The First 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429 - Muscle Car Of The Week Episode 360

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  • @jeremythompson9122
    @jeremythompson9122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm a Mopar guy but it doesn't get too much better than a Raven Black Boss 429. Install a big 850 cfm carburetor in place of the stock 735 cfm unit, a more radical solid lifter camshaft(the 429 SCJ solid lifter cam would be a good choice), headers, and advance the timing and you've got a low 12 second car or better in the 1/4 mile. They came from the factory with a way too small 735 cfm carburetor, a way too mild hydraulic camshaft, and a really restrictive exhaust system with a smog pump. That was probably Ford just trying to make the Boss9 more street friendly but it really did hurt their performance. But it didn't take much work at all to turn the Boss 429 into a fire breathing monster. Love this car

  • @loucostabile
    @loucostabile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great education. Thank you as I learned some things.

    • @louiskats5116
      @louiskats5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Lou,
      Louis from Australia

  • @nurialco3303
    @nurialco3303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That is a perfect mustang right there

  • @UnityMotorSportsGarage
    @UnityMotorSportsGarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It was worth the wait on the video!!! What an amazing Car!

  • @unknownporker
    @unknownporker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Listening to the technical aspects and history are always so cool! Not just the pretty paint and too-well placed decals, paint markings from the inspectors, etc.

  • @thefettfan3994
    @thefettfan3994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This terrific auto video presentation demonstrates and really proves there is a dedicated art in the construction of the muscle performance combustion engine, without a doubt!!!

  • @breezy0037
    @breezy0037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OUTSTANDING!!!!!

  • @Scott-to8ri
    @Scott-to8ri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Funny how daily inexpensive (for the time) muscle cars are now a rich mans game.

  • @davidlyall1030
    @davidlyall1030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At that place in time, I was a committed racer, originally wanting to be a NASCAR driver. But by my 20's, I already had a family going, which became very high on my list. So, I never left home to join "The Circus. At the time of "The Boss", I was raising 3 kids, working at Ford Engineering, and racing 2 and 3 times a week. Having trouble managing my time, I needed a time accumulator, a second race car to even out the Maintenace time. Along came Ford with the additional car, the KK1213 car. I took over a year to get the Boss engine, by now installed in my 1st '69 car, to outperform the 427 Tunnel Port, which set my career back signifyingly. The 1st car was not a boss, but I did the Bill Stroppe engine bay conversion when I prepared the car, so it could fit any engine. I used the KK1213 car for NHRA racing, and the 1st '69 for AHRA and Match Racing, as it was lighter, quicker and faster. I sold both cars at the end of the '70 season, as Ford announced they were pulling out of racing. My racing only made financial sense to me with $1 cars and free parts, and I had a family to support, so I sold everything, and used the proceeds to start my own businesses. I was never emotionally attached to my race cars, seeing them only as "Tools". As i never had an emotional connection to the KK1213 Mustang, I am not emotionally involved with the topic of this conversation. I was pleased when a previous owner restored it 1969 Period-Correct. The thing about owning something, it's yours to do width. As far as there being an historic responsibility to maintain some things as they originally were, I guess that is the debate here. Dave Lyall

  • @catsandcarsringtailgang6188
    @catsandcarsringtailgang6188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Junk yard in Minnesota I Vividly remember seeing a mustang less than 100 miles on it(as young man) Looked like it had been rolled twice. Distinctive valve covers with plug releafs. HANDS OFF SIGNS all iver it. Hood buckled, could see engine, trunk open. Empty case of beer & booze bottles there. Prob a total then. I do hope it was put back together.

  • @jeremymurphy7320
    @jeremymurphy7320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Most guys: "This is gonna be expensive, where can we save some $?"
    Level One: "Let's just buy another Boss 429 as a parts car"

  • @johnwilkerson2195
    @johnwilkerson2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Boss 429s Mustangs were cool cars

  • @CMA5450
    @CMA5450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely beautiful.

  • @bradpittman5075
    @bradpittman5075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That’s awesome. I really wish ford would have just kept the 429 boss and the 351 Cleveland as the staple engines. One thing that ford has seemed to always do is make a bunch of different v8s instead of one small block base and one big block base like Chev did. There is goods and bads of that but it would have been cool for a ford head like me to see Cleveland headed stuff in place of the Windsor stuff. I love Windsor’s and have a forged 393 but I am just dreaming. They did the same stuff with the modulars. A zillion different varients. I am glad they stapled down with the coyote. Bc I think it’s a really killer engine. Anyways. God bless.

  • @phillight352
    @phillight352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the story behind these old cars if they could talk they would say this is what it was like back in the day.

  • @rogerbrandt6678
    @rogerbrandt6678 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a Chevy guy, but a beauty is a beauty.

  • @jimgack7019
    @jimgack7019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait to hit the lottery to buy one.

  • @wadeadams9471
    @wadeadams9471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My father had a 1969 Mach 1 428 Cobra Jet he had to drag pack for Speed White flat black Hood red interior for Speed had cobra snakes decals on the fenders thick black racing stripe on each side of the car with a red racing stripe on the bottom and top of the black racing stripe that's my favorite car of all time

  • @wjnahuy
    @wjnahuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always good to see American muscle...I may be a mustang club member since 74 75 wish but I not sure if I am in a book or not.

  • @roryvonbrutt7302
    @roryvonbrutt7302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Freaking old school detroit when they really cared wow that is so impressive

  • @arkhsm
    @arkhsm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many fantastic small details, you need to be like an automotive Sherlock Holmes !!

  • @bgh70
    @bgh70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The car next to it was built as a replica of how this car looked when it was raced. It would have been nice to get a little bit of the story behind that car. I wonder which KK car was used as the parts car? There was a very nice original unrestored '69 Boss 9 car in Madisonville KY a few years ago that was sold at auction. I got to see the car a few times, and I worked with the owner's son for a few years. I wonder where it is now.

    • @Hahatengocaradequeme
      @Hahatengocaradequeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ideally, they used the non-stock parts on the donor car, making it a replica of KK1213 in "as raced" condition. It makes sense, avoids throwing away a real 429 (It also makes it more historically and economically valuable), and it pays homage to the race history of 1213. Hopefully they will shed some light on the matter.

    • @jecst45
      @jecst45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Hahatengocaradequeme I agree, hopefully they used the parts car to make the race version, but the should’ve put the 1970 front end on it so it would have the true “as raced” appearance.

    • @LevelOneGary
      @LevelOneGary 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct sir.

  • @whicker59
    @whicker59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I could only go back to 1965 and go til 1970 models again. I'd rent a warehouse and buy/store all the immortal muscle cars from then. Even if I didn't drive them, I'd love to look at them.

  • @genefortney9133
    @genefortney9133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful!

  • @aptorres01
    @aptorres01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @vox1966
    @vox1966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about the ford 1970 Xl fast back I have one I am restoring so cool welding new quarter panels on engine is awesome

  • @peterkay2406
    @peterkay2406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty car!

  • @rogerbrandt6678
    @rogerbrandt6678 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this guy have his own channel, he’s a genius. 5:33

  • @georgeharleydavidsonrider156
    @georgeharleydavidsonrider156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful. Hemi. Ford . 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @deanschwabe1226
    @deanschwabe1226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice car

  • @charlesatwell6658
    @charlesatwell6658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is a white one in va. that is original right down to hoses and tires and the owner does occasionally drive it to car shows. It's funny to watch people nit pick it because of its blemishes, and the ogle the Mach 1 sitting next to it because it is prettier with its stripes and slats, etc. not realizing the Boss 9 is worth 3 times more.

  • @bakfixx
    @bakfixx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super interesting.

  • @jeffreyjohn2037
    @jeffreyjohn2037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The guy in white t shirt reminds me of the late great Bobby Gatzen.

  • @millerlite502
    @millerlite502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll take one or two.

  • @bobbysanders7725
    @bobbysanders7725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wouldn`t have changed the color. It came from Ford as a white car. This was just a devious way to best the #KK1214 car by taking a race car and turning it into a street car which it was not. If I owned the #14 car I would be pissed. That being said my favorite Mustang is the 69 and I don`t care what engine it has. I like the Boss 302 best tho.

  • @livewire2759
    @livewire2759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've never been a Mustang fan, I always thought they were overrated, and ford guys in general (at least the ones I know) are some of the most arrogant car guys, but if I ever had to choose a Ford to own, it would be a BOSS 429 Mustang. That engine truly is an engineering marvel on par with the Chrysler HEMI.

    • @CoyoteFTW
      @CoyoteFTW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Live Wire - oh stfu the only arrogant pricks are chebby guys poor fellas have a huge self esteem issue

    • @gregorytimmons4777
      @gregorytimmons4777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Buddy Wiser In what way? Poorly engineered and executed compared to Mopar Hemi cars and Boss 429's never dominated at the drag strip over Mopar Hemi cars. The cars didn't drive as good as the 426 cars and the Boss 429 was not an engine compatable with nitro. Maintainance was a nightmare with that thing crammed in there. So tell me, how was the engineering on the Boss 429 superior to Chrysler Corp. Hemi cars? Everybody knows that Mopars of the 1960's were the most engineered cars. I don't even think many Ford guys believe Ford's with their shock towers were engineered nearly as well as Mopars with torsion bar suspension. Mustangs would have been better cars than they were if they had left the big block out of them and made the Boss 351 a couple years earlier and had that as the top engine choice. Honestly, stuff like 429 Mustangs probably hastened the end of the muscle car era. Imagine any insurance under writer looking under the hood of a Boss '9, ostensibly sold as a street car by Ford and not thought it somewhat ridiculous. If you read the period road tests the Boss 429 Mustang as delivered was not delivering dominating performance on the drag strip. The engine was designed to battle the Hemi in NASCAR. Designed for WOT operation around super speedways. Gargantuan ports for the street or strip in terms of getting out of the hole that just knocked the stump pulling low end torque out of the engine. Under carbed and cammed. They were a bit underwhelming as delivered for the potential that they never really lived up to. Their value is directly related to the rarity. That said, they certainly look impressive in a 33'4 Ford Coupe with a tunnel ram or blower set up. Ford really screwed the pooch cramming an engine built for NASCAR in a Mustang. Totally illogical move. Should have gone into Torino's and Cyclone's. I'm not a brand fan boy. I just love cars and there are Ford's I'd dearly love to own that I thought were great cars. I can't really admire a Boss 429 Mustang as a well thought out and executed car in terms of practicality, performance in the real world or drivability.

    • @CoyoteFTW
      @CoyoteFTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gregorytimmons4777 - they sure kicked 426 ass in Nascar which is what it was designed to do. Bob glidden also won ALOT with one. Ford didn’t need the 429 on the drag strip the SOHC was enough! An engine Ford designed in 90 days! Imagine if they actually gave a damn! And perfected the design! Hell Ed pink said the SOHC was better. And also article titled Heavy Breathers. They concluded the SOHC had way more potential. Don’t you remember that’s the ONLY engine in HISTORY. To ever win IHRA, NHRA and AHRA top fuel. One and only ever triple crown in top fuel racing. Did the 426 hemi do that?? The 426 has become so overhyped it’s ridiculous. Shame Ford didn’t instal it into production vehicles. Hell, Ford didn’t install their best engines in any production vehicle. Dodge did we are all familiar with how good they are mis 13’s at best. Yet the 428cj, 427fe and 429 boss. Can go toe to toe. With anything else in Detroit. Stop spewing factless propaganda

    • @donjennings9034
      @donjennings9034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to work in an auto parts store and the absolute worst customer, the ones that made you want to run to the back of the store were Corvette owners. Most of them were arrogant and didn't know one thing about cars.

    • @donjennings9034
      @donjennings9034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CoyoteFTW Right on, brother!

  • @richiebeecoolstories3884
    @richiebeecoolstories3884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why are they showing vintage pics of 70' Mustangs, while standing in front of 69s',and saying they're the same car. Anyone else catch it??????

    • @markg7030
      @markg7030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the front was changed to make it look like a 70 when raced in 70. Good catch!

    • @WisdomOverWicked777Rules
      @WisdomOverWicked777Rules 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markg7030 WHY???? WHATS THE POINT???

  • @markwegner6100
    @markwegner6100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw it @MCACN, 2019.

  • @clooperman3745
    @clooperman3745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @edge2sword186
    @edge2sword186 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a Maroon 1969 Boss 429 we knew of in the Rochester New York area that the owner over heated the engine badly and so he brought it in to a friends shop and we took the heads off to see why the thing ran so bad . The shop owner called Holman Moody for help on replacing the heads and they said to use Silicone bathtub caulk to hold all the O-Rings on the head when putting them back on . The car didn't run any different because I believe the rings were shot from the heat . Meanwnhile another Ford shop talked the owner into putting a 289 hypo in and got the original Boss 429 engine . I always wondered where that car ended up ?

  • @cobracharmer6178
    @cobracharmer6178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And the winner is!.... 1969 Talladega!!

  • @DeanBenson-p5n
    @DeanBenson-p5n ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the build date on your Boss 429?

  • @rossmartens
    @rossmartens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first boss 429 I believe to be the mid engine prototype and let's hope 🙏 it comes to life again

  • @fredmiller6482
    @fredmiller6482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Boss 429 parts car??? WHAAT!

  • @fredbates7693
    @fredbates7693 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1. Take the parts car and make it into a race car with the parts they pulled off this one.
    2. Drive the mint Boss 429 through a Cleveland snowstorm. Why? '' I'm jealous!

  • @myfordranger
    @myfordranger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn that is sweet

  • @DeanBenson-p5n
    @DeanBenson-p5n ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a 69 Boss 429. KK 1234 with a build date of Jan. 24 1969. Color was Black Jade

  • @timatkinson9291
    @timatkinson9291 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quiet a history behind those cars.

  • @enemyofmyenemy6713
    @enemyofmyenemy6713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey where's the other MCW host?? the muscle car encyclopedia

  • @johna1160
    @johna1160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The brake booster is shorter and taller". Say what???

    • @kurtmillard5904
      @kurtmillard5904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea, it sounded funny, until he explained himself; the booster is shorter, but is positioned higher than stock, in order to clear the valve cover.

  • @davedavis775
    @davedavis775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oldsmobile used a rear sway bar on the early 442's years before the Boss 429.

    • @413x398
      @413x398 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Undereducated hosts.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was an option on most cars back then...

  • @GreenCrim
    @GreenCrim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm conflicted about using another 429 as a parts car. I just tell myself that it wasn't 100% original when they got it and they replaced the bits they took with repops so it could live.

  • @giannirocco7492
    @giannirocco7492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had a '69 Mustang with that engine,car could melt rear tires all day long!

  • @rodneyharouff5739
    @rodneyharouff5739 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool!

  • @loucaruso3971
    @loucaruso3971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All The Years Mustang, Had Compet, With Mopar, e.t.c, Carrol Shelby, With Big Blocks Had 427, 428, CJ, & All His Knowledge, After Mustangs, Cobras,..69, 70, Ford Took So Much Of His Knowledge, Built Basically A Shelby,..BOSS Was Ford, So 429 Boss, Keep ##s Down & 69, 70, Particularly Mustang Gourgous Lookin Car, Did'nt. Have To Put Shelbys Name On Or Pay Him For Any Of It !!!! Shelby Went 1 More Year, & End Of Shelbys,...That"s Business !!!! Stay Strong....Peace

  • @jeffreyjohn2037
    @jeffreyjohn2037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he get that wig from Jackie Mason?

  • @mrtn2842
    @mrtn2842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mustang 🐴 429 all day long because it’s more rare & valuable than any Mopar out there right now …
    Now to use and beat the tar out of it daily, I select hemi Mopar because of Mopar durability and many availability of parts..

  • @jfitz6561
    @jfitz6561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not that anyone really cares, but Boss 429 was not the first American car to utilize a rear anti-sway bar. Oldsmobile used them on 442 prior to Boss 429, and that car may not have even been the first.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I thought rear anti-roll bars were an option on most mid1960's cars... although they seemed to be seen more often on 442s...

  • @Danny-e5n
    @Danny-e5n หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:03 Boss

  • @cody123mph
    @cody123mph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So they killed a mustang to save a mustang?

    • @francfurian8215
      @francfurian8215 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get it but it’s sacrilege!

    • @LevelOneGary
      @LevelOneGary 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Race Car sitting next to 1213 is in fact the parts car. It has the original engine and transmission. It won't be too tough to put it back someday if someone chooses. I forget the KK# but it is a Red S code.

  • @TheFokker03
    @TheFokker03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd still have a '69 CJ Mach 1 over a Boss 9 any day.

  • @steve6992
    @steve6992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw several zip ties under the hood, what is that all about?

  • @aspenyukon6845
    @aspenyukon6845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This sounds like a vin swap after kk1213 was raced and stripped of its original parts.

  • @erickort1987
    @erickort1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir,i have a request of a car you must do a video on..1973 chevelle baldwin motion,i read it was the most expensive baldwin motion car

  • @rugerrocker7483
    @rugerrocker7483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should educate muscle car of the week because they say carcraft did it all.

  • @raymondminich5462
    @raymondminich5462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would take this car that had a 50 year history as a race car and change it back to a stock street car

  • @ChasingDifferentAdventures
    @ChasingDifferentAdventures 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To bad there won't be anymore Muscle Cars, when the 4 door variant Mach E is sold retail. Millennials at Ford don't have respect for Mustang's iconic Historical Automotive heritage value. All past, present, and future Mustang's will be removed from the Muscle car segment shared with the Challenger and Camaro. Seen a new 2021 Camaro Wagon with 4 doors. I guess Millennials are to young and didn't get the memo that the Dodge Magnum failed.

  • @richardcarr6493
    @richardcarr6493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    HOPEFULLY YOU RESTORE THE OTHER 429BOSS YOU TRASHED TO MAKE THIS ONE

  • @ronaldrose6885
    @ronaldrose6885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if shinoda knew???

  • @toomanyhobbies2011
    @toomanyhobbies2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who cares when the car was made. I suppose collectors think this makes it really unique, which could be said about any car.

  • @lukeworrell8479
    @lukeworrell8479 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great cars but I feel like nobody would ever wanna drive them or experience them that much, id rather just buy a Mach 1 and not worry about driving it all the time

  • @chrishollett1192
    @chrishollett1192 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because l love u and the way u look tonight

  • @louiskats5116
    @louiskats5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should of put the Boss under the Torino's & Mercury equivalent.
    Under the Mustang just too tight of a fit & never got the full potential out, restricted exhaust.

    • @tomtucker8849
      @tomtucker8849 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We had a 70 Mercury Cyclone with a 429CJ installed. It was a good car.

    • @louiskats5116
      @louiskats5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomtucker8849
      That would of been an awesome ride. Mercury always living in the shadow of the Torino. But 1 thing for sure Mercury had alot classic style than the Torino especially 68 & 69.
      Very rare to see one here in Australia

  • @paultully3041
    @paultully3041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so what happened to the parts car... Boooo ! shoulda left it and restored it as a drag car, thats the biggest part of it's history, wouldn't be happy about butchering another one just so i could say "well this ones earlier than that one"

  • @coloradoray1
    @coloradoray1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First!

  • @413x398
    @413x398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not buying white zip ties used on the shock tower braces (did Roadkill restore this car?), black paint on master cylinder AND its cover, excessive high gloss paint underhood, especially the top of the radiator. And that placard that says: 1213 How it would of looked..." It's would HAVE looked, you illiterate English butchers. Otherwise, nifty cars. Let's see the rest of them. In detail.

  • @MarlonDeanMcQueen
    @MarlonDeanMcQueen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rarest color? Not even close. At least for ALL BOSS 429s. Pastel Blue was the rarest color. Only eighteen made. All in 1970. I know. I owned one. Go to my Instagram @ Peeperdacat and scroll down to see photos of it (and me).

  • @mattshansen9814
    @mattshansen9814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trump in 2024

  • @clintwalker6389
    @clintwalker6389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bible flock box contradicts scripture by saying people who go to church on Sunday are going to receive the mark of the beast,Rm14:5-13

  • @jilliankarole3548
    @jilliankarole3548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The drab rest concomitantly identify because disadvantage retrospectively x-ray above a elated cicada. wide, vast factory

  • @darrenporsch
    @darrenporsch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry cars before that had rear sway bars in America. I'm not really sure what the hell he's talkin about

  • @thunderheads4103
    @thunderheads4103 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most of these Ford guys look clueless in their presentation of History LOL, just like it is when Ford Mustang drivers get on the road and behind-the-wheel the wheel next to a Mopar LOL