CSX Trains Slow Orders Not Followed Trains Cut Parade In Thirds
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- This is a video I made while at the Plant City Florida's Christmas night parade of two CSX intermodal trains cutting the parade in thirds while cruising at about 30 or higher MPH when there was a slow order for 10 MPH. The Plant City police were furious when the train went through town that fast with thousands of people right on the tracks siding with children.
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Regardless of the parade, the tracks are still RR property, whatever they decide to do is to their discretion, the crossing activated, and horn was blown, all proper precautions were taken to avoid accidents. If they couldn't figure out get out the way on the oncoming train... well... you know
If I were the crew; standard horn salute you'd get from me long long short long. You still get hit; fuck ya
Trex1094 if I ran the railroad i I would either fire the dispatcher and engineer or put them on suspension
That's why you don't run the railroad
Officer! Pull over that speeding train!!!!!! Lolol as if. This was great, love these kinds of videos.
Trex1094 The town sent a slow order to CSX to which they agreed to.Trains scheduled during that time where to go no faster than 10 mph in town. Now it's either at the fault of the engineers ignoring it or the dispatcher failing to notify the engineers via a yellow signal plus notifying a slow order in the cargo script. Someone likely got fired if CSX saw this video.
I thought the train would Pass when da beat drops XD
The "turn down for what" was just perfect for the train blasting thru hahaha
Hahahaha!!!! I thought I was only one waiting for a train to blast by right when the beat dropped 😂😂😂
I thought the same thing i was waiting for the train to blast pass myself
Is the Troy Kohl in a 1/2 point in plate in half
Turn down for what huh? More like slow down for what?
Hahaha a furfaggies aww how cute
Intermodal and Express trains have authority to over-ride speed restrictions at the discretion of the Dispatcher - unless it is for track maintenance or specific orders due to track conditions mandating restricted speeds...for a situation like this - Milleniumforce - CSX did NOT need a speed restriction on those trains - plus the reason for the police to be guarding the crossing as they knew the trains were scheduled - CSX most likely informed them of these movements therefore - no reason for the the restricted speed on these TWO intermodal High Priority trains. I know for a fact that under no circumstances on any railroad is an intermodal train supposed to stop unless it's an absolute emergency. They are HIGH Priority - and they don't have to stop unless they derail or hit something or other train traffic is slowing them down due to an emergency or problem with another train, a Dispatcher is not doing their job, or track Maintenance of Way crews are on the line.
Dana Morrow But that almost sounds similar to rich people back in the day who didnt care about the safety of workers and people. They were rich millionaires who owned and ran factories and felt they had the right to do what they wanted despite safety. I say that Safety is First and I felt that CSX neglecting that rule, despite their anti steam policy.
If the police requested it, and the railroad agreed to it, the engineer would be violating company rules. Considering the speed restrictions are set by dispatch, if the engineer disobeyed them, he is the one in trouble.
lol you dumb, if you know that there will be trains and danger, shouldn't you just avoid it? They still do have athourity
agreed
I watched a 6 hour late Q025 own a slow order in folkston. It was like it existed for all the trains before and after him. But not him! LOL
I like your description on how the police weren't happy with the train going fast with people near the tracks. Well, one people shouldn't be near the tracks and 2 they shouldn't have a parade crossing a railroad crossing
Agreed
Officer pull over that speeding train!!!
Fax, I strongly agree with you
Here is your gold star: 🌟
High priority Q trains (Intermodals and UPS) do not have to comply with event related slow orders. Neither train crew or dispatcher is in the wrong as long as the rule book validates their train to be an exception.
+csxcw44ac that's right I don't care what most of these people say 99% have never been on the inside of our engines and it doesn't matter what the cops liked I guarantee you no two trains would run a slow order if they did you would see that train being stopped and the trainmaster and roadforeman relieving that crew people wise up we don't just do what we want out there just like the guy who made this video train runs slow order cuts train in thirds nearly hits 1000 kids and cops are mad give me a break we had a few pig trains at corbin ky but we didn't have any event exceptions but we were a coal terminal they probably have to have that north and south they run a lot of Q trains that's why everyones timetables are different
csxcw44ac From a CSX engineer, I can tell you that is insanely false. NO CSX trains have the authority to bypass a slow order, no matter the priority level.
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Not that it makes a difference anyways. Something of that mass going 35 instead of 65 is still gonna smash you hard.
csxcw44ac, this comment is truthful. People shouldn't even be standing that close to the tracks in the first place. So it isn't the train driver's fault as to why people were in danger, it is the people thereselves. Those people chose to be that close when the trains were going by. They chose to not be aware of their surroundings. And police should have kept them 25 feet back during the entire parade even when trains were not Rollin through in the first place. Also I am in support of the train driver for getting the train where it is supposed to be on time.
This comment is right.
2 big fat thumbs up for you
Here is your gold star: 🌟
the reason the train is going too fast...
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random I have to agree with you. If any CSX train is carrying time sensitive UPS traffic, nothing should get in it's way to reach it's destination on time, not even a parade!
Colin Mulder well, i only said that as a joke, and i didn't know it was true
random Nope, it's a known fact on not just CSX but other class one railroads. Even back in the 90's before all the mega mergers.
random In addition to anti-steam, CSX has had a lot of accidents and hardly gives a shout about basic safety.
+Erich Diebold Amen, or history.
is it me or did the second train seem to be picking up speed?
Yes MacGyver it was.
I am shocked and amazed that these two trains totally ignored a slow speed order. With all of the people around, one misstep could have been a very tragic catastrophe. Does anyone think the two engineers got into a lot of hot water over this?
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Sorry I made this train go fast because
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killer_elmo71 lol
People shouldn't trespass on the tracks though man, that's their own fault, matter of fact, the police are supposed to arrest people for doing that lmao. I'd do the same thing i were the engineer.
Engineers should've followed slow orders though
it was stated for 10 MPH and I'm pretty shure that it is acceptable for a parade to go on a crossibg
CSX has a right to use those tracks an go what ever speed they want. No little pride will stop them they need to move fright not give into some little pride.
If any CSX train is carrying time sensitive UPS traffic, nothing should get in it's way to reach it's destination on time, not even a parade!
Ns train boy nfc7
@@dominiquegreen-simmons5074 calm down babe
@@colinmulder6806 yessir
You mean "parade" yes?
I like Csx trains
Who plans a parade over a RR track? Where is this exactly?
+Lynn T happens every year and it is in Plant City Florida
Millenniumforce Lord have mercy, that was scary!
I lived in Central Florida for 11 years. CSX tracks traverse many cities in the area with tracks running through the middle of the town.
+Lynn T p
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Yep a lot of city's in America where built there because of the railroad. This might be one of those
I understand your concern, but both trains were high-priority intermodal that compete against OTR tractor-trailers. Was the slow order for all trains lr for certain trains like manifest, unit oil and ethanol, etc. Conversely, I've seen school children walking in thr track gauge right in front of crossing ghards!
Did everyone a favor drowning out that braindeath music.
turn down for what csx stile
tiny markiplier your right
If I'm correct, event related slow orders do do not effect over night or ups intermodal trains.
I remember one time talking to another railfan, or csx employee and them mentioning that.
+SeaboardRailfanner untrue
No CSX freight trains (no matter the priority) have the right to bypass a slow or restricting order.
Great Video! CSX= How Tomorrow Fails
LOL LOL LOL
Millenniumforce XD
Sure, dumbass.
Try doing without CSX for a week and we'll see how YOUR tomorrow moves.
nutt1674 Ok back off. That was a joke. If your gona start being like that, you WILL Regaret it.
CSX Crash Scream Xplode
CSX: How tomorrow moves in the wrong direction. =P
Personally, I say a parade SHOULD NOT be allowed to cross a busy railroad crossing, and the city board should not OK it! It can take a long while for that kind of info to reach a train crew. The call is made to the RR's regional office, info routed to the general dispatcher, who then sends said info to the dispatcher of the city's division, who then notifies the train crews affected; a time consuming process! Sometimes, that info does not get to those intended. Remember, a couple of years ago, a train hit a parade float in Texas ..Midland, I think, causing injuries. To hold rail traffic for a parade will cause traffic bottle-necks for the RR. Now, would you want to have that train pass by in a 2 - 3 minutes, or take maybe 10 minutes? As I said, a parade SHOULD NOT cross a busy RR crossing!
Actually the midland parade people were killed... but it wasn't the train's fault.
I still don't understand why would put a parade though a busy train line???
I died at the first one XD. How to greet a train. Step one, plan a parade. Step 2, put on "Turn Down for What". Step 3, a train is coming. Start recording.
P.S. They didn't give a damn.
Joe Dohn LOL
LOL
I love the music with the train and K5HL!!!
What they'll do is give you a 20mph speed restriction where the parade or event is happening, and you'll have to just comply with it and make noise (blow the horn) as you go through there. Both trains appear to be going 20mph and blew the horn which complies with the dispatchers instructions.
Supposedly they had a 10MPH order through the area. Unless I'm truly naive, THAT"S the speed they should have been going.
They can go whatever speed they want.
No, they’re going way over 20
@@TNandTXRailfan why don’t you just keep railfanning and those of us actually doing the work will keep doing what we’re doing.
@@rockymidlandrr chill my bro, no need to get all offensive
Any one thought about how long the parade would have been stopped if the trains had gone ten mph. It was a no win ether way.
Most likely the two Intermodal trains were High Priorty maybe thats why they didn't follow the restricted speed orders. plus both Engineers layed on the horn as they approached the crossing.
That could be true!
Cand0002 I have to agree with you. If any CSX train is carrying time sensitive UPS traffic, nothing should get in it's way to reach it's destination on time, not even a parade!
I kinda agree because there might have been some really important cargo that had to get to its destination on time.
ToxicVenom EXACTLY!, If it's time sensitive traffic, nothing and I mean NOTHING should stand in the way of an HOT CSX intermodal. NOT even a parade!
No CSX freight train (no matter the priority) has the right or ability to bypass a slow or restriction order. Those 2 trains probably just never got the order or disobeyed it directly. If that was the case, I'm sure they paid for it dearly.
-JG
In Seguin, Texas I have witnessed the city police dept stop trains and issue them tickets for speeding. Nothing like seeing a police cruiser stopping a freight train and issuing a speeding ticket.
Intermodal trains like this have such a big priority, that they are exempt from some slow orders.
trains are better than stupid praids
well considering the type of company csx is and how it's run I am not surprised. Ns train boy just cause a consist happens to be on its home line doesn't give it right of way let alone the right to just do whatever. Freight is never more important then human life, unless it's yours my ignorant chum.
I can see very good safety reasons for the restriction, shame the drivers could not. As you say, Alan, If something had gone wrong it could have caused panic and who knows what. I suspect the drivers dont have children. Those trains were not even CLOSE to 10mph.Keep up the good work, Alan.
Music is the HORN SHOW not the parade music!!!!!!!!
XD
If the town was concerned about safety, they should have picked a different route for the parade. Selfish parade planners put public at risk.
The same thing happened one night this past Christmas. A NS train in my area was supposed to be under a slow order at 25mph because a the routed traffic flow for a Christmas lights show but I think they forgot because they blew through here at least at twice that speed...
RailRoadChaserNC As far as I know - if there is a medium speed or slow speed order on the trackside signals, these are mandatory including signals to be ready to stop at half the distance that the conductor can see. Ciao, L
+lancelot1953 no not at all the only time a train is to run at restricted speed is if he gets a restricting signal or permission to pass a stop signal by the dispatcher and it doesn't matter what the conductor sees it's what the crew is looking out for and you do know the engineer is operating the train
its getting the trains out the yards, getting them going, getting to point B ON TIME, keep the customers happy. The parade, people know there is a mainline that has more than 100 trains a day that goes thru, common sense, when the grade crossing bells ring, STAY OFF THE TRACKS. Imagine if ANY railroad have to stop or hold trains for every town that wanna HAVE PARADES crossing the TRACKS, there would be gridlock on that railroad PERIOD. The railroad will NOT take kindly to halting their TOP PRIORITY and Q trains and theyre getting paid a plenty good dollar for them. Here in Chicago rail traffic gets so bad where rail crews on CP leave Bensenville Yard at 4am and has to go to BRC Clearing Yard which is on the southwest side of the city and it sometimes takes them a full 12 HOURS to get there because of rail traffic congestion. Most of the time it takes 8 hours to get there. By car, it takes 40 minutes.
WildWolf Multimedia not even close, just 10 to 25 trains a day. and the busiest line can have almost 200 trains a day
If there were no slow orders posted on the daily train bulletin or if the dispatcher didn't issue a EC1 then no were rules broken.
**TURN DOWN FOR WHAT!!**
train flies thru in notch 8 doing 80+ MPH.
that woulda been epic😲😲
The Grinch was the driver of the train
Definitely some one who would dislike Christmas
Nope.
rodenthideout no he was trying to get to his gfs house
@@KandiKlover r/woosh
@@KandiKlover r/youngpeopleyoutube
Why should the trains have to slow down if everyone was being the gates they wouldnt have to slow down
Everyone and including children were standing or sitting on the track. All of them were stupid as hell.
What idiots.
Train's Of The West. Agreed
Joe Dohn Actually, many are stupid, and are complete idiots. Plus these trains CAN'T slow down.
Thats one reason why.
I hope CSX got notified about those 2 trains and got those 2 train drivers in huge trouble.
If the 1st cargo train followed slow command, there's no excuse for the 2nd to disregard the existing command.
THIS"""CITY""MUST"""DO""NOT"""HAVE"""A""PARK"""????
I hear a Amtrak Siver star horn before the train comes
In twice
I did not
That was really dangerous, especially the 2nd CSX! other than that, nice work!
The best place for a Parade By A Railroad Crossing Mabye this was how they planed to be by one?
I ❤️the "turn down for what" song
A Railfan named Joshua Evans said this video was clickbait sue to due not having slow orders, I honestly wonder if it's true or not. even if it is, I still think it's a great video.
Alex Joshua Evans is an ass because he don't know the truth from a lie. me and my friends know him personally and he is a little cry baby.
Millenniumforce He does defamation by lying about you. He told me a bunch of stuff that isn't true at all. He said you wanted to get a bunch of people to jump him which makes no sense at all. I mean you wouldn't even do that so I don't know where he got that from
LOL wow he is such a drama queen. I always wondered about that boy. He used to use the word Epic in every sentence. Ever since I told the guys at the Plant city rail museum how he was treating me they all lost total respect for him.
Millenniumforce Dayum. Before I met him people said he called csx police on me. I got so pissed about that when I wasn't even tresspassing.
I told the Plant City police how he likes to speed after trains and drive recklessly and they were going to keep an eye out for him. but that was a year ago.
Honestly, if I was on a float, I would love this
The train 🚆 the plate in half
Did the crews not get the orders? And plus the railroad owns the tracks not the police. Heck the railroads own 5 feet of property on both sides of the tracks.
5:57 Is that another train? It kind of sounds like the Amtrak.
It’s a K5LA.
They should have relocate this parade away from the train tracks that is Mighty dangerous for those trains going so fast around those people
People shouldn't be on active train tracks. It is foolishness itself.
remember when UP took over the Espee years ago, rail traffic was so bad, UP had trains parked just outside Chicago all the way down to the US-Mexico border line. Amtrak's Sunset Ltd was ALWAYS late, 10 hours to 28 hours late because of frieght trains that have stopped, no crews on them, couldnt get trains in the yards, couldnt get them out the yards and the shippers were furious and didnt have no choice but to use trucking companies. It was mismanagement and mis communication and UP mgmt using UP style mgmt and SP guys using SP style mgmt AT THE SAME TIME. This lasted for 3 years before it cleared up--thats when the government stepped in to run it right and get it cleaned up. I do remember when UP had every passing siding FULL from California to Texas because of the mess.
Kinda scary, especially the loud horn in the dark.
Can anyone give an idea for the train symbols for these two HOTSHOTS?
Once I seen this train and the driver was acting like he was a year late, I never see trains going over 60 on this one stretch of line, this train was going 80 or 90, possibly even close to 100, all I remember was it was going so fast you could only recognize it was CSX by the colors, forget trying to read it, it was moving too fast
+Justin Noker it was going no more than 35
+Justin Noker 80-90????really? wow,,,,,this train was not going fast...like said before no more than 35 if even
Paul Rude yeah, this train wasn't as fast
Unbelievable; were the drivers reprimanded...............Merry Christmas from me in Llanblethian, Wales,UK. where trains are shorter and slower !!
I will say this... at least they weren't going any faster...I would also think they would slow down after realizing that there's a parade.
Shame this crossing was changed soo much -_-
I am a police explore and we had a christmas parade, and two CSX trains came thru(look at the video on my TH-cam, the engineer was really nice) and in the middle of the first train, (there were two) these two kids were tresspassing on the train tracks(look no older than 12) i told them they need to get of the train tracks before something bad happend, and they did listen to me!! There was a speed limit set to 10-15 mph!!
It really makes sick to see this...I love CSX and seeing this...I'm at a lose for words. However this is a great video! Love watching you're videos millenniumforce
Yikes. Thank goodness no one got hurt. It seemed like the second train was going faster than the first one. Seemed closer to 40.
Yes the first one was about 30 and the second one was about 35 to 40. The engineers are going to get cited by someone. The Plant City police told me that they were going to get in touch with CSX about this.
Millenniumforce Was CSX aware of the parade Alan?
Jared Klock Yes they were about 24 hours in advance
Millenniumforce ok so then it is CSX's fault
Jared Klock Yes plant city officials are getting intouch with CSX to find out why these trains blew through. All the other times in my videos they creep by except this time.
I would love to be there I would of chased the train
Hi
This is scary before we were about to start a chrismas parade down here in Tifton ,ga a Norfolk southern train comes threw really scary
Your grammar is scary.
Lol
Did you specifically hear Dispatch call the trains prior to the area to give an AC1 on the slow order? Millenniumforce
The slow order was in place 1 day prior with the city of Plant City and CSX
I have the knowledge of knowing because I am friends with the officials
If the order was given, but not placed on the paperwork nor Dispatch calling the train, then the trains will run timetable speed. And then people better use the brain on their heads
Very understandable but what scared me was the little children running around the tracks or 1 may have gotten lose from the parents hands and fell or ran right in front of the train. A very scary thought.
Q188 and Q045 were not given EC-1 speed restrictions by JF Dispatch that night, so they had no reason to reduce speed. Torice Sullivan
Wow CSX employee and two police officers went at it about how fast they went through also Benny said there was a restriction.
And at night unless it Miami, Rio, etc?
BOI I GOT SOOO MAD CAUSE THOES TRAIN CAME but then again crossing time
i m glad it didnt happen in arlington because if there was a parade there, union pacific would not slow down if it was an intermodal or stack train.now if it was a manifest, it would b slow, like, in plant city, a csx manifest would slow down
that csx k5la is so much nicer to listen to than that noise in the background at 3:07..GREAT VID!!
Ah, CSX... I'm really not liking these guys as much as I used to...
Who here is more at fault? The railroad or the city? BTW, something may have happened that made the trains go faster.
BOI I GOT SOOO MAD CAUSE THOES TRAIN CAME but then again crossing time
Any evidence pinpointing the communications breakdown at CSX®? I suspect that the message never got through Dispatch, resulting in orders inconsistent with a 10 MPH section through Plant City. Not too many conductors or engineers would run at the normal track limit in violation of speed-limit orders to the contrary, as such action is grounds for firing as well as cause for a Federal criminal complaint.
I guess CSX didn't get the memo
And the city probably won't get an apology from CSX. Maybe the Florida DOT should get them to elevate the track going through city centers. Nice video Alan, thanks
**"Turn Down for What" starts playing**
Train: **cuts off parade**
Also Train: **gone**
**"Cha Cha Slide" starts playing**
Okay.. And I know from seeing some of the train vids. that some Us trains goes down the middle of the city.. but who in the hell makes a parade cross train tracks? unless there is no other way ofc.
I mean.. sure slower might be safer in this situation, but look how long it takes for the train to pass. again. why make the parade go that way?
The important thing the CSX CEO makes his $15 million this year to pay taxes on his $3 millon house. (In a gated community)
Well looks like CSXT did not give a crap.
The Plant City Police Department Did A Great Job Keeping Everyone Off The Tracks So No One Got Hurt Or Killed..
Video starts at 1:04
Nice video! I heard them playing The Cupid Shuffle.
Let's see....10mph for a mile or mile n a half freight train.......May as well cnx the silly parade....it's gonna be awhile!!!
This is why you set up fences or gates for events like this because its never safe near the tracks and you only have rail road officials and police present in the crossing line. If that second train does not follow orders to go slow in that area then the crew will be finned in a restricted zone. Also they will be responsible for any lives they put in hand.
How can the writer make this kind of statement? It would be very un likely for 2 trains to fail to slow down if they had formal train orders to slow at that location. I would guess that someone failed to send the info to the railroad and or the railroad may have failed to issue the orders all together. Where did the writer get info for his reporting on all this? I tend to guess what we have is a bit of clic baiting going on here.
Those trains have the right priority to interrupt a parade because trains are more important since they carry freight and makes some of the economy in America, so regardless those trains have the priority to interrupt a parade. Even crossing when an Ambulance is rushing to the hospital
Rockford Illinois has parades that go over the both the Union Pacific Kd line and the Canadian National Freeport sub and Up trains stop and cn trains go through at 20 mph during a parade
Millenniumforce in Springfield, IL at one time Norfolk Southern freight trains were going fast and then in 2008 they had to go slow at a certain speed.
CSX should have stopped all rail traffic into the city or at least diverted them around during the parade. 10 mph is still not safe with that many people.
A city can not put out a slow order for trains. I was a dispatcher for 20 years. I had city cops try to stop trains and even tried to block a crossing. 'when the train did not slow down they figured that wasn't a good idea.
not trains promblem
and scure them for saying boo at train
looks like they were only going 2.998e+8 meters per second! they should have sped up! dissapointed
I can't believe cxs do that. They never notice there's some people nearby the tracks. Just slow down Cxs
As mentioned it appears the train is obeying the slow orders. It's not speeding
The slow order was supposedly 10MPH. Do you think those trains were going 10MPH? I certainly don't.
+Cats01 about 35 mph
They were going at least 30 bare minimum. They were certainly speeding
Csx Charlotte Sub
These people at csx do not know how to drive
Twenty feet from the track is the standard for a reason. Your parade is more important than freight? Really?
I heard turn down for what
csx intermodals r longer than union pacific intermodals
+carbon2983 no not all the time a lot has to do with tonnage length is a big problem if you have a non clearing train that has to go 150 miles it grinds everything to a stop