CSX Train Runs Fast Over Really Bad Tracks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2014
- This is a video I made of some really bad tracks and an accident waiting to happen. Watch as a CSX fast moving freight on a main line of track cruises over a bad section of track with split ties, grass and weeds growing through the wood, Ties missing and some spikes making this section of track move around as the train fly's by. This video will be updated with new rail ties. Video was released March 30, 2016 and is titled
CSX Repairs Bad Track Bed Before And After Video
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Attention About This Video. I will be releasing a video on April 1st 2016 on this same location on what it looks like after they improved the ties and bed surface. now trains are running 60 mph on them.
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What? That he has a daughter?
My uncle lived in Plant City, Fl. I'm in Wisconsin and visited him a few times. I assume the station was Plant City, Fl. Anyway, he went to vote and I went with him, and the tracks ran about a block or less from where he voted. About a minute after we got there, the AmTrak came through like a rocket on wheels. It was a great site to see. I'll bet that thing was doing nearly 90 mph.
Ric Trexell
I don't understand why your comment was just my name. Did you intend to write more? Ric.
That would have been considered freshly-repaired track back on the PC track I lived near in the 1970's. At least there were spikes and ties.
You can go almost anywhere on tracks and find the same thing. I've live near 3 lines for 30 years and often walk on the tracks. It's normal. Chill.
I have seen worse . I grew up around government owned tracks and for decades nothing was done till they needed to use it. They literally had to repair the line just to run shipments to a navy base every other year. this was back in the 1970/80's It was the old Indianhead Maryland naval warfare base line.
It's amazing how tough it is to derail a train from just bad track work
It is kind of amazing how bad the tracks can be and still hold all that weight, and also maintain the proper width. It's must be some huge forces at work on those ties and the rickety spikes that somehow hold the tracks on them.
+Scott Taylor Look at some of the new rail being laid today. They use concrete ties and steel tie clips. Railroads share your sentiment and strive to keep the track in place as best they can. I remember reading an article about track issues in the powder river basin a few years ago. That portion of railroad has a unique problem with a massive amount of heavy loads going one way and light traffic in the opposite direction on the same rail. The coal loads were actually moving or "worming" the rail southbound. But the light, empty traffic coming back northbound wasn't moving the rail back in the opposite direction. This constant action ended up squeezing the switches and causing issues with those switches operating properly. BNSF recognized this and attempted to balance the load to empty ratios on each mainline track. I don't know if they still have this issue today but i'm certain it is something they continue to monitor.
Awesome video as always!!
Glad to hear the tracks were fixed. Nice vid!
This is NOT horrid, scary or a threat to anyone's life or security. It is a simple matter of needing to be tamped. All track gets pounded down by traffic, every railroad has track inspectors that check these things. The work was not done because of this video, it was done because it was planned months prior. This is cheap media like garbage reporting.
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in Britain this would've been replaced a while back. The Flying Banana (proper name New Measurement Train) would pass over it every 13 weeks and detect a difference in loading, which would then be visually inspected.
Of course, we don't use spikes or wooden ties (sleepers). Instead we use clips and concrete sleepers, which cost more but require less maintenance
We had a similar problem at a tourist trap where I worked. The ties were all rotten and the spikes could be pulled with your fingers. Even worse, the biggest problem was near a station, where a derailment and roll over would have killed people waiting for the train! When I reported it, the GM yelled at ME, claiming that I was needlessly scaring the rubes! Profits trumped safety every time!
Until a lawsuit happens.
Have they fixed the rails there yet?
@@stupideronjupiter This was at Edavile Railroad in Carver, Massachusetts. They went broke in the '90s. New owners bought it and probably fixed it up. I wouldn't know, I'll never go back there!
you are brave standing close to that track !!!
Fantastic road surface,with a nice looking 4x4 going to next town to pick up beers.
Awesome Video Alan!
This is an accident waiting to happen. CSX better come fix these tracks asap!
I've seen worse. There is a section of track by me that is barly used and the tracks are all warped and missing ties. When a train comes over it, the rails bounce up and down and ties become worse.
Since the line is rarely used, I don't thing there gonna fix it anytime soon. It's the old NY&GL rail line.
Great video!
It's really not as bad as you think, there are rails in far worse condition than that being used everyday.
They just dropped off thousands of railroad ties for a few miles. The line is getting a major over haul soon.
Cool train video
It's hauling grain.
They were moving along pretty good!
still meets FRA requirements and congrats you found a mudhole
Millennium force where to start. For one class one railroads choose their capital programs by division. So it could have been getting upgraded for a few reasons that have nothing to do with the state of that track. Was there a traffic increase coming? Or upgrading the rail? Or doing away with wood ties? Lots of reasons they do track work. You can tell they already rebuilt the approach in recent history. It has big rail with double shoulder plates. Every other tie is box anchored. That low spot you are seeing is from the historic track meeting up with the crossing rebuild that was done not that long ago. You can see where a couple of ties need replaced. But none of them are plate cut at all. Don't look down at the track as much as you watch the top of the train go thru that section. No wobbling of the cars equals good solid track. Was not sure if you knew much about track at all?(there is that question mark you wanted)
Railroads are classified, this looks like a lower class track. My division had several different lines with different classes. Speed is not the only indicator of class. I worked on one line that only had one train daily, we went 55 mph but it was a class C railroad, the maintenance was not nearly as up to date as the class A line I worked on. Traffic has a lot to do with maintenance, one train daily doesn't get the maintenance of 50 trains daily. Not being negative just passing on my experience.
Actually this is a high class line Speeds of 60 MPH and about 25 trains a day.
The track has been replaced about 20 miles of ties last couple months ago. This is a heavy traveled main line.
Millenniumforce I just had a thought, good job on your videos. If that one crosstie was replaced it wouldn't look so bad. I enjoy looking at train videos brings back memories. I started at Southern Railway in 1971 and enjoyed every minute of my career. We had a good time and it didn't seem like a job until the big mergers started and ruined everything. I didn't mean to trivialize your video. Thanks!
brainerdrebel CSX doesn't repair stuff in a timely matter. I report a lot of stuff and it goes on for months before they fix something.
brainerdrebel1 week ago
Railroads are classified, this looks like a lower class track. My division had several different lines with different classes. Speed is not the only indicator of class. I worked on one line that only had one train daily, we went 55 mph but it was a class C railroad, the maintenance was not nearly as up to date as the class A line I worked on. Traffic has a lot to do with maintenance, one train daily doesn't get the maintenance of 50 trains daily. Not being negative just passing on my experience.
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Dude with the misinformation you just spewed in your post i KNOW you never worked for a railroad ... class of a railroad has NOTHING to do with track speed ...
first off railroads are classed numerically not alphabetically ...
secondly a railroad's class designation has nothing to do with the trains speed and has everything to do with annual tonnage carried and annual revenue
thirdly the speed that a train is allowed to travel is dictated by the CLASS of TRACK which is also classed numerically with ... class of track is dictated by track conditions that follow standards set by the FRA ... the speeds per class of track i've listed below:
excepted track 10mph Frt - Passenger trains not allowed
class I max speed 10 mph Frt -15mph Pass
class II max speed 25mph Frt -30mph Pass
class III max speed 40mph Frt - 60mph Pass
class IV max speed 60mph Frt - 80mph Pass
class V max speed 80mph Frt - 90mph Pass
class VI max speed 120mph Pass
class VII max speed 125mph Pass
class VIII max speed 160mph Pass
effective tie spacing is the biggest dictator for class of track ... track condition such as in the video is the other biggest dictator for class of track ...
the track in question in the video altho looks bad and is need of much needed attention it falls into class ... without me knowing what the class of track the train is the video seems to be traveling around 40mph which would designate the class of track as class III ... there are no ties missing in the video ... the spikes are holding gage but if not addressed real soon that piece of track will become a definite problem ... the ties aren't the problem ... the ballast being fouled with dirt creating a soft mud spot is the problem ... if the weather was hot 80 degrees and over that piece of track would be weak spot due to steel rail expansion and not being stabilized as it is pumping under load and would definitely have to be restricted to a lower class of track
Trainchaser55 Fuck You, you little Goober! I was giving a generalization not a cut and paste response from a Train Chaser. As a real railroader we always thought Train Chasers were Queer. I won't cash my railroad retirement check this month.
Interesting. Good work, Millennium. Makes one wonder what the rest of the track looks like.
That's crazy how much it bounces!
thanks ,for the heads up
this video was part of a show called raging rocket on tv
+Millenniumforce never heard of it, what's it about?
+Millenniumforce If those cars had jumped the tracks while you were filming you would have had a week of wet dreams, wouldn't you?
(I would have!)
You know I've actually seen this often times on the NYC Subway, as the express passes through the center track at full speed. The rails lift as the trucks/cars pass over them, cooking at what looks to be about 50-60 mph. Nothing's happened yet ....
Great footage to show CSX maintenance. Everyone knows that steel rails that bend this much are causing major stress cracks that we can't see. Just the kind of cracks waiting for a major derailment.
Great sounding horns....
all our tracks here in australia look like that. totally safe!
Yuck! That would scare me too being that close to a tracks as bad as shape as you shone us all. Very video catch, Alan
I bet that bump rattled some of the material inside those hoppers! Nice video.
Good video
A little pumping of the track wont hurt nothing.
The ties look like the ones here on cp's waseca subdivision they don't really now they replaced them. Good to se cp keeping up the track
You wouldn't catch me standing that close to a train for ANYTHING!
I walked away while the train was passing I left my camera that close
Don't get me wrong, I love trains, but only from a distance, or in model trains, lol! I'm glad you walked away and left the camera that close.
Ou have made my day thx a lot dude ur awesome 👍👍👍👍👍👍✌️
In my video " loud and fast freight train" I saw the last containers bouncing :) so cool
Its good that the railway industry is very important in these places and safety is really centered. Sadly, that is not the case in our country. The bad tracks you show here is still good compared to tracks here. Many passengers ride on the trains everyday and they just let the tracks that way.. Imagine the danger brought by negligence.. Anyway, thanks for the videos!
Exceptional tracks.
Glad it didn't fall off!
2013 Goes To Heaven.
We have track like that here in Connecticut, operated by the Providence & Worcester Railroad. They really need to put in concrete ties, but I haven't seen much movement on that. There are stockpiles of concrete ties here and there, but they just sit and wait.
This amount of rail movement is not unusual. Have you ever watched trains go over tracks before??
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Each car on this freight trains is one less truck on our highways!!! They do need to fix this track though, because as is, it's not safe. It's amazing that the train is still coming through at highway speed.
In the late '60s there was an infamous spot on the declining Penn Central's line in Jersey, I believe it was, where the inexcusably shitty trackage caused train cars to lurch from side to side so badly that they were restricted to an absurd 5 MPH to hopefully avoid derailment.
2:30 dang, those tracks are bending almost as much as my mattress...
csx has been doing repairs on this line for the past six months, this same line runs near me in lake panasoffkee.
U need 3 bad ties in a row for the track to be taken out of service, this defect is called a "mud hole. It can be fixed fairly easy with fresh ballast.
I have worked on track, trains and signals for nearly 10 years and I have helped with track inspections. I agree, there are a few old ties at this location, but they are solid and there is nothing to worry about. Pumping may lead to problems months on down the road, but there is no problem here now to worry about at this time. Line, surface and gauge all look good to me as evidenced by the way the train glides over the track and the wear patterns on the track. And as for weeds? I have run trains over heavily weeded track and have had a hard time keeping the train moving as per wheel slippage. It takes a hayfield for it to reach that point, but even that is not dangerous at low speeds, just annoying and hard on track. These couple of weeds are NOTHING and barely have so much as a theoretical effect on either the train or the track. All these other professionals are right. No problems here. I suggest you learn a little bit about track and trains before you post videos like this.
+David Bush I agree Dave..Ive also seen it thousands of times! Even the geometry car would pass it..
Hey Dave thank you for answering the question in a through and respectful manner. You are a value asset to your company. Some folk should take a sip of your kool-aid before answering an important question such as this!
+David Bush I would renew some of old ties with a few new ones, and give
it a good tamping. Otherwise, it looks 'safe' for now. I am a retired Track Inspector for Metro North.
+wilber53 What about the TC 81? The TC 81 is similar (only by looks) but has a different function. The TC 81s function is to detect
rail defects, e.g. broken rail that is not visible, head web separation, etc.
David Bush I see his point of view. This is dangerous. I was a Firefighter/Paramedic for over 17 years. I have worked many derailments over tracks that was like this and tracks just like this is what caused the derailment. I don't care what you say, this is very dangerous and very dangerous to the community in this area. This man is trying to stop a disaster before it happends. You my friend need to understand why he is doing this! He is trying to get the word out before a derailment happends!
Besides the bad tracks,that was actually a really long train man.
American trains are SOOOOO long
It carries cargo, why not bring a lot of it than multiple trips.
It depends. Loaded trains and empty trains have different weight and length.
trainn can be nearly twice as long when carrying empty train cars, then loaded ones.
yeah but our passenger rail sucks, that basically goes for all of north America.
America is sooooo BIG!
The only downside is that it's a nightmare for traffic sometimes, but it's necessary for the industry.
Looks like the train went over fine
That up and down is like my grandpa driving but instead of up and down, it's go and stop..
Yeah, it needs to be fixed up, but it's really not too bad. Trains can run over rough spots like this without any problem at all. As long as most of the track is good (which it appears to be) and the bad track segment is short, it won't start the cars rocking much and almost certainly won't cause a wreck.
It would have been nice to see how the line reacted when the locomotives went over them as well and not just the freight cars.
Sort of like the stress cracks in aircraft structures that are marked for repair but left in service. Got to know when it's really dangerous or just on the attention list. Diff between a red x and fix when able.
I’ve seen worse, I’m near CP’s main line and their track just south of Toronto are missing ties and screws. Plus there are broken rail joints that forces CP to go only 30 mph. They run usually 2 times a day on the track.
I would spray paint the rails bright orange so someone comes out to look at the track....
JJ
For many years in the '70s-'80s I photo'd the PRR/PC/CR “Corridor” electrified mainline (NY-Wash, DC)... sometimes more than 20-25 trains per hour, 80+ mph, GG1's with passenger and freight trains, many M-U passenger units, E44's, all kinds of Diesel lash-ups, etc. The rails normally flexed downward a bit on wooden ties... but when a heavy freight would take a siding leading to an industrial yard, with heavy loads, the poorly maintained track would sink into the ground on one side, making the cars tilt radically... so the limit was about 10 mph... several times I was caught between such a train and a steep embankment with thorn bushes... and the cars looked like they were going to squash me like a bug... and at 10 mph it took for-EV-er for those trains to get by. In those years freight derailments on the nearby poorly maintained CNJ were daily occurrences. I was surprised to see this CSX freight, a rather longish one, take that track at that speed. But that looks like welded rail (“ribbon rail”), perhaps somewhat less prone to flip... the freight siding track I was describing above was the old 39-foot sections before it was replaced.
They have just replaced 10 miles of track and ties and this location was done
Ah yes. CSX 855. I like that one, along with 5391.
that car waiting for the train to end lmfao
It's very crazy of a train that contains nearly 100 coaches passing through the track!
Its called profile and im sure csx has the appropriate slow order in place if it needs it. After all Csx loses money on each derailment. And if it is that bad the train crews report it to the dispatcher and the dispatcher contacts the help desk and the help desk contacts the track inspector and the track inspector comes out puts a level board on it or a string line and applies the correct slow order if needed.
The covered hopper express. The railroad needs to replace those old worn out ties on that track real soon.
ducktape works wonders,,,lol
That's probably what CSX will do to save money. LOL LOL LOL
CSX has had a lot of accidents, track problems, won't participate in Railfan events, has had a lot of No Train horn zones and is anti steam.
No Train Horn Zones are dictated by the Towns and Cities, not by the railroads.
Erich Diebold You have to have an engineer sitting on the seat box to blow the whistle, some trains are being remotely controlled with no engineer. SO BE VERY CAREFUL AS YOU APPROACH A RAILROAD CROSSING.
jarhead4God And sometimes trains with no engineer could mean one thing..........RUNAWAY TRAIN!!!
Watch the rails state on argentina at 2012, these are tracks on bad state, good video.
CSX.....Crashes, Spills, and Xplosions......
I have see way worse areas of track near my home here on a UP line at a small trestle section. trains run over the section at around 55 MPH heading out of town and some trains are heavy loaded coal trains with mid train and end train DPU's and one track section has alot of spikes missing from it almost a good 10 - 15 feet worth. This section I mention I have personally called the UP offices locally and addressed the section by milepost and what I saw. The reason i have such a concern is this part of the line runs through the middle of a residential neighborhood and aside from coal trains this line frequents chemical tanker cars carrying methanol and LPG gas. I do not know to date if the tracks have been maintained yet or not but nothing has derailed either.
At least it was in better shape than the whole Maumee & Western line was.
I think that you understand tracks much better than do the permanent way.
good job
Wow, that's some flex.
Nice.
this is how tracks look all over kentucky
looks fine to me
In the Netherlands a track in this state would have been taken out of service immediately. Also happy that they don't use the horn all the time when approaching a crossing.
Half an hour with some fresh ballast, a couple of men with shovels and maybe a jack - that track would not move !
Foamers gonna foam...
if you think this is bad you will crap your pants if you see the maumee and western!
+TheBrantfordRailfan least they know to go slow over it and not 60
Justin Noker
it's still pretty bad though, the locomotives lean and bounce all over the place, very liable to derail even at low speeds
thata the difference in all infrastructure between north states and south states. north continues to use outdated rails that have no maintenance. in southern states they seem to just go and replace as much everytime they can of find issue.
Don't miss: Railfan Crushed by CSX Train at Site of Bad Track.
damn i have seen tracks move before but not near as bad as this. cool video too by the way
Cool, I do think they should fix that before someone gets heart!!! Keep the great videos coming!!!
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You can hear every time it goes over that crack it makes a huge noise. It would be scary to drive a train like that if it bounced off the track cause it moves like that.
like this video reason good info.
Hah! Looks like an entire subdivision of the Union Pacific I used to run on.
Who forgot to buy more fishplates and track rubbers - yes you billy
I see that problem alright. One of my ancestors healy worked on the track s daily many years ago. County wicklow station Ireland.
The line here bounces but not as bad as that. Dang.
First of all, thank you for videotaping for all to see. I like the way you took time out to explain this before the train came through. I do not see why they will not do a way with wooden ties and go to cemented ties....
The tracks where I live are much worse. But that's because kids vandalize the tracks. They somehow got a hold of the tools to rip out spikes, remove ties, and one time someone did that and knocked the rail over! Luckily the line was repaired before it was used later on. If a train derailed there, the gas pipeline running along the tracks would've ignited and wiped out half the town. The vandals were never caught, unfortunately.
how does this train not derail, its a miracle in mechanics and gravity.
They definitely need to issue a slow order until that area is fixed.
Seen one like this my area a few years ago. The next time I saw it, the repairs were done. That's very dangerous when trains are flying very fast.
Why is it dangerous?
liking it
It is obviously that the City has an under the table business with either the funeral home or the insurance company or both. Those tracks are going to crack any second, unreal. Thanks for sharing.
They have since been fixed.
Good news, thanks
When you see trains swaying back n forth as they travel, thats bad track!
84 cars wow :o with 2 ES40DC and a SD40 ? awesome