i found this video searching an answer to this very question 2 months ago,still usefull therefore even 3 years later. So now i own those 2 pens,i can say Metro medium write like a VP fine.same lines same flow.
my twsbi fine steel nib produces a slightly thinner line than my pilot fine steel nib. Maybe it's a one off but I was pleasantly surprised and very happy :-D
i own a vanishing point with a fine "Special Alloy nib" nib ( not the gold 18k nibs,) it writes like a Pilot metropolitan fine. The Special alloy steel nibs are common in japan. I think the the gold material used in the 18k/24k nibs makes the pen write a bit wider and with line variation. so if you like a capless that writes like a metro, then buy a special alloy version.
Hey Brian I'm a student in high school and I'm wondering what is the best nib option for the pilot vanishing point. I'm debating between the fine and medium. Since I'm using school paper ( which is thin and cheap) what is probably the best nib size? Thanks!
I'd definitely go with a fine nib on the VP. If you look at our Nib Nook (www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook), there's a big jump in thickness to the medium nib which wouldn't be good for the lower quality paper. - Colin
So, if the person who's asking the question wants something finer than the Metropolitan (MP) fine, they would not get the Vanishing Point (VP) fine because it produces a bit of a wider line than the MP fine. I'm guessing they may want the VP extra fine if what they want is a VP having a finer line than the Metropolitan fine. My question has more to do with feedback than with line width. I find the MP fine to be a bit toothy. Can anyone at GPC say whether the VP fine gold nib gives the same amount of feedback as the MP fine steel nib? I own both a VP and Decimo with medium nibs and find they produce a more broader line than I would have liked. I understand that different people will have different opinions. I'll take even a general comparison. Thank you in advance.
i've noticed that EF nibs on Platinum Preppy are a bit broader than Pilot Penmanship EF. Did i get a Platinum nib grinded a bit thicker than usual or Platinum nibs tend to write more like a Pilot fine nib as in my case? thank you
Hi guys, I think having a retractable fountain pen is a radical if not scandalous thought. It's so unconventional, and the thought that it won't dry out without a cap is still a bit tough to digest for me. I work daily in a white coat and write shortly but frequently. My question is whether it's risky to clip it to my shiny white coat, risking ink spill from the uncapped nib, especially when I'm having rather vigorous physical movement (a lot of fast walking and bending over). I know that some pen spring out their ink rather easily into the cap (eg. my pilot custom 74). Can you inform me more on this? Better yet if you can please put this in one of your Q and A. Thanks!
I'll definitely add this to our Q&A spreadsheet for next week! That said, I think you should be alright. As long as everything is installed correctly (converter/cartridge), I don't see ink dripping to be a problem, at least not through the trapdoor opening. I have heard of the door spritzing ink out when you click to open it, so that may be more of a concern. - Colin
awesome! thanks! looking forward to seeing you guys discuss this :) much appreciated. I live in Indonesia by the way. The Pilots are easily available from local distributors here while the lamys got a heavy import burden, Lamy 2000 is priced twice the US or japanese retail price. So Pilots are more popular here.
Yeah, that's definitely unique. If you check out our Nib Nook (www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook) you can compare the two. Metro definitely gives a finer line by our experiences. Not sure why yours is different. - Colin
The Goulet Pen Company Thanks so much for this helpful reply. I love the Nib Nook! The mystery continues - my Pilot VP fine is definitely much finer than the Metro fine; it looks more like the Pilot VP extra fine shown there! I wonder if it is actually an EF mislabelled as a F?
I've tried all kinds of different paper and always use the same ink, and the VP is much finer than the Metro! So I still don't understand it. I have a friend with both pens and she has had the same experience as me.
Not in the tool itself, sorry! But you can zoom in on your computer, or save the image and zoom it through your photo viewing software you have. - Colin
+Mrigank sinha I think that's pretty accurate. I have a TWSBI fine, but it's modified (custom grind), but should still be close enough to a fine. I also have a Pilot Fine, and Pilot Medium - and this sits somewhere in the middle.
In case anyone cares, I have a Pilot VP medium and a Pilot Metropolitan medium. The VP nib is slightly wider and MUCH wetter.
Thanks Steven, this is exactly the answer I was looking for. How much would you say it is wider than the Metropolitan?
My VP fine is as thick and my Metropolitan medium
5 years late lol. When I ordered the medium I was expecting a Japanese style medium, but boy was I wrong. It was a wet Boi lol so I got another fine
i found this video searching an answer to this very question 2 months ago,still usefull therefore even 3 years later. So now i own those 2 pens,i can say Metro medium write like a VP fine.same lines same flow.
This video was so helpful! I have two Metropolitan mediums and was torn between a fine and medium Decimo. I think I'll be going with the fine.
Kari Livingston what did you end up choosing? I find the fine to be hair thin- in fact I use a broad on my VP.
my twsbi fine steel nib produces a slightly thinner line than my pilot fine steel nib. Maybe it's a one off but I was pleasantly surprised and very happy :-D
Wow...I think you got lucky there :) -Brian
i own a vanishing point with a fine "Special Alloy nib" nib ( not the gold 18k nibs,) it writes like a Pilot metropolitan fine. The Special alloy steel nibs are common in japan. I think the the gold material used in the 18k/24k nibs makes the pen write a bit wider and with line variation. so if you like a capless that writes like a metro, then buy a special alloy version.
Hey Brian I'm a student in high school and I'm wondering what is the best nib option for the pilot vanishing point. I'm debating between the fine and medium. Since I'm using school paper ( which is thin and cheap) what is probably the best nib size? Thanks!
I'd definitely go with a fine nib on the VP. If you look at our Nib Nook (www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook), there's a big jump in thickness to the medium nib which wouldn't be good for the lower quality paper. - Colin
So, if the person who's asking the question wants something finer than the Metropolitan (MP) fine, they would not get the Vanishing Point (VP) fine because it produces a bit of a wider line than the MP fine. I'm guessing they may want the VP extra fine if what they want is a VP having a finer line than the Metropolitan fine.
My question has more to do with feedback than with line width. I find the MP fine to be a bit toothy. Can anyone at GPC say whether the VP fine gold nib gives the same amount of feedback as the MP fine steel nib? I own both a VP and Decimo with medium nibs and find they produce a more broader line than I would have liked. I understand that different people will have different opinions. I'll take even a general comparison. Thank you in advance.
i've noticed that EF nibs on Platinum Preppy are a bit broader than Pilot Penmanship EF. Did i get a Platinum nib grinded a bit thicker than usual or Platinum nibs tend to write more like a Pilot fine nib as in my case? thank you
Hi guys, I think having a retractable fountain pen is a radical if not scandalous thought. It's so unconventional, and the thought that it won't dry out without a cap is still a bit tough to digest for me. I work daily in a white coat and write shortly but frequently. My question is whether it's risky to clip it to my shiny white coat, risking ink spill from the uncapped nib, especially when I'm having rather vigorous physical movement (a lot of fast walking and bending over). I know that some pen spring out their ink rather easily into the cap (eg. my pilot custom 74). Can you inform me more on this? Better yet if you can please put this in one of your Q and A. Thanks!
I'll definitely add this to our Q&A spreadsheet for next week! That said, I think you should be alright. As long as everything is installed correctly (converter/cartridge), I don't see ink dripping to be a problem, at least not through the trapdoor opening. I have heard of the door spritzing ink out when you click to open it, so that may be more of a concern. - Colin
awesome! thanks! looking forward to seeing you guys discuss this :) much appreciated. I live in Indonesia by the way. The Pilots are easily available from local distributors here while the lamys got a heavy import burden, Lamy 2000 is priced twice the US or japanese retail price. So Pilots are more popular here.
That's so strange - I've had the exact opposite experience; my VP fine is much finer than my Metropolitan fines. I wonder why?
Yeah, that's definitely unique. If you check out our Nib Nook (www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook) you can compare the two. Metro definitely gives a finer line by our experiences. Not sure why yours is different. - Colin
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Thanks so much for this helpful reply. I love the Nib Nook! The mystery continues - my Pilot VP fine is definitely much finer than the Metro fine; it looks more like the Pilot VP extra fine shown there! I wonder if it is actually an EF mislabelled as a F?
+Vegan Organizer Try using the same ink & paper on the two pen let's see the difference.
I've tried all kinds of different paper and always use the same ink, and the VP is much finer than the Metro! So I still don't understand it. I have a friend with both pens and she has had the same experience as me.
Me too. my vp is finer than the metro. I got the vp from a Japanese seller. could that be the difference?
Can I enlarge the picture in "Nib Nook"? the original size is quite small for comparing difference nib :)
Not in the tool itself, sorry! But you can zoom in on your computer, or save the image and zoom it through your photo viewing software you have. - Colin
I think TWSBI fine is between pilot fine and medium .
+Mrigank sinha I think that's pretty accurate. I have a TWSBI fine, but it's modified (custom grind), but should still be close enough to a fine. I also have a Pilot Fine, and Pilot Medium - and this sits somewhere in the middle.
Hello, do you think that your company could send me a fountin pen to try out? - Mason Brandes
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