My only issue about Splinter death is that they overplayed him diying so many darn times that, when he actually did kick the bucket, I was more like "I guess this time is final". Edit: I'll make myself more clear: I am not saying that Splinter died many times, but they sure liked to make us think he WOULD die more than once, make it SEEM he did died.
I don't recall there being 'that many times'.. we knew he wasn't dead at the end of Season 2, just badly injured. and Season 3's death was shocking but they were racing to undo that. It felt heavy when it happened with Super Shredder killing Splinter because, idk, it just FELT final...like...shit..that really did just happen. no redo. its real.
The turtles are fifth teen they're not 13 it's a it's a turtle's are 13 then that means they would not B15 in the in April was born in 2001 and the turtles Born in 2002 they would not born in 2004 or 2003 they would be 13 or 14 they are 15
You failed to mention how much of a badass this Splinter is when it comes to fighting. Every time he has to go out on the field he effortlessly beats everyone's ass to the point where the Turtles' enemies start running, honestly his fights were some of the best in the show
I think they were referring to the fights where splinter used legit only 2 fingers and sent enemies flying into stone walls Or when rock steady and bee bop entered the sewers then legit got slaughtered by splinter
@Adrian OMG!!! That was awsome! It was the best Donnie episode for that series! (note, I'm still on season one XD) but sadly THEY DID ABUSULETLY NOTHING WITH IT. WHAT THE SHELL!?
I wasn't a fan of how many fake-out deaths they did with Splinter, but that's maybe just me, he was my favourite Splinter and I just wanted the poor guy to get a break XD
The only "fake out" death was Season 3 since Season 4 was them racing to undo it. The end of Season 2 was just a really great, heavy ending. You knew he wasn't dead. It was more of a "how are they going to come back from this" situation rather than "holy shit Splinter was just killed"
There is one thing you forgot to mention when talking about splinter. Dont get me wrong I agree with you in every regard, but when it comes to fighting he did not just fight like a Ninja Master, he also faught like a Rat, running on all Fours, using Claws, Teeth and Tail. The only thing coming close to that was 80s Splinter Biting that one Board in the Intro song but that was it.
Freakin love the chorus of the 2012 theme song, sounds like an emergency siren calling the turtles into action. But yeah, this whole series was basically a love letter to everything Turtles, and it was glorius.
It was the brand saying they know the difference between doing the job right and doing it wrong because they proved how to fail with Rise of the WTF (cuz there ain't any way Rose is TMNT).
I loved the expansion on Raph's character from this one! It kind of started in the 2003 (which I love equally to 2012 btw) as in this one they made him a big sweetheart inside. In 2003, he was also sweet at times, and very overprotective of his family, but the intensity of this does not compare to 2012. Raph is very empathic, and he is very emotionally connected to himself, and can therefore understand the emotions of others. He was the one to tell April to think of Donnie when she was under the Aeons spell and about to kill him, and he was the one who told Tang Shen to follow her heart when she had to choose between Yoshi and Saki. This is also why he has such a deep connection to his pets and his love interest, (also why he gets the furthest into a relationship with his love interest out of all the turtles). This show directed his tough anger toward others for hurting his family. He is so dedicated and emotionally connected to them in the theme of family that he willing to give up his life for any of them. This made his character so multi-dimentional, and this is what made his such a fantastic character in my opinion.
Thank you! Even though I am very late with my reply, I am pleased that other people see his true nature too. The accusations people often throw at him are never true (eg 'he is always angry, weak, a pussy, never emotional, never a hero), and he has so much depth! He is my favourite character ever. I'm glad there are other fans of him out there.
As someone who can empathize easily with Raphael, I can say that his mature variant in the Mad Max style episode was his most emotionally advanced completion as he was taking a strong leading role due to his years of emotional learning experiences and self-control to the point where he genuinely only cared and didn't lash out like a prick, just genuinely cared.
I would have been more okay with a sad ending had they actually spent more time in the emotional impact of it instead of mad max chase scenes. Imagine seeing the last fight the turtles and humans failed. Seeing Casey and April die probably would have made me cry.
I prefer that. I kinda thought when first watching it, that it would pan out and reveal it was just a story Raph was writing. They did that sort of thing before in the comics.
I didn't like season 3 in the woods. I wasn't a big fan of the space episodes. And tales were hit or miss. I always felt the shredder and splinter arcs were the best parts
what annoys me is people who hate or refuse to try this based on it being CGI, April being a teen or it being made by Nick. BTW did you ever do an honest review of Gargoyles ?
Great points. Having April and Casey be teenagers was a smart and logical move. It didn't detract from the storyline at all, if not making it better. After all, the Turtles are teenagers. I was impressed by this version. Im thinking about a petition to Nickelodeon to bring this back.
sasamichan Judging it solely based on that is very closed minded. I’ve watched it through the entire way so while I do like it just fine, I think I still prefer the 2k3 series. Don’t get me wrong this is fine, but I really didn’t like a few of the elements in it, namely all the story backtracking all the time (Karai must be away from the turtles), the mutants on Shredder’s team having frozen character development (what did Bradford and Xever do after getting mutated), the lack of varied locations for most of the series (space not withstanding, and yes I know this was a limitation of CGI but it’s still a bit boring to see the same set pieces used over and over again, 2k3 really didn’t have this limitation due to being hand drawn) or really how by the end of the series they feel like they’re exactly where they started, just that Splinter isn’t there. And the less said about whatever that Mad Max thing they were doing, the better.
I really glad that this person in the cartoon community talking about other cartoons like this other than shitting on teen titans go and overpraising steven universe
THIS IS THE MOST AWESOME REVIEW OF THIS SHOW I'VE EVER SEEN!!! But, the final season was aired almost completely out of order and you went mostly by airdate than the true order they were supposed to be in. Still, this was TRULY AMAZING!!! XD
My favorite season is season 2 because the story arcs intertwine incredibly well with the finale; Slash, The Rat King, Irma, the Mutations, Casey Jones, Tiger Claw, Karai, this was the best season
@@anteupmatrix1154 Same I didn't like the later episodes of season 3 and season 4 was jumping the shark by a huge marine when a show tries to take place in space it usually dies out. Like when they try to drastically change genres like why? Most of the space adventures were boring and felt like filler the fact that villains we loved like shredder and his minions were not present at all really hurt it for me and if they were going to kill the krang at least replace them with something just as substantial. My favorite season would be season 1 since like in the 1984 TMNT the first season was very good and could have been the end of the show with how good everything was built up. First season 1 was simple no ridiculous massive arcs with a lot of characters to keep track of and remember. Second the characters got fleshed out alot in episodes like when Ralph kept losing his temper with Leo in training and in battle and they learned to work together near the end and become more closer. With my favorite episode being how the undermine Mikey and Donny as the lesser fighters but at the end of the day they learn that everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses. Third the finale was great it wasn't so incomprehensive where it was hard to follow unlike season 3/4 with it's stupid time travel. It was simple but exciting and engaging invade the TCRI and stop the krang invasion while splinter deals with the foot clan and fases off with shredder with excellent fight choreography and splinter winning in the end on the skin of his teeth and the turtles as well trying to destroy the portal. I will make a review about it in the future as a good critique instead of just praising the show just cause it has alot of stories. (with only less than half of them being good)
@@avalongavastan3707 the space arc was a snoozefeast they were adding too many things that did not make sense to the story season 1 and 2 were great and a little bit of season 3. The show transfering to ninjas in the sewer to going to space made no sense
Wait, wait, wait its over? Holy crap I didn't know I thought it was on hiatus or something, God damn it I loved this show so much, I still do that it pains me to know it already ended
I'm saying it right now, _Mutans Vs. Monsters_ did the monsters better justice than Universal's Dark Universe, especially The Mummy. That's right, Nickelodeon did the monsters better than Universal Studios. On another note, the _Mutant Apocalypse_ story arc had been implied to be set in an alternate timeline by the writers, so the episode's inclusion in the series as canon is highly debatable and may be nothing more than a "What if?" story.
Considering Utroms are now saved, Kraang is defeated, Dimension X is in good tentacles, it’s makes more sense for Mutant Apocalypse to be an alternative brutal ending of season 2
Man, why are you dumping on 2003 Shredder? He was one of the most entertaining villains I've ever seen on animation. Anyone who hates the Turtles SO MUCH, he's willing to destroy the multiverse to get rid of them get my respect for such pettiness.
2003 Shredder was cool and all, but I wouldn't call him the best version of the character. At some point he got WAY too over the top as a megalomaniac cartoon supervillain, similar to Megatron from Beast Wars. Also, one could argue that he was more of an amalgamation of Shredder and Krang then an actual version of the Shredder. So if we're discussing who's the best version of the Shredder in his own right, the 2012 version takes the cake.
He was a good Shredder, but he always felt somewhat flat. :/ And man, you want petty Shredder? TMNT 2012 Shredder is literally the definition of petty. He kidnapped and raised Splinter’s daughter out of spite for what happened to Tang Shen (which was his own fault), and then years later, he chose to kill Splinter even though that ended the world. So yeah. Pretty damn petty.
I honestly love this incarnation. When I saw the trailer for it on Nickelodeon, I was skeptical and thought it to be a "boys show", where it's all nonsensical action, but I decided to give it a shot. I'm forever happy I did. I fell in love with it almost instantly and it brought so much inspiration and light into my life. However, I do have some major complaints. They're mainly regarding the romance between the Turtles and the female cast. At first, I didn't mind Donatello and April doing their playful flirting or just having downright cute moments. But I felt it dragged on a bit and doesn't really develop besides from a few arguments and blind forgiveness here and there. As for Leonardo and Karai, that's where my biggest issues rise. I had sort of higher expectations for Karai; her design was sleek and interesting, as well as her personality. But pairing her with Leo doesn't really work for me. Perhaps it's simply my own love for the leader in blue blinding me, but I felt it was forced then sort of dropped after it had been revealed Karai was Splinter's daughter (plus I feel that makes Leo & Karai at least adoptive siblings which makes their romance sort of.. unusual). I understand that it's young love and complicated, but I felt the romance could've been handled a bit differently. The same goes for certain characters. I LOVED Tiger Claw when he first appeared but I felt his role turned from being a badass assassin, to nothing more than a standard wise-cracking villain. Shinigami is sort of the same way. When I read the brief description of her, my expectations were through the roof at seeing a witch in the TMNT cartoon. I actually thought she'd be an adult, not a teenager, and was slightly disappointed at her final character. There's also certain story arcs that were unfinished/left behind that I wish had some closure. But I definitely would still call this one of my favorite cartoons, if not ever. I'll probably rewatch it on my own time to see it with some more mature eyes and hopefully a fresh mind. Other than that, I love this show to bits and hope Rise of the TMNT will do it justice!
This cartoon was so awesome! The characters are epic, same with the stories. Some changes were strange, but they were worth getting used to. What's my rating for this show? 10/10, just great to watch.
While the season 1 twist was great and brilliant , I thought the season 2 twist was better because it was well hidden and unexpected. The Invasion (season 2 finale ) is one of my favorite pieces of animation of all time
I was never really a fan of TMNT until I saw this show. I loved it. It has flaws sure, but overall great series. Donatello is my favorite turtle from this show. I love his sass. I'll check out the new TMNT when it comes out, but I don't know that it will be as good as this one
Its inspired of the original comic. They have the same thing happen in the 1990 movie expect it was Raph instead of Leo who get thrown through a window
Like you, ERod; I also loved this show. My favorite things about it were the depictions of Shredder, Splinter, Donatello and Mikey; especially Mikey. Having Greg Cipes voice him was perfect casting, in my opinion. As for Donnie, Rob did a superb job doing a spastic techno nerd character through him. He was like Tucker from Danny Phantom. Just...without the sexual attraction towards technology. Also, I think Nick's continuing this show later this year
I love your honest review´s the most and is this your longest one? Great. I have loved this show since it began. I was really worried it whould be to focused on humor, don´t get me wrong I like Teen Titans but it could be way to silly at times. But this show proved me wrong at every corner. They had so much heart and drama my heart barely could provide more water for my eyes. Splinter was the absolutely best thing in this show, favorite Splinter yet our of all versions. The characterization of the turtles are also my favorite, Mickey is so adorable and lovable and cute, I am so happy to have a guy character like that. He did however lean on being WAY to gross when it come to food in later season, I guess it´s logical considering what they were eating before they turned 15. April could be really incconsistent for me with her powers but actually it was used better then typical telekenisis character´s like Jean Grey. Favorite villian is a split on Baxter Stockman and Xaiver. Love there humor and fighting style. It´s funny they ened on Season 5 since you mentioned in a video long ago that it whould be a nice amont for them and not drive this show into the ground so nice prediction there Erod. But I guess no one could guess how they whould make season 5. But considering season 4 how could they make it better? Favorite season was 2. It got a lot of this wonderfully wierd and creepy horror episodes and my favorite finale. The music is great, I hope to get some OST from this show. And when ever things looked 2D animated or comicbook like. Wonderful. The focus on art was great. I will try to watch the new show and we will see if it´s something to look at or if it is for a new set of fans.
Loved this show's version of Raphael. Such great development and layers was given to him. Oh and being the best fighter of the 4 is not only a great bonus but also justifies his cockiness. Usually, Leonardo is my favorite turtle but not here. That goes to Raph
Sorry for being a year late, but I just had to say something. I'm sooo glad to see comments like these. My favourite character/turtle in the universe is '12 Raph, but I always see a lot of comments saying how 1 dimensional he is (always a bully, mean, a jerk, never nice to his brothers, is abusive) when he clearly is not (makes you wonder if they actually watched it more than a few episodes). I'm always happy when I see the odd comment from people who actually understand him. You lifted my spirits today :D
donjwolf my turn to be late lol but I agree so much. I’m pretty sure people that say ‘12 Raph is mean and one dimensional must have watched very few scenes of him. They’ve shown his sensitive side many times and he has great character development throughout while still remaining himself. He’s my favorite turtle also, I thought he was beautifully presented in this version.
11:08 finally someone else gets it. Yes. This is the only series that had them act, sound, and look like teenagers. All other series have them act like adults even though it's called "teenage" mutant ninja turtles
They also recreated a beaten Leo crashing through Aprils window in the 2003 series, as the 2003 took material right from the comics. Honestly 2003 and 2012 are the best versions out there for me, and they are so different yet so equal in my opinion.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2012 is one of my favorite tv shows ever on nickelodeon. At first, I wasn't into the turtles, but when this version showed up on the channel, I started loving it compared to the other versions which I wasn't that interested in. I grew up watching this version since high school when it premiered. They made great stories with memorable characters, challenging villains, funny dialogues, bigger stories through later seasons. Each season went from bigger to bigger to deeper to darker. When I rank this show with all the other nickelodeon shows, it's my number three favorite. My favourite character is Michelangelo which made nunchucks my favorite weapon. Doing martial arts inspired me from this show. I highly recommend who hasn't watched the turtles yet should give the 2012 version a try first.
@@wiibrockster same happened in Turtles Forever: an unpleasing effort to ridicularize 87's turtles. I never watched the 2003 series but this fact makes me not wanting to watch it.
I actually like the final season opening more than the original opening.Personal taste I guess. I don't much care for rap. And I dig the 70s Kung Fu movie groove of the final opening.
Walter Lopez the random line from Raphael saying sewer apples completely ruins the opening for me. The random words from the turtles are completely unnecessary. If they weren't there I'd like the intri
definitely best tmnt reboot i ever seen. i love season 1-2-3-5 ( 4 was okay) rip best splinter tho. i still prefer the 2003 since i grow up with and it`s the main reason how i became a fan of this series ,but this is my second favorite ninja turtle series :) i also love teen titans,emh, super monkey robot team hyper go
At first, I was super skeptical about this show. I grew up on the 2003 show, and like any stereotypical fan boy I was looking at this show with disapproving eyes because it was different. But when I saw the end of season 2, I started watching the show, and it's now my favorite incarnation of the Turtles. I love how the Turtles have more complex personalities, I love how they aren't the same design with a different color mask, I love the story, I love everything about it. All I have to say is "Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" has some big shoes to fill.
You too, huh? I was a Movieverse and 2003 series kid myself, so when I heard stuff like Donatello having a romantic interest in April, April being a teenager, and seeing the designs of the Turtles, I wrote the show off as Nickelodeon killing the franchise. Yeah, I was a pretty stupid kid at the time. It was around the time the 2014 movie came out when I gave the 2012 series a chance. Never have I liked being so wrong in my entire life. The 2012 Turtles are my favorite versions of the Turtles, and I was a hardcore 2003 Turtles kid, at least until Fast Forward.
Hub Pie Yeah, when I heard the theme song I was like, "UGH a rap theme? You're REALLY trying to be hip, aren't you?" Aaaand now I know every word. XD I'm glad I was wrong about the show, too.
S.R. Hunt I think we were all pretty skeptical at first, I admit I was too though I was willing to give it a chance. And man am I glad I did. This is not only is this my favorite version of the TMNT, but one of my favorite cartoon shows in general.
Wow, same here! Growing up with 2003 I was really stingy with this new series. Being CGI and aired by Nick, I thought they would dumb the whole thing down. I've never been so wrong! Thankfully I got over myself by mid season 2 and actually gave it a chance. This is, by far, my favorite adaptation, and it was so great to be apart of the ride.
31:42 Encase you're curious why the Ninjas were scared of Kappas it's because and I'm not making this up, in japanese mythology Kappas steal your soul....By pulling it out of your anus. Mull over that for a bit. Makes those scenes make way more sense.
geardog24 Yeah, but they never did get together so maybe that's why they didn't mention it? I don't know that was always on shaky ground since Splinter's DNA is what gave the turtles their human aspects. I honestly thought Karai had better chemistry with Shinigami anyway. Also speaking of couples while I guess Donnie and April never officially got together I kind of feel like it was implied. Especially with that music video.
Well actually the turtles are mutants so they had blood of the mutagen just Karai has splinter blood so there not really related and Kevin Eastman say they were not brother and sister there just have the same dad
Well it can’t be incest because the turtles aren’t biologically Splinter’s kids, so really they’d be step-siblings (not that it makes it any better though).
Great review, Erod! I've never really watched this show, but I truly get the love for it all. It's certainly an amazing show. I was just more of a Power Rangers fan growing up, so I had more of a connection with that show instead. Quick question for everyone. Did anyone else slightly wish that Erod referenced Andre Meadows and his "SMOOTH DONATELLO" gag from his channel? There's even a possibility that the show used his outro "OUTIE 5000" for a saying for Bebop, as he said it a few times in the show. Keep up the great reviews :)
Jeremy Adler Oh they definitely were referencing Andre. I mean not only did they do the outie 5000 thing, but they did the smooth Donatello thing. I loved Andre's reviews, but for some reason he never finished reviewing the series. I don't know why. I don't really watch Andre's stuff anymore.
Thanks for reminding me about the "Smooth Donatello" thing in the show! I'd completely forgotten that! As for Andre not doing Ninja Turtle stuff these days, I'm not sure why he's stopped for now. Hopefully he'll get back to them somewhere down the line. I'm still watching his videos and they're still great fun. Try to give them another watch if you get the chance sometime.
i am gonna miss this version of the ninja turtles I want to see if the new version is gonna top this version if not I will still watch this version and the 2003 version
Lazy lime 123 if your talking about mutant apocalypse from the TMNT 2012 series none of them were mutated but Leo and that arc isn’t cannon it’s just a what if story
For me it would be 5 Ultimate Spider-Man 4 Batman brave and the bold 3 Avatar the Last Airbender 2 Ben 10 Omniverse 1 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012)
I loved the 2012 TMNT Show! It was great with little throwbacks to The Comics,The 87 show and The 03 Show. I especially loved The Shredder in this show. This show also made me say that I felt bad for Bebop and Rocksteady.
Donny is a human/reptile hybrid due to how his muation was. AND April is alos a mutant, so thus it's not really a problem. Sonic is an actual Hedgehog just turned anthropomorphic in terms of how that series seems to work in terms of coninutiy, and Elise is a 100% human.
Except, the turtles are fully turtle that got mutated by the ooze, taking a humanoid form because they came into contact with humans as they were mutated. April is still more human than anything else, and Splinter, well. Odd that he became as much a rat as the turtles are turtles rather than maintaining a more human than anthropomorphic form, but whatever, right?
So I understand that as two different species, a relationship would be difficult. But given that Donatello is a Ninja, the second deadliest warrior on the planet (#1 being a US Navy Seal) as well as a genius in both mechanics and chemistry, exactly how is Donnie out of April’s league?
Great review of the series! I worked on the show for about 6 years and yeah, the off-color tweets about Mitt Romney's wife were the reason Nickelodeon went with a different voice actor for Leo. Seth was awesome, so I didn't mind it :)
I am a bit disappointed with Season 5 being a bunch of small arcs (while they were ok) that didn't fully resolve all of the story elements and some remain left unfinished.
Karystma: I personally wish they had cut out 1 or 2 of the small arcs and replaced them with 1 off episodes that gave the series some finality. Examples: What happened to April's mother? Did Donny ever find a way to cure the mutants who wanted to go back to normal? What happened to Pigeon Pete? Is Karai stuck as a transforming mutant? What happened to the TMNT that went into space?
I liked the mini-arcs, but I feel like their order was a problem. Even though I liked the Bebop and Rocksteady three-part finale, I would have preferred Kavaxas being the final villain. His arc with zombie Shredder being his servant and Splinter coming back as a ghost to help save the world would have been much better if it was the actual ending.
I love the series, but later seasons were awful (especially the Apocalyptic future finale) & I loathe the "romantic" subplots and the Horror filler episodes. And I hate how they killed off Splinter (twice). After seeing the new design of him...I miss him even more! :'(
I felt like I was more bothered by Splinter's death than any of the characters, except Leo. It was jarring how Splinter was barely ever mentioned again.
I randomly found this series on Hulu and, apparently 9 years after it first aired, decided to watch it for the first time. After having finished the series, all I can say is ... WOW! What a beautiful, sincere and deeply engaging creation! I thoroughly enjoyed your review here -- you've brought so much passion and heart to it, and it's clear how much this version of the Turtles meant to you! Please keep it up, definitely subscribing to your channel! :)
Actually, the "Mutant Apocalypse" episode wasn't INITIALLY intended as an homage to "Mad Max" (though that series was DEFINITELY a major factor). No, the 2012 series was NOTORIOUS for combining aspects of almost EVERY iteration of the TMNT from throughout history. And one VERY obscure addition to this mix was the Palladium tabletop RPG "TMNT And Other Strangeness" . . . and its supplemental material, called "After The Bomb," a post-apocalyptic story about a devastated Earth after a humanity-destroying explosion, where only mutant animals still survive. Sound familiar? :)
(41:17) I've been watching this awesome Usagi Yojimbo episodes each day, and hopping they'll give him his own Animated Series. Also I LOVED "Lone Rat and Four Cubs" and thanks to the episode I have been reading the Manga series of "Lone Wolf and Cub"
It's actually a pretty damn good show to be honest. For years i kinda slept on it. The cgi kinda put me off, also it being made by Nick didn't help. Being in my early 20's at the time, i kinda got the sense it was mostly made for really young children too.
While I agree that this is the best series, I don’t agree that this is the only time Splinter was portrayed as a father. He was in the 2003 series very well, as well as the movies. While this is my favorite Splinter and I agree he’s the best one, I think the "ONLY time he’s portrayed as a dad” is a bit of an exaggeration
Agreed. He's just the strictest dad here, there are consequences for disobedience. There are other times the turtles have called him "Father," I have always wondered why the Master/Sensei title isn't reserved for training time only, they weren't calling him that when they were babies.
Very nicely put together as always Erod. I am very curious on your thoughts on the upcoming Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the changes being made for that particular series.
I’m curious to know your thoughts on Rise of the Teenage Mutant Nina Turtles, since that one has gotten A LOT of mixed reactions. For me personally, I can see where they’re going with it, and there are elements that I like in it, but for the most part, it just pales in comparison to this version.
satireknight well that’s fine. It still should have been the finale. It doesn’t have to be the canon ending for the show or for you. But it can still be the ending to the show and left for fans to either be the ending or just a different universe. Again Logan apparently doesn’t take place in the x men universe as was stated by the director. Some fans still consider it the ending while some don’t.
production wise, it is the finale, but nick stated that the order doesn’t really matter. also, it’s an alternate universe as stated by one of the people who worked on the arc, so i mean to each their own but you can’t really end a series off on an alternate universe because it’ll make people believe that was how it canonically ended.
It could have worked as a finale if it was framed as Renet watching a 'what if' scenerio in concern, as if getting a warning from her mentor on why it's important that the turtles remain. ;;
Nothing wrong with that. Personally, I find 2012 series being the best out of them all, but 2003 series is the one I grew up with more as teenager, so i have more fondness towards it. The original series, I saw episodes as child but honestly, looking back, I'm not as fond of it as other fans.
if your curious the thing that puts 2003 ahead for me is the story arcs in 2012 could feel verry cluttered at times look at the leonardo gets beat up thing in 2003 it had its own episode in 2012 it had to share time with a alien invasion and also the 2012 could shill toys a bit to hard at times several times things where clearly only put in to sell a toy then forgoten i dont mind merchandise driven things but i just want shows to justify things better
'Member Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? ooh! I 'member!!! 'member Fred Wolf? ooh! Ohh! I 'member!!! 'member 1987? oooh! I 'member! 'Member Shredder and Krang? Oooh! I love 'membering Shredder and Krang? 'Member Rock Steady and Bebop? Oooh! I love 'membering Rock Steady and Bebop? 'member when Peter Laird didn't have creative control of the Ninja Turtles? Oooh! I 'member! 'Member when you had no idea that the Mirage comics existed? oooh! I 'member! 'Member when the 2003 cartoon didn't happened yet? oooh! I 'member!!! 'Member when you felt safe? oooh! I 'member!! 'member when marriage was between a man and a woman? ....
I saw some guy did the same thing on 1987/2012 crossover post on Facebook and one guy got triggered wanted to rip his 'member' off of him because he hates it when the Nick series is compared to member berries from South Park
"...Or moved in an awkward fashion" (*shows the one moment in the show that was intentionally animated awkwardly for comedic effect*) Sorry, I had to, besides that, great review
I'm suprised you didn't mention that Turtles's origin story is a bit diffrent in this show. I'm not TMNT fan but in most of the versions, I think, their origin was classic Daredevil's from other POV.
I did find it curious they didn't keep Dominic as Leo. I could notice some difference between him and Biggs, but he was still so similar, I would've kept him on (no offence to Seth Green).
The best adaptation of the turtles tend to be the ones that combine the mature tone of the mirage comics and the comedic tone of the 80s show, and this is definitely one that captures that well, as well as the 1990 film and the 2003 show.
I much preferred the Agent Bishop from the 2003 TMNT series. A soldier who fought in the war of 1812 was abducted and experimented on by aliens and has spent most of his life as a xenophobic alien-hunting government boogeyman who tries to dissect the Turtles and Splinter in order to create a new race of humans who can stand against any and all alien threats. I especially liked how they made Bishop's creepy cyborg clone of himself that universe's version of the Rat King in the episode "I, Monster".
hmm I skipped quite a few episodes from the final season. I may have to go back and watch them! Also glad to know that the show does have a satisfying finale (even if it technically isn't the "real" one) I agree that this is the best TMNT adaptation so far. My only criticisms were some of the loose threads that were never resolved, like the mutants who never got cured and turned back into humans like they wanted.
He had stepped on a rat's tail and that somehow makes him a rat instead of a turtle. Anyway it would be very weird to have mutant turtles training under a turtle Splinter.
My only issue about Splinter death is that they overplayed him diying so many darn times that, when he actually did kick the bucket, I was more like "I guess this time is final".
Edit: I'll make myself more clear: I am not saying that Splinter died many times, but they sure liked to make us think he WOULD die more than once, make it SEEM he did died.
I don't recall there being 'that many times'.. we knew he wasn't dead at the end of Season 2, just badly injured. and Season 3's death was shocking but they were racing to undo that. It felt heavy when it happened with Super Shredder killing Splinter because, idk, it just FELT final...like...shit..that really did just happen. no redo. its real.
Lmaoo I know I got tired of that. They tried one upping it
When I saw his death I didn’t remember the other deaths so this was like the first time for me
He died a solid 2 times most of the time when he alleared dead it was pretty obvious he wouldnt die
what about the final family reunion in carmaggedon?
This has got to be one of my favorite animated shows of all time alongside Batman the animated series and the spectacular spiderman.
The turtles are fifth teen they're not 13 it's a it's a turtle's are 13 then that means they would not B15 in the in April was born in 2001 and the turtles
Born in 2002 they would not born in 2004 or 2003 they would be 13 or 14 they are 15
LEROOOOOOY
@@onix2723what was the point of saying that that not what he was taiking about that
Same
Spectacular spider man is so underrated tho
You failed to mention how much of a badass this Splinter is when it comes to fighting. Every time he has to go out on the field he effortlessly beats everyone's ass to the point where the Turtles' enemies start running, honestly his fights were some of the best in the show
@Mason Beedie He was facing Super Shredder. You forget that Splinter survived a 1000 ft fall and still came back to fight.
Mason Beedie he was fighting his brother shredder there equals in fighting
I think they were referring to the fights where splinter used legit only 2 fingers and sent enemies flying into stone walls
Or when rock steady and bee bop entered the sewers then legit got slaughtered by splinter
@@corexraid4432 don't you mean Adoptive Brother
th-cam.com/video/SvMCLuRIYhw/w-d-xo.html shredder great quotes
I love the fact that people actually watch tus show. I AM NOT ALONE!!!!!!
*_I know..._* right...?! :D
Same I used to think this fandom was so small
Nyla Briscoe not me when I was a kid I thought 2012 was the only tmnt plus the 1987 and 2003 was a comic book
Nope your not
I watched it in my teens and even now, I still watch it sometimes. It's nice
Also, I really liked Donatello's portrayal as I feel like Donny is the most underappreciated of the heroes in a half shell.
imdb88 Agreed. Donatello is my favourite Turtle
This is definitely his most interesting iteration.
I didn't really care for Donatello.....
Then I watched THIS series :)
@Adrian
OMG!!! That was awsome! It was the best Donnie episode for that series! (note, I'm still on season one XD)
but sadly THEY DID ABUSULETLY NOTHING WITH IT. WHAT THE SHELL!?
@Adrian
"Same As It Never Was" is the episode you're talking about. It was such a sad episode.
This show captured all tones TMNT has ever been and merged them together incredibly well.
th-cam.com/video/SvMCLuRIYhw/w-d-xo.html shredder great quotes
I wasn't a fan of how many fake-out deaths they did with Splinter, but that's maybe just me, he was my favourite Splinter and I just wanted the poor guy to get a break XD
TheCoolperson1996 well don't worry it wasn't a fake out in then ;)
sorry that was kind of be mean
The only "fake out" death was Season 3 since Season 4 was them racing to undo it. The end of Season 2 was just a really great, heavy ending. You knew he wasn't dead. It was more of a "how are they going to come back from this" situation rather than "holy shit Splinter was just killed"
There is one thing you forgot to mention when talking about splinter. Dont get me wrong I agree with you in every regard, but when it comes to fighting he did not just fight like a Ninja Master, he also faught like a Rat, running on all Fours, using Claws, Teeth and Tail. The only thing coming close to that was 80s Splinter Biting that one Board in the Intro song but that was it.
th-cam.com/video/SvMCLuRIYhw/w-d-xo.html shredder great quotes
Yeah that was bad. We never see him fight like a true master.
@@sadwhitesoxfan17 we got a glimpse when he stopped Leatherhead that one time
Freakin love the chorus of the 2012 theme song, sounds like an emergency siren calling the turtles into action.
But yeah, this whole series was basically a love letter to everything Turtles, and it was glorius.
Except for the 2003 show
th-cam.com/video/SvMCLuRIYhw/w-d-xo.html shredder great quotes
It was the brand saying they know the difference between doing the job right and doing it wrong because they proved how to fail with Rise of the WTF (cuz there ain't any way Rose is TMNT).
I loved the expansion on Raph's character from this one! It kind of started in the 2003 (which I love equally to 2012 btw) as in this one they made him a big sweetheart inside. In 2003, he was also sweet at times, and very overprotective of his family, but the intensity of this does not compare to 2012. Raph is very empathic, and he is very emotionally connected to himself, and can therefore understand the emotions of others. He was the one to tell April to think of Donnie when she was under the Aeons spell and about to kill him, and he was the one who told Tang Shen to follow her heart when she had to choose between Yoshi and Saki. This is also why he has such a deep connection to his pets and his love interest, (also why he gets the furthest into a relationship with his love interest out of all the turtles). This show directed his tough anger toward others for hurting his family. He is so dedicated and emotionally connected to them in the theme of family that he willing to give up his life for any of them. This made his character so multi-dimentional, and this is what made his such a fantastic character in my opinion.
Thank you! Even though I am very late with my reply, I am pleased that other people see his true nature too. The accusations people often throw at him are never true (eg 'he is always angry, weak, a pussy, never emotional, never a hero), and he has so much depth! He is my favourite character ever. I'm glad there are other fans of him out there.
@@donjwolf Yes and yes
As someone who can empathize easily with Raphael, I can say that his mature variant in the Mad Max style episode was his most emotionally advanced completion as he was taking a strong leading role due to his years of emotional learning experiences and self-control to the point where he genuinely only cared and didn't lash out like a prick, just genuinely cared.
The show's crew have clarified that Mutant Apocalypse is an Elseworld story/Non-Canon, probably due to the negative fan reaction.
I thought it was.
I would have been more okay with a sad ending had they actually spent more time in the emotional impact of it instead of mad max chase scenes. Imagine seeing the last fight the turtles and humans failed. Seeing Casey and April die probably would have made me cry.
I prefer that. I kinda thought when first watching it, that it would pan out and reveal it was just a story Raph was writing. They did that sort of thing before in the comics.
I didn't like season 3 in the woods. I wasn't a big fan of the space episodes. And tales were hit or miss. I always felt the shredder and splinter arcs were the best parts
Matt Wolff I agree but the space arc woods arc were pretty good imo but season 5 is my least favorite season
what annoys me is people who hate or refuse to try this based on it being CGI, April being a teen or it being made by Nick.
BTW did you ever do an honest review of Gargoyles ?
I thought he did, but apparently not. I'd also love to see a Legends of Fandom segment on the Gargoyles spin off ideas.
That last one seems so odd considering Nickelodeon is the same channel that gave us shows such as Avatar: The Last Airbender
Great points. Having April and Casey be teenagers was a smart and logical move. It didn't detract from the storyline at all, if not making it better. After all, the Turtles are teenagers. I was impressed by this version. Im thinking about a petition to Nickelodeon to bring this back.
Honestly I like April and Casey more as teens. Because the turtles are teens.
sasamichan Judging it solely based on that is very closed minded. I’ve watched it through the entire way so while I do like it just fine, I think I still prefer the 2k3 series. Don’t get me wrong this is fine, but I really didn’t like a few of the elements in it, namely all the story backtracking all the time (Karai must be away from the turtles), the mutants on Shredder’s team having frozen character development (what did Bradford and Xever do after getting mutated), the lack of varied locations for most of the series (space not withstanding, and yes I know this was a limitation of CGI but it’s still a bit boring to see the same set pieces used over and over again, 2k3 really didn’t have this limitation due to being hand drawn) or really how by the end of the series they feel like they’re exactly where they started, just that Splinter isn’t there.
And the less said about whatever that Mad Max thing they were doing, the better.
I really glad that this person in the cartoon community talking about other cartoons like this other than shitting on teen titans go and overpraising steven universe
Teen titans Go is pretty okay to me.
@@damienlc8895 Same lol, it's best enjoyed for what it is
@@damienlc8895 First season was the best, so was the night begins to shine special
THIS IS THE MOST AWESOME REVIEW OF THIS SHOW I'VE EVER SEEN!!! But, the final season was aired almost completely out of order and you went mostly by airdate than the true order they were supposed to be in. Still, this was TRULY AMAZING!!! XD
Except it kinda did. Renet appeared for a bit at the beginning of When Worlds Collide, for example.
This was without a doubt the best version of tmnt
I prefer 2003
Yeah cus I watched this when I was in 4th grade and I’m in 9th now and still love iy
Eh. Can't beat the Mirage Turtles imo.
so true, i think of this verson when ever i think of tmnt!
Ronnie 2k I started in 5th and am in my 9th year now
My favorite season is season 2 because the story arcs intertwine incredibly well with the finale; Slash, The Rat King, Irma, the Mutations, Casey Jones, Tiger Claw, Karai, this was the best season
facts after season 4 it died
@@anteupmatrix1154 Same I didn't like the later episodes of season 3 and season 4 was jumping the shark by a huge marine when a show tries to take place in space it usually dies out. Like when they try to drastically change genres like why? Most of the space adventures were boring and felt like filler the fact that villains we loved like shredder and his minions were not present at all really hurt it for me and if they were going to kill the krang at least replace them with something just as substantial. My favorite season would be season 1 since like in the 1984 TMNT the first season was very good and could have been the end of the show with how good everything was built up. First season 1 was simple no ridiculous massive arcs with a lot of characters to keep track of and remember. Second the characters got fleshed out alot in episodes like when Ralph kept losing his temper with Leo in training and in battle and they learned to work together near the end and become more closer. With my favorite episode being how the undermine Mikey and Donny as the lesser fighters but at the end of the day they learn that everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses. Third the finale was great it wasn't so incomprehensive where it was hard to follow unlike season 3/4 with it's stupid time travel. It was simple but exciting and engaging invade the TCRI and stop the krang invasion while splinter deals with the foot clan and fases off with shredder with excellent fight choreography and splinter winning in the end on the skin of his teeth and the turtles as well trying to destroy the portal. I will make a review about it in the future as a good critique instead of just praising the show just cause it has alot of stories. (with only less than half of them being good)
@@avalongavastan3707 the space arc was a snoozefeast they were adding too many things that did not make sense to the story season 1 and 2 were great and a little bit of season 3. The show transfering to ninjas in the sewer to going to space made no sense
Wait, wait, wait its over? Holy crap I didn't know I thought it was on hiatus or something, God damn it I loved this show so much, I still do that it pains me to know it already ended
I'm saying it right now, _Mutans Vs. Monsters_ did the monsters better justice than Universal's Dark Universe, especially The Mummy. That's right, Nickelodeon did the monsters better than Universal Studios.
On another note, the _Mutant Apocalypse_ story arc had been implied to be set in an alternate timeline by the writers, so the episode's inclusion in the series as canon is highly debatable and may be nothing more than a "What if?" story.
Thanks bro I was crying a lot because of the mutant apocalypse
Considering Utroms are now saved, Kraang is defeated, Dimension X is in good tentacles, it’s makes more sense for Mutant Apocalypse to be an alternative brutal ending of season 2
Man, why are you dumping on 2003 Shredder? He was one of the most entertaining villains I've ever seen on animation. Anyone who hates the Turtles SO MUCH, he's willing to destroy the multiverse to get rid of them get my respect for such pettiness.
2003 Shredder was cool and all, but I wouldn't call him the best version of the character. At some point he got WAY too over the top as a megalomaniac cartoon supervillain, similar to Megatron from Beast Wars. Also, one could argue that he was more of an amalgamation of Shredder and Krang then an actual version of the Shredder. So if we're discussing who's the best version of the Shredder in his own right, the 2012 version takes the cake.
erubin100 TBB saying he's bad because he's Kraang is a bit contrived
Should have mentioned the video
mechashadow Did I say he was bad? No, I said he WASN'T THE BEST SHREDDER. That is not the same as saying he's a bad character.
mechashadow you mentioned my name, so I thought you were referring to my comment specifically.
He was a good Shredder, but he always felt somewhat flat. :/
And man, you want petty Shredder? TMNT 2012 Shredder is literally the definition of petty. He kidnapped and raised Splinter’s daughter out of spite for what happened to Tang Shen (which was his own fault), and then years later, he chose to kill Splinter even though that ended the world. So yeah. Pretty damn petty.
I honestly love this incarnation. When I saw the trailer for it on Nickelodeon, I was skeptical and thought it to be a "boys show", where it's all nonsensical action, but I decided to give it a shot. I'm forever happy I did. I fell in love with it almost instantly and it brought so much inspiration and light into my life. However, I do have some major complaints. They're mainly regarding the romance between the Turtles and the female cast.
At first, I didn't mind Donatello and April doing their playful flirting or just having downright cute moments. But I felt it dragged on a bit and doesn't really develop besides from a few arguments and blind forgiveness here and there. As for Leonardo and Karai, that's where my biggest issues rise. I had sort of higher expectations for Karai; her design was sleek and interesting, as well as her personality. But pairing her with Leo doesn't really work for me. Perhaps it's simply my own love for the leader in blue blinding me, but I felt it was forced then sort of dropped after it had been revealed Karai was Splinter's daughter (plus I feel that makes Leo & Karai at least adoptive siblings which makes their romance sort of.. unusual).
I understand that it's young love and complicated, but I felt the romance could've been handled a bit differently. The same goes for certain characters.
I LOVED Tiger Claw when he first appeared but I felt his role turned from being a badass assassin, to nothing more than a standard wise-cracking villain. Shinigami is sort of the same way. When I read the brief description of her, my expectations were through the roof at seeing a witch in the TMNT cartoon. I actually thought she'd be an adult, not a teenager, and was slightly disappointed at her final character.
There's also certain story arcs that were unfinished/left behind that I wish had some closure. But I definitely would still call this one of my favorite cartoons, if not ever. I'll probably rewatch it on my own time to see it with some more mature eyes and hopefully a fresh mind. Other than that, I love this show to bits and hope Rise of the TMNT will do it justice!
This cartoon was so awesome! The characters are epic, same with the stories. Some changes were strange, but they were worth getting used to. What's my rating for this show? 10/10, just great to watch.
While the season 1 twist was great and brilliant , I thought the season 2 twist was better because it was well hidden and unexpected. The Invasion (season 2 finale ) is one of my favorite pieces of animation of all time
I was never really a fan of TMNT until I saw this show. I loved it. It has flaws sure, but overall great series. Donatello is my favorite turtle from this show. I love his sass. I'll check out the new TMNT when it comes out, but I don't know that it will be as good as this one
*Not even CLOSE* unfortunately... 2012 is #1 so far.
faxx donnies sass Leo:Why didnt you tell me?? Donatello: Because I wanted us to fail. OBVIOUSLY I DIDNT KNOW
Leonardo's recovery from the Season 2 finale is also something that happened in the 2003 series.
Because its Northampton-arc from original comics.
Its inspired of the original comic. They have the same thing happen in the 1990 movie expect it was Raph instead of Leo who get thrown through a window
Like you, ERod; I also loved this show. My favorite things about it were the depictions of Shredder, Splinter, Donatello and Mikey; especially Mikey.
Having Greg Cipes voice him was perfect casting, in my opinion. As for Donnie, Rob did a superb job doing a spastic techno nerd character through him. He was like Tucker from Danny Phantom.
Just...without the sexual attraction towards technology.
Also, I think Nick's continuing this show later this year
yeah, Donnies saving that love for April
Man this show is awesome sad to see it end
Baby turtles are so cute!
I love your honest review´s the most and is this your longest one? Great. I have loved this show since it began. I was really worried it whould be to focused on humor, don´t get me wrong I like Teen Titans but it could be way to silly at times. But this show proved me wrong at every corner. They had so much heart and drama my heart barely could provide more water for my eyes. Splinter was the absolutely best thing in this show, favorite Splinter yet our of all versions. The characterization of the turtles are also my favorite, Mickey is so adorable and lovable and cute, I am so happy to have a guy character like that. He did however lean on being WAY to gross when it come to food in later season, I guess it´s logical considering what they were eating before they turned 15. April could be really incconsistent for me with her powers but actually it was used better then typical telekenisis character´s like Jean Grey. Favorite villian is a split on Baxter Stockman and Xaiver. Love there humor and fighting style. It´s funny they ened on Season 5 since you mentioned in a video long ago that it whould be a nice amont for them and not drive this show into the ground so nice prediction there Erod. But I guess no one could guess how they whould make season 5. But considering season 4 how could they make it better? Favorite season was 2. It got a lot of this wonderfully wierd and creepy horror episodes and my favorite finale. The music is great, I hope to get some OST from this show. And when ever things looked 2D animated or comicbook like. Wonderful. The focus on art was great. I will try to watch the new show and we will see if it´s something to look at or if it is for a new set of fans.
Loved this show's version of Raphael. Such great development and layers was given to him. Oh and being the best fighter of the 4 is not only a great bonus but also justifies his cockiness. Usually, Leonardo is my favorite turtle but not here. That goes to Raph
Sorry for being a year late, but I just had to say something. I'm sooo glad to see comments like these. My favourite character/turtle in the universe is '12 Raph, but I always see a lot of comments saying how 1 dimensional he is (always a bully, mean, a jerk, never nice to his brothers, is abusive) when he clearly is not (makes you wonder if they actually watched it more than a few episodes). I'm always happy when I see the odd comment from people who actually understand him. You lifted my spirits today :D
donjwolf my turn to be late lol but I agree so much. I’m pretty sure people that say ‘12 Raph is mean and one dimensional must have watched very few scenes of him. They’ve shown his sensitive side many times and he has great character development throughout while still remaining himself. He’s my favorite turtle also, I thought he was beautifully presented in this version.
Watching this made me miss the 2012 series even more 😭
11:08 finally someone else gets it. Yes. This is the only series that had them act, sound, and look like teenagers. All other series have them act like adults even though it's called "teenage" mutant ninja turtles
Rise was the second to do this
@@ttjtheoriginal3468 period! In comparison, Rise wins by a long shot. They have the most teenager Ninja Turtles ever. More than 2012.
This is certainly THE BEST TMNT show ever!
Arkus 2003 series is 0000000000000000.1% better
They also recreated a beaten Leo crashing through Aprils window in the 2003 series, as the 2003 took material right from the comics. Honestly 2003 and 2012 are the best versions out there for me, and they are so different yet so equal in my opinion.
YES AGREED
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2012 is one of my favorite tv shows ever on nickelodeon. At first, I wasn't into the turtles, but when this version showed up on the channel, I started loving it compared to the other versions which I wasn't that interested in. I grew up watching this version since high school when it premiered. They made great stories with memorable characters, challenging villains, funny dialogues, bigger stories through later seasons. Each season went from bigger to bigger to deeper to darker. When I rank this show with all the other nickelodeon shows, it's my number three favorite. My favourite character is Michelangelo which made nunchucks my favorite weapon. Doing martial arts inspired me from this show. I highly recommend who hasn't watched the turtles yet should give the 2012 version a try first.
Usagi's Guest Appearance was well done! I love Usagi and The TMNT. It was much better than how they treated Usagi in the 87 show.
Tarlo The Boar what about the 2003 crossover witch was great too?
The crossovers in the Battle Nexus and Ultimate Draco arcs in the TMNT (2003) show were pretty good.
fistpump64 I didn't like it beacuse it treated the classic turtles like they were complete morons
Rush Maverick They were great!
@@wiibrockster same happened in Turtles Forever: an unpleasing effort to ridicularize 87's turtles. I never watched the 2003 series but this fact makes me not wanting to watch it.
Michaelangelo used to be my fav turtle from the 1987 show, but the 2012 show really made Donatello my new fav!
Mickey: Hey guys, ever realized that the cartoons we watch are kind of like our missions? So funny!
Finally, the recognition this show deserves, we all thought this show had a small fandom, But we are Not Alone!
I actually like the final season opening more than the original opening.Personal taste I guess. I don't much care for rap. And I dig the 70s Kung Fu movie groove of the final opening.
Walter Lopez the random line from Raphael saying sewer apples completely ruins the opening for me. The random words from the turtles are completely unnecessary. If they weren't there I'd like the intri
I agree, but I got more of a "Cowboy Bebop" kind of vibe.
definitely best tmnt reboot i ever seen. i love season 1-2-3-5 ( 4 was okay) rip best splinter tho. i still prefer the 2003 since i grow up with and it`s the main reason how i became a fan of this series ,but this is my second favorite ninja turtle series :) i also love teen titans,emh, super monkey robot team hyper go
guts on the mic it's not technically a reboot because it's it's own universe turtle-verse
At first, I was super skeptical about this show. I grew up on the 2003 show, and like any stereotypical fan boy I was looking at this show with disapproving eyes because it was different. But when I saw the end of season 2, I started watching the show, and it's now my favorite incarnation of the Turtles. I love how the Turtles have more complex personalities, I love how they aren't the same design with a different color mask, I love the story, I love everything about it. All I have to say is "Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" has some big shoes to fill.
You too, huh? I was a Movieverse and 2003 series kid myself, so when I heard stuff like Donatello having a romantic interest in April, April being a teenager, and seeing the designs of the Turtles, I wrote the show off as Nickelodeon killing the franchise. Yeah, I was a pretty stupid kid at the time. It was around the time the 2014 movie came out when I gave the 2012 series a chance. Never have I liked being so wrong in my entire life. The 2012 Turtles are my favorite versions of the Turtles, and I was a hardcore 2003 Turtles kid, at least until Fast Forward.
Hub Pie Yeah, when I heard the theme song I was like, "UGH a rap theme? You're REALLY trying to be hip, aren't you?" Aaaand now I know every word. XD I'm glad I was wrong about the show, too.
S.R. Hunt I think we were all pretty skeptical at first, I admit I was too though I was willing to give it a chance. And man am I glad I did. This is not only is this my favorite version of the TMNT, but one of my favorite cartoon shows in general.
Wow, same here! Growing up with 2003 I was really stingy with this new series. Being CGI and aired by Nick, I thought they would dumb the whole thing down. I've never been so wrong! Thankfully I got over myself by mid season 2 and actually gave it a chance. This is, by far, my favorite adaptation, and it was so great to be apart of the ride.
S.R. Hunt. Same
31:42 Encase you're curious why the Ninjas were scared of Kappas it's because and I'm not making this up, in japanese mythology Kappas steal your soul....By pulling it out of your anus.
Mull over that for a bit. Makes those scenes make way more sense.
They even reference it in the show... it's like Japanese Mythology was made for Nickelodeon's crude sense of gross out humor.
FNGLHR makes you wonder why it took them this long to make a series like this
I'm surprised you didn't talk about Leonardo and Karai being a couple...even though they're technically brother and sister.
geardog24 Yeah, but they never did get together so maybe that's why they didn't mention it? I don't know that was always on shaky ground since Splinter's DNA is what gave the turtles their human aspects. I honestly thought Karai had better chemistry with Shinigami anyway. Also speaking of couples while I guess Donnie and April never officially got together I kind of feel like it was implied. Especially with that music video.
Well actually the turtles are mutants so they had blood of the mutagen just Karai has splinter blood so there not really related and Kevin Eastman say they were not brother and sister there just have the same dad
It is incest
@@theredeft5319 It was also implied that Leo and Karai got together, in season 5 by the episodes of When Worlds Collide and The Foot walks again
Well it can’t be incest because the turtles aren’t biologically Splinter’s kids, so really they’d be step-siblings (not that it makes it any better though).
Great review, Erod!
I've never really watched this show, but I truly get the love for it all. It's certainly an amazing show. I was just more of a Power Rangers fan growing up, so I had more of a connection with that show instead.
Quick question for everyone. Did anyone else slightly wish that Erod referenced Andre Meadows and his "SMOOTH DONATELLO" gag from his channel? There's even a possibility that the show used his outro "OUTIE 5000" for a saying for Bebop, as he said it a few times in the show.
Keep up the great reviews :)
Jeremy Adler Oh they definitely were referencing Andre. I mean not only did they do the outie 5000 thing, but they did the smooth Donatello thing. I loved Andre's reviews, but for some reason he never finished reviewing the series. I don't know why. I don't really watch Andre's stuff anymore.
Thanks for reminding me about the "Smooth Donatello" thing in the show! I'd completely forgotten that!
As for Andre not doing Ninja Turtle stuff these days, I'm not sure why he's stopped for now. Hopefully he'll get back to them somewhere down the line. I'm still watching his videos and they're still great fun. Try to give them another watch if you get the chance sometime.
i am gonna miss this version of the ninja turtles I want to see if the new version is gonna top this version if not I will still watch this version and the 2003 version
I feel like it was ruined when they were mutated again
Lazy lime 123 if your talking about mutant apocalypse from the TMNT 2012 series none of them were mutated but Leo and that arc isn’t cannon it’s just a what if story
@@corexraid4432 wait is tales not canon?
I have 5 shows that I hold in high regard: 5. Avatar the Last Airbender 4. Teen Titans 3. Wander Over Yonder 2. Gravity Falls 1. TMNT(2012)
All except Teen Titans, thats trash
@@HappyBob123 Not Go.
Jesus not Go.
For me it would be 5 Ultimate Spider-Man 4 Batman brave and the bold 3 Avatar the Last Airbender 2 Ben 10 Omniverse 1 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012)
I loved the 2012 TMNT Show! It was great with little throwbacks to The Comics,The 87 show and The 03 Show. I especially loved The Shredder in this show. This show also made me say that I felt bad for Bebop and Rocksteady.
By far my favorite Turtles show. Hilarious, action packed, and great characterization of the turtles
I love this show.
I love show, sad to see it go. Can't wait for rise
Rise looks very ugly,voices are trash,Ralph is THE FUCKING WORST!
Rise is actually not that bad imo I like the art style and animation.
Aside from the animation and in the intro rise completely sucks
Rise is ass
I actually watched a few episodes of Rise. And surprisingly, its actually pretty good and funny!
I once told my heroclix group how much better than the eighties show this was ... I'm not allowed to go back there anymore.
Some people fear new things and cant get out of their shells 🙄
So we like Donnie/April, but when it's a hedgehog and a human everyone freaks out lol. Totally just joking around, but...
Brennan Hearn probably because Elise is a horrible character
Okay? That's kinda irrelevant and not why people freaked out about it.
Donny is a human/reptile hybrid due to how his muation was. AND April is alos a mutant, so thus it's not really a problem.
Sonic is an actual Hedgehog just turned anthropomorphic in terms of how that series seems to work in terms of coninutiy, and Elise is a 100% human.
Except, the turtles are fully turtle that got mutated by the ooze, taking a humanoid form because they came into contact with humans as they were mutated. April is still more human than anything else, and Splinter, well. Odd that he became as much a rat as the turtles are turtles rather than maintaining a more human than anthropomorphic form, but whatever, right?
I choose to look at Mutant Apocalypse as an dark future AU in the vain of things like Dark Knight returns etc.
So I understand that as two different species, a relationship would be difficult. But given that Donatello is a Ninja, the second deadliest warrior on the planet (#1 being a US Navy Seal) as well as a genius in both mechanics and chemistry, exactly how is Donnie out of April’s league?
Great review of the series! I worked on the show for about 6 years and yeah, the off-color tweets about Mitt Romney's wife were the reason Nickelodeon went with a different voice actor for Leo. Seth was awesome, so I didn't mind it :)
Were you a character modeler? Did you model any cool mutants?
Actually, it was because Jason left to work on Orange is the New Black
It’s a shame they never crossover with the 2003 version
I would have loved to see it happen, since 2003 and 2012 are my favorite version's of the ninja turtles.
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The '03 Turtles did it first. I think? That was a long time ago.
Technically the 80s show did it as well
Omg I love this version of Leo. Leo is my fav turtle.
2:39 Um actually I think that the last thing the turtles touched was the pet store owner... Cause you know, Yoshi had them in a glass bowl.
Still in contact with A human
I am a bit disappointed with Season 5 being a bunch of small arcs (while they were ok) that didn't fully resolve all of the story elements and some remain left unfinished.
Karystma: I personally wish they had cut out 1 or 2 of the small arcs and replaced them with 1 off episodes that gave the series some finality. Examples: What happened to April's mother? Did Donny ever find a way to cure the mutants who wanted to go back to normal? What happened to Pigeon Pete? Is Karai stuck as a transforming mutant? What happened to the TMNT that went into space?
I wanted more Shini. Her character wasn't explored enough.
I was hoping for a Biker Mice crossover even though it was unlikely to happen.
i think thats why I don't like that the 2012 season has ended and why I with several other dislike the new design reveal.
I liked the mini-arcs, but I feel like their order was a problem. Even though I liked the Bebop and Rocksteady three-part finale, I would have preferred Kavaxas being the final villain. His arc with zombie Shredder being his servant and Splinter coming back as a ghost to help save the world would have been much better if it was the actual ending.
I love the series, but later seasons were awful (especially the Apocalyptic future finale) & I loathe the "romantic" subplots and the Horror filler episodes.
And I hate how they killed off Splinter (twice).
After seeing the new design of him...I miss him even more! :'(
Keshia Anders I get some of that but having spliter and shredder die by the fits and is great the series is over this universe of turtles turely over
I felt like I was more bothered by Splinter's death than any of the characters, except Leo. It was jarring how Splinter was barely ever mentioned again.
Hope you do a 2003 turtles review in the near future.
I'm so glad you reviewed this series!
I still think the 2003 series is better well except season 6
I liked that season
I personally find the last season of 2003 show to be weakest (not that it was completely bad tho)
Didn't care for that season either
I randomly found this series on Hulu and, apparently 9 years after it first aired, decided to watch it for the first time. After having finished the series, all I can say is ... WOW! What a beautiful, sincere and deeply engaging creation! I thoroughly enjoyed your review here -- you've brought so much passion and heart to it, and it's clear how much this version of the Turtles meant to you! Please keep it up, definitely subscribing to your channel! :)
23:55 I would like to point out that Drake and Josh the PEOPLE are funny. The SHOW on the other hand is shit (well, the later seasons anyway)
Actually, the "Mutant Apocalypse" episode wasn't INITIALLY intended as an homage to "Mad Max" (though that series was DEFINITELY a major factor).
No, the 2012 series was NOTORIOUS for combining aspects of almost EVERY iteration of the TMNT from throughout history. And one VERY obscure addition to this mix was the Palladium tabletop RPG "TMNT And Other Strangeness" . . . and its supplemental material, called "After The Bomb," a post-apocalyptic story about a devastated Earth after a humanity-destroying explosion, where only mutant animals still survive.
Sound familiar? :)
(41:17) I've been watching this awesome Usagi Yojimbo episodes each day, and hopping they'll give him his own Animated Series.
Also I LOVED "Lone Rat and Four Cubs" and thanks to the episode I have been reading the Manga series of "Lone Wolf and Cub"
It's actually a pretty damn good show to be honest. For years i kinda slept on it. The cgi kinda put me off, also it being made by Nick didn't help. Being in my early 20's at the time, i kinda got the sense it was mostly made for really young children too.
the theme song for season 5 is great, not crappy.
While I agree that this is the best series, I don’t agree that this is the only time Splinter was portrayed as a father. He was in the 2003 series very well, as well as the movies. While this is my favorite Splinter and I agree he’s the best one, I think the "ONLY time he’s portrayed as a dad” is a bit of an exaggeration
Wandering Huntress get used to that on this channel
Agreed. He's just the strictest dad here, there are consequences for disobedience. There are other times the turtles have called him "Father," I have always wondered why the Master/Sensei title isn't reserved for training time only, they weren't calling him that when they were babies.
great review i wold love to see your verdict of the 2003 series
One of my favourite cartoons of all time. Underrated as shell
Do a movie review of Batman the animated series
Don Coleman Been there & done that. It's on DailyMotion.
Andrei Iosif no Don Coleman movies 1125 my channel is rare unfortunately
Andrei Iosif yes
Very nicely put together as always Erod. I am very curious on your thoughts on the upcoming Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the changes being made for that particular series.
Congrats on 7K E-Rod :)
This is my favorite version of the TMNT. I love this show. I own the first 2 seasons. I need the other 3 seasons. Need!!! #TurtlePower
I like the TMNT 2012 series, seems like a bit underrated show, but sometimes the fanbase.... (only a portion)
I want to know what happens to the set of turtles that leave with fuegitoid.
Can u review the 2003 version
Karen McCullough he did in his Tmnt tribute
Anthony Barratt
a proper review
I’m curious to know your thoughts on Rise of the Teenage Mutant Nina Turtles, since that one has gotten A LOT of mixed reactions. For me personally, I can see where they’re going with it, and there are elements that I like in it, but for the most part, it just pales in comparison to this version.
Apocalypse should have been the finale. Things don’t always end happy. Look at Logan.
satireknight well that’s fine. It still should have been the finale. It doesn’t have to be the canon ending for the show or for you. But it can still be the ending to the show and left for fans to either be the ending or just a different universe. Again Logan apparently doesn’t take place in the x men universe as was stated by the director. Some fans still consider it the ending while some don’t.
production wise, it is the finale, but nick stated that the order doesn’t really matter. also, it’s an alternate universe as stated by one of the people who worked on the arc, so i mean to each their own but you can’t really end a series off on an alternate universe because it’ll make people believe that was how it canonically ended.
It could have worked as a finale if it was framed as Renet watching a 'what if' scenerio in concern, as if getting a warning from her mentor on why it's important that the turtles remain. ;;
i personaly rank 2003 as just slightly better than 2012
Nothing wrong with that. Personally, I find 2012 series being the best out of them all, but 2003 series is the one I grew up with more as teenager, so i have more fondness towards it. The original series, I saw episodes as child but honestly, looking back, I'm not as fond of it as other fans.
if your curious the thing that puts 2003 ahead for me is
the story arcs in 2012 could feel verry cluttered at times look at the leonardo gets beat up thing in 2003 it had its own episode
in 2012 it had to share time with a alien invasion
and also the 2012 could shill toys a bit to hard at times several times things where clearly only put in to sell a toy then forgoten
i dont mind merchandise driven things but i just want shows to justify things better
The old series had the best videogames though.
I think the 2003 series is far better but 2012 is still damn good. 2003 Shredder was fantastic!
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skybite Member can mean dick, reading this comment made me laugh my ass off.
I saw some guy did the same thing on 1987/2012 crossover post on Facebook and one guy got triggered wanted to rip his 'member' off of him because he hates it when the Nick series is compared to member berries from South Park
Viacom bought TMNT in 2009, soon after Turtles Forever aired
That was an good buy for Viacom
I loved this show. It did TMNT justice and did an amazing job incorporating so many aspects and versions from past TMNT cartoons, movies, and comics.
"...Or moved in an awkward fashion" (*shows the one moment in the show that was intentionally animated awkwardly for comedic effect*) Sorry, I had to, besides that, great review
I'm suprised you didn't mention that Turtles's origin story is a bit diffrent in this show. I'm not TMNT fan but in most of the versions, I think, their origin was classic Daredevil's from other POV.
I did find it curious they didn't keep Dominic as Leo. I could notice some difference between him and Biggs, but he was still so similar, I would've kept him on (no offence to Seth Green).
Angry Spork Dominic sounded too much like Roger Craig Smith, who voices Mutagen Man and is the current voice of Sonic the Hedgehog
At first I hated the mutant apocalypse but after watching it a few times i enjoy it and consider it the finale
the 1987 Show Was Comedic.
I actually really liked the season 5 opening/theme. It took after Cowboy Beebop but it worked for me.
Are you going to watch Rise of the Teenage Mutant ninja turtles
I've been waiting for this for a long, long time
Toku Nation me toi.. I totta watch the first seasons someday again.. I have the dvds
The best adaptation of the turtles tend to be the ones that combine the mature tone of the mirage comics and the comedic tone of the 80s show, and this is definitely one that captures that well, as well as the 1990 film and the 2003 show.
I much preferred the Agent Bishop from the 2003 TMNT series. A soldier who fought in the war of 1812 was abducted and experimented on by aliens and has spent most of his life as a xenophobic alien-hunting government boogeyman who tries to dissect the Turtles and Splinter in order to create a new race of humans who can stand against any and all alien threats. I especially liked how they made Bishop's creepy cyborg clone of himself that universe's version of the Rat King in the episode "I, Monster".
Tmnt 2012 is an awesome show!
I agree.
3rd best show on nick right after invader zim and avatar the last air bender
hmm I skipped quite a few episodes from the final season. I may have to go back and watch them! Also glad to know that the show does have a satisfying finale (even if it technically isn't the "real" one) I agree that this is the best TMNT adaptation so far. My only criticisms were some of the loose threads that were never resolved, like the mutants who never got cured and turned back into humans like they wanted.
But... If Hamato Yoshi was the last thing the Turtles touched before they mutated, shouldn't he himself have become a turtle as well?
He had stepped on a rat's tail and that somehow makes him a rat instead of a turtle. Anyway it would be very weird to have mutant turtles training under a turtle Splinter.
Or turtles touching Splinter after he mutated...so they should be 1/3 human, 1/3 turtle, 1/3 rat.