research dunlop and the different industries that it actually plays a major role in. #idiot
That top line is rather beefy
Good review but these are a big miss....
Why did you not mention that Srixon raised the price 30% over the Z585 & Z785 $ 999.00 VS % 1299.00 USD. They definitely lost the Best Bang for the buck story by doing that.
I don't like the looks of these. This is srixons worst iron offering in several years in my opinion. I think I'll stick with my Z765s and maybe buy some z785s on discount in the future.
I can tell you’re trying to reduce the : ‘SORT OF’ perpetual repetition, which spoils the analysis because it’s so distracting. At least it’s not every other word now. So, well done and keep trying as it is appreciated.
You're obsessed with clicks. Can a mid handicapper notice clicks more than any other club?
Are the clubs excessively expensive, like a Mizuno, Taylormade, Titleist. "Good shot though..." that is what we want to hear.
You know the ZX5 isn’t a forged head? You should. Do your homework.