What Women Really Think About Six-Pack Abs | Dr.Mike Israetel
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I saw some video of these girls that were saying they like a dad bod "like this" and then proceed to show a picture of a guy who is built like a tank. Little bit more bodyfat, but with the physique not achievable by most of men. So there is a factor that women have no idea what dad bod is, anything thats not lean is automatically a dad bod.
The famous "dad bod" photo I've seen was Chris Bumstead...Mr. Olympia champion of classic physique...during a bulk.
@@blakefelice6625 Yeah, the "dad bod" that they like is just a guy who lifts regularly but isn't particularly discipline about his diet. He still looks good in clothes and the lack of abs isn't a deal breaker for most women. Especially if comes with a nice face.
@ I am not talking about the chris bumstead photo, the guy on the pic i am talking about was not even close to that but still looked like someone who has been lifting for about 10 years. I dont want to talk about the cbum pic because those girls were not representing average woman iq.
It's mostly out of shape guys that think dad bod is an excuse for being skinny fat or grossly overweight. Dad bod is well muscled with maybe 20-25% body fat, it's just poorly named
@ I agree, some men think being skinny fat or just obese is "dad bod" some women think anything above 10% bodyfat is dad bod. When I hear "dad bod" i remember my father when I was a kid. He had a gut, but shoulders, arms and back like a gorilla.
If there's one thing to know about women, a lot of them act nice and never want to come off as mean. So when they pick the dad bod, it's to not sound superficial. Food for thought.
I will tell you from experience with both and overwhelming the six pack abs will fair much better. Doesn’t have to be super ripped but just enough to see some abs.
I concur because at 5’8”, i am invisible to women. But when i am at the pool, i get a ton of attention because my shirt is off
Fairing much better with getting laid, or with finding a long term monogamous relationship? Because I would agree that being ripped is good for getting laid, but those girls will typically cheat on you if you try to date them. I’ve always been more fit than the average guy, but I’m slow to get serious until I find someone I know is into me for more than superficial reasons.
@ fair point but I was more talking about opening more doors to the initial conversation. If you can’t even catch her interest you will never have a chance at the first date. It’s not the end all be all but it does help.
@@rubenperez509 True. But even still, it’s easier to catch her interest with a decent face and a well-put-together outfit than abs. Approaching her and lifting your shirt will probably get you a hard eye roll from most women. If you’re at a party or out with a group, a fun personality and humor also works better than a body. I’ve been outclassed by skinny guys and chubby guys because they were super charismatic. I have to fight my introversion hard, so I’m a lot better one on one.
6 packs are for men. Women don’t care as long as you’re fit.
Dad bods won’t have as many options. Super fit men have more options and women don’t like to deal with competition from other pretty women. Women hate each other when it comes to dating a man they’re all attracted towards
But they all want a man that can get other women. Make it make sense
True but it baffles me how much effort women do for a man way over their league. They are with 20 battling for one man while there are thousands of good men single, it's annoying.
@@Ariovistus50That’s their nature. It goes back to Eve in the garden of Eden. If you study that you’ll see a woman’s nature. It just sucks for the rest of us short average looking guys.
You are 100 percent correct.
@@Ariovistus50 you don’t understand women’s biological need and their dual mating strategy. It’s called alpha phucks and beta bucks
I don’t get all the girls I want. But I get all the girls that want me.
DLR
That's a good starting point!
Athletic or a military man physique is the best in my opinion. It's a perfect combo of leanness and muscularity. It strikes the balance. Whereas overly lean and overly bulky physiques just fall off the balance.
This whole discussion is confusing to me… while I am 6’3, I look like neither body type, but have a personality and make a lot of money, and fully enjoy being spoiled for choice with attractive women in their 20’s (I’m almost 40) 🤷♂️
@@Matt-tt4cuyea tall and rich is more important than ripped. 6' -3" is the ideal body type for women unless you're very overweight.
Girls want a guy who weights 175 while also looking like he weights 245
When women say they like dad-bods, I think they mean a hot dad bod. So not a fitness model physique, but an attractive dad's physique. I'm guessing they mean like 20% body fat, not overweight or obese.
They’re thinking of someone like Henry Cavill.
“Women” is hardly even a category. That includes 98yo, lesbians, girls with trust funds, crackheads, etc
I would add there are women who play violin and read Chaucer in the evenings. And there are women who think Kanye West is a “musician”. Two different species
When as men are we going to stop caring what women think and just be in shape for ourselves and longevity.
Women should compliment your life and what you have going on. Not be a focus
When we stop caring about women in general. Which is never or the human race has gone extinct.
Amen bruh... Amen 🤝
I get what you’re saying however we focus on it because it has an effect on getting women. That’s why one of the reasons we work out is to look good so that we are more appealing to a lot of women because we know deep down they like masculine, muscular type guys. There’s really no other reason to get extremely jacked health wise. You can be just as healthy skinny with no muscles as opposed to someone who does.
Because we’re not gay.
Never. On some level, most people that work out are doing it to be more attractive to the people they’re interested in.
I believe in letting the guest speak 😂😂😂
I mean its pretty easy to check. Make a timder profile with a jacked guy and a dad bod and see which one fairs better
Exactly
1 would be for sex and the other for marriage. 1st guy was definitely on point though. Women feel more comfortable around the dad bod because they can’t be held to a high standard since the guy himself isn’t.
@@whohonestlycares1989There are other factors involved as well. Women don’t want to come off as being shallow. They also don’t want to have to deal with the fact that they will have more competition to deal with. They don’t want to feel like he can easily leave them for somebody better and that they don’t have the power and upper hand in the relationship.
Okan Serbes is a good example. I can name so many more.
@@whohonestlycares1989 yea because if Henry Cavil proposed to them they'd tell em to piss off to get with me coach potato. Get real
Women have NEVER answered any questions truthfully about what they like and dislike about men and what men should do to improve their dating odds so why should I believe that they're telling the truth this time?
Don’t listen to them but watch their actions.
That's sheer paranoid nonsense.
Bingo
@ Really? Explain.
@strategicsage7694 yeah... women never lie about what they want or how they feel... they never go along with what society says in spite of what they really think.... just a far right conspiracy theory... that women....might....lie.
I think that the guy who trains is just more confident and disciplined vs the ones that don't and that appeals more attractive. At least, that's what working out makes me feel; However, there are times where I over trained. It sort of lowers my confidence a little because I'm so used to being fit and not improving and the mental slump fatigue that comes with over training puts your mind in a stall.
Because training is an addiction- it’s not about discipline.
I see so many silly men get so caught up with training that they judge men who don’t train and get anxious if they miss a week or even a day of training.
If a chick asks, “What’s your hobby?” They say, “Gym…” Gym’s their identity but they want to act like they fight themselves to go to the gym every day, and possess just enough heart to win that fight, whereas the men who aren’t in the gym don’t have the heart and are lesser for it.
It really is a fight though. And yes, the undisciplined men are lesser for it. It’s just that simple. Once you do that kind of work in the gym you understand these concepts quite clearly.
And not just in the gym but especially with what you eat and any diet as well.
If you want to know what women find attractive, don't ask them. Look at the men in their romance novels.
Exactly! I’ve been saying that for the longest time. You’ll never see plumber Joe with a balding head and a beer gut hanging over his belt on those romance novels. It’s always dudes like Henry Cavill or Alan Ritchson.
Been married a long time and maintained a dad bod most the time. A few years back I changed my fitness and started working out hard. Now I’m jacked and leaned out. Not a month ago she was laying on my chest and stated she loves how I look but my old build was more comfortable to cuddle with. Just can’t win.
The sidekick dude is right. They don’t want other Women going after you…
Seeing Graham on your channel is a culture shock...
What women think about six pack conversation without actual women involved.
sounds like the view, or any all female cast talk show
Well, to be fair they referenced other interviews with women.
It’s important to take what women say with a grain of salt, though, because their actions often contradict what they deem attractive. “I want a nice guy” and then they go for a jerk. Or they’re not clear about what ‘nice’ means…
A gentleman with a backbone.
Anyway, they’ll like whatever the right guy who comes along has. They’ll say they want one thing until their feelings tell them “this guy,” and it’s not even who they described.
So what am I saying? Having a woman on and asking her if she likes abs isn’t gonna give as much info as just seeing which guys women go for, & end up with.
You don’t need to involve women. They’ve proven they don’t know what they want and they’re unreliable.
It's not like women tell the truth about what they want so it's just as well
I think its pretty obvious and clear that being ripped is more sexually compelling, and being dad bod is more friend/feeling comfortable around compelling. Both are good at different times, and either can be both, but its clear that those are probably the first impressions.
Attraction is not a choice.
Yep. It's just nature. At the end of the day we're animals and we don't even have Free Will, although we try to pretend to ourselves that we do. Don't believe me, just go down the "Free Will is an illusion" rabit hole and you'll see interviews with Annaka Harris, Robert Sapolsky and Sam Harris to name a few
Not true, there is a difference between human discernment and blind animalistic sexual attraction.
Also, is there only attraction and unnattraction? Or are there levels of attraction like on a scale of 1 to 10?
@@kevinnorris6157 There's definitely levels of attraction, but we have no choice. It's baked into our DNA and the hormones/emotions. Humans don't even have actual free will. Within 20 years more advanced fRMI technology is going to prove that humans have no Free Will in our conscious awareness. Decision making happens BEFORE our conscious awareness even begins pondering the topic. Our conscious awareness is basically all smoke and mirrors sadly. We're no more sentient than the robots on HBO's Westworld
Brad Pitt's body in fight club was undefeated.
Bruce Lee from Enter the Dragon has entered the chat
Pitt looked better, Lee has that scene where he fighting in trunks and has scrawny legs lol
@@daniel79tj His legs are not big, but they are ripped, you can see the definition in his legs very easily.
Now we have dudes like Alan Ritchson.
120 lbs. 5 ft tall
@@DimitriTheBarbarian Height 5′ 8″, Weight 141 lbs
At the gym the only point of importance is the nod of approval from Dr Mike
A fat belly usually comes with a fat face... And I think first impressions are everything. First thing a women is going to look at is your face. I was 180 and now I am 230 and I haven't felt desires since I was 22 years old and now I am 31.
How tall are you?
"Daddy needs to eat" 😂
I liked dad bods hands down all day long when I wasn’t working on myself to be fit. Seemed like they enjoyed life more and were less intimidating than a guy who would constantly get onto me about diets, workouts, and sleep schedules, etc.
Oh how the tables have turned. Now that I’m back in the gym getting back to my “normal” and caring about all that, I prefer the 6 pack. I admire the discipline, the persistence, dedication it takes to get there. Still need to be kind and smart though otherwise the attention span goes from relationship material to look-don’t-touch.
The problem with the dad bod theory and women is it lacks context. I've seen women go nuts for a goofy confident beer bellied buddy. But if they aren't comfortable with themselves it's the opposite. That being said, they universally lose thier shit and say smash for Brad pit in fight club. It doesn't matter, they all like lean and ripped and flip a brain switch.
Sure I’ve seen the occasional short out of shape average looking guy with a beautiful girl however it’s definitely not the norm. Now I’ve seen average looking girls with average looking guys the most however anytime I’ve seen a super attractive woman she’s almost always with an attractive guy.
Being relatively in shape. With some sort of definition. Like 15% bf women will always go for over super ripped.
watch them dance around the truth
What is the truth? Do tell. 😅
Havent even watched the video but that they like abs and like muscular guys but they never admit it@@CarterME
Maybe it’s a defense mechanism. Something they’re not comfortable revealing so the truth is intentionally concealed.
@@FactologyIt’s true. Women will sabotage other women when single. I she says she doesn’t like it other women will agree because sisterhood in public. But really they just means she has less competition.
@@CaptainCologneThey don’t want to come off as being shallow but any guy with a lot of life experience and perception knows the true nature of a woman. Deep down they truly want the tall, good looking, masculine, muscular type of guy. There’s a reason why there’s always a muscular, masculine, good looking guy on the cover of romance novels and not plumber Joe with a blading head and a beer gut hanging over his belt.
One HyperThroid underweight guy at my college smokes all the gym bro and gets all the gals. And they bring food for him
As a woman, I find super jacked men intimidating. I alway think that I need to tip-toe around these kind of guys. Any wrong move then he's gonna leave me or hurt me physically. Atleast thats how my brain works. I dont know with other women.
Do remember that a few years ago there was a video of some women looking at a picture of Chris Bumstead in his off-season and they said he had a dad body and he most certainly did not habe a dad bod.
Facial attractiveness overrides everything else
true but heavily linked to bf % its amazing how much more attractive the same face looks on a lower % than a high %. So many of the facial features reveal etc
They did this before...when asked if they could have the guy and he would be faithful, they always took the jacked guy every time, even after intially taking the dad bod.
I’ve been working out for 24 years, have the body of an NFL player
And without a doubt, having muscles, being built like an athlete makes it much easier to attract women
I dont have game, I dont dress well, I earn above average income but I am 6,2 220 lbs with about 10% bodyfat and I’ve never had a problem attracting women
Your story isn't the same for many other guys. You may be an outlier, and I am sure your height plays a part in that. Also, could be they like your face too and therefore you likely would have attracted them whether you were jacked or not. I've also been working out for about 20 years and sitting at the same bf percentage and I can say first hand that while you will attract women with a better body, it's not typically like most guys expect. You'll often attract overweight, unattractive women. In fact, most of the compliments jacked guys get are often from other guys rather than women. A body alone isn't enough. Women are much more complex than we are.
@@Triniboi05Your geographical location in relation to your ethnicity plays a big part as well. I live in Nashville TN which is a small predominantly white city. I don’t do fairly well here because I’m 5’6 half Filipino and Hispanic. Now back when I lived in Dallas TX I did a little better because it was a much bigger city that was more ethically diverse with a big Hispanic community. However the downside to being in a bigger city is that you have more competition with better looking guys.
This sounds like I am making it up, it even sounds too good to be true to some. But every single guy I know with a 6-pack/8-pack has problems with women and their relationships do not last very long. Women are usually startled at first, because they have never seen a 6-pack in real life (for most), however after touching their abs (sometimes having a one-night-stand/fling) the novelty tends to wear off for them. One of my close friends, who is the most shredded guy I know recently got left by his girlfriend, she just walked out on him and he never even seen the signs.. he came home one day and her things were gone, bags packed and no sign of her, she dropped him a message and said it was over. They literally lived together. She moved to a different city.
Now I am not fly on the wall, but based on my past and current experienced of what I know about being 'shredded' - it is something you SHOULD NOT MAINTAIN, its only ideal if you have a competition or you want to take some photos or videos and then you must put weight back on soon as possible. It leaves you grumpy, agitated, weak, fatigued. Now he always seems happy when I bump into him or hang out, but based on what I know, your testosterone is much lower when you are shredded (no problem if thin), but maybe he had a short temper due to lack of carbs/calories..
Even all the beautiful women I used to know, back when I was younger and went partying.. sometimes the easy ones, would sometimes 'pull' what they called "a hunk", they often would only kiss, but the odd time they did have a ONS/short-term fling, when I got introduced to the guy (since I also worked with them), the girls were so happy to 'show them off' and flirt.. but they only used to last around 2 weeks to 6 weeks at most.. believe this, the same women I am referring to ended up settling down and starting a family with much uglier, plainer guys who were borderline obese. Why is that? because they were body conscious, insecure, tired of their mood swings?
I came to the conclusion its because in their eyes they felt more secure (did not have to over-think, recreate problems that actually do not exist, i.e. cheating when she is not with him, they make them feel less guilty in every way, whether its gym/getting/maintaining/staying in shape/having lazy days/snacking/eating/drinking, they could relate to the "dad bod" to their own fathers and all in all, felt like one was a mysterious-fetish that they were told was perfection that 'might be most likely to cheat at anytime' through the books that they read or adult rated movies and the other was perfect to them in every-day situations).
Another ripped friend I had since I was a kid (longest friendship I ever had), he ended up working away at sea for 1-3 months on oil rigs/ships and he found out when he was stuck in the middle of the sea that his girlfriend who he was madly in love with was cheating on him with HIS BEST FRIEND. He could not even get back to shore/home to see her/them, he had to wait another 2 months stuck at sea (due to helicopter/boat/contract/weather conditions)
No biases, just my observation and reflections based on every experiences.
Six-pack abs feels nice to achieve, but being on-edge all the time because I'm low body fat is rough in my experience. I'm just kind of stressed out all the time when I'm shredded, I get a little antisocial honestly
Face card and height is the most important
I got absolutely no game, like zero, yet my ex constantly suspected me of cheating just because i'm good looking, tall and got a sixpack. She could have easily noticed how awkward i am, heavily socially anxious even.. but she didn't. Life can be like that, you gotta play your cards
The intimidation imho is a factor. It is mostly based on standards. A lot of women know that they are lazy(most really). They don't want a guy with standards that are beyond what they are capable of and they don't want a guy that they perceive is difficult to keep up with and stay with. But those over simiplfied pick a photo tests are not meaningful. What they needed was a series of variations for a part 2 - the ones in between the lean jacked one and the dad bod.
Never go off of what women say, go off of what they lust over. That'll tell you everything.
Exactly! They don’t want to come off as being shallow that’s why they say things like the dad bod. Just look at the type of guys on romance novels and that’ll tell you all you need to know.
Problem with Graham's argument is that you don't need to spend 5x days in the gym to stay jacked. It takes a while to get jacked, but not STAY jacked. You can stay jacked with minimal effort once you've built the muscle and have the muscle memory. Guys can spend the teens and early twenties getting jacked and they'll just be jacked for life with a small amount of exercise
Daddy needs to eat 😂
The host looks like he could be related to Tom cruise via a 4th degree separation
Not hard to guess who the alpha is in the group 😂
0:47 we don't talk negatively about JB.
This guys said drinking Dr Pepper is fine, how do you trust him after saying those words 😂
He just specifically approves Dr. Pepper? All of other sodas are unhealthy, but Dr. Pepper is harmless? That’s oddly specific advice.
@ maybe he’s sponsored or something idk 😂
Dr Pepper = flabbyness
I have a dad bod and no women is controlling me brother
Be a man , make them laugh, and protect them
Really when did women start telling the truth. They also say they want guys with feelings and nice guys and smart guys all bullshit
As a woman, I like my man fit, but I don't want him to have the stress that comes with being 6 to 8 percent lean. I like more of a balanced approach to life.
Nobody is talking about stress. Simple question - who do you pick? Fit or fat
Dude has his feet up on the table with drinks. What a rude disgusting guy.
lol relax
Girls prioritize 6 figures over 6 pack. Oh and each comma in your income adds an extra inch to height and….length
I think women just like men of all different kinds. Anyone who has known one woman who has dated different people for 15 years knows they don’t always date the exact same body type at all
Lean and muscular best
Guys talking about what girls want..makes sense
I 100% thought wife liked the pudge to keep me home and not getting extra attention. Talking to a few moms at kids school. All we like our man with a little belly.
Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.
No need to watch more than 40 seconds of video
The dad bod is cope. Getting jacked got me more women than any other glow up I’ve done. That includes getting my money up, skin care routines, fashion etc. muscles blew everything else out of the water. Don’t listen to the lies, getting jacked will change your life.
Dad bod builds comfort. Look at men that become fathers, their estrogen levels increase and they add on more fat. Gives the woman the feeling that he wont leave her. Its evolution.
Evolution?? Evolution for men and women like any organism is to keep procreating. Especially men. That man who you describe is unnatural and would die out in natural selection.
Who wants to be around anything that's too perfect?
A perfectionist
Dude in black t is correct idk what the heck the other guys re thinking.
WhateVer😂
I dont care what women likeS or not
Staying fit and healthy from within and outside is not a wish but necessary for your own good
they pick average for relationships when they are insecure. They are inherently insecure when you are the shit
When I got fat my ex got fat too. She would be baking cookies at 11pm and I’m crushing them. Lol Interesting when I lost weight she called me skinny, buuuuut amazingly she started losing weight herself unprovoked. Hmmmm My current GF did the same thing and now that I’m more fit, she’s says she’s gonna lose 10lbs. Hmmmm Unprovoked guys. I’m just saying. 😂
Who here is willing to admit that most guys work out to reach a certain physique just so other guys leave them be and not fuck around with them?
Why Dr. Mike sweating like that though
Fellas, focus on God and allow God to take you on a journey of who he is calling you to be. Study Gods word everyday EVERYDAY. Let his love fill you up and overflow from your heart, and love people the way he loves you, and keep your eyes fixated on him. Everything else will fall into place.
Women don’t know what ‘dad bods really are’. They don’t mean their father, they mean a lightweight powerlifter. Strong but not super lean and ripped
Not a power lifter. That’s just your fantasy. You don’t know what women value. And neither are these guys
I will tell you my experience, fit girls like fit men, if you are looking for an average to a mediocre girl of course you can have average looking body
"I'm not red-pilled!" Lmao imagine being defensive of living in reality, what a loser 😂
How about just show us their sexual partners and let that end the debate
that nterviewer says hes not redpilled and proud of it? Then excusing himself for truths abuot women he says. He s the guy no boy should take as an example.
😂 OMG guys
Seriously, it's 2025 and I see you talking hierarchy? 1:26 was the moment i lost my composure😅
It's basics like taking care of yourself, being nice and dressing like a sane person that work, everything else is nonsensical generalization
You can out-hierarchy every dude on the planet if you're funny. If she's into that. Every man can take your girl away from you with a good beard. If she's into that. You NEVER go far with categories AND ESPECIALLY if you're TALKING about categories. Individuals. Each of them. Each of us. Get that into your head. Jesus
Beard is valuable only if you are a caveman. And your women is a cave-woman who smells like one 😂
Women’s decisions and women’s words are two different things. Look at who they are dating, not who they say they would date. Either way i dont give a shit. I will be jacked, and that is that
Most dad bod guys I know are simps and think they are alphas. Im an alpha 54, 6.1 work out eat right date younger women in 30s and 40s.
In my experience most of these guys are weak in stature and underhanded or fake in character. Women smell it on them a mile. These men hardly make eye contact in the gym and generally have the scared cat look 😂 from Australia
no alpha calls themselves an alpha
When did you know you were alpha?
All i know is there ain't no dad bod strippers and if there are theyre bot making as much lmfao
Solid utility backing ADX’s potential.
He's full of it. It means he can weather a famine.
Who in the world are these two goobers and why am I still watching after 2 minutes…!??
Because they’ve got the goods.
Woman dont like the dad bod they just lie when asked lol if they have a chance with mr 6 pack they take it...
Women don't like muscular guys for relationships because alot of them are lazy & that sets a high standard they don't want to match. A dad bod is that nice balance between flab & fit, so you can take good pictures but the guy's physique doesn't make them feel bad about their shape. A dad bod guy is perceived as more nurturing for raising a family & it keeps attention on the woman, b/c they can't stand when a guy gets more attention than they do.
I got the most women for flings when I had that Brad Pitt Fight Club look but when I got over 215lbs I started to become "too big" now I'm about 255lbs & they don't even look at me anymore. Lots of compliments from other gym bros tho.
This is horse manure. Pure narcissist tactic to pass off blame on others for not being a attractive hard working training human being. Strong men are more capable, harder to kill, and overall more useful in the world. Work ethic parallels training ethics. Keep being a flabby pansy. Ill be the hard working, self defense trained, battle hardened soldier that homeschools his children and is an entrepreneur running multiple businesses and teaching financial literacy. Lazy... Pfft.
Zero topless photos= zero matches.
Multiple topless photos = multiple matches.
Proablem is all the women are broken.
If you want to know what women really think about "six pack abs" then it would make more sense to have biological woman on the podcast and ask them. No disrespect to the Dr. but if you want a woman's perspective then ask real women. Same thing for men too.
Dr Mike even said it... Stated vs Revealed preferences. You don't ask women what they prefer as they will tell you what they think they should say. Observe what their behavior shows that they prefer.
@@tonkashouseExactly, I watch what women do not what they say
women seem to always avoid saying they like a guy because he is attractive even if its clear they do because of it. So not really a good idea as you think.
These guys are so fruity
They like it because it's unique. Maybe 1 in 200 million men in the world has a 6 pack? Beauty is unique.. Good luck with buying those genetics..
C'mon man, I have a 6-pack and it's not that rare 1 in 200 million, god damn. Just eat good food, train and you will be ok.
You think there's only 15 lean guys in the world?
lol you are delusional. You think there are only 2 guys with a six pack in the USA?
A 10 is a 10. You can be ugly and jacked and still be a 4