Axial Wraith 1.9 Review - Exciting new model but a little disappointing
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- Full review of the Axial Wraith 1.9 here.
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Yes finally a real unbiaised review! Getting tired of rc youtubers being scared of saying the real stuff so they can still receive free products. It is slowly becoming a false maketing scheme....
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.... Two of them get MAD every time I call them out on their biased opinions!!! 😳😖😤
Thank you.
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You just saved me $370 bucks, thank you!!!
A great review as usual....the Wraith seem to look a little plastic and toyish...
#toygrade is not bad but $370 is a lot.
Well that's exactly what it is lol.
@@RCReviewChannel 300 now in my area
I've been seeing a lot of unboxings where people are singing the praises but all of the concerns you stated are everything I've been thinking. As always great to see an honest review. Thank you! I'm hoping a build kit comes out that provides upgraded parts.
Exactly!! The other two problems are big 1.9 tires with 4.7 inch diameter hit the front wheel wells and full compression on the front suspension hits the thick plastic links when both are at about half travel.
Yes, kit with upgraded/metal parts would be cool.
Great review....but the rig doesn't catch my eye as something that I would purchase, especially at the price listed. Quality should be higher for that price!!
Ok, I own this new 1.9 wraith and I'm not affiliated with anyone, I sponsor myself. I'm not one for leaving any of my RC's stock, not my style or the type of RC crawling enthusiast I've become. This rig has plenty of potential performance to be pulled out of it. I also own SCX10.2 deadbolt, honcho and CRC Jeep rigs too. The price is up there but the transmission does come with steel gears and it does have better stock interior than the deadbolt. The hood also opens and that makes swapping batteries out fast and easy. If you look at the price point of the honcho and deadbolt and CRC Jeep, I think this price point for the wraith is decent. Once I dialed in the shock positions in their alternate mounting locations this lowered the squat and offered a nice ride hight to work with. I actually think it handles a lot better than all 3 of my SCX10.2's in stock form as I was able to outclimb the same runs in my back yard rock garden. Now to each his own, since adding my alloy wheels, sticky tires, CVD front axles, and better shocks, and borrowed the unused CRC steel links for panhard, steering and upper links only, I'm very impressed with the new 1.9 Wraith's abilities. I like how they painted the body, silver on the interior of the body and mate orange or black on the exterior. This silver color has started to shine through where the rock rash has come in contact with the outside of the body and is now adding a nice worn effect. I'd say there is no substitute for trying something out yourself and experimenting with something's full potential. Reviews are nice and opinions may vary but there isn't that single best RC vehicle out there for everyone to want to go out and buy. I can say that the designers blended several platforms together, taking the strengths from them to create something that wasn't out there in the market right now. This platform is lite weight and I think it's balanced pretty good with 60% front, 40% rear, The battery tray or lack thereof one is not a big deal, either add a small strip of styrene that runs across to both sides or just use some velcro to attach the engine bay top cage cross bar, it works great with my shorter length sized LiPo's! I also find the COG a lot better than my SCX10.2, seems more balanced than my deadbolt too. Now that Chevy blazer may be a looker but it sure seems to get hung up on the rocks quite a bit, the approach angles cannot compete with the new Wraith 1.9 but now you're talking a 1/10th custom offroad platform vs a street weekend warrior ride. For me, the fun part is tinkering with something to make it my own and see what performance gains I can squeeze out of it to compete or have fun with. Over this past weekend I entered a timed crawling event, they made me run class 3, I still need to read why it's in class 3 for SORRCA rules but that said I still got 1st place and won me $25.00. So with that, I will say I like it and am happy to have added it to our RC crawler home!
Appreciate the share. That's what it's all about. This vehicle has a good core and is worth upgrading.
I just got one of these today.
Pros: (some are my opinion)
1. Controller - Looks very cheap but feels really good, allows for a good amount of adjustability, never gave me any issues.
2. Body quality - Panels themselves are very durable and feel pretty high quality for plastic. They also flex, so getting them caught, even pretty tight, hasn't damaged them.
3. Aftermarket support - It is very lightweight and easy to transport, and has many options for aftermarket support
4. Torque - Had more torque even with just the stock motor, than it could ever need.
Cons
1. Tires - not great, could probably use a wider or softer set
2. Stance - Axles are not wide enough, which causes limitation in the ability of the suspension (Is fixable with wheel spacers for ~$10).
Notable statements:
1. Really surprised me with its ability to get out of almost every situation I put it through
2. Can squeeze through some pretty tight places with good control
3. Battery lasts forever with the stock configuration
4. Never had a problem with ground clearance, but the topheaviness was an issue throughout some of my tests. I feel like this could be fixed with some aftermarket steel parts such as driveshafts, axles, and links.
5. It really looks good and I love the LED lights
I just started to get into crawlers. I have 2 scx24 and I’m kind of leaning toward this to be my first 1/10 scale crawler.
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Great review Francis, thank you so much. Your absolutely right about the early access, none of them have anything bad to say and it’s becoming quite intolerable for me. I’m not here for just entertainment I want to be educated and not have my time wasted. Thanks for the education.
Exactly. We love promoting and growing the sport too. But rave reviews on every single aspect or blind loyalty is not helpful.
I was looking at this model to. I want to thank you for this review. It explained alot. It alsoxexpose some gimmicks that if you weren't in the hobby it could affect your wallet. Appreciate you brother😁👍👍👍
Right on. We want to help folks enjoy the hobby by helping them understand the good and the bad of a vehicle.
For me I would jump all over it for 299$ but to me it's way over priced but that's like every Axial I guess lol.
*COULDN'T AGREE MORE* that it's WORTH $250-300, and that Axial overcharges for everything since the OG Deadbolt and Ridgeline came out...
I have to agree with you guys too I really like this rig but high price for not having better quality parts and an unlicensed body
New Sport kit is a better option
A key problem we didn't mention is unlike most 1/10 vehicles where one can get a lighter body for appearance and performance, it's not an option here. The plastic skin only weighs about 50 grams. Most of the weight comes from the cage.
Something to think about in case you want to improve the body or the Center of Gravity.
although I agree with you the price is a little high and the transmitter isn't very pretty I haven't had the other issues that you've mentioned. my 1.9 will certainly go anywhere my trx-4 will and I actually find it less top heavy than my trx-4. To be honest it's become my go-to rig and the one I generally pick up
That is great to hear!!! Any mods on your 1.9? What kind of TRX-4 do you have?
@@RCReviewChannel at the moment apart from a bit of suspension tuning with oils and turning the lower rear links upside down to give more clearance it's stock. I've got 2 trx-4s a bronco and a sport. obviously the sport is a better crawler than the bronco but I'm finding the 1.9 tips over less than that
I own over 25 Crawler’s and can tell you this rig performs very well on the terrain I’ve had mine out on. Choice of line and driver intelligence can make or break any rig. Had one of mine out today and it was easily one of the best performing rigs in the group.
Just bought mine last night. Put Rock Beast XLs and aluminum wheels before I put a battery in it. Changed out the servo and added a BEC in the first ten minutes of run time. Now it works pretty well. I like it.
Yup. Heavier weight down low keeps it balanced. Metal links will improve clearance and steering. CVDs too. It's got a good core.
Great review as usual 👍👍👍 always honest
I will wait patiently for a builders kit. I really want one of these, but my crc wasn’t much more than this and it came with much better parts.
Yeah the price of this is a joke
triangleswinger RC no kidding, is this $70 better than a deadbolt? I love my wraith, bomber, and scx10ii but I can’t justify spending that kind of money on something that needs links, universals and electronics to even hang with my crc or trx4. Elephant in the room is the trx4 sport is the same money and more capable. Not an apples to apples comparison, but still....
High center of gravity AND poor ground clearance. So literally the worst of all worlds. Enough said. Avoid.
I've tried that hpi crawler king and maverick scout rc, compared to those my wraith 1.9 are a king of kings.
I know this is a few years ago, now i got the wraith to 420 USD....on sale....but that's Norway for you, hehe.
The deadbolt over here costs 400 usd.
Price should be $320 and the radio replaced. Have had plenty of stock Tactic radios and no problem. Low level spectrums are horribly glitchy. The Wraith would do better with better radio.
In the end I love mine, no regrets buying it, and performs better with my futaba.
Exactly. We used a different radio for all our testing too.
starting to #trust thank you.
put cvd on it test turning radius will be the same as an sxc10 at the same wheel base so bad comparison dog bones plastic links for 80 less is still steep needs to drop a bit more or lower the scx10.2 1955 ford f100 rtr price
I would much wrather buy a d deadbolt way better buy.
Yes, way more upgrade options when it comes to components, bodies.
@@RCReviewChannel ...and bumpers, rock sliders, etc!
do you know if you can run a 3s 120c battery on the stock electronics?
its 330-340 scx10.2 is 409 the deadbolt has more downgrades.
I've checked them out at the local shops it's just a deadbolt with a cheap plastic wraith chassis and a jacked up price! The real bummer is it's got the cheap flexible single piece ar44 axle housings that bend under very little load! My scc10.2 raw builders kit started slipping diff gears within 3 months and axle housings had stretched bad! Shimming helped for a bit but I had to upgrade to SSD pro44 axle housings it fix the issue! Check out my video on it:
th-cam.com/video/NavYEUEI4gY/w-d-xo.html
I think you nailed this one. Its not even close to trx4 sporf or the kit and miles away from the Gen8. Great review!
Great review brother!
I bought this rig and while it's not a comp crawler it is VERY capable I got mine for $329! It's a great starter and now a year later alot of upgrades available! I was watching a video With Josh from Harley designs,Matt from SBG and Rich Trujillo from Axial and all made a huge point about the status of the Hobby and how some are being made to feel that they won't even come out to events due to the classes and the mods. The wraith 1.9 straight out of the box is a capable fun rig and that's the HONEST truth. I started in RC ground hobby way back in 1983 with a Tamiya Brat.Frog (Same chassis) the Hobby has come along way and while everyone wants a Vanquis VS4 10 we make due...This guy who reviewed this Rig never met a Traxxas he didn't like
Nothing about this truck has impressed me yet save 1 thing, your honest review instead of all the BS hype guys are spewing because they got early release freebies.
New Sport kit is a better option
Totally agree why spend 370 on an all plastic rig it's pretty stupid how high the price is, even the damn chassis is plastic the deadbolt is a way better buy at least you get metal chassis for 299$
Do you have a review for the Wraith Spawn
It's 300 here where I live.
How does it compare to the old Wraith?. Which is better I your opinion?
This is better, but not by much. Can be upgraded to lower the CG significantly.
The axle c hubs are weak to if you land on your tire right it will snap it off and then you have to replace the axle housing. You can retrofit aftermarket one for the scx10 2 to beef it up some.
I got lucky and was able to buy a demo model from my lhs. I bought several upgrades for it, including steel links, and managed to upgrade most of them, but then I took a break and thought about it, and ultimately decided to undo the upgrades so I can sell it. I don't like it, and would rather put time toward my SCX10 II Dingo project, or revert that one back to the Deadbolt that it started out as. I think this Wraith 1.9 was really about scale aesthetics, and not about releasing a genuinely new model. Enthusiasts who like the Wraith 1.9 look will be drawn toward this model, but I agree that it's not recommended as a 'first crawler', unless the price were drop below $340.
good insight
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Fanboy reviews help no one. Want to guide folks towards the good products and the right products for them.
Thank you for always giving an honest opinion with the good AND bad of each vehicle. Keep it up!
Would you choose this over a Gen8 or Scx2 blazer?
The tires on my Axial scx10 II Honcho has the same issues with the tires they wobble as bad as the ones shown
I was thinking about this or a redcat gen8. Thank you for a honest review
I got this car. Your review is spot on correct. I got new tires/wheels and steel links. Extra 200.00.
So, not a bad car for 570 plus or minus dollars? Definitely not worth it. Still, I like this car. It is what You can
expect from a RTR. Not a big fan of Axial.
Exactly. We appreciate your comment. Not everyone likes to hear less than perfect reviews but we think we deliver more benefit when we outlined the strengths and weaknesses of a product.
Good and honest review!
You help me to understand this new vehicle !
The only assertion I don't agree is about Axial Blazer: I have it and is the worst Crawler among Wrangler, Honcho and Traxxas's Sport, Bronco.
Blazer hangs up everywhere, not all tires can be mounted because of few space with the bodyshell...in my opinion not good for crawling but only for mountain paths not so hard.
Right on. Appreciate it. Yes the Blazer body is very big and has to be trimmed for good performance. It has a good heart though. :)
@@RCReviewChannel I agree, we have done some trimming and approach/departure angle are quite better, bit still far away from "trimmed" Bronco (even if it has a similar big body).
Sport, Wrangler and Honcho (from our RC set) are at a different lever when approaching big steps !
bought it just because I wanted the chassis... lol
One thing to remember when watching this video... if you are tempted to make excuses for the Axial Wraith because the courses look tough, look at the other videos on this channel to see 90% of the other stock vehicles tested negotiate this exact same course with no trouble at all. The Traxxas TRX4 Sport, Axial SCX10 II Chevy Blazer, and even the Redcat Gen 8 Scout II were able to complete these same lines. Thanks again for a great review.
Exactly. It drove just like a Deadbolt. But it seems the Deadbolt is way easier to upgrade and make quite capable.
It seems less top heavy than other options out there.
The biggest thing I've seen in this video of it being top heavy is you taking a bad line over a rock.
And yes it w could do with some aluminium wheels, and other parts, but that's things that most RTR's need.
Appreciate the feedback. We've done these lines hundreds, maybe thousands of times and these quick edits are just samples of our general experience. We'll often take harder lines to explore the limits.
Great video. I love your honest reviews
Curious how it compares to the Spawn and Bomber, been seriously thinking about getting one of those 2. Leaning toward the Spawn since it comes stock with the bead lock wheels
Those are both 2.2 platforms. This Wraith 1.9 is about the same as a Deadbolt, performance-wise. It all depends on what you want to do, or what capabilities you want. The Spawn is a pretty good rig, and there'll be way more hop up options for it.
I want one of these to put a fast motor in it and bash it
The more and more I learn about Axial the more and more I am glad I bought a Traxxas. The Axial Bomber still intrigues me though.
Good observation. Their Bomber is their best vehicle and it is getting a major update before Christmas.
Axial's parent company went bankrupt last year and they had to slow down R&D. Horizon Hobbies bought them now though and it looks like they are starting to develop some good new products again.
The builders kit is great choice, also love our Deadbolt,but replaced dog bones and links before we drove it.
absolutely agreed
Thank you for this video
TRX-4 Sport out performs this rig.
Otto Tarnowske definitely 👍🏼
Box stock, it will be a shutout.
Slightly off topic but what in your opinion is the reason for better performance of the 69 chevy over the crc jeep . Body type,centre of gravity? Or mechanical ? I think I may have heard the Chevy has a different gearing but not sure.Thanks for great reviews and the information we need.
That is a good one. The gearing and less torque steer is a factor for sure. The Chevy seems to sit better with its weight. Articulates really well.
At the end of the day, they are probably really close. The Chevy body is just so much better made than the red Jeep CRC body.
Thanks for the honest review I'm hovering between gen 8 ,trx4sport,axial chevy, in the UK where I live they are all the same price £360 for scale and realistic performance I'm leaning toward the Chevy .looking forward to your next review
Love your videos. Very informative
appreciate it
My Honcho had 1 of the tires messed up. The QC for the people gluing the tires needs to be stepped up BIG TIME! I had to un-glue mine to fix it.
the wobble is something I've never seen in any kit and I've tried a lot lately.
@@RCReviewChannel Agreed! These aren't cheap, this QC level isn't acceptable. I'd prefer they didn't glue the tires at all and let us do it. Truth be told, the tire I fixed had a spot where the mold release was (a little knot). I cut that off and adjusted the bead a little bit and then they glued up fine.
What Horizon Hobby did to Axial: not allowing coupon, discontinuing Score Trophy, using Losi connector
what does 'not allowing coupon' mean? Curious.
Not allowing coupons help the retailer.
Another meh from Axial.
Yes, no, meh :)
Would have been pretty cool 3 years ago. But the competitive landscape is different now with everyone pushing the performance, value envelope.
But they are headed in the right direction, really ramping updates.
Thank you for a real review on this
plastic links. poor turning radius / dogbones and way over priced.
I found myself going through a lot of your videos during this lockdown and they're very informative, you've nailed the art of good videos and great channel
Much appreciated. What's cool is our videos have improved so much over the last two years. But even looking at our early stuff, they still seem relevant and unbiased. Maybe not using all the right terms and looking cool. :)
@@RCReviewChannel not many channels do an unbiased view point, the plus and minus points are very good and do help with potential future purchases, my current thoughts are between the Redcat Gen 8 & TRX Sport 🤔
So price aside , seeing as that's mostly peoples gripe is it worth it ? I went with this over a trx4 blazer I figured I could personalize this with the 160 price difference
By worth it I mean can you see it performing really well with something like high clearance links and some better tires ? Or is it just not a great design for crawling In comparison to other models il be mostly crawling like in this video
Yes, definitely. It's an Axial so it's got a good core. Metal in the key parts and great tires and heavy wheels will do a lot for this. Fun and different too.
@@RCReviewChannel lmao I'm so paranoid about my purchase now .. I just hope it crawls well and doesnt get hung up every 2 seconds or flip over . You drove it yourself? Did it seem overly top heavy or the balance not to bad? . Thanks for the in depth un bias reviews bro very much appreciated
SCX10.2 Blazer is not the same price point though.
True! It's $30 more but such a better value!!!
@@RCReviewChannel What? The TRX4 Blazer is $479.95 that is over $100 more + Battery + Charger for someone to just get into the hobby. I will give the Wraith 1.9 is bit over priced but it is Axial's newest RTR.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
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Good review great details changed my perspective a lot being from Hawaii with no hobby shops it’s a hit and miss while purchasing a new RC not being able to see it In person thank you
oceanviewRC no hobby shops? thats rough bro Hawaii seems like paradise for RC’s.
Voodoo Trucking Co. yea no RC shops on the big island of Hawaii where I live out 8 islands in Hawaii only Oahu has a rc shop crazy...
oceanviewRC oh yeah ok ive been to Oahu and Maui hopefully the Big Island someday. Aloha bro happy RC’ing 🤙🏻
Seems like a pretty cool little rig. I’m not regretting getting the TRX4 Sport , Bronco and Blazer instead one bit tho 😉
It's a little different and can make a good project. Wish it was under 3 bills.
RC Review it should definitely be under 3 bills considering the lack of premium parts.
@@RCReviewChannel 2 years later i picked one up anyway. Winter build to make it a great crawler.
Wish this video had come out sooner.
It's got a good core so it has potential. Just wish that other outlets were more balanced about their reviews too.
I agree, way too expensive
Yup. Would be a good deal and seller for $270
1.9 just seems to small
for sure. And they use the small 1.9s at 4.3 inches in diameter. The bigger ones like the 4.7 inch (at the end of the video) are way better. But they rub on this vehicle.
COOL LOVE IT
Much thanks. First comment? :)
I have the same wheel wobble on my deadbolt 2, honcho and jeep jk. Called Axial and they said that's normal. Wth... Any fixes you know of?
Crazy huh? Not the end of the world but annoying for this kind of money.
@@RCReviewChannel you're right. I can't understand why it does it? Is it the wheels or the axel hex or??
No, that’s complete BS, it’s not normal. It’s just lazy quality/finishing control on their part. Axial has always been notorious with wobbly tires. If you want to keep the stock rims and tires, you’ll have to remove the tires by boiling them or put them in a sealed ziplock bag with acetone (in a well ventilated area) remove all trace of glue on the rims and the tire. When refitting, make sure that the bead is really snug in the rim and doesn’t have any excess rubber on the bead from the casting, reinstall the wheels on the truck to make sure they don’t wobble and adjust if needed and then gently reapply glue into the bead. This always works for me.
Your own beadlocks and wheels is the only option since axial doesn't seem to know how to properly mount tires lol.
@@waffleattacks so it's the way the tires are glued to the wheels.... Man! I'll just buy tires and wheels separately and glue them myself
Can you review an Axial Spawn please? Actually, maybe not, I have watched most of your videos. I have the Traxxas TRX4 Sport. In your opinion it seems like it is ranked 1 king of the hill currently. My question is, overall, is it pretty much the best pure crawler out there from your experience? Meaning, what do i get next in the crawler world that I am not compromising and getting an inferior vehicle? Money is limited so I cannot have them all!!!! ;)
Thank you for an honest review. The concerns that you mention mirror my own opinion of the truck, which were formed from Every review that I saw, even though they were puff pieces from channels that were "given" these trucks to review. You know who you are!
Phew!! Glad I went with the trx4!
Those wobbly wheels tho LOL. just terrible QC from axial.
The wobbly wheels don't mean anything. It 8s because of how it was packaged, after a week of use the wheels normalized