@Keyser Söze 100 different distros can't run the browsers that were created on Linux distros. Have you actually switched a Linux box on during the last 15 years?
@Keyser Söze I run firefox, chrome and have played with Midori. I'm not sure what your comment is based on. None of the distros I have ever run fail to load those browsers. Which "distros" have given you this "hellish" experience.
When you install Windows 10, you have to agree to Microsoft's terms and conditions. When you get a mac, you agree to Apple's terms and conditions. When you install Linux, it agrees to YOUR terms and conditions.
On linux, I can update all my software at once. I can't do that on Windows. EDIT: Left this comment for one year, wasn't expecting this many comments. Wow.
updating all your software at once is what breaks the system, and when something fails you don't know which package caused it. Linsucks have missing packages, drivers fail after updates + dated GUI... you will spend %100 of your time copy pasting commands into a terminal. Mac & Windows Just work.
Imodium funny, that has never happened to me. It's literally selecting a list of updates for all the software on the computer, with the option to update all your software at once. If I have a 5-year outdated system running Linux, I can just update the whole thing in a few steps. With Windows, updating is a huge project. And drivers are almost never an issue on Linux, with most things working out of the box and never breaking. I don't know what experience you had, but it certainly is far from my experience and likely that of many people.
Not to mention you can update it whenever you want, and it doesn't take 40 fucking years to do it, or require restarts in the middle of the updates, you can literally just "sudo poweroff" at the end of the updates and power back on if you even NEED to restart. Of course if there's a linux kernel update or a new version of your distro (say you're on a rolling distro for example) then yeah, that would require a restart
On windows, I can play all the new games on steam. I can also CHOOSE when I wanna update (I mean its pretty easy tbh) I don't have to worry about forgetting a line of code. I don't have to spend hours setting up my system. I can program in nice apps. I can play Roblox.
Actually, this is both false. In order for an EXE file to run on Linux, it must be prompted to be opened by a user through wine. This must be done because wine like every other Linux program must be prompted by either a scripted or a user, before it can start up. So no, it will not act as a back door unless you open up a virus yourself.
And you still need to have installed Wine, witch is not installed by default because most of the daily use software are available on Linux. Wine are for tech savy people, not for commons user.
@Vukašin Đurić Đura except those components are open source software that perform similar functions while running a program in wine, but ultimately are not Microsoft software or from Windows.
@@randomyoutubeuser8509 use as a driver? are you using beta releases? are you using non-beta proper drivers? There is a list of devices that Linux works with - unlike Windows which tries to work with all hardware. Are your devices on that list? Did you try to resolve your issues with the Linux support community?
I used Windows for over twenty years . I switched to Linux and never will go back. The switch turned my computer life around. I now am a programmer PHP, Python, C++, Ruby much more.
I switched to Linux for programming and ever since I have I’ve been a lot more productive, I’m not sure as to why tho probably because less distractions in Linux.
@@readysetreact1345 form over substance? You might want to reconsider. Try using Linux with KDE desktop. Mint 17.3 KDE is a more traditional desktop and so is any with the mate desktop BEFORE Ubuntu 18 came out. Ubuntu 18 and newer ones base don that look far too much like Windows and act like it too. There are ways to alter linux to look just like windows. For many, we want it to just WORK without all the BS, regardless of the OS.
@@readysetreact1345 How so? And why are they using Mint? For basic computer use they might want to use Mx Linux. Comes with Libreoffice. Fast and does not use systemd unless you select it.
I agree about the donations issue. But for me, I have no CC or Debit card. Can barely afford the internet due to high cost or healthcare insurance premiums. If I didn't have that problem, a donation would be a lot easier.
There are so called "app images", which are programs in basically a single file with all of the dependencies inside and it is a great solution for running portable software, works offline, and there will be no conflicting dependencies (useful especially when running older software). The only real disadvantages are larger file size, no automatic updates and not everything is made into an appimage. So while great for getting stuff to work, it is still preferred to use official repos.
You forgot to mention Wine is not an emulator (or Wine). It is a compatibility layer that allows most windows programs (exe files) to run on linux, and steam released proton, which allows you to play a lot of games that are designed for windows (the list grows everyday). It's amazing how far linux has come
I wish people/TH-cam video uploaders would STOP saying that "you have to be able to use the command line to use Linux." You ABSOLUTELY 100% do NOT have to be able to use the terminal to use Linux. You can install Linux and run it for the rest of your life without never ONCE having to touch the terminal. Yes, it's handy if you are familiar with the terminal, but if you're just an average user who just wants to browse the internet, read/send emails, look at pictures, listen to music, watch videos, chat online to people, write documents, spreadsheets, presentations, databases, and play games, you don't ever need to toucb the terminal. The terminal is what advanced users like to use because you can reach every part of the system to tinker with it, and it's a lot more versatile than a gui-based program. As for the dependency issues when installing software, this guy obviously hasn't used Linux for a very long time. the package managers, software centres/managers, and programs like gdebi for downloaded deb files ALL take care of dependencies. Even installing software through the terminal, will get the dependencies installed. I'd love to know which experimental half-finished distro he was using when he made this video and made such a false comment. Oh, and like Windows doesn't have its own problems with dll files being overwritten and screwing up the system, by one software that needs an older or newer version of that same dll file to run. I really don't mind/care what operating system people want to use. If you want to use Windows 3.1 running on MS-DOS 6.2 that's fine by me. Knock yourself out. Use what's best for YOU and gets you the results you want/need. If that happens to be Linux, Mac, or Windows, great. But if you're going to do a video like this, at least do your research before you make the video so that you can get the facts straight.
As someone who works with Windows in the office, I think you 100% have to be able to use Powershell on Windows. There is simply no way around it. Is that a false statement? For the average user probably yes, for what I need to do at work, no. So it really depends on what you need or want to achieve, this is true for Linux and Windows. The reason Terminal is brought up often is that Linux users are usually more tech savvy and recommend Terminal because as they see it "it makes things a lot easier", while the average Windows user interprets this as "you need to use it, because the system is complicated". Using CMD or Powershell on Windows also makes many things a lot easier, often times I could fight with the GUI in Windows for 15 minutes for a simple task, while if I know the command line I can be done within seconds. I think that's a typical miscommunication problem, people who are good at something and want to be helpfull tend to forget that their recommendations can look intimidating to inexperienced people.
I would like to know what OS you were using because that wasn't my experience. Whenever there was a issue (there were quite a few) and I laboriously researched a an obscure solution = copy this arcane jumble of commands into CLI. I consider myself a power user, but I _never_ had to pull out the command prompt on Windows (whatever you say about how awesome joining the CLI master race is i just hate CLI). I encountered my fair share of problems in Windows, but Windows problems are typically easier to deal with. Linux problems in contrast are a gigantic pain in the ass to deal with, and compared to the smooth sailing accolades I hear about it I had a fair share of issues just like a Windows OS (I can agree Linux is faster and lighter though). I actually like Mac OS X somewhat more than either (apart from the limited selection of apps and customization compared to Windows) because compared to them it almost always _just works_ .
@@jackvac1918 I started with Ubuntu 10.04, and then a few weeks later accidentally found Linux Mint 9. I've been using Linux Mint ever since, as everything worked out of the box, without having to install codecs etc to play mp3 files or watch DVDs. Back then, I was dual-booting with Windows 7, but it couldn't even get a look in because Linux was running so smooth and fast and without any hassles at all. Then inexplicably, one day, I decided to boot into Windows 7 for some unknown reason. Within 20 mins I wanted to throw the PC out the window. My blood pressure was back up and off the scale, and then came the blue screen of death; the straw that broke the camel's back. I decided I didn't even want Windows on my PC any more, not even in a dual-boot setup, so I wiped it off, and have been far more productive using Linux Mint ever since. I'm a self-employed computer service engineer, and I've put MANY of my customers on Linux Mint. These are primarily people who you have to sit down and explain how to even copy and paste, and what that means. They wouldn't have a clue how to fix even a minor problem, be it Windows, Mac, Linux or anything else. With the exception of TWO people who asked to be put back on Windows, one of whom was a pensioner who just didn't want to learn something slightly new in terms of having to go into the "Internet" category in the apps menu to find the web browser rather than having it in front of him in a jumbled list of everything else, and another woman, who was into pirating DVDs using Nero Burning, and couldn't be bothered to learn to use Brasero which did the same thing, and came pre-installed at the time, EVERYONE else has stayed on Linux and tell me that they would NEVER so much as think about going back to Windows now. Remember, these are people who can barely tell the difference between a mouse and a keyboard ...and they're using Linux Mint just fine. Needless to say, most of them don't even know the terminal even exist, let alone how to use it, but they get their stuff done quickly and efficiently. If and when things go wrong, or they want to upgrade to a newer version, they give me a call, but in the meantime, they just use their PCs and it just works for them. So I stick by what I say. It's not hearsay or something I've read about somewhere. It's real life factual personal experience. You do NOT have to be able to use the terminal to use Linux. Your experience might have been different on account of a particular distro, or your particular hardware combination. If something like your wifi card doesn't work, for God sake just go out and buy one that is supported in Linux. It's not going to break the bank. applies to printers. My Creative Soundblaster Z sound card didn't work at all under Linux until... last year when somebody finally figured out how to get it and many other Creative sound cards working flawlessly under Linux, and his driver was so good it got included in the Linux kernel (no thanks to Creative who didn't want to know or even consider helping anyone to develop a Linux driver. I still have the email from them saying as much.) Anyway, that sound card now works with the 4.18 kernel upwards ...or you can patch earlier kernels if you want to go through that. No one is tied to any particular piece of hardware, or software. If something doesn't work, change it. If you're "geek-minded" and love to tinker, tinker away yes by all means, but don't say that you HAVE TO be able to use the terminal because you don't. Just because one distro gives you problems, doesn't mean that all of them will and Linux is bad. That certainly hasn't been my experience, and it isn't the experience of my customers either.
@@hellortha5403 I sound "silly" because I have installed Linux for many people who aren't too computer literate or expert, and just want to do basic common tasks on a reliable operating system, and because I also have enough of a PERSONAL experience using Linux to know a false statement when I hear one? Grow up you imbecile. I never said anything about that being the case for EVERYONE, in EVERY circumstance, but it certainly is true in MANY instances, as I've seen for myself. From the very young (such as my own nephew who has been using Linux for the past two years since he was five), to elderly retired people. All of them using Linux and not ever having touched the terminal, and some who don't even know of its existence. Whether Windows or Linux, most of them wouldn't have a clue how to fix their computers if it got screwed up, so your point about having a personal IT guy is totally irrelevant, and wasn't anything I was talking about. So instead of looking for arguments and making a complete ass of yourself, try learning to read and understanding what is being said, without putting your own half-baked opinions and over-inflated egotistical nonsense words into other people's mouths. No need to reply, as I'm not interested in any more crap you have to spew out of your gob.
One advantage you missed with Linux. With Linux the updates sit and wait for you to choose when to update. I can't tell you how many times windows has forced an update on me when I'm in the middle of doing something else. Yes you can schedule when windows does updates but often windows will clear your personal settings including update schedule back to window preferred defaults. You can also setup Linux updates and it will never mess with your personal settings. But the default of sitting there waiting for you to click it is priceless. Linux respects its users windows disrespects its users.
@@majingamer6109 But it will take forever to update, then reboot a zillion times before it's ready to use like Windows always have in the past. No thanks.
@@majingamer6109 OMG really???? xDDD so what you're saying is you have to buy the PRO version in order to be able to schedule the updates by yourself!? Thtat's even worse than this DLC bullshit most big game publishers pull off
Huh windows never just restarted, forced me to install them or changed my settings. When I shutdown my pc I can shops between update and shutdown/restart or just shutdown. I adjusted my settings when I updated from win 7 to win 10 once even being in the insider program and then leaving it didn't do anything. It's all about setting things up correctly.
The Linux curve: Someone who spends all their time in a web browser: Use an “out of the box” distro like Mint and they may not even know their on Linux Someone who’s competent in Windows and uses special software: Stay on Windows for the familiarity and compatibility Someone who’s highly technical: Use any Linux distro for the fun learning experience of something new
windows honestly is more suitable for me, but i wanna test linux for its customizations possibilities and for the sake of learning something new, i don't know if i should honestly.
I run Linux, Not because I can control everything and geek out in the the terminal reading code or compiling a new kernel...but because Ive gotten lazy and just want my PC to work without popups or virus scans or some subscription service expiring. Started with DOS in the 80's and all versions of windows (including windows 10 at work which is an issue when Im in a hurry to shut it down so I can go but it wants to install updates first or when I turn it on in the morning and cant work yet cause it wants to..you guessed it.. install updates).. Ive suffered enough. Been using Ubuntu since 2005 and Ive been happy.
@@frataltay4543 Maybe they have but who knows if they would implement it again. Besides Ubuntu does suck cause it uses the heavy Gnome DE and apt sucks. pacman seems better to be honest. Its easier to use.
I don't use ubuntu but if they removed it. It means that at least they're still listening to the people who use it. I use debian myself. Never tried anything else it just works I could get everything I need from the repository.
In some modern Linux OS's you don't need to use the command line like Ubuntu Mate or Linux Mint. The update process in Windows is archaic, in Linux it's fast, VERY fast, seldom rebooting. Installing software is easy, depending on which OS you choose. However, if you game, stick with Windows. Linux user since 2006.
Really, the only updates you actually need to reboot for are kernel updates. And you don't need to immediately reboot, it will just update when you do reboot.
@@anantgupta7916 nah not all linux user are hacker a lot of them are a developer and security expert, that doesnt mean they dont have any hacker in the community (english arent my first languages sorry!)
The way Linux works is simply elegant. It makes more sense than Windows. I'm not saying Windows is bad, however Linux is technologically more elegant. A delight to use.
Sure, ....... and the earth is also a spinning magnetized pear tossing through a vacuum at 500 ,000 mph. Tell me how scouring every folder in the root file system is any easier than looking in your Program Files folder or appdata? Linsux scatters programs all over the place there's no single directory they're saved to. Plus all the dot files none of it is consistent AT all.
@truthseeker Oh belt up! So that's why Red Hat, Canonical, and Suse Enterprise are raking in millions in cash, because Linux is so bad that only people with no real work to do use it, right? You're pathetic, and need to grow up.
@@greenazure4367 what are you? A windows fan boy? Does that even exist? No, you're probably a fan of mac, which like Linux is based on Unix with a kernel made by apple with way more restrictions. That's the biggest difference between apple and Linux, other than MacOs LITERALLY IS slower than Windows. Even if you use the same CPU, Ram, Video-cards etc.. Ref Linus Tech Tips
Linux is constantly writing logs into maaaaaaaaaaany directories which slows down your hard drive considerably compared to windows. Linux administrator said so and it makes sense. If you have some stupid bugs in windows, then just say: "I have a bug"! Dont mislead people because hard drives actually work faster in windows. It's a given fact. Sorry for my english.
@@dobro5958 I'm not misleading people though. I just said that windows is using 100% of my HDD and SDD. I never said that hard drives work faster in Linux. Also, you're English is pretty good.
@@hegemon8 *When You really shut down windows (not that hybrid turn off it does by default)* So why would you do that? *before superfetch process (google it) finishes its stuff* Googled it. It says that its very usefull and drastically improves launch speed of aplications. Also it says that it almost doesnt affect any modern hardware performance (SSD for system). *And writing little text file in system log takes split of a second* Yes, but writing 97 text lines into 56 log files located in different places of your sistem all *in the same* time slows your hdd performance pretty hard. Also it is very bad for SSDs. *collecting all telemetry data to send to MS takes longer, believe me* Probably yes. But did you do any tests? Ofcourse not. Also why should I care if its unnoticeable even with my 800$ laptop with ssd that I bought 3 years ago? *NTFS is a joke, and... "You know it"* From user perspective it does everything I need. And from user perspective linux is a joke because all it does is providing me with endless problems that I constantly need to resolve reading tutorials and fucking with terminal.
@@hegemon8 Sorry, but this is terribly misleading. Windows 10 shouldn't be using your HDD or SSD this much, and if it is there's a serious error with your PC. Most likely a viral infection or other malicious software. Superfetch simply stores some of the more commonly used applications in RAM. Yes, RAM, not your HDD, which means it drastically reduces the amount of time spent reading the HDD and SSD overall. You tell people to Google things, but haven't got the gumption to do so yourself apparently. RAM is fast, which means fetching application data from memory is going to be considerably quicker to do than reloading it from the hard drive. Misinformation is the enemy of all.
Don't switch, Windows > Linsux , in fact, Linsucks = worst driver support, Bad GUI, 100% terminal. Linsux is for communists who can't afford a Windows License or a macbook. Your best bet is to switch to Mac OS, apple will take care of you. They have apple support. 👍
@@imodium438 OS X comes with spyware like Windows 10. Driver support ain't that bad (as long as you don't use old nVidia graphics cards). There are pretty good desktop environments for Linux such as KDE, Deepin, Gnome etc.
@@imodium438 it's not bad of your an end user like me.. Also I'll never swap to Mac because of their data breaches and the price, my newer laptop has Windows 10. Not everything is command based on which distribution you use, I use Mint or Ubuntu.
@@Ronzaigu you should be firced into software you dont want... edge is prime example, you force it into system to point of constant background use than no one uses it...pure bloatware that just stops you from using computer with no way to opt out. duscusting....
Balogh Mihály, Not everyone wants to dual boot. Some people just want consistency, that's why people generally use one browser and don't jump between Safari, Chrome, and Firefox every time they open a new window. I guess it is not a bad thing to have options though. "Peace!"
@@asans9849 I use 5 different browsers to prevent me from having too many sites bookmarked in one browser. It keeps things a little more organized imo.
No because if you take the square root of Joe and divide it by Thio you will get Half Life 3. So In theory if you find the square root of Thio then add Joe, you get ThioJoe
I switched to Linux in 2012 and am in the process of switching back now. Here are some random thoughts in no particular order. 1. Linux is a BEAR to configure. Anything you want the computer to do, like say, connect to your OneDrive account, requires extensive web searching, lots of trial and error, cryptic terminal commands and much head scratching. Any time your computer requirements change slightly, like you buy a new printer, for example, you have to do to hours of web searching for some hack, some work around, some cryptic commands to make the computer work the way you need. You eventually stop trying to extend your computer horizons because the up-front investment is so great and too often fruitless (see point 14 below). 2. You will NEVER be entirely free of Windows. At some point, you will need to, say, take an online proctored test. When you do, you will be borrowing a Windows computer from a friend because there is NO WAY to do that on a Linux box. 3. Software support is minimal. There are a bazillion little 3rd party apps that add a lot of functionality to Windows. Those apps are not available for Linux. I'm talking about screenshot capture programs, pretty desktop background programs, weather bugs and the like. Get used to not having them in Linux. You know that little app you downloaded from your VPN provider that connects you up in minutes with a simple click of the mouse? You won't be doing that anymore. You'll be digging into the command line, entering long strings of incomprehensible gibberish and crossing your fingers every time you connect. Even worse, Office 365 is not available. Most cloud functionality is not available. Adobe Photoshop is not available. CAD of any kind is not available. Yes, there are Linux knock-offs, but they are shadows of the big commercial software programs, and no one can answer your questions about using them (see point 14 below). 4. Hardware support is minimal. Do you like your fancy mouse with 17 different buttons that do everything you want, just like you want it? Forget about getting that to work on Linux. It turns magically into the most expensive 2-button mouse you ever bought. Forget about getting a lot of printers to work on Linux. Prepare to replace at least 1 or two cards inside your computer, because some of them absolutely will not work with Linux, despite all your efforts (see point 1 above and 14 below). 5. I've used Linux exclusively for 8 years and still don't have to foggiest notion how it works. Like, WTF is in all those system folders on the HD? Why is there no rhyme or reason to them? What are all those weirdly named dependencies I have to download in addition to the software I want? Why does some software come via repository, some come via *.deb file, and some require command line codes to install and utilize? WTH is Grub and why can't I ever figure out where to put it? These are only some of the myriad mysteries of Linux that you will bump into routinely and never understand without a CS degree from MIT. The Windows architecture is rational and knowable. MSFT invests a lot of money into explaining everything with websites, tutorial videos, top-level training programs, discussion boards, etc. You basically have the smartest minds in the world going to great lengths to explain how and why they've built Windows to work like it does. By contrast, Linux is a Gordian enigma (see point 14 below). 6. I never did one virus scan and never got one virus on Linux. Ever. Windows was another matter entirely. 7. On Windows, I have the distinct impression once again that someone is looking over my shoulder whenever I use it. 8. On Windows, every system hiccup can be corrected in roughly 5 Google searches. In Linux, most are unsolvable, see points 1, 5 & 14. 9. Linux file permissions are maddening. There are some areas of the HD that Linux absolutely will not allow you to change. This is all in the interest of security, but it's a flat out PITA, because sometimes you need to make changes. When you do, Linux will block you with file permission nonsense. In a lot of cases, it blocks the administrator from making changes. When that happens, you're stuck doing hours of internet searches for terminal commands to move and copy files, hours more to change file permissions, then hours more to make them recursively for all the subfolders that the first commands you found didn't do (see point 1 above). It's absolutely exasperating. For Pete's sake, it's MY computer, I'll blow it up if I want. And usually, you will when you start doing sledgehammer fixes out of sheer frustration. 10. Linux is not that tough. I've crippled my installs on at least 3 occasions, leaving me high and dry and requiring an emergency reformat each time. Some of the issues could have been resolved if points 1, 5 & 14 weren't such problems. The 1 day spent reformatting was simpler than sorting through all the blind alleys online trying to fix a simple issue. 11. Some of the software on which you come to depend will just stop being updated one day without warning or explanation. You'll be bummed when that happens. 12. Linux was a godsend for my 75 year old Mom. Linux is very stable. It doesn't pop up bizarre warnings that confuse many unsophisticated users. Better yet, it doesn't decide one day to radically change its interface (MS Office 2007?) or re-arrange your menus because it felt like it. For most people it will work exactly the same, day after day. It's simply wonderful if you support users with very basic needs and limited tech savvy. 13. Linux is free. As in FREE! You can completely outfit your computer with just about everything you need for nothing at all. What's even better is that you don't have to fight with pay walls, or hack your registry for product keys or jump through any other hoops. You simply open the Software Center, select what you want and it downloads and installs just like that, and most of it works decently well. That's a wonderful thing. 14. Most of the answers you find on Google to questions or problems you're having with Linux will NOT work. I'd put the percentage at 95%. That's what makes point 1 above such a problem. You will find lots of answers in the form of confusing explanations and lots and lots of cryptic terminal commands. Unfortunately, when you try them, they will not work and you won't know why. So you always have the impression that a solution to your problem exists, but never the satisfaction of actually finding the solution. The reality is that most tech geeks using Windows (the kind of guys who answer your question about that funny error message you're getting) are professionals, IT admins, engineers, computer scientists and the like. They know their stuff and will have you sorted quickly. At best, the geeks using Linux are professionals tinkering with Linux in their spare time. They'll get to you after they've answered all the Windows questions. But then they'll be tired. That's the best you get. At worst, they are guys in remote cabins stockpiling beans and bullets. They aren't necessarily bad people, but logical thinking and rational communication will not be their strongest suit. I enjoyed my time in Linux Land and will continue to keep it around in some form or other. It has some very good uses. In the end, though, it just doesn't work for me as a primary OS. I was always able to bend Windows to my will. I could find the work-arounds, implement the solutions, do the registry hacks or whatever else was required to make it work like I wanted. Sadly, Linux has defeated me. It's a great OS, but for a curious power user who likes to tinker, it's just a constant frustration. In contrast, Windows 10 is easily one of MSFT's best ever. I am more than happy to make the jump back.
@Pumpkin Patch i am not one of those crazy people with the tinfoil hats. i agree that privacy is sadly dead, but i do believe that i would rather not use google because the less privacy invasion the better. i dont use Tor, but i understand that privacy is important. You can't hide from the government but privacy is still valuable.
I am fairly new to Linux and from what I’ve seen and learned, I have to go with Linux It’s more stable and the updates on Linux are a breeze. Updates on Windows 10 take way too long
I’ve used windows and Linux on a fairly new laptop with an SSD and linux takes 5 seconds to 3 mins max to update, and windows takes 2 to 5 mins to update.
@Insane Studios This is a false assumption. Stereotypes for Hackers is that they use Terminal to hack someone or something, but no. All hacks are made through programming not by command lines. But since Linux is known for using Terminal as its main settings/configuration/system management UI, everybody thought Linux is used for hacking... but no.
@@ohCran Kali Linux already comes set up with all the hacking tools anyone would need (whether it be white hat or black hat). Also Linux terminal is just far better equipped for exploits compared to CMD or powershell.
Ahmed Ali you mean specifically kali Linux right? Because every os pretty much comes with a way to code (which means you can hack) Kali Linux on the other hand comes with programs like Wireshark, Medusa...etc though, and is made specifically for “ethical hacking.” You can get these online though so... I don’t get your point.
Yes. In almost every sense. No spyware/bloatware, no annoying updates while gaming, etc. Just wish Linux had more support in gaming and productivity software. Win10 for gaming. (Upgrading to win7) Linux for everything else.
Valve? As in, verify your Steam account through your phone even though we have nothing to do with phones, Valve? Valve, as in, we never saw a crappy game that was to bad for our platform until a developer threatened to sue Steam users for bad reviews, Valve? That one? Hmmmm. Maybe. Maybe that might just work. Maybe.
I whole hardheartedly agree you. We are getting more AAA games coming to Linux. Rise Of The Tomb Raider is coming to Linux next month, we already have Tomb Raider 2013, also Life Is Strange Before The Storm, we have Life Is Strange too. Yes I know that it takes time for games to come to Linux, but think about the amount of time spent porting and money that's invested, not to mention getting permission from the original authors. Square Enix are well interested in Linux at the moment with Feral Interactive who are busy with Life Is Strange Before The Storm and Rise Of The Tomb Raider, bringing these huge games to Linux is an eye opener for Linux. People still don't know what I'm on about when I mention that I use Linux instead of Windows. I get questions like what's Linux, answer a free operating system that can do everything faster than your Windows, because we don't have to rely on things running in the background, when we're gaming. Plus the fact Linux is yours to do with as you please, once you have installed it. When you run a Windows machine it is not yours to own forever, as you still have to answer to Microsoft, you only hire Windows, not own it out right. Try changing the look of your Windows machine to look like a Mac and you'll break it. Like you say if only the dual booters of Linux and Windows would run Steam on their Linux side, they'll find they can play quite a few of their Windows games in Linux, but getting through to people sometimes is like pulling hens teeth. But then again if Linux was more popular and up there with Mac and Windows, then we'll be in trouble, with hackers too. Anyway long speech over and done with. I use Peppermint OS 8 and Manjaro XFCE
Linux is fine for gaming, just use WINE and you can get even better performance than on Windows (Sometimes but not necessarily, though most distributions of Linux are lighter than Windows)
If i use Windows for gaming and woking, what exacty is "everything else" I use linux every now and then at work and i friggn hate it. Every little thing (like changing the keybaord to japanese) need internet connection.
I'm a "regular user" who switched to Linux for the corporate-free nature of its software and the related user freedom, privacy, and security (as well as UI flexibility). I found that there are open source software in the repositories that cater extremely well to my workflow and actually work better than Windows software for the fact that, unlike on Windows, they are designed and developed by the people who actually use them in their own work. That's one huge bonus on Linux -- the reliability and quality of the software. Community maintained software has its clear advantages. Of course, that does mean that you need to approach Linux with an open mind, as its own computer platform, and not expect your Windows software to work on Linux (just as you wouldn't expect Linux or Mac software to work on Windows) (although cross-platform file compatibility is pretty decent, including files for Microsoft Office). Linux is also getting easier and easier to use by the average person as the years roll on and development continues. It's also an excellent solution for those who just want things on the computer set up once, and to work that way forever. No forced upgrades, no undesired changes. This makes it a great choice for non-computer-savvy people (as long as they have someone who sets the computer up for them, initially).
Now that Microsoft have created crazy hardware limitations for Windows11 I think a lot of people will be repurposing their old (but still good) PCs to Linux. I also agree with your comment on using Linux to create secure systems for older relatives, etc.
My mom has been using Windows exclusively for decades, but she still doesn't know what anything is or how it works. lol So, yeah, maybe. Thing is, if you get involved, be ready to be tech support. If you don't know Linux well, you can't be telling anyone else to use it.
@@NickRoman She might like to try a live session of Linux Mint - it looks and feels a lot like Windows, and I've switched a lot of Windows users to Linux with it because it's very accessible for someone that's used to Windows
They won't. People don't care about long-term solutions, just quickfixes so they can forget about it. Old laptop doesn't support Windows 11? Buy a new laptop. It sucks, but it's the way of the world.
Your example regarding elderly users is spot on. My parents are 70 years old. I switched them to Linux Mint about 8 years ago. All they use the computer for is browsing the Internet, and playing music. Since these activities are not operating system dependent it really makes no difference what OS they are on. The main reason I switched them is that I got tired of having to maintain their Windows system. My father is one of those people who inherently always found a way to get his PC virus infected no matter what anti-virus software I installed. One time I found over 300 viruses, and it took 3 different programs to clean them all off. That was it. I was done with that. I switched them to Mint, and haven't had a problem since.
Exactly, especially linux is effective with people that do not even know what actually a computer is. You can teach only how to use it for what they really need! Like Your case, and the job is done with no problems.
Unlike what was stated at the start of the video, virus writers don't go after Linux because it is much more secure, not because there are fewer. Mac runs on BSD and is also virus free! Though I don't use Macs, the EUA is what kills all those other non free OS's.
@@robertgolding there are viruses for every OS, if ut exist it WILL be exploited. most viruses infect the computer by compromising the kernel, installing and running scripts they arent supposed to... that can happend on any operating system regardles of antivirus software and developers effort. all it takes is ability to install programs or even sometmes downliad files and your done. what actually makes linux safer is that it has repositories, places to download software that are already checked for viruses by devs a.k.a. an app store... yes microsoft also has this but it lacks miles comoared to linux package managers.
@@qwerte6948 Haven't had a virus in nearly 30 years, that was when I switched from CPM to Linux. If you keep the system as intended, i.e. SECURE, you never get a virus. Back in the early 90's CPM was nearly dead and I was initially looking at MS but when I read the EULA I decide against it and looked at Linux. I have never looked back.
I switched to Arch Linux because I was sick of kicking windows "10"(coff 9) into submission. with Arch Linux i command and it obeys nor does it disrupt you with "mandatory updates"
The mandatory updates are important security improvements that can stop viruses. You don't want to get a virus on Windows, do you? Just be glad the ultra-long feature updates aren't mandatory.
I made the switch from Windows to Ubuntu. I was also de-google-ifying and unfriending Facebook, so I was changing everything. Basic funtions didn't change much. There's a learning curve under the hood. I'm not giving up though. I'm a man on a mission.
Well, I mean direct products, as in those explicitly displaying the Google icon. Sites like TH-cam are owned by Google and I don't like them, but before someone figures out how to start a video sharing service more successful than TH-cam, I guess I'll have to tolerate it.
@@Gramini My whole library (Save VR but that's just because of the headset brand, if I had a Vive or Index it'd work) on Steam works fine under Linux, and I have 150 flatscreen games ranging from AAAs to niche indies. Proton (+ Wine-Lutris for the few incompatibilities) is basically flawless, even online. Will all games run the same or better as under Windows? Hell no. Is the experience good enough to leave my Windows install as an ugly but necessary VR mode? Hell yes.
"Dependency hell" - you've seriously *never* heard of *DLL hell* where one Windwos app relies on one version of a library (DLL) and another app needs a different version of the same DLL, and the clash between the two causes Windwos to become unstable and crash?
I've never had issues like that. The worst in windows was years ago, some program I tried to open said there was a DLL missing, and when I went and found it (not the right answer here), it then said another was missing, on and on. So I thought better and tried to figure out what these DLLs were a part of, obviously this is not how you fix this because in windows we don't expect they'd have us doing something like this, and I found the proper redistributable or whatever to install. There might have been a couple, I don't remember, but that was very rare, hasn't happened in modern windows or for ages, and nowadays windows (or steam) tends to find what it needs without any fuss. The worst problem in general I ever had with windows was back in ye olde times, with IRQ conflicts. Thankfully that's been absent a decade or two. It still pales in comparison to what happens whenever I try linux.
there's NO QUESTION linux obviously is ... windows wins only because of it's 90% market share, meaning a self-supplying ring of "developers use windows because everyone uses windows"
That is incorrect. Android lacks a lot of compatibility with Linux binaries, and vise-versa. Android is a VM that runs atop of Linux with tight integration. So no, it isn't a distro and it isn't 100% Linux. ChromeOS, however, is a Linux distro (often derived from Gentoo), though heavily modified and locked down.
It lacks in compatibility because the kernel of Android is modified...But Android's kernel is based entirely on Linux...So yes, it is Linux...Modified with commercial purposes.
You can technically use FreeDOS for some things, including on the network. I have it in one of my VMs. That being said, it's extremely limited and while it will access the internet, it won't do most of what a modern OS will.
>In windows you don't have to worry about dependencies. Hello there, the Visual C and Dot Net runtime frameworks want to have a chat with you. But they don't come with the installer, you'll have to download them from a separate website.
Here's a trick: if something requires DotNet, don't install it, it's crap. DotNet is meant for lazy developpers and it uses a sh*t ton of resources for no reason.
Actually Windows now atomatically give you the option to download that dependencies without going to a website, and if you don't have internet conection you can download C or .Net in other PC and pass it with an USB.. Do that with linux that easy... You can't
Then people should be using the one that doesn't charges you 100 dollars to use it, and the safest one too. This video is kinda weak, if you aren't a pretty hardcore gamer that wants to play the newest heaviest games (most people just play league, Fornite or Steam games) or a content creator (probably 80% of the people doesn't fit in these categories) then you will be perfectly fine with Linux.
Damn straight. I cannot BELIEVE Joe has never heard the term DLL Hell. I heard it MANY times before ever hearing of Dependency Hell. That said, it's not an unfair criticism.
Severs run Linux not because of the cost of licences, but because Linux is far more secure, the kernels are updated regularly, and Linux sever is faster like 3 or 4 times faster than windows server.
It is definitely not 3-4 times faster, there might are some very specific tasks where it is much faster, but probably not 3-4 times. For regular stuff it probably is a bit faster on heavy loads however somewhere in the one digit percentage.
My dad's PC had Windows 10. Then, somehow it corrupted it's own partition. Bsod: "NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM". So we put linux on it and he already likes it. *He used to hate linux*
Linux has come leaps and bounds in recent years; the pace of development and improvement is staggering. The story 5 years ago might've been different, but these days, Linux is super easy and comfortable, and better than any other OS in many significant ways. I feel much more at home and don't miss anything about Windows. Never intended to switch, I just found that I liked it better.
Vulcan will most likely replace directX, and more and more games / game engines are becoming portable (meaning OpenGL support by default) anyway. I think MS Windows being "the only viable" gaming platform is, more and more, becoming a thing of the past, and this perception is more of a backwards "this is how we've always done it, so this is how it must be" sort of challenge, rather than a technical one.
As much as I despise Windows, you're right about the shortcomings that Linux has. I mainly use Windows because of the comparability issue you mentioned. But you're 100% right about dependency hell.
TL;DR ---- The better question is: How can more people be introduced to Linux? The main function of any OS is to enable people to do stuff. What kind of person, and what kind of stuff varies. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. When you really boil it down, the main issue in the Linux vs. Windows vs. Mac comparison is 100% of computer users are familiar with Windows (no matter if they use it or not), and a high percentage of computer users know that Mac is a thing (even though most don't use it, and can't afford it). Most computer users do not know about Linux, so that places it at a disadvantage. Just as mentioned in the video, there are perfectly valid and obvious use cases for Linux on the desktop -- such as old hardware, underpowered hardware, custom-built hardware, special-use hardware, nontechie users, and just want to try something different. I think pretty much everyone can agree that if you are heavy into gaming, then Windows is the OS for you. Similarly, if you are heavy into video editing and the like, then Mac is the OS for you. And if you are a computer enthusiast or an advanced/power user, then any or all of the above are good options for you. There are issues with any OS; some more annoying or concerning than others. The difference is that the entire infrastructure of the personal computing industry has built up so much muscle memory in dealing with Windows issues that we don't always recognize them as actual problems. That's why when some people find their way into Linux, it feels like such a breath of fresh air. For example: With installing printers on Windows, you get used to messing around with that printer for 30 minutes (or more) installing drivers and useless bundled software and then restarting and going through all the first-run software nonsense. Then you discover on Linux, that same printer has auto-installed itself and is immediately usable. You then realize how much time and effort you have been wasting. The main gripe with Linux is the unavailability of specific software or specific proprietary drivers. Though, I would argue it is not at all a problem for most users. Even then, this is becoming less of an issue over time, but it is potentially an issue for an interested user. That would change as more people were introduced to Linux. What we should be asking is how can that be accomplished.
Good point. Linsux is not for everyone. Its horrible , dated and meant to be used for computers from the early 90s. Missing packages, drivers failing with updates, installing kernel headers ... 100% copy paste command into terminals. its too much maintenance , so just buy a Macbook and use OS X. Apple has apple care and apple support they will look after you. 👍
Sell refurbished laptops with Linux to students for a superlow price. Get them while they are young and they'll never let it go. Just ask my therapist 😂
I would only buy a linux PC for the cheap price, and after that, install windows on it, i tried most of the distros in VMs and find it way too simple, manual and confuse
I'm 64 and I'm finding Linux easy to learn for exactly the reasons you have stated. I've been a Windows slave for more than 30 years! Linux has set me free!
No mention of GNU/Linux giving you Freedom Mentions changing themes, not installing desktop environments, or different windows managers. Also you can get repositories on DVD. 4/10 desu.
This was a good all-round, pretty subjective video on the subject. I really like it. I'd like to just add Windows updates. There are four disadvantages (that I don't like and I think are really strange) about Windows updates: 1. That by default, it updates without your consent. I've heard that you can determine when to update, but I've also heard that sometimes Windows can override that and still does the update anyway (I don't know, I haven't used Windows in ages). But I hear complaints very often that unexpected updates have caused bad days for some people and it shouldn't be that way. 2. That you can't do anything during updates and installations. On GNU/Linux, updates run in the background and installations can be run while running other applications. On Windows, you seem to have to close all applications and everything that you're doing during an installation. And during Windows updates, the computer is unusable. If you're gonna make me wait for an update to finish, at least give me access to solitaire or to a web browser or to some music. 3. When I update my Firefox, I'm only updating my Firefox. When I'm updating VLC, I'm only updating VLC. When I'm updating Rufus, I'm only updating Rufus. In GNU/Linux, you can update all of them at once, including system services. And another point related to that but just a minor inconvenience, is that Adobe software checks if there are updates available. Your anti-virus checks if there are updates available. It's a good thing solitaire doesn't go check for updates as well. In GNU/Linux, when you check for an update, you check for updates for ALL applications at the same time. So I think it's more compact and time and resource efficient, instead of each software having a mind of its own, checking for updates at different times unknowingly slowing your internet connection. I really can't stand it when I turn on a slow Windows system and must wait for two or three anti-viruses to check for updates (or whatever it is that they do when you turn on a Windows system). 4. The updates are very mysterious. I have no clue what I'm updating. I don't know, I just sit there feeling stupid. Not worthy to be filled in on it. (This is not really a disadvantage. It's just something that I find weird. I prefer knowing what you're going to do with my computer.) I think most of these disadvantages/inconveniences only become apparent to me after having switched to Linux. So maybe, if you have never used Linux, you wouldn't consider these as problems/disadvantages, but sometimes I really do.
For me the best option is to dual-boot Linux and Windows (Mint 19.3 and Win10) on the same computer. This way if some program is not unavailable on Linux and doesn't run properly with Wine, I can just install it on Windows. This also makes a computer more reliable, because if something goes wrong with one of the systems, I can still use another one.
Why use 1 OS if you could use 2?! Obviously you would need to learn both operating systems I mean dual-booting is great especially if you want to have 2 or more operating systems to run on, for example if you want to download something from Windows but you are limited to Linux and uh what distro you use, you could boot up the Windows OS and play it from their that is just an example but the capabilities and possibilities on how you want to use it is endless.
I'm no Linux patriot in any way. There are really only _two_ good reasons why you _must_ use Windows, and _one_ why Linux is not your thing. _1. Games._ _2. Specialized software_ used by the company you work for. _3. You know Windows,_ and Linux is different. That's a problem. However, you can easily install Linux next to Windows and have them both on your computer and see if you like it or not. Since this video was meant to the average user, I have to disagree at some points. I'm a "newbie" to Linux (mint) and Ubuntu, and have used Windows practically throughout my entire life. I like Linux better. *Power* Using a laptop? Linux is far less power hungry than Windows, so your battery lasts longer. Also, it's faster, and doesn't get "tired" over time, like Windows. *Software:* What programs do you have and use in Windows, _by category?_ Linux have them all, just lesser to choose from. And most of them are just as good. So how choosy are you? About any browser but Internet Explorer. Various Office's but MS Office. Photo, music or video editing? Several. The list goes on and on. As mentioned, Linux is _damn much safer, more stable, entirely free, a repository like Apple Store or Google Play and works the same way. And nobody cares about what you do on your computer. Windows 10 is _*_all_*_ about getting as much information about you as possible, which is why it was free for some time._ *Adobe vs Gimp:* I'm not a pro, but am quite familiar with both programs, and _yes_ I find them pretty much equal. Both are damn good, have just about the same number of filters and whatnot. One costs a shitload of money, the other is entirely free. No, you don't need Photoshop _at all,_ unless you're an educated professional who've used it since you begun your Adobe education. Besides that, I agree pretty much with everything *ThioJoe* says. My only big issue with Linux is "the dependency hell", and that I have to read _"how to do"_ this and that in order to make my computer the way I want it to be. But that's because I'm a newbie. Thank you for a good presentation. :)
You have to use Windows because even to today if you want to play the latest Triple A Title, or you want drivers for your wireless card working or whatever hardware you want functioning, it most likely will be only compatible under Windows. Windows is just straight up garbage but because of it's market-share and because it is taught in schools that Windows is functional, developers and hardware manufacturers usually make their products only on Windows, unless an operating system has notoriety like Mac and Linux. This is called network effects. It's not that Windows is so much better than Linux, it's just that Windows even to this day still has the majority of the hardware and software support. Me personally I am FreeBSD guy, I wish all the developers and hardware manufacturers poured all their support towards FreeBSD. For developers to recognize FreeBSD it has to have a large user-base. How to get lots of people using FreeBSD? You have to improve it's hardware and software compatibility where it's user-friendly enough. You see the cycle? The only way FreeBSD will ever be popular is through MacOS, since MacOS uses lots of FreeBSD code particularly in their kernel and user-space. But MacOS has a closed platform, Apple's business practices are very anti-consumer. You can't run MacOS applications on FreeBSD for example. If MacOS was free and open-source or had a more platform it would be beneficial to everyone because lots of people hate Windows. There is still a huge demand for an alternative to Windows. Linux and MacOS are not getting it done. And how the market works no niche OS like Amiga or Haiku is just suddenly going to become popular. If someone can convince Apple to change their ways, or at least make MacOS a complete fork of FreeBSD that would be beneficial too =).
I'm a linux user, and have been for 15 years. I don't run Windows anywhere except in Virtual Machines and on computers I don't personally control (i.e. at work). This comment is pretty accurate, but I would offer a few thoughts. 1. Games - This is highly dependent on the games you want. There are a lot of AAA titles available via Steam on Linux these days. Tomb Raider, Rocket League (Maybe not technically AAA, but soo much fun I had to list it. Also 100% cross platform online play!!), Hitman, Civilization, Deus Ex, Mad Max, DiRT Rally, Dying Light, Borderlands 2, and more. Don't even get me started on the number of titles from smaller studios that are available. The Linux Steam Integration package developed by Ikey from the Solus distro (Available as a Snap for other distros) really takes things up a notch. Sure, there are also some huge titles that don't appear on Linux and that's a shame, but that's why I have an Xbox. If I'm going to play games in a non-free environment I want it to just work everytime with no effort even if it means sacrificing some visual fidelity. ;) Power: I have actually seen much the opposite. While Linux based Operating Systems have the potential to run more efficiently, they often fail at this. At least out of the box. Installing a few utilities (TLP and PowerTOP) and configuring them correctly will help, but generally speaking power management for laptops is one of the areas that is pretty terrible. Hardware vendors are as much to blame for this as the software developers. I wish I had the knowledge to contribute to making it better, but I don't have the free time to learn. Adobe vs GIMP: This comes down to a matter of preference, but also cost/value evaluation. I can do anything I need to with GIMP. I started on Photoshop with Photoshop 7 and have newer versions off and on over the years via student licensing deals. If I were a professional photographer who was constantly re-touching photos I would spring for Photoshop and run it in a Windows VM. The main reason is the time savings afforded by the much more advanced builtin tools. I generally spend my time working images for websites and programming projects, so I prefer to save my money and just stick with GIMP. Also of note are Inkscape, Krita, and one of my most used applications lately Gravit Designer (A must have for anyone doing any sort of UI mockups/prototyping.) @Owen Kanaway - "You have to use Windows because even to today if... you want drivers for your wireless card working or whatever hardware you want functioning, it most likely will be only compatible under Windows." I just haven't seen that to be an issue in the last few year. Really not for at least 5. I haven't had any hardware support issues in what seems like forever. Mind you, I started using Linux back in 2002 and wireless drivers werea mess, graphics acceleration worked like black magic (Xorg/Xf86 conf editing) requiring just the right card/driver/kernel and manual recompilation on updates, audio was similar, and don't get me started on configuring mice or trackpads (particularly with extra buttons and scrollwheels). There are some edge cases, and sometimes distros don't update to provide the drivers you want immediately, sure. Overall the major hardware vendors have gotten really good about providing drivers and kernel patches where necessary to support new hardware from day 0. I'm not a FreeBSD person, but I do appreciate the way they handle things. I wouldn't mind seeing a concerted effort to turn it into a more competitive desktop operating system. Like you said though, it's a Catch-22 scenario. This is the reason I've really liked seeing how a few newer distros have been handling integration. Solus and Elementary are great examples of how a solid focus on consistency and internal integration can yield a much better product than many of the distros that have come before.
@Jeremy Coleman Thank you for taking the time to reply in such detail, much appreciated. As I said, I am relatively a "newbie" and was actually wondering if I was wrong when I wrote about _power._ Reason being that either my "old" laptop battery have gotten worse, or Linux Mint is draining it (or both). I didn't know that CIV was possible to play on Linux? The only reason I kept windows for so long, was _because_ of Civ V! I enjoy privacy, so I always wanted to use Linux. So using Windows X bothered me a lot. I don't have facebook (well, I _do,_ but it's completely empty, and I never visit it), and though I'm commenting frequently, and am "all over the place" on the internet, I always keep my username and real name separated, and my real name to a minimum on the internet. _(I guess you would too if your first name was as rare as mine)._
Philosophilia Well as a Linux patriot I can tell you I started using Linux only for gaming on only once i started programming i started using it as my main OS
I moved my mother across to Linux from Windows, this was quite painless as she mainly used Firefox, Thunderbird and LibreOffice under Windows, so it wasn't exactly a huge leap for the applications. When it came to the interface, I gave her an AlmaLinux system which I custom-skinned to look and work a bit like her other machine - an Acorn RISC OS box!
Windows gets worse over time. Linux gets better over time. Even though I am a gamer, I still use Linux Ubuntu. Not because of better fps, it doesn't get better fps. But it runs wayyyyyy more stable. If you try Linux for a short time, you're gonna say it sucks. If you try it for a year, you'll love it. That's because it takes longer to get stable, but once you're done, it'll last you longer.
Windows gets worse over time. - nonsense I started with Windows 95 which was ok then Windows ME which was crappy...now on Windows 10 which has been a solid stable OS. Ive felt no need to dable with Linux nowadays
I've been used Linux for 3 years. Here is my experience: - Windows: I always have 100% disk issue. That is bad - Windows: control panel is too complicated. New windows 10 has new interface, but it is worse: it is like old style mixes with new style. I've tried Cinnamon, Gnome3, XFCE, MATE on Linux and there is no complicate control panel (Settings, ... just the name) - Linux: Graphic drivers may not as good as windows. p/s: I am using Debian based distro.
Very nice & fair review. My problem is that I like Windows 7, I like Windows 10, and I like various Linux distros, so I waste far too much time switching from one to another.
The day that there is a linux distro that runs all windows programs flawlessly then maybe more of us will jump ship.There is a reason why most of the world are using windows and not Linux or MacOS because most of the software and stuff we use does not work on Linux or does not work well. So we are aware of the advantages of Linux but until Linux can run everything we want without searching for drivers or updates, we are stuck with Windows. Compatabilty is king.
Most Windows users who try to compare Linux to Windows have very little knowledge of what they're actually talking about which is a disservice to people who are actually considering making the switch. Conversely, many dried in the wool Linux users are too elitist to make a convincing argument to convince novice users to try Linux. I've been using Linux for 15 plus years now, exclusively, and haven't missed Windows once. I don't think I'm superior to anyone who chooses Windows (or macOS), rather; I find that Linux suits my needs just fine and so I simply don't need to deal with Microsoft's Windows or its automatic updates or activation issues. I'd never touch an Apple product.
Same here, I still need Windows where I work, but I prefer Linux over Windows - no activation, lower resource use, no viruses to worry about at the moment, can carry it with you on a flash drive if you want, encryption is very good, you get the full space of hard drives to use, not missing out on 10% with Windows to name just a few. I am not an expert by any means, but I have found something that meets my needs and I use it. Give it a try and if you like it, use it or put it next to Windows so you have a choice on booting up. Good post and I haven't touched Apple at all myself.
Windows is popular because it is very easy and intuitive plus loads of software out there. Very popular among gamers since vid card makers won't write decent or any code for linux. You listening nVidia?
Most Linux users who try to convince people that Windows is bad have no idea what they are talking about either, such as using arguments that were true to XP era to bash on Windows 10. They then lie that Wine is some almighty tool that you can run all Windows programs you need with little effort. In reality its a nightmare that requires shitloads of tweaking for every individual program and hardly ever works.
@@rytisliaucys3444 Well, I never had to do "shitloads of tweaking" since Wine 3.0 and it runs most of the software I need (not Pro Tools, but... it sucks anyway). So, "hardly ever works", nope, sorry, I don't think you would say that if you used Wine recently, even if it's subjective. I've never seen anyone pretend that Wine runs "all" Windows programs, btw.
@@readysetreact1345 You have 36 comments on this channel, and 100% of those are on this video saying how Windows is better lol Also, Linux is an upgrade to Windows lol. If I wanna run Windows software, I'll just use VMWare to virtualize Windows, and it performs close to native speeds.
For new Linux users, I recommend Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Both aim for ease of use and achieve this to a point where they offer Windows XP to Windows 7-level ease of use, easily, without going too far in that direction the way hand-holdy, overly locked-down Windows 10 goes.
I would never recommend Ubuntu because of the gnome desktop environment that it has as default is horribly and I know you can change it but newcomers wouldn't know how and I had a lot of problems with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS the UI was buggy and it didn't recognize my screen because of some strange problem with laptops. And on top of that the GNOME desktop was consuming a lot of RAM. I think there are better distros for newcomers
My 2 cents, 1. Compatibility? Using Linux needs open minded perspective. Adobe Creative Cloud isn't available, but many alternatives are available and comparable in feature sets (and some are not even free, and it's running on Linux). 2. Installing software in Linux is easy, and mostly are automatic process, here's an example, in my OpenSuSE installation, when I want to install Webmin, all I do is type in 'rpm -ivh webmin.rpm' and it will install webmin with only the rpm file (similar to a .cab file in windows), and you can run this rpm file OFF a flashdisk. Yes, there are times where you need other pieces of softwares (dependencies) but if you install your Linux-with-everything-checked, most of the time you won't get dependency requirement (most are already installed). 3. Dependency hell is close to non-existent these days. Repos can be cloned, and in Windows, there is something similar to dependency hell, it's called DLL hell, and this is also VERY RARE, so as dependency hell. And don't forget the times when Microsoft installer hung on installing .Net framework dependency prior the main software install (though this happens very rarely these days). 4. "I shouldn't have to figure it out, it should just work", I'm not saying that I don't agree with this, but everything has it's own unique way of "working". Just because you are familiar to Windows doesn't make it Linux FAIL automatically, and vice versa for people who are familiar with Linux and repos will tell Windows users as outdated and old, why would you need to install a software by downloading a file, then installing it? And if the software requires a dependency (like .Net Framework version XX), at times it will just throw out some cryptic error message. The software should just INSTALL, and it just works in Linux (tragically, Windows is indeed very very "old-fashioned" in this regard). Even our phones does this automagically, Wiindows by default doesn't do this - except you install your software through a marketplace (Windows Store, or Steam). Well, the argument about "An application install in Windows just works" depends on a very specific perspective of your view as a user. If downloading an "installer" works for you, then there you go vice versa for Linux user, an "apt-get some_software" is MUCH EASIER and more efficient than downloading an "installer". Each has it's own quirk. I personally prefer the modern way of Linux Repository, Windows is outdated and old IMHO. 5. Switching to other operating system are most of the time will require a learning curve. Keep an open mind. 6. Not all software are available in Windows, netdata is one of those sofwares (google it). And it provides information in a way that no Windows application can provide.
This is a little old video, but I want to share a story why I originally switched to linux. I had a cheap laptop with windows 7, maybe 4GB RAM and 128GiB SSD but poor processor. Also the fan worked poorly, I literally had to blow air into it so it would start running, and without it the laptop quickly overheated. I played a game that existed both on windows and linux platforms, and I had very low FPS, often going to 5 FPS or below. Then also the windows grew over time, and at the point where I got tired of the crap, It was 37GB! That's one fourth of what I had! Then I installed Ubuntu 16.04. Suddenly everything ran smoothly, system booted up in 4 SECONDS, OS didn't take crazy amount of space, only few GiB. While security is important, for common user it is not something you see, so it is harder to realize its importance. But what really made me love Linux, was when I started up my game. OS didn't waste my resources on anything, and the game ran easily with at least 3 times higher FPS. That's MASSIVE performance boost. So definitely worth the change, at least if you have little resources
You must have had a core i3 or worse cpu. Linux is a CPU hog but doesn't use much RAM (unless you are trying to move large files via usb then it hogs both cpu AND ram). Just experience that over the past 3 months. I tried the same with win xp and it did not drag down the computer like Linux did. From last I heard the woman who was working on the USB3 project for linux quit that job. This is why Linux STINKS when it comes to USB speeds. And an easy way to turn write caching on and off WITHOUT command line is dang near impossible. Linux says it is does transferring but it IS NOT DONE. It still has to flush the cache BEFORE removing a usb device. Windows I have not experienced that problem. Done is done in windows. Done is 'well I say it is done by really I am lying and you still have to wait' in Linux. I had to edit some file in Linux just to get it to NOT use all my ram when doing file transfers via usb. Linux is still superior to windows but you have to give credit where credit is due.
@@crazysquirrel9425 I think you've swapped around CPU and RAM in your second sentence, "Linux is a CPU hog but doesn't use much RAM". The rest of your rant makes more sense with those the other way around. My Linux uses 5% CPU when watching TH-cam, with the CPU running at 1 GHz (out of 4 GHz, so it also saves energy and produces less heat). An old computer I had, which had Intel Atom, was so slow on Windows (7) that it wouldn't play Minecraft at 2 fps. Linux did at 20, with other programs also open. This guy had a sluggish hard drive, and with just 1 GB of RAM the caching didn't help a lot either, but still, Linux was just so much faster. Caching files is not hogging up any RAM, actually. If some program demands RAM but all of it is taken up by cache, Linux will quickly (as quickly as possible, which is maybe not that quickly) write the cache to the disk and give the freed up RAM to the program. Right now, I have 5 GB of RAM being used for cache, while 3 GB is used by programs. This means that 8 GB (out of 16 GB) of RAM is unused, but 13 GB is _free._ Caching considerably speeds up read/write speeds. This caching does mean that writes will be "done" sooner than they are _done_, but this also has the advantage that the "written" data can be used already while it's still only in the cache. Linux will have simulated writing the data perfectly and while you can already use the data as if it were on there, and it will be silently writing the rest of it in the background and emptying the cache. If you want to copy huge amounts of data without using the cache, the rsync command may help. If you don't want to use the command line, then why are you even using Linux? Okay, the desktop is fine for most things, but even GUIs will be made by people who expect you to know something of the command line. (except for newer releases of Ubuntu) Your other issue is another case of PEBKAC: you have to unmount drives before unplugging them. This will flush the cache and prohibit any further accesses to the drive, letting you safely remove it. It will tell you when it's safe to remove, either by the umount command finishing or by a notification on your desktop. People were not doing this, so Windows disabled caching for removable drives by default. Linux assumes the user is smart enough to unmount before unplugging. The data will still be written as quickly as possible, and if you don't plan to unplug the drive, then it will make it seem like it is faster (as fast as RAM, really). If you do want to unplug it, it is equally fast as Windows. I've never had any issue with slow USB speeds on Linux. By the way, Windows also caches non-removable drives. Lastly, your exaggerated use of double newlines and caps is disgusting, annoying, and hard to read. Try *TH-cam* _formatting_ instead of -caps.- ... but thanks for your opinion. I also appreciate your final sentence. ... and I thank every reader who has just read all of this.
@@fghsgh I do not appreciate your intent to flame me (PEBCAK), And my post is not a rant (derogatory term). By the use of those in your post you invalidated your entire post. In my years of experience I KNOW Linux uses far more CPU than memory. My CPU is frequently maxed out while I only use barely 3gb ram out of 8. It has been this way sine I used linux for years now. My reasons for using linux are many and I detest having to use command line for squat. Any linux hardliners or Microsoft haters or Linux developers who attempt to ridicule or force others to use command line when command line should be optional are just zealots. If linux truly wants to succeed then the command line is an OUT and should be a vague OPTION for geeks. People do NOT want to learn complex and very very picky syntax to do command line. ONE letter off and you wipe out an entire hard drive. Right now I am using 34% ram (3 browsers, 5 tabs) and cpu drops to 7% if I don't do anything at all. But when click on a single thing and the cpu usage skyrockets. If I do large file transfers the CPU is maxed out while ram is barely used. Data transfers to a flash drive or external hard drive with linux claim to be complete when they are far from being complete. That is a LIE when it says it is done and it isn't. People can lose precious data that way not to mention their valuable time. RSYNC is too complicated even for me. Too risky too. Copy/Paste is what I need and so does nearly everyone else out there. Give me a GUI that is easy and uses RSYNC and I will check it out. NO GUESSWORK. NO REMEMBERING JUNK to get it to do what I want to do. You see that is why Windows is such a nice setup. It is very intuitive and easy to use (but is full of built in spyware and prone to breakage). Linux is superior to the others because it is robust and immune to 99% of windows malware right now. But it is not easy nor intuitive for the vast majority of people out there. Oh and remember not everyone can type well either. I hate to type a lot of useless junk (hence the reason why I don't bother with HTML or C++ or similar complex syntax and such) to get things done when I can point and click to do it and do something else in the meantime. Windows says a transfer is done then it is DONE. Linux lies about it (cache flushing which you CANNOT easily turn off permanently or temporarily) and you have NO way to know if it is finished or not - you have to guess and hope and PRAY that you didn't lose anything. I transfer a file in WIndows (xp or 7) and the transfer speed is significantly HIGHER than the same file transfer in linux. So I dual boot with XP and Linux. Linux is best suited for internet ONLY due to the higher security. Not worth much for anything else. Speaking of linux security - the ownership and permissions stink. I want every file on my data drive to be accessible by anything and everything. Been down THAT road. Redo linux or switch to another linux and NO ACCESS to my own files. I am stuck using NTFS for data drives. Or sometimes FAT32. Can't do linux drive encryption either for that reason. Plug in a new drive and Linux automatically assigns ownership and such. Having to go back and FIX it for normal use is a pain. Now please stop trying to place blame on me and place it on the linux developers who insist people learn command line if they want to decently use linux.
@@crazysquirrel9425 Oh yeah you say you like Linux because it is secure but if you put it on NTFS you give up all security. I had actually a full response ready for your last comment but I didn't save it and rebooted the computer so I lost it. No access to your own files -> change your user ID. Some distros even let you do that in a GUI. A command line is, for setting obscure settings, much more efficient than a GUI. And don't tell me you've never wanted to rename a bunch of files at once.
Well spoken, and fairly too. But I downloaded Linux Mint and to my surprise it work very well and it really does look interesting. Had it's own type of 'Office' so I'm looking forward to using it. Keep up the good reviews; thanks!
The main advantage is security, including entire drive encryption for most distros. The fact that its free means you can spend more money on the hardware and end up with a nicer machine. Linux Mint basically does have everything Windows has or an alternative to that. It's layout is just a tad bit better then Ubuntu. The Cinnamon desktop is nicer and easier to use then gnome 3.
I used Windows since I was 8 years old. Neighbors had given us an old desktop computer that ran Windows 95. So I learned some DOS and used Windows for the next 15 years. In my 20s I got tired of my laptops inexplicably crashing and never working again, so I bought a cheap chromebook, just to stop spending money on computers. I have to say the ChromeOS is really intuitive and I like it. The only real drawback is the lack of compatibility. It's the only things that regularly frustrates me. At the same time that frustration is balanced out by ease of use and security. I like it so much that I've started to learn more about Linux. Now, mind, I am a bit of a technophobe and a luddite and know little about computers, but even I can see that Linux is better, and hopefully, if more people got interested in it, then its biggest drawback, lack of compatibility and software, will be solved.
Actually look it up a Chromebook can run a standard Linux environment with a terminal might want to check that out you might be able to install some stuff
I have a laptop with Windows 7. I can't connect to the wifi in ANY public library, I can connect to wifi found elsewhere. I've had numerous people try to help me, we've tried everything. Then one guy put in a Linux boot disc and was able to easily connect to the Wifi at the public library. Yeah, Linux can do it, Windows could not. What the Hell? I like Linux, but don't want to learn a new OS. Incompetent Microsoft is forcing me to change. I used to have a Laptop with windows 10 also. It was stolen. As I recall I wasn't able to connect to the Library wifi with it either. I was using a different wifi available from nearby, but now you need password or something so I can't. I connect to the network, but the login screen will not come up no matter what. only works in Linux.
My first computer was a Commodore VIC-20... because it was new back then... not an eBay find... That's when computers made you think...Now just point and click... IF it doesn't do EVERYTHING for you, it's no good.
I'm switching to Linux after having Windows 10 updates screw up my PC several times within the last 6 months or so. I will only be keeping Windows 10 installed for games I can't play on Linux (including things WINE doesn't run well). The only reason to use Windows IMO is if you're not very computer literate/tech savvy or you have software or a job that requires you to use Windows.
Well, I currently use Windows 10 on my Dell Inspiron 22 3264 all-in-one desktop PC, which is my primary computer, and Linux Mint 19 "Sylvia" on my Lenovo IdeaCentre B320 7760-3CU all-in-one desktop PC, which is my secondary computer.
My dad used to call me several times per month when he had Windows (8 & 8.1 on the most recent system). It got incredibly slow after 2-2.5 years, so I talked him into Linux Mint (I had misplaced my Ubuntu drive and was to lazy to re-download at 5mbps). That was 4 years ago and I've received 0 tech support calls since. I did have to show him around Linux once, but, despite using Windows 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, not ME, XP, Vista (briefly before having me install XP), 7, 8, & 8.1 over at least 20 years, he took to it like a fish takes to water. I really think ThioJoe is underestimating Linux. Also, who does that many offline installs? Even when I've done offline installs, it really isn't difficult and I've only needed to install dependencies once. A lot of Windows programs have dependencies too, like Adobe air. I like dependencies. If I need a dependency for two programs, you avoid installing two copies for no reason.
So much this. Changed my GF's PC over from Windows Vista when it ran out of support by Microsoft, to Linux Mint XFCE. Zero problems. That good, I used a Dell Optiplex with a HDMI card that also used to run Vista, converted to Linux Mint Cinnamon. Bought a wireless keyboard. Voila, full blown PC through a TV with VICE, Kodi, and MAME. Bloody fantastic, she loves it.
My wife is a writer and cannot connect a monitor to save her life. Hated win 10. I put Linux mint on her computer and she loves it along with WPS office.
@DeathNote laptop Linux traditionally required TLP to maximize battery lifetime. Agreed not ideal. However recent versions are more and more battery capable, indeed I was listening to a respected Linux device/podcaster recently talking about achieving 12hr battery life on one of his machines.
Christian Weissmuller Well it’s more of a want and not a need. You see, you don’t need a computer on your phone but most people wanted one when it was first introduced. Before that people were still making phone calls with ease. So yea, you got a phone, you don’t need to spend more of your hard earned money on a smartphone. It’s just a luxury, and now that the prices are a staggering 1000$ for some bullshit ass Apple phone, I’ll just stick to my Samsung S4(best phone I’ve ever owned).
Actually OpenGL is a better graphics platform but overall I think DirectX is a better API. Games on Linux run worst because lack of driver support; However some games actually run just as good if not better on Linux so it depends.
I love both. I don't feel the need to religiously hate one and worship another like a damn cult. That's why I distance myself from the Linux community. They're all lunatics.
Linux (PROS) - most stable, free software (depending on version but most all are free), breathes new life into older computers due to the much LOWER demand on resources (requires far less CPU power and MAYBE 4gb ram to work comfortably.), Linux (most anyway) are free and you can try them without installing them, linux leaves NO traces on your computer if you do not install it, has no preinstalled spyware, most work 'out of the box', fairly EASY to install for most versions (a few clicks needed, and most auto install everything including partitioning), HIGHLY MALWARE RESISTANT, a little harder to hack (most weaknesses are in the browsers just like windows has), and many other benefits), does NOT need to be defragmented. Linux can be run from Flash drive (best) or CD/DVD/BD disk (a bit slower). Laptop battery life is longer between charges depending on version and use. You can easily spoof hardware ID's (see forums on methods). Offers KDE desktop and Cinnamon Desktop both are generally 'full featured'. Linux OS upgrades are usually free. Linux (CONS) - lack of drivers for *SOME* computers, Not as good for some of the hardline games younger people like to play (just get an XBox or similar if that is your issue), Lack of compatibility with Windows (some exceptions though - office related items usually have no problem going back and forth), once in a while you *MIGHT* need to do command line but rarely if ever, most should have a minimal amount on computer using experience (at least know how to point and click anyway). Linux is best for machines about 3 years old or older but not more than a machine that used to run XP. Puppy Linux may still be able to run older systems. The older the computer or less resources it has the lower the desktop version needed for comfortable use (KDE is the top one) WIndows (PROS) - Most compatible with other Windows software and systems. Best probably for new computer users just learning. Most things are fully automated. VAST amount of software out there for Windows (Linux has a lot less available but they do cover most common software desires) works better than Linux for heave graphics gameplay (but MAC beats BOTH for graphics items). Windows (CONS) - RESOURCE HOG (many windows need at least 8gb ram to 32gb ram to work comfortably and a core i5 or better CPU), PREINSTALLED SPYWARE AND MALWARE (under the guise of being *necessary* for YOUR protection, easier to hack. allows other companies including governments to see much of what you do and allow THEM to control some of what you can and cannot do, Microsoft can lock you out of your own data and possibly your own computer. Requires antimalware program, antivirus program, and destroys any semblance of privacy you might expect. MANY CONS for windows. Windows usually can not be run from Disc or Flash Drive, lower laptop battery life (more frequent charging needed). Allows everyone out there to access your hardware ID's unless you take extraordinary steps to block them and such ID's can track you everywhere. You usually have to pay for OS upgrades and most software. On dual booting, Windows DEMANDS it comes first on the hard drive and then you could install linux as a dual boot. Note: About Mac. Mac is a CLOSED SOURCE version of Linux. It too is filled with the same spyware issues that windows has and is far less compatible with windows than linux is (read/write/format NTFS is one issue most have). MAC is far superior to all other operating systems when it comes to graphics development. Mack is VERY VERY resistant to some issues (due to the BIOS they use). Much depends on who you are and what you intend to use the computer for. However, if all you do is general online things like youtube, emails, surfing, chatting, browser based flash games, similar, more privacy, linux is best. Gameplay - Windows. Graphics - Mac. I have converted others to Linux over the years and all but ONE never went back. Reason? Proprietary medical software that demands Windows Only. BeOS is the most hack resistant operating system ever built. But NOT for new computer users. It generally takes a computer user with loads of time to learn and know command line. Qubes OS is OK but requires a LOT of fiddling to get to use it. Not recommended for less than computer 'experts'. Penetration System versions of Linux also takes a masters degree (kidding) to use. VERY HARD to use. Linux stands for Lite Unix for those who didn't know. Unix is the most common commercial server used on the planet. Microsoft is working on open source items for it's operating system. Have to wait and see how they can incorporate that. Just some food for thought from my personal experience and reading common things about each. Security note about the government - no system is immune to being spied on by the 'Five Eyes'. NSA uses 'air gap' among other tools that go right through the best defenses. Many hardware components now have built in government spyware on the hardware itself. Not even BeOs is immune (but that depends). So not worth trying to do things you shouldn't do with a computer. What people need to focus on usability for their specific needs and to take steps to keep commercial and private adversaries OUT of your business. Identity theft - stealing your money is bad enough but stealing your FREEDOM (committing crimes under your identity) can be devastating. Avoid Windows as much as you can for that reason.
Notice: Using a live version of Linux will NOT protect you from Law Enforcement (only slows them down a bit). It DOES however make it very hard for your spouse to find anything (wink) lol Windows ALWAYS keeps things even if it says it does not.
My daughter was about to throw away a Dell Latitude laptop from 2008 or so with a 70gb HDD and non-functioning Win7. I was looking for a second laptop, but couldn't justify the price of a new one. £32 for a 250gig SSD, Ubuntu at first and then Linux Cinnamon later, and the damn thing is as fast as my main laptop running Win 10. I only use it for internet, home network and writing professionally but I prefer it. I have a desktop with my main programmes so have little need for them on my laptops.
@@WritewheelUK Go try Mx Linux 17.1. Talk about fast and smooooth..... Even videos seem to look better when watching them. I just tried Mint 18.3 - HATED IT. Looked too much like win10 and far too hard to do much. Couldn't even sort desktop icons! I tried Robolinux. It too was pretty quick BUT typing in web pages it typed BACKWARDS (but not in all web pages) and it had other issues. I think you will certainly like Mx Linux 17.1.
Excellent Post, couldn't have said it better myself. The best advice is to tweak your computer to do what you want it to do. I don't play any real computer games myself, save for Solitaire, Chess and things like that, which are on both Windows and Linux. What I would like is for Linux to have it so that it's Office system would open up on Microsoft so I could do work on Linux and then send it to coworkers who use Windows and they could open it up and work on it. That is my only gripe with Linux. If you haven't tried a Linux based OS, try it, you will be amazed at how easy it operates and to use.
sorry gotta play devils advocate here, windows doesn't take 8 gigs of ram, and an i5, I ran a windows 10 laptop that had a shitty quad 2012 i3 at 2.4 GHz and 4 gigs of 1333 ram, your statement is objectively false and misleading, not everyone is a code money either, and some people just want to plug and play stuff like on windows. yes, there is a place for windows, yes there is a place for Linux, even a place for Mac users, it's just what people are comfortable with and can adapt to become comfortable with. I am very tech savvy, hardware, and software, I tried for a month to use Linux, but i personally found it annoying that there isn't just an "update button" or to access something I have to type in code in the command line, again, for some people this is fine, but for your average person they just want something for word processing and gaming, not everyone wants the most open source thing, some people want simplicity.
@@jadoo782002able I run both Windows 7 and Windows 10 on Virtual Machine and boy, Windows 10 is so slow, laggy and takes forever for anything to load up. Windows 7 takes up for less RAM, and it is very smooth in virtual machine, everything is very quick and snappy.
I just installed Linux Mint 19 on one of my machines. In the dew days I have had it running I am well pleased. It's a bit quirky in some areas but I guess they'll become normal soon. The main reason for this 'trial' is extreme hatred of Windows 10 which I seek to avoid at all costs. On that issue, I am so far unaware of any company - corporation - that is using Windows 10.
Every company running a Windows environment should be running Win10 on their workstations. The exploits on earlier version would represent a huge risk to their enterprise. Win10 is the primary workstation OS in the Federal Enterprise.
Most schools use Windows 10 on everything but their Chromebooks (obviously) for no particular reason that I see. I think they do that for compatibility reasons. That said, a lot of the programs that I see teachers use (with the exception of those who teach stuff about computers) do have alternatives on Debian/Ubuntu. (Linux Mint is a nice combination of Debian and Ubuntu :) )
Yes installing software offline on Linux can be a huge pain but that can change with Snaps, Flatpak and AppImage cuz all dependencies can be stored in single .snap, .flatpak and .appimage. Users can simply download .snap for example from website like .exe and run it and it will install offline using Gnome Software as it supports .snap and .flatpak. More and more Linux distros are starting to support Snaps and Flatpak.
@MissRiaElaine Fedora, Cent OS and Ubuntu are backed by enterprises -> Red hat & Canonical. I'd recommend a non-enterprise distro like Solus or Deepin.
Been using Linux distros since 2014 (Ubuntu -> a fork of Linux, Chrome OS -> Linux Mint 18) and minus the lack of Adobe stuff, I can't say I'm too limited. I have Firefox and Chrome, GIMP, Krita, LibreOffice... Yes, everything a Windows machine can do, without Microsoft all up in my business. (I don't use iOS, so no iTunes either is NOT a deal breaker for me)
I wouldn't call Ubuntu a fork of Linux, just software that uses Linux. A fork of Linux would be something like the Linux-zen kernel. But I'm happy you found a combination of software you're comfortable with. ^^
@J W I can see you never have been trapped in dependency hell. Dependency hell is not a big problem these days because most distros now "ship" with most of the common dependencies by default and if one is required it is easy to get them installed. But back in the day, it used to be a huge problem especially if you didn't have an internet connection. Linux is a completely different animal these days!
Personally have experienced this multiple times on both windows 7 and 10. Haven't experienced dependency hell for years, in fact it was only once or twice on an older version of Ubuntu (14.04). On Arch, I've never really experienced dependency hell. If I'm missing a dependency of a software in it's repos or the AUR, it'll either install them for me (and ask if I want to uninstall afterwards if they aren't required to run the software) or it will list them out for me to install them myself. ez
I've used linux for over a year and I have not ONCE, ever heard of dependency hell. I always use the repos and it works amazing. In my opinion its easyer than installing on windows. Also I used to hate uninstalling software on windows, you could olny do one at a time
Of course he was talking about it in about the only scenario in which it might occur these days - installing on a computer that isn't connected to the internet. It was something that was way more likely to occur many years ago. I remember going through dependency hell like 15 years ago when trying to install software that wasn't available directly from the distro I was using. It would go something like this: run the installer. it would say that there were dependencies x, y, and z. It wouldn't tell you that dependency x was part of some other package with a completely different name. It wouldn't tell you that dependency y had 5 dependencies of its own. It wouldn't tell you that you already had dependency z, just a newer version. All of that is highly unlikely now. I also thought it was funny when he said that he had never heard of anything like that on windows. Well, maybe he is a bit too young to have experienced it, but when dependency hell was an actual thing, Windows had DLL hell. Maybe he should do a little more research before he makes claims like that.
Linux is better for security, old computers who have trouble running Windows, a lightweight system to get basic(or advanced perhaps) things done, or generally the freedom Windows doesn't provide Windows is better for better Steam games support and all those goodies you can't do on Linux Still, Linux(or GNU/Linux for ya FSF diehards) is a very capable OS, and can stand daily use pretty well(It is my main OS)
GuastGaming & More A. Windows may be able to run on old computers, but then you’ll really be feeling the Age. Linux, however, runs smoothly on virtually all systems. B. No.... antivirus doesn’t protect you from everything. Powershell and a zero-day can best any antivirus. However, on Linux, no Hacker is going to bother developing a zero-day, as it’s not worth it.
I can relate. I have a Pentium D like computer and Linux is a lot faster than Windows, maybe because my installation had many background programs start on login
Dhm John my laptop has only 2 gb of ram, and Linux makes it running exceptionally fast, probably going to try parrot OS, heard it’s extremely light-weight
Parrot OS isn't exactly the most light-weight, though it will probably fine and has certain advantages. The problem you start to get into when you want to be really light-weight is that you have to do a lot of the things your distro would normally do automatically yourself with really minimal distro. That's usually not necessary if you just want something to work decently on an old computer.
Yep, you said that right, dependencies problems literally suck but only when there's no internet otherwise "Sudo apt install -f" works I don't understand why one would even use a desktop without internet... Lol 🤷♂️ That's not a problem at all. I am in love with linux, I am using it for 5 years.
Linux can't do all Windwos can - it fails miserably to run viruses.
Hahahahaha!! I don't see how you didn't have any thumbs ups!! That was a good one!!
@Keyser Söze i didn't get it? I use chrome everyday in linux
@Keyser Söze firefox is the default browser and it runs it better than windows and mac combined🤣🤣🤣
@Keyser Söze 100 different distros can't run the browsers that were created on Linux distros. Have you actually switched a Linux box on during the last 15 years?
@Keyser Söze I run firefox, chrome and have played with Midori. I'm not sure what your comment is based on. None of the distros I have ever run fail to load those browsers. Which "distros" have given you this "hellish" experience.
When you install Windows 10, you have to agree to Microsoft's terms and conditions.
When you get a mac, you agree to Apple's terms and conditions.
When you install Linux, it agrees to YOUR terms and conditions.
When you install Linux Communism, you agree to OUR terms and conditions.
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@@KSPAtlas good one lol imagine linux made by Soviet Union
On linux, I can update all my software at once. I can't do that on Windows.
EDIT: Left this comment for one year, wasn't expecting this many comments. Wow.
updating all your software at once is what breaks the system, and when something fails you don't know which package caused it. Linsucks have missing packages, drivers fail after updates + dated GUI... you will spend %100 of your time copy pasting commands into a terminal. Mac & Windows Just work.
Imodium funny, that has never happened to me. It's literally selecting a list of updates for all the software on the computer, with the option to update all your software at once. If I have a 5-year outdated system running Linux, I can just update the whole thing in a few steps. With Windows, updating is a huge project. And drivers are almost never an issue on Linux, with most things working out of the box and never breaking. I don't know what experience you had, but it certainly is far from my experience and likely that of many people.
@@депрессивныйстудент True that.
Not to mention you can update it whenever you want, and it doesn't take 40 fucking years to do it, or require restarts in the middle of the updates, you can literally just "sudo poweroff" at the end of the updates and power back on if you even NEED to restart. Of course if there's a linux kernel update or a new version of your distro (say you're on a rolling distro for example) then yeah, that would require a restart
On windows, I can play all the new games on steam. I can also CHOOSE when I wanna update (I mean its pretty easy tbh) I don't have to worry about forgetting a line of code. I don't have to spend hours setting up my system. I can program in nice apps. I can play Roblox.
"Linux can't run viruses" - Wine: You understimate my power.
Actually, this is both false. In order for an EXE file to run on Linux, it must be prompted to be opened by a user through wine. This must be done because wine like every other Linux program must be prompted by either a scripted or a user, before it can start up. So no, it will not act as a back door unless you open up a virus yourself.
And you still need to have installed Wine, witch is not installed by default because most of the daily use software are available on Linux.
Wine are for tech savy people, not for commons user.
@Vukašin Đurić Đura except those components are open source software that perform similar functions while running a program in wine, but ultimately are not Microsoft software or from Windows.
Drinking too much is never good
Okay I liked this one.
Does linux ask you to install candy crush? No? Case closed
Parrott Gaming Do you mean win?
@@readysetreact1345You said linux sucks, I thought you might have meant windows, so I asked
@@readysetreact1345*clarifying
Windows doesn't even ask, too. It just installs it alongside other crappy bloatware.
yeh candy crush, nuff said! install linux no brainer
Windows: Microsoft uses 99% of your resources
Linux: you using 99% of resources
Correct.
Nice one
@Windows Alternative you can overclock it. Dig deeper on the matter ;)
Quest 64 hmm I think I might make a virus for that.
Yeah linux usually uses 1% of my cpu
dude the architecture of Linux is far more stable and secure
Truth.
True. The filesystem is a smart setup.
@@davidmella1174 Ubuntu Mate logo you have
@@randomyoutubeuser8509 use as a driver?
are you using beta releases?
are you using non-beta proper drivers?
There is a list of devices that Linux works with - unlike Windows which tries to work with all hardware. Are your devices on that list?
Did you try to resolve your issues with the Linux support community?
I might be byist cuz I only used windows but I’d say I’d dissagree
For me windows is a pain in the ass.
Everytime i solve one issue there is another one is ready for me.
Nk linux
Same
@@Dac_DT_MKD Just carry your desktop around then?
Just like linux
@@crazysquirrel9425 😂😂
I used Windows for over twenty years . I switched to Linux and never will go back. The switch turned my computer life around. I now am a programmer PHP, Python, C++, Ruby much more.
Nice. Good for you. I switched to Linux earlier this year and love it.
By the way ,,, I am seventy years old.
@@blogblocks8370 good job mate
nice
I switched to Linux for programming and ever since I have I’ve been a lot more productive, I’m not sure as to why tho probably because less distractions in Linux.
windows doesn't deserve that much price ! linuxes surely deserve some DONATIONS.
FYI you do know Microsoft bought Caonical?
@@readysetreact1345 form over substance? You might want to reconsider. Try using Linux with KDE desktop. Mint 17.3 KDE is a more traditional desktop and so is any with the mate desktop BEFORE Ubuntu 18 came out. Ubuntu 18 and newer ones base don that look far too much like Windows and act like it too.
There are ways to alter linux to look just like windows.
For many, we want it to just WORK without all the BS, regardless of the OS.
@@readysetreact1345 How so? And why are they using Mint?
For basic computer use they might want to use Mx Linux. Comes with Libreoffice. Fast and does not use systemd unless you select it.
@@crazysquirrel9425 Microsoft hasn't acquired canonical
I agree about the donations issue. But for me, I have no CC or Debit card. Can barely afford the internet due to high cost or healthcare insurance premiums. If I didn't have that problem, a donation would be a lot easier.
There are so called "app images", which are programs in basically a single file with all of the dependencies inside and it is a great solution for running portable software, works offline, and there will be no conflicting dependencies (useful especially when running older software). The only real disadvantages are larger file size, no automatic updates and not everything is made into an appimage. So while great for getting stuff to work, it is still preferred to use official repos.
Come again?
Yes, but there are only a few companies that supply appimages.
I am a Linux user and I use Manjaro for my work.
Also Flatpaks and Snaps
@@ultimateloser6556 basically exes but for linux
@@jahinzee basically app store or play store for linux
You forgot to mention Wine is not an emulator (or Wine). It is a compatibility layer that allows most windows programs (exe files) to run on linux, and steam released proton, which allows you to play a lot of games that are designed for windows (the list grows everyday). It's amazing how far linux has come
Wine was specifically mentioned at 10:56
@@joshjones7605 but he said it was an emulator, not a compatibility layer, in the video
emulator and a comp. layer are very different things
Doesn't matter imo
_club penguin_
we have found a new meaning for this phrase
Tru
@Lucas Zhu Tux is stronk
@Lucas Zhu Me too. I'm using a Raspberry Pi 4B with 2GB RAM. What about you?
@Lucas Zhu Oh... Okay
Club tux
I wish people/TH-cam video uploaders would STOP saying that "you have to be able to use the command line to use Linux." You ABSOLUTELY 100% do NOT have to be able to use the terminal to use Linux. You can install Linux and run it for the rest of your life without never ONCE having to touch the terminal. Yes, it's handy if you are familiar with the terminal, but if you're just an average user who just wants to browse the internet, read/send emails, look at pictures, listen to music, watch videos, chat online to people, write documents, spreadsheets, presentations, databases, and play games, you don't ever need to toucb the terminal. The terminal is what advanced users like to use because you can reach every part of the system to tinker with it, and it's a lot more versatile than a gui-based program.
As for the dependency issues when installing software, this guy obviously hasn't used Linux for a very long time. the package managers, software centres/managers, and programs like gdebi for downloaded deb files ALL take care of dependencies. Even installing software through the terminal, will get the dependencies installed. I'd love to know which experimental half-finished distro he was using when he made this video and made such a false comment. Oh, and like Windows doesn't have its own problems with dll files being overwritten and screwing up the system, by one software that needs an older or newer version of that same dll file to run.
I really don't mind/care what operating system people want to use. If you want to use Windows 3.1 running on MS-DOS 6.2 that's fine by me. Knock yourself out. Use what's best for YOU and gets you the results you want/need. If that happens to be Linux, Mac, or Windows, great. But if you're going to do a video like this, at least do your research before you make the video so that you can get the facts straight.
As someone who works with Windows in the office, I think you 100% have to be able to use Powershell on Windows.
There is simply no way around it.
Is that a false statement? For the average user probably yes, for what I need to do at work, no.
So it really depends on what you need or want to achieve, this is true for Linux and Windows.
The reason Terminal is brought up often is that Linux users are usually more tech savvy and recommend Terminal because as they see it "it makes things a lot easier", while the average Windows user interprets this as "you need to use it, because the system is complicated".
Using CMD or Powershell on Windows also makes many things a lot easier, often times I could fight with the GUI in Windows for 15 minutes for a simple task, while if I know the command line I can be done within seconds. I think that's a typical miscommunication problem, people who are good at something and want to be helpfull tend to forget that their recommendations can look intimidating to inexperienced people.
I would like to know what OS you were using because that wasn't my experience. Whenever there was a issue (there were quite a few) and I laboriously researched a an obscure solution = copy this arcane jumble of commands into CLI. I consider myself a power user, but I _never_ had to pull out the command prompt on Windows (whatever you say about how awesome joining the CLI master race is i just hate CLI). I encountered my fair share of problems in Windows, but Windows problems are typically easier to deal with. Linux problems in contrast are a gigantic pain in the ass to deal with, and compared to the smooth sailing accolades I hear about it I had a fair share of issues just like a Windows OS (I can agree Linux is faster and lighter though). I actually like Mac OS X somewhat more than either (apart from the limited selection of apps and customization compared to Windows) because compared to them it almost always _just works_ .
@@jackvac1918 I started with Ubuntu 10.04, and then a few weeks later accidentally found Linux Mint 9. I've been using Linux Mint ever since, as everything worked out of the box, without having to install codecs etc to play mp3 files or watch DVDs. Back then, I was dual-booting with Windows 7, but it couldn't even get a look in because Linux was running so smooth and fast and without any hassles at all. Then inexplicably, one day, I decided to boot into Windows 7 for some unknown reason. Within 20 mins I wanted to throw the PC out the window. My blood pressure was back up and off the scale, and then came the blue screen of death; the straw that broke the camel's back. I decided I didn't even want Windows on my PC any more, not even in a dual-boot setup, so I wiped it off, and have been far more productive using Linux Mint ever since. I'm a self-employed computer service engineer, and I've put MANY of my customers on Linux Mint. These are primarily people who you have to sit down and explain how to even copy and paste, and what that means. They wouldn't have a clue how to fix even a minor problem, be it Windows, Mac, Linux or anything else. With the exception of TWO people who asked to be put back on Windows, one of whom was a pensioner who just didn't want to learn something slightly new in terms of having to go into the "Internet" category in the apps menu to find the web browser rather than having it in front of him in a jumbled list of everything else, and another woman, who was into pirating DVDs using Nero Burning, and couldn't be bothered to learn to use Brasero which did the same thing, and came pre-installed at the time, EVERYONE else has stayed on Linux and tell me that they would NEVER so much as think about going back to Windows now. Remember, these are people who can barely tell the difference between a mouse and a keyboard ...and they're using Linux Mint just fine. Needless to say, most of them don't even know the terminal even exist, let alone how to use it, but they get their stuff done quickly and efficiently. If and when things go wrong, or they want to upgrade to a newer version, they give me a call, but in the meantime, they just use their PCs and it just works for them. So I stick by what I say. It's not hearsay or something I've read about somewhere. It's real life factual personal experience. You do NOT have to be able to use the terminal to use Linux. Your experience might have been different on account of a particular distro, or your particular hardware combination. If something like your wifi card doesn't work, for God sake just go out and buy one that is supported in Linux. It's not going to break the bank. applies to printers. My Creative Soundblaster Z sound card didn't work at all under Linux until... last year when somebody finally figured out how to get it and many other Creative sound cards working flawlessly under Linux, and his driver was so good it got included in the Linux kernel (no thanks to Creative who didn't want to know or even consider helping anyone to develop a Linux driver. I still have the email from them saying as much.) Anyway, that sound card now works with the 4.18 kernel upwards ...or you can patch earlier kernels if you want to go through that. No one is tied to any particular piece of hardware, or software. If something doesn't work, change it. If you're "geek-minded" and love to tinker, tinker away yes by all means, but don't say that you HAVE TO be able to use the terminal because you don't. Just because one distro gives you problems, doesn't mean that all of them will and Linux is bad. That certainly hasn't been my experience, and it isn't the experience of my customers either.
@@hellortha5403 I sound "silly" because I have installed Linux for many people who aren't too computer literate or expert, and just want to do basic common tasks on a reliable operating system, and because I also have enough of a PERSONAL experience using Linux to know a false statement when I hear one? Grow up you imbecile. I never said anything about that being the case for EVERYONE, in EVERY circumstance, but it certainly is true in MANY instances, as I've seen for myself. From the very young (such as my own nephew who has been using Linux for the past two years since he was five), to elderly retired people. All of them using Linux and not ever having touched the terminal, and some who don't even know of its existence. Whether Windows or Linux, most of them wouldn't have a clue how to fix their computers if it got screwed up, so your point about having a personal IT guy is totally irrelevant, and wasn't anything I was talking about. So instead of looking for arguments and making a complete ass of yourself, try learning to read and understanding what is being said, without putting your own half-baked opinions and over-inflated egotistical nonsense words into other people's mouths.
No need to reply, as I'm not interested in any more crap you have to spew out of your gob.
Very good comment here. For once not a toxic pal
One advantage you missed with Linux. With Linux the updates sit and wait for you to choose when to update. I can't tell you how many times windows has forced an update on me when I'm in the middle of doing something else. Yes you can schedule when windows does updates but often windows will clear your personal settings including update schedule back to window preferred defaults. You can also setup Linux updates and it will never mess with your personal settings. But the default of sitting there waiting for you to click it is priceless. Linux respects its users windows disrespects its users.
I have windows 10 pro and can do that exact same thing you described on updates waiting
@@majingamer6109
But it will take forever to update, then reboot a zillion times before it's ready to use like Windows always have in the past. No thanks.
@@majingamer6109 OMG really???? xDDD so what you're saying is you have to buy the PRO version in order to be able to schedule the updates by yourself!? Thtat's even worse than this DLC bullshit most big game publishers pull off
@@lightaccel744 Sry to break it to you bro but you can't really turn off telemetry in Windows
Huh windows never just restarted, forced me to install them or changed my settings.
When I shutdown my pc I can shops between update and shutdown/restart or just shutdown.
I adjusted my settings when I updated from win 7 to win 10 once even being in the insider program and then leaving it didn't do anything.
It's all about setting things up correctly.
The Linux curve:
Someone who spends all their time in a web browser: Use an “out of the box” distro like Mint and they may not even know their on Linux
Someone who’s competent in Windows and uses special software: Stay on Windows for the familiarity and compatibility
Someone who’s highly technical: Use any Linux distro for the fun learning experience of something new
It's so satisfying installing an apt lackage
If you have time to play around with it, I recommend mint. If you have even more time you might prefer arch or something.
@@JoeEnderman yeah arch is really fun to install (except the goddamn bootloader)
@@kendricklamargaming8174honestly, thats why I run manjaro
windows honestly is more suitable for me, but i wanna test linux for its customizations possibilities and for the sake of learning something new, i don't know if i should honestly.
I run Linux, Not because I can control everything and geek out in the the terminal reading code or compiling a new kernel...but because Ive gotten lazy and just want my PC to work without popups or virus scans or some subscription service expiring. Started with DOS in the 80's and all versions of windows (including windows 10 at work which is an issue when Im in a hurry to shut it down so I can go but it wants to install updates first or when I turn it on in the morning and cant work yet cause it wants to..you guessed it.. install updates).. Ive suffered enough. Been using Ubuntu since 2005 and Ive been happy.
Oh shit! Mike vs Mike! My money's on Mike.
I may suggest using something other than Ubuntu, Ubuntu last time I heard were using search terms and sending it to Amazon.
Johnny Black Dude they have removed it forever ago.
@@frataltay4543 Maybe they have but who knows if they would implement it again. Besides Ubuntu does suck cause it uses the heavy Gnome DE and apt sucks. pacman seems better to be honest. Its easier to use.
I don't use ubuntu but if they removed it. It means that at least they're still listening to the people who use it. I use debian myself. Never tried anything else it just works I could get everything I need from the repository.
Windows 7 users: *_'Bout to go Linux_*
yup
Zorin OS
@@kayatoast0927 Zorin OS Lite is better.
i didn't. i got win10 for free so i tried it and found it to be perfectly fine. been using it for several months with no issues at all.
@@beavis4play That's cool.
In some modern Linux OS's you don't need to use the command line like Ubuntu Mate or Linux Mint. The update process in Windows is archaic, in Linux it's fast, VERY fast, seldom rebooting. Installing software is easy, depending on which OS you choose. However, if you game, stick with Windows. Linux user since 2006.
The GUI is both a plus and a detriment in Ubuntu and Mint.
I was blown away when updating didn’t require 5 restarts throughout the day.
Yep.
Really, the only updates you actually need to reboot for are kernel updates. And you don't need to immediately reboot, it will just update when you do reboot.
Also the cli suks
Life tip: Don’t hack Linux users... they’ll hack you back
Yes if they are using kali linux
Almost like a snow ball fight but the snowballs are malicious code
Every Linux user is not a hacker
@@anantgupta7916 nah not all linux user are hacker a lot of them are a developer and security expert, that doesnt mean they dont have any hacker in the community (english arent my first languages sorry!)
Yeah no shitto
The way Linux works is simply elegant. It makes more sense than Windows. I'm not saying Windows is bad, however Linux is technologically more elegant. A delight to use.
Sure, ....... and the earth is also a spinning magnetized pear tossing through a vacuum at 500 ,000 mph. Tell me how scouring every folder in the root file system is any easier than looking in your Program Files folder or appdata? Linsux scatters programs all over the place there's no single directory they're saved to. Plus all the dot files none of it is consistent AT all.
Linux fan boys are overrunning this video.
Okay fine, DON'T say Windows is bad then. I'll say it for you. "Windows is Bad ...VERY bad." :)
@truthseeker Oh belt up! So that's why Red Hat, Canonical, and Suse Enterprise are raking in millions in cash, because Linux is so bad that only people with no real work to do use it, right? You're pathetic, and need to grow up.
@@greenazure4367 what are you? A windows fan boy? Does that even exist? No, you're probably a fan of mac, which like Linux is based on Unix with a kernel made by apple with way more restrictions. That's the biggest difference between apple and Linux, other than MacOs LITERALLY IS slower than Windows. Even if you use the same CPU, Ram, Video-cards etc.. Ref Linus Tech Tips
I am going to say Linux is better, because it isn't causing my pc to use 100% of my disk for no reason. Not even fixed with a factory reset.
Linux is constantly writing logs into maaaaaaaaaaany directories which slows down your hard drive considerably compared to windows.
Linux administrator said so and it makes sense.
If you have some stupid bugs in windows, then just say: "I have a bug"! Dont mislead people because hard drives actually work faster in windows. It's a given fact.
Sorry for my english.
@@dobro5958 I'm not misleading people though. I just said that windows is using 100% of my HDD and SDD. I never said that hard drives work faster in Linux. Also, you're English is pretty good.
@@hegemon8
*When You really shut down windows (not that hybrid turn off it does by default)*
So why would you do that?
*before superfetch process (google it) finishes its stuff*
Googled it. It says that its very usefull and drastically improves launch speed of aplications. Also it says that it almost doesnt affect any modern hardware performance (SSD for system).
*And writing little text file in system log takes split of a second*
Yes, but writing 97 text lines into 56 log files located in different places of your sistem all *in the same* time slows your hdd performance pretty hard.
Also it is very bad for SSDs.
*collecting all telemetry data to send to MS takes longer, believe me*
Probably yes. But did you do any tests? Ofcourse not.
Also why should I care if its unnoticeable even with my 800$ laptop with ssd that I bought 3 years ago?
*NTFS is a joke, and... "You know it"*
From user perspective it does everything I need.
And from user perspective linux is a joke because all it does is providing me with endless problems that I constantly need to resolve reading tutorials and fucking with terminal.
@@hegemon8 Sorry, but this is terribly misleading. Windows 10 shouldn't be using your HDD or SSD this much, and if it is there's a serious error with your PC. Most likely a viral infection or other malicious software. Superfetch simply stores some of the more commonly used applications in RAM. Yes, RAM, not your HDD, which means it drastically reduces the amount of time spent reading the HDD and SSD overall. You tell people to Google things, but haven't got the gumption to do so yourself apparently. RAM is fast, which means fetching application data from memory is going to be considerably quicker to do than reloading it from the hard drive.
Misinformation is the enemy of all.
@@dobro5958 *But did you do any tests?*
Agreeing to Windows' ToS is already a test.
I run Linux on my old laptop, and Windows 10 on my newest laptop, when it hits end of life with 10, I am going to install Linux.
I think Windows 10 is just going to get new updates all the time, they are not going to release a new Windows that has all changed.
@@wiktorn4268 Yeah I think so that is what I am trying to say.
Don't switch, Windows > Linsux , in fact, Linsucks = worst driver support, Bad GUI, 100% terminal. Linsux is for communists who can't afford a Windows License or a macbook. Your best bet is to switch to Mac OS, apple will take care of you. They have apple support. 👍
@@imodium438 OS X comes with spyware like Windows 10.
Driver support ain't that bad (as long as you don't use old nVidia graphics cards). There are pretty good desktop environments for Linux such as KDE, Deepin, Gnome etc.
@@imodium438 it's not bad of your an end user like me.. Also I'll never swap to Mac because of their data breaches and the price, my newer laptop has Windows 10. Not everything is command based on which distribution you use, I use Mint or Ubuntu.
some of us just can't trust a os that installs candy crush automatically
There is a feature i don’t know if you know about but its on every os, and its called uninstall program. You don’t want candy crush ? Uninstall it.
why?? i love to play candy crush
@@Ronzaigu Damn that's a cool feature, Windows should add that one so I can uninstall Edge
@@starup4960 fr
@@Ronzaigu you should be firced into software you dont want... edge is prime example, you force it into system to point of constant background use than no one uses it...pure bloatware that just stops you from using computer with no way to opt out. duscusting....
Why choose between them? Just dual boot. Best of both worlds. Peace!
Balogh Mihály, Not everyone wants to dual boot. Some people just want consistency, that's why people generally use one browser and don't jump between Safari, Chrome, and Firefox every time they open a new window. I guess it is not a bad thing to have options though. "Peace!"
@@asans9849 I use 5 different browsers to prevent me from having too many sites bookmarked in one browser. It keeps things a little more organized imo.
Theres also the case of windows updates sometimes messing up the Linux installations grub. Happened to me multiple times on dual boot systems.
Yeah thats what i do, i have google chrome on both, and its always in sync
The nail a windows upgrade blows out my linux install. Yeah that was some boosheeeit
is Thio better than Joe?
*Sumɪt Rawal*
Potato. Potato with lemon hair.
No because if you take the square root of Joe and divide it by Thio you will get Half Life 3. So In theory if you find the square root of Thio then add Joe, you get ThioJoe
WHAT IF THIO IS JOE?!!
No Joe is better
I wonder if "TJ" would work? Lol
I switched to Linux in 2012 and am in the process of switching back now. Here are some random thoughts in no particular order.
1. Linux is a BEAR to configure. Anything you want the computer to do, like say, connect to your OneDrive account, requires extensive web searching, lots of trial and error, cryptic terminal commands and much head scratching. Any time your computer requirements change slightly, like you buy a new printer, for example, you have to do to hours of web searching for some hack, some work around, some cryptic commands to make the computer work the way you need. You eventually stop trying to extend your computer horizons because the up-front investment is so great and too often fruitless (see point 14 below).
2. You will NEVER be entirely free of Windows. At some point, you will need to, say, take an online proctored test. When you do, you will be borrowing a Windows computer from a friend because there is NO WAY to do that on a Linux box.
3. Software support is minimal. There are a bazillion little 3rd party apps that add a lot of functionality to Windows. Those apps are not available for Linux. I'm talking about screenshot capture programs, pretty desktop background programs, weather bugs and the like. Get used to not having them in Linux. You know that little app you downloaded from your VPN provider that connects you up in minutes with a simple click of the mouse? You won't be doing that anymore. You'll be digging into the command line, entering long strings of incomprehensible gibberish and crossing your fingers every time you connect. Even worse, Office 365 is not available. Most cloud functionality is not available. Adobe Photoshop is not available. CAD of any kind is not available. Yes, there are Linux knock-offs, but they are shadows of the big commercial software programs, and no one can answer your questions about using them (see point 14 below).
4. Hardware support is minimal. Do you like your fancy mouse with 17 different buttons that do everything you want, just like you want it? Forget about getting that to work on Linux. It turns magically into the most expensive 2-button mouse you ever bought. Forget about getting a lot of printers to work on Linux. Prepare to replace at least 1 or two cards inside your computer, because some of them absolutely will not work with Linux, despite all your efforts (see point 1 above and 14 below).
5. I've used Linux exclusively for 8 years and still don't have to foggiest notion how it works. Like, WTF is in all those system folders on the HD? Why is there no rhyme or reason to them? What are all those weirdly named dependencies I have to download in addition to the software I want? Why does some software come via repository, some come via *.deb file, and some require command line codes to install and utilize? WTH is Grub and why can't I ever figure out where to put it? These are only some of the myriad mysteries of Linux that you will bump into routinely and never understand without a CS degree from MIT. The Windows architecture is rational and knowable. MSFT invests a lot of money into explaining everything with websites, tutorial videos, top-level training programs, discussion boards, etc. You basically have the smartest minds in the world going to great lengths to explain how and why they've built Windows to work like it does. By contrast, Linux is a Gordian enigma (see point 14 below).
6. I never did one virus scan and never got one virus on Linux. Ever. Windows was another matter entirely.
7. On Windows, I have the distinct impression once again that someone is looking over my shoulder whenever I use it.
8. On Windows, every system hiccup can be corrected in roughly 5 Google searches. In Linux, most are unsolvable, see points 1, 5 & 14.
9. Linux file permissions are maddening. There are some areas of the HD that Linux absolutely will not allow you to change. This is all in the interest of security, but it's a flat out PITA, because sometimes you need to make changes. When you do, Linux will block you with file permission nonsense. In a lot of cases, it blocks the administrator from making changes. When that happens, you're stuck doing hours of internet searches for terminal commands to move and copy files, hours more to change file permissions, then hours more to make them recursively for all the subfolders that the first commands you found didn't do (see point 1 above). It's absolutely exasperating. For Pete's sake, it's MY computer, I'll blow it up if I want. And usually, you will when you start doing sledgehammer fixes out of sheer frustration.
10. Linux is not that tough. I've crippled my installs on at least 3 occasions, leaving me high and dry and requiring an emergency reformat each time. Some of the issues could have been resolved if points 1, 5 & 14 weren't such problems. The 1 day spent reformatting was simpler than sorting through all the blind alleys online trying to fix a simple issue.
11. Some of the software on which you come to depend will just stop being updated one day without warning or explanation. You'll be bummed when that happens.
12. Linux was a godsend for my 75 year old Mom. Linux is very stable. It doesn't pop up bizarre warnings that confuse many unsophisticated users. Better yet, it doesn't decide one day to radically change its interface (MS Office 2007?) or re-arrange your menus because it felt like it. For most people it will work exactly the same, day after day. It's simply wonderful if you support users with very basic needs and limited tech savvy.
13. Linux is free. As in FREE! You can completely outfit your computer with just about everything you need for nothing at all. What's even better is that you don't have to fight with pay walls, or hack your registry for product keys or jump through any other hoops. You simply open the Software Center, select what you want and it downloads and installs just like that, and most of it works decently well. That's a wonderful thing.
14. Most of the answers you find on Google to questions or problems you're having with Linux will NOT work. I'd put the percentage at 95%. That's what makes point 1 above such a problem. You will find lots of answers in the form of confusing explanations and lots and lots of cryptic terminal commands. Unfortunately, when you try them, they will not work and you won't know why. So you always have the impression that a solution to your problem exists, but never the satisfaction of actually finding the solution. The reality is that most tech geeks using Windows (the kind of guys who answer your question about that funny error message you're getting) are professionals, IT admins, engineers, computer scientists and the like. They know their stuff and will have you sorted quickly. At best, the geeks using Linux are professionals tinkering with Linux in their spare time. They'll get to you after they've answered all the Windows questions. But then they'll be tired. That's the best you get. At worst, they are guys in remote cabins stockpiling beans and bullets. They aren't necessarily bad people, but logical thinking and rational communication will not be their strongest suit.
I enjoyed my time in Linux Land and will continue to keep it around in some form or other. It has some very good uses. In the end, though, it just doesn't work for me as a primary OS. I was always able to bend Windows to my will. I could find the work-arounds, implement the solutions, do the registry hacks or whatever else was required to make it work like I wanted. Sadly, Linux has defeated me. It's a great OS, but for a curious power user who likes to tinker, it's just a constant frustration. In contrast, Windows 10 is easily one of MSFT's best ever. I am more than happy to make the jump back.
😭😭😭
U took so much time writing dis comment
Very well written. You just ended the argument of which is better.
@@amritsingh_in are you forgetting points 6 and 7
@Pumpkin Patch i am not one of those crazy people with the tinfoil hats. i agree that privacy is sadly dead, but i do believe that i would rather not use google because the less privacy invasion the better. i dont use Tor, but i understand that privacy is important. You can't hide from the government but privacy is still valuable.
I am fairly new to Linux and from what I’ve seen and learned, I have to go with Linux
It’s more stable and the updates on Linux are a breeze. Updates on Windows 10 take way too long
Cuz u have a spinning hard drive it’s slow
I’ve used windows and Linux on a fairly new laptop with an SSD and linux takes 5 seconds to 3 mins max to update, and windows takes 2 to 5 mins to update.
@@tanawatjukmongkol2178 Yeah. Some of my updates take less than 30 seconds total.
@@youtube.user.1234 You forgot about the restart
the reason why the worlds strongest computer runs on Linux says it all
@Insane Studios This is a false assumption. Stereotypes for Hackers is that they use Terminal to hack someone or something, but no. All hacks are made through programming not by command lines. But since Linux is known for using Terminal as its main settings/configuration/system management UI, everybody thought Linux is used for hacking... but no.
@@creepysmilingcarl9742 Lol, my point is that Linux aren't specifically for hackers because hacking can be done on any software or OS.
@@ohCran Kali Linux already comes set up with all the hacking tools anyone would need (whether it be white hat or black hat). Also Linux terminal is just far better equipped for exploits compared to CMD or powershell.
Ahmed Ali you mean specifically kali Linux right? Because every os pretty much comes with a way to code (which means you can hack)
Kali Linux on the other hand comes with programs like Wireshark, Medusa...etc though, and is made specifically for “ethical hacking.” You can get these online though so... I don’t get your point.
@@ohCran think Kali Linux lmao. There are alot of pentesting/hacking tools made specifically for linux.
Yes. In almost every sense. No spyware/bloatware, no annoying updates while gaming, etc. Just wish Linux had more support in gaming and productivity software.
Win10 for gaming. (Upgrading to win7)
Linux for everything else.
Maybe if every linux dual booter installed steam on their linux machine to complete the Steam survey, things would pick up pace more quickly
Valve? As in, verify your Steam account through your phone even though we have nothing to do with phones, Valve? Valve, as in, we never saw a crappy game that was to bad for our platform until a developer threatened to sue Steam users for bad reviews, Valve? That one? Hmmmm. Maybe. Maybe that might just work. Maybe.
I whole hardheartedly agree you. We are getting more AAA games coming to Linux. Rise Of The Tomb Raider is coming to Linux next month, we already have Tomb Raider 2013, also Life Is Strange Before The Storm, we have Life Is Strange too. Yes I know that it takes time for games to come to Linux, but think about the amount of time spent porting and money that's invested, not to mention getting permission from the original authors.
Square Enix are well interested in Linux at the moment with Feral Interactive who are busy with Life Is Strange Before The Storm and Rise Of The Tomb Raider, bringing these huge games to Linux is an eye opener for Linux.
People still don't know what I'm on about when I mention that I use Linux instead of Windows. I get questions like what's Linux, answer a free operating system that can do everything faster than your Windows, because we don't have to rely on things running in the background, when we're gaming. Plus the fact Linux is yours to do with as you please, once you have installed it. When you run a Windows machine it is not yours to own forever, as you still have to answer to Microsoft, you only hire Windows, not own it out right. Try changing the look of your Windows machine to look like a Mac and you'll break it. Like you say if only the dual booters of Linux and Windows would run Steam on their Linux side, they'll find they can play quite a few of their Windows games in Linux, but getting through to people sometimes is like pulling hens teeth. But then again if Linux was more popular and up there with Mac and Windows, then we'll be in trouble, with hackers too. Anyway long speech over and done with. I use Peppermint OS 8 and Manjaro XFCE
Linux is fine for gaming, just use WINE and you can get even better performance than on Windows (Sometimes but not necessarily, though most distributions of Linux are lighter than Windows)
If i use Windows for gaming and woking, what exacty is "everything else"
I use linux every now and then at work and i friggn hate it. Every little thing (like changing the keybaord to japanese) need internet connection.
I'm a "regular user" who switched to Linux for the corporate-free nature of its software and the related user freedom, privacy, and security (as well as UI flexibility).
I found that there are open source software in the repositories that cater extremely well to my workflow and actually work better than Windows software for the fact that, unlike on Windows, they are designed and developed by the people who actually use them in their own work. That's one huge bonus on Linux -- the reliability and quality of the software. Community maintained software has its clear advantages.
Of course, that does mean that you need to approach Linux with an open mind, as its own computer platform, and not expect your Windows software to work on Linux (just as you wouldn't expect Linux or Mac software to work on Windows) (although cross-platform file compatibility is pretty decent, including files for Microsoft Office).
Linux is also getting easier and easier to use by the average person as the years roll on and development continues.
It's also an excellent solution for those who just want things on the computer set up once, and to work that way forever. No forced upgrades, no undesired changes. This makes it a great choice for non-computer-savvy people (as long as they have someone who sets the computer up for them, initially).
Now that Microsoft have created crazy hardware limitations for Windows11 I think a lot of people will be repurposing their old (but still good) PCs to Linux. I also agree with your comment on using Linux to create secure systems for older relatives, etc.
My mom has been using Windows exclusively for decades, but she still doesn't know what anything is or how it works. lol So, yeah, maybe. Thing is, if you get involved, be ready to be tech support. If you don't know Linux well, you can't be telling anyone else to use it.
@@NickRoman She might like to try a live session of Linux Mint - it looks and feels a lot like Windows, and I've switched a lot of Windows users to Linux with it because it's very accessible for someone that's used to Windows
@@NickRoman Let her try Zorin, I personally find it EASIER to use than Windows
Thanks. I'll have to check out those suggestions. I've heard of Mint before, but not Zorin.
They won't. People don't care about long-term solutions, just quickfixes so they can forget about it. Old laptop doesn't support Windows 11? Buy a new laptop. It sucks, but it's the way of the world.
Your example regarding elderly users is spot on. My parents are 70 years old. I switched them to Linux Mint about 8 years ago. All they use the computer for is browsing the Internet, and playing music. Since these activities are not operating system dependent it really makes no difference what OS they are on. The main reason I switched them is that I got tired of having to maintain their Windows system. My father is one of those people who inherently always found a way to get his PC virus infected no matter what anti-virus software I installed. One time I found over 300 viruses, and it took 3 different programs to clean them all off. That was it. I was done with that. I switched them to Mint, and haven't had a problem since.
Exactly, especially linux is effective with people that do not even know what actually a computer is. You can teach only how to use it for what they really need! Like Your case, and the job is done with no problems.
Unlike what was stated at the start of the video, virus writers don't go after Linux because it is much more secure, not because there are fewer. Mac runs on BSD and is also virus free! Though I don't use Macs, the EUA is what kills all those other non free OS's.
@@robertgolding Sorry to interrupt you but Mac is not "virus free"
@@robertgolding there are viruses for every OS, if ut exist it WILL be exploited. most viruses infect the computer by compromising the kernel, installing and running scripts they arent supposed to... that can happend on any operating system regardles of antivirus software and developers effort. all it takes is ability to install programs or even sometmes downliad files and your done. what actually makes linux safer is that it has repositories, places to download software that are already checked for viruses by devs a.k.a. an app store... yes microsoft also has this but it lacks miles comoared to linux package managers.
@@qwerte6948 Haven't had a virus in nearly 30 years, that was when I switched from CPM to Linux. If you keep the system as intended, i.e. SECURE, you never get a virus.
Back in the early 90's CPM was nearly dead and I was initially looking at MS but when I read the EULA I decide against it and looked at Linux. I have never looked back.
I switched to Arch Linux because I was sick of kicking windows "10"(coff 9) into submission. with Arch Linux i command and it obeys nor does it disrupt you with "mandatory updates"
I see you're a man of culture as well...
The mandatory updates are important security improvements that can stop viruses. You don't want to get a virus on Windows, do you? Just be glad the ultra-long feature updates aren't mandatory.
@Shawn Shawn Windows 10 LTSC? The only ones I know are Windows 10, all of its subversions, and Windows 10 S.
no the only pop up when it want to update just says do you want to update you just click no i use perrot linux
Except when you do update it fucks up all your shit because it's bleeding-edge software.
I made the switch from Windows to Ubuntu. I was also de-google-ifying and unfriending Facebook, so I was changing everything. Basic funtions didn't change much. There's a learning curve under the hood. I'm not giving up though. I'm a man on a mission.
Zach Dowlan
I feel ya! I've used mint & Ubuntu since mint 9, on 18.3 now!
Good to see another person on the lonely road of de-google-ifying! The only product of Google I use now is this Google Assistant icon.
Update: mint 19, different
kdwk TH-cam is a Google product...
Well, I mean direct products, as in those explicitly displaying the Google icon. Sites like TH-cam are owned by Google and I don't like them, but before someone figures out how to start a video sharing service more successful than TH-cam, I guess I'll have to tolerate it.
I actually just started using Linux and it is amazing. Even though I am a huge gamer, I still use Linux way more.
install (wine-lutris) and your games will run better on linux than windows.
@@kronoscamron7412 Only some games, most are similar, some wont run at all. Please don't spread false "facts".
@@Gramini My whole library (Save VR but that's just because of the headset brand, if I had a Vive or Index it'd work) on Steam works fine under Linux, and I have 150 flatscreen games ranging from AAAs to niche indies. Proton (+ Wine-Lutris for the few incompatibilities) is basically flawless, even online. Will all games run the same or better as under Windows? Hell no. Is the experience good enough to leave my Windows install as an ugly but necessary VR mode? Hell yes.
@@nomagno Good to hear. Most of the games I play from time to time work well enough too.
Which Linux ??? that's the question
"the main Ubuntu one" I haven't even read the coments yet and I know you got death threats over this XD
It depends, Are you a gamer? windows Are you a programmer? Linux, are you rich? Mac.
im neither
Ice Gamer am gamer and programmer
System.out.println:("lmao");
@@rayanra945 Weird flex. But ok
@@rayanra945 no semicolon on line 2
@@rayanra945 dual boot
"Dependency hell" - you've seriously *never* heard of *DLL hell* where one Windwos app relies on one version of a library (DLL) and another app needs a different version of the same DLL, and the clash between the two causes Windwos to become unstable and crash?
I thought without .net framework and adobe air you can not install most exe in wondows 😂
Always use the package manager folks
That's never happened to me and very rarely happens in general
I've never had issues like that. The worst in windows was years ago, some program I tried to open said there was a DLL missing, and when I went and found it (not the right answer here), it then said another was missing, on and on. So I thought better and tried to figure out what these DLLs were a part of, obviously this is not how you fix this because in windows we don't expect they'd have us doing something like this, and I found the proper redistributable or whatever to install. There might have been a couple, I don't remember, but that was very rare, hasn't happened in modern windows or for ages, and nowadays windows (or steam) tends to find what it needs without any fuss.
The worst problem in general I ever had with windows was back in ye olde times, with IRQ conflicts. Thankfully that's been absent a decade or two. It still pales in comparison to what happens whenever I try linux.
Maybe in the 90s.
At first I couldnt wrap my head around repositories... until i saw how amazingly easy and convenient it is to use them
Yeah man just sudo apt upgrade to upgrade all my packages. And ubuntu based distros are as solid and stable as Himalayas
That's the thing about using a modern Linux distro though - you don't need to use it for long before you realise how much it craps all over Windows :)
@@rudeviper 2 saal baad abhi bhi Linux use karte ho?
@@parthochakravarty2406 ha bhai
there's NO QUESTION
linux obviously is
...
windows wins only because of it's 90% market share, meaning a self-supplying ring of "developers use windows because everyone uses windows"
jan harald most people wouldn't be comfortable with a command prompt which has a lot of errors and is more complicated than a setup wizard
you don't need to use a terminal if you don't want
Luiz Junio Veloso Dos Santos you do if you want to do gaming or in some cases a programs
create a file in linux desktop without sudo command will be required root permission?
fenix lam You don't need sudo for that.
Most people forget, the *number one Linux distro* is Android.
Well, it's not GNU Linux, but it's Android Linux and it's 100% Linux.
That is incorrect. Android lacks a lot of compatibility with Linux binaries, and vise-versa. Android is a VM that runs atop of Linux with tight integration. So no, it isn't a distro and it isn't 100% Linux. ChromeOS, however, is a Linux distro (often derived from Gentoo), though heavily modified and locked down.
Of course Chrome OS is locked down. Google learned the best things from Microsoft.
Randomizer
I'd say they learned more from Apple in this situation.
It lacks in compatibility because the kernel of Android is modified...But Android's kernel is based entirely on Linux...So yes, it is Linux...Modified with commercial purposes.
Varonte
By that logic, that's like saying Mac OS is just a flavor of BSD
I Prefer DOS (Dank Operating System) ;) edit : I Prefer ms-dos (MouthStar-DankOperatingSystem). and WOW... 170 likes?!?
wow. Did I see right ThioJoe did like me?
VacCat Nani?
Is Nani? Why or What
it means what
You can technically use FreeDOS for some things, including on the network. I have it in one of my VMs. That being said, it's extremely limited and while it will access the internet, it won't do most of what a modern OS will.
Windows: hello, how can I help yo-- wait do this do that do this do that
Linux: tell me what to do.
>In windows you don't have to worry about dependencies.
Hello there, the Visual C and Dot Net runtime frameworks want to have a chat with you.
But they don't come with the installer, you'll have to download them from a separate website.
Came here to say this! In Windows, there are at least two levels of dependency hell lol
Apparently he has never heard of DLL Hell. Must be a real noob.
Here's a trick: if something requires DotNet, don't install it, it's crap. DotNet is meant for lazy developpers and it uses a sh*t ton of resources for no reason.
What kind of software are you trying to install lmfao, almost every software that requires Visual C comes with it in the installer
Actually Windows now atomatically give you the option to download that dependencies without going to a website, and if you don't have internet conection you can download C or .Net in other PC and pass it with an USB.. Do that with linux that easy... You can't
they can both run google chrome....so for most people who use a computer to browse then there is no diffrence
Only idiots use Chrome though 😂
Then people should be using the one that doesn't charges you 100 dollars to use it, and the safest one too. This video is kinda weak, if you aren't a pretty hardcore gamer that wants to play the newest heaviest games (most people just play league, Fornite or Steam games) or a content creator (probably 80% of the people doesn't fit in these categories) then you will be perfectly fine with Linux.
Linux has also faster browsing experience than in Windows...
@@av28379 exactly
Can confirm, my parents are doing just as well on Linux as they were on Windows.
I always used the Mac OS. When I started building my own computers I found Windows to be downright awful. I found Linux and it fits my needs.
"Dependency hell" in Linux = "DLL hell" in Windows
My nightmare of DLL 😠
Damn straight. I cannot BELIEVE Joe has never heard the term DLL Hell. I heard it MANY times before ever hearing of Dependency Hell.
That said, it's not an unfair criticism.
Severs run Linux not because of the cost of licences, but because Linux is far more secure, the kernels are updated regularly, and Linux sever is faster like 3 or 4 times faster than windows server.
the performace depends on *many* things, Linux is also used in servers because its more stable
running a server on modern windows would be equivalent of running a server on ubuntu 8.04 [or older] today.
@@orion55 I know they are stable but how stable compared?
@@des_sun1x What is stable compared to what?
It is definitely not 3-4 times faster, there might are some very specific tasks where it is much faster, but probably not 3-4 times. For regular stuff it probably is a bit faster on heavy loads however somewhere in the one digit percentage.
im a photographer and i love Ubuntu Studio. linux for life..
You say this because You dont have money for windows
I remember .dll Hell in windows, was always fun
not really problem now days
Now you can relive that with Linux's version hell.
Ubuntu is red
Windows is blue
Linux is free?!
Why's the like button blue???
I dunno man 🤷♂️
i have a custom css thingy that makes it orange so i have no clue why it would be blue for me
Okay I'll un-blue the like button.
@@aseemsharan aw man-
It's white
My dad's PC had Windows 10. Then, somehow it corrupted it's own partition. Bsod: "NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM". So we put linux on it and he already likes it. *He used to hate linux*
Linux has come leaps and bounds in recent years; the pace of development and improvement is staggering. The story 5 years ago might've been different, but these days, Linux is super easy and comfortable, and better than any other OS in many significant ways. I feel much more at home and don't miss anything about Windows. Never intended to switch, I just found that I liked it better.
everyone used to hate linux in the old times, but there was a good reason for that.
Vulcan will most likely replace directX, and more and more games / game engines are becoming portable (meaning OpenGL support by default) anyway. I think MS Windows being "the only viable" gaming platform is, more and more, becoming a thing of the past, and this perception is more of a backwards "this is how we've always done it, so this is how it must be" sort of challenge, rather than a technical one.
As much as I despise Windows, you're right about the shortcomings that Linux has. I mainly use Windows because of the comparability issue you mentioned. But you're 100% right about dependency hell.
Just use wine or a vm with windows.
@@firstdingus if you even bothered doing research, you would know that it doesnt always work
TL;DR ---- The better question is: How can more people be introduced to Linux?
The main function of any OS is to enable people to do stuff. What kind of person, and what kind of stuff varies. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. When you really boil it down, the main issue in the Linux vs. Windows vs. Mac comparison is 100% of computer users are familiar with Windows (no matter if they use it or not), and a high percentage of computer users know that Mac is a thing (even though most don't use it, and can't afford it). Most computer users do not know about Linux, so that places it at a disadvantage.
Just as mentioned in the video, there are perfectly valid and obvious use cases for Linux on the desktop -- such as old hardware, underpowered hardware, custom-built hardware, special-use hardware, nontechie users, and just want to try something different.
I think pretty much everyone can agree that if you are heavy into gaming, then Windows is the OS for you. Similarly, if you are heavy into video editing and the like, then Mac is the OS for you. And if you are a computer enthusiast or an advanced/power user, then any or all of the above are good options for you.
There are issues with any OS; some more annoying or concerning than others. The difference is that the entire infrastructure of the personal computing industry has built up so much muscle memory in dealing with Windows issues that we don't always recognize them as actual problems. That's why when some people find their way into Linux, it feels like such a breath of fresh air.
For example: With installing printers on Windows, you get used to messing around with that printer for 30 minutes (or more) installing drivers and useless bundled software and then restarting and going through all the first-run software nonsense. Then you discover on Linux, that same printer has auto-installed itself and is immediately usable. You then realize how much time and effort you have been wasting.
The main gripe with Linux is the unavailability of specific software or specific proprietary drivers. Though, I would argue it is not at all a problem for most users. Even then, this is becoming less of an issue over time, but it is potentially an issue for an interested user. That would change as more people were introduced to Linux. What we should be asking is how can that be accomplished.
This deserves more likes and views.
Good point. Linsux is not for everyone. Its horrible , dated and meant to be used for computers from the early 90s. Missing packages, drivers failing with updates, installing kernel headers ... 100% copy paste command into terminals. its too much maintenance , so just buy a Macbook and use OS X. Apple has apple care and apple support they will look after you. 👍
Sell refurbished laptops with Linux to students for a superlow price. Get them while they are young and they'll never let it go. Just ask my therapist 😂
I would only buy a linux PC for the cheap price, and after that, install windows on it, i tried most of the distros in VMs and find it way too simple, manual and confuse
@@mrgeez1 I find it impossible to do any programming work in Windows.
I'm 64 and I'm finding Linux easy to learn for exactly the reasons you have stated. I've been a Windows slave for more than 30 years! Linux has set me free!
Even Linux tampers with Flash. And yes, FLASH IS NEEDED for a long long time yet.
YES! THE PENGUIN ARMY IS MASSIVE AND DIVERSE!
No mention of GNU/Linux giving you Freedom
Mentions changing themes, not installing desktop environments, or different windows managers.
Also you can get repositories on DVD.
4/10 desu.
uwu
tripcode!Q/7 all hail the supreme leader Richard Stallman and join the religion of the GNU
Saint iGNUcious from the church of emacs. :DD
You can have your repo on a USB too if you like, just any kind of storage medium. Also, most computers are connected to the internet anyways
What is a DVD? 😂😂
"Is Linux Better Than Windows?"
Short answer: Yes
Best answer: Why I got this video in my recommendations?
Yes I will install Ubuntu today with my dad Ubuntu is a server of Linux
1. Not really
2. Windows isn't as secure as you believe. Trust me.
NO I DON'T! I HAVEN'T USED IT AS MY DAILY DRIVER OS IN 10 MONTHS!
depends heavily on your version and what your using it for...
This was a good all-round, pretty subjective video on the subject. I really like it. I'd like to just add Windows updates. There are four disadvantages (that I don't like and I think are really strange) about Windows updates:
1. That by default, it updates without your consent. I've heard that you can determine when to update, but I've also heard that sometimes Windows can override that and still does the update anyway (I don't know, I haven't used Windows in ages). But I hear complaints very often that unexpected updates have caused bad days for some people and it shouldn't be that way.
2. That you can't do anything during updates and installations. On GNU/Linux, updates run in the background and installations can be run while running other applications. On Windows, you seem to have to close all applications and everything that you're doing during an installation. And during Windows updates, the computer is unusable. If you're gonna make me wait for an update to finish, at least give me access to solitaire or to a web browser or to some music.
3. When I update my Firefox, I'm only updating my Firefox. When I'm updating VLC, I'm only updating VLC. When I'm updating Rufus, I'm only updating Rufus. In GNU/Linux, you can update all of them at once, including system services. And another point related to that but just a minor inconvenience, is that Adobe software checks if there are updates available. Your anti-virus checks if there are updates available. It's a good thing solitaire doesn't go check for updates as well. In GNU/Linux, when you check for an update, you check for updates for ALL applications at the same time. So I think it's more compact and time and resource efficient, instead of each software having a mind of its own, checking for updates at different times unknowingly slowing your internet connection. I really can't stand it when I turn on a slow Windows system and must wait for two or three anti-viruses to check for updates (or whatever it is that they do when you turn on a Windows system).
4. The updates are very mysterious. I have no clue what I'm updating. I don't know, I just sit there feeling stupid. Not worthy to be filled in on it. (This is not really a disadvantage. It's just something that I find weird. I prefer knowing what you're going to do with my computer.)
I think most of these disadvantages/inconveniences only become apparent to me after having switched to Linux. So maybe, if you have never used Linux, you wouldn't consider these as problems/disadvantages, but sometimes I really do.
For me the best option is to dual-boot Linux and Windows (Mint 19.3 and Win10) on the same computer. This way if some program is not unavailable on Linux and doesn't run properly with Wine, I can just install it on Windows. This also makes a computer more reliable, because if something goes wrong with one of the systems, I can still use another one.
I do the same thing!
Why use 1 OS if you could use 2?! Obviously you would need to learn both operating systems I mean dual-booting is great especially if you want to have 2 or more operating systems to run on, for example if you want to download something from Windows but you are limited to Linux and uh what distro you use, you could boot up the Windows OS and play it from their that is just an example but the capabilities and possibilities on how you want to use it is endless.
I'm no Linux patriot in any way. There are really only _two_ good reasons why you _must_ use Windows, and _one_ why Linux is not your thing.
_1. Games._
_2. Specialized software_ used by the company you work for.
_3. You know Windows,_ and Linux is different. That's a problem.
However, you can easily install Linux next to Windows and have them both on your computer and see if you like it or not.
Since this video was meant to the average user, I have to disagree at some points. I'm a "newbie" to Linux (mint) and Ubuntu, and have used Windows practically throughout my entire life. I like Linux better.
*Power* Using a laptop? Linux is far less power hungry than Windows, so your battery lasts longer. Also, it's faster, and doesn't get "tired" over time, like Windows.
*Software:* What programs do you have and use in Windows, _by category?_ Linux have them all, just lesser to choose from. And most of them are just as good. So how choosy are you? About any browser but Internet Explorer. Various Office's but MS Office. Photo, music or video editing? Several. The list goes on and on.
As mentioned, Linux is _damn much safer, more stable, entirely free, a repository like Apple Store or Google Play and works the same way. And nobody cares about what you do on your computer. Windows 10 is _*_all_*_ about getting as much information about you as possible, which is why it was free for some time._
*Adobe vs Gimp:* I'm not a pro, but am quite familiar with both programs, and _yes_ I find them pretty much equal. Both are damn good, have just about the same number of filters and whatnot. One costs a shitload of money, the other is entirely free. No, you don't need Photoshop _at all,_ unless you're an educated professional who've used it since you begun your Adobe education.
Besides that, I agree pretty much with everything *ThioJoe* says. My only big issue with Linux is "the dependency hell", and that I have to read _"how to do"_ this and that in order to make my computer the way I want it to be. But that's because I'm a newbie.
Thank you for a good presentation. :)
Well said. Inkscape for vector graphics is pretty awesome and of course Blender for 3D stuff.
You have to use Windows because even to today if you want to play the latest Triple A Title, or you want drivers for your wireless card working or whatever hardware you want functioning, it most likely will be only compatible under Windows. Windows is just straight up garbage but because of it's market-share and because it is taught in schools that Windows is functional, developers and hardware manufacturers usually make their products only on Windows, unless an operating system has notoriety like Mac and Linux. This is called network effects. It's not that Windows is so much better than Linux, it's just that Windows even to this day still has the majority of the hardware and software support.
Me personally I am FreeBSD guy, I wish all the developers and hardware manufacturers poured all their support towards FreeBSD. For developers to recognize FreeBSD it has to have a large user-base. How to get lots of people using FreeBSD? You have to improve it's hardware and software compatibility where it's user-friendly enough. You see the cycle? The only way FreeBSD will ever be popular is through MacOS, since MacOS uses lots of FreeBSD code particularly in their kernel and user-space. But MacOS has a closed platform, Apple's business practices are very anti-consumer. You can't run MacOS applications on FreeBSD for example. If MacOS was free and open-source or had a more platform it would be beneficial to everyone because lots of people hate Windows. There is still a huge demand for an alternative to Windows. Linux and MacOS are not getting it done. And how the market works no niche OS like Amiga or Haiku is just suddenly going to become popular. If someone can convince Apple to change their ways, or at least make MacOS a complete fork of FreeBSD that would be beneficial too =).
I'm a linux user, and have been for 15 years. I don't run Windows anywhere except in Virtual Machines and on computers I don't personally control (i.e. at work). This comment is pretty accurate, but I would offer a few thoughts.
1. Games - This is highly dependent on the games you want. There are a lot of AAA titles available via Steam on Linux these days. Tomb Raider, Rocket League (Maybe not technically AAA, but soo much fun I had to list it. Also 100% cross platform online play!!), Hitman, Civilization, Deus Ex, Mad Max, DiRT Rally, Dying Light, Borderlands 2, and more. Don't even get me started on the number of titles from smaller studios that are available. The Linux Steam Integration package developed by Ikey from the Solus distro (Available as a Snap for other distros) really takes things up a notch. Sure, there are also some huge titles that don't appear on Linux and that's a shame, but that's why I have an Xbox. If I'm going to play games in a non-free environment I want it to just work everytime with no effort even if it means sacrificing some visual fidelity. ;)
Power: I have actually seen much the opposite. While Linux based Operating Systems have the potential to run more efficiently, they often fail at this. At least out of the box. Installing a few utilities (TLP and PowerTOP) and configuring them correctly will help, but generally speaking power management for laptops is one of the areas that is pretty terrible. Hardware vendors are as much to blame for this as the software developers. I wish I had the knowledge to contribute to making it better, but I don't have the free time to learn.
Adobe vs GIMP: This comes down to a matter of preference, but also cost/value evaluation. I can do anything I need to with GIMP. I started on Photoshop with Photoshop 7 and have newer versions off and on over the years via student licensing deals. If I were a professional photographer who was constantly re-touching photos I would spring for Photoshop and run it in a Windows VM. The main reason is the time savings afforded by the much more advanced builtin tools. I generally spend my time working images for websites and programming projects, so I prefer to save my money and just stick with GIMP. Also of note are Inkscape, Krita, and one of my most used applications lately Gravit Designer (A must have for anyone doing any sort of UI mockups/prototyping.)
@Owen Kanaway - "You have to use Windows because even to today if... you want drivers for your wireless card working or whatever hardware you want functioning, it most likely will be only compatible under Windows."
I just haven't seen that to be an issue in the last few year. Really not for at least 5. I haven't had any hardware support issues in what seems like forever. Mind you, I started using Linux back in 2002 and wireless drivers werea mess, graphics acceleration worked like black magic (Xorg/Xf86 conf editing) requiring just the right card/driver/kernel and manual recompilation on updates, audio was similar, and don't get me started on configuring mice or trackpads (particularly with extra buttons and scrollwheels). There are some edge cases, and sometimes distros don't update to provide the drivers you want immediately, sure. Overall the major hardware vendors have gotten really good about providing drivers and kernel patches where necessary to support new hardware from day 0. I'm not a FreeBSD person, but I do appreciate the way they handle things. I wouldn't mind seeing a concerted effort to turn it into a more competitive desktop operating system. Like you said though, it's a Catch-22 scenario. This is the reason I've really liked seeing how a few newer distros have been handling integration. Solus and Elementary are great examples of how a solid focus on consistency and internal integration can yield a much better product than many of the distros that have come before.
@Jeremy Coleman
Thank you for taking the time to reply in such detail, much appreciated. As I said, I am relatively a "newbie" and was actually wondering if I was wrong when I wrote about _power._ Reason being that either my "old" laptop battery have gotten worse, or Linux Mint is draining it (or both).
I didn't know that CIV was possible to play on Linux? The only reason I kept windows for so long, was _because_ of Civ V!
I enjoy privacy, so I always wanted to use Linux. So using Windows X bothered me a lot. I don't have facebook (well, I _do,_ but it's completely empty, and I never visit it), and though I'm commenting frequently, and am "all over the place" on the internet, I always keep my username and real name separated, and my real name to a minimum on the internet. _(I guess you would too if your first name was as rare as mine)._
Philosophilia Well as a Linux patriot I can tell you I started using Linux only for gaming on only once i started programming i started using it as my main OS
Never realized how buff the Linux penguin looked
RIPPED
this is a cursed comment men
Complains about privacy.
Spends the whole day in social media.
Hahhhah, a good one!
Lmao
dick pics confirmed.
Christian Weissmuller Windows 10 doesn't scan your hard drive and upload the files to Microsoft, stop that meme.
@@hegemon8 No it doesn't. I know for a fact you don't even use windows 10 lol. I use it and it has never done that to me.
I moved my mother across to Linux from Windows, this was quite painless as she mainly used Firefox, Thunderbird and LibreOffice under Windows, so it wasn't exactly a huge leap for the applications. When it came to the interface, I gave her an AlmaLinux system which I custom-skinned to look and work a bit like her other machine - an Acorn RISC OS box!
This dude always looks like he is making fun of something.
He doesn't know it, but its windows.
Yeah windows is just some boring stuff
What learning curve
I just switched to Linux after using Windows all my life and it was not steep at all
What learning cursive
I just switched to Linux after using Windows all my life and it was not sleep at all
And yes that's how I read it lol
i read it like that too haha
Love my Xubuntu.
Animal Facts Love my kubuntu
Love my Debian
I'm also on xubuntu. Been curious about budgie for a while..
i am using zorin
Ugh I hate Ubuntu but chrome os is good in devolper mode
Does Windows have a cute penguin as a mascot?
No, that's why I love linux
I have it set as a widget on my KDE desktop
lol
Windows gets worse over time.
Linux gets better over time.
Even though I am a gamer, I still use Linux Ubuntu. Not because of better fps, it doesn't get better fps. But it runs wayyyyyy more stable.
If you try Linux for a short time, you're gonna say it sucks. If you try it for a year, you'll love it. That's because it takes longer to get stable, but once you're done, it'll last you longer.
Windows gets worse over time. - nonsense
I started with Windows 95 which was ok then Windows ME which was crappy...now on Windows 10 which has been a solid stable OS. Ive felt no need to dable with Linux nowadays
@@atomiccritter6492 cough cough *windows vista and 8* cough cough
I've been used Linux for 3 years. Here is my experience:
- Windows: I always have 100% disk issue. That is bad
- Windows: control panel is too complicated. New windows 10 has new interface, but it is worse: it is like old style mixes with new style. I've tried Cinnamon, Gnome3, XFCE, MATE on Linux and there is no complicate control panel (Settings, ... just the name)
- Linux: Graphic drivers may not as good as windows.
p/s: I am using Debian based distro.
you think settings is old style mixed with new? that would be disgusting!
Very nice & fair review. My problem is that I like Windows 7, I like Windows 10, and I like various Linux distros, so I waste far too much time switching from one to another.
The day that there is a linux distro that runs all windows programs flawlessly then maybe more of us will jump ship.There is a reason why most of the world are using windows and not Linux or MacOS because most of the software and stuff we use does not work on Linux or does not work well.
So we are aware of the advantages of Linux but until Linux can run everything we want without searching for drivers or updates, we are stuck with Windows.
Compatabilty is king.
Most Windows users who try to compare Linux to Windows have very little knowledge of what they're actually talking about which is a disservice to people who are actually considering making the switch. Conversely, many dried in the wool Linux users are too elitist to make a convincing argument to convince novice users to try Linux. I've been using Linux for 15 plus years now, exclusively, and haven't missed Windows once. I don't think I'm superior to anyone who chooses Windows (or macOS), rather; I find that Linux suits my needs just fine and so I simply don't need to deal with Microsoft's Windows or its automatic updates or activation issues. I'd never touch an Apple product.
Same here, I still need Windows where I work, but I prefer Linux over Windows - no activation, lower resource use, no viruses to worry about at the moment, can carry it with you on a flash drive if you want, encryption is very good, you get the full space of hard drives to use, not missing out on 10% with Windows to name just a few. I am not an expert by any means, but I have found something that meets my needs and I use it. Give it a try and if you like it, use it or put it next to Windows so you have a choice on booting up. Good post and I haven't touched Apple at all myself.
Windows is popular because it is very easy and intuitive plus loads of software out there. Very popular among gamers since vid card makers won't write decent or any code for linux. You listening nVidia?
Most Linux users who try to convince people that Windows is bad have no idea what they are talking about either, such as using arguments that were true to XP era to bash on Windows 10. They then lie that Wine is some almighty tool that you can run all Windows programs you need with little effort. In reality its a nightmare that requires shitloads of tweaking for every individual program and hardly ever works.
I hate apple but love Linux.
@@rytisliaucys3444 Well, I never had to do "shitloads of tweaking" since Wine 3.0 and it runs most of the software I need (not Pro Tools, but... it sucks anyway). So, "hardly ever works", nope, sorry, I don't think you would say that if you used Wine recently, even if it's subjective. I've never seen anyone pretend that Wine runs "all" Windows programs, btw.
I moved to linux completely about 10 months ago!! yeey
@@readysetreact1345 yes the downgrade on the slowness of the pc
@@readysetreact1345 You have 36 comments on this channel, and 100% of those are on this video saying how Windows is better lol
Also, Linux is an upgrade to Windows lol. If I wanna run Windows software, I'll just use VMWare to virtualize Windows, and it performs close to native speeds.
@@LinusDropTips Try going to a store and BUYING a Windows install disk.
And I mean one that does NOT require downloading from the internet.
@@crazysquirrel9425 pfff imagine buying an overprised OS that spies on you
YES
For new Linux users, I recommend Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Both aim for ease of use and achieve this to a point where they offer Windows XP to Windows 7-level ease of use, easily, without going too far in that direction the way hand-holdy, overly locked-down Windows 10 goes.
or reactOS for windows users
I would never recommend Ubuntu because of the gnome desktop environment that it has as default is horribly and I know you can change it but newcomers wouldn't know how and I had a lot of problems with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS the UI was buggy and it didn't recognize my screen because of some strange problem with laptops. And on top of that the GNOME desktop was consuming a lot of RAM. I think there are better distros for newcomers
Ivan Karamazov i would prefer mint, KDE Neon (when the Pc has a bot more ram), zorin os or manjaro cause simple and stable
ElementaryOS is getting new release in days/weeks. Worth checking, it's a beautiful distro.
Don’t use mint
Krita is actually a really good free alter for photoshop, so much so that I never felt the difference
My 2 cents,
1. Compatibility? Using Linux needs open minded perspective. Adobe Creative Cloud isn't available, but many alternatives are available and comparable in feature sets (and some are not even free, and it's running on Linux).
2. Installing software in Linux is easy, and mostly are automatic process, here's an example, in my OpenSuSE installation, when I want to install Webmin, all I do is type in 'rpm -ivh webmin.rpm' and it will install webmin with only the rpm file (similar to a .cab file in windows), and you can run this rpm file OFF a flashdisk. Yes, there are times where you need other pieces of softwares (dependencies) but if you install your Linux-with-everything-checked, most of the time you won't get dependency requirement (most are already installed).
3. Dependency hell is close to non-existent these days. Repos can be cloned, and in Windows, there is something similar to dependency hell, it's called DLL hell, and this is also VERY RARE, so as dependency hell. And don't forget the times when Microsoft installer hung on installing .Net framework dependency prior the main software install (though this happens very rarely these days).
4. "I shouldn't have to figure it out, it should just work", I'm not saying that I don't agree with this, but everything has it's own unique way of "working". Just because you are familiar to Windows doesn't make it Linux FAIL automatically, and vice versa for people who are familiar with Linux and repos will tell Windows users as outdated and old, why would you need to install a software by downloading a file, then installing it? And if the software requires a dependency (like .Net Framework version XX), at times it will just throw out some cryptic error message. The software should just INSTALL, and it just works in Linux (tragically, Windows is indeed very very "old-fashioned" in this regard). Even our phones does this automagically, Wiindows by default doesn't do this - except you install your software through a marketplace (Windows Store, or Steam). Well, the argument about "An application install in Windows just works" depends on a very specific perspective of your view as a user. If downloading an "installer" works for you, then there you go vice versa for Linux user, an "apt-get some_software" is MUCH EASIER and more efficient than downloading an "installer". Each has it's own quirk. I personally prefer the modern way of Linux Repository, Windows is outdated and old IMHO.
5. Switching to other operating system are most of the time will require a learning curve. Keep an open mind.
6. Not all software are available in Windows, netdata is one of those sofwares (google it). And it provides information in a way that no Windows application can provide.
"automagically"
I really like this!
And, of course, I do agree on all points made.
This is a little old video, but I want to share a story why I originally switched to linux.
I had a cheap laptop with windows 7, maybe 4GB RAM and 128GiB SSD but poor processor.
Also the fan worked poorly, I literally had to blow air into it so it would start running, and without it the laptop quickly overheated.
I played a game that existed both on windows and linux platforms, and I had very low FPS, often going to 5 FPS or below.
Then also the windows grew over time, and at the point where I got tired of the crap, It was 37GB! That's one fourth of what I had!
Then I installed Ubuntu 16.04. Suddenly everything ran smoothly, system booted up in 4 SECONDS, OS didn't take crazy amount of space, only few GiB.
While security is important, for common user it is not something you see, so it is harder to realize its importance.
But what really made me love Linux, was when I started up my game.
OS didn't waste my resources on anything, and the game ran easily with at least 3 times higher FPS. That's MASSIVE performance boost. So definitely worth the change, at least if you have little resources
You must have had a core i3 or worse cpu.
Linux is a CPU hog but doesn't use much RAM (unless you are trying to move large files via usb then it hogs both cpu AND ram). Just experience that over the past 3 months. I tried the same with win xp and it did not drag down the computer like Linux did.
From last I heard the woman who was working on the USB3 project for linux quit that job. This is why Linux STINKS when it comes to USB speeds.
And an easy way to turn write caching on and off WITHOUT command line is dang near impossible.
Linux says it is does transferring but it IS NOT DONE. It still has to flush the cache BEFORE removing a usb device.
Windows I have not experienced that problem. Done is done in windows. Done is 'well I say it is done by really I am lying and you still have to wait' in Linux.
I had to edit some file in Linux just to get it to NOT use all my ram when doing file transfers via usb.
Linux is still superior to windows but you have to give credit where credit is due.
But you didn't say name of the game
@@crazysquirrel9425 I think you've swapped around CPU and RAM in your second sentence, "Linux is a CPU hog but doesn't use much RAM". The rest of your rant makes more sense with those the other way around. My Linux uses 5% CPU when watching TH-cam, with the CPU running at 1 GHz (out of 4 GHz, so it also saves energy and produces less heat). An old computer I had, which had Intel Atom, was so slow on Windows (7) that it wouldn't play Minecraft at 2 fps. Linux did at 20, with other programs also open. This guy had a sluggish hard drive, and with just 1 GB of RAM the caching didn't help a lot either, but still, Linux was just so much faster.
Caching files is not hogging up any RAM, actually. If some program demands RAM but all of it is taken up by cache, Linux will quickly (as quickly as possible, which is maybe not that quickly) write the cache to the disk and give the freed up RAM to the program. Right now, I have 5 GB of RAM being used for cache, while 3 GB is used by programs. This means that 8 GB (out of 16 GB) of RAM is unused, but 13 GB is _free._
Caching considerably speeds up read/write speeds. This caching does mean that writes will be "done" sooner than they are _done_, but this also has the advantage that the "written" data can be used already while it's still only in the cache. Linux will have simulated writing the data perfectly and while you can already use the data as if it were on there, and it will be silently writing the rest of it in the background and emptying the cache. If you want to copy huge amounts of data without using the cache, the rsync command may help. If you don't want to use the command line, then why are you even using Linux? Okay, the desktop is fine for most things, but even GUIs will be made by people who expect you to know something of the command line. (except for newer releases of Ubuntu)
Your other issue is another case of PEBKAC: you have to unmount drives before unplugging them. This will flush the cache and prohibit any further accesses to the drive, letting you safely remove it. It will tell you when it's safe to remove, either by the umount command finishing or by a notification on your desktop. People were not doing this, so Windows disabled caching for removable drives by default. Linux assumes the user is smart enough to unmount before unplugging. The data will still be written as quickly as possible, and if you don't plan to unplug the drive, then it will make it seem like it is faster (as fast as RAM, really). If you do want to unplug it, it is equally fast as Windows. I've never had any issue with slow USB speeds on Linux. By the way, Windows also caches non-removable drives.
Lastly, your exaggerated use of double newlines and caps is disgusting, annoying, and hard to read. Try *TH-cam* _formatting_ instead of -caps.-
... but thanks for your opinion. I also appreciate your final sentence.
... and I thank every reader who has just read all of this.
@@fghsgh I do not appreciate your intent to flame me (PEBCAK), And my post is not a rant (derogatory term).
By the use of those in your post you invalidated your entire post.
In my years of experience I KNOW Linux uses far more CPU than memory. My CPU is frequently maxed out while I only use barely 3gb ram out of 8. It has been this way sine I used linux for years now.
My reasons for using linux are many and I detest having to use command line for squat.
Any linux hardliners or Microsoft haters or Linux developers who attempt to ridicule or force others to use command line when command line should be optional are just zealots.
If linux truly wants to succeed then the command line is an OUT and should be a vague OPTION for geeks.
People do NOT want to learn complex and very very picky syntax to do command line. ONE letter off and you wipe out an entire hard drive.
Right now I am using 34% ram (3 browsers, 5 tabs) and cpu drops to 7% if I don't do anything at all. But when click on a single thing and the cpu usage skyrockets.
If I do large file transfers the CPU is maxed out while ram is barely used.
Data transfers to a flash drive or external hard drive with linux claim to be complete when they are far from being complete. That is a LIE when it says it is done and it isn't.
People can lose precious data that way not to mention their valuable time.
RSYNC is too complicated even for me. Too risky too. Copy/Paste is what I need and so does nearly everyone else out there.
Give me a GUI that is easy and uses RSYNC and I will check it out. NO GUESSWORK. NO REMEMBERING JUNK to get it to do what I want to do.
You see that is why Windows is such a nice setup. It is very intuitive and easy to use (but is full of built in spyware and prone to breakage).
Linux is superior to the others because it is robust and immune to 99% of windows malware right now.
But it is not easy nor intuitive for the vast majority of people out there.
Oh and remember not everyone can type well either.
I hate to type a lot of useless junk (hence the reason why I don't bother with HTML or C++ or similar complex syntax and such) to get things done when I can point and click to do it and do something else in the meantime.
Windows says a transfer is done then it is DONE. Linux lies about it (cache flushing which you CANNOT easily turn off permanently or temporarily) and you have NO way to know if it is finished or not - you have to guess and hope and PRAY that you didn't lose anything.
I transfer a file in WIndows (xp or 7) and the transfer speed is significantly HIGHER than the same file transfer in linux.
So I dual boot with XP and Linux.
Linux is best suited for internet ONLY due to the higher security. Not worth much for anything else.
Speaking of linux security - the ownership and permissions stink. I want every file on my data drive to be accessible by anything and everything.
Been down THAT road. Redo linux or switch to another linux and NO ACCESS to my own files. I am stuck using NTFS for data drives. Or sometimes FAT32.
Can't do linux drive encryption either for that reason.
Plug in a new drive and Linux automatically assigns ownership and such. Having to go back and FIX it for normal use is a pain.
Now please stop trying to place blame on me and place it on the linux developers who insist people learn command line if they want to decently use linux.
@@crazysquirrel9425 Oh yeah you say you like Linux because it is secure but if you put it on NTFS you give up all security. I had actually a full response ready for your last comment but I didn't save it and rebooted the computer so I lost it.
No access to your own files -> change your user ID. Some distros even let you do that in a GUI.
A command line is, for setting obscure settings, much more efficient than a GUI. And don't tell me you've never wanted to rename a bunch of files at once.
Well spoken, and fairly too. But I downloaded Linux Mint and to my surprise it work very well and it really does look interesting. Had it's own type of 'Office' so I'm looking forward to using it. Keep up the good reviews; thanks!
I grew up as a kid using Mint. Such a breeze, love that distro.
@@CosmicMerlin i use ubuntu
I use Debian 12 KDE@@tomacmar
The main advantage is security, including entire drive encryption for most distros. The fact that its free means you can spend more money on the hardware and end up with a nicer machine. Linux Mint basically does have everything Windows has or an alternative to that. It's layout is just a tad bit better then Ubuntu. The Cinnamon desktop is nicer and easier to use then gnome 3.
I use Windows for gaming when I have to, and Ubuntu for everything else.
> Ubuntu
*Laughs in Arch*
I used Windows since I was 8 years old. Neighbors had given us an old desktop computer that ran Windows 95. So I learned some DOS and used Windows for the next 15 years. In my 20s I got tired of my laptops inexplicably crashing and never working again, so I bought a cheap chromebook, just to stop spending money on computers. I have to say the ChromeOS is really intuitive and I like it. The only real drawback is the lack of compatibility. It's the only things that regularly frustrates me. At the same time that frustration is balanced out by ease of use and security. I like it so much that I've started to learn more about Linux. Now, mind, I am a bit of a technophobe and a luddite and know little about computers, but even I can see that Linux is better, and hopefully, if more people got interested in it, then its biggest drawback, lack of compatibility and software, will be solved.
Actually look it up a Chromebook can run a standard Linux environment with a terminal might want to check that out you might be able to install some stuff
I have a laptop with Windows 7. I can't connect to the wifi in ANY public library, I can connect to wifi found elsewhere. I've had numerous people try to help me, we've tried everything. Then one guy put in a Linux boot disc and was able to easily connect to the Wifi at the public library. Yeah, Linux can do it, Windows could not. What the Hell? I like Linux, but don't want to learn a new OS. Incompetent Microsoft is forcing me to change. I used to have a Laptop with windows 10 also. It was stolen. As I recall I wasn't able to connect to the Library wifi with it either. I was using a different wifi available from nearby, but now you need password or something so I can't. I connect to the network, but the login screen will not come up no matter what. only works in Linux.
@@EmeraldEyesEsoteric I really hope your shit posting but if you're not sounds like you've got your Wi-Fi settings configured wrong
My first computer was a Commodore VIC-20... because it was new back then... not an eBay find...
That's when computers made you think...Now just point and click... IF it doesn't do EVERYTHING for you, it's no good.
@@david78212 so in other words Linux
I'm switching to Linux after having Windows 10 updates screw up my PC several times within the last 6 months or so. I will only be keeping Windows 10 installed for games I can't play on Linux (including things WINE doesn't run well).
The only reason to use Windows IMO is if you're not very computer literate/tech savvy or you have software or a job that requires you to use Windows.
Well, I currently use Windows 10 on my Dell Inspiron 22 3264 all-in-one desktop PC, which is my primary computer, and Linux Mint 19 "Sylvia" on my Lenovo IdeaCentre B320 7760-3CU all-in-one desktop PC, which is my secondary computer.
7:11 That's an ancient chart, probably from the 2000's. Linux has evolved way more than that. Almost half of those are already dead
My dad used to call me several times per month when he had Windows (8 & 8.1 on the most recent system). It got incredibly slow after 2-2.5 years, so I talked him into Linux Mint (I had misplaced my Ubuntu drive and was to lazy to re-download at 5mbps). That was 4 years ago and I've received 0 tech support calls since. I did have to show him around Linux once, but, despite using Windows 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, not ME, XP, Vista (briefly before having me install XP), 7, 8, & 8.1 over at least 20 years, he took to it like a fish takes to water. I really think ThioJoe is underestimating Linux.
Also, who does that many offline installs?
Even when I've done offline installs, it really isn't difficult and I've only needed to install dependencies once. A lot of Windows programs have dependencies too, like Adobe air.
I like dependencies. If I need a dependency for two programs, you avoid installing two copies for no reason.
So much this. Changed my GF's PC over from Windows Vista when it ran out of support by Microsoft, to Linux Mint XFCE. Zero problems. That good, I used a Dell Optiplex with a HDMI card that also used to run Vista, converted to Linux Mint Cinnamon. Bought a wireless keyboard. Voila, full blown PC through a TV with VICE, Kodi, and MAME. Bloody fantastic, she loves it.
To each his own, stay with Windows and Linux users with Linux.
My wife is a writer and cannot connect a monitor to save her life. Hated win 10. I put Linux mint on her computer and she loves it along with WPS office.
@DeathNote laptop Linux traditionally required TLP to maximize battery lifetime. Agreed not ideal. However recent versions are more and more battery capable, indeed I was listening to a respected Linux device/podcaster recently talking about achieving 12hr battery life on one of his machines.
I love Linux. I hate Windows. If software isn't available for Linux - I don't need it.
then almost every video game released.
Christian Weissmuller Well it’s more of a want and not a need. You see, you don’t need a computer on your phone but most people wanted one when it was first introduced. Before that people were still making phone calls with ease. So yea, you got a phone, you don’t need to spend more of your hard earned money on a smartphone. It’s just a luxury, and now that the prices are a staggering 1000$ for some bullshit ass Apple phone, I’ll just stick to my Samsung S4(best phone I’ve ever owned).
Actually OpenGL is a better graphics platform but overall I think DirectX is a better API. Games on Linux run worst because lack of driver support; However some games actually run just as good if not better on Linux so it depends.
I love both. I don't feel the need to religiously hate one and worship another like a damn cult. That's why I distance myself from the Linux community. They're all lunatics.
here here why would you want to surf the net on some piss ass lil screen
Linux (PROS) - most stable, free software (depending on version but most all are free), breathes new life into older computers due to the much LOWER demand on resources (requires far less CPU power and MAYBE 4gb ram to work comfortably.), Linux (most anyway) are free and you can try them without installing them, linux leaves NO traces on your computer if you do not install it, has no preinstalled spyware, most work 'out of the box', fairly EASY to install for most versions (a few clicks needed, and most auto install everything including partitioning), HIGHLY MALWARE RESISTANT, a little harder to hack (most weaknesses are in the browsers just like windows has), and many other benefits), does NOT need to be defragmented. Linux can be run from Flash drive (best) or CD/DVD/BD disk (a bit slower). Laptop battery life is longer between charges depending on version and use. You can easily spoof hardware ID's (see forums on methods). Offers KDE desktop and Cinnamon Desktop both are generally 'full featured'. Linux OS upgrades are usually free.
Linux (CONS) - lack of drivers for *SOME* computers, Not as good for some of the hardline games younger people like to play (just get an XBox or similar if that is your issue), Lack of compatibility with Windows (some exceptions though - office related items usually have no problem going back and forth), once in a while you *MIGHT* need to do command line but rarely if ever, most should have a minimal amount on computer using experience (at least know how to point and click anyway). Linux is best for machines about 3 years old or older but not more than a machine that used to run XP. Puppy Linux may still be able to run older systems. The older the computer or less resources it has the lower the desktop version needed for comfortable use (KDE is the top one)
WIndows (PROS) - Most compatible with other Windows software and systems. Best probably for new computer users just learning. Most things are fully automated. VAST amount of software out there for Windows (Linux has a lot less available but they do cover most common software desires) works better than Linux for heave graphics gameplay (but MAC beats BOTH for graphics items).
Windows (CONS) - RESOURCE HOG (many windows need at least 8gb ram to 32gb ram to work comfortably and a core i5 or better CPU), PREINSTALLED SPYWARE AND MALWARE (under the guise of being *necessary* for YOUR protection, easier to hack. allows other companies including governments to see much of what you do and allow THEM to control some of what you can and cannot do, Microsoft can lock you out of your own data and possibly your own computer. Requires antimalware program, antivirus program, and destroys any semblance of privacy you might expect. MANY CONS for windows. Windows usually can not be run from Disc or Flash Drive, lower laptop battery life (more frequent charging needed). Allows everyone out there to access your hardware ID's unless you take extraordinary steps to block them and such ID's can track you everywhere. You usually have to pay for OS upgrades and most software. On dual booting, Windows DEMANDS it comes first on the hard drive and then you could install linux as a dual boot.
Note: About Mac. Mac is a CLOSED SOURCE version of Linux. It too is filled with the same spyware issues that windows has and is far less compatible with windows than linux is (read/write/format NTFS is one issue most have). MAC is far superior to all other operating systems when it comes to graphics development. Mack is VERY VERY resistant to some issues (due to the BIOS they use).
Much depends on who you are and what you intend to use the computer for.
However, if all you do is general online things like youtube, emails, surfing, chatting, browser based flash games, similar, more privacy, linux is best. Gameplay - Windows. Graphics - Mac.
I have converted others to Linux over the years and all but ONE never went back. Reason? Proprietary medical software that demands Windows Only.
BeOS is the most hack resistant operating system ever built. But NOT for new computer users. It generally takes a computer user with loads of time to learn and know command line.
Qubes OS is OK but requires a LOT of fiddling to get to use it. Not recommended for less than computer 'experts'.
Penetration System versions of Linux also takes a masters degree (kidding) to use. VERY HARD to use.
Linux stands for Lite Unix for those who didn't know. Unix is the most common commercial server used on the planet.
Microsoft is working on open source items for it's operating system. Have to wait and see how they can incorporate that.
Just some food for thought from my personal experience and reading common things about each.
Security note about the government - no system is immune to being spied on by the 'Five Eyes'. NSA uses 'air gap' among other tools that go right through the best defenses. Many hardware components now have built in government spyware on the hardware itself. Not even BeOs is immune (but that depends). So not worth trying to do things you shouldn't do with a computer.
What people need to focus on usability for their specific needs and to take steps to keep commercial and private adversaries OUT of your business. Identity theft - stealing your money is bad enough but stealing your FREEDOM (committing crimes under your identity) can be devastating. Avoid Windows as much as you can for that reason.
Notice: Using a live version of Linux will NOT protect you from Law Enforcement (only slows them down a bit).
It DOES however make it very hard for your spouse to find anything (wink) lol
Windows ALWAYS keeps things even if it says it does not.
My daughter was about to throw away a Dell Latitude laptop from 2008 or so with a 70gb HDD and non-functioning Win7. I was looking for a second laptop, but couldn't justify the price of a new one. £32 for a 250gig SSD, Ubuntu at first and then Linux Cinnamon later, and the damn thing is as fast as my main laptop running Win 10. I only use it for internet, home network and writing professionally but I prefer it. I have a desktop with my main programmes so have little need for them on my laptops.
@@WritewheelUK Go try Mx Linux 17.1. Talk about fast and smooooth..... Even videos seem to look better when watching them. I just tried Mint 18.3 - HATED IT. Looked too much like win10 and far too hard to do much. Couldn't even sort desktop icons!
I tried Robolinux. It too was pretty quick BUT typing in web pages it typed BACKWARDS (but not in all web pages) and it had other issues.
I think you will certainly like Mx Linux 17.1.
Excellent Post, couldn't have said it better myself. The best advice is to tweak your computer to do what you want it to do. I don't play any real computer games myself, save for Solitaire, Chess and things like that, which are on both Windows and Linux. What I would like is for Linux to have it so that it's Office system would open up on Microsoft so I could do work on Linux and then send it to coworkers who use Windows and they could open it up and work on it. That is my only gripe with Linux. If you haven't tried a Linux based OS, try it, you will be amazed at how easy it operates and to use.
sorry gotta play devils advocate here, windows doesn't take 8 gigs of ram, and an i5, I ran a windows 10 laptop that had a shitty quad 2012 i3 at 2.4 GHz and 4 gigs of 1333 ram, your statement is objectively false and misleading, not everyone is a code money either, and some people just want to plug and play stuff like on windows. yes, there is a place for windows, yes there is a place for Linux, even a place for Mac users, it's just what people are comfortable with and can adapt to become comfortable with. I am very tech savvy, hardware, and software, I tried for a month to use Linux, but i personally found it annoying that there isn't just an "update button" or to access something I have to type in code in the command line, again, for some people this is fine, but for your average person they just want something for word processing and gaming, not everyone wants the most open source thing, some people want simplicity.
For win users, always keep a live usb key with linux on it. It can save your life.
I recommend Rescatux, it has a very nice wizard that you can even use to do things like reset Windows passwords!
Reason I'm thinking of going to linux is because my windows 7 will not install anything anymore !
What? How though I use Windows 7 and it is fine?
@@dyn4291 Shit I wish they kept Windows 7 and not bother withWindows 10
Alot of apps are unsupporting Windows 7, But Windows 7 still supports more apps than Linux.
@@johnnyblack4261 Me too,Windows Seven was Alot Better
@@jadoo782002able I run both Windows 7 and Windows 10 on Virtual Machine and boy, Windows 10 is so slow, laggy and takes forever for anything to load up. Windows 7 takes up for less RAM, and it is very smooth in virtual machine, everything is very quick and snappy.
I just installed Linux Mint 19 on one of my machines. In the dew days I have had it running I am well pleased. It's a bit quirky in some areas but I guess they'll become normal soon.
The main reason for this 'trial' is extreme hatred of Windows 10 which I seek to avoid at all costs. On that issue, I am so far unaware of any company - corporation - that is using Windows 10.
Every company running a Windows environment should be running Win10 on their workstations. The exploits on earlier version would represent a huge risk to their enterprise. Win10 is the primary workstation OS in the Federal Enterprise.
Our company runs windows 10. Windows 7 is out of support soon and nobody really likes the user interface of windows 8.
Most schools use Windows 10 on everything but their Chromebooks (obviously) for no particular reason that I see. I think they do that for compatibility reasons.
That said, a lot of the programs that I see teachers use (with the exception of those who teach stuff about computers) do have alternatives on Debian/Ubuntu. (Linux Mint is a nice combination of Debian and Ubuntu :) )
Yes installing software offline on Linux can be a huge pain but that can change with Snaps, Flatpak and AppImage cuz all dependencies can be stored in single .snap, .flatpak and .appimage. Users can simply download .snap for example from website like .exe and run it and it will install offline using Gnome Software as it supports .snap and .flatpak. More and more Linux distros are starting to support Snaps and Flatpak.
Mystic Bardock LSSGSS most package managers have an offline install mode
That was a surprisingly good content. I didn't expect that much quality from a random tech youtube video. Thumbs up.
I moved to linux because I was sick of windows telemetry so now im in love with my ubuntu
Yes!!
It's Manjaro for me. I always wanna be on the Bleeding Edge and Gnome is horrible IMO.
@MissRiaElaine Fedora, Cent OS and Ubuntu are backed by enterprises -> Red hat & Canonical. I'd recommend a non-enterprise distro like Solus or Deepin.
Ubuntu is like the Windows of the Linux distro world. Which can be said in a both good and bad context.
Ubuntu is a spyware too dumbass😂
Yes. Stupid question. Herd members use Windows, free thinkers use Linux.
Been using Linux distros since 2014 (Ubuntu -> a fork of Linux, Chrome OS -> Linux Mint 18) and minus the lack of Adobe stuff, I can't say I'm too limited. I have Firefox and Chrome, GIMP, Krita, LibreOffice... Yes, everything a Windows machine can do, without Microsoft all up in my business.
(I don't use iOS, so no iTunes either is NOT a deal breaker for me)
I wouldn't call Ubuntu a fork of Linux, just software that uses Linux. A fork of Linux would be something like the Linux-zen kernel.
But I'm happy you found a combination of software you're comfortable with. ^^
As far as iTunes, I don't see a point to have it. As far as music, streaming services all the way anyway.
You can use VLC to transport media from pc to phone, even without a cable if you have a wifi router at home.
ThioJoe: Saying that we have to BUY a Windows license
Me: Getting Windows 10 for free LOL
Me too
Even if I could get win10 for free, it won't run on my rig.
other people ... getting it for $20 or less
i dont see what the big deal is
paying 140$ for a shitty os
He literally addresses that in the video.
DLL Hell is an old term for a Windows problem that could be somewhat comparable to Dependency Hell.
I hear you LOUD and CLEAR !!!
Plus it sounds cooler
@J W I can see you never have been trapped in dependency hell. Dependency hell is not a big problem these days because most distros now "ship" with most of the common dependencies by default and if one is required it is easy to get them installed. But back in the day, it used to be a huge problem especially if you didn't have an internet connection. Linux is a completely different animal these days!
@@mrmasterofdiabloplay animal
Personally have experienced this multiple times on both windows 7 and 10. Haven't experienced dependency hell for years, in fact it was only once or twice on an older version of Ubuntu (14.04). On Arch, I've never really experienced dependency hell. If I'm missing a dependency of a software in it's repos or the AUR, it'll either install them for me (and ask if I want to uninstall afterwards if they aren't required to run the software) or it will list them out for me to install them myself. ez
I've used linux for over a year and I have not ONCE, ever heard of dependency hell. I always use the repos and it works amazing. In my opinion its easyer than installing on windows. Also I used to hate uninstalling software on windows, you could olny do one at a time
Of course he was talking about it in about the only scenario in which it might occur these days - installing on a computer that isn't connected to the internet. It was something that was way more likely to occur many years ago. I remember going through dependency hell like 15 years ago when trying to install software that wasn't available directly from the distro I was using. It would go something like this: run the installer. it would say that there were dependencies x, y, and z. It wouldn't tell you that dependency x was part of some other package with a completely different name. It wouldn't tell you that dependency y had 5 dependencies of its own. It wouldn't tell you that you already had dependency z, just a newer version. All of that is highly unlikely now.
I also thought it was funny when he said that he had never heard of anything like that on windows. Well, maybe he is a bit too young to have experienced it, but when dependency hell was an actual thing, Windows had DLL hell. Maybe he should do a little more research before he makes claims like that.
Linux is better for security, old computers who have trouble running Windows, a lightweight system to get basic(or advanced perhaps) things done, or generally the freedom Windows doesn't provide
Windows is better for better Steam games support and all those goodies you can't do on Linux
Still, Linux(or GNU/Linux for ya FSF diehards) is a very capable OS, and can stand daily use pretty well(It is my main OS)
Well, you can technically run Windows games on Linux. Also, most antiviruses are useless, if you don't browse unsecured websites too often.
GuastGaming & More A. Windows may be able to run on old computers, but then you’ll really be feeling the Age. Linux, however, runs smoothly on virtually all systems.
B. No.... antivirus doesn’t protect you from everything. Powershell and a zero-day can best any antivirus. However, on Linux, no Hacker is going to bother developing a zero-day, as it’s not worth it.
I can relate. I have a Pentium D like computer and Linux is a lot faster than Windows, maybe because my installation had many background programs start on login
Dhm John my laptop has only 2 gb of ram, and Linux makes it running exceptionally fast, probably going to try parrot OS, heard it’s extremely light-weight
Parrot OS isn't exactly the most light-weight, though it will probably fine and has certain advantages. The problem you start to get into when you want to be really light-weight is that you have to do a lot of the things your distro would normally do automatically yourself with really minimal distro. That's usually not necessary if you just want something to work decently on an old computer.
Yep, you said that right, dependencies problems literally suck but only when there's no internet otherwise "Sudo apt install -f" works
I don't understand why one would even use a desktop without internet... Lol 🤷♂️
That's not a problem at all. I am in love with linux, I am using it for 5 years.