THIS. My family pushed me to do commissions as a way to make extra money. They turned my passion into a "job". Over the years it has withered away until I finally broke. Now I stare at a blank canvas for nearly an hour before just closing the program. I never have ideas of what to draw for myself anymore, I ended up closing my commissions because I could no longer meet deadlines because I took too long to complete the work because I hated working on it. I want to get back into art, to improve so I can get more commission and get more people to notice me. But at the same time, I don't.
@@Crazy_Sue yeah, friend of mine has always expressed how annoying it is that their family keeps pushing them to try and make money off of their passion for art. A lot of folks out there just don’t understand that not everything in your life has to be inherently attached to your bank account
on studying: many artists find more success diving into a projects and study something as questions arise. This way you aren't burnt out from endlessly studying and you apply the new knowledge immediately!
I learned more by trying something I knew I could do 70% of and had to learn something specific. I've built upon each thing I've learned off each project. My first dungeon was just White (floor) grey (walls) black (ceiling/non-transversable) I then worked my way up with repeating textures to learn how to make Zelda style dungeons. I moved up to painting more natural features and now can paint relatively quickly. My bane now? Architecture. So I now try to build something small that's architectural into my works to practice that as I struggle with 'built' features. You just keep pushing the envelope instead of dive in super deep and drown.
The negative association part really got me there. Recently, it feels like doing art has become a chore, especially when I’m months into a final major project and that I don’t have a structure or steps to follow daily. Each time I draw, I just either keep doing studies or I keep thinking about the project. I just couldn’t have fun creatively. Ironically, I’ve been instead editing videos as a creative escape to drawing, I felt better doing it and I didn’t know why. Eventually after a few weeks, I didn’t look forward to drawing anymore and I hated that. Today, I severely questioned my career choice and beloved hobby. So really, thank you for sharing this. It helped me realize what I’m feeling and I’m actually gonna get up to try and have fun drawing
I needed this 2 years ago. I got into drawing because it seemed fun and I wanted to create art, but it quickly devolved into taking it too seriously, doing too much study, and having almost no fun. I wasn't drawing for the passion of drawing, or just for fun/creativity, I was drawing with the sole goal of getting good, and only when I get good I could enjoy myself and be creative. It was such a toxic mindset and made art so stressful. I barely made any progress over months because I wasn't passionate about it.
....And then... And then?! Don't leave us hanging, tell me you rekindled the fun and found the passion again because I need to know that it can come back.
I have a lot of stories i want to tell, and i want to improve so the my art can accurately represent what I'm seeing in my head. I want to make something of my daydreams.
Exactly how I feel too !! I feel like these ideas are desperate to be free, to be put on a paper, I want to give life to them. But I keep them locked inside me because ''I'm not good enough for it yet'' and then I'm surprised when I start to lose this, this unique perspective about the world, the feeling of passion. I must free myself of this expectation ''to be goo enough''
I've been drawing / painting now for... gods 50 years. I can't count the number of people I've seen just... stop. Lose their passion. Honestly I can't say how I've kept mine for so long but I still love it. Likes, no likes, don't care, don't chase the algorithm, just have fun!
Dang i just started a month ago never knew it was that serious im not expecting much just seeing what works while sprinkling some FAAFO in while focusing on college work. How I'm still out here drawing is pretty surprising since i tend to set high standards on things i do
I needed this. I've been depressed and been thinking about quitting art for good because I can't make any artwork that I can consider "great" in my eyes. I end up comparing my old works and telling myself how I downgraded so much over a year. In addition to that, I put so much pressure on myself by seeing how much my peers are improving in a short amount of time. I'm not mad at them, I'm mad at myself for not being able to catch up and with the rise of a.i. and artist getting layed off by big industries like riot, I sometimes think what the point. Art is all I have, I love making art but it's just so difficult. But I'll keep trying and I won't stop. Thank you, Marc.
I know it's difficult but please don't give up! Do what you can, respect and don't be cruel to yourself. Your effort will be rewarded! Even if I don't know you, I believe in your potential! :)
Man, I'm currently in this situation too. Not only do I compare my latest drawings with my older ones, but I also keep comparing them to my peers', and it's depressing because mine look so trashy. My posts also never perform well. I wanna quit so bad, but then I'll lose the only skill I have then I'm gonna be even more useless as a human being
I feel you, i got too sick of feeling so stressed out by how far behind I feel after studying art for so long, so I ended up quitting for two years. Now I feel im so behind everyone my age so what’s the point in starting again
Why don't you guys experiment with a different medium of art instead of just doing your primary art style. You can use what you already know to help you learning. If you draw, you could paint, if you paint you could sculpt, if you sculpt you could spray paint. Idk you get the idea, art is such a broad topic. Maybe take some classes to help you get started
the negative associations have become so bad for me. i completely trained my brain to unleash every negative feeling i have in my body while i am drawing, without realizing it. i cannot study, i cannot doodle, i cannot simply draw because i immediately feel angry and frustrated. it felt so good to have these few minutes of marc talking about it. I'll try and re-wire my brain into associating art with positive feelings again. i hope it'll work and it's not too late. i miss drawing from my heart so much and i want nothing more then improving but it's tough. it is so tough.
3:05 “doing pure studies is not something I do, personally” - Saying that as a Teacher is the biggest inspirational moment for every aspiring artist 💙 - Hearing that a professional art teacher doesn’t overwhelm themselves with studies and “boring” stuff, is amazingly inspirational At least to me-
I read a lot of comments talking about how drawing is no longer fun... In my case, I still love drawing, art is my passion, my life! I enjoy every stage of the drawing, even the most complicated ones. I hope you all can return to having art as something enjoyable again!
7:15 - The problem here, for me is that it becomes extremely hard to avoid that, every time i have to draw a torso; it comes out wrong, which leads to increased frustration, but if I avoid doing it, then it won't improve, but each time the hand won't play along or a finger comes out wrong in inking it just leads to more frustration, meaning you are.forced into a negative loop of bad experiences, but not engaging in the loop mean dropping art entirely, so its impossible to escape it, even after trying every effing method out there!
Small advice for the "avoid negative associations with drawing"-point It can really improve your experience of drawing and also "getting into" working on something, if you have a nice workspace! Get some nice posters from your favorite artist (or anime, movies, Comics, ANYTHING) that inspire you! Maybe get yourself a some small items that can unconciously make you happy and set you in a good mood (Examples from my desk include: A snowglobe, Lego-Pikachu, corkboard with silly doodles, figures [characters and animals], a pokemon plushie as support buddy). You can apply this logic to your digital workspace as well by taking some time to setup your PC, tablet (whatever you're working with) the way you like it! Personalize it by chosing a nice wallpaper, maybe change some other settings to make your workspace reflect and support you! If you use the same PC for art and other work, you can set an unconcious trigger for your mind by creating a profile for work and one for art/personal use and differenciating them by their wallpaper (and other visual triggers! Visual and auditive triggers are proven to have the greatest impact on your concious and unconcious mind. By differenciating the visuals and maybe listening to a special kind of music, LoFi in my case, you will have an easier time to start drawing). This does not only apply to art (recommending "atomic habits" if you're interested in learning more about these small butterfly-effect-changes)! But having a workspace that makes you happy the second you sit down is something that will rewire your unconsciousness to associate fun, happiness and other passions with your art! It will lead to a healthier, more motivated and more inspired experience in the long run! (Be mindful to not stuff too many things onto your desk; your items shouldn't be distracting or restricting your movements; and be mindful of what you're putting there. Decorate your space with the small things that YOU like and that make YOU happy, even if you don't quite know why they make you feel this way.) Edit: I'm working in homeoffice almost all year long and it does a lot for your mental health as well, trust me!
20yo, stopped drawing and started sculpting in blender, but i lost all the passion, there's no creativity... im trying to go back to this "creative path" and to drawing
It's been years since I've mentioned what happened to me lmao, but listen: I failed to enter art school and my family convinced me to study a "real" career. I graduated with very good grades, and I HATED it. Every year it was harder to convince myself it was what I'd "wanted" to do, until I realized later it was a mixture of family pressure and my own fear of failing at it again. I'm 28 now, I moved out, I got a job - and I'm going to apply for art school again. I shouldn't have listened to my brain over my heart in this one thing. DO prioritize your passion if it is what truly makes you happy, as hard as the industry is right now!
Gonna take the opposite position here and say that you need balance between your heart and your brain. I've seen so many people absolutely RUIN themselves (their health and their finances) at a chance to do art professionally, because it's their "passion". In my opinion, no professional job (art included) is worth your health, wealth, or happiness. To give you context, I am now in my mid-30s, and originally started my art journey in caricature at a major theme park in my late teens(I admittedly wasn't very good), and am now gainfully employed in the IT space. How you develop as an artist really has no timetable, and you cannot accurately time or predict your progress in any meaningful way; you could be struggling with a problem for months on end until you come across a bit of information or make a discovery and very suddenly, your quality improves exponentially. And I hate that no one really talked about this when I was going through school: the teachers are there to give you the essentials and provide feedback. Your struggle, however. is yours alone. After a decade and a half of real substantial drawing (and hopefully many more to come), I figure that you may as well just have fun with it; you're in it for the long haul anyway. You don't win a triathlon by sprinting the whole way. Slow it down, do some cool shit! Discover yourself! Just make sure you're not killing yourself or jeopardizing your future to do it. EDIT: Keep in mind, I'm not saying "don't go to art school". If you have the money and the time, ABSOLUTELY do it, if at least only to try it.
@@CFlandre My family wanted me to go to nursing school and i am doing it despite wanted to do art for a living I am hoping i can make my years at nursing school worth it after and i can do what i want in art after i graduate 🥲
I saw so many people who started learning at the same time or later than me make much better art than me that my whole point of art changed to just improvement "I WANT TO IMPROVE" and during that and a lot of studies... my art just got worse n worse, slowly losing consistency as well I will try to draw something for fun today just to reignite my feelings for art again
Yeah drawing has become a chore to me, it's a drag now, and I'm trying to regain the fun I had with drawing, but I'm having a hard time with it cause of my perfectionism and mild depression
Hey due I hope you didn't quit on your passion it's life , what ever you do if you start doing it daily it becomes burden , and on top of that when you are following your passion and have Goals set to it,I would just say get " crazily obsessed with arts " like it's your oxygen you think about it make it your lifetime regime and if you fail never get depressed try again and again and again until you succeed , it's never easy for anything, the things that person is saying is TRUE but I would say I have started to like arts as passion , I do it daily like my life depends on it , I think about it only and to progress work smartly also , like if anything goes wrong you have second plan, like I am in fine arts batchelors, I have lectures which are great but I still do Drawing for 2 hours everyday and even if I feel like I am not progressing I have whole class to discuss, I have a supporting parents and one of the most coolest professors , just in case if you are doing arts alone find a company , if you will do it alone you are going to only find regret , pressure and competition unhealthy, so I will suggest invest in your passion either find a degree or diploma or anything online or just start teaching or maybe make it a youtube channel , invest your time and money , even if you can't invest money just start to go outside meet with different people hang out your artwork in libraries or maybe just find a circle you will find fun in that hustle , only if you are motivated enough nothing is bad , even I say all time I hate this that but I never do it's just to tell me that I am doing some hardworking but inside I am enjoying everybit of it
Currently going through this as well, except with adhd thrown into the mix. There are a lot of ideas I'm excited to do at first but then once I'm actually drawing them it feels so draining and not worth finishing. I long for being able to draw frequently and enjoy it again so that I can actually see my ideas and be proud instead of them being stuck in my head...
@@swiss6616It would be nice to be able to just be able to *will* your depression away but that isn’t how the human brain works. I’m glad you are happy and fulfilled though.
Motivation is always fleeting, I have a real hard time learning things and unless I grasp something right away my brain just slides off and any further attempts are failed. All I can do is stick with just showing up and doing something every day, I don't know where to go other than keep the wheels spinning because this car is all I've got left, I don't expect to go pro anytime soon but it needs to happen eventually, every day gets a little more demanding and the people around me expect me to do SOMETHING, its toxic to my will to keep going but hey, if anything I'm stubborn so here's to the rest of my life to trying and not giving up.
I've been struggling with my art for many years. When i think I lost my passion, I find myself gravitating back to it. The negative associations hit hard because I got a lot of emotional baggage and resentment because of the decisions I made and the people I spent time with. I've been trying to rekindle that passion because I still like to create stories and characters. I just need to let go of my own baggage and just be me. I got a sketchbook at work since I have some downtime and it's been kinda helping. Thanks for these videos, Marc!
6:42 i wish i saw this video sooner, what you said here is absolutely true. I stopped drawing completely for half a year bc I got frustrated and quit and refused to go back bc I remember the negativity associated with drawing. Literally today I got back into drawing and it was fun but I feel I missed out on too much for skipping 6 months. Like, I would look at amazing art during those 6 months and feel like attempting what they do and even feel a bit inspired to draw, but I simply never did bc of how frustrated I once was. It really halted my progress. I appreciate your tip here about ending it on a good note. This is an old video but if this comment ever reaches you, thank you
As a person who been starting to learn how to draw, I have did most of these things and it really does kill someone's passion. Now I starting to gain the same motivation that I had when I started. Always a helpful video when Marc posts it.
Walking out frustrated is a real one. I'm in the process of using background music/shows I like to recover it little by little. I don't dread sitting at the desk anymore.
Honestly, it's been so hard on me since I lost my passion, and thing is that I lost it from personal experiences in day to day life that took out all the happiness and creativity in me, not the way I looked at my art. People used to know me for my artistic skill and it just feels like I became a nobody without that drive. I wish I could go back to drawing so bad, but whenever I try, I just panic and close everything, now I don't even have my art to escape to anymore :'D
I take my art very seriously and I have never improved more in the last two years than in almost 13 years. I simply stopped caring about social media and stuff and just doing it for myself, for fun. Completely changes the way I see art today. People like Marc really helped me in that process and I kept discovering so many great artists that way, so thank you so much. ❤
I got your art school program for christmas but i'm currently not working on it at all after doing it for about a week and a half. School has just been very stressful lately, havig to write a scientific essay, studying for important exams, etc. and i've kind of turned doing the daily practices and watching the videos into a chore in my brain. i'm currently just allowing myself to take a break from it and just do whatever i want. been' learning the muscle anatomy of arms for the past, like, two weeks which has actually been really fun. i'll try to get back into the program during the upcoming winter holidays i have, but might not stick to the program full force in the beginning. the first lessons have all already been stuff i know so i've been getting bored quickly and got demotivated because i didn't really find any good refrences for gesture drawing. i'm gonna try to allow myself to learn my own stuff WHILE losely following the programme, as long as i feel i don't REALLY need or care for the content it offers. i still think it's a great programme, i'm just having some trouble getting into it.
What bums me out most when it comes to drawing is not knowing how certain things are done by other artist relating to the drawing program. Anatomy can be learnt, perspective can be learnt. But how does this or that artist draw the lineart lines this way? Am I using the wrong pen? Maybe the good looking pens I can't use because of the drawing program I use? What about this kind of colour and shading? Did they use a tool or specific pen again? Maybe a setting or a blur? So many things that I feel like I will never understand just because I didn't see a certain setting or don't have the right pen. I'm also worried about not being able to draw in the style that I want to draw in. It makes me want to give up knowing my artstyle doesn't look like the artstyle that I want it to look like.
I get wanting to use the right brushes and programs but it shouldn't discourage you from making what you want. And I'm sure a lot of good artists experiment with what they got and just found something that worked for them. I'd say explore your options and see what you vibe with. Art is all about exploring you and your potential. It'll take a few tries but as long as you're patient with yourself, you got this!
Yeah, it is very important to cherish the small victories. Over time, I became more and more passionate about drawing, but that wasn´t always the case. My first drawings were so bad that even my dad rejected a manga I wanted to gift him lmao. And also, he being more realistic but with more touch, told me many times I should be getting my stuff together and get more money. Right now, more skilled, taking classes and making SOME money, my dad is now very positive with me, and that also made me love drawing more. In a perfect world you shoudn´t care what people say, and I now know the things he said were to push me to improve, but it really did help me like art more.
I knew about negative associations, but never realized how often I do that in my practice sessions, I have to improve on that part, thanks :D I always liked your illustrations but, this one, it feels different, something changed but I'm not skilled enough (yet) to point what. It's awesome!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:43 *🎯 Setting unreasonable goals, like strict time limits for skill improvement, can lead to stress and kill your passion for art.* 02:36 *📚 Over-studying without breaks or enjoyment can drain your passion for art; aim for shorter, enjoyable study sessions mixed with personal art to keep motivation high.* 04:27 *🎨 Studying art without a structured approach can waste time and hinder progress; find a good program or teacher to guide your learning effectively.* 06:44 *🚫 Avoid associating negative emotions with art by managing frustration and avoiding comparisons; maintain a positive mindset to preserve your passion.* 08:51 *👀 Observation is a crucial skill for artists; improving your ability to observe details enhances your art and fuels your passion.*
Hi Mark I've watched your videos for over 4 years now and I can't help but thank you for all the educational content that you make. Now I'm attending an art program in my local university and I watch your videos to supplement the lectures I get in school (in most cases marcs videos are more helpful haha). Hope you keep on making videos and I hope to see more in the future. Cheers 🎉
Never did anything apart from studying in the last two years XD. I dont really know why but I can't bring myself to draw for "fun"; I instinctively prioritise learning.
I'm a new artist but a relatively experienced guitarist and violinist, and I spend 20-30 minutes noodling around and just enjoying the sound of the instrument before I practice basically every time I pick it up That's definitely the reason I'm still playing, if I didn't do that I'd have given both up years ago
@@aaaaaa-ts3rw fellow musician I see XD. I'm not very good but I learned the basics of guitar, bass, drums and piano at school (I'm persuing a "degree" in music production). I'd love to learn how to play the violon and the luth (though I guess I'll begin with the luth considering I have at least of expérience with the guitar 😅).
Lute will be pretty easy I bet, I can fake my way on a bass, mandolin, and uke without any issues. Violin has a pretty rough learning curve I won't lie, but if you've got music in you you can do whatever ^_^ we just gotta keep enjoying what we're doing, who cares how good we are @@shard5159
This is very important, and I'm still working on undoing the negative associations after a couple of years of grinding too hard with unrealistic expectations and having negative work experiences Important advice, find the fun and hold on to it! Thanks Marc!
I recently purchased Marc’s art school to improve and I am starting to see it. The difficult part is balancing practice vs your own passion. I agree that you must tweak your practice so it’s always in line with something you care about. That’s when you produce your greatest work as well so it’s a win-win
needed this video! I was only questioning my love for art a few days ago and this video came at the perfect time. Art has been my passion for as long as i could remember but ive been so burnt-out of it that its started feeling like a chore, or a race i cannot win against my peers in (im in school for 2d animation). This video will help me rekindle my passion for art, thank you!
as respectfully as i can say it, its always super refreshing to see your linework up close and see that its loose and almost sketchy, i feel like im always tied down by making my line art water tight and as clean as possible which can take up a significant amount of time
For me the best way to destroy my passion fort art and drawing was to go at an art school, paying a lot of money for some little advices you can have for free on internet. They wanted us to do too much work without having the basics. Learning the basics is the key and i think time must not matter when you learn them, everyone is different and you need to find the best compromise between learning and not being overwhelm. When you have too much work to doo in different kind of domain (animation 2D, 3D, animation 3D, english/spanish, etc) you can't focus on one thing, you can't have too much time for basics who are the key. You will spent your time working fast because "deadine is very important" it's a nonsence to impose "deadline" to people who don't even have solid basics to enjoy what they are doing. You just get crushed by time, your work suck, your mind is fucked and to learn its important to have alot of awarness on what you are doing. So yeah take your time and think about what you can improve a bit after each session, each week, each month. It take time, practice but i think if do it well you will not feel so much pain at the point you associate the fact of drawing at "A PAINFULL THING". Today i draw again but he took me 5+ year to found fun again at drawing, what a fucking lost...
This came at the right time 😭😭😭😭😭😭 I've been hitting wall to wall recently and I've felt like I could never improve. My heads look wrong, my gesture drawings barely resemble a human, and my god, my line confidence is just blegh I keep thinking that the moment I learn a new skill I should be able to do it that instant but I need to remember I need to have both the knowledge and the skill, it's something I need to do repetitively esp since I'm still around the beginning. I almost lost the fun in drawing so ty for this video
I remember making the mistake of focusing only on getting better without a specific goal. I always told myself that I wasn’t good enough. This lead to me to stop drawing pictures and only doing anatomy studies (my weakness at that time). Whenever I had time I sat down and drew human mannequins. And because I am a perfectionist I never made any progress. I was never happy with my results. One day I was about to continue my studies. I looked at them. But before I could begin drawing I emotionally felt something tearing apart and even a bit of panic? And that was the moment I stopped my studies and just wanted to have something in front of me, that I can be proud of. I was driven by the stress that had built up inside me these past weeks. But this time I resisted the urge to make every single line perfectly. „Perfectionism is the enemy of progress.“ When I finished I looked at my drawing. I felt something like breaking free from chains. The pressure was gone. I will never forget, how happy I felt in that moment.
@@infiniteraide1642 I rushed myself a bit and tried to ignore lines I didn’t consider as perfectly straight. I tried to just move on and focus on finishing it. Hope that helps!
Marc, you give GREAT advice. Somewhat related, my father has a PhD and has always said that people should not treat college as a vocational experience. Too many people view higher education as some conveyor belt where they go to school, get a degree and get a job. He believes that people should go to college to learn and to improve themselves intellectually. Anyway, just like with art, the result shouldn't be the only thing an artist cares about. Its the process and journey is what we should cherish. And it shouldn't have to be arduous or painful. I'm also not really a fan of rigid, old school studies. I think you make a great point about how you can learn plenty of skills and fundamentals while drawing what you enjoy. One doesn't have to draw a bunch of cubes and circles to learn about perspective and line weight. They don't necessarily need to attend a formal figure drawing class in order to understand things like body proportions and effects like foreshortening. These things can be picked up in all sorts of ways. And your analogy regarding working out is 100% spot on. That's exactly how I explain art to my non-artist friends. It does require a lot of dedication and practice. But like working out, art also has its warm ups, cool downs and breaks. You don't want to burn yourself out physically, mentally or creatively. One shouldn't feel like they have to be doing art all the time. Balance, moderation and knowing when to stop are lessons some artists, even pros, forget.
Thanks for the warnings, Marc. I’m twenty months into learning to draw and need work now. The pressure has been a bit demoralizing and now I’m going to reset, thank you!
I am absolutely INSPIRED for the first time in... Years. I started drawing as a kid because it was fun, and I did it for fun years after that. I still do it for fun but I also want to make money. It has been feeling like a chore because I feel like I can't put my imagination onto the page. But your words have changed my perspective on some things. Thank you from the bottom of my heart ^^
I was told both in college and in an art community I was banned from that studying for hours is the only way to ever improve. I was literally told that unless my anatomy and construction were perfect, I should not be drawing my own characters or comics. I never knew I could do both. I'm trying desperately now, for some reason, to get better via your draw better in 30 days.
When I start to draw as a kid, I find it fun and wonderful, because it cheering me up and let my fantasies became true like a cute monsters or animals or characters But after grew up, having a depression, I cant draw so cheerful as I was a kid. You looking to your own art and thinking how bad it is, when other artists became more and more good and enjoy every work. You know that a lot of study needed, but don't have a mental or physical strength for it while working for non-art profession or half of it. Thanks for the video, I will take this tips to make my passion burn again inside.
This is something ive struggled with for years, and almost made me quit art altogether, several times. I wish I had heard these tips years ago, but I'm still so glad to have heard them now!! Thank you
Man im currently in that state of "getting so frustrated that i stopped drawing" and i thought it was just because of me being bad at art, definitely proud that i stumbled upon this video because i'll try to improve the way i aproach art this year.
man, I felt the "studying the wrong way" hard. 9 years into this shit and only less than 2 years ago I only just started to feel like I began learning how to learn in the first place...
Recently, I've found a small trick that helps me leave a practice session on a positive note. After doing a handful of sketches in pencil, if there's one sketch that stands out positively, I take a pen and ink it. Now, It's more fun to grab my stack of papers and flip through it.
I studied art too much and being perfectionistic made it worse, by repeating the same thing over and over and forgot my goal. Yeah i burned out majorly and forgetting so many things. I still struggle even after getting past burnout and honestly it's not as fun and sparkly as before HOWEVER I know that my love for art is still there, somewhere hidden deep inside, injured and just needs a bit of time and love, but you can rekindle or rediscover it. Just dont give up hope and have compassion towards yourself and your lil art baby like hide and seek, your art baby is just very good at hiding. Love to all who struggle with art and never give up
I usually get so bummed out by people’s skill. But recently instead of telling myself. “Wow, they’re so much better than me” to : “I wonder how they drew like that!” That’s helped my mindset a little. Also deleting instagram really helped 😂 I am a hobbiest but I would love to be a famous comic book artist and story teller could be fun!
Dude… you read my mind… just the video I needed to watch. Without realizing it I was starting to get tired of gesture drawing due to long daily sessions… thanks for the advice! These videos are a great complement to your course 👍
I've been into digital painting lately. Trying some different fruits and want to do some animals. It seems to help when I get to practicing gesture drawing a bit too much. Definitely breaks up practicing the same thing over and over and seeing minimal progress. Then when I go back to gesture/figure drawing I can more readily see the results. Great video this week.
Ok i take a moment to address the fact your weekly illustration is actually DARN HYPNOTIC. You never botch the art, it's more a matter of taste on my end, but this time it gets a fat like and a comment on its own. You rock.
Lately I have seen my mindset deteriorate and negative associations have become more common. I have spend countless hours practicing and drawing for fun, but when I publish my artworks, hardly anyone seems to like them. Even worse, my beginner artworks which were on a way lower skill level were way more popular. It is really frustrating. I think I needed this video. I'll try out your tip on #4, doing something easy when I am unhappy about an artwork
I'd never manage to get myself doing a study but that would mean being stuck in the same level forever. So what I do is combine a full art project and a study of some sort. That project will inevitably involve something I am not good at so I try focusing on that and experimenting. This seems to be working well so far
I still feel happy even when I make crappy art, I just kind of laugh at it! I have never lost my passion for it, and I think it's due to me not seeing the value of my art as a reflection of me. That way, managing art goals is a walk in the park. Do not make art or “being an artist” your identity, just be a person that enjoys making art.
I draw things that i like, i barely donstudies but i turn each piece into a study where i have goals lile making more compelling poses or better rendering etc.
Wow! That has to be the most extraordinary and unique pose I have witnessed in a space setting. Excellent job on the overall execution of this artwork, which effectively conveys its ✨meaningful message✨ I have great respect for your talent. This art is truly beautiful.
I remember having so much fun learning and drawing all day, since I got on the world of commissions in 2020-2021, slowly I just become to lose interest in drawing bcause it was starting to be an obligation for the money, I always remember been doing fanarts, I love that, but once I started on paid works, I didn't do a single fanart or something that I like till this day, so I'm still on that "phase" of trying to recover that love that I had on making illustrations
what a nice video.. when I got serious abt art 10 yrs ago, I was often discouraged due to vids & teachers saying that there were certain "right" and "wrong" ways to do [start] things.. constantly shaming, rather than giving constructive criticism. while there are good and preferred things considering properties/structure, anatomy, etc.. beginner artists with new passion shouldn't be told this!! they should be given help-meaning everything this video went over! like how to start their journey in studying art in a way that's fun, suitable to you, and tips on how to pace oneself, and so on! what got me going, was remembering that I'm doing this for me. for fun, and for everything else. I always try to keep myself encouraged and going! I love art.. 💗
Man, watching these timelapses is the most satisfying thing ever. It makes me so inspired to try and draw again, and this video was great for me since I sometimes tell myself negative things about my art!! Thanks teach 🎉
Thank you very much for your videos, Marc Brunet. I have been recovering from a horrible art burnout I suffered last year because I ended up doing practically half of the things mentioned in this episode (Studying but no fun, relating negative feelings to art, etc.) I've been doing my best to doodle just for fun now and your words of wisdom are a big help!
Drawing became such a task for me recently. I usually did draw a lot for online currency, I never finished the commissions on time or even at all sometimes because my commisioners gave me such boring ideas that I never wanted to do them. I gave up on doing commisions since I just hated it. Also because of my art teacher not liking my character design drawings which is what I like doing the most. I usually hated art class whenever we'd get a project because my teacher barely gave me any freedom in it. She even said one of my drawings that I liked was a waste of my talent.
I've been drawing consistently for the past year every day and I've come to learn that I enjoy it but it's definitely not my passion. One of the biggest reasons I do it is cause it's the only thing I'm kind of good at. But it has definitely helped me understand myself a lot. Even if I don't end up becoming a full time artist or animator I'll never stop drawing completely.
yo marc, I feel like your hairflow in this video share the same vibe like the japanese illustrator "Rolua". Really appreciate it if you do art studies on more Japanese illustrators cuz their methods are just too godly
I'm definitely seeing the influence of modern anime-style art and internet artists on your work compared to even just a few years ago, when your work was still lingering more heavily on game design work. It's really cool to see how a variety of influences can evolve a person's style and range of output over time!
Thank you for this video these are actually so helpful and it has inspired to try to do your course again. I bought it last year after graduating college with the mindset of “I need to finish this course in a couple months so I can get a job” and it completely killed my motivation and I stopped doing it even though I was learning from it. I think I will set the more realistic goal of watching the lessons through this year and applying them and practicing them in shorter intervals as this video suggests. Ty again for these videos! I’ve been watching your channel since I started to learn how to draw as a passion over a decade ago ❤
i think instead of trying to please others with your art its better to do it for yourself. years ago i gave up quick because i wanted to get likes and followers and whatever but now i find it just something fun and relaxing to do. 6 months ago i got back into art, although most of the time i may hate the outcome of my drawings, the end goal is just to do something to unwind a rough day and eventually get better with my skills. ive even turned my ig account into something i can post once in a while to share my progress with people (mostly my online friends). if people want to follow then thats cool, it doesnt affect me and my art much anymore and im honestly glad because its something that dragged me down and made drawing a chore and just a thing to please people with.
Yeah, social media sucks, especially when people seem to value art blogs/artists only when they are characters/machines that post aesthetic things and perfect finished art(I think the worse is that this treatment come from the own artists too💢), i think all of us sometimes get stuck on the wish of others approval/admiration, but in the end our social medias is our place, our wish to share our art/passion and see our own improvement
I had fun drawing in highschool and the art projects in class were fun. After that I discovered twitter and all the artists there, which were pro and already put so much work and time in their skill. Seemed stupid to try to ever get to that level, so I just dropped drawing all together. I would have never had the determination to to that, now its already 8 years since then.
Im im 11th grade now at an art school. Ive lost my passion around the second half of the 9th grade. Since then i was struggeling with my drawings, sometimes I enjoyed them, but never finished. Before this, my life was nothing but art and createing and i was expecting much more. Recently i started recovering from this, but i needed this help. Thank you so much for your advices!❤
Good timing for this video! For me, relying on art as a means to make money causes me to experience burn out from time to time. I like to think all working professionals stumble across these feelings; especially when working with a client's or audience's vision in mind. Deadlines too. If producing art for a living was that easy, everybody would do it! With this, I take a short break if I can to feel refreshed and resume working. I'm sure all jobs, not just art, come with periods of burn out too Maybe Marc has also had these feelings at some point too? I've heard of other professional artists experiencing burn out or injury from time to time and still enjoy art. It's easy to confuse frustration with a lack of passion.
Setting Unrealistic Goals: When we set goals that are too hard to achieve in a short time, it can make us feel stressed and disappointed later on. For example, a student trying to become a pro really quickly might feel overwhelmed and lose their love for what they're doing. Studying Too Much: Just like how too much exercise can tire out our bodies, studying too much without breaks or enjoying it can make us feel burnt out. It's like comparing practicing art to working out; we need to enjoy what we're doing and take breaks to keep our passion alive. Studying the Wrong Way: If we're not following a plan or learning in an organized way, it can slow down our progress. It's like having a teacher help us with a lesson; following a good plan and asking for help when needed can make learning easier. Linking Negativity with Art: When we start feeling frustrated or upset while doing art, it can make us lose interest over time. To fix this, we can switch to something fun or take a break when we're feeling down to keep our passion strong. Forgetting to Observe: Paying attention to details is super important in art, but sometimes we forget. By practicing our observation skills, we can get better at art and stay passionate about it.
I feel like I have lost some of my drive due to putting off art in the side of my mind and do other things, but it aches my soul when I can't do what I actually enjoy doing. I am making an effort to get back into it and get my comic project and other fun stuff.
I did hear most of what you said but that drawing you did in this video was particularly stunning. I was amazed the whole time and had to go back a few times to catch the tips lmao
The negative association advice is the STRONGEST out there, thank you so much for reminding me of that. Funny enough this is exactly the type of stuff you see in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
@@syntax2679 The way Cognitive Behavioral Therapy works is that it tries to create positive associations between your thoughts and your patterns of behavior. When you step off drawing because you get too frustrated with it, it creates a negative feedback loop in the brain where you associate drawing with frustration. If you apply the principles of CBT (not the meme one) to this, the solution would be to change your behavior when you are frustrated from leaving (fleeing the situation) to something more fun (draw something different/less stressful) which helps break the negative feedback loop and creates a positive association in the brain. Really sorry if this sounds a bit too convoluted, but to boil it down it's literally just changing your behavior in a way that influences your thoughts to be more positive. (The reverse can work too btw, it all depends on the situation and individual in the end). This is something that you see outside of drawing ofc. As I said, it's literally part of the principles of CBT.
Thx for the video I agree with the points you have made. Haven't been drawing seriously for a while now. Guess the artschool/s I have been to killed all the fun. Boring unfun studies again and again, constant competition and comparison with the other students, pressure of deadlines and high expectations. Wanted to become a 2D or 3D artist, but at the time of graduation I wasn't good enough yet, so I put more pressure on myself "I need to get better! Quick! I need a job now!". This continued until I reached a breaking point realizing "I can't go on anymore! I don't have any power left!". Got depression + anxiety and I am still recovering. With the rise of Ai, I doubt if an art job is still the right choice for me, because it is turning into something different than what I wanted to become back then. Feel that "Years of academy training wasted"-meme a bit ^^'. I guess traditional artschool and a job aren't that different either... and if turning drawing/ painting into a career kills all the fun of doing it, what's the point? It's not worth it to trade your passion for money and pain, just to be exploitet and to get replaced and thrown away like an empty battery one day. Sooo maybe I am happier if I start treating art more like a hobby again to find that inital joy I had as a kid. Just drawing what > I < want, for fun. No deadlines, no pressure, no competition, no unrealstic expectations... + one can still monetize their hobby at some point. Just because it isn't a traditional job doesen't mean it can't generate income in some way or form.
I have been doing it for so many years but I didnt improve due to having no mentor. I am exhausted finding the mentor. Now Mr. Marc I am accepting you as my Guru. I believe to get better by 2025 with Artschool.
I've been wanting to get into drawing for so long since high school 5 years ago. Been just too afraid. Used to draw a lot as a kid (like I would say we all do) but then school and life drifted from that. Writing has become a form of creative outlet, but I really want to get into and try drawing the things I write now. Heres to day 1 of starting tonight and then at least try to get 25 mins a day before work tomorrow morning moving foward
I have been a part of the art school program for a while and just doing studies, it hadn't been too fun and my passion was dwindling. I got inspired again after PewDiePies 30 day drawing video and decided to try it for myself. I would draw something I wanted every day for myself and it helped me so much to regain my love for art. And it wouldn't be that much time every day either, but it was enough.
Loved it Marc, as you have been giving back hope for me and my art path with your videos! Could you make a video or just some tips how to get back your passion if you have managed *successfully* kill it?
Animation student here, "gotta" get better to do my final project or else im gonna have to do 3D wich i cant do either, my brain keeps telling me that every drawing i do sucks because i dont like it and its not the level i want and for the past month my art as died, even the character i drew the most and had fun drawing it, as died in my sketchbook, i used to draw form day to day or form 2 to 2 days, now i only draw for work and my art wasnt getting better before and isnt getting better now either. Tried studying anatomy, got frustrated, ditched it, got back and drew the chracters i jsut talked about and a month later here i am after 2 days of staying up crying because my "art" isnt even CLOSE to the level i wish it was even tho so many years have passed but the reason is i cannot focus, i can not practice without forgetting to practice 3 days later and my art is now dead and im back at the point where i draw a ball and i start crying Thanks for reading my little ramble and sorry to write this paragraph on a comment section T-T
I am thinking of quitting art but unfortunatly i got nowhere else to turn to. Its my only choice at the moment to have a proper "chance" at having a job :_D
I recently found my works, which I did a couple of years ago, they were not entirely successful, but back then I didn’t care, it was fun for me to draw it. I still have a desire to draw, to create something new, but it seems as if I took a wrong path. And that somewhere I lost that same passion that I had.
Your advice on keeping the fun in art WILE ALSO taking time to study is sounds like a game changer to me. I'm trying to learn art since like...more or less 4 years now. Without much success. Because I'm putting too much pressure on myself. I just thought "I need to practice more! I need to do exercises, again and again until I get good enough to draw my personal art!" Even though I found quite good structured courses on Internet (I started "Draw a box" for example) the exercices TRAUMATISED me. It was not fun. It was scary, difficult, I failed a lot and with the pressure I put on myself, I almost traumatised me from drawing and I drew less and less through the years (especially since I had also less and less time with my first job, etc). The funny thing is that draw a box actually tell students to take 50% of their time drawing to draw for the pleasure of it. But since at that that I was really, really bad and didn't know how to draw anything correctly, well I failed. It turned out horrible. And I was ashamed. So I thought I needed to exercise more and...I totally forgot the 50% rule : my logic was to train until I get good enough to draw my own stuff without being ashamed of myself and of how bad it turns out. Sadly, this prevented me from 1) go outside of my comfort zone and draw things I don't know how to draw (that's how you learn, sadly! You need to go outside of your comfort zone and try stuff) and 2) it made me dislike art, since 90% of my time drawing were exercices that aren't fun and didn't really helped me draw what I wanted to draw, characters. So I almost was disgusted by drawing and didn't draw for a long time. But your tutorials, the energy and the fun you put in it and the exercise you propose really resonated with me and helped me slowly but surely getting back to draw and search for the fun and peace in it, even on pure exercises or study. It was still hard to get to work because I'm falling easily in the "I need to train before drawing what I want" trap, but I'm trying. But now, with the solution you give, I truly think you unlocked something in me. Now, I can do studies AND ALSO use them directly for "fun art" / pleasure ? So I don't start the fun part scared of the uknown as if I was starting from a blank canvas, not knowing what to do, but also it would allow me to directly use my study and directly see some kind of use to them in my need to draw my personal stuff! It sounds PERFECT for me, I will definitely try that! EDIT: and same goes for the trace advice! That's actually what I'm doing to reconcile myself with drawing, because it's easier for me to build pride in what I do, because it turns out "less" bad and it's easier for me! I fear that I need to do a lot of that now to build the confidence I need, but I guess it's better than nothing! My only question would be about learning the basics first. Because sure, it sounds logical. But does that mean I need to study let's say perspective before trying to learn how to draw then head? Because, in the end, even after some time of studying and even if I understand perspective better, I will still be unable to draw any character, not even a little bit. So it will be hard to stat motivated. That's why I think it should be both : try to learn what you truly want (like drawing characters) WHILE ALSO learning the basics. That way you stay motivated by trying to draw what you want while also practicing the basic in the right order.
Thanks bro for keep your community motivated yes I developed the bad habit of leaving my drawing in the middle to do something fun. I love drawing but sometimes some drawing doesn’t feel fun I have 50+ pending drawings I’m trying to finish them one by one from this year and it feels a lot better now. I’m not drawing every single day as per your advice and feel fresh.
Loved the video Marc, definetly important to keep that spark alive. I will say though, on regards to that first point, It's motly about avoiding unreasonable goals and setting shorter, more reasonable goals, this is incredibly true, since many people will want to do huge things and get stuck in planning for a long time, until the proyect eventually dies out, hence, the importance of shorter more achievable goals. However, it's ALSO important to have long term goals, they just need to be reasonable, and broken down in milestones that you can achieve in the short term, which is where most people stumble. For example, "living of art by next year" might not be reasonable, but "living of my art, and here are the milestones per month/year to eventually get me there" is more reasonable. I mention it because having that long term vision can also help fuel your passion and see long term progress. As another example, Marc's own course has an end goal of completing the course and becoming a "certified artist", but it's broken down in terms and the companion guide also provides daily or weekly goals to achieve as you work towards completing the whole course.
I got so caught up in drawing art for money that I lost the fun in it. Now, I only want to improve to justify charging more, It kinda sucks.
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THIS. My family pushed me to do commissions as a way to make extra money. They turned my passion into a "job". Over the years it has withered away until I finally broke. Now I stare at a blank canvas for nearly an hour before just closing the program. I never have ideas of what to draw for myself anymore, I ended up closing my commissions because I could no longer meet deadlines because I took too long to complete the work because I hated working on it. I want to get back into art, to improve so I can get more commission and get more people to notice me. But at the same time, I don't.
@@Crazy_Sue yeah, friend of mine has always expressed how annoying it is that their family keeps pushing them to try and make money off of their passion for art. A lot of folks out there just don’t understand that not everything in your life has to be inherently attached to your bank account
how can I earn money using art where do I have to sell how does it work if read this please reply I need those answers please
on studying: many artists find more success diving into a projects and study something as questions arise. This way you aren't burnt out from endlessly studying and you apply the new knowledge immediately!
I learned more by trying something I knew I could do 70% of and had to learn something specific. I've built upon each thing I've learned off each project. My first dungeon was just White (floor) grey (walls) black (ceiling/non-transversable) I then worked my way up with repeating textures to learn how to make Zelda style dungeons. I moved up to painting more natural features and now can paint relatively quickly.
My bane now? Architecture. So I now try to build something small that's architectural into my works to practice that as I struggle with 'built' features. You just keep pushing the envelope instead of dive in super deep and drown.
@@voidtalongaming4637@jt_manic Well said guys! I think that's my way of learning.
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such a good tip, thanks!
The negative association part really got me there.
Recently, it feels like doing art has become a chore, especially when I’m months into a final major project and that I don’t have a structure or steps to follow daily.
Each time I draw, I just either keep doing studies or I keep thinking about the project. I just couldn’t have fun creatively.
Ironically, I’ve been instead editing videos as a creative escape to drawing, I felt better doing it and I didn’t know why.
Eventually after a few weeks, I didn’t look forward to drawing anymore and I hated that. Today, I severely questioned my career choice and beloved hobby.
So really, thank you for sharing this. It helped me realize what I’m feeling and I’m actually gonna get up to try and have fun drawing
I needed this 2 years ago. I got into drawing because it seemed fun and I wanted to create art, but it quickly devolved into taking it too seriously, doing too much study, and having almost no fun. I wasn't drawing for the passion of drawing, or just for fun/creativity, I was drawing with the sole goal of getting good, and only when I get good I could enjoy myself and be creative. It was such a toxic mindset and made art so stressful. I barely made any progress over months because I wasn't passionate about it.
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Exactly how I feel 😮💨 I will start today though!
I never got rid of that mindset, art sucks because of it, such a shame
When you have fun it comes out better
....And then... And then?! Don't leave us hanging, tell me you rekindled the fun and found the passion again because I need to know that it can come back.
As Frieren said, The pursuit of magic itself is the greatest joy.
I have a lot of stories i want to tell, and i want to improve so the my art can accurately represent what I'm seeing in my head. I want to make something of my daydreams.
Relatable
Exactly how I feel too !! I feel like these ideas are desperate to be free, to be put on a paper, I want to give life to them. But I keep them locked inside me because ''I'm not good enough for it yet'' and then I'm surprised when I start to lose this, this unique perspective about the world, the feeling of passion. I must free myself of this expectation ''to be goo enough''
just some more people and we can start up "Maladaptive-Daydreamers Studio" lolol
Me too. :(
Me too 😭
I've been drawing / painting now for... gods 50 years. I can't count the number of people I've seen just... stop. Lose their passion. Honestly I can't say how I've kept mine for so long but I still love it. Likes, no likes, don't care, don't chase the algorithm, just have fun!
I've been drawing for 4 years. I pray I'm like you and never stop.
Dang i just started a month ago never knew it was that serious im not expecting much just seeing what works while sprinkling some FAAFO in while focusing on college work. How I'm still out here drawing is pretty surprising since i tend to set high standards on things i do
I needed this. I've been depressed and been thinking about quitting art for good because I can't make any artwork that I can consider "great" in my eyes. I end up comparing my old works and telling myself how I downgraded so much over a year.
In addition to that, I put so much pressure on myself by seeing how much my peers are improving in a short amount of time. I'm not mad at them, I'm mad at myself for not being able to catch up and with the rise of a.i. and artist getting layed off by big industries like riot, I sometimes think what the point.
Art is all I have, I love making art but it's just so difficult. But I'll keep trying and I won't stop. Thank you, Marc.
I know it's difficult but please don't give up! Do what you can, respect and don't be cruel to yourself. Your effort will be rewarded! Even if I don't know you, I believe in your potential! :)
Man, I'm currently in this situation too. Not only do I compare my latest drawings with my older ones, but I also keep comparing them to my peers', and it's depressing because mine look so trashy. My posts also never perform well. I wanna quit so bad, but then I'll lose the only skill I have then I'm gonna be even more useless as a human being
I feel you, i got too sick of feeling so stressed out by how far behind I feel after studying art for so long, so I ended up quitting for two years. Now I feel im so behind everyone my age so what’s the point in starting again
I'm this as well.. i feel so hopeless:')
Why don't you guys experiment with a different medium of art instead of just doing your primary art style. You can use what you already know to help you learning. If you draw, you could paint, if you paint you could sculpt, if you sculpt you could spray paint. Idk you get the idea, art is such a broad topic. Maybe take some classes to help you get started
the negative associations have become so bad for me. i completely trained my brain to unleash every negative feeling i have in my body while i am drawing, without realizing it. i cannot study, i cannot doodle, i cannot simply draw because i immediately feel angry and frustrated. it felt so good to have these few minutes of marc talking about it. I'll try and re-wire my brain into associating art with positive feelings again. i hope it'll work and it's not too late. i miss drawing from my heart so much and i want nothing more then improving but it's tough. it is so tough.
You can do this ; I believe in you! :>
Take care!
3:05 “doing pure studies is not something I do, personally”
- Saying that as a Teacher is the biggest inspirational moment for every aspiring artist 💙
- Hearing that a professional art teacher doesn’t overwhelm themselves with studies and “boring” stuff, is amazingly inspirational
At least to me-
I read a lot of comments talking about how drawing is no longer fun... In my case, I still love drawing, art is my passion, my life! I enjoy every stage of the drawing, even the most complicated ones. I hope you all can return to having art as something enjoyable again!
7:15 - The problem here, for me is that it becomes extremely hard to avoid that, every time i have to draw a torso; it comes out wrong, which leads to increased frustration, but if I avoid doing it, then it won't improve, but each time the hand won't play along or a finger comes out wrong in inking it just leads to more frustration, meaning you are.forced into a negative loop of bad experiences, but not engaging in the loop mean dropping art entirely, so its impossible to escape it, even after trying every effing method out there!
Small advice for the "avoid negative associations with drawing"-point
It can really improve your experience of drawing and also "getting into" working on something, if you have a nice workspace!
Get some nice posters from your favorite artist (or anime, movies, Comics, ANYTHING) that inspire you! Maybe get yourself a some small items that can unconciously make you happy and set you in a good mood (Examples from my desk include: A snowglobe, Lego-Pikachu, corkboard with silly doodles, figures [characters and animals], a pokemon plushie as support buddy).
You can apply this logic to your digital workspace as well by taking some time to setup your PC, tablet (whatever you're working with) the way you like it! Personalize it by chosing a nice wallpaper, maybe change some other settings to make your workspace reflect and support you! If you use the same PC for art and other work, you can set an unconcious trigger for your mind by creating a profile for work and one for art/personal use and differenciating them by their wallpaper (and other visual triggers! Visual and auditive triggers are proven to have the greatest impact on your concious and unconcious mind. By differenciating the visuals and maybe listening to a special kind of music, LoFi in my case, you will have an easier time to start drawing).
This does not only apply to art (recommending "atomic habits" if you're interested in learning more about these small butterfly-effect-changes)! But having a workspace that makes you happy the second you sit down is something that will rewire your unconsciousness to associate fun, happiness and other passions with your art! It will lead to a healthier, more motivated and more inspired experience in the long run!
(Be mindful to not stuff too many things onto your desk; your items shouldn't be distracting or restricting your movements; and be mindful of what you're putting there. Decorate your space with the small things that YOU like and that make YOU happy, even if you don't quite know why they make you feel this way.)
Edit: I'm working in homeoffice almost all year long and it does a lot for your mental health as well, trust me!
20yo, stopped drawing and started sculpting in blender, but i lost all the passion, there's no creativity... im trying to go back to this "creative path" and to drawing
It's been years since I've mentioned what happened to me lmao, but listen: I failed to enter art school and my family convinced me to study a "real" career. I graduated with very good grades, and I HATED it. Every year it was harder to convince myself it was what I'd "wanted" to do, until I realized later it was a mixture of family pressure and my own fear of failing at it again.
I'm 28 now, I moved out, I got a job - and I'm going to apply for art school again. I shouldn't have listened to my brain over my heart in this one thing. DO prioritize your passion if it is what truly makes you happy, as hard as the industry is right now!
Gonna take the opposite position here and say that you need balance between your heart and your brain. I've seen so many people absolutely RUIN themselves (their health and their finances) at a chance to do art professionally, because it's their "passion". In my opinion, no professional job (art included) is worth your health, wealth, or happiness.
To give you context, I am now in my mid-30s, and originally started my art journey in caricature at a major theme park in my late teens(I admittedly wasn't very good), and am now gainfully employed in the IT space. How you develop as an artist really has no timetable, and you cannot accurately time or predict your progress in any meaningful way; you could be struggling with a problem for months on end until you come across a bit of information or make a discovery and very suddenly, your quality improves exponentially. And I hate that no one really talked about this when I was going through school: the teachers are there to give you the essentials and provide feedback. Your struggle, however. is yours alone.
After a decade and a half of real substantial drawing (and hopefully many more to come), I figure that you may as well just have fun with it; you're in it for the long haul anyway. You don't win a triathlon by sprinting the whole way. Slow it down, do some cool shit! Discover yourself! Just make sure you're not killing yourself or jeopardizing your future to do it.
EDIT: Keep in mind, I'm not saying "don't go to art school". If you have the money and the time, ABSOLUTELY do it, if at least only to try it.
@@CFlandre My family wanted me to go to nursing school and i am doing it despite wanted to do art for a living
I am hoping i can make my years at nursing school worth it after and i can do what i want in art after i graduate 🥲
I saw so many people who started learning at the same time or later than me make much better art than me that my whole point of art changed to just improvement "I WANT TO IMPROVE" and during that and a lot of studies... my art just got worse n worse, slowly losing consistency as well
I will try to draw something for fun today just to reignite my feelings for art again
Yeah drawing has become a chore to me, it's a drag now, and I'm trying to regain the fun I had with drawing, but I'm having a hard time with it cause of my perfectionism and mild depression
Hey due I hope you didn't quit on your passion it's life , what ever you do if you start doing it daily it becomes burden , and on top of that when you are following your passion and have Goals set to it,I would just say get " crazily obsessed with arts " like it's your oxygen you think about it make it your lifetime regime and if you fail never get depressed try again and again and again until you succeed , it's never easy for anything, the things that person is saying is TRUE but I would say I have started to like arts as passion , I do it daily like my life depends on it , I think about it only and to progress work smartly also , like if anything goes wrong you have second plan, like I am in fine arts batchelors, I have lectures which are great but I still do Drawing for 2 hours everyday and even if I feel like I am not progressing I have whole class to discuss, I have a supporting parents and one of the most coolest professors , just in case if you are doing arts alone find a company , if you will do it alone you are going to only find regret , pressure and competition unhealthy, so I will suggest invest in your passion either find a degree or diploma or anything online or just start teaching or maybe make it a youtube channel , invest your time and money , even if you can't invest money just start to go outside meet with different people hang out your artwork in libraries or maybe just find a circle you will find fun in that hustle , only if you are motivated enough nothing is bad , even I say all time I hate this that but I never do it's just to tell me that I am doing some hardworking but inside I am enjoying everybit of it
Currently going through this as well, except with adhd thrown into the mix. There are a lot of ideas I'm excited to do at first but then once I'm actually drawing them it feels so draining and not worth finishing. I long for being able to draw frequently and enjoy it again so that I can actually see my ideas and be proud instead of them being stuck in my head...
@@swiss6616It would be nice to be able to just be able to *will* your depression away but that isn’t how the human brain works. I’m glad you are happy and fulfilled though.
Motivation is always fleeting, I have a real hard time learning things and unless I grasp something right away my brain just slides off and any further attempts are failed.
All I can do is stick with just showing up and doing something every day, I don't know where to go other than keep the wheels spinning because this car is all I've got left, I don't expect to go pro anytime soon but it needs to happen eventually, every day gets a little more demanding and the people around me expect me to do SOMETHING, its toxic to my will to keep going but hey, if anything I'm stubborn so here's to the rest of my life to trying and not giving up.
Your art class videos are one of the main components for keeping my art passion strong for over 2 years
I've been struggling with my art for many years. When i think I lost my passion, I find myself gravitating back to it. The negative associations hit hard because I got a lot of emotional baggage and resentment because of the decisions I made and the people I spent time with. I've been trying to rekindle that passion because I still like to create stories and characters. I just need to let go of my own baggage and just be me. I got a sketchbook at work since I have some downtime and it's been kinda helping. Thanks for these videos, Marc!
This probably my favorite illustration u have done so far!
same its so good i forgot what bro was talking about for a few minutes lmao
6:42 i wish i saw this video sooner, what you said here is absolutely true. I stopped drawing completely for half a year bc I got frustrated and quit and refused to go back bc I remember the negativity associated with drawing. Literally today I got back into drawing and it was fun but I feel I missed out on too much for skipping 6 months. Like, I would look at amazing art during those 6 months and feel like attempting what they do and even feel a bit inspired to draw, but I simply never did bc of how frustrated I once was. It really halted my progress. I appreciate your tip here about ending it on a good note. This is an old video but if this comment ever reaches you, thank you
As a person who been starting to learn how to draw, I have did most of these things and it really does kill someone's passion. Now I starting to gain the same motivation that I had when I started. Always a helpful video when Marc posts it.
9:12 I never really practice a lot but at the same time I realize I’m improving slowly because I observe
Walking out frustrated is a real one. I'm in the process of using background music/shows I like to recover it little by little. I don't dread sitting at the desk anymore.
Honestly, it's been so hard on me since I lost my passion, and thing is that I lost it from personal experiences in day to day life that took out all the happiness and creativity in me, not the way I looked at my art. People used to know me for my artistic skill and it just feels like I became a nobody without that drive. I wish I could go back to drawing so bad, but whenever I try, I just panic and close everything, now I don't even have my art to escape to anymore :'D
I take my art very seriously and I have never improved more in the last two years than in almost 13 years.
I simply stopped caring about social media and stuff and just doing it for myself, for fun. Completely changes the way I see art today.
People like Marc really helped me in that process and I kept discovering so many great artists that way, so thank you so much. ❤
Same, I practiced all of the wrong things, and only now am I finally understanding perspective after 15 years. Marc is a great teacher.
Expanding your knowledge is key and it all links back to life and it doesnt matter what style you have
a guide to starting on social media would be helpful, cause nowadays it seems like every platform has a bunch of problems going on
Doing something positive before leaving the work is a good tip.
I got your art school program for christmas but i'm currently not working on it at all after doing it for about a week and a half. School has just been very stressful lately, havig to write a scientific essay, studying for important exams, etc. and i've kind of turned doing the daily practices and watching the videos into a chore in my brain. i'm currently just allowing myself to take a break from it and just do whatever i want. been' learning the muscle anatomy of arms for the past, like, two weeks which has actually been really fun. i'll try to get back into the program during the upcoming winter holidays i have, but might not stick to the program full force in the beginning. the first lessons have all already been stuff i know so i've been getting bored quickly and got demotivated because i didn't really find any good refrences for gesture drawing. i'm gonna try to allow myself to learn my own stuff WHILE losely following the programme, as long as i feel i don't REALLY need or care for the content it offers. i still think it's a great programme, i'm just having some trouble getting into it.
What bums me out most when it comes to drawing is not knowing how certain things are done by other artist relating to the drawing program.
Anatomy can be learnt, perspective can be learnt. But how does this or that artist draw the lineart lines this way? Am I using the wrong pen? Maybe the good looking pens I can't use because of the drawing program I use? What about this kind of colour and shading? Did they use a tool or specific pen again? Maybe a setting or a blur? So many things that I feel like I will never understand just because I didn't see a certain setting or don't have the right pen. I'm also worried about not being able to draw in the style that I want to draw in. It makes me want to give up knowing my artstyle doesn't look like the artstyle that I want it to look like.
I get wanting to use the right brushes and programs but it shouldn't discourage you from making what you want. And I'm sure a lot of good artists experiment with what they got and just found something that worked for them. I'd say explore your options and see what you vibe with. Art is all about exploring you and your potential. It'll take a few tries but as long as you're patient with yourself, you got this!
Yeah, it is very important to cherish the small victories. Over time, I became more and more passionate about drawing, but that wasn´t always the case.
My first drawings were so bad that even my dad rejected a manga I wanted to gift him lmao. And also, he being more realistic but with more touch, told me many times I should be getting my stuff together and get more money.
Right now, more skilled, taking classes and making SOME money, my dad is now very positive with me, and that also made me love drawing more. In a perfect world you shoudn´t care what people say, and I now know the things he said were to push me to improve, but it really did help me like art more.
I knew about negative associations, but never realized how often I do that in my practice sessions, I have to improve on that part, thanks :D
I always liked your illustrations but, this one, it feels different, something changed but I'm not skilled enough (yet) to point what. It's awesome!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:43 *🎯 Setting unreasonable goals, like strict time limits for skill improvement, can lead to stress and kill your passion for art.*
02:36 *📚 Over-studying without breaks or enjoyment can drain your passion for art; aim for shorter, enjoyable study sessions mixed with personal art to keep motivation high.*
04:27 *🎨 Studying art without a structured approach can waste time and hinder progress; find a good program or teacher to guide your learning effectively.*
06:44 *🚫 Avoid associating negative emotions with art by managing frustration and avoiding comparisons; maintain a positive mindset to preserve your passion.*
08:51 *👀 Observation is a crucial skill for artists; improving your ability to observe details enhances your art and fuels your passion.*
Hi Mark I've watched your videos for over 4 years now and I can't help but thank you for all the educational content that you make. Now I'm attending an art program in my local university and I watch your videos to supplement the lectures I get in school (in most cases marcs videos are more helpful haha). Hope you keep on making videos and I hope to see more in the future. Cheers 🎉
Never did anything apart from studying in the last two years XD. I dont really know why but I can't bring myself to draw for "fun"; I instinctively prioritise learning.
I'm a new artist but a relatively experienced guitarist and violinist, and I spend 20-30 minutes noodling around and just enjoying the sound of the instrument before I practice basically every time I pick it up
That's definitely the reason I'm still playing, if I didn't do that I'd have given both up years ago
@@aaaaaa-ts3rw fellow musician I see XD. I'm not very good but I learned the basics of guitar, bass, drums and piano at school (I'm persuing a "degree" in music production).
I'd love to learn how to play the violon and the luth (though I guess I'll begin with the luth considering I have at least of expérience with the guitar 😅).
Lute will be pretty easy I bet, I can fake my way on a bass, mandolin, and uke without any issues. Violin has a pretty rough learning curve I won't lie, but if you've got music in you you can do whatever ^_^
we just gotta keep enjoying what we're doing, who cares how good we are
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This is very important, and I'm still working on undoing the negative associations after a couple of years of grinding too hard with unrealistic expectations and having negative work experiences
Important advice, find the fun and hold on to it!
Thanks Marc!
I recently purchased Marc’s art school to improve and I am starting to see it. The difficult part is balancing practice vs your own passion. I agree that you must tweak your practice so it’s always in line with something you care about. That’s when you produce your greatest work as well so it’s a win-win
needed this video! I was only questioning my love for art a few days ago and this video came at the perfect time. Art has been my passion for as long as i could remember but ive been so burnt-out of it that its started feeling like a chore, or a race i cannot win against my peers in (im in school for 2d animation). This video will help me rekindle my passion for art, thank you!
as respectfully as i can say it, its always super refreshing to see your linework up close and see that its loose and almost sketchy, i feel like im always tied down by making my line art water tight and as clean as possible which can take up a significant amount of time
I've only ever set the goal "I want to improve" and that has helped me more than anything else.
For me the best way to destroy my passion fort art and drawing was to go at an art school, paying a lot of money for some little advices you can have for free on internet. They wanted us to do too much work without having the basics. Learning the basics is the key and i think time must not matter when you learn them, everyone is different and you need to find the best compromise between learning and not being overwhelm. When you have too much work to doo in different kind of domain (animation 2D, 3D, animation 3D, english/spanish, etc) you can't focus on one thing, you can't have too much time for basics who are the key. You will spent your time working fast because "deadine is very important" it's a nonsence to impose "deadline" to people who don't even have solid basics to enjoy what they are doing. You just get crushed by time, your work suck, your mind is fucked and to learn its important to have alot of awarness on what you are doing. So yeah take your time and think about what you can improve a bit after each session, each week, each month. It take time, practice but i think if do it well you will not feel so much pain at the point you associate the fact of drawing at "A PAINFULL THING". Today i draw again but he took me 5+ year to found fun again at drawing, what a fucking lost...
At least ur back at it now bro❤
This came at the right time 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I've been hitting wall to wall recently and I've felt like I could never improve. My heads look wrong, my gesture drawings barely resemble a human, and my god, my line confidence is just blegh
I keep thinking that the moment I learn a new skill I should be able to do it that instant but I need to remember I need to have both the knowledge and the skill, it's something I need to do repetitively esp since I'm still around the beginning. I almost lost the fun in drawing so ty for this video
I remember making the mistake of focusing only on getting better without a specific goal. I always told myself that I wasn’t good enough. This lead to me to stop drawing pictures and only doing anatomy studies (my weakness at that time). Whenever I had time I sat down and drew human mannequins. And because I am a perfectionist I never made any progress. I was never happy with my results. One day I was about to continue my studies. I looked at them. But before I could begin drawing I emotionally felt something tearing apart and even a bit of panic? And that was the moment I stopped my studies and just wanted to have something in front of me, that I can be proud of. I was driven by the stress that had built up inside me these past weeks. But this time I resisted the urge to make every single line perfectly. „Perfectionism is the enemy of progress.“ When I finished I looked at my drawing. I felt something like breaking free from chains. The pressure was gone. I will never forget, how happy I felt in that moment.
Do you have any advice as to how you break through perfectionism? Kind of struggling on that as well
@@infiniteraide1642 I rushed myself a bit and tried to ignore lines I didn’t consider as perfectly straight. I tried to just move on and focus on finishing it. Hope that helps!
@@YourFriendNeaphy Thanks for that
Marc, you give GREAT advice.
Somewhat related, my father has a PhD and has always said that people should not treat college as a vocational experience. Too many people view higher education as some conveyor belt where they go to school, get a degree and get a job. He believes that people should go to college to learn and to improve themselves intellectually.
Anyway, just like with art, the result shouldn't be the only thing an artist cares about. Its the process and journey is what we should cherish. And it shouldn't have to be arduous or painful. I'm also not really a fan of rigid, old school studies. I think you make a great point about how you can learn plenty of skills and fundamentals while drawing what you enjoy. One doesn't have to draw a bunch of cubes and circles to learn about perspective and line weight. They don't necessarily need to attend a formal figure drawing class in order to understand things like body proportions and effects like foreshortening. These things can be picked up in all sorts of ways.
And your analogy regarding working out is 100% spot on. That's exactly how I explain art to my non-artist friends. It does require a lot of dedication and practice. But like working out, art also has its warm ups, cool downs and breaks. You don't want to burn yourself out physically, mentally or creatively. One shouldn't feel like they have to be doing art all the time. Balance, moderation and knowing when to stop are lessons some artists, even pros, forget.
Thanks for the warnings, Marc. I’m twenty months into learning to draw and need work now. The pressure has been a bit demoralizing and now I’m going to reset, thank you!
I am absolutely INSPIRED for the first time in... Years. I started drawing as a kid because it was fun, and I did it for fun years after that. I still do it for fun but I also want to make money. It has been feeling like a chore because I feel like I can't put my imagination onto the page. But your words have changed my perspective on some things. Thank you from the bottom of my heart ^^
I was told both in college and in an art community I was banned from that studying for hours is the only way to ever improve. I was literally told that unless my anatomy and construction were perfect, I should not be drawing my own characters or comics. I never knew I could do both. I'm trying desperately now, for some reason, to get better via your draw better in 30 days.
When I start to draw as a kid, I find it fun and wonderful, because it cheering me up and let my fantasies became true like a cute monsters or animals or characters
But after grew up, having a depression, I cant draw so cheerful as I was a kid. You looking to your own art and thinking how bad it is, when other artists became more and more good and enjoy every work. You know that a lot of study needed, but don't have a mental or physical strength for it while working for non-art profession or half of it.
Thanks for the video, I will take this tips to make my passion burn again inside.
This is something ive struggled with for years, and almost made me quit art altogether, several times. I wish I had heard these tips years ago, but I'm still so glad to have heard them now!! Thank you
Man im currently in that state of "getting so frustrated that i stopped drawing" and i thought it was just because of me being bad at art, definitely proud that i stumbled upon this video because i'll try to improve the way i aproach art this year.
man, I felt the "studying the wrong way" hard. 9 years into this shit and only less than 2 years ago I only just started to feel like I began learning how to learn in the first place...
Recently, I've found a small trick that helps me leave a practice session on a positive note. After doing a handful of sketches in pencil, if there's one sketch that stands out positively, I take a pen and ink it. Now, It's more fun to grab my stack of papers and flip through it.
I studied art too much and being perfectionistic made it worse, by repeating the same thing over and over and forgot my goal. Yeah i burned out majorly and forgetting so many things. I still struggle even after getting past burnout and honestly it's not as fun and sparkly as before HOWEVER I know that my love for art is still there, somewhere hidden deep inside, injured and just needs a bit of time and love, but you can rekindle or rediscover it. Just dont give up hope and have compassion towards yourself and your lil art baby like hide and seek, your art baby is just very good at hiding. Love to all who struggle with art and never give up
I usually get so bummed out by people’s skill. But recently instead of telling myself. “Wow, they’re so much better than me” to : “I wonder how they drew like that!” That’s helped my mindset a little. Also deleting instagram really helped 😂 I am a hobbiest but I would love to be a famous comic book artist and story teller could be fun!
Dude… you read my mind… just the video I needed to watch. Without realizing it I was starting to get tired of gesture drawing due to long daily sessions… thanks for the advice! These videos are a great complement to your course 👍
I've been into digital painting lately. Trying some different fruits and want to do some animals. It seems to help when I get to practicing gesture drawing a bit too much. Definitely breaks up practicing the same thing over and over and seeing minimal progress. Then when I go back to gesture/figure drawing I can more readily see the results. Great video this week.
Ok i take a moment to address the fact your weekly illustration is actually DARN HYPNOTIC. You never botch the art, it's more a matter of taste on my end, but this time it gets a fat like and a comment on its own. You rock.
Lately I have seen my mindset deteriorate and negative associations have become more common. I have spend countless hours practicing and drawing for fun, but when I publish my artworks, hardly anyone seems to like them. Even worse, my beginner artworks which were on a way lower skill level were way more popular. It is really frustrating. I think I needed this video. I'll try out your tip on #4, doing something easy when I am unhappy about an artwork
I'd never manage to get myself doing a study but that would mean being stuck in the same level forever. So what I do is combine a full art project and a study of some sort. That project will inevitably involve something I am not good at so I try focusing on that and experimenting. This seems to be working well so far
I still feel happy even when I make crappy art, I just kind of laugh at it! I have never lost my passion for it, and I think it's due to me not seeing the value of my art as a reflection of me. That way, managing art goals is a walk in the park. Do not make art or “being an artist” your identity, just be a person that enjoys making art.
I draw things that i like, i barely donstudies but i turn each piece into a study where i have goals lile making more compelling poses or better rendering etc.
Wow! That has to be the most extraordinary and unique pose I have witnessed in a space setting.
Excellent job on the overall execution of this artwork, which effectively conveys its ✨meaningful message✨
I have great respect for your talent. This art is truly beautiful.
I remember having so much fun learning and drawing all day, since I got on the world of commissions in 2020-2021, slowly I just become to lose interest in drawing bcause it was starting to be an obligation for the money, I always remember been doing fanarts, I love that, but once I started on paid works, I didn't do a single fanart or something that I like till this day, so I'm still on that "phase" of trying to recover that love that I had on making illustrations
what a nice video.. when I got serious abt art 10 yrs ago, I was often discouraged due to vids & teachers saying that there were certain "right" and "wrong" ways to do [start] things.. constantly shaming, rather than giving constructive criticism. while there are good and preferred things considering properties/structure, anatomy, etc.. beginner artists with new passion shouldn't be told this!! they should be given help-meaning everything this video went over! like how to start their journey in studying art in a way that's fun, suitable to you, and tips on how to pace oneself, and so on!
what got me going, was remembering that I'm doing this for me. for fun, and for everything else. I always try to keep myself encouraged and going! I love art.. 💗
Man, watching these timelapses is the most satisfying thing ever. It makes me so inspired to try and draw again, and this video was great for me since I sometimes tell myself negative things about my art!! Thanks teach 🎉
Thank you very much for your videos, Marc Brunet. I have been recovering from a horrible art burnout I suffered last year because I ended up doing practically half of the things mentioned in this episode (Studying but no fun, relating negative feelings to art, etc.) I've been doing my best to doodle just for fun now and your words of wisdom are a big help!
Drawing became such a task for me recently. I usually did draw a lot for online currency, I never finished the commissions on time or even at all sometimes because my commisioners gave me such boring ideas that I never wanted to do them. I gave up on doing commisions since I just hated it. Also because of my art teacher not liking my character design drawings which is what I like doing the most. I usually hated art class whenever we'd get a project because my teacher barely gave me any freedom in it. She even said one of my drawings that I liked was a waste of my talent.
Thank you marc. It was so ver insightful. I guess I can understand why I enjoyed art more back then, compared to now. You opened my eyes.
I've been drawing consistently for the past year every day and I've come to learn that I enjoy it but it's definitely not my passion. One of the biggest reasons I do it is cause it's the only thing I'm kind of good at. But it has definitely helped me understand myself a lot. Even if I don't end up becoming a full time artist or animator I'll never stop drawing completely.
It feels nice knowing habits that just felt good to me to do, was exactly what I needed to do.
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yo marc, I feel like your hairflow in this video share the same vibe like the japanese illustrator "Rolua". Really appreciate it if you do art studies on more Japanese illustrators cuz their methods are just too godly
I'm definitely seeing the influence of modern anime-style art and internet artists on your work compared to even just a few years ago, when your work was still lingering more heavily on game design work. It's really cool to see how a variety of influences can evolve a person's style and range of output over time!
Thank you for this video these are actually so helpful and it has inspired to try to do your course again. I bought it last year after graduating college with the mindset of “I need to finish this course in a couple months so I can get a job” and it completely killed my motivation and I stopped doing it even though I was learning from it. I think I will set the more realistic goal of watching the lessons through this year and applying them and practicing them in shorter intervals as this video suggests. Ty again for these videos! I’ve been watching your channel since I started to learn how to draw as a passion over a decade ago ❤
Thank you so much I was literally doing all of these and I’ve been feeling myself slowly lose my passion. I’m so glad I found this when I did
i think instead of trying to please others with your art its better to do it for yourself. years ago i gave up quick because i wanted to get likes and followers and whatever but now i find it just something fun and relaxing to do. 6 months ago i got back into art, although most of the time i may hate the outcome of my drawings, the end goal is just to do something to unwind a rough day and eventually get better with my skills.
ive even turned my ig account into something i can post once in a while to share my progress with people (mostly my online friends). if people want to follow then thats cool, it doesnt affect me and my art much anymore and im honestly glad because its something that dragged me down and made drawing a chore and just a thing to please people with.
Yeah, social media sucks, especially when people seem to value art blogs/artists only when they are characters/machines that post aesthetic things and perfect finished art(I think the worse is that this treatment come from the own artists too💢), i think all of us sometimes get stuck on the wish of others approval/admiration, but in the end our social medias is our place, our wish to share our art/passion and see our own improvement
I had fun drawing in highschool and the art projects in class were fun. After that I discovered twitter and all the artists there, which were pro and already put so much work and time in their skill. Seemed stupid to try to ever get to that level, so I just dropped drawing all together. I would have never had the determination to to that, now its already 8 years since then.
I really needed this particular class.
Especially positivity part, cause I did myself much harm on that field.
Used to draw everyday and practice like there was no tomorrow but my goals were to high I burned out in frustration this video was much needed ty ❤
Im im 11th grade now at an art school. Ive lost my passion around the second half of the 9th grade. Since then i was struggeling with my drawings, sometimes I enjoyed them, but never finished. Before this, my life was nothing but art and createing and i was expecting much more. Recently i started recovering from this, but i needed this help. Thank you so much for your advices!❤
Good timing for this video!
For me, relying on art as a means to make money causes me to experience burn out from time to time.
I like to think all working professionals stumble across these feelings; especially when working with a client's or audience's vision in mind. Deadlines too.
If producing art for a living was that easy, everybody would do it! With this, I take a short break if I can to feel refreshed and resume working. I'm sure all jobs, not just art, come with periods of burn out too Maybe Marc has also had these feelings at some point too? I've heard of other professional artists experiencing burn out or injury from time to time and still enjoy art. It's easy to confuse frustration with a lack of passion.
Setting Unrealistic Goals:
When we set goals that are too hard to achieve in a short time, it can make us feel stressed and disappointed later on. For example, a student trying to become a pro really quickly might feel overwhelmed and lose their love for what they're doing.
Studying Too Much:
Just like how too much exercise can tire out our bodies, studying too much without breaks or enjoying it can make us feel burnt out. It's like comparing practicing art to working out; we need to enjoy what we're doing and take breaks to keep our passion alive.
Studying the Wrong Way:
If we're not following a plan or learning in an organized way, it can slow down our progress. It's like having a teacher help us with a lesson; following a good plan and asking for help when needed can make learning easier.
Linking Negativity with Art:
When we start feeling frustrated or upset while doing art, it can make us lose interest over time. To fix this, we can switch to something fun or take a break when we're feeling down to keep our passion strong.
Forgetting to Observe:
Paying attention to details is super important in art, but sometimes we forget. By practicing our observation skills, we can get better at art and stay passionate about it.
I feel like I have lost some of my drive due to putting off art in the side of my mind and do other things, but it aches my soul when I can't do what I actually enjoy doing. I am making an effort to get back into it and get my comic project and other fun stuff.
I did hear most of what you said but that drawing you did in this video was particularly stunning. I was amazed the whole time and had to go back a few times to catch the tips lmao
the speedpaint was so good! it still looks recognizable as one of marc's drawings but it's also got a wildly different style and i really like it :D
The negative association advice is the STRONGEST out there, thank you so much for reminding me of that. Funny enough this is exactly the type of stuff you see in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
Could you elaborate a little bit on this? This really resonates with me and it'd be cool to know more
@@syntax2679 The way Cognitive Behavioral Therapy works is that it tries to create positive associations between your thoughts and your patterns of behavior. When you step off drawing because you get too frustrated with it, it creates a negative feedback loop in the brain where you associate drawing with frustration. If you apply the principles of CBT (not the meme one) to this, the solution would be to change your behavior when you are frustrated from leaving (fleeing the situation) to something more fun (draw something different/less stressful) which helps break the negative feedback loop and creates a positive association in the brain.
Really sorry if this sounds a bit too convoluted, but to boil it down it's literally just changing your behavior in a way that influences your thoughts to be more positive. (The reverse can work too btw, it all depends on the situation and individual in the end). This is something that you see outside of drawing ofc. As I said, it's literally part of the principles of CBT.
@@SCOBT thanks!
Thx for the video I agree with the points you have made. Haven't been drawing seriously for a while now. Guess the artschool/s I have been to killed all the fun. Boring unfun studies again and again, constant competition and comparison with the other students, pressure of deadlines and high expectations. Wanted to become a 2D or 3D artist, but at the time of graduation I wasn't good enough yet, so I put more pressure on myself "I need to get better! Quick! I need a job now!". This continued until I reached a breaking point realizing "I can't go on anymore! I don't have any power left!". Got depression + anxiety and I am still recovering.
With the rise of Ai, I doubt if an art job is still the right choice for me, because it is turning into something different than what I wanted to become back then. Feel that "Years of academy training wasted"-meme a bit ^^'. I guess traditional artschool and a job aren't that different either... and if turning drawing/ painting into a career kills all the fun of doing it, what's the point? It's not worth it to trade your passion for money and pain, just to be exploitet and to get replaced and thrown away like an empty battery one day.
Sooo maybe I am happier if I start treating art more like a hobby again to find that inital joy I had as a kid. Just drawing what > I < want, for fun. No deadlines, no pressure, no competition, no unrealstic expectations... + one can still monetize their hobby at some point. Just because it isn't a traditional job doesen't mean it can't generate income in some way or form.
I have been doing it for so many years but I didnt improve due to having no mentor. I am exhausted finding the mentor. Now Mr. Marc I am accepting you as my Guru.
I believe to get better by 2025 with Artschool.
Thank you marc!! Feels like your vids always come out when I need them I’ve been struggling with motivation for drawing latelyyyy
I've been wanting to get into drawing for so long since high school 5 years ago. Been just too afraid. Used to draw a lot as a kid (like I would say we all do) but then school and life drifted from that. Writing has become a form of creative outlet, but I really want to get into and try drawing the things I write now. Heres to day 1 of starting tonight and then at least try to get 25 mins a day before work tomorrow morning moving foward
I have been a part of the art school program for a while and just doing studies, it hadn't been too fun and my passion was dwindling. I got inspired again after PewDiePies 30 day drawing video and decided to try it for myself. I would draw something I wanted every day for myself and it helped me so much to regain my love for art. And it wouldn't be that much time every day either, but it was enough.
Loved it Marc, as you have been giving back hope for me and my art path with your videos! Could you make a video or just some tips how to get back your passion if you have managed *successfully* kill it?
Thank you Marc this really helped, it made me feel more at ease to know what I'm doing wrong and what to change t9 keep my passion at art 💜
Animation student here, "gotta" get better to do my final project or else im gonna have to do 3D wich i cant do either, my brain keeps telling me that every drawing i do sucks because i dont like it and its not the level i want and for the past month my art as died, even the character i drew the most and had fun drawing it, as died in my sketchbook, i used to draw form day to day or form 2 to 2 days, now i only draw for work and my art wasnt getting better before and isnt getting better now either. Tried studying anatomy, got frustrated, ditched it, got back and drew the chracters i jsut talked about and a month later here i am after 2 days of staying up crying because my "art" isnt even CLOSE to the level i wish it was even tho so many years have passed but the reason is i cannot focus, i can not practice without forgetting to practice 3 days later and my art is now dead and im back at the point where i draw a ball and i start crying
Thanks for reading my little ramble and sorry to write this paragraph on a comment section T-T
I am thinking of quitting art but unfortunatly i got nowhere else to turn to.
Its my only choice at the moment to have a proper "chance" at having a job :_D
The lesson this video was good, BUT THE ART IS WAYY BETTER, favorite thumbnail of 2024 so far❤
I recently found my works, which I did a couple of years ago, they were not entirely successful, but back then I didn’t care, it was fun for me to draw it.
I still have a desire to draw, to create something new, but it seems as if I took a wrong path. And that somewhere I lost that same passion that I had.
Your advice on keeping the fun in art WILE ALSO taking time to study is sounds like a game changer to me. I'm trying to learn art since like...more or less 4 years now. Without much success. Because I'm putting too much pressure on myself. I just thought "I need to practice more! I need to do exercises, again and again until I get good enough to draw my personal art!" Even though I found quite good structured courses on Internet (I started "Draw a box" for example) the exercices TRAUMATISED me. It was not fun. It was scary, difficult, I failed a lot and with the pressure I put on myself, I almost traumatised me from drawing and I drew less and less through the years (especially since I had also less and less time with my first job, etc). The funny thing is that draw a box actually tell students to take 50% of their time drawing to draw for the pleasure of it. But since at that that I was really, really bad and didn't know how to draw anything correctly, well I failed. It turned out horrible. And I was ashamed. So I thought I needed to exercise more and...I totally forgot the 50% rule : my logic was to train until I get good enough to draw my own stuff without being ashamed of myself and of how bad it turns out. Sadly, this prevented me from 1) go outside of my comfort zone and draw things I don't know how to draw (that's how you learn, sadly! You need to go outside of your comfort zone and try stuff) and 2) it made me dislike art, since 90% of my time drawing were exercices that aren't fun and didn't really helped me draw what I wanted to draw, characters. So I almost was disgusted by drawing and didn't draw for a long time.
But your tutorials, the energy and the fun you put in it and the exercise you propose really resonated with me and helped me slowly but surely getting back to draw and search for the fun and peace in it, even on pure exercises or study. It was still hard to get to work because I'm falling easily in the "I need to train before drawing what I want" trap, but I'm trying.
But now, with the solution you give, I truly think you unlocked something in me. Now, I can do studies AND ALSO use them directly for "fun art" / pleasure ? So I don't start the fun part scared of the uknown as if I was starting from a blank canvas, not knowing what to do, but also it would allow me to directly use my study and directly see some kind of use to them in my need to draw my personal stuff! It sounds PERFECT for me, I will definitely try that!
EDIT: and same goes for the trace advice! That's actually what I'm doing to reconcile myself with drawing, because it's easier for me to build pride in what I do, because it turns out "less" bad and it's easier for me! I fear that I need to do a lot of that now to build the confidence I need, but I guess it's better than nothing!
My only question would be about learning the basics first. Because sure, it sounds logical. But does that mean I need to study let's say perspective before trying to learn how to draw then head? Because, in the end, even after some time of studying and even if I understand perspective better, I will still be unable to draw any character, not even a little bit. So it will be hard to stat motivated. That's why I think it should be both : try to learn what you truly want (like drawing characters) WHILE ALSO learning the basics. That way you stay motivated by trying to draw what you want while also practicing the basic in the right order.
Thats why sometimes i just draw without reference and just let my mind roam cuz that keeps it fun
Thanks bro for keep your community motivated yes I developed the bad habit of leaving my drawing in the middle to do something fun. I love drawing but sometimes some drawing doesn’t feel fun I have 50+ pending drawings I’m trying to finish them one by one from this year and it feels a lot better now. I’m not drawing every single day as per your advice and feel fresh.
Loved the video Marc, definetly important to keep that spark alive. I will say though, on regards to that first point, It's motly about avoiding unreasonable goals and setting shorter, more reasonable goals, this is incredibly true, since many people will want to do huge things and get stuck in planning for a long time, until the proyect eventually dies out, hence, the importance of shorter more achievable goals. However, it's ALSO important to have long term goals, they just need to be reasonable, and broken down in milestones that you can achieve in the short term, which is where most people stumble. For example, "living of art by next year" might not be reasonable, but "living of my art, and here are the milestones per month/year to eventually get me there" is more reasonable. I mention it because having that long term vision can also help fuel your passion and see long term progress. As another example, Marc's own course has an end goal of completing the course and becoming a "certified artist", but it's broken down in terms and the companion guide also provides daily or weekly goals to achieve as you work towards completing the whole course.