@@thickerconstrictor9037 The book has an entire tribe of raptors, from children, to juveniles, to full blow adults, living in the maintence tunnels near the power station.
If there was an raptor outbreak maybe they were eating compys that have been used to clean thrash and dung on the park, just like the novel, and eating other dinosaurs like microceratus that have been breeding out of control like raptors and compys
@marianorocker or each other. How big was the pride? Muldoon said she "took over the pride and killed all but two of the others" so if there were several raptors breeding there could be a lot of them out there.
I kind of have a wild theory, would it be in the realms of possibility that the absent herd of Dilophosaurs could have been eaten by the raptors by exploiting the weaknesses in the fences, and being able to venture out into the other paddocks? Just a theory.
In earlier versions of the script for Jurassic Park, Wu is telling Hammond that the Raptors killed their pack mates and they never found the bodies, and it turns out that they weren’t actually killing each other, And the ones that were believed to have been killed were the ones that were breeding in the wild. also I wouldn’t be surprised if the the breeding has been happening long enough that there are in fact adult wild raptors, like in the novel, that take care of the younger ones and the eggs. In the novel, the wild Raptors avoid detection by being nocturnal and surviving off the rodent population on the island/ lack of nighttime surveillance of the park
@gregabott5583 all the animals had been modified to grow into adults very quickly and that modification could have mutated to make them grow up even faster than expected
I came here to say this. We don't know in the movie cannon how long the raptors were in their paddock before they were transported. The paddock is pretty big and they didn't know they were breeding. The eggs Grant found were freshly hatched. These raptors may have been unknown about and were isolated in the paddock protecting the eggs. Eggs hatched, they've gone a bit without food and now they are very hungry.
If this new raptor pack isn't from the colony found near the steam vents/beach/service tunnel in the novel's epilogue then it's a retcon and not deep lore. That's the only established lore about additional dino's. Everything else is a retcon, like if these raptor's are some batch of raptors that broke free from a Site B delivery right as the park went to shit, then meh.
my guess is unauthorised breeding, just like the novel. might be the raptors who layed the eggs that dr.Grant finds hatched in the wild. and thats why nobody found out about them since raptors are very protective of their nest and eggs seen in the jp3. maybe they were laying low by the nest until they hatched. some birds dont hunt and starve just to protect the nest.
I beg to differ. For you see, the other raptors had constructed a crude suspension bridge to Venezuela. Once there, they laid low and one assumed odd jobs under the name Mr. Pilkington.
Who’s to say the raptors only bread once? Sure the eggs in the nest we see in the film were freshly hatched but that doesn’t mean other clutches weren’t born 6 months to a year earlier?
True, if the others were locked up, and eggs had just hatched, since their track were there after the storm, then other raptors would have had to lay them, I don’t think the big one killed as many as they thought, I think ingen made assumptions based of how many they could find when they round them up, a few bodies
I like the idea that they’re pulling from the novel. It wasn’t just the raptors that could’ve overpopulated on the island. The colony were seen leaving the island and maybe subsisting on extra herbivores. The computers’ monitoring algorithm was not programmed to find more than the required population of dinos
I’ve got a theory: they didn’t recapture every Velociraptor. They assumed they were killing each other because no one found the rest, they saw one or two dead raptors and assumed that’s what happened to the rest. But that’s not what happened, so by accident they let enough Raptors stay in the wild long enough to breed, and those are the raptors we’ll face in Survival
the thing is, we do not know if the batch of eggs alan and the kids find are the only ones. most likely they're the most recent like you pointed out correctly, but we cannot rule out the possibility of even earlier hatchlings, which are now fully grown. so, imo, them being wild raptors makes a lot of sense.
They were shipped in from Site B as juveniles, then their DNA would have been used to make more Raptor eggs. Like Dr. Wu even said in the movie all the dinosaurs are female and they used a hormone at the right development stage to prevent them from becoming male dinosaurs. Dr. Grant realized this later that the frog DNA caused the dinosaur code to mutate, changing their sex from male to female in a single sex environment.
I don't think they would ship them in the same time as the inspection. I always wondered why they even bred raptors. I don't think I would breed anything smaller than a doorway lol
If you read the first book there was already raptors of different sizes roaming the island through the events of Jurassic park, would be even more interesting if the adolescent Rex would be on the island too
I came to comment this same thing. In the book we have Alan and the lawyer go and destroy the nest site in the caves. Also hope the game includes the swarms of compys that were allowed free reign in the park to clean up the poo. Always liked the small science in the books like the bacteria to break down Dino feces is extinct so it doesn't decompose fast enough
I would still love to see JA Bayona or Jordan Peele get hold of Lost World the novel and make a movie following it. I wouldn't even care where it fell in the timeline, if it even did.
1:46 not those hatched but those who were laying eggs. Following the main lore, there were more raptors but they never noticed due to the limit set on the counter linked to the park's video security and containment. Long story short: Once they've checked how many real raptors were roaming free they have also noticed all the other extra dinosaurs. That is the part were book and movie kinda blend together. So yeah I'm positive about this theory. There were more dinosaurs in general due to nesting far from rangers daily patroling.
I might have missed something but remembering the books but doesn't it suggest the dinosaurs were multiplying without the people knowing? Like Malcolm points out the flaw with the island systems how it only counts the numbers accounted for and doesn't check for additional numbers?
Yes! I LOVED the part in the book when they take the expected numbers out of the system and run the program to find ALL of each animal and are shocked at the amount of previously unknown animals out there. Not just raptors, I think nearly every species had more individuals on the island. BOOK SPOILERS: For those who haven’t read the book and are curious about details, the Park had the computer program set to count the expected number of animals, wanting to monitor if animals had been killed or escaped the island. They didn’t consider breeding to be a possibility so if the program was looking for let’s say 4 triceratops, it would stop counting when it found 4 and show “EXPECTED: 4 FOUND: 4” next to the animal. Any extra animals would be ignored. When they removed the anticipated numbers and let the program count all of each animal, it came up with “EXPECTED: 4 FOUND: 10” Really cool moment showing how life really did find a way.
@@ghostofbaz you’re welcome! It really stood out to me and, seeing how pretty much every animal was breeding, underlined how foolish they were about everything. I wish they had put it in the movie because it was a fantastic “oh, we really, really f-ed this up!” moment for some and “how arrogant were you to program the system like this?!?” for everyone else.
Raptors bred in the wild is the easiest solution. What we need is more info on the park animal tracking system. Is it a situation like the book where they were so confident in their process that they told the computer the exact amount of dinosaurs to look for. The computer locates the requested animals and ignores the rest. If that's the case, it is easier to believe that it would take a long time to notice extra dinosaurs
With regards to what they had been eating, I liked the part in the novel about there being a rodent problem, that mysteriously disappeared. The wild raptors eating them being the answer. That could be adapted...
Hey Klayton great video as always! From a production standpoint it has been confirmed those footprints are made by using the feet of the Baby Raptor SWS model pushed in to the ground, I believe it was Shannon Shea who confirmed this. So that further strengthens the idea they are indeed baby raptors. But I have this thought - are we supposed to believe those Raptors escaped the pen, travelled to near where Grant and the kids were, laid the eggs (where they hatched instantly!) then travelled back to nearby their pen and the power shed? In the timings of the film this feels unlikely, when you consider one went off to hunt Arnold and then the two others stalked the nearby jungle. So I get the impression the breeding was out of hand - and these are actually eggs laid by wild Raptors unaccounted for. They were probably remaining hidden and killing when opportunity struck. It's possible they were few in number but they must have been present to lay those eggs....what do you think?
@@KlaytonFioriti Haha - even if it's just three loose Raptors - you could very easily write the exposition for it "Alfie Betty and Celia, the three first cloned Raptors escaped the Big One by tunnelling out from their paddock. When park workers realised they were three Raptors short - they launched an emergency rehousing to a smaller pen so they could find the breach in the paddock. This coincided with an imminent visit by Grant and co, so it was not completed and the Raptors remained unaccounted for. Perhaps explaining Muldoons worry about door locks on the cars and paranoia about Raptors escaping"
The answer is there in the novel. There have been wild raptors in the jungle from the beginning. In the novel some raptors escaped way before the park opened and had been breeding in the wild for quite some time.
This is actually what I was thinking, I remember another video about the book/movie mentioning how some raptors had stowed away on the boat heading to the main land and wonder if that's how our extra raptors have made it to nublar instead of going to the main land on the boat with the others.
I’m taking pages from the actual novels and these are wild raptors that have been there a lot longer than anyone knew. These raptors would be first gen wild raptors that clearly grew up rather rapidly in the wild- this could be due to their genetics or literally, as you said, a Bumpy situation in which they have a hormone that naturally forces them to grow into adults a lot faster than they would normally. In the books as you know no one knew about it because of how subtly they were able to thrive in the wild, specifically by hunting on the rather agitating rat population. The fact that they made themselves known is likely a combination of the fact that the fences went down, there is literally nothing holding them back anymore, and their food source can no longer sustain them and now they’re going after larger prey. We may end up literally seeing that cave scene at long last after all these years near the end of the game.
So here's some looked over facts straight from the movie: Grant and the kids find the eggs *before* the velociraptors got out. (We know Nedry left the power on for the velociraptors pen because Mr Arnold outright says it, and their fence only lost power when Hammond orders that the system be shut off to reset it and that's when they made their escape. The system shut off scene is the scene after the egg scene). This means there must be other velociraptors on the island that laid the eggs. We also know that velociraptors eggs require incubation from the incubator in the birth scene. We know the eggs that grant finds weren't buried, because they are on top of the ground (turtle eggs, which are buried, stay buried and the baby turtles dig their way to the surface). This means a velociraptor had to sit on the eggs to incubate. All this means that its cannon that there are other velociraptors on the island from the beginning.
Well, in defense of the breeding raptor idea, the novel reveals a hidden colony, meaning that if this game were to go in that direction, then it would mean that raptors had been breeding and roaming around hidden for months if not years. Remaining undetected because of the laxed use of tally system of the motion trackers and presumably avoiding human contact. For those unaware, in the JP novel, they discover the dinosaurs are breeding when Arnold checks the tally program that counts the dino population on the island, and types in a higher number than the expected one. Because the computer was only programmed to let them know if they have less than the expected number, not more, it never alerted them. Hence, why they were oblivious. I can picture a moment where Dr. Joshi encounters raptors, but then questions how there could be three when she finds two of them dead in the Visitor Center, so she checks the computer and lo and behold, there's a population of around 40. So, if there were to be wild raptors, it would have to have been happening for some time. It wouldn't be an instant growth spurt. The nest seen in the film could've just been the most recent clutch, but far from the first. Could be that the raptor escapes from freezer and encounters these wild variants, and joins up with them. Again, if they were to use this plotline from the first book. I know it's a different canon, but if you present it right, it could work.
Also the line from the book, “let me guess when you first showed up to the island there was a rat problem, but over time it dwindled down?” I think the raptors had plenty of food to survive off of and maybe they would pick off small animals that inhabited the island
My theory is that the Site B ship containing the raptors (assuming that is the route they are taking) was just not at the island during the movie events - hence no worry. But the raptors broke out of their containment (similar to JP2 with the baby Rexes). Hence the boat doesn’t turn around when the park closes and it hits Isla Nublar.
I think the thing that makes me most excited about this game is the fact that they will show other locations and dinosaurs that were in the park, but we didn't see in the film, like the safari lodge and the baryonyx or metriacanthosaurus
my guess right now as to where these new raptors came from is that they _were_ brought over from Sorna and their actual arrival might even be seen firsthand by the player in an homage to the bull rex escaping at the end of TLW, (and partly the novel and one of the even older games) where where they were being shipped over but escaped en route, killed everyone on the ship, and then it crashed somewhere on the island, perhaps specifically as a "hope spot" moment for Maya as she sees the ship's lights and tries to flag it down for rescue only to realize it's getting a bit _too_ close to the shore
Yeah, Raptors having Xenomorph-like aging would be weird. The idea is that the breeding had been occurring for years up until that point. The eggs that Grant and the kids found were just the latest ones. The other Raptors that hatched before could be at least 8 months, and lethal. That, or it's a plot hole and a contrivance to get the most popular horror related dinosaur in a survival game. Remember how the book said that Isla Nublar previously had a rodent problem that suddenly went away? That's what the Raptor colony was eating, which is actually more palaeo-accurate (eating smaller, not larger prey in packs). Love your videos, keep up the good work!
I don't know about that more pale-accurate part. We don't have the diet of any dromosaurs. All is just theory, and the pack theory is not disproven yet and is backed up by the healing of major bone fractures (something that doesn't really happen with solo animals in the wild but does happen in communal ones) and their large brain to body size (larger than crows, communal birds, and larger than any pack hunting land mammal. While communal liveing doesn't mean pack hunting, see crows, there is nothing definative to say that it wasn't either.
Would be cool if we also got a survival horror video game based on the lost world but make it the island from the novel. That thing was scary to enter and once you were in you were pretty much trapped.
Well, to be fair, that was only one Raptor nest we saw in the first movie, and there might've been a few others in the Raptor Paddock before they got moved to the holding pen, and they might've been surviving by hunting some of the wildlife that was native to Isla Nublar before the dinosaurs were introduced.
TBH I cant fall asleep unless I have Jurassic Park on at night. Something about it JUST hits home.. idk if it's the sounds and voices but that movie is my ultimate Go to. Probably my favorite
Another theory I have is the raptors they were creating on Nublar in the lab... we literally see one hatch, then never see it again. It probably got sent to a nursery were other young raptors are being kept, maybe at different ages.. We later find out that sorna was the main island were the cloning happened, but regardless raptors were still seen being cloned on Nublar so there would be more around somewhere for sure. Muldoon said they are lethal at 8 months, so maybe the raptors in survival are young, maybe around 1 year old, so they are still lethal. Maybe they got cloned on Nublar to replace the ones that got killed, and saved time transporting them form sorna later on.
I really think the other raptors are the og ones from the movie and that their appearance as a trio takes place before they go after Muldoon. I feel like some of the game has to take place before 2 of them get offed by Rexy because it would be super abrupt to just start a day after the events of the first film. That's my bet.
The telltale game was one of my favorite games and this franchise is like my third parent to see it being like the novel the first one and second and third it could bring a grown man to tears
A little bit of both The eggs that grant found were part of the original group the ones that were part of jp that were killed by the big one. but The one we see in the holding pen are the ones that were brought over from site B hence why they were separated from the paddock. And why noone found those eggs. Everyone thought all the raptors were killed by the big one but a few escaped and been makin babies
The eggs were laid some time ago in the film. Eggs need to incubate and dont just hatch after 1 day. This is also before the raptors escaped. So there could be other raptors that laid those eggs and not just the 3 originals.
The eggs are from a different species of dinosaur, the prints look similar but that's all. And the raptors chasing her are the other raptors they had in the paddock. They were smaller and didn't need to be contained at the time the guests were vising the island.
All I want from Jurassic Park Survivor is a good combat system, where you can use weapons against the raptors or other threats that the character runs into throughout the game, it's not a horror survivor game if all you do is run and hide and have zero way to defend yourself like in Outlast games, but should be more like Survivor horror games where you have a weapons system, can make or craft weapons, or use the environment around you.
I would not be surprised if in the game we probably get a number of reasons as to how we have new raptors after the events of Jurassic Park but if I had to be honest I think these raptors in the game were brought over from site b.
Clever Video of the Raptor theory in the Jurassic Franchise especially from Jurassic Park 1993 and it seems very interesting and fascinating and great work on the amazing Jurassic Content. Great Work Klayton and as Always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
My best guess currently is that they were others bred to help replenish the population, given that they were clearly breeding raptors still in the facility. So, maybe Muldoon being worried about the Raptor fences might've included that as well. Whatever the reason, I hope that its well thought out too.
my theory is that it's more shady InGen dealings, like we've always assumed the company's turn to more overt villainy came after Hammond was forced out but there's no reason the board members behind the amalgam trials or the Jurassic Park 2 build up couldn't have been present prior to that, in fact this would be a really interesting place for Peter Ludlow to appear as he was clearly consolidating power and influence in InGen prior to his takeover in '96
The ones that hatched from the wild eggs certainly couldn't have grown to adult in about a day, BUT I'd say there is a chance that just like the original Jurassic Park Novel, there could've been a rouge wild population.
Of course it doesn't break canon - we KNOW from the book that raptors had been breeding in the wild in Jurassic Park for QUITE a while as there were far more counted than InGen's list accounted for, and while they really glossed over this in the film, even in the FILM we have proof that raptors ARE breeding - Grant comes across a raptor nest in the wild near the Brachiosaurs, with already hatched eggs showing tracks from the young that had left the nest. THIS means that those eggs MUST have been laid LONG before the events of the film - the three raptors could not POSSIBLY have escaped, laid eggs and HATCHED the eggs in the very short amount of time the guests were there. Meaning, quite CLEARLY, there were ALREADY - even in the film - ADULT, MATING raptors on the island. Now, how they GOT out there is anyone's guess, but a solid guess may simply be that the raptors in the pen and whatever individuals predated them HAD been breeding, the young hatched, and made their way outside of the fence, able to squeeze through some gap because they were much smaller than the adults. For large-bodied birds and reptiles, incubation time tends to be weeks to MONTHS - typically months - and there are NO species with large eggs that can incubate in a day or so. So, whatever raptors laid those eggs, it WASN'T the main three in the film. So, yeah. Film OR book, doesn't matter - raptors being loose on the island BEFORE Nedry shut the power off is 100% confirmed. At any rate the ones in the GAME set a day after JP do NOT have to be the same individuals that hatched from the eggs Grant found. They COULD be - we don't KNOW how long those eggs had sat there before Grant found them - but given how fresh the tracks look, VERY unlikely. THIS means that OTHER adult raptors are on the island OTHER than the hatchlings OR the big three - which, again, IS EXPECTED, since the main three raptors AREN'T THE ONES WHO LAID THOSE EGGS. Eggs do not materialize magically - meaning - and again the book and basic logical analysis of the raptor nest in the film CONFIRM these (the 3 main raptors did NOT escape and lay eggs months ago- they escaped HOURS ago - and eggs DO NOT INCUBATE AND HATCH in a matter of hours) - one very, very simple truth: Isla Nublar had a population of adult breeding raptors at MIIMIMUM months to years before Grant et al. arrive. The tracks are clearly too fresh to belong to adults - even with an accelerated growth rate, they WOULD NOT reach adulthood in 24 to 48 hours - and, again, eggs take months to incubate for large vertebrates. Even the pigeons that nest on my balcony incubate theirs for weeks - 18 to 19 days for a pigeon, 1.5 months for an ostrich, 2 months for an emu, 50 days for a cassowary, 9 to 10 weeks (2.5 months) for a crocodile. So yeah. Those raptor eggs were laid at minimum MONTHS ago. When the main 3 were in their pen. It should therefore surprise nobody that MULTIPLE adult raptors are FOR SURE running around on the island NOT INCLUDING the main 3, 1 day after the events of JP. In the BOOK, and the SNES game, there are entire underground raptor NESTING GROUNDS. The BOOK lists an EXPECTED raptor population of 8 - but a FOUND population of THIRTY SEVEN. The average clutch for most big birds is 1 to 6 eggs - so if you assume 4 breeding pairs (8 raptors), 29 offspring, suppose 3 surviving chicks per clutch, average, 12 chicks per breeding season for two years, possibly three, depending on survival rate. THIS by the way lines up with the nest in the film, which appears to show no fewer than 4 but no more than 5 eggs, with three trackway leading away from it and, in one egg, what appears to be *bones* of a chick that didn't make it. The fact that this chick is already reduced too a skeleton DOES reveal it's been at MINIMUM days since those ones hatched (maybe weeks), but the crisp outline of the footprints points to this having been on the lower end of the spectrum - maybe within the last week, and ants and compies just worked quickly (then again, no other tracks, so compies are unlikely to have fed). So, about 3 surviving chicks ran off from that clutch, which lines up with my proposed survival rate of about 3 per clutch, give or take one or two here or there -in the book, that extant population suggests breeding had been going on for years. I suspect the same is true in the film canon. The eggs ALSO reveal one other thing, by the way: the JP raptors are a "lay them and leave them" kind of parent. THere are no adult tracks around the nest - meaning they hadn't been there for a WHILE when they hatched - and more importantly, the eggshells are not crushed into many tiny pieces, such as you'd get with birds that stay IN the nest and are cared for after hatching until they can care for themselves. Instead you get these fairy neatly broken eggs with minimal signs of being rolled, stepped on and trampled by growing young. The footprints are also TINY - the same size as you'd get with one that hatched from an egg that size. This indicates they left the eggs to fend for themselves and the young upon hatching run off on their own almost immediately. It's worth noting that this CONFLICTS with the JPIII raptors, which DO guard their nests (though we don't know the level of parental care after hatching - perhaps none). Nerdy, I know, but I'm a paleontologist (as in, degreed and all, not the armchair kind) so I think about those things.
"We bred 8 originally, but the big one she killed all but the other 2." - Muldoon I have a feeling that the freezer raptor was Big One, so the other 2 Raptors are definitely new ones. I think the most simple answer to this all will be new shipment like JPTG.
"They show extraordinary intelligence, even problem-solving intelligence. Especially the big one. We bred eight originally, but when she came in she took over the pride and killed all but two of the others. That one... when she looks at you, you can see she's working things out."
You should do a video about Dino Crisis because Capcom released the results of the poll to see which Capcom game franchise needs a new game or sequel and Dino Crisis came out on top
I truly can’t wait for this game and I really do hope this is canon and actually makes logical sense with these three raptors returning. I want more lore building set during the original 3 movies. I stand by the idea of a mini series following Dr Wu and InGen returning to Isla Sorna before the events of JP3 where he clones the illegal species and the storm hits. That would be awesome!
maybe the raptors are smarter than we thought and did they just kill two of the original eight and the other three evaded the humans and kept them selfs hidden in the original enclosure feeding on small prey like lizards, snakes, birds, frogs and fish while making the nests like Alan Grant found. which would make muldoon and nedry unaware of these raptors still being alive.
I sincerely hope that this is thought out and canon. The idea of it following the idea of the Novel raptors could work if there's also other species that are smaller and grew wild on the island, as long as there's a convincing explanation to why they never knew about it, or, another way that the underground idea could work is if they use the tunnel systems of season 1 of Camp Cretaceous, or an earlier version of it as a way to transport food around the island without going around the park's fences, that way you could feed these wild raptors long enough to this point in the timeline, but not enough to live on after this. You could even work with scenes showing their intelligence avoiding park workers and going by unnoticed, grabbing food and getting out of view, with maybe an occasional missing person right before the last boat leaves the dock during the movie sequence, having a search party of people who stayed behind to get eating in game
Jurassic Park is my favorite movie and I’m thinking these raptors are the 3 raptors, their fences were shut down just like all the other dinosaurs fences in the park. So they are also loose during the storm just like the trex. And when Muldoon is looking at the raptor tracks on the way to the maintenance shed he does say the the shutdown must have turned off all the fences even Nedry knew not to mess with the raptor pen!
The raptors probably take a few years to get to full size but could reproduce before that. If they were kept in a different area they could have been breeding for a while and avoiding detection just like in the book. Also in the book there is a mention that the island had a huge rat problem that unexpected went away. That would be one source of food as well as cannibalism. They did eat a baby raptor in the book after all.
In the books, they talk about how the dinosaurs are eating the rats on the island. Like when they got to the Island, it was plagued with rats but as time went by, the rats all started to disappear. It was heavily implied that this was due to the compys and most likely the raptors too. To be fully grown and chasing people in so called safe zones seems far fetched but at the same time, they had a perimeter fence and in the books, the raptors dug down in to the service tunnels and were by the ocean side during the finale. So is it possible they managed to get back in or they are adapting part of the book, sure it could be. You also have to remember that in the book, they weren't killing the people on the boat, they were hiding from them which would mean at least that they might not be hunting the people actively and are avoiding them but when the power goes off, perhaps all bets were off. Not to mention, animals and storms you know. That extra level of agitation may have pushed them over the edge. Not to mention, if you remember, in the books, workers fixed broken fences with no protection detail and right in the Dilo territory without a worry in the world so from the sounds of things, people were pretty casual/suicidal in the books when it came to their own safety. So, is it possible that they are bred on the island, seems very unlikely with the timeline but it is possible. Also, you have to remember that in the books, the park workers didn't install the fence breakers properly and they got fried every time they came in to contact with the trees which meant fences were down consistently too. The novel dotted throughout how the park was really ramshackle construction. Low quality labor, people didn't understand what they were doing or how to do it and just kinda went with it. The entire park was doomed from the start and even though Hammond likes to say 'spared no expense' - he in fact was cutting corners in every way possible. Long story short, could there have been more raptors on the island, no, not unless you rewrite movie cannon. It is possible that the first raptor that changed to male did so early on and without any other males was the pack leader and was jumping all the females and creating lots of babies and the babies could have easily made it out of the fence when the power was down. However the problem with that is the way fences appeared in the movie is not the way they were depicted in the book, they were more akin to chain-link fences which means they would have needed to climb out which the raptors were good at but it would have been harder for the small ones. Which means if given the chance, the big ones would have escaped along with the small ones so that doesn't hold up. On top of that, if Muldoon knew about more Raptors in quarantine, he would have said so, he was freaked about just 3, if there was an entire pack 2 doors down, he would have lost his mind. However you want something that won't break the cannon and even gives a nod towards the book. The boat that arrived, the one that everybody was getting on to and Nedry was trying to reach. Have the raptors move from site B to site A using that boat, like an exodus that they were so freaked out about in the book, just reversed. Simple as that, Site B was a lab full of nitwits to begin with. That said, if you want to make it more obvious and not stowaways, just have broken crates by the docks along with shipping manifests that indicate that the ship was literally unloading them and to make it more fun, have the dates wrong. Like have some security feed showing some guy argue with the people trying to unload the boat, have it show that they were meant to take on some other dinosaurs but took the raptors instead. So they screwed up their delivery schedule. Just layer on the incompetence to another degree and have it as an Easter Egg for the hard core fans to go and figure out, either with looking at the documents, or finding the video feed with or without sound. Maybe if you play it, you garner the attention of the raptors so you gotta run but if you stay close enough, you hear it all. Or if you want to spoon feed it to the players, just literally have your game character pick it up, deduce it for you, and complain that they screwed it up and now they are her problem. Maybe give her a few seconds to actually get some character development by talking to herself. Now that was meant to be my 2 cents but it feels like it was my JP ted talk. So hope you like it.
Ooh and just to add to that wall of text, you could also have the video show the guys are trying to figure it out and make calls but the phones are buggy and they cut out, it would have to be before Nedry purposefully takes them out or perhaps even that he gets through to somebody but they already left early. Perhaps even just have them told to put them out and it will be taken care of but then it never is because the people responsible just figure it can wait a day till they are back. Perhaps even have food and water put in the place they were meant to be kept till after the storm. You can really push more of the book's intent on a barely held together mess if you just show gross incompetence and negligence everywhere you go. Just a constant mentality of, not my problem/don't worry, it will work out.
In the comics Allen Grant did point out that there were defects in the counting program and that there was sporadic breeding happening "somehow". Hammond waved it off as a kook theory and chastized Nedry's shoddy programmer skills for miscounting on he screen which is what prompted Nedry to do the "extended diagnostic" that doomed the park. No one on the park had caught on that the raptors were breeding because they were the most aggressive, JP was undermanned and no one was going out of their way to stumble onto freaking nests.
Mauldun said the lead raptor killed ALL THE OTHER RAPTORS but the 2 in her pack, they also should have all the animals born in the labs tagged, so the only logical possibility would be prior to the head raptor from the first movie being introduced to the part some eggs would have had to been laid that she didn't get when she killed the other raptors. That would put them old enough to be full grown, but then you have to ask how no one spotted them for likely a year or more.
It could be a shot from an intro sequence before the game kicks off fully. Maybe the game starts before the film and they use the raptor round-up/relocation that kicks off the 93 film as a tutorial sequence? After all, we see exactly 3 raptors in the shot...
Well, heres my goong theory. When Muldoon was doing his exposition on how they smart they are, and how ruthless The Big One was, its likely they had some raptors already escape, but then killed some of their own pack members to explain some of the missing raptors just chalked up to "Oh they were killed and cannibalized"
Yeah, I'm guessing the raptors bred and those little ones booked it from the raptor enclosure because the other adults were trying to eat them. That would explain the adults fighting among themselves, and eventually the raptors were desperate to break out of their enclosure. Possibly to relocate the young, but were unsuccessful. That first batch of baby raptors escaped into other parts of the island and ate rats, just like in the book. They grew up and had begun breeding off grid out in the wild as well.
3:28 those eggs are fresh too. so laid by adult raptors in the wild thst could have been born while the original raptors were in their paddock. if we use the logic of the counting in the books they simply rounded up the expected number of raptors after they started killing each other leaving enough in the wild to lay those eggs?
I like to think that they are the raptors who were “killed” when the big one took over. That they tested the fences found a weakness and got out. Then Muldoon assumed they were killed and eaten by the 3 left while they were roaming taking out smaller game on the island waiting for the big one to get free from the new enclosure.
In my opinion, I think the first theory may be possible. Maybe the original amount of raptors, before the events of the movie and the introduction to “The Big One”, may have secretly dug underneath the fences, while in their original paddock, without the park workers having suspicion, and begun breeding in the wild, though only doing so at night. Then again, I could be wrong and we’ll have to wait for the game to come out to get more context. Come to think of it, what I said does remind me of that old Jurassic Park comic run from the 90s.
A third theory would be a combination of the first two: The raptors had already been breeding on Isla Sorna and some escaped into the wild and boarded a ship from Sorna to Nublar. At Nublar, they remained anonymous and began to reproduce there. The nest that Grant and the children find would be one of these raptors.
Looking at the tracks, the hatchlings are following a possible adult or sub adult. There could've been say like 2 left in the paddock and hide somewhere and JP workers chalked them up dead since they couldn't find them so they ended up breeding
I have a couple of theories. One, even though the game takes place one day after, I think that parts of it are going to run concurrently with the movie. Two, they are incorporating aspects of the novel into the game. The concept of the main character traveling down the river is proof of that. If that is the case, then there could be more raptors because there were definitely more raptors in the novel than there were in the movie. Or three, they incorporating aspects from both of the theories previously mentioned
Personally i think that rexy didn’t kill the three raptors in Jurassic park. I think that they were probably just knocked out like the atrociraptors in chaos theory. They weren’t killed like the stabbed one in the lost world or blown up like in Jurassic world.
They will make up whatever explanation they want/need, but taking from the book makes the most sense. As for what they eat, if you believe that all the dinos were breeding, then that gives them more food. It's been years, but I believe that was the explanation for why the computer way always able to count the number it was set to find.
I think it makes the most sense that there were raptors wild on the island the whole time without anyone knowing. They would have evaded humans at all costs, knowing that they're captors at best. There's also no reason to think there isn't local wildlife on the island that they would hunt for food. We hear it throughout the movie the whole time.
In my opinion, the most sensible option is that the eight female raptors somehow escaped from their enclosure before the Big One arrived and laid eggs. The raptors born in captivity would have escaped detection by hunting mainly at night: this is explained in the book, where it is said that the raptors that reproduced came out of their dens only at night, feeding mainly on mice and rats and the occasional puppy dinosaur. Furthermore, in the book, the raptors were able to escape the detection systems, which in the films are only mentioned by Hammond as a security measure, but which we never see in action during the film. My guess is that the new raptors in the game are the brood of the pre-Big One raptors, the three that survived and would be near-adults by the time the game takes hold (presumably shortly after the Nublar incident ).
I say while reading the novel, they explained how there were wild raptors being born outside the holding pen. There were several adult raptors running around and even underground. Also, dr. Grant and Muldoon killed several raptors on their own. Maybe a few survived before they bombed the island the next day. Only my theory based off the novel
I would imagine it would be like in the novel: when they were in the original Velociraptor paddock they bred unbeknownst to JP staff (prior to the creation of the raptor pen)
Klayton I like your idea that there may be a raptor colony underground, the reason why no one knows about it is, anytime a maintenance worker goes into the tunnels they get munched on by the raptors
The recently hatched eggs that Grant finds don't need to be the only ones in the paddock. They could've been breeding in there for months, before they started killing each other and Muldoon put them in the cage. And just as in the book, because they weren't looking for more animals than they had, the new raptors would've stayed unnoticed, hidden somewhere inside the paddock.
On the pack of raptors from the book, I think they also had the ability to camouflage like the indom had from the movies and the carnos had from the book. That could explain why no one found them.
In the book the colony wasn't noticed until they found the juvenile and they went looking, in regard to the movie if there was nest before the raptors were moved they could've had time to grow, also the "big one" was added more recently so the older ones could have bred already and the little ones got out. This makes me want to read the book again
Maybe the big one didn’t kill all the others They made 8, but captured 3, that 5 unaccounted for, they may have found 3 dead bodies, looked for the other 2 but couldn’t find them, assumed their bodies were somewhere in the enclosure or eaten, and wrote them off. We know the one in the freezer survived so maybe she was rejoined by the other two after finding freedom when the power was off. Remember the power stayed on at the raptor containment thing but the enclosure they can from, where the other 2 were hiding, was probably out
Spitballin here but maybe they are from the clutch of eggs before the one that hatched with Dr. Grant during the tour and just hadn't been integrated with the adults yet.
Alan grant: "fast for a biped?" Robert Muldoon: "Cheetah speed, 50 to 60 mph if they ever got out in the open and they're astonishing jumpers" I agree with the 2nd theory that they're raptors that were shipped from site B like in the tell tale videogame... I mean its a nice tie end with camp cretaceous with the whole excellerated growth rate courtesy of bumpy the ankylosaurus in the future but i mean idk if ingen itself back in the 90s had access to accelerated growth rate capability to give to the ingen clones unlike with the world saga especially acknowledging it in camp cretaceous... With the hatchling velociraptors gaining that ability just like how the virus 112 Ceasar inheritaned from his mom passing it from mother to son in rise of the planet of the apes... Im hoping this game JP: survival is canon and if not it is what it is. I mean this is a fictional story/movie/game based on a couple of novels anything can happen as long as the script says otherwise again thats the kind of world we live in now a days but anyway want a more faithful look at what the colonies of raptors like from the 1st novel check out raptor island and idk if you want to review that on dragoncurve cant wait to hear what you think of that film from the early 2000s i mean in my own opinion its like a 5 or 6 out 10 i mean the cgi is ok for being made for low budget for the sci-fi channel and certainly alot more tolerable than some of the carnosaur movies im especially looking at you the eden project... 2:10 to 2:46 yeah i agree i mean i imagine that they might have mated in that original paddock or the raptor holding pen in the movie and after they escaped then the female or females again questioning the sex of the 3 individuals is up in the air laid their eggs after the power went out... Also very nice artwork by Jaroslav Kosmina nice art peices. 😁👍
I think we might also consider a third theory: Maybe the game starts during the events of the original movie, so the raptors that we see are actually the three raptors from the movie before they met their fate. If that's the case, it would allow us to see how and when the raptors actually escaped, as well as explain why she could not make it to the boat in the first place. It might sound a bit far-fetched, but imagine if we could follow Dr. Joshi during and after the events of the movie. Maybe she got to witness some of our favorite scenes from afar, like how Dr. Grant and Malcolm used the flares to lure Rexy, or many other scenes, in a similar fashion to how the Nublar 6 witnessed the events of the Jurassic World franchise in Camp Cretaceous. Personally, I'd love to follow Dr. Maya from the time the power went out. What do you think?
Theory - they are born in the wild, raptor paddock ; they are that clever they stay underground in the park in some pipes from a young age and wait to surface as adults after the storm in 93
What if the eggs that doctor grant stumbled upon were actually the second generation of velociraptors. The idea I'm suggesting is that there Is a small population of wild velociraptors that survive the big 1Take over, were somehow able to hide from the humans when they rounded up the last free velociraptors and stayed in the raptor paddock hunting prey until they eventually laid eggs. The nest could potentially be from that group of velociraptors. If that is the case, that means there are 2 generations of wild velociraptors that have been living on the island, and it would explain where those eggs came from due to them being the children of the 1st generation of wild velociraptors.
Remember they had no problems with rats in the book? (To explain how they’ve survived) I may be wrong but I think they very briefly mention that the rat problem disappeared in the first film
“They’re lethal at eight months. And I do mean lethal.”
Yeah but not 8 hours. The game takes place right after they leave the island eggs JUST hatched
@@thickerconstrictor9037Exactly, which is I think the Sorna theory holds more water.
I dont know why they would want to bring them at the same time the island is being inspected. But hammond gotta hammond. @@beenjammin2000
@@thickerconstrictor9037 The book has an entire tribe of raptors, from children, to juveniles, to full blow adults, living in the maintence tunnels near the power station.
Dude was right. They should all have been destroyed. Lol
I think raptors have breeding from the beginning in the wild and hiding on caves on mount Sibo or the tunels just like the novel...
If there was an raptor outbreak maybe they were eating compys that have been used to clean thrash and dung on the park, just like the novel, and eating other dinosaurs like microceratus that have been breeding out of control like raptors and compys
This is my guess. No one says Grants clutch is the first clutch hatched.
@marianorocker or each other. How big was the pride? Muldoon said she "took over the pride and killed all but two of the others" so if there were several raptors breeding there could be a lot of them out there.
@@HumanHamCube They bread 8 originally. So based on that 1 "Male" and 7 females
I kind of have a wild theory, would it be in the realms of possibility that the absent herd of Dilophosaurs could have been eaten by the raptors by exploiting the weaknesses in the fences, and being able to venture out into the other paddocks? Just a theory.
In earlier versions of the script for Jurassic Park, Wu is telling Hammond that the Raptors killed their pack mates and they never found the bodies, and it turns out that they weren’t actually killing each other, And the ones that were believed to have been killed were the ones that were breeding in the wild.
also I wouldn’t be surprised if the the breeding has been happening long enough that there are in fact adult wild raptors, like in the novel, that take care of the younger ones and the eggs. In the novel, the wild Raptors avoid detection by being nocturnal and surviving off the rodent population on the island/ lack of nighttime surveillance of the park
people are forgetting about the baby raptors, the one from the hatchery and the ones from the clutch of eggs that grant and the kids found
@gregabott5583 no but who is to say that was the first clutch
Maybe they were infused with xenomorph dna @gregabott5583
@gregabott5583 all the animals had been modified to grow into adults very quickly and that modification could have mutated to make them grow up even faster than expected
@@terrysyvertson9205 Yeah but Survivor begins one day after.
I remember reading that Tim threw one of the baby raptors at one of the Adults and it ate it.
I’m thinking it’s like Michael Crichton‘s novel that the Raptors had escaped and had been breeding in the wild for years🤔
My exact thought too
For sure.
My favorite part of the novel was Malcolm figuring out the island had more dinosaurs then everyone figured.
I came here to say this. We don't know in the movie cannon how long the raptors were in their paddock before they were transported. The paddock is pretty big and they didn't know they were breeding. The eggs Grant found were freshly hatched. These raptors may have been unknown about and were isolated in the paddock protecting the eggs. Eggs hatched, they've gone a bit without food and now they are very hungry.
Jurassic park has so much lore and in the movies it’s hardly looked at!
Why do I see you everywhere
If this new raptor pack isn't from the colony found near the steam vents/beach/service tunnel in the novel's epilogue then it's a retcon and not deep lore. That's the only established lore about additional dino's. Everything else is a retcon, like if these raptor's are some batch of raptors that broke free from a Site B delivery right as the park went to shit, then meh.
There’s only two books. There’s no other lore.
my guess is unauthorised breeding, just like the novel. might be the raptors who layed the eggs that dr.Grant finds hatched in the wild. and thats why nobody found out about them since raptors are very protective of their nest and eggs seen in the jp3. maybe they were laying low by the nest until they hatched. some birds dont hunt and starve just to protect the nest.
I beg to differ. For you see, the other raptors had constructed a crude suspension bridge to Venezuela. Once there, they laid low and one assumed odd jobs under the name Mr. Pilkington.
And Mr. Plinket-on
Obscure, but funny.
“The critic “ if any one was wondering
Perhaps tou have said too much
😂
Who’s to say the raptors only bread once? Sure the eggs in the nest we see in the film were freshly hatched but that doesn’t mean other clutches weren’t born 6 months to a year earlier?
True, if the others were locked up, and eggs had just hatched, since their track were there after the storm, then other raptors would have had to lay them, I don’t think the big one killed as many as they thought, I think ingen made assumptions based of how many they could find when they round them up, a few bodies
As I pointed out they made escape attempts before, how many were successful as in they got out for longer than a day
That's my thinking as well. The eggs we see in the movie are third generation perhaps, and the ones in Survival are second generation
I like the idea that they’re pulling from the novel. It wasn’t just the raptors that could’ve overpopulated on the island. The colony were seen leaving the island and maybe subsisting on extra herbivores. The computers’ monitoring algorithm was not programmed to find more than the required population of dinos
I’ve got a theory: they didn’t recapture every Velociraptor. They assumed they were killing each other because no one found the rest, they saw one or two dead raptors and assumed that’s what happened to the rest. But that’s not what happened, so by accident they let enough Raptors stay in the wild long enough to breed, and those are the raptors we’ll face in Survival
the thing is, we do not know if the batch of eggs alan and the kids find are the only ones. most likely they're the most recent like you pointed out correctly, but we cannot rule out the possibility of even earlier hatchlings, which are now fully grown. so, imo, them being wild raptors makes a lot of sense.
They were shipped in from Site B as juveniles, then their DNA would have been used to make more Raptor eggs. Like Dr. Wu even said in the movie all the dinosaurs are female and they used a hormone at the right development stage to prevent them from becoming male dinosaurs. Dr. Grant realized this later that the frog DNA caused the dinosaur code to mutate, changing their sex from male to female in a single sex environment.
Did they use Growth Hormones in dinosaurs?
I don't think they would ship them in the same time as the inspection. I always wondered why they even bred raptors. I don't think I would breed anything smaller than a doorway lol
If you read the first book there was already raptors of different sizes roaming the island through the events of Jurassic park, would be even more interesting if the adolescent Rex would be on the island too
I came to comment this same thing. In the book we have Alan and the lawyer go and destroy the nest site in the caves. Also hope the game includes the swarms of compys that were allowed free reign in the park to clean up the poo. Always liked the small science in the books like the bacteria to break down Dino feces is extinct so it doesn't decompose fast enough
I would still love to see JA Bayona or Jordan Peele get hold of Lost World the novel and make a movie following it. I wouldn't even care where it fell in the timeline, if it even did.
1:46 not those hatched but those who were laying eggs.
Following the main lore, there were more raptors but they never noticed due to the limit set on the counter linked to the park's video security and containment.
Long story short: Once they've checked how many real raptors were roaming free they have also noticed all the other extra dinosaurs.
That is the part were book and movie kinda blend together.
So yeah I'm positive about this theory. There were more dinosaurs in general due to nesting far from rangers daily patroling.
Somehow the raptors returned.
Something has survived
Palpatine raptors 😆
Cue "disbelief look"
I might have missed something but remembering the books but doesn't it suggest the dinosaurs were multiplying without the people knowing? Like Malcolm points out the flaw with the island systems how it only counts the numbers accounted for and doesn't check for additional numbers?
Yes! I LOVED the part in the book when they take the expected numbers out of the system and run the program to find ALL of each animal and are shocked at the amount of previously unknown animals out there. Not just raptors, I think nearly every species had more individuals on the island.
BOOK SPOILERS: For those who haven’t read the book and are curious about details, the Park had the computer program set to count the expected number of animals, wanting to monitor if animals had been killed or escaped the island. They didn’t consider breeding to be a possibility so if the program was looking for let’s say 4 triceratops, it would stop counting when it found 4 and show “EXPECTED: 4 FOUND: 4” next to the animal. Any extra animals would be ignored. When they removed the anticipated numbers and let the program count all of each animal, it came up with “EXPECTED: 4 FOUND: 10” Really cool moment showing how life really did find a way.
@jmbond6728 thanks for that. Been a very long time since i read it so couldn't remember it clearly
@@ghostofbaz you’re welcome! It really stood out to me and, seeing how pretty much every animal was breeding, underlined how foolish they were about everything. I wish they had put it in the movie because it was a fantastic “oh, we really, really f-ed this up!” moment for some and “how arrogant were you to program the system like this?!?” for everyone else.
Raptors bred in the wild is the easiest solution. What we need is more info on the park animal tracking system. Is it a situation like the book where they were so confident in their process that they told the computer the exact amount of dinosaurs to look for. The computer locates the requested animals and ignores the rest.
If that's the case, it is easier to believe that it would take a long time to notice extra dinosaurs
With regards to what they had been eating, I liked the part in the novel about there being a rodent problem, that mysteriously disappeared. The wild raptors eating them being the answer. That could be adapted...
Hey Klayton great video as always! From a production standpoint it has been confirmed those footprints are made by using the feet of the Baby Raptor SWS model pushed in to the ground, I believe it was Shannon Shea who confirmed this. So that further strengthens the idea they are indeed baby raptors. But I have this thought - are we supposed to believe those Raptors escaped the pen, travelled to near where Grant and the kids were, laid the eggs (where they hatched instantly!) then travelled back to nearby their pen and the power shed? In the timings of the film this feels unlikely, when you consider one went off to hunt Arnold and then the two others stalked the nearby jungle. So I get the impression the breeding was out of hand - and these are actually eggs laid by wild Raptors unaccounted for. They were probably remaining hidden and killing when opportunity struck. It's possible they were few in number but they must have been present to lay those eggs....what do you think?
I think that’s the only thing that makes sense I’ve heard so far haha.
@@KlaytonFioriti Haha - even if it's just three loose Raptors - you could very easily write the exposition for it "Alfie Betty and Celia, the three first cloned Raptors escaped the Big One by tunnelling out from their paddock. When park workers realised they were three Raptors short - they launched an emergency rehousing to a smaller pen so they could find the breach in the paddock. This coincided with an imminent visit by Grant and co, so it was not completed and the Raptors remained unaccounted for. Perhaps explaining Muldoons worry about door locks on the cars and paranoia about Raptors escaping"
The answer is there in the novel. There have been wild raptors in the jungle from the beginning. In the novel some raptors escaped way before the park opened and had been breeding in the wild for quite some time.
Would be cool if they adapt the raptor colony migrating off the island by boats.
This is actually what I was thinking, I remember another video about the book/movie mentioning how some raptors had stowed away on the boat heading to the main land and wonder if that's how our extra raptors have made it to nublar instead of going to the main land on the boat with the others.
I’m taking pages from the actual novels and these are wild raptors that have been there a lot longer than anyone knew.
These raptors would be first gen wild raptors that clearly grew up rather rapidly in the wild- this could be due to their genetics or literally, as you said, a Bumpy situation in which they have a hormone that naturally forces them to grow into adults a lot faster than they would normally.
In the books as you know no one knew about it because of how subtly they were able to thrive in the wild, specifically by hunting on the rather agitating rat population.
The fact that they made themselves known is likely a combination of the fact that the fences went down, there is literally nothing holding them back anymore, and their food source can no longer sustain them and now they’re going after larger prey.
We may end up literally seeing that cave scene at long last after all these years near the end of the game.
So here's some looked over facts straight from the movie:
Grant and the kids find the eggs *before* the velociraptors got out. (We know Nedry left the power on for the velociraptors pen because Mr Arnold outright says it, and their fence only lost power when Hammond orders that the system be shut off to reset it and that's when they made their escape. The system shut off scene is the scene after the egg scene). This means there must be other velociraptors on the island that laid the eggs.
We also know that velociraptors eggs require incubation from the incubator in the birth scene. We know the eggs that grant finds weren't buried, because they are on top of the ground (turtle eggs, which are buried, stay buried and the baby turtles dig their way to the surface). This means a velociraptor had to sit on the eggs to incubate.
All this means that its cannon that there are other velociraptors on the island from the beginning.
Well, in defense of the breeding raptor idea, the novel reveals a hidden colony, meaning that if this game were to go in that direction, then it would mean that raptors had been breeding and roaming around hidden for months if not years. Remaining undetected because of the laxed use of tally system of the motion trackers and presumably avoiding human contact. For those unaware, in the JP novel, they discover the dinosaurs are breeding when Arnold checks the tally program that counts the dino population on the island, and types in a higher number than the expected one. Because the computer was only programmed to let them know if they have less than the expected number, not more, it never alerted them. Hence, why they were oblivious. I can picture a moment where Dr. Joshi encounters raptors, but then questions how there could be three when she finds two of them dead in the Visitor Center, so she checks the computer and lo and behold, there's a population of around 40.
So, if there were to be wild raptors, it would have to have been happening for some time. It wouldn't be an instant growth spurt. The nest seen in the film could've just been the most recent clutch, but far from the first. Could be that the raptor escapes from freezer and encounters these wild variants, and joins up with them.
Again, if they were to use this plotline from the first book. I know it's a different canon, but if you present it right, it could work.
Also the line from the book, “let me guess when you first showed up to the island there was a rat problem, but over time it dwindled down?” I think the raptors had plenty of food to survive off of and maybe they would pick off small animals that inhabited the island
My theory is that the Site B ship containing the raptors (assuming that is the route they are taking) was just not at the island during the movie events - hence no worry. But the raptors broke out of their containment (similar to JP2 with the baby Rexes). Hence the boat doesn’t turn around when the park closes and it hits Isla Nublar.
I think the thing that makes me most excited about this game is the fact that they will show other locations and dinosaurs that were in the park, but we didn't see in the film, like the safari lodge and the baryonyx or metriacanthosaurus
my guess right now as to where these new raptors came from is that they _were_ brought over from Sorna and their actual arrival might even be seen firsthand by the player in an homage to the bull rex escaping at the end of TLW, (and partly the novel and one of the even older games) where where they were being shipped over but escaped en route, killed everyone on the ship, and then it crashed somewhere on the island, perhaps specifically as a "hope spot" moment for Maya as she sees the ship's lights and tries to flag it down for rescue only to realize it's getting a bit _too_ close to the shore
At least one couple of adult raptors has to roam free, in order to lay the eggs that Grant and the kids find.
Yeah, Raptors having Xenomorph-like aging would be weird. The idea is that the breeding had been occurring for years up until that point. The eggs that Grant and the kids found were just the latest ones. The other Raptors that hatched before could be at least 8 months, and lethal. That, or it's a plot hole and a contrivance to get the most popular horror related dinosaur in a survival game.
Remember how the book said that Isla Nublar previously had a rodent problem that suddenly went away? That's what the Raptor colony was eating, which is actually more palaeo-accurate (eating smaller, not larger prey in packs). Love your videos, keep up the good work!
I don't know about that more pale-accurate part. We don't have the diet of any dromosaurs. All is just theory, and the pack theory is not disproven yet and is backed up by the healing of major bone fractures (something that doesn't really happen with solo animals in the wild but does happen in communal ones) and their large brain to body size (larger than crows, communal birds, and larger than any pack hunting land mammal. While communal liveing doesn't mean pack hunting, see crows, there is nothing definative to say that it wasn't either.
Would be cool if we also got a survival horror video game based on the lost world but make it the island from the novel. That thing was scary to enter and once you were in you were pretty much trapped.
Well, to be fair, that was only one Raptor nest we saw in the first movie, and there might've been a few others in the Raptor Paddock before they got moved to the holding pen, and they might've been surviving by hunting some of the wildlife that was native to Isla Nublar before the dinosaurs were introduced.
TBH I cant fall asleep unless I have Jurassic Park on at night. Something about it JUST hits home.. idk if it's the sounds and voices but that movie is my ultimate Go to. Probably my favorite
They had BETTER have the Triceratops be Cape Buffalo type aggressive for rappelling the raptors like in The Lost World novel!
Another theory I have is the raptors they were creating on Nublar in the lab... we literally see one hatch, then never see it again. It probably got sent to a nursery were other young raptors are being kept, maybe at different ages..
We later find out that sorna was the main island were the cloning happened, but regardless raptors were still seen being cloned on Nublar so there would be more around somewhere for sure. Muldoon said they are lethal at 8 months, so maybe the raptors in survival are young, maybe around 1 year old, so they are still lethal.
Maybe they got cloned on Nublar to replace the ones that got killed, and saved time transporting them form sorna later on.
I really think the other raptors are the og ones from the movie and that their appearance as a trio takes place before they go after Muldoon. I feel like some of the game has to take place before 2 of them get offed by Rexy because it would be super abrupt to just start a day after the events of the first film. That's my bet.
The telltale game was one of my favorite games and this franchise is like my third parent to see it being like the novel the first one and second and third it could bring a grown man to tears
A little bit of both The eggs that grant found were part of the original group the ones that were part of jp that were killed by the big one. but The one we see in the holding pen are the ones that were brought over from site B hence why they were separated from the paddock. And why noone found those eggs. Everyone thought all the raptors were killed by the big one but a few escaped and been makin babies
I’m honestly happy they decided to include more than just the one on the frigde, raptors work way better in the franchise as a pack of themn
The eggs were laid some time ago in the film. Eggs need to incubate and dont just hatch after 1 day. This is also before the raptors escaped. So there could be other raptors that laid those eggs and not just the 3 originals.
The eggs are from a different species of dinosaur, the prints look similar but that's all. And the raptors chasing her are the other raptors they had in the paddock. They were smaller and didn't need to be contained at the time the guests were vising the island.
All I want from Jurassic Park Survivor is a good combat system, where you can use weapons against the raptors or other threats that the character runs into throughout the game, it's not a horror survivor game if all you do is run and hide and have zero way to defend yourself like in Outlast games, but should be more like Survivor horror games where you have a weapons system, can make or craft weapons, or use the environment around you.
I would not be surprised if in the game we probably get a number of reasons as to how we have new raptors after the events of Jurassic Park but if I had to be honest I think these raptors in the game were brought over from site b.
Clever Video of the Raptor theory in the Jurassic Franchise especially from Jurassic Park 1993 and it seems very interesting and fascinating and great work on the amazing Jurassic Content.
Great Work Klayton and as Always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
Thanks for covering this! I posted this question in the last video! Lot of fun theories!
Love that there will be more raptors and the River Cruise from the novel.❤
agreed, inspiration from the books need to be taken more!
My best guess currently is that they were others bred to help replenish the population, given that they were clearly breeding raptors still in the facility. So, maybe Muldoon being worried about the Raptor fences might've included that as well. Whatever the reason, I hope that its well thought out too.
I think the "Shipped from Site B" option is the easiest way to explain them.
my theory is that it's more shady InGen dealings, like we've always assumed the company's turn to more overt villainy came after Hammond was forced out but there's no reason the board members behind the amalgam trials or the Jurassic Park 2 build up couldn't have been present prior to that, in fact this would be a really interesting place for Peter Ludlow to appear as he was clearly consolidating power and influence in InGen prior to his takeover in '96
The ones that hatched from the wild eggs certainly couldn't have grown to adult in about a day, BUT I'd say there is a chance that just like the original Jurassic Park Novel, there could've been a rouge wild population.
Of course it doesn't break canon - we KNOW from the book that raptors had been breeding in the wild in Jurassic Park for QUITE a while as there were far more counted than InGen's list accounted for, and while they really glossed over this in the film, even in the FILM we have proof that raptors ARE breeding - Grant comes across a raptor nest in the wild near the Brachiosaurs, with already hatched eggs showing tracks from the young that had left the nest. THIS means that those eggs MUST have been laid LONG before the events of the film - the three raptors could not POSSIBLY have escaped, laid eggs and HATCHED the eggs in the very short amount of time the guests were there. Meaning, quite CLEARLY, there were ALREADY - even in the film - ADULT, MATING raptors on the island. Now, how they GOT out there is anyone's guess, but a solid guess may simply be that the raptors in the pen and whatever individuals predated them HAD been breeding, the young hatched, and made their way outside of the fence, able to squeeze through some gap because they were much smaller than the adults.
For large-bodied birds and reptiles, incubation time tends to be weeks to MONTHS - typically months - and there are NO species with large eggs that can incubate in a day or so. So, whatever raptors laid those eggs, it WASN'T the main three in the film.
So, yeah. Film OR book, doesn't matter - raptors being loose on the island BEFORE Nedry shut the power off is 100% confirmed.
At any rate the ones in the GAME set a day after JP do NOT have to be the same individuals that hatched from the eggs Grant found. They COULD be - we don't KNOW how long those eggs had sat there before Grant found them - but given how fresh the tracks look, VERY unlikely. THIS means that OTHER adult raptors are on the island OTHER than the hatchlings OR the big three - which, again, IS EXPECTED, since the main three raptors AREN'T THE ONES WHO LAID THOSE EGGS. Eggs do not materialize magically - meaning - and again the book and basic logical analysis of the raptor nest in the film CONFIRM these (the 3 main raptors did NOT escape and lay eggs months ago- they escaped HOURS ago - and eggs DO NOT INCUBATE AND HATCH in a matter of hours) - one very, very simple truth:
Isla Nublar had a population of adult breeding raptors at MIIMIMUM months to years before Grant et al. arrive.
The tracks are clearly too fresh to belong to adults - even with an accelerated growth rate, they WOULD NOT reach adulthood in 24 to 48 hours - and, again, eggs take months to incubate for large vertebrates. Even the pigeons that nest on my balcony incubate theirs for weeks - 18 to 19 days for a pigeon, 1.5 months for an ostrich, 2 months for an emu, 50 days for a cassowary, 9 to 10 weeks (2.5 months) for a crocodile. So yeah. Those raptor eggs were laid at minimum MONTHS ago. When the main 3 were in their pen.
It should therefore surprise nobody that MULTIPLE adult raptors are FOR SURE running around on the island NOT INCLUDING the main 3, 1 day after the events of JP. In the BOOK, and the SNES game, there are entire underground raptor NESTING GROUNDS. The BOOK lists an EXPECTED raptor population of 8 - but a FOUND population of THIRTY SEVEN. The average clutch for most big birds is 1 to 6 eggs - so if you assume 4 breeding pairs (8 raptors), 29 offspring, suppose 3 surviving chicks per clutch, average, 12 chicks per breeding season for two years, possibly three, depending on survival rate.
THIS by the way lines up with the nest in the film, which appears to show no fewer than 4 but no more than 5 eggs, with three trackway leading away from it and, in one egg, what appears to be *bones* of a chick that didn't make it. The fact that this chick is already reduced too a skeleton DOES reveal it's been at MINIMUM days since those ones hatched (maybe weeks), but the crisp outline of the footprints points to this having been on the lower end of the spectrum - maybe within the last week, and ants and compies just worked quickly (then again, no other tracks, so compies are unlikely to have fed).
So, about 3 surviving chicks ran off from that clutch, which lines up with my proposed survival rate of about 3 per clutch, give or take one or two here or there -in the book, that extant population suggests breeding had been going on for years. I suspect the same is true in the film canon.
The eggs ALSO reveal one other thing, by the way: the JP raptors are a "lay them and leave them" kind of parent. THere are no adult tracks around the nest - meaning they hadn't been there for a WHILE when they hatched - and more importantly, the eggshells are not crushed into many tiny pieces, such as you'd get with birds that stay IN the nest and are cared for after hatching until they can care for themselves. Instead you get these fairy neatly broken eggs with minimal signs of being rolled, stepped on and trampled by growing young. The footprints are also TINY - the same size as you'd get with one that hatched from an egg that size. This indicates they left the eggs to fend for themselves and the young upon hatching run off on their own almost immediately.
It's worth noting that this CONFLICTS with the JPIII raptors, which DO guard their nests (though we don't know the level of parental care after hatching - perhaps none). Nerdy, I know, but I'm a paleontologist (as in, degreed and all, not the armchair kind) so I think about those things.
"We bred 8 originally, but the big one she killed all but the other 2." - Muldoon
I have a feeling that the freezer raptor was Big One, so the other 2 Raptors are definitely new ones. I think the most simple answer to this all will be new shipment like JPTG.
"They show extraordinary intelligence, even problem-solving intelligence. Especially the big one. We bred eight originally, but when she came in she took over the pride and killed all but two of the others. That one... when she looks at you, you can see she's working things out."
Those 8 raptors could have been breedin g. Perhaps the "Big one" was population control for the other adults that were a danger to the young?
You should do a video about Dino Crisis because Capcom released the results of the poll to see which Capcom game franchise needs a new game or sequel and Dino Crisis came out on top
This is gonna be awesome and We should wait for the answer
I truly can’t wait for this game and I really do hope this is canon and actually makes logical sense with these three raptors returning. I want more lore building set during the original 3 movies. I stand by the idea of a mini series following Dr Wu and InGen returning to Isla Sorna before the events of JP3 where he clones the illegal species and the storm hits. That would be awesome!
maybe the raptors are smarter than we thought and did they just kill two of the original eight and the other three evaded the humans and kept them selfs hidden in the original enclosure feeding on small prey like lizards, snakes, birds, frogs and fish while making the nests like Alan Grant found. which would make muldoon and nedry unaware of these raptors still being alive.
Life finds a way. People are forgetting that
I sincerely hope that this is thought out and canon. The idea of it following the idea of the Novel raptors could work if there's also other species that are smaller and grew wild on the island, as long as there's a convincing explanation to why they never knew about it, or, another way that the underground idea could work is if they use the tunnel systems of season 1 of Camp Cretaceous, or an earlier version of it as a way to transport food around the island without going around the park's fences, that way you could feed these wild raptors long enough to this point in the timeline, but not enough to live on after this. You could even work with scenes showing their intelligence avoiding park workers and going by unnoticed, grabbing food and getting out of view, with maybe an occasional missing person right before the last boat leaves the dock during the movie sequence, having a search party of people who stayed behind to get eating in game
Jurassic Park is my favorite movie and I’m thinking these raptors are the 3 raptors, their fences were shut down just like all the other dinosaurs fences in the park. So they are also loose during the storm just like the trex. And when Muldoon is looking at the raptor tracks on the way to the maintenance shed he does say the the shutdown must have turned off all the fences even Nedry knew not to mess with the raptor pen!
The raptors probably take a few years to get to full size but could reproduce before that. If they were kept in a different area they could have been breeding for a while and avoiding detection just like in the book. Also in the book there is a mention that the island had a huge rat problem that unexpected went away. That would be one source of food as well as cannibalism. They did eat a baby raptor in the book after all.
In the books, they talk about how the dinosaurs are eating the rats on the island. Like when they got to the Island, it was plagued with rats but as time went by, the rats all started to disappear. It was heavily implied that this was due to the compys and most likely the raptors too. To be fully grown and chasing people in so called safe zones seems far fetched but at the same time, they had a perimeter fence and in the books, the raptors dug down in to the service tunnels and were by the ocean side during the finale. So is it possible they managed to get back in or they are adapting part of the book, sure it could be. You also have to remember that in the book, they weren't killing the people on the boat, they were hiding from them which would mean at least that they might not be hunting the people actively and are avoiding them but when the power goes off, perhaps all bets were off. Not to mention, animals and storms you know. That extra level of agitation may have pushed them over the edge. Not to mention, if you remember, in the books, workers fixed broken fences with no protection detail and right in the Dilo territory without a worry in the world so from the sounds of things, people were pretty casual/suicidal in the books when it came to their own safety. So, is it possible that they are bred on the island, seems very unlikely with the timeline but it is possible. Also, you have to remember that in the books, the park workers didn't install the fence breakers properly and they got fried every time they came in to contact with the trees which meant fences were down consistently too. The novel dotted throughout how the park was really ramshackle construction. Low quality labor, people didn't understand what they were doing or how to do it and just kinda went with it. The entire park was doomed from the start and even though Hammond likes to say 'spared no expense' - he in fact was cutting corners in every way possible. Long story short, could there have been more raptors on the island, no, not unless you rewrite movie cannon. It is possible that the first raptor that changed to male did so early on and without any other males was the pack leader and was jumping all the females and creating lots of babies and the babies could have easily made it out of the fence when the power was down. However the problem with that is the way fences appeared in the movie is not the way they were depicted in the book, they were more akin to chain-link fences which means they would have needed to climb out which the raptors were good at but it would have been harder for the small ones. Which means if given the chance, the big ones would have escaped along with the small ones so that doesn't hold up. On top of that, if Muldoon knew about more Raptors in quarantine, he would have said so, he was freaked about just 3, if there was an entire pack 2 doors down, he would have lost his mind.
However you want something that won't break the cannon and even gives a nod towards the book. The boat that arrived, the one that everybody was getting on to and Nedry was trying to reach. Have the raptors move from site B to site A using that boat, like an exodus that they were so freaked out about in the book, just reversed. Simple as that, Site B was a lab full of nitwits to begin with. That said, if you want to make it more obvious and not stowaways, just have broken crates by the docks along with shipping manifests that indicate that the ship was literally unloading them and to make it more fun, have the dates wrong. Like have some security feed showing some guy argue with the people trying to unload the boat, have it show that they were meant to take on some other dinosaurs but took the raptors instead. So they screwed up their delivery schedule. Just layer on the incompetence to another degree and have it as an Easter Egg for the hard core fans to go and figure out, either with looking at the documents, or finding the video feed with or without sound. Maybe if you play it, you garner the attention of the raptors so you gotta run but if you stay close enough, you hear it all. Or if you want to spoon feed it to the players, just literally have your game character pick it up, deduce it for you, and complain that they screwed it up and now they are her problem. Maybe give her a few seconds to actually get some character development by talking to herself.
Now that was meant to be my 2 cents but it feels like it was my JP ted talk. So hope you like it.
Ooh and just to add to that wall of text, you could also have the video show the guys are trying to figure it out and make calls but the phones are buggy and they cut out, it would have to be before Nedry purposefully takes them out or perhaps even that he gets through to somebody but they already left early. Perhaps even just have them told to put them out and it will be taken care of but then it never is because the people responsible just figure it can wait a day till they are back. Perhaps even have food and water put in the place they were meant to be kept till after the storm. You can really push more of the book's intent on a barely held together mess if you just show gross incompetence and negligence everywhere you go. Just a constant mentality of, not my problem/don't worry, it will work out.
In the comics Allen Grant did point out that there were defects in the counting program and that there was sporadic breeding happening "somehow". Hammond waved it off as a kook theory and chastized Nedry's shoddy programmer skills for miscounting on he screen which is what prompted Nedry to do the "extended diagnostic" that doomed the park.
No one on the park had caught on that the raptors were breeding because they were the most aggressive, JP was undermanned and no one was going out of their way to stumble onto freaking nests.
Mauldun said the lead raptor killed ALL THE OTHER RAPTORS but the 2 in her pack, they also should have all the animals born in the labs tagged, so the only logical possibility would be prior to the head raptor from the first movie being introduced to the part some eggs would have had to been laid that she didn't get when she killed the other raptors. That would put them old enough to be full grown, but then you have to ask how no one spotted them for likely a year or more.
It could be a shot from an intro sequence before the game kicks off fully. Maybe the game starts before the film and they use the raptor round-up/relocation that kicks off the 93 film as a tutorial sequence? After all, we see exactly 3 raptors in the shot...
Well, heres my goong theory. When Muldoon was doing his exposition on how they smart they are, and how ruthless The Big One was, its likely they had some raptors already escape, but then killed some of their own pack members to explain some of the missing raptors just chalked up to "Oh they were killed and cannibalized"
Escaped Raptor:
“You’re not putting me the cooler”
Yeah, I'm guessing the raptors bred and those little ones booked it from the raptor enclosure because the other adults were trying to eat them. That would explain the adults fighting among themselves, and eventually the raptors were desperate to break out of their enclosure. Possibly to relocate the young, but were unsuccessful. That first batch of baby raptors escaped into other parts of the island and ate rats, just like in the book. They grew up and had begun breeding off grid out in the wild as well.
3:28 those eggs are fresh too. so laid by adult raptors in the wild thst could have been born while the original raptors were in their paddock. if we use the logic of the counting in the books they simply rounded up the expected number of raptors after they started killing each other leaving enough in the wild to lay those eggs?
I like to think that they are the raptors who were “killed” when the big one took over. That they tested the fences found a weakness and got out. Then Muldoon assumed they were killed and eaten by the 3 left while they were roaming taking out smaller game on the island waiting for the big one to get free from the new enclosure.
In my opinion, I think the first theory may be possible. Maybe the original amount of raptors, before the events of the movie and the introduction to “The Big One”, may have secretly dug underneath the fences, while in their original paddock, without the park workers having suspicion, and begun breeding in the wild, though only doing so at night. Then again, I could be wrong and we’ll have to wait for the game to come out to get more context.
Come to think of it, what I said does remind me of that old Jurassic Park comic run from the 90s.
A third theory would be a combination of the first two: The raptors had already been breeding on Isla Sorna and some escaped into the wild and boarded a ship from Sorna to Nublar. At Nublar, they remained anonymous and began to reproduce there. The nest that Grant and the children find would be one of these raptors.
Looking at the tracks, the hatchlings are following a possible adult or sub adult. There could've been say like 2 left in the paddock and hide somewhere and JP workers chalked them up dead since they couldn't find them so they ended up breeding
I have a couple of theories. One, even though the game takes place one day after, I think that parts of it are going to run concurrently with the movie.
Two, they are incorporating aspects of the novel into the game. The concept of the main character traveling down the river is proof of that. If that is the case, then there could be more raptors because there were definitely more raptors in the novel than there were in the movie.
Or three, they incorporating aspects from both of the theories previously mentioned
Personally i think that rexy didn’t kill the three raptors in Jurassic park. I think that they were probably just knocked out like the atrociraptors in chaos theory. They weren’t killed like the stabbed one in the lost world or blown up like in Jurassic world.
They will make up whatever explanation they want/need, but taking from the book makes the most sense. As for what they eat, if you believe that all the dinos were breeding, then that gives them more food. It's been years, but I believe that was the explanation for why the computer way always able to count the number it was set to find.
Where did you get the art in your thumbnail dude? Also keep up the content fun stuff!
I’m sure Henry had some sneaky side stuff goin on at this point too
I think it makes the most sense that there were raptors wild on the island the whole time without anyone knowing. They would have evaded humans at all costs, knowing that they're captors at best. There's also no reason to think there isn't local wildlife on the island that they would hunt for food. We hear it throughout the movie the whole time.
In my opinion, the most sensible option is that the eight female raptors somehow escaped from their enclosure before the Big One arrived and laid eggs. The raptors born in captivity would have escaped detection by hunting mainly at night: this is explained in the book, where it is said that the raptors that reproduced came out of their dens only at night, feeding mainly on mice and rats and the occasional puppy dinosaur.
Furthermore, in the book, the raptors were able to escape the detection systems, which in the films are only mentioned by Hammond as a security measure, but which we never see in action during the film.
My guess is that the new raptors in the game are the brood of the pre-Big One raptors, the three that survived and would be near-adults by the time the game takes hold (presumably shortly after the Nublar incident ).
Noticed the "Raptor Paddock" scene too. Every time I see it, I think to myself, "That CAN'T be that small holding pen". Must be a sizable exhibit.
I say while reading the novel, they explained how there were wild raptors being born outside the holding pen. There were several adult raptors running around and even underground. Also, dr. Grant and Muldoon killed several raptors on their own. Maybe a few survived before they bombed the island the next day. Only my theory based off the novel
I would imagine it would be like in the novel: when they were in the original Velociraptor paddock they bred unbeknownst to JP staff (prior to the creation of the raptor pen)
Nice vid
Klayton I like your idea that there may be a raptor colony underground, the reason why no one knows about it is, anytime a maintenance worker goes into the tunnels they get munched on by the raptors
The recently hatched eggs that Grant finds don't need to be the only ones in the paddock. They could've been breeding in there for months, before they started killing each other and Muldoon put them in the cage. And just as in the book, because they weren't looking for more animals than they had, the new raptors would've stayed unnoticed, hidden somewhere inside the paddock.
On the pack of raptors from the book, I think they also had the ability to camouflage like the indom had from the movies and the carnos had from the book. That could explain why no one found them.
In the book the colony wasn't noticed until they found the juvenile and they went looking, in regard to the movie if there was nest before the raptors were moved they could've had time to grow, also the "big one" was added more recently so the older ones could have bred already and the little ones got out. This makes me want to read the book again
Maybe the big one didn’t kill all the others
They made 8, but captured 3, that 5 unaccounted for, they may have found 3 dead bodies, looked for the other 2 but couldn’t find them, assumed their bodies were somewhere in the enclosure or eaten, and wrote them off.
We know the one in the freezer survived so maybe she was rejoined by the other two after finding freedom when the power was off. Remember the power stayed on at the raptor containment thing but the enclosure they can from, where the other 2 were hiding, was probably out
Spitballin here but maybe they are from the clutch of eggs before the one that hatched with Dr. Grant during the tour and just hadn't been integrated with the adults yet.
If there was a feral population of raptors, I'm sure there were plenty of rats and seabirds as well as the occasional sea turtle for them to feast on.
Alan grant: "fast for a biped?"
Robert Muldoon: "Cheetah speed, 50 to 60 mph if they ever got out in the open and they're astonishing jumpers"
I agree with the 2nd theory that they're raptors that were shipped from site B like in the tell tale videogame... I mean its a nice tie end with camp cretaceous with the whole excellerated growth rate courtesy of bumpy the ankylosaurus in the future but i mean idk if ingen itself back in the 90s had access to accelerated growth rate capability to give to the ingen clones unlike with the world saga especially acknowledging it in camp cretaceous... With the hatchling velociraptors gaining that ability just like how the virus 112 Ceasar inheritaned from his mom passing it from mother to son in rise of the planet of the apes... Im hoping this game JP: survival is canon and if not it is what it is.
I mean this is a fictional story/movie/game based on a couple of novels anything can happen as long as the script says otherwise again thats the kind of world we live in now a days but anyway want a more faithful look at what the colonies of raptors like from the 1st novel check out raptor island and idk if you want to review that on dragoncurve cant wait to hear what you think of that film from the early 2000s i mean in my own opinion its like a 5 or 6 out 10 i mean the cgi is ok for being made for low budget for the sci-fi channel and certainly alot more tolerable than some of the carnosaur movies im especially looking at you the eden project...
2:10 to 2:46 yeah i agree i mean i imagine that they might have mated in that original paddock or the raptor holding pen in the movie and after they escaped then the female or females again questioning the sex of the 3 individuals is up in the air laid their eggs after the power went out...
Also very nice artwork by Jaroslav Kosmina nice art peices. 😁👍
I think we might also consider a third theory: Maybe the game starts during the events of the original movie, so the raptors that we see are actually the three raptors from the movie before they met their fate. If that's the case, it would allow us to see how and when the raptors actually escaped, as well as explain why she could not make it to the boat in the first place.
It might sound a bit far-fetched, but imagine if we could follow Dr. Joshi during and after the events of the movie. Maybe she got to witness some of our favorite scenes from afar, like how Dr. Grant and Malcolm used the flares to lure Rexy, or many other scenes, in a similar fashion to how the Nublar 6 witnessed the events of the Jurassic World franchise in Camp Cretaceous. Personally, I'd love to follow Dr. Maya from the time the power went out.
What do you think?
Just a thought those images could be set before the final scenes of the movie so they could just be the original raptors, unless I missed something
Theory - they are born in the wild, raptor paddock ; they are that clever they stay underground in the park in some pipes from a young age and wait to surface as adults after the storm in 93
Okay we talking baby raptors question is, who laid them?
Canonically, in the movie, there are 4 Raptors or more....The baby and its siblings...
What if the eggs that doctor grant stumbled upon were actually the second generation of velociraptors. The idea I'm suggesting is that there Is a small population of wild velociraptors that survive the big 1Take over, were somehow able to hide from the humans when they rounded up the last free velociraptors and stayed in the raptor paddock hunting prey until they eventually laid eggs. The nest could potentially be from that group of velociraptors. If that is the case, that means there are 2 generations of wild velociraptors that have been living on the island, and it would explain where those eggs came from due to them being the children of the 1st generation of wild velociraptors.
Remember they had no problems with rats in the book? (To explain how they’ve survived) I may be wrong but I think they very briefly mention that the rat problem disappeared in the first film
I hope you do a playthrough when it comes out.