A Colorado mother is about to stand trial for her daughter's death. Investigators believe this case may be tied to a rare form of medical child abuse known as Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.
I cannot believe this happened at Children's hospital. So, anyone can come in and say something is going on with their child and they'll just perform a surgery? Unbelievable.
I can believe it their staff has always been neglectful towards children my daughter almost died bc of Tc Thompson children's hospital I had to threaten to sue them all just to get my daughter help.
Same thing happened to Gypsy Rose. DeeDee just walked into multiple hospitals and told them that she had numerous conditions and diseases and they just listened to her. Only one doctor tried to fact check her and it was way too late by then, she skipped town once he started asking questions. She had them perform so many surgeries on her, including on her eyes, teeth, and inserting a feeding tube in her stomach. There was nothing wrong with Gypsy in the first place. Eminem's mom just shoved pills down his throat, telling him he was sick when he wasn't. Munchausen Syndrome is a dangerous mental issue for everyone under their care.
Medical people have worked hard and are eager to practise their skills. Unfortunately getting to the root of problems has never been the focus of western medicine, rather "fixing" the symptoms. They are being given false information! It must be very confusing but hopefully they were trying to help the child. When things are this strange however, i think they should closely observe 24/7 in a hospital/rehab setting for several weeks before deciding to do a surgury, to see if the environment at home is contributing to the situation. This is a horribly tragic story.
Happens all the time. $$$$$$$$$ The last 2 years should be an eyeopener for anyone who has been ignorant about what the medical industrial complex roach motel system has done for decades $$$$$$$$$$. Sadly, this little girl is not an isolated case and operations, drugs and other treatments are prescribed that are totally UNNECESSARY. This is what happens when government (taxpayer) subsidized "healthcare" funds inflated medical costs.
I have Crohns and UC, my doctors dont even give me new medications without me having long term proof of what my symptoms are. I am terminally ill, last year i was on hospice amd was blessed enough to get better. I am stunned they allowed her mother sign a DNR, its mind blowing!!! Even with having multiple organ issues, (stage 4 cirrhosis,chronic pancreatitis with calcification,crohns with complications(severe anemia from daily internal bleeding causing me to get iron infusions and blood transfusions) i have latent TB so i am not able to take biologics), and UC. medicaid didnt want to pay for iron infusions anymore until my iron was so low that i needed to be hospitalized. Now even with all that(and more) and being 52 yrs old, i wasnt jist given up on. My hospice team was wonderful and they gave me personalized care and by the Grace of God i stabilized and am on palliative care now. There is something so very wrong here. How did these medical professions allow this to happen?! A DNR for a child??? I Hope this poor childs so called "mother" gets unnecessary surgeries,a feeding tube and starved to death...but without any narcotics.
@@samryon3615 my goodness what a plateful of long term serious health conditions without even mentioning your terminal diagnosis! I hope you manage to be pain free some of the time. I have little to complain about when I read your comment. May you be content and pain free or well managed at very least.
Yeah I definitely teared up. I’m a stickler about not making children have a bad relationship with food. I’ll admit I’m overweight but my children are not and I cannot stand even a baby saying I’m hungry. For some reason. Lol I feel I should know before They are hungry! Also, From family experience with my brother I know it’s devastating when your told your child can no longer eat by mouth and feeding tubes are put in. Sure the child is being nourished but taking away a mothers ability to feed a child, even when it’s medically necessary is devastating. Any mother to do this on her own deserves the death penalty !
@@devin7703 You make no sense. How are you going to enforce healthy eating habits and routine if YOU CANNOT? Just stop. It's food. It's always there. Grow up and knock it off. You're not in a third world country. Mcdonalds will still be here. Calm down.
So one girl is actually sick and gets ripped away from her family so hard her mother commits suicide ??? But the system is NEEDED AND NO ONE BATS AN EYE for this lil girl??? System is beyond broken
As a dietitian, I am floored that feeding tubes and TPN could be administered with no actual physical proof that Olivia wasn’t absorbing her food. The medical professionals in this case absolutely need to be held accountable for what they did, along with the mother
And she didn’t even have a diagnosis and to put DNR and remove her from tpn. I’ve been through years of testing for my dysmotality and it wasn’t until I dropped below my BMI I was placed on tpn and then I was weighed each week.
@@veritaslux644 Uh, no. The mother absolutely is guilty. She was purposely lying about the daughter's symptoms and giving her unnecessary drugs to make her seem sick. Yes, the doctors should have figured out what was happening and insisted on actual evidence of the child being sick before performing ANY treatments or surgeries. But the mother is an evil narcissist who used her child to gain sympathy, attention, and scam various organizations for money.
Doctors willing to do anything for money. They along with big pharm got America hooked on opiates, performing life changing surgeries on minors altering their reproductive capabilities and look how radical plastic surgery has become. All for profit.
Cases like this are why I think Gypsy Rose Blanchard deserved a lesser sentence. Munchausen by proxy is really dangerous and sadly fatal in many cases and no one on the outside seems to be able to help before it's too late.
I hate to say it, but while I think Gypsy's actions were justified, watching the documentary "Mommy Dead and Dearest" (I think that's what it was called), it can easily be seen that she's picked up quite a bit of her mother's manipulative, "I'm meek"/blame others personality. I know she was coached on it by her mother, but she's already a masterful artist who can easily shift all blame elsewhere and, because of what she's been through, people feel sorry for her and are quickly and easily inclined to believe her/defend her and I can see her using it to her advantage, making her a potentially _very_ dangerous person. Don't get me wrong, I am not sticking up for DeeDee or saying that that child deserved any of what her sociopathic mother put her through; I'm just saying that people really need to understand that she's not as vulnerable or innocent as she looks and people would do well to not let their guards down completely when it comes to her. I see her as someone with the potential to be a very dangerous individual- though I truly hope she won't set out to harm the world in an act of revenge for not protecting her from her mother. 😳😳 I guess we'll soon see what sort of mark she's gonna make on this world because she'll be out of prison soon- 2024 iirc!
@@lcoq19 you're right. And that's a big reason why she got the sentence she did! She planned it out and got her boyfriend to do it, which proves that she knew better but wanted to still get off the hook and be the victim. Of course, she learned that behavior from her mother, and she's still a victim, but it's not right and I'm glad the court recognized that
@@kellymcdonald3964 it is very telling when she admitted she felt more free in prison than in her own home. I have zero sympathy for sufferers of munchausen byproxy. It is literally a case of "I am going to make my kid look sick so I get attention." I am going to call this what it is; CHILD ABUSE.
Been an ER/Trauma RN for 12 years and this absolutely disgust me as a medical professional. I understand Doctors being overworked and having far more patients than usual but that is no excuse for missing blatant abuse. Yes, we are being overworked but at no point does that excuse us from reporting abuse of any kind. It's true when it comes to children we put a lot of faith in the parents to be honest considering they are the ones to witness symptoms. We only see the child a few minutes compared to the parents yet I can't see these surgeries being done without medical proof. It's truly repulsive.
Exactly! Completely incompetent.. very scary to think everyone elses lives that hospital has affected by now? How can these people be called nurses and doctors?
The hospital should take 100% of the blame? Are you kidding me right now? Yes.. I agree the hospital should be held accountable but she also had a mother that was behind ALL of this.
The sad reality is that the child’s health depends on their parents much more than it should’ve been. A lot of signs and symptoms that might be obvious in adults might be obscure in children or even unnoticeable. Parents’ word weigh much more than the child’s in most the cases.
This poor grandpa. He feels so much guilt and he shouldn’t. Her mother would never have allowed him to step in. This story makes me sick. This is outright torture.
He has zero responsibility here. The hospital however.... are supposed to be trained to understand medical issues, and to detect fraud, and are bound by policy to report child abuse. If I walked into the ER complaining of pain and asking for pain killers they'd accuse me of drug seeking. Yet they missed this? They are 100% just as guilty as the mother.
That happened to my son, ot took him actually having a tonic clonic seizure and being taken away in an ambulance in front of a disability accessor for him to be believed and get disability benefit
@@christiangasior4244 I would have to agree. From my experience that doctor might not even wanted to do it. Whenever you have a problem parent like this, nobody really wants them under their care and technically he/she could have refused but someone would have eventually had to accept. It’s a tough call, but a worse one to make when the ethics teams has sided with the parent too!
@@maxxedtfout it’s hard to believe this happened and nobody caught this before it was too late. Makes me sick to the stomach. I really hope they learn from these cases not to just take a mothers word as gospel. But yeah they were negligent whereas the mother was just plain evil.
@@christiangasior4244 spot on. I hope so too. This baby was still so innocent, sweet, and happy, this outcome is completely shameful. There were a lot of red flags here, like treating without accessing prior records is just indefensible.
I don't know what's most horrifying: the fact that a child's mother slowly and intentionally watched her child die, or that a hospital did all those invasive surgeries without actually examining the child to see if she actually needed them or not.
Must be a military doctor🤣😂... THEY SUCK!!! When my son's Pediatrician (military) said he needed a G-tube for feeding and the doctor was willing to do it without any other testing it shocked me! I requested for them to do a gastric stomach emptying test they looked at me like I was insane. I refused to allow the (military) doctor's to treat my son until other test were done. After almost 3 months of arguing with me they did a nuclear gastric emptying test and it turned out he has gastroparesis (paralyzed stomach muscle) and he was aspirating on food that was everything less than milkshake thickness and he did need a G-tube because he was not absorbing nutrition at all. At a year old my son only weighed 11 pounds 4 ounces. Needless to say yes doctor's will do surgeries that are not necessary just to make a buck.
So the mom was allowed to plead out and have the murder charge tossed out? Seriously? Plus she took over $100,000 in donations and all she got was 16 years in prison? Shameful.
Just think of people who needed the help that went to a mom who was deceitful about her child's health....some children could use wheelchair ramps etc.....
Soooo…she died by starvation??? They drugged her up with narcotics so she wouldn’t be alert, saying “I’m hungry”. And just let her waste away, for 3 weeks!? How can a doctor sign off on that!
It's called VSED. It's supposed to be for terminal illnesses when death is expected within 6 months. Still awful but the law states if the person says "I'm hungry" "I'm thirsty" they're supposed to get it. I don't know if because she was a minor mom had to approve it anyway (probably) but that's a huge reason children shouldn't be ever put on it. I don't really like the idea for anyone, but if someone of a right mind who's an adult makes the choice it's much different than a parent doing it to a child especially a child with no terminal illness!
Umm my grandma tried to do that and the nursing home put her in the hospital and put in an IV. My aunt's who are nurses went in and made them stop doing it because my grandma was like over 80 or 90 and didn't want to be here anymore. She wasn't eating anyway or barely she was in a lot of pain and junk. This is sad for this little girl.
I had cancer at 10 years old. A lot of the same surgeries. I was on TPN. it was torture. Actually hell. I couldn’t imagine purposely inflicting that on a child.
i can. it's called sociopathic tendencies. everyone has some to certain extents. in this case, the psycho mom had lack of empathy for her daughter because she saw being viewed as a saint by others more important than her daughter's welfare. that's how munchausen syndrome by proxy works.
Didn’t you hear? The hospital used the poor child for the front face for cancer donation, hospital made 3 million dollars. No wonder you barely hear about this case probably hospital paying off to silence this case from media.
I think they have to be careful on that one, because a legal precedent could be extremely harmful. For example, I have severe panic attacks, but none of my doctors have witnessed one. They have prescribed me emergency medicine for panic attacks, because they have to trust that I'm telling the truth. Or maybe you get a stomach bug, spend the whole night throwing up, and in the morning go seek medical help because you still feel sick, but stopped vomiting. The doctors might not see you throwing up, so they trust that you're telling the truth. If they legally attack the hospital using this thought process of you can't prescribe medication until you observe the symptoms, that can lead to some future messy court cases of medical negligence.
Oh my gosh, my stomach is in knots. They basically removed her feeding tube and starved her to death for 3 weeks. That poor grandfather when she told him she was hungry. This is gut wrenching. Everyone failed this poor sweet girl
That's Hospice for you. My husband would never put me in Hospice. He watched Hospice tell his aunt to stop giving any liquid to his grandmother so she would die. She only had pneumonia, but unfortunately, she also had cancer and she was in her 80's, so she was basically deemed expendable. We were so upset. It took three days and she passed on. We couldn't do anything, as she was under Hospice care and the aunt's care! I've also heard of a Hospice starvation case. It's unconscionable. I don't think most people understand that Hospice does these things (occasionally, at the very least - possibly more than I know, as I don't work for them). But to withhold WATER. That's the most miserable thing I can imagine.
@@walkingnarrow8574 you are correct! I’m a CNA. I work alongside Hospice teams very often. They tell us to not give any water after a certain point in time- or they will suggest using a sponge to wet the mouth and lips. I must say that MY team and I give our residents as much water as they will consume until they pass away. It’s a very hard situation. My team and I have always questioned the ‘no water’ concept.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. -Revelation 21:4 & 21:6
As a chronically ill teenager it is INSANELY difficult to get treatment it is absolutely beyond me how this occurred. Even when I was 5’7 and weighing 85lbs from my illnesses doctors refused to place a nasal feeding tube let alone preform wholly unnecessary surgery. This makes me absolutely sick and is beyond heartbreaking for too many reasons to even begin to cover in a comment.
im chronically ill too and it is unbelievably hard to get help. it blows my mind no one helped this little girl. im heartbroken for her and her family. 😢
@@7nviie Same. It took me years to get the proper diagnosis because I had doctors arguing that I wasn't sick, while I was getting sicker and sicker. I am finally getting help and starting to recover but it took 6 years to get here and the damage is already done. I will never fully recover from my illness because doctors ignored me. I agree this poor baby didn't need to suffer she was totally fine.
💯 agree with you. The drugs they were freely giving this child are so expensive that children that actually need them have to try many other failed options before getting them. It’s sickening! Wtf is going on at this hospital?
as someone in the same position (not gastro issues that are that bad, but both an unknown systemic illness that now after years "seems" to be an autoimmune disorder but they still don't know, and spine and hip and knee issues from childhood that were abnormal and serious and ignored until it was too late. and when they finally did the needed surgery in my 20s, there was irreversible damage at that point and I use a wheelchair, or walker on the good days, to this day) absolutely same. for so many reasons. you're going to deny care to God knows how many people bc certain things about a person can make the doctors treat them sub apr due to the doctors own prejudice or opinions, and so many truly ill people with medical records full of test results and abnormalities and solid proof of symptoms are told they're just depressed or anxious until sh*t hits the fan and it's "uh oh, oops sorry guess you really are sick" , and somehow these Drs were willing to perform a serious surgical intervention that has risks associated without hard fckin proof that at least SOMETHING was wrong. not only no proof something was wrong but multiple doctors and professionals said she was not terminal AND YET the doctors let her mom sign DNR and then initiated a terminal withdraw of nutrition WHAT THE ACTUAL FCCCKKK we can't get adequate treatment but they're willing to murder a beautiful baby girl by giving her needless surgery and medical devices and then willingly starved her to death despite multiple Drs saying she's not terminal. my head is spinning.
My mom was only 66, 5'5, and 68 lbs when she ended up in intensive care on oxygen. She had so many health issues like: COPD, electrolyte imbalance, high blood pressure, and her mind seemed like it was going. The doctors didn't think she was going to make it through the night. She became well enough to be discharged so I brought her to my house and cut out all the garbage she was eating and fed her lots of meat and some fruit. After two days her chronic pain from her 3 herniated discs was gone and she no longer used a rescue inhaler, which she used every couple of hours before. After two months she had gained 22 lbs, gotten off 5 medications, and was able to live on her own again without her homecare aid. She recently started eating bread, pasta, oatmeal, and potatoes again, and she's now getting winded walking to the bathroom, and her back pain and anxiety are back. You can't force people to be healthy, you can only show them the way. I had a problem with mental illness and was desperate enough to try anything. I had even made an appointment to start electroconvulsive therapy after years of being on and off all the pills. I happened across a video of someone healing their depression with meat and it sounded a lot less invasive so I did a lot of research and tried it. I saw a drastic improvement in three days and was noticing issues, that I thought were normal getting old stuff, were actually going away like knee pain and poor eyesight. I'll never go back to being so sick and miserable just for the small amount of pleasure I get from eating carbs.
For people who dont believe her mother has MBP, you realize how she was investigated right? After Olivia’s death, she startes taking another daughter to the hospital with similar issues in 2018. Doctors found them to be false! And once her kids were removed from her care, there were no more mysterious ailments. Weird! Right?
Not weird .....just proves her so called mother is a Killer of her child!! Along with all the doctors, especially the one who signed off on Olivias dnr.
THANK YOU. Let’s say you believed that the next daughter magically became sick when the sister died- explain how she was fine once the mother was removed from the equation? I’m not done with this video yet but I know the case already. Do they not explain about the second daughter in the video or are people just commenting without watching at all and without knowing the case????
I’m a physician. We are mandatory reporters and so are nurses. It’s unbelievable to me that the care providers didn’t report. Even if they were concerned about backlash, they could have reported anonymously.
I've lost all faith in physicians to speak up about much. Nurses love a cause so they might speak up to support a certain narrative but no, I no longer see physicians as patient advocates. Nothing personal towards you, obviously.
@@samanthamcphie9520 no it’s not the same thing you psycho. Even if you think masks are unnecessary, comparing it to THIS kind of behavior is absurd on every level. The pandemic has had negative effects on children for sure, but this woman starved a child to death and had her cut up. To think these things are on the same level… no
I hope this precious angel’s papa knows that she knows he did everything he could with the information he had, and that there’s no way he could have known this was happening. Breaks my heart that he is so haunted by this, and I hope he knows she loves him and that she knows he loves her even better than her own mother.
I just don’t like the fact that they settled just with money. Why wouldn’t they just go all the way to make hospital to change what they’re doing so that this doesn’t happen again to another family? If this happened to my family member I would sue for them to change their policies not settle outside of court for money.
@@Crisfer05 - Whatever system they have in place (and you better believe they have a process to address child abuse) it clearly failed. I would bet money that this hospital addressed or is addressing this failure internally and making changes to prevent this from happening again.
You can see how broken he is and very understandably! I couldn’t imagine!! God bless him and bring him the peace he needs to know he did all he could with the info he had! I’m shocked the hospital didn’t question anything
I was under the impression that doctors run tests and get actual proof of a health problem before they start doing invasive surgeries. How does something like this even happen?
Well, private healthcare providers get paid by drugs and procedures - Im betting that overworked and pressured employees would sign unecessary shenanigans for the Administrators' satisfaction.
Unfortunately, some things can't be proven and sometimes a parents word, someone who's with the child 24/7, is all they have to go off of. A lot of munchausens (either regular or by proxy) tend to pick diseases/symptoms/whatever that can't be definitively proven. Imagine her issues were real and the drs continually fought to "prove" it and she died while waiting? They absolutely should have contacted someone after she got better when she was on 1on1 and denied the DNR request, though.
As a mom who has special needs kids, who tf would want this? The uncomfortable nights in the hospital, watching them be poked and prodded on, holding them down for procedures. That was absolutely traumatizing for me. How could you VOLUNTARILY put your perfectly healthy child through this??? There's legitimately sick kids who parents would have given anything to have their child be well!
I think they do it to get attention and sympathy for themselves. 😢 selfish parents! Some do it because they want the praise. They want people to tell them them stuff like "you're a super mom" some also do it to get financial benefits. Truly sick and psychopathic...
Yes! I went through so much with my son the first 4 years of his life with 4 major surgeries with 2 being within the first 48 hours of birth (he had 2 pull through surgeries, an emergency illeostomy, and a reversal 2 years later)that he needed to live and my heart stopped everytime and we were non stop in the hospital those first 4 years to do EVERYTHING possible. This makes me sick!!
And to think this “mother” was getting ready to start the same thing with a second daughter. As if torturing and murdering one child wasn’t enough for her, if she hadn’t been stopped when she was, she might have spent the next few years torturing and murdering her other daughter. Did she actually think she’d get away with that as well? How horrific. I feel so sorry for Olivia’s grandfather, loving that little angel and watching her die, then learning the truth.
It's deeper then murder. Mounchausen is a mental disease. These Mothers are bored, lacking something in their lives. They research diseases, ailments on line, and then seek attention from Doctors, through their kids. Telling the Doctors their child is suffering the effects of their online research. Most of these people, when they were younger, learned they got attention when they were sick. So, as they grew older, they used their kids to get this attention from Medical staff. It makes these sick parents feel smart, educated, that they can research, and know more then the Doctors. Most of these people do not have a Family Doctor. And if a doctor won't agree with them, they move to another doctor. So then go undetected. Alot of these parents will use their childs sickness to get money, from different organizations, grants, fund raisers, etc.. Also Most of these sick parents, believe their own lies. That's why Mounchausen is a real mental attention seeking sickness.
They are addicted to the attention and sympathy they receive and can not will not stop , eventually their victim will succumb but that will not end the illness of their predator .
Yep thats exactly what it is. My daughters dad and especially her step mom was like that, they were both charged with injury to a child and now I have full custody of her. My heart breaks for this little girl.
The doctor who signed off her do not resuscitate should be fired and charged as well. Who in their right mind would’ve signed off on that. Even someone’s who’s not a doctor could’ve looked thru all her charts and info and would’ve seen something was wrong. Disgusting
Because that doctor isn't the one starving the child to death - how long do you think she suffered as she died slowly?! That doctor didn't have to watch.
It’s crazy because assisted suicide isn’t available for ppl with dementia yet Olivia’s mother was able to get a DNR for a child she was accused of abusing?
I don't understand why any doctor would. I don't understand why any doctor would have taken her feeding tube out knowing that it would kill her. I haven't found out yet if the mother gave a reason for doing it. Like, say, "I don't want her living like this anymore" From my understanding she didn't have any other diagnosis besides having anything dealing with the ileostomy & feeding tubes.
What floors me is that Olivia was coherent enough on her death bed to say "I'm hungry" and ask for food. But nobody was permitted to give her something other than popsicle juice!? Convicted killers on their way to get a lethal injection are permitted a last meal. But Olivia couldn't have a milkshake on her death bed to alleviate her hunger pains!? Thats so cruel! That poor grandfather has to suffer with that guilt and regret forever. All because the hospital missed a million red flags
An a sick in the head daughter who I hope gets life in prison with NO possibility of parole. The hospital should not have been able to get off the hook so easily by making an out of court settlement. No amount of money makes what they did okay and the best way to STOP 🛑 this would be to hold all Dr.s and staff accountable for this child's death. In this day and age we know about Munchausen by proxy. The fact that the hospital kept doing surgeries on this poor child all on the mother word alone without having personally witnessed it themselves. I hope they pass a federal law forcing hospitals to have to actually witness the so called symptoms of a child having what their mother claims they are suffering from, run test to see of the mother gave them a medicine to make them sick or poison and keep them mother from being allowed to see her child while in their care till they can confirm by witnessing what the mother claims the child supposedly has. This story is sickening, sad, and infuriating.
Yeah that’s like exactly what I was thinking. I have to believe that if a kid in my family was literally in hospice care told me they were hungry, I’d immediately just be like “Oh yeah? What do you want to eat, I’ll get you anything you want.” And then go run out and get them something. The literal entire point of hospice care is that the person is going to die soon anyways, and to make them comfortable, so if they ask for something to eat, they should be able to get it. If it makes them sick later, oh well, they’re in *hospice*. I cannot imagine what her mother must have been saying and doing to everyone else to manipulate them that much. Clearly the grandfather cared for her so much. That woman must be like insanely manipulative.
The US medical system is a mafia. They ruin lives for profit. Of course they will prescribe the most expensive treatments for no reason. They are greedy crooks. The bills for treatments are unbelievable. US hospitals are a joke. Doesn't surprise me that 1 million people died from covid in the US. and only 5000 died in China with 4 times more population.
I feel really sorry for the step Grandfather. He blames himself so much and it wasn't his fault at all. I hope he is able to find peace one day, because he is a good person.
My husband's Mother had Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.. This was back in the 70's & 80's before computers were a thing, but she had him on all kinds of medications he never needed, he was in leg braces he never needed, she kept him out of school for over a year telling the school he had a medical condition he never had. This went on for 16 YEARS..She also benefited by getting donations, free trips, free cars, etc.. He started dating me & my parents treated him like a normal kid & he started to figure out how twisted his mother was.. So by 17 he joined the US Navy. We got married 1 week before his 18th birthday & thanks to the Navy we moved 1000 miles away from his crazy mother. She died due to an accidental overdose a few years later. We have been married for 34yrs now & Dave has almost never been physically sick in all those 34 years... but the mental scars she left him with, I don't think he will ever fully heal from.
Wow what a crazy story. This must be hurtful for him to think his own mom lied so much. She was sick. And irresponsible. I am happy you guys are happy and that he was able to live a "normal" life after all he went through. He could write a book! :)
@@GD-xc4wg We need books written by the kids who survived this and grew up to recognize what it was. Doctors, child protective services and judges especially do not understand the profound damage done to these children. The mothers never stop. The child is only safe when removed from the home and not temporarily either. I have worked many of these cases and the ignorance and resistance on the part of all the professionals involved are pervasive.
My ex boyfriend suffered the exact same thing! He has life long effects on his mental and physical health from it. His 2 year old niece was not so lucky, and died from her neglect. 😢
I never knew my mom did this to me until I saw a documentary on Gypsy when I was 18… shortly after my mother disappeared and abandoned me. The best thing she ever did. I’m thankful everyday that I don’t have worse medical issues from this, but I truly went 18 years thinking I had so many disabilities. The stress that was put on my body by faux illnesses…. Caused lifelong damage to my body. But nothing as severe as I thought I had for 2/3 of my life. Munchaussens by proxy is UNBELIEVABLY hard to report and save kids forms it’s the RAREST AND DEADLIEST form of child abuse. After I found out, tons of my family realized certain things she did were part of me being the proxy. These people loved and cared for me, but still had no clue. It is NOT easy to figure out. Trust me. Tons of people can be around but the manipulation the abusers can create are beyond terrifying. People do not question mothers.
I hope that your family has reached out to proper authorities because if she disappeared lord only knows where, what or who she is torturing now. But I'm so sorry you endured that from your own mother, like wow, stay strong and continue to get healthy and definitely stay courageous and share your story with others ❣️
My sister in law was a victim of her mother's munchausen by proxy. She was placed by her mother on menopausal hormones (HRT) and told she would never have children. She underwent several unecessary surgeries and wasn't even properly home schooled so has no official education papers. Today she is married with two children but is socially inept and unable to find lucrative work.
@n00b Basically, yeah. It's the Karen crowd. Basically they make their whole identity around being a type of "mom" and join mom groups that do the same to look motherly. They don't question eachother because they feel like they can do no wrong since they are the "stereotypical classic stay at home mom group."
in order for my sister to prove she even had seizures, let alone a condition that caused them and required medication, she had to come home with stuff all over her head to record her brain activity. she had countless doctor’s visits, countless appointments with neurologists, and numerous seizures. finally, she was diagnosed with epilepsy after probably a year, maybe longer. the idea that a doctor would just…give her medication for seizures that didn’t even exist is baffling to me. the fact that they could just put a child on hospice and place a dnr order on her without even having her consult a therapist, without even being able to PROVE her condition is just wild.
^this I know I have trouble being taken seriously by doctors. I’ve heard so many accounts from chronically ill people that they don’t get taken seriously by doctors. Even getting something serious misdiagnosed as “anxiety” and having their condition go undiagnosed for YEARS longer. How did this awful woman manage to get care for fake illnesses when so many others can’t even get care for real ones?
I'm so sad.y grand daughter is in the custody of her paternal grandmother after they lied in court about my daughter.. And she is now insisting that our grand daughter has problems with her thyroid because she supposedly doesn't grow or fails to thrive. I'm just so sick to my stomach after listening to this 😭 😭 😭 we are so powerless. if my daughter would only challenge the judge's ruling on behalf of her daughter! :((
Bingo !!! We have a special unit in the hospital I work in where you wear a glue cap with wires hooked up to machines and monitored for days before they prescribe medication….. what is going on in that hospital !!! Complete misconduct
It's so unfair that people with real conditions are often not believed until they can thoroughly prove it, they're almost assumed to be lying by default unless there's a visible quality to their condition, which isn't a fair judgement because many conditions are invisible, but someone can just skip all of that effort when they don't even have a problem making life harder for them. It's like they're treated as higher priority for no reason.
It should be illegal, to withhold food and water, even if you expect someone will die. Let them eat , if they can. If a nurse brought food and waited, to see, if the poor girl would eat, she could have lived. This is so horrible.
I would have fed her if I was a nurse or even a custodial person there!! Even if she was going to die!! Was it a waste of food they worried over giving to a child who was dying? No child should be denied food that was readily available no matter how long they are expected to live!! That's so heartbreaking
My thoughts exactly. The poor girl was BEGGING for food! We give killers on death row a last meal! But they couldn't spare a milkshake for a dying child?
People can be provided food to eat, even if are unable to swallow properly if it is end of life. It’s called comfort feeding. The designated power of attorney though has to allow this. If the patient is an adult and mentally coherent, they can make this decision. If they are unable to make their own decisions though, the power of attorney can allow it. Olivia’s mom was her power of attorney and its obvious why she didn’t allow this. That poor girl though. So many people failed her.
@@lisadilo9615No wonder this cases isn’t getting enough attention because corruption played part in this. Every time corruption is involved, the case is less heard of.
As a nurse I encountered a Munchahusen by Proxy mother, only once thank god but you’d be surprised just how believable they are! I’m certainly no idiot and nothing surprises me at all, but the level of manipulation and the lies they tell are very in-depth! They’re often quite overpowering too!
How did you figure it out that she was Munchausen by proxy ? I’m not doubting you I’m just curious how you figured out the mother and what was done to protect the child. It’s rare when you hear a case and then it not go sour.
@@tomboymjr Long story short, I met this child (and mother) when he was transferred to the specialist unit I was working on at the time. There was strong suspicions all was not as the mother was saying. The bay that the child went into was filled with hidden cameras and microphones to catch what was going on, she was caught red-handed injecting the child with insulin (which he certainly didn’t need and confirmed the Dr’s and nurses suspicions) The police were called, she was arrested (and jailed) the boy went to live with his grandparents and got better instantly
My mother harmed me and my brother, who died from this, by munchausen by proxy. The whole entire system failed us. Lock these people up, protect the children.
Everyone in Olivia’s life failed her and she was tortured for years and ultimately starved to death! This story is so beyond heartbreaking and gut wrenching. My thoughts and prayers are with her Grandpa and those that actually loved and cared for Olivia. Rest in peace sweet, little angel. 💗
Right? My 31 year old daughter had recently finished Zpak for upper respiratory infection yet was still feeling unwell. I called or texted her every day until she was feeling better which was yesterday. I hate when my babies are sick. Anyway, it is an attention thing and it's sick! My antenna's go up if someone on facebook is posting frequently "pray for my son/daughter, he/she is sick/hurt, going to the hospital....." or whatever. Doctor's need to pay attention.
Sick bitches who love all the attention and donations they get when a child is sick. When a child is well they can't stand looking at themselves in the mirror so they have to get more attention. This "hospital" settled this case b4 a lawsuit was even filed. That tells u they knew they where complicit.
After the absolutely horrific abuse case of Gypsy Rose, doctors need to pay closer attention to parents that do this kind of thing. This is so tragic 😭
This mother stripped her daughter of living a long, healthy life and she gets 16 years in jail. Those doctors need to at least have their licenses revoked. This is Unbelievable.
I was told I had a problem when my granddaughter was having issues due to our well documented genetic inability to tolerate dairy or soy! Far too many Dr's actually dismiss valid medical conditions. It is shocking in this story that the exact opposite happened!
As someone who needs surgery desperately to fix my spine before my hips are blown out from just walking at 23 who can not seem to get approved even with all scans done confirming I'm so baffled how they just mutilate a child without even being certain themselves
This is inexcusable. In today's world where we understand munchausen by proxy so much more, why would anyone just take her word for it that this child had eating issues, seizures, and other issues where NO doctor actually witnessed the symptoms? It didn't alarm anyone that this child had over 1,000 doctor visits within her short 7 years of life? NO ONE thought it was weird her mom wanted her off the feeding tube AND to DNR? Everyone who ever had a part in taking care of this child needs to be held accountable.
@@ems7623 this was over 20 minutes and full of info. I wouldn't say that was brief. A 30 second clip with the bare minimum would be but not this. And my comment still stands. These medical professionals performed surgeries without verifying she needed them. My own husband has a legit disease (crohns) and he still doesn't need an ileostomy bag. But they gave her one on the word of her mom and no actual proof her intestines were damaged? Sorry, but no
No, that's not strange at all in cases where the patient has a terminal illness. In fact, it's quite common. Because it's illegal to assist terminal patients with help ending their lives in most states, the standard of care in hospice in terminal illness is often pulling feeding tubes, withholding food, and signing a DNR. In cases where the patient is in extreme pain/discomfort and is terminal, this is often the most humane, legally available way to end someone's life. That said, it is not humane at all and states that do not support assisted suicide should be ashamed and change their laws. In the case of this little girl, we know now that she was not terminal, nor was she actually sick. Her mother appears to have a mental illness that caused her to torture her daughter for five long years, confirmed only after she attempted the same thing with another child. The system certainly failed this child, but the feeding tube and DNR are normal in terminal cases... of which this was not one. If there were doctors/nurses/medical staff that suspected any of this, and it appears there were, someone should have raised the alarm since they are *mandatory reporters.* However, it can be incredibility difficult to diagnose Munchausen by Proxy, and medicine in the US is really just hospitality and means pleasing patients, so it is not surprising that this happens. The system needs to change.
@@mizzysparrots4874 “NO ONE”?? What about the doctors, specialists, and staff members who ‘refused’ to do those extreme surgeries, procedures, etc? They had a part in taking care of her, so by your logic they’re also culpable and must be punished. Considering the hospital settled out of court it’s likely that those employees *had* reported their suspicions but somebody along the chain of command didn’t take action in time to save her. It’s heartbreaking, and terrifyingly not as uncommon as most people think.
@@Bethsabee_Sheba_Newrose when did I say that someone who did not perform a surgery needs to be in trouble? Lol typical internet, taking my comment out of context and assuming things.
This is actually a case of life in prison for this mother and even the death penalty for puttimg this child thru torture, not to mention killing her slowly by starving her. The hospital, drs and staff are more at fault for negligence and incompetence. Shame on them.
They go to different doctors and hospitals. They are not computer linked so they never know what was said to previous doctors or what treatments were previously given unless Mom says something, and we know she isn't saying anything.
Same. I simply don't understand how it can be allowed for the mother to decide that her daughter should die. 'Cause that's literally what they're all doing, both her and the doctors. How the fu*k kan the doctors agree on that?! They STARVED her to death, and for what? Her mothers word?! This makes me so damn angry and sad at the same time. Poor sweet girl
The poor little girl starved to death….yet her mother was obese!!! Imagine all the food that fat , evil “mother “ ate in front of her starving daughter!
So, the doctors starved a healthy child to death legally? This is one reason we should not allow the withholding of food/water in cases where extreme life-saving measures have been forbidden. Food and water are not extreme life-saving measures! Remember Terri Schiavo.
Unfortunately this act is practise everywhere around the world. This beautiful girl's mum should be jailed for life, what I find hard to hear and watch. Why didn't anyone report this.
Unfortunately it's called VSED voluntary stop eating and drinking. It's supposed to be for terminal illnesses. In a hospice setting. And if they ask for food or drink they are supposed to get it. I can't believe it is allowed on children, especially where no proof of a terminal illness with death expected in less than 6 months isn't there, which is what it should be for if used at all. My boyfriend was brain dead so I guess it wasn't technically VSED but removal of all life support but starving just the same. Tragic. I don't get how they allow VSED but not a less painful way of death. They're both assisted suicide in my mind, but I guess technically they get around that by the person refusing food, not a doctor providing a drug, but you'd think if they're going to allow one the less tortured one would be better (not that it's good either but at least they don't suffer for days wasting away)
@@zuglymonster I'm so sorry about your boyfriend. I'm not sure how I feel about VSED, but I definitely don't think nourishment should be withheld from babies, children, or those incapable of making that choice. You're right that there are less protracted and quicker means of ending life, so it is strange that this is allowed when the others are not.
God, I felt terrible when my children cried from their shots… I can’t imagine being so mentally I’ll that I coerce doctors to do unnecessary surgeries and procedures. That poor little girl… and her poor grandparents
The pain that little Olivia must have been in must have been excruciating. I can't imagine having a parent like this. Have you heard of the Lacey Spears (?) case where she killed her son Garrett in very similar circumstances to little Olivia. Except she also poisoned her son with salt as well?
Hey Dutchess! We an awful long way from Cornville 😏. When my daughter was 9 it took about 4 orderlies to hold her down for an IV. I remember just looking out the window, feeling nauseous. Moms like this are just a mystery.
Yes, I am not a mom but seeing my niece and nephew in pain from a minor injury or even my cats breaks my heart. I can’t imagine doing this to you own child. This poor girl suffered so much just because the mom wanted attention 😢
As a childhood cancer survivor,this is just heartbreaking to see. I was drugged out of my mind and could barely walk for 3 years. I can't believe a poor baby going through all of this for nothing. She was perfectly fine and deserved to live a pain free life!
My neice did this to one of her sons. Thank goodness a judge believed the father and gave him emergency custody. He was able to get full custody of all the children and her son lived.
Hearing her sing "sister finger where are you" just like my daughter does, her birthday even being the same as my due date, breaks my heart. This poor baby. She deserved so much more and was failed time and time again. To know her short time on this earth was filled with so much pain, suffering, cruelty and betrayal is so awful. She deserved so much love, care and happiness. I truly can't stomach this
I used to work for Children's Colorado. The problem that was addressed in this video and that I believe was a contributing factor in Olivia's death, is the policy that child welfare concerns be brought to supervisors and the ethics committee and then they decide whether or not to do anything. That is NOT the law in Colorado. All mandatory reporters are required to call CPS with their concerns; talking to your supervisor and the ethics committee is not enough.
Exactly the hospital BROKE the LAW! And as a nurse I'm damn sure if someone who worked there went directly to the real authorities they would have been fired. Same thing should apply to schools; the real law authorities should be contacted not the internal committee.
It is so shocking that the committee voted they should NOT do anything. I don't even understand how they came to this conclusion. I hope that the individuals who sat on this ethics committee were let go.
@@robynneRN the sixth sense and the ordeal of Gypsy Rose brought a ton of attention to MBP cases - well before this child passed away but particularly within the past couple decades. I completely understand such rare circumstances being overlooked when it’s simply a rare situation but this was one people were aware of from pop media
Why did the medical community fail this child? It's obvious no child needs hospitalizations so frequently. Yes, the hospital is guilty of not keeping their oaths of, "First, do no harm."
I have been stuck in the hospital for nearly one year. When my mom tried to get me discharged they appointed me a court-ordered medical guardian, claimed I was incompetent, claimed she was abusive and forced me into unnecessary testing and treatments against my will. I am still fighting for my rights as the doctor claimed I was incompetent due to depression!
Right from the beginning I'm thinking, "so, the hospital staff never tried to give her food in the hospital to see if she'd eat?" My son was constipated as a 2 year old as well and I took him to the hospital. A children's hospital as well. They remedied the situation then made sure he could eat and hold down food. What the hell was this hospital doing?!? There is no excuse! Nurses and doctors are trained to recognize parents/guardians that are abusing their children in ANY way. Psychologically or mentally. Edit: The ETHICS team missed this??? Are you kidding me!
My guess is the hospital was afraid of being sued. Fear and greed often go way too far in this world. I just can't get my head around why nurses and doctors who suspected this didn't go to outside authorities... I wouldn't be surprised if they were threatened by the hospital board. They are businesses, at the end of the day. However, you'd hope that even if someone was threatened that they'd be fired, the child's life was worth more!!
@@frankieis The doctors and nurses wouldn't just have been fired, likely for bringing the hosipital into disrepute, they would have been blacklisted and would likely have not been able to continue their careers, so is one child's life worth a career of saving lives?
As a chronically ill Young adult, I’m disgusted. By both the mother and her doctors. Her docs should have their licenses revoked. But my heart absolutely breaks for her grandfather.
Kepra??? My son was diagnosed with Epilepsy years ago but there was a team of doctors and nurses and they all witnessed him having seizures. The need for Kepra is not a decision to be taken lightly. Unbelievable
As a young adult with a feeding tube, central lines, and actual medical issues, how could anyone do that to a kid unnecessarily? The intense and constant pain I deal with I wouldn’t wish on anyone, especially not to a tiny little innocent kid. Surgery and tubes are absolute last lines of defense and should only be done when absolutely positively necessary. How can doctors just let it happen? When I get admitted it is extremely obvious that I’m sick. Malnourishment can be proven with labs. All the GI disorders she was treated for are able to be proven with testing. How wasn’t this caught or, rather, why weren’t these doctors insistent about additional testing and 24/7 supervision inpatient when things were getting suspicious? Bless her heart and I hope she’s resting easy
Hospitals run tests don't they? I don't understand why they would just take her moms word!! Her grandpa saying it haunts him just breaks my heart. Poor little Olivia.
There isn’t a test for everything. There is also a physical exam and a lengthy differential diagnosis. One if the biggest problems today is computerized charting. It’s hard to see a big picture with just one page at a time on a screen.
@@cathykrueger4899but a simple blood test would have shown that she wasn’t dehydrated or starving. A period of observation would have shown she was able to eat, drink and pass waste. She was assessed by a swallowing specialist who found no issues. Epilepsy can be screened for with brain electrical activity tests and observation. There should have been no feeding tubes without a need, no stoma without a serious need. Those things are definitely able to be assessed
She knew she was close to being caught. Rather than take a chance on that, she killed her daughter. She only got 16 years with a plea agreement. How? She tortured that child to death and gets off with barely a slap on the wrist. How incredibly sad. The only reason she was even investigated was because she began doing the same to her other daughter. She clearly missed the attention and money she received from having a sick child. If she wasn’t such a greedy vile person maybe her daughter would still be alive.
Exactly. Where I live, the norm is treating moms like we are all crazy or compulsive liars. When my daughter was 4 I took her to Children's with an obvious ear infection. After waiting forever the doc came in a stuck the scope in her ear and she started screaming. He said he would have to come back and try it later cuz he can't see her eardrum with her screaming. I told him she would NEVER let him do that and Not scream because she has sensory dysfunction to begin with. He said he'd be right back. When he returned, he requested that I remove all her clothes for a standard once-over, you know, protocol. Fully aware that the police were right outside I complied- what else can you do? It drives me crazy seeing women like this kill their kids in front of a million people knowing how I and my children get treated by the same system.
That poor grandpa… you can tell how much he really loved that little girl. My heart feels so heavy for him.. I wish I could tell him how sorry I am for his loss. I never had a grandpa, but I always dreamed if I did, it would be a sweet man like him.
The hospital is half to blame they they did the procedures and they should have known whether she needed them are not above all else they just wanted insurance money
In this case the "doctors " took the mothers word and went full out by it! Unbelievable.. the hospitals staff tortured this girl to death by the mothers instructions
the hospital should be held accountable too..WTF...why did they treat the child because of what the mother said?? they are the Dr's..not the mother!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow. I have a daughter who was actually very sick and went to emergency often until she was 5. I remember telling a doctor I would not sign for a certain procedure because I didn't believe it was necessary. He was angry and argued with me but I did not want my baby going through painful procedures that would not solve the problem or make it better. It was purely for diagnostics. I cannot imagine asking for the things she went through, and watching her suffer unnecessarily. Mothers like this make me feel sick. I'm so sorry for the grandparents. I wish this crime could recieve the death penalty. Not slowly, she should endure every procedure she had set her baby up for.
My son developed encephalitis with his 2 month vaccines. He's 5 now and finally starting to get past the harm done. He has not and will not be getting anything else. It took him 10 months to recover neurologically. It took him 3 weeks to recover from pertussis at 2. They get mad at me but to me, it would be very much munchausen byproxy to knowingly put him through that again. People just assume I'm a crazy antivaxxer but I prayed, with my child screaming like a dying rabbit, that if God would just let him be ok I'd never do it again. And I never will.
Why would the Doctor's take the mother's word for her diagnosis. She's not a the doctor and should have been reported for false information about the child. How dare they(doctors).!. Actually they are more at fault than the crazy mother. She should be locked up.
My cousin did this to her two boys thank god finally a doctor came forward. Of course I looked like a monster raising any questions prior to her being caught. we need to do better! people are able to medically abuse their kids too easily. After the Gypsy situation you’d think people would get wiser.
Why the hell would the doctors preform life changing surgery or any surgery on a small child without any proof of needing it? . Wouldn’t they keep her in the hospital first to observe her eating?
WTF, SUE that hospital! several doctors already ordered to STOP the medication and whatever they were doing to that child but the hospital ignored it. This made me so mad!
This is like the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case. Her mother and medical professionals medically abused her. Gypsy had her mother murdered to escape the torture her mother put her through. Not that it's justified for her to do that to her mom but her mom and the medical professionals didn't have the right to torture Gypsy. I feel so sorry for Olivia. These people are evil. RIP Olivia.
If Gypsy hadn't of killed her mother, her mother would have killed her. If Gypsy had gone to the police or medical professionals her mother would have just gotten her competence legally stripped.
@@staceyogier6154 I agree completely. If she hadn't killed her mom she would have killed Gypsy. Her mother supposedly killed her own mother and poisoned her stepmother. With the feeding tube in her stomach her mom could have done anything she wants. I don't feel sorry for her mom she was evil.
@@jannalam6861 I completely agree. She shouldn't have been punished as harshly as she was. They could have given her a light sentence. But yes it was justified.
This is extremely upsetting. My son suffered greatly with a disorder called colonic dystmotity. It was horrible. I was suspected of being a Munchausen mom. I was grilled by a smug pediatrician because I have PTSD. The short of this is my son was diagnosed and with proper treatment and diet he was freed from this terrible disease. My then husband announced that it was common in his family among boys! He let us suffer for some perverse reason. Never will I forget the lack of support from so many doctors and my erstwhile husband. Never.
Having a bat princess party shows that Olivia was a one of a kind, quirky and imaginative child. Prison is too merciful. When it comes to such unforgivable crimes I sometimes wish the punishment could be more along the lines of an eye for an eye. It would prevent a lot of these crimes from happening.
@@lizbrown7232 Yes, technically that’s true, even twins have differences. But sadly a good majority of children, and adults for that matter, aren’t very original or imaginative. They’re followers, happy to just go along with the crowd, copying popular trends. Though some of them are just too insecure to voice or act on their different preferences, beliefs or ideas for fear of ridicule and rejection. And some purposefully don’t want to stand out, preferring to blend in. But a lot of the time the fault lies with the parents. They stifle their child’s individuality and imagination before it has a chance to truly blossom and form into something original or different from what they deem acceptable, believing that it’s their duty and right to tell their child what they should like and dislike, what they’re allowed to do or not do. Even what they’re allowed to think. Punishing them if they dare to veer off course, even a little. So though no two children are exactly alike, many are so close that their differences are negligible. That’s why it’s so obvious and when someone truly stands out from the crowd. I know it sounds harsh, but it’s rare to see a child that’s truly unique. But lately that does seem to be changing because more and more often parents are being taught that’s it’s healthier if there aren’t any limitations placed on these things as long as it’s safe.
@@truthspeaker8863 That was my point. About the different outside influences that stifle that individuality. And that sometimes it’s those things that cause children to choose to stifle it themselves, or just not show it to the world. And I think you’re exactly right about the age range when it starts to become obvious. But luckily nowadays parents are encouraging that independent thinking so hopefully someday it’ll become a thing of the past. It’s important that it does because followers tend to encourage the most dangerous minds in our communities to lead them like the sheep and lemmings they behave like. And it’s also just sad to see a child’s potential stifled by ignorance.
@@redreaper2752 my point is this child was in that age range when she had the party making her no different than most other other children in the word (imagination wise).
I feel for the grandfather, I hope he gets to care for her in the afterlife. I know nothing can help him get the guilt off of him but he was the only one who actually loved her
As much as I hate that POS poor excuse of a mother those doctors are also absolutely responsible and should be held accountable! 16 years for a prison sentence for that POS monster (refuse to refer to it as a mother!) is a slap in the face for all those who loved Olivia
My child was severely sick at birth, that was the most traumatic experience of my life. How could a mother purposely put their child through such suffering!?!?!? Unbelievable
Why did they not refer her to a neurologist to make sure that she was having "seizures"? This is sickening. The medical community will do anything to bill insurance. That is the bottom line. What is a human life worth?
My mother died from starvation due to her TPN port being infected. She had the option of sepsis or starvation and she chose starvation. It was absolutely horrifying to witness. She had many GI issues, and the situation leading up to her death was not the same as this precious child’s. But it was horrifying nonetheless and the fact that this sweet girl endured the same thing makes me sick
Excuse me? This is inexcusable. If the port was infected they could easily have removed it and placed a new sterile port to deliver sustenance. There’s no rationale in this situation to have to choose between sepsis or starvation. That’s not realistic.
@@thesoundofsiren1744 they did replace the port, and the new one became infected as well. She had fissures throughout her bowels and infection was circulating throughout her body that couldn’t be controlled with any amount of antibiotics. Sepsis was unfortunately inevitable.
when u don't have a choice, why do we have a choice as pet owners? if i get that kind of news, i want to option to not put family or myself through that and end it quietly with dignity.
What kind of magic do these parents have that they can get all these doctors and specialists to go along with their demands and not one person reports real and present danger?? I can't get doctors to take real actual injuries seriously, and getting seen by a specialist is like pulling teeth. A friend of mine is suffering from vision loss and vertigo because she woke up cross eyed with debilitating migraines out of the blue, doctors kept putting her off and sending her home telling her she just needed 'corrective lenses'. When she finally went to the eye clinic, they rushed her to a neurologist and she had pressure damaging her optic nerve and needed immediate surgery. I can't understand how these parents can just get their way with no evidence when people are suffering with real issues and can't get heard.
I hear you! I had testing over 10 days ago because of my digestive problems and have elevated liver enzymes, signs of obstruction of my Common Bile Duct, and there is fungus growing on my stomach lining because of all the chronic acid reflux and they haven’t even bothered to call me back and at least get me a prescription to kill this fungus but here I wait and feel like I’m a bother for calling them. I’m a nurse and just can’t believe that the hospital neglected the obvious with this little girl and who puts a DNR (do not resuscitate) order on a little child so easily and to just shut off her feedings? This is just mind boggling.
@@lisaeischens2352 seriously!! I know so many women and mothers that can't get medical attention to literally save their lives or their kids' lives, and this woman and others like her can somehow get all kinds of unnecessary meds and procedures, free care, trips, fundraisers, for nothing. Bottle that energy and ship it to the rest of us, we got things that actually need care. I don't get it.
Lisa I had the same symptoms as you and I did a parasite cleanse protocol! The one I took was a tincture by Now Foods. Look up Organic Olivia’s blog, she has a very comprehensive post on cleanses that might be useful to you. Best of luck x
I cannot believe this happened at Children's hospital. So, anyone can come in and say something is going on with their child and they'll just perform a surgery? Unbelievable.
I can believe it their staff has always been neglectful towards children my daughter almost died bc of Tc Thompson children's hospital I had to threaten to sue them all just to get my daughter help.
Same thing happened to Gypsy Rose. DeeDee just walked into multiple hospitals and told them that she had numerous conditions and diseases and they just listened to her. Only one doctor tried to fact check her and it was way too late by then, she skipped town once he started asking questions. She had them perform so many surgeries on her, including on her eyes, teeth, and inserting a feeding tube in her stomach. There was nothing wrong with Gypsy in the first place. Eminem's mom just shoved pills down his throat, telling him he was sick when he wasn't. Munchausen Syndrome is a dangerous mental issue for everyone under their care.
Well, wake up. It happens all the time. Weird that people seem to think we live in a country that isn’t the one we actually live in.
Medical people have worked hard and are eager to practise their skills. Unfortunately getting to the root of problems has never been the focus of western medicine, rather "fixing" the symptoms. They are being given false information! It must be very confusing but hopefully they were trying to help the child. When things are this strange however, i think they should closely observe 24/7 in a hospital/rehab setting for several weeks before deciding to do a surgury, to see if the environment at home is contributing to the situation. This is a horribly tragic story.
@@Hey_Jamie expecting basic due diligence from hospital staff until given evidence to expect anything less is not weird. wake up.
This child actually received an ileostomy without her medics observing any symptoms themselves?? This is absolutely INSANE!!!
It absolutely is! That surgery alone is horrific to undergo. It’s utterly heartbreaking.
Happens all the time. $$$$$$$$$ The last 2 years should be an eyeopener for anyone who has been ignorant about what the medical industrial complex roach motel system has done for decades $$$$$$$$$$. Sadly, this little girl is not an isolated case and operations, drugs and other treatments are prescribed that are totally UNNECESSARY. This is what happens when government (taxpayer) subsidized "healthcare" funds inflated medical costs.
I have Crohns and UC, my doctors dont even give me new medications without me having long term proof of what my symptoms are.
I am terminally ill, last year i was on hospice amd was blessed enough to get better. I am stunned they allowed her mother sign a DNR, its mind blowing!!! Even with having multiple organ issues, (stage 4 cirrhosis,chronic pancreatitis with calcification,crohns with complications(severe anemia from daily internal bleeding causing me to get iron infusions and blood transfusions) i have latent TB so i am not able to take biologics), and UC. medicaid didnt want to pay for iron infusions anymore until my iron was so low that i needed to be hospitalized. Now even with all that(and more) and being 52 yrs old, i wasnt jist given up on. My hospice team was wonderful and they gave me personalized care and by the Grace of God i stabilized and am on palliative care now.
There is something so very wrong here. How did these medical professions allow this to happen?! A DNR for a child???
I Hope this poor childs so called "mother" gets unnecessary surgeries,a feeding tube and starved to death...but without any narcotics.
@@samryon3615 my goodness what a plateful of long term serious health conditions without even mentioning your terminal diagnosis! I hope you manage to be pain free some of the time. I have little to complain about when I read your comment. May you be content and pain free or well managed at very least.
They usually report stomach issues which are not easily detectable. Doctors depend on the integrity of parents reporting their children’s symptoms.
That poor baby. Her grandpa recalling her saying “Papa I’m hungry” broke me.
It broke me too,poor sweet baby
Same
Yeah I definitely teared up. I’m a stickler about not making children have a bad relationship with food. I’ll admit I’m overweight but my children are not and I cannot stand even a baby saying I’m hungry. For some reason. Lol I feel I should know before They are hungry!
Also, From family experience with my brother I know it’s devastating when your told your child can no longer eat by mouth and feeding tubes are put in. Sure the child is being nourished but taking away a mothers ability to feed a child, even when it’s medically necessary is devastating. Any mother to do this on her own deserves the death penalty !
Kids are always hungry. That's not the most important moment. Attention-seeking isn't cute.
@@devin7703 You make no sense. How are you going to enforce healthy eating habits and routine if YOU CANNOT? Just stop. It's food. It's always there. Grow up and knock it off. You're not in a third world country. Mcdonalds will still be here. Calm down.
So one girl is actually sick and gets ripped away from her family so hard her mother commits suicide ??? But the system is NEEDED AND NO ONE BATS AN EYE for this lil girl??? System is beyond broken
100%
That was my immediate thought when I saw the first 5min!!
Insanity
Facts
That was my first thought too! WTH is going on?! Sickening!😡💔
As a dietitian, I am floored that feeding tubes and TPN could be administered with no actual physical proof that Olivia wasn’t absorbing her food. The medical professionals in this case absolutely need to be held accountable for what they did, along with the mother
And she didn’t even have a diagnosis and to put DNR and remove her from tpn. I’ve been through years of testing for my dysmotality and it wasn’t until I dropped below my BMI I was placed on tpn and then I was weighed each week.
Mother is a victim being framed to protect the guilty party!
@@veritaslux644 Uh, no. The mother absolutely is guilty. She was purposely lying about the daughter's symptoms and giving her unnecessary drugs to make her seem sick. Yes, the doctors should have figured out what was happening and insisted on actual evidence of the child being sick before performing ANY treatments or surgeries. But the mother is an evil narcissist who used her child to gain sympathy, attention, and scam various organizations for money.
Doctors willing to do anything for money. They along with big pharm got America hooked on opiates, performing life changing surgeries on minors altering their reproductive capabilities and look how radical plastic surgery has become. All for profit.
AND the Keppra! I mean, what were they thinking?
Cases like this are why I think Gypsy Rose Blanchard deserved a lesser sentence. Munchausen by proxy is really dangerous and sadly fatal in many cases and no one on the outside seems to be able to help before it's too late.
Yeah high key imo she did nothing wrong
I agree! It was Gypsy’s boyfriend who did the murdering/violence. She is a victim in my opinion.
I hate to say it, but while I think Gypsy's actions were justified, watching the documentary "Mommy Dead and Dearest" (I think that's what it was called), it can easily be seen that she's picked up quite a bit of her mother's manipulative, "I'm meek"/blame others personality. I know she was coached on it by her mother, but she's already a masterful artist who can easily shift all blame elsewhere and, because of what she's been through, people feel sorry for her and are quickly and easily inclined to believe her/defend her and I can see her using it to her advantage, making her a potentially _very_ dangerous person.
Don't get me wrong, I am not sticking up for DeeDee or saying that that child deserved any of what her sociopathic mother put her through; I'm just saying that people really need to understand that she's not as vulnerable or innocent as she looks and people would do well to not let their guards down completely when it comes to her. I see her as someone with the potential to be a very dangerous individual- though I truly hope she won't set out to harm the world in an act of revenge for not protecting her from her mother. 😳😳 I guess we'll soon see what sort of mark she's gonna make on this world because she'll be out of prison soon- 2024 iirc!
@@lcoq19 you're right. And that's a big reason why she got the sentence she did! She planned it out and got her boyfriend to do it, which proves that she knew better but wanted to still get off the hook and be the victim. Of course, she learned that behavior from her mother, and she's still a victim, but it's not right and I'm glad the court recognized that
@@kellymcdonald3964 it is very telling when she admitted she felt more free in prison than in her own home. I have zero sympathy for sufferers of munchausen byproxy. It is literally a case of "I am going to make my kid look sick so I get attention." I am going to call this what it is; CHILD ABUSE.
Go after the doctors too! Disgusting, performing unnecessary surgeries, giving her unnecessary drugs. They are complicit in her death.
Been an ER/Trauma RN for 12 years and this absolutely disgust me as a medical professional. I understand Doctors being overworked and having far more patients than usual but that is no excuse for missing blatant abuse. Yes, we are being overworked but at no point does that excuse us from reporting abuse of any kind.
It's true when it comes to children we put a lot of faith in the parents to be honest considering they are the ones to witness symptoms. We only see the child a few minutes compared to the parents yet I can't see these surgeries being done without medical proof.
It's truly repulsive.
Calm down…… you’ll make it harder for legitimate patients
Exactly! Completely incompetent.. very scary to think everyone elses lives that hospital has affected by now? How can these people be called nurses and doctors?
@@vixxxenfoxxx3660 at the very least they could've kept her for a few weeks for observation before giving her such life altering surgeries
@@fern7306 if a medical team can be so negligent, they’re no good to anyone
The hospital/treating Doctors 100% should be held accountable. What a shame.
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The hospital should take 100% of the blame? Are you kidding me right now? Yes.. I agree the hospital should be held accountable but she also had a mother that was behind ALL of this.
The sad reality is that the child’s health depends on their parents much more than it should’ve been. A lot of signs and symptoms that might be obvious in adults might be obscure in children or even unnoticeable. Parents’ word weigh much more than the child’s in most the cases.
This poor grandpa. He feels so much guilt and he shouldn’t. Her mother would never have allowed him to step in. This story makes me sick. This is outright torture.
He has zero responsibility here.
The hospital however.... are supposed to be trained to understand medical issues, and to detect fraud, and are bound by policy to report child abuse.
If I walked into the ER complaining of pain and asking for pain killers they'd accuse me of drug seeking. Yet they missed this?
They are 100% just as guilty as the mother.
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@@pend_deletejessicalofton9769 that's not how mental illness works: anyone can get a disorder regardless of what their childhood was like!
Absolutely awful
That happened to my son, ot took him actually having a tonic clonic seizure and being taken away in an ambulance in front of a disability accessor for him to be believed and get disability benefit
The doctor who signed the “do not resuscitate” is just as guilty of her murder as the mother. Absolutely sickening.
Yes that physician but the whole ethics team as well. Crazy stuff…
I wouldn’t say he is AS guilty. Her mom intentionally slowly killed her.
@@christiangasior4244 I would have to agree. From my experience that doctor might not even wanted to do it. Whenever you have a problem parent like this, nobody really wants them under their care and technically he/she could have refused but someone would have eventually had to accept. It’s a tough call, but a worse one to make when the ethics teams has sided with the parent too!
@@maxxedtfout it’s hard to believe this happened and nobody caught this before it was too late. Makes me sick to the stomach. I really hope they learn from these cases not to just take a mothers word as gospel. But yeah they were negligent whereas the mother was just plain evil.
@@christiangasior4244 spot on. I hope so too. This baby was still so innocent, sweet, and happy, this outcome is completely shameful. There were a lot of red flags here, like treating without accessing prior records is just indefensible.
I don't know what's most horrifying: the fact that a child's mother slowly and intentionally watched her child die, or that a hospital did all those invasive surgeries without actually examining the child to see if she actually needed them or not.
maybe those surgeries are expensive and they wanted to make money from the insurance company
Both!!! This is sickening!
Must be a military doctor🤣😂... THEY SUCK!!! When my son's Pediatrician (military) said he needed a G-tube for feeding and the doctor was willing to do it without any other testing it shocked me! I requested for them to do a gastric stomach emptying test they looked at me like I was insane. I refused to allow the (military) doctor's to treat my son until other test were done. After almost 3 months of arguing with me they did a nuclear gastric emptying test and it turned out he has gastroparesis (paralyzed stomach muscle) and he was aspirating on food that was everything less than milkshake thickness and he did need a G-tube because he was not absorbing nutrition at all. At a year old my son only weighed 11 pounds 4 ounces. Needless to say yes doctor's will do surgeries that are not necessary just to make a buck.
Wouldn't he have needed a J-Tube?
So the mom was allowed to plead out and have the murder charge tossed out? Seriously? Plus she took over $100,000 in donations and all she got was 16 years in prison? Shameful.
IT’S LIBTURD COLORADEEE, where Whites don’t matter.
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Just think of people who needed the help that went to a mom who was deceitful about her child's health....some children could use wheelchair ramps etc.....
Soooo…she died by starvation??? They drugged her up with narcotics so she wouldn’t be alert, saying “I’m hungry”. And just let her waste away, for 3 weeks!? How can a doctor sign off on that!
It's called VSED. It's supposed to be for terminal illnesses when death is expected within 6 months. Still awful but the law states if the person says "I'm hungry" "I'm thirsty" they're supposed to get it. I don't know if because she was a minor mom had to approve it anyway (probably) but that's a huge reason children shouldn't be ever put on it. I don't really like the idea for anyone, but if someone of a right mind who's an adult makes the choice it's much different than a parent doing it to a child especially a child with no terminal illness!
HORRIBLE
Umm my grandma tried to do that and the nursing home put her in the hospital and put in an IV. My aunt's who are nurses went in and made them stop doing it because my grandma was like over 80 or 90 and didn't want to be here anymore. She wasn't eating anyway or barely she was in a lot of pain and junk. This is sad for this little girl.
@Zugly Monster You have problem with hospice for end-stage disease processes & terminal illnesses/conditions?
@@amim4701 when did they say that??
That disgusting “mother” starving this poor baby… meanwhile, we all see SHE obviously wasn’t skipping any meals. 🙄😡
We know where the food was going.
This made me sick to my stomach.
FOR REAL!
Exactly!!
The MBP mothers are almost always grotesquely overweight.
How do doctors perform 25...let me say that again...TWENTY FIVE unnecessary surgeries?!?🤬
A master manipulator is how. Doctors are human. But still, should apply skepticism.
Money makes the world go round, the world go round...
I agree. A lot of those procedures were performed without the dr vetting that a problem actually existed. They took the mother's word.
Money
Create problems that require surgeries
To think her last words were ‘I’m hungry’ breaks my heart, I seriously hope her mother pays for what she’s done. Absolute animal
Her poor papa had to hear that as her last words 😢 poor girl poor man absolutely horrible 😢
Monster. Most animals are nice and instinctively take care of their babies 😞 she's a Monster.
@@mommawolf9653 definitely a better word to describe this individual
omg :(
@@julieandjeffschaffer99😊
I had cancer at 10 years old. A lot of the same surgeries. I was on TPN. it was torture. Actually hell. I couldn’t imagine purposely inflicting that on a child.
I am so sorry you had to go through that. I am glad you survived.
What’s TPN ?
i can. it's called sociopathic tendencies. everyone has some to certain extents. in this case, the psycho mom had lack of empathy for her daughter because she saw being viewed as a saint by others more important than her daughter's welfare. that's how munchausen syndrome by proxy works.
She's going straight to hell for putting that baby through all that pain.
I'm sorry you had to endure that. May God continue to keep you in good health.
“Prescribed her medication for a diagnosis that was never observed” wtf? How would the hospital not be partially responsible? That’s sick
Didn’t you hear? The hospital used the poor child for the front face for cancer donation, hospital made 3 million dollars. No wonder you barely hear about this case probably hospital paying off to silence this case from media.
Gross medically negligence it’s extremely common in Colorado unfortunately
I think they have to be careful on that one, because a legal precedent could be extremely harmful. For example, I have severe panic attacks, but none of my doctors have witnessed one. They have prescribed me emergency medicine for panic attacks, because they have to trust that I'm telling the truth. Or maybe you get a stomach bug, spend the whole night throwing up, and in the morning go seek medical help because you still feel sick, but stopped vomiting. The doctors might not see you throwing up, so they trust that you're telling the truth. If they legally attack the hospital using this thought process of you can't prescribe medication until you observe the symptoms, that can lead to some future messy court cases of medical negligence.
@@alisaishere those are some fair points.
@@alisaishere those are minor things compared to what they done to that little girl
Oh my gosh, my stomach is in knots. They basically removed her feeding tube and starved her to death for 3 weeks. That poor grandfather when she told him she was hungry. This is gut wrenching. Everyone failed this poor sweet girl
That's Hospice for you. My husband would never put me in Hospice. He watched Hospice tell his aunt to stop giving any liquid to his grandmother so she would die. She only had pneumonia, but unfortunately, she also had cancer and she was in her 80's, so she was basically deemed expendable. We were so upset. It took three days and she passed on. We couldn't do anything, as she was under Hospice care and the aunt's care! I've also heard of a Hospice starvation case. It's unconscionable. I don't think most people understand that Hospice does these things (occasionally, at the very least - possibly more than I know, as I don't work for them). But to withhold WATER. That's the most miserable thing I can imagine.
@@walkingnarrow8574 you are correct! I’m a CNA. I work alongside Hospice teams very often. They tell us to not give any water after a certain point in time- or they will suggest using a sponge to wet the mouth and lips. I must say that MY team and I give our residents as much water as they will consume until they pass away. It’s a very hard situation. My team and I have always questioned the ‘no water’ concept.
@@ellieburns4198 BLESS YOU, Ellie. May God bless you for that.
She didn't even need them or a damn stomach f*** surgery in the first place, for constipation give me a f****** break
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. -Revelation 21:4 & 21:6
Her grandfather saying "but what was she thinking of me, not giving her food or feeding her" as his voice breaks. It breaks my heart
As a chronically ill teenager it is INSANELY difficult to get treatment it is absolutely beyond me how this occurred. Even when I was 5’7 and weighing 85lbs from my illnesses doctors refused to place a nasal feeding tube let alone preform wholly unnecessary surgery. This makes me absolutely sick and is beyond heartbreaking for too many reasons to even begin to cover in a comment.
im chronically ill too and it is unbelievably hard to get help. it blows my mind no one helped this little girl. im heartbroken for her and her family. 😢
@@7nviie Same. It took me years to get the proper diagnosis because I had doctors arguing that I wasn't sick, while I was getting sicker and sicker. I am finally getting help and starting to recover but it took 6 years to get here and the damage is already done. I will never fully recover from my illness because doctors ignored me. I agree this poor baby didn't need to suffer she was totally fine.
💯 agree with you. The drugs they were freely giving this child are so expensive that children that actually need them have to try many other failed options before getting them. It’s sickening! Wtf is going on at this hospital?
as someone in the same position (not gastro issues that are that bad, but both an unknown systemic illness that now after years "seems" to be an autoimmune disorder but they still don't know, and spine and hip and knee issues from childhood that were abnormal and serious and ignored until it was too late. and when they finally did the needed surgery in my 20s, there was irreversible damage at that point and I use a wheelchair, or walker on the good days, to this day) absolutely same. for so many reasons. you're going to deny care to God knows how many people bc certain things about a person can make the doctors treat them sub apr due to the doctors own prejudice or opinions, and so many truly ill people with medical records full of test results and abnormalities and solid proof of symptoms are told they're just depressed or anxious until sh*t hits the fan and it's "uh oh, oops sorry guess you really are sick" , and somehow these Drs were willing to perform a serious surgical intervention that has risks associated without hard fckin proof that at least SOMETHING was wrong. not only no proof something was wrong but multiple doctors and professionals said she was not terminal AND YET the doctors let her mom sign DNR and then initiated a terminal withdraw of nutrition WHAT THE ACTUAL FCCCKKK
we can't get adequate treatment but they're willing to murder a beautiful baby girl by giving her needless surgery and medical devices and then willingly starved her to death despite multiple Drs saying she's not terminal. my head is spinning.
My mom was only 66, 5'5, and 68 lbs when she ended up in intensive care on oxygen. She had so many health issues like: COPD, electrolyte imbalance, high blood pressure, and her mind seemed like it was going. The doctors didn't think she was going to make it through the night. She became well enough to be discharged so I brought her to my house and cut out all the garbage she was eating and fed her lots of meat and some fruit. After two days her chronic pain from her 3 herniated discs was gone and she no longer used a rescue inhaler, which she used every couple of hours before. After two months she had gained 22 lbs, gotten off 5 medications, and was able to live on her own again without her homecare aid. She recently started eating bread, pasta, oatmeal, and potatoes again, and she's now getting winded walking to the bathroom, and her back pain and anxiety are back. You can't force people to be healthy, you can only show them the way.
I had a problem with mental illness and was desperate enough to try anything. I had even made an appointment to start electroconvulsive therapy after years of being on and off all the pills. I happened across a video of someone healing their depression with meat and it sounded a lot less invasive so I did a lot of research and tried it. I saw a drastic improvement in three days and was noticing issues, that I thought were normal getting old stuff, were actually going away like knee pain and poor eyesight. I'll never go back to being so sick and miserable just for the small amount of pleasure I get from eating carbs.
For people who dont believe her mother has MBP, you realize how she was investigated right? After Olivia’s death, she startes taking another daughter to the hospital with similar issues in 2018. Doctors found them to be false! And once her kids were removed from her care, there were no more mysterious ailments. Weird! Right?
Not weird .....just proves her so called mother is a Killer of her child!! Along with all the doctors, especially the one who signed off on Olivias dnr.
She’s nuts!!! Sick and twisted!!!
THANK YOU. Let’s say you believed that the next daughter magically became sick when the sister died- explain how she was fine once the mother was removed from the equation? I’m not done with this video yet but I know the case already. Do they not explain about the second daughter in the video or are people just commenting without watching at all and without knowing the case????
That's info they should've had in this video.
@@virginiaordaya it's in the video at 16:05
I’m a physician. We are mandatory reporters and so are nurses. It’s unbelievable to me that the care providers didn’t report. Even if they were concerned about backlash, they could have reported anonymously.
If care is refused by one hospital...they should also notify nearby hospitals, along with the authorities.
Care providers can not report anonymously
Exactly, a childs life depends on it.....
@@modnius8583yes they can.
I've lost all faith in physicians to speak up about much. Nurses love a cause so they might speak up to support a certain narrative but no, I no longer see physicians as patient advocates. Nothing personal towards you, obviously.
I just want to give that grandpa a hug. He had no idea what was going on and it wasn’t his fault. I hope he can forgive himself ❤️
I know.when he said what must she think of me??? that i failed her... so heartbreaking....
Murder charges were dropped, she pled guilty to lesser chargers and got 16 years. Not enough.
not even close. child abusers should NEVER be able to make plea deals
Agree! That poor little girl was tortured.
Agreed Life would have been more like it
Section all parents that put masks on children for two years for No reason, same thing no?
@@samanthamcphie9520 no it’s not the same thing you psycho. Even if you think masks are unnecessary, comparing it to THIS kind of behavior is absurd on every level. The pandemic has had negative effects on children for sure, but this woman starved a child to death and had her cut up. To think these things are on the same level… no
I hope this precious angel’s papa knows that she knows he did everything he could with the information he had, and that there’s no way he could have known this was happening. Breaks my heart that he is so haunted by this, and I hope he knows she loves him and that she knows he loves her even better than her own mother.
I know 😪 so sad I can't imagine how he feels 💔
I just don’t like the fact that they settled just with money. Why wouldn’t they just go all the way to make hospital to change what they’re doing so that this doesn’t happen again to another family? If this happened to my family member I would sue for them to change their policies not settle outside of court for money.
@@Crisfer05 - Whatever system they have in place (and you better believe they have a process to address child abuse) it clearly failed. I would bet money that this hospital addressed or is addressing this failure internally and making changes to prevent this from happening again.
Ugh, he broke my heart. 😭
You can see how broken he is and very understandably! I couldn’t imagine!! God bless him and bring him the peace he needs to know he did all he could with the info he had! I’m shocked the hospital didn’t question anything
I was under the impression that doctors run tests and get actual proof of a health problem before they start doing invasive surgeries. How does something like this even happen?
Well, private healthcare providers get paid by drugs and procedures - Im betting that overworked and pressured employees would sign unecessary shenanigans for the Administrators' satisfaction.
Unfortunately, some things can't be proven and sometimes a parents word, someone who's with the child 24/7, is all they have to go off of. A lot of munchausens (either regular or by proxy) tend to pick diseases/symptoms/whatever that can't be definitively proven. Imagine her issues were real and the drs continually fought to "prove" it and she died while waiting? They absolutely should have contacted someone after she got better when she was on 1on1 and denied the DNR request, though.
Sometimes the mother induces injury or illness in the child the mimicks what she is claiming is wrong. Other than that. . . I have no idea
Yeah this is scary and depressing
Sad
As a mom who has special needs kids, who tf would want this? The uncomfortable nights in the hospital, watching them be poked and prodded on, holding them down for procedures. That was absolutely traumatizing for me. How could you VOLUNTARILY put your perfectly healthy child through this??? There's legitimately sick kids who parents would have given anything to have their child be well!
Yes exactly 💯
I think they do it to get attention and sympathy for themselves. 😢 selfish parents! Some do it because they want the praise. They want people to tell them them stuff like "you're a super mom" some also do it to get financial benefits. Truly sick and psychopathic...
Right? My son had to be in the NICU for a month when he was born, and also spent a week at Boston Childrens Hospital, it was awful
Yes! I went through so much with my son the first 4 years of his life with 4 major surgeries with 2 being within the first 48 hours of birth (he had 2 pull through surgeries, an emergency illeostomy, and a reversal 2 years later)that he needed to live and my heart stopped everytime and we were non stop in the hospital those first 4 years to do EVERYTHING possible.
This makes me sick!!
fr!!! i’m a sick kid and grew up sick. my mother would do anything ANYTHING to see me be healthy and pain free. this is so shameful. so so shameful.
And to think this “mother” was getting ready to start the same thing with a second daughter. As if torturing and murdering one child wasn’t enough for her, if she hadn’t been stopped when she was, she might have spent the next few years torturing and murdering her other daughter. Did she actually think she’d get away with that as well? How horrific. I feel so sorry for Olivia’s grandfather, loving that little angel and watching her die, then learning the truth.
It's deeper then murder. Mounchausen is a mental disease. These Mothers are bored, lacking something in their lives. They research diseases, ailments on line, and then seek attention from Doctors, through their kids. Telling the Doctors their child is suffering the effects of their online research. Most of these people, when they were younger, learned they got attention when they were sick. So, as they grew older, they used their kids to get this attention from Medical staff. It makes these sick parents feel smart, educated, that they can research, and know more then the Doctors. Most of these people do not have a Family Doctor. And if a doctor won't agree with them, they move to another doctor. So then go undetected. Alot of these parents will use their childs sickness to get money, from different organizations, grants, fund raisers, etc.. Also Most of these sick parents, believe their own lies. That's why Mounchausen is a real mental attention seeking sickness.
Oh my goodness, was there a 2nd child?
They are addicted to the attention and sympathy they receive and can not will not stop , eventually their victim will succumb but that will not end the illness of their predator .
@@jessicakruger7 16:06
Hope she’s in jail now and never allowed to be around children ever again
When her Papaw said that baby said she was hungry......I lost it!
I know. She starved to death. That poor baby. I just want to go back and save her.
@@nikkid8519 I hope mommy dearest starves in prison.
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this was so heartbreaking. poor baby just wanted some food
Hearing that shattered my heart. 😭
Parental and medical abuse causing this sweet girl's death is murder.
@Dawna Devine - You are correct. And the mother has been arrested and charged with that crime.
Yep thats exactly what it is. My daughters dad and especially her step mom was like that, they were both charged with injury to a child and now I have full custody of her. My heart breaks for this little girl.
Yes true facts
The doctor who signed off her do not resuscitate should be fired and charged as well. Who in their right mind would’ve signed off on that. Even someone’s who’s not a doctor could’ve looked thru all her charts and info and would’ve seen something was wrong. Disgusting
Because that doctor isn't the one starving the child to death - how long do you think she suffered as she died slowly?! That doctor didn't have to watch.
Yes! Especially for a child.
My thoughts too ...
It’s crazy because assisted suicide isn’t available for ppl with dementia yet Olivia’s mother was able to get a DNR for a child she was accused of abusing?
I don't understand why any doctor would. I don't understand why any doctor would have taken her feeding tube out knowing that it would kill her. I haven't found out yet if the mother gave a reason for doing it. Like, say, "I don't want her living like this anymore" From my understanding she didn't have any other diagnosis besides having anything dealing with the ileostomy & feeding tubes.
What floors me is that Olivia was coherent enough on her death bed to say "I'm hungry" and ask for food. But nobody was permitted to give her something other than popsicle juice!? Convicted killers on their way to get a lethal injection are permitted a last meal. But Olivia couldn't have a milkshake on her death bed to alleviate her hunger pains!? Thats so cruel!
That poor grandfather has to suffer with that guilt and regret forever. All because the hospital missed a million red flags
Exactly it’s terrible this story has fucked me up
An a sick in the head daughter who I hope gets life in prison with NO possibility of parole. The hospital should not have been able to get off the hook so easily by making an out of court settlement. No amount of money makes what they did okay and the best way to STOP 🛑 this would be to hold all Dr.s and staff accountable for this child's death. In this day and age we know about Munchausen by proxy. The fact that the hospital kept doing surgeries on this poor child all on the mother word alone without having personally witnessed it themselves. I hope they pass a federal law forcing hospitals to have to actually witness the so called symptoms of a child having what their mother claims they are suffering from, run test to see of the mother gave them a medicine to make them sick or poison and keep them mother from being allowed to see her child while in their care till they can confirm by witnessing what the mother claims the child supposedly has. This story is sickening, sad, and infuriating.
That hospital, literally starved that child to death, simply because the mother asked them to. That's why she was hungry.
Yeah that’s like exactly what I was thinking. I have to believe that if a kid in my family was literally in hospice care told me they were hungry, I’d immediately just be like “Oh yeah? What do you want to eat, I’ll get you anything you want.” And then go run out and get them something.
The literal entire point of hospice care is that the person is going to die soon anyways, and to make them comfortable, so if they ask for something to eat, they should be able to get it. If it makes them sick later, oh well, they’re in *hospice*.
I cannot imagine what her mother must have been saying and doing to everyone else to manipulate them that much. Clearly the grandfather cared for her so much. That woman must be like insanely manipulative.
The US medical system is a mafia.
They ruin lives for profit.
Of course they will prescribe the most expensive treatments for no reason.
They are greedy crooks.
The bills for treatments are unbelievable.
US hospitals are a joke.
Doesn't surprise me that 1 million people died from covid in the US.
and only 5000 died in China with 4 times more population.
I feel really sorry for the step Grandfather. He blames himself so much and it wasn't his fault at all. I hope he is able to find peace one day, because he is a good person.
My husband's Mother had Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.. This was back in the 70's & 80's before computers were a thing, but she had him on all kinds of medications he never needed, he was in leg braces he never needed, she kept him out of school for over a year telling the school he had a medical condition he never had. This went on for 16 YEARS..She also benefited by getting donations, free trips, free cars, etc.. He started dating me & my parents treated him like a normal kid & he started to figure out how twisted his mother was.. So by 17 he joined the US Navy. We got married 1 week before his 18th birthday & thanks to the Navy we moved 1000 miles away from his crazy mother. She died due to an accidental overdose a few years later. We have been married for 34yrs now & Dave has almost never been physically sick in all those 34 years... but the mental scars she left him with, I don't think he will ever fully heal from.
Wow what a crazy story. This must be hurtful for him to think his own mom lied so much. She was sick. And irresponsible. I am happy you guys are happy and that he was able to live a "normal" life after all he went through. He could write a book! :)
@@GD-xc4wg We need books written by the kids who survived this and grew up to recognize what it was. Doctors, child protective services and judges especially do not understand the profound damage done to these children. The mothers never stop. The child is only safe when removed from the home and not temporarily either. I have worked many of these cases and the ignorance and resistance on the part of all the professionals involved are pervasive.
So sad
I hope he heals and get a life full of happiness
My ex boyfriend suffered the exact same thing! He has life long effects on his mental and physical health from it. His 2 year old niece was not so lucky, and died from her neglect. 😢
Wow!
That grandpa is just breaking my heart. The guilt he feels must be overwhelming. Poor man, what was he to do? He didn't know what was going on.
Yeah, most stepfathers aren't gonna think their kids are monsters. He trusted her.
He needs to know she loved him and doesn't blame him and she knows the truth now
I never knew my mom did this to me until I saw a documentary on Gypsy when I was 18… shortly after my mother disappeared and abandoned me. The best thing she ever did. I’m thankful everyday that I don’t have worse medical issues from this, but I truly went 18 years thinking I had so many disabilities. The stress that was put on my body by faux illnesses…. Caused lifelong damage to my body. But nothing as severe as I thought I had for 2/3 of my life. Munchaussens by proxy is UNBELIEVABLY hard to report and save kids forms it’s the RAREST AND DEADLIEST form of child abuse.
After I found out, tons of my family realized certain things she did were part of me being the proxy. These people loved and cared for me, but still had no clue. It is NOT easy to figure out. Trust me. Tons of people can be around but the manipulation the abusers can create are beyond terrifying. People do not question mothers.
Have you heard from the b,@%h that did this to you?😞
I hope that your family has reached out to proper authorities because if she disappeared lord only knows where, what or who she is torturing now. But I'm so sorry you endured that from your own mother, like wow, stay strong and continue to get healthy and definitely stay courageous and share your story with others ❣️
My sister in law was a victim of her mother's munchausen by proxy. She was placed by her mother on menopausal hormones (HRT) and told she would never have children. She underwent several unecessary surgeries and wasn't even properly home schooled so has no official education papers. Today she is married with two children but is socially inept and unable to find lucrative work.
Sorry to hear that you were abused. Are you ok now at least?
@n00b Basically, yeah. It's the Karen crowd. Basically they make their whole identity around being a type of "mom" and join mom groups that do the same to look motherly. They don't question eachother because they feel like they can do no wrong since they are the "stereotypical classic stay at home mom group."
in order for my sister to prove she even had seizures, let alone a condition that caused them and required medication, she had to come home with stuff all over her head to record her brain activity. she had countless doctor’s visits, countless appointments with neurologists, and numerous seizures. finally, she was diagnosed with epilepsy after probably a year, maybe longer. the idea that a doctor would just…give her medication for seizures that didn’t even exist is baffling to me.
the fact that they could just put a child on hospice and place a dnr order on her without even having her consult a therapist, without even being able to PROVE her condition is just wild.
^this
I know I have trouble being taken seriously by doctors. I’ve heard so many accounts from chronically ill people that they don’t get taken seriously by doctors. Even getting something serious misdiagnosed as “anxiety” and having their condition go undiagnosed for YEARS longer. How did this awful woman manage to get care for fake illnesses when so many others can’t even get care for real ones?
She basically laid there and starved to death for three weeks
I'm so sad.y grand daughter is in the custody of her paternal grandmother after they lied in court about my daughter.. And she is now insisting that our grand daughter has problems with her thyroid because she supposedly doesn't grow or fails to thrive. I'm just so sick to my stomach after listening to this 😭 😭 😭
we are so powerless. if my daughter would only challenge the judge's ruling on behalf of her daughter! :((
Bingo !!! We have a special unit in the hospital I work in where you wear a glue cap with wires hooked up to machines and monitored for days before they prescribe medication….. what is going on in that hospital !!! Complete misconduct
It's so unfair that people with real conditions are often not believed until they can thoroughly prove it, they're almost assumed to be lying by default unless there's a visible quality to their condition, which isn't a fair judgement because many conditions are invisible, but someone can just skip all of that effort when they don't even have a problem making life harder for them. It's like they're treated as higher priority for no reason.
It should be illegal, to withhold food and water, even if you expect someone will die. Let them eat , if they can. If a nurse brought food and waited, to see, if the poor girl would eat, she could have lived. This is so horrible.
I would have fed her if I was a nurse or even a custodial person there!! Even if she was going to die!! Was it a waste of food they worried over giving to a child who was dying? No child should be denied food that was readily available no matter how long they are expected to live!! That's so heartbreaking
I'm sure big fatso Mom would have eaten it
My thoughts exactly. The poor girl was BEGGING for food! We give killers on death row a last meal! But they couldn't spare a milkshake for a dying child?
100 percent agree!
People can be provided food to eat, even if are unable to swallow properly if it is end of life. It’s called comfort feeding. The designated power of attorney though has to allow this. If the patient is an adult and mentally coherent, they can make this decision. If they are unable to make their own decisions though, the power of attorney can allow it. Olivia’s mom was her power of attorney and its obvious why she didn’t allow this. That poor girl though. So many people failed her.
The hospital needs to be investigated and charged.
25 unnecessary medical procedures, in the hospital "might" be liable?? Are you freaking joking me!?
Exactly what I was thinking. Doctors and hospital did not care for the child.
Yes ...
The hospital helped Olivias mother kill her. Disgusting!!!
And they made millions off of it!!! If that poor little girl was uninsured they would NOT have been so quick to do all those unnecessary things
Ergo the lawsuit and the point of the video.....
@@lisadilo9615No wonder this cases isn’t getting enough attention because corruption played part in this. Every time corruption is involved, the case is less heard of.
Poor child. This is heart breaking! 😭😭😭
As a nurse I encountered a Munchahusen by Proxy mother, only once thank god but you’d be surprised just how believable they are!
I’m certainly no idiot and nothing surprises me at all, but the level of manipulation and the lies they tell are very in-depth!
They’re often quite overpowering too!
That’s really scary!
How did you figure it out that she was Munchausen by proxy ? I’m not doubting you I’m just curious how you figured out the mother and what was done to protect the child. It’s rare when you hear a case and then it not go sour.
@@tomboymjr Long story short, I met this child (and mother) when he was transferred to the specialist unit I was working on at the time. There was strong suspicions all was not as the mother was saying.
The bay that the child went into was filled with hidden cameras and microphones to catch what was going on, she was caught red-handed injecting the child with insulin (which he certainly didn’t need and confirmed the Dr’s and nurses suspicions)
The police were called, she was arrested (and jailed) the boy went to live with his grandparents and got better instantly
Sure but SCIENCE should prevail. Objective facts.
@@emmaphilo4049 what… this comment has nothing to do with anything we’re talking about lololol
My mother harmed me and my brother, who died from this, by munchausen by proxy. The whole entire system failed us. Lock these people up, protect the children.
Everyone in Olivia’s life failed her and she was tortured for years and ultimately starved to death! This story is so beyond heartbreaking and gut wrenching. My thoughts and prayers are with her Grandpa and those that actually loved and cared for Olivia. Rest in peace sweet, little angel. 💗
I feel so sad for her grandpa you can see how tormented he is it’s heartbreaking
As a mother, I don’t understand how anyone would want their child to be ill.
Attention
Psychopathic traits
Right? My 31 year old daughter had recently finished Zpak for upper respiratory infection yet was still feeling unwell. I called or texted her every day until she was feeling better which was yesterday. I hate when my babies are sick.
Anyway, it is an attention thing and it's sick! My antenna's go up if someone on facebook is posting frequently "pray for my son/daughter, he/she is sick/hurt, going to the hospital....." or whatever. Doctor's need to pay attention.
She wanted attention, and people feeling sorry for her.
Sick bitches who love all the attention and donations they get when a child is sick. When a child is well they can't stand looking at themselves in the mirror so they have to get more attention. This "hospital" settled this case b4 a lawsuit was even filed. That tells u they knew they where complicit.
After the absolutely horrific abuse case of Gypsy Rose, doctors need to pay closer attention to parents that do this kind of thing. This is so tragic 😭
There was one doctor that did pay attention and have his suspicions. He just never went forward with it until it was too late.
What about the man she conned into doing her dirty work
@@paulysmallz8095❤
This mother stripped her daughter of living a long, healthy life and she gets 16 years in jail. Those doctors need to at least have their licenses revoked. This is Unbelievable.
Tell me about it
Wow! And sometimes when someone actually has an actual medical condition, doctors don’t take their symptoms seriously. RIP Olivia.
These doctors were nuts
That’s the story to often with MS or Lupus. But these doctors? I don’t have words. Poor wee angel.
Yep
I was told I had a problem when my granddaughter was having issues due to our well documented genetic inability to tolerate dairy or soy! Far too many Dr's actually dismiss valid medical conditions. It is shocking in this story that the exact opposite happened!
As someone who needs surgery desperately to fix my spine before my hips are blown out from just walking at 23 who can not seem to get approved even with all scans done confirming I'm so baffled how they just mutilate a child without even being certain themselves
This is inexcusable. In today's world where we understand munchausen by proxy so much more, why would anyone just take her word for it that this child had eating issues, seizures, and other issues where NO doctor actually witnessed the symptoms? It didn't alarm anyone that this child had over 1,000 doctor visits within her short 7 years of life? NO ONE thought it was weird her mom wanted her off the feeding tube AND to DNR? Everyone who ever had a part in taking care of this child needs to be held accountable.
I wouldn't arrive at so many conclusions about the medical staff involved on the basis on just one brief local news report.
@@ems7623 this was over 20 minutes and full of info. I wouldn't say that was brief. A 30 second clip with the bare minimum would be but not this. And my comment still stands. These medical professionals performed surgeries without verifying she needed them. My own husband has a legit disease (crohns) and he still doesn't need an ileostomy bag. But they gave her one on the word of her mom and no actual proof her intestines were damaged? Sorry, but no
No, that's not strange at all in cases where the patient has a terminal illness. In fact, it's quite common. Because it's illegal to assist terminal patients with help ending their lives in most states, the standard of care in hospice in terminal illness is often pulling feeding tubes, withholding food, and signing a DNR. In cases where the patient is in extreme pain/discomfort and is terminal, this is often the most humane, legally available way to end someone's life. That said, it is not humane at all and states that do not support assisted suicide should be ashamed and change their laws.
In the case of this little girl, we know now that she was not terminal, nor was she actually sick. Her mother appears to have a mental illness that caused her to torture her daughter for five long years, confirmed only after she attempted the same thing with another child. The system certainly failed this child, but the feeding tube and DNR are normal in terminal cases... of which this was not one. If there were doctors/nurses/medical staff that suspected any of this, and it appears there were, someone should have raised the alarm since they are *mandatory reporters.* However, it can be incredibility difficult to diagnose Munchausen by Proxy, and medicine in the US is really just hospitality and means pleasing patients, so it is not surprising that this happens. The system needs to change.
@@mizzysparrots4874 “NO ONE”?? What about the doctors, specialists, and staff members who ‘refused’ to do those extreme surgeries, procedures, etc? They had a part in taking care of her, so by your logic they’re also culpable and must be punished. Considering the hospital settled out of court it’s likely that those employees *had* reported their suspicions but somebody along the chain of command didn’t take action in time to save her. It’s heartbreaking, and terrifyingly not as uncommon as most people think.
@@Bethsabee_Sheba_Newrose when did I say that someone who did not perform a surgery needs to be in trouble? Lol typical internet, taking my comment out of context and assuming things.
You can’t even get a Doctor to give you a damn pain pill anymore after surgery, yet they had no problem doing this.
This is actually a case of life in prison for this mother and even the death penalty for puttimg this child thru torture, not to mention killing her slowly by starving her. The hospital, drs and staff are more at fault for negligence and incompetence. Shame on them.
She were in Texas & Florida she d’ be given death row.
They go to different doctors and hospitals. They are not computer linked so they never know what was said to previous doctors or what treatments were previously given unless Mom says something, and we know she isn't saying anything.
@@Raresnce But to perform unnecessary surgeries that's on the doctors
Also, for profit medical services🤷🏼♀️
This disgusting piece of trash took a plea deal and only got 16 years…..wtf
When her grandfather rekindled holding his grandbabies hand said she told him "papa im hungry" I'm literally in tears that hit me so hard. 💔
That was like a punch in the gut 😢
Same. I simply don't understand how it can be allowed for the mother to decide that her daughter should die. 'Cause that's literally what they're all doing, both her and the doctors. How the fu*k kan the doctors agree on that?! They STARVED her to death, and for what? Her mothers word?! This makes me so damn angry and sad at the same time. Poor sweet girl
The poor little girl starved to death….yet her mother was obese!!! Imagine all the food that fat , evil “mother “ ate in front of her starving daughter!
So, the doctors starved a healthy child to death legally? This is one reason we should not allow the withholding of food/water in cases where extreme life-saving measures have been forbidden. Food and water are not extreme life-saving measures! Remember Terri Schiavo.
Unfortunately this act is practise everywhere around the world. This beautiful girl's mum should be jailed for life, what I find hard to hear and watch. Why didn't anyone report this.
She literally starved to death…. So sad
Her evil sadistic mother allowed her to starve
Unfortunately it's called VSED voluntary stop eating and drinking. It's supposed to be for terminal illnesses. In a hospice setting. And if they ask for food or drink they are supposed to get it. I can't believe it is allowed on children, especially where no proof of a terminal illness with death expected in less than 6 months isn't there, which is what it should be for if used at all. My boyfriend was brain dead so I guess it wasn't technically VSED but removal of all life support but starving just the same.
Tragic. I don't get how they allow VSED but not a less painful way of death. They're both assisted suicide in my mind, but I guess technically they get around that by the person refusing food, not a doctor providing a drug, but you'd think if they're going to allow one the less tortured one would be better (not that it's good either but at least they don't suffer for days wasting away)
@@zuglymonster I'm so sorry about your boyfriend. I'm not sure how I feel about VSED, but I definitely don't think nourishment should be withheld from babies, children, or those incapable of making that choice. You're right that there are less protracted and quicker means of ending life, so it is strange that this is allowed when the others are not.
This infuriates me so much! They starved a child to death! For what?? Why? The poor girl!
I feel sick to my stomach
God, I felt terrible when my children cried from their shots… I can’t imagine being so mentally I’ll that I coerce doctors to do unnecessary surgeries and procedures. That poor little girl… and her poor grandparents
The pain that little Olivia must have been in must have been excruciating. I can't imagine having a parent like this. Have you heard of the Lacey Spears (?) case where she killed her son Garrett in very similar circumstances to little Olivia. Except she also poisoned her son with salt as well?
Yes!this mother is horrible.
Hey Dutchess! We an awful long way from Cornville 😏. When my daughter was 9 it took about 4 orderlies to hold her down for an IV. I remember just looking out the window, feeling nauseous. Moms like this are just a mystery.
Yes, I am not a mom but seeing my niece and nephew in pain from a minor injury or even my cats breaks my heart. I can’t imagine doing this to you own child. This poor girl suffered so much just because the mom wanted attention 😢
From one mother to another, pls watch the documentaries Va--ed and Va--ed 2 as well as the YT channel Va--edTV. ♥️
As a childhood cancer survivor,this is just heartbreaking to see. I was drugged out of my mind and could barely walk for 3 years. I can't believe a poor baby going through all of this for nothing. She was perfectly fine and deserved to live a pain free life!
How about holding these GREEDY doctors accountable! The hospital is just as much to blame.
In my opinion Mom's intent trumps all.
I agree with you.
uncaring....money money....x
stupid, negligent, inappropriately complicit but I do not believe this was about the hospital making money...just malpractice
@@lindag4544 You do not think they get paid for every procedure they do?
I would like to know does this happen at such a rate in places like the UK with universal healthcare?
My neice did this to one of her sons. Thank goodness a judge believed the father and gave him emergency custody. He was able to get full custody of all the children and her son lived.
That poor grandfather living with those feelings is heartbreaking, im sure he feels partly responsible even though he had no clue what was going on
Hearing her sing "sister finger where are you" just like my daughter does, her birthday even being the same as my due date, breaks my heart. This poor baby. She deserved so much more and was failed time and time again. To know her short time on this earth was filled with so much pain, suffering, cruelty and betrayal is so awful. She deserved so much love, care and happiness. I truly can't stomach this
That was exactly when I burst into tears!! My daughter sings that song all the time too
She is resting with God now and that gives me some peace 🙏🏼
I used to work for Children's Colorado. The problem that was addressed in this video and that I believe was a contributing factor in Olivia's death, is the policy that child welfare concerns be brought to supervisors and the ethics committee and then they decide whether or not to do anything. That is NOT the law in Colorado. All mandatory reporters are required to call CPS with their concerns; talking to your supervisor and the ethics committee is not enough.
Did they change that policy??
Exactly the hospital BROKE the LAW! And as a nurse I'm damn sure if someone who worked there went directly to the real authorities they would have been fired. Same thing should apply to schools; the real law authorities should be contacted not the internal committee.
I was wondering exactly this, mandatory reporter means MANDATORY
It is so shocking that the committee voted they should NOT do anything. I don't even understand how they came to this conclusion. I hope that the individuals who sat on this ethics committee were let go.
@@robynneRN the sixth sense and the ordeal of Gypsy Rose brought a ton of attention to MBP cases - well before this child passed away but particularly within the past couple decades. I completely understand such rare circumstances being overlooked when it’s simply a rare situation but this was one people were aware of from pop media
It is unfathomable to me that she was discharged onto hospice without an official diagnosis. Why didn’t they do a separation test?
That piss me off starving to death is torture !
I work in healthcare and I can totally see this happening. The way the system is set up, the way staff members like nurses and techs are ignored.
Exactly the system is for money. Found that out when I got injured on the job working in healthcare
@T͎R͎A͎C͎Y͎ wow I’m so glad you are better now!
@@TheFinalPlanZ1 yes. I feel like healthcare is just one big insurance system and we are working for the insurance company.
@@dawnr7798 that’s how I got treated. My Tbi was not taken seriously and it’s like they think we are robots not humans.
My mom is an RT and has been ignored way too many times by incompetent drs. It’s sickening the huge ego some of those people have.
Why did the medical community fail this child? It's obvious no child needs hospitalizations so frequently. Yes, the hospital is guilty of not keeping their oaths of, "First, do no harm."
because this is really hell
I have been stuck in the hospital for nearly one year. When my mom tried to get me discharged they appointed me a court-ordered medical guardian, claimed I was incompetent, claimed she was abusive and forced me into unnecessary testing and treatments against my will. I am still fighting for my rights as the doctor claimed I was incompetent due to depression!
@@MakeupJunkie0000 That is a nightmare.
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@@MasterofScrutiny Its unbelivable.
Right from the beginning I'm thinking, "so, the hospital staff never tried to give her food in the hospital to see if she'd eat?" My son was constipated as a 2 year old as well and I took him to the hospital. A children's hospital as well. They remedied the situation then made sure he could eat and hold down food. What the hell was this hospital doing?!? There is no excuse! Nurses and doctors are trained to recognize parents/guardians that are abusing their children in ANY way. Psychologically or mentally.
Edit: The ETHICS team missed this??? Are you kidding me!
Right?! The Ethics team actually challenged and decided against the doctor’s suspicions of abuse!! Insane.
Or blood tests and various exams, before a surgery?
I'm speechless
Same! My daughter had to use the bathroom and eat and keep it down in order to go home
My guess is the hospital was afraid of being sued. Fear and greed often go way too far in this world. I just can't get my head around why nurses and doctors who suspected this didn't go to outside authorities... I wouldn't be surprised if they were threatened by the hospital board. They are businesses, at the end of the day. However, you'd hope that even if someone was threatened that they'd be fired, the child's life was worth more!!
@@frankieis The doctors and nurses wouldn't just have been fired, likely for bringing the hosipital into disrepute, they would have been blacklisted and would likely have not been able to continue their careers, so is one child's life worth a career of saving lives?
As a chronically ill
Young adult, I’m disgusted. By both the mother and her doctors. Her docs should have their licenses revoked. But my heart absolutely breaks for her grandfather.
Kepra???
My son was diagnosed with Epilepsy years ago but there was a team of doctors and nurses and they all witnessed him having seizures. The need for Kepra is not a decision to be taken lightly.
Unbelievable
Right my daughter took kepra and spritam....playing around with your child's health is sick...
As a young adult with a feeding tube, central lines, and actual medical issues, how could anyone do that to a kid unnecessarily? The intense and constant pain I deal with I wouldn’t wish on anyone, especially not to a tiny little innocent kid. Surgery and tubes are absolute last lines of defense and should only be done when absolutely positively necessary. How can doctors just let it happen? When I get admitted it is extremely obvious that I’m sick. Malnourishment can be proven with labs. All the GI disorders she was treated for are able to be proven with testing. How wasn’t this caught or, rather, why weren’t these doctors insistent about additional testing and 24/7 supervision inpatient when things were getting suspicious? Bless her heart and I hope she’s resting easy
Doctors should be held accountable too. How can they prescribed something that the mother requested. The mother is not a doctor.
I can't believe they put her on hospice with no terminal diagnosis!
Despicable ....they need to change protocol! 😢
Hospitals run tests don't they? I don't understand why they would just take her moms word!! Her grandpa saying it haunts him just breaks my heart. Poor little Olivia.
There isn’t a test for everything. There is also a physical exam and a lengthy differential diagnosis. One if the biggest problems today is computerized charting. It’s hard to see a big picture with just one page at a time on a screen.
She apparently had very good health insurance.
Doctors/Surgeons will do anything if you through enough money at them.
@@cathykrueger4899but a simple blood test would have shown that she wasn’t dehydrated or starving. A period of observation would have shown she was able to eat, drink and pass waste. She was assessed by a swallowing specialist who found no issues. Epilepsy can be screened for with brain electrical activity tests and observation. There should have been no feeding tubes without a need, no stoma without a serious need. Those things are definitely able to be assessed
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She knew she was close to being caught. Rather than take a chance on that, she killed her daughter. She only got 16 years with a plea agreement. How? She tortured that child to death and gets off with barely a slap on the wrist. How incredibly sad. The only reason she was even investigated was because she began doing the same to her other daughter. She clearly missed the attention and money she received from having a sick child. If she wasn’t such a greedy vile person maybe her daughter would still be alive.
it’s crazy how shit like this happens yet when mothers have genuine medical concerns they get ignored. what a world
Exactly. Where I live, the norm is treating moms like we are all crazy or compulsive liars. When my daughter was 4 I took her to Children's with an obvious ear infection. After waiting forever the doc came in a stuck the scope in her ear and she started screaming. He said he would have to come back and try it later cuz he can't see her eardrum with her screaming. I told him she would NEVER let him do that and Not scream because she has sensory dysfunction to begin with. He said he'd be right back. When he returned, he requested that I remove all her clothes for a standard once-over, you know, protocol. Fully aware that the police were right outside I complied- what else can you do? It drives me crazy seeing women like this kill their kids in front of a million people knowing how I and my children get treated by the same system.
(Thank you for sharing awareness on how to spot these types of caregivers)
That poor grandpa… you can tell how much he really loved that little girl. My heart feels so heavy for him.. I wish I could tell him
how sorry I am for his loss.
I never had a grandpa, but I always dreamed if I did, it would be a sweet man like him.
I agree you can tell he is a good man and I feel so heartbroken for him that he is haunted every day
This seriously makes me sick. That poor child. Poor grandpa.😢
This is one of the hardest things I’ve ever watched. She was so precious. I hope her mother pays dearly in the afterlife.
I’d like to see it in this life!
@@kathydilorenzo9744Exactly, I'd like to see it RIGHT NOW.
Or pay in prison every day for the rest of her life. POS
They should treat her mom the same way she treated this beautiful little girl.
And specially in this life
I cried when my 1 year old got blood taken for his lead check up. How could a mother do this! Children are the most precious thing on this earth
How was this poor little girl failed by SOOOO many people?!! I’m shook 😢
The hospital is half to blame they they did the procedures and they should have known whether she needed them are not above all else they just wanted insurance money
So shocking….. heart wrenching
There needs to be some sort of action for hospitals to prevent this abuse, it's their job to heal the sick and help the injured
The doctors are just as much the blame. Never take what a doctor tell you about your child without getting a 2nd 3rd opinion
In this case the "doctors " took the mothers word and went full out by it! Unbelievable.. the hospitals staff tortured this girl to death by the mothers instructions
AND THE NURSES! WTF? Doctors see 100's of patients a day Nurses provide care to 4.
@@greerstirling9665 Nures see the patients before the doctors do
The 1st opinion was that the mom was abusing the baby second opinion did an unnecessary surgery😫
@@greerstirling9665 HA! Nurses have WAYYY more than 4 patients per shift. That's laughable.
the hospital should be held accountable too..WTF...why did they treat the child because of what the mother said?? they are the Dr's..not the mother!!!!!!!!!!!
This poor, poor little girl! What a shame that children are left so alone and vulnerable in the clutch of deeply disturbed grown-ups!!!😡
Wow. I have a daughter who was actually very sick and went to emergency often until she was 5. I remember telling a doctor I would not sign for a certain procedure because I didn't believe it was necessary. He was angry and argued with me but I did not want my baby going through painful procedures that would not solve the problem or make it better. It was purely for diagnostics. I cannot imagine asking for the things she went through, and watching her suffer unnecessarily. Mothers like this make me feel sick. I'm so sorry for the grandparents. I wish this crime could recieve the death penalty. Not slowly, she should endure every procedure she had set her baby up for.
My son developed encephalitis with his 2 month vaccines. He's 5 now and finally starting to get past the harm done. He has not and will not be getting anything else. It took him 10 months to recover neurologically. It took him 3 weeks to recover from pertussis at 2. They get mad at me but to me, it would be very much munchausen byproxy to knowingly put him through that again. People just assume I'm a crazy antivaxxer but I prayed, with my child screaming like a dying rabbit, that if God would just let him be ok I'd never do it again. And I never will.
Can’t help thinking that sometimes doctors want to do procedures for the money, not because they are essential.
Why would the Doctor's take the mother's word for her diagnosis. She's not a the doctor and should have been reported for false information about the child. How dare they(doctors).!. Actually they are more at fault than the crazy mother. She should be locked up.
My cousin did this to her two boys thank god finally a doctor came forward. Of course I looked like a monster raising any questions prior to her being caught. we need to do better! people are able to medically abuse their kids too easily. After the Gypsy situation you’d think people would get wiser.
Why the hell would the doctors preform life changing surgery or any surgery on a small child without any proof of needing it? . Wouldn’t they keep her in the hospital first to observe her eating?
WTF, SUE that hospital! several doctors already ordered to STOP the medication and whatever they were doing to that child but the hospital ignored it. This made me so mad!
There are many evil greedy people running hospitals and weeding out caring and intelligent staff.
This is like the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case. Her mother and medical professionals medically abused her. Gypsy had her mother murdered to escape the torture her mother put her through. Not that it's justified for her to do that to her mom but her mom and the medical professionals didn't have the right to torture Gypsy. I feel so sorry for Olivia. These people are evil. RIP Olivia.
If Gypsy hadn't of killed her mother, her mother would have killed her. If Gypsy had gone to the police or medical professionals her mother would have just gotten her competence legally stripped.
@@staceyogier6154 I agree completely. If she hadn't killed her mom she would have killed Gypsy. Her mother supposedly killed her own mother and poisoned her stepmother. With the feeding tube in her stomach her mom could have done anything she wants. I don't feel sorry for her mom she was evil.
Her mother was slowly killing her, so I say it was justified for her to kill her mother.
@@jannalam6861 I completely agree. She shouldn't have been punished as harshly as she was. They could have given her a light sentence. But yes it was justified.
But ironically she says and seems happy in prison!
I can't help but tear up for the step grandfather. It's got to be hard to sleep at night with those thoughts.
This is extremely upsetting. My son suffered greatly with a disorder called colonic dystmotity.
It was horrible. I was suspected of being a Munchausen mom.
I was grilled by a smug pediatrician because I have PTSD.
The short of this is my son was diagnosed and with proper treatment and diet he was freed from this terrible disease.
My then husband announced that it was common in his family among boys!
He let us suffer for some perverse reason. Never will I forget the lack of support from so many doctors and my erstwhile husband. Never.
Having a bat princess party shows that Olivia was a one of a kind, quirky and imaginative child. Prison is too merciful. When it comes to such unforgivable crimes I sometimes wish the punishment could be more along the lines of an eye for an eye. It would prevent a lot of these crimes from happening.
Every child is one of a kind.
@@lizbrown7232 Yes, technically that’s true, even twins have differences. But sadly a good majority of children, and adults for that matter, aren’t very original or imaginative. They’re followers, happy to just go along with the crowd, copying popular trends. Though some of them are just too insecure to voice or act on their different preferences, beliefs or ideas for fear of ridicule and rejection. And some purposefully don’t want to stand out, preferring to blend in. But a lot of the time the fault lies with the parents. They stifle their child’s individuality and imagination before it has a chance to truly blossom and form into something original or different from what they deem acceptable, believing that it’s their duty and right to tell their child what they should like and dislike, what they’re allowed to do or not do. Even what they’re allowed to think. Punishing them if they dare to veer off course, even a little. So though no two children are exactly alike, many are so close that their differences are negligible. That’s why it’s so obvious and when someone truly stands out from the crowd. I know it sounds harsh, but it’s rare to see a child that’s truly unique. But lately that does seem to be changing because more and more often parents are being taught that’s it’s healthier if there aren’t any limitations placed on these things as long as it’s safe.
@@redreaper2752 I disagree. I've worked with kids and 95% of them are VERRRYYYY imaginative between the ages of 3 and 6.
@@truthspeaker8863 That was my point. About the different outside influences that stifle that individuality. And that sometimes it’s those things that cause children to choose to stifle it themselves, or just not show it to the world. And I think you’re exactly right about the age range when it starts to become obvious. But luckily nowadays parents are encouraging that independent thinking so hopefully someday it’ll become a thing of the past. It’s important that it does because followers tend to encourage the most dangerous minds in our communities to lead them like the sheep and lemmings they behave like. And it’s also just sad to see a child’s potential stifled by ignorance.
@@redreaper2752 my point is this child was in that age range when she had the party making her no different than most other other children in the word (imagination wise).
I feel for the grandfather, I hope he gets to care for her in the afterlife. I know nothing can help him get the guilt off of him but he was the only one who actually loved her
As much as I hate that POS poor excuse of a mother those doctors are also absolutely responsible and should be held accountable! 16 years for a prison sentence for that POS monster (refuse to refer to it as a mother!) is a slap in the face for all those who loved Olivia
Absolutely!
They give drug crimes more time than that! That is so wrong, that monster deserves to suffer more than that little baby did. RIP baby girl
Let’s hope her fellow inmates take care of her.
My child was severely sick at birth, that was the most traumatic experience of my life. How could a mother purposely put their child through such suffering!?!?!? Unbelievable
Why did they not refer her to a neurologist to make sure that she was having "seizures"? This is sickening. The medical community will do anything to bill insurance. That is the bottom line. What is a human life worth?
Today? Not much. As we've all been seeing lately.
You just hit the nail!😢
They did and the neurologist told the mother 3 times to stop giving keppra
@@vj8406 If that's true, the neurologist should have filed a CPS report
My mother died from starvation due to her TPN port being infected. She had the option of sepsis or starvation and she chose starvation. It was absolutely horrifying to witness. She had many GI issues, and the situation leading up to her death was not the same as this precious child’s. But it was horrifying nonetheless and the fact that this sweet girl endured the same thing makes me sick
Excuse me? This is inexcusable. If the port was infected they could easily have removed it and placed a new sterile port to deliver sustenance. There’s no rationale in this situation to have to choose between sepsis or starvation. That’s not realistic.
@@thesoundofsiren1744 they did replace the port, and the new one became infected as well. She had fissures throughout her bowels and infection was circulating throughout her body that couldn’t be controlled with any amount of antibiotics. Sepsis was unfortunately inevitable.
@@laurenadams4624 you said she had an option when in the end she didn’t.
I’m sorry for your loss 💕
when u don't have a choice, why do we have a choice as pet owners? if i get that kind of news, i want to option to not put family or myself through that and end it quietly with dignity.
@@larawalker now I’m the total opposite from you. I would still want to live even if I was in vegetive state.
What kind of magic do these parents have that they can get all these doctors and specialists to go along with their demands and not one person reports real and present danger?? I can't get doctors to take real actual injuries seriously, and getting seen by a specialist is like pulling teeth. A friend of mine is suffering from vision loss and vertigo because she woke up cross eyed with debilitating migraines out of the blue, doctors kept putting her off and sending her home telling her she just needed 'corrective lenses'. When she finally went to the eye clinic, they rushed her to a neurologist and she had pressure damaging her optic nerve and needed immediate surgery. I can't understand how these parents can just get their way with no evidence when people are suffering with real issues and can't get heard.
I hear you! I had testing over 10 days ago because of my digestive problems and have elevated liver enzymes, signs of obstruction of my Common Bile Duct, and there is fungus growing on my stomach lining because of all the chronic acid reflux and they haven’t even bothered to call me back and at least get me a prescription to kill this fungus but here I wait and feel like I’m a bother for calling them. I’m a nurse and just can’t believe that the hospital neglected the obvious with this little girl and who puts a DNR (do not resuscitate) order on a little child so easily and to just shut off her feedings? This is just mind boggling.
@@lisaeischens2352 seriously!! I know so many women and mothers that can't get medical attention to literally save their lives or their kids' lives, and this woman and others like her can somehow get all kinds of unnecessary meds and procedures, free care, trips, fundraisers, for nothing. Bottle that energy and ship it to the rest of us, we got things that actually need care. I don't get it.
The mother is probably a narcissist or sociopath, and they can be VERY charming and convincing. Two of my siblings are and they are such good liars.
Lisa I had the same symptoms as you and I did a parasite cleanse protocol! The one I took was a tincture by Now Foods. Look up Organic Olivia’s blog, she has a very comprehensive post on cleanses that might be useful to you. Best of luck x
Agreed. It's insanely hard to get real things believed in...yet lies get instant trust. It is psychotic.
That little girl never had the chance to be a normal child.