I like this OS a lot but i also think it might have some issues. The first thing is that while its good against V-shift itself, you have to take into consideration that for the most part not only would the KD advantage play a big part on if this is applicable or not, also the pressure routes to take for doing that usually would result in a weaker pressure on wakeup situations. This probably favors characters with strong neutral game though. And like you said, a wakeup button will beat that and probably wakeup armor attacks as well and the backdashes will depend a lot on the KD and the range you got to apply this from. Cause even with the throw OS, that's highly reliant on the KD to get the punish, as an example Mika can get st.HP from a peach KD but not from a Brimstone, etc I am also starting to have a feeling that wakeup V-shift isn't gonna be used as much as we go and people instead would shift to delayed V-shift or V-shift mid strings and not really on wakeup, cause most of the times you don't get anything vs light and medium meaties as well as the ease of being baited. I think its still a solid option to consider especially coupled with the throw OS but i guess we will see where it will go from here.
Random thing: Certain characters. Such as Ed. Or characters with a slow EX reversal. Can punish V-shift break on wake-up with something like this (as Ed) I use: meaty cr.mp if they V-shift break I can use Ex Upper on reaction to punish it.
Since this video came out, it appears that you can combo after ex donkey kick from almost anywhere. What changed? Do you have to have a certain v skill or v trigger setup? Thanks Jimmy
Thanks Jimmy! For the advanced option what if you used CLK into SLP plus SHK instead? Then you could get a crush counter dash up combo for even more reward.
I know is not V-Shift related but I imagine many Ryu mains are on the comment session. When should one use jumping h.punch vs jumping h.kick? Are they completely interchangeable?
does the last one mean delaying my 2lk more than 10 frames? it seems to me that this could be more risky than faster delayed 2lk, for I'm more likely to be thrown by delayed tech.
Earliest 2lk you can do with Ryu is on frame 7, otherwise it will trigger V-Shift. Frame 7 is not a bad timing though, it's actually a bit early instead of late.
@@mdz_jimmy I thought delayed tech was about 5 frames delayed so i had to frame 6 2lk or faster as a Chung Li Player to punish it, now i know i was wrong.
@@吳欲-v5y If you're opponent has perfect meaty throw timing the throw lands on frame 3 because you're throw invincible on the first 2 frames on wakeup in SFV. The tech window is 7F so the latest tech you can do against a meaty throw is on frame 9. But even if the opponent techs a bit earlier (frame 7) your delayed 2LK will still beat it since it comes out on frame 10 if you time it right.
Hello! which characters are absolute trash and lowest tier now? Are nash and ken balanced or weak? My favourite design character Nash, Urien, G, Ken, Ryu, Ed. What u can say about this character? I buy SF5 few days and think about main.
Character strength shouldn't matter to you as long as you haven't reached competitive play. What will matter however is ease of play for beginners. Ken, Ryu & Ed are solid characters for beginners (and also not bad for competitive play) while Nash, Urien & G are more difficult to use. Nash is probably the worst choice if you're looking for a character that is good for competitive play.
Solo tienes que mirar lo que esta haciendo ryu. Es un ejemplo para opciones selecionales que se activan dependiendo en tiempo que tu presas los botones cuando se levantan. Y cobre situaciones multipales.
![How to Time your Attacks on Wakeup! [Mini Meaty Tutorial]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VYWMitl2WwA/mqdefault.jpg)
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whaaat? The long awaited tutorial is here?
0:38 I had to do a double-take there, I thought Ryu just did a double jump lol.
Great video btw, very informative.
thats a good ass tutorial, i love those kind of videos where u can see the hardwork of the content creator, this is true content creating
Good stuff! Much appreciated.
Excellent video, Jimmy. Thank you.
Best tutorial out so far
I like this OS a lot but i also think it might have some issues. The first thing is that while its good against V-shift itself, you have to take into consideration that for the most part not only would the KD advantage play a big part on if this is applicable or not, also the pressure routes to take for doing that usually would result in a weaker pressure on wakeup situations. This probably favors characters with strong neutral game though.
And like you said, a wakeup button will beat that and probably wakeup armor attacks as well and the backdashes will depend a lot on the KD and the range you got to apply this from. Cause even with the throw OS, that's highly reliant on the KD to get the punish, as an example Mika can get st.HP from a peach KD but not from a Brimstone, etc
I am also starting to have a feeling that wakeup V-shift isn't gonna be used as much as we go and people instead would shift to delayed V-shift or V-shift mid strings and not really on wakeup, cause most of the times you don't get anything vs light and medium meaties as well as the ease of being baited.
I think its still a solid option to consider especially coupled with the throw OS but i guess we will see where it will go from here.
very very very cool! I've never heard about special cancels before! and I played this game for 4 years :D
So we now have many layers of mind games in SFV...
Isn't this exactly what people wanted?
no, the OS would eliminate some of the options.
Oooh! On their wakeup, block, then c LK, c LP+HK! I never knew that! 👍
Good stuff. 👍🏻
Great tutorial. ✨
Jimmy your tutorial is so good
Tech and anti tech for both V-Shift and the OS? NICE
I follow you on twitch, but now you got a sub on youtube :3
Thank you for this tutorial! Great Job!
Awesome work! It might work with Gill crLK,LP+crMP I will try it! Thanks
Random thing: Certain characters. Such as Ed. Or characters with a slow EX reversal. Can punish V-shift break on wake-up with something like this (as Ed) I use: meaty cr.mp if they V-shift break I can use Ex Upper on reaction to punish it.
Well bois, looks like the bank with all the gems of wisdom is open....
LETS GET IT!!!! 💎💎💎
no champagne this time ? *profound sadness* (Ｔ▽Ｔ)
@@ChaoSTrophicS 🍾😎 I got you covered
@@deep1012 (๑•̀ᄇ•́)و ✧ ma Man!
@@ChaoSTrophicS 😎👍
MDZJimmy of all people saying, "what's up guys." Is the most scariest and weirdest thing ever.
I knew this was going to happen
Since this video came out, it appears that you can combo after ex donkey kick from almost anywhere. What changed? Do you have to have a certain v skill or v trigger setup? Thanks Jimmy
I made a second tutorial after they changed the behavior: th-cam.com/video/-aRV9_j4GUE/w-d-xo.html
Cant wait until people make crazy vshift plays in tournaments
Thank you Senpai!
So heavy sweep for the win? Got it!
Thanks Jimmy! For the advanced option what if you used CLK into SLP plus SHK instead? Then you could get a crush counter dash up combo for even more reward.
doesn't work because crLK doesn't chain into stLP.
8 people don’t want others to have this knowledge lol
oh hell yeah!!!
I know is not V-Shift related but I imagine many Ryu mains are on the comment session. When should one use jumping h.punch vs jumping h.kick? Are they completely interchangeable?
does the last one mean delaying my 2lk more than 10 frames? it seems to me that this could be more risky than faster delayed 2lk, for I'm more likely to be thrown by delayed tech.
Earliest 2lk you can do with Ryu is on frame 7, otherwise it will trigger V-Shift. Frame 7 is not a bad timing though, it's actually a bit early instead of late.
@@mdz_jimmy thanks
@@mdz_jimmy I thought delayed tech was about 5 frames delayed so i had to frame 6 2lk or faster as a Chung Li Player to punish it, now i know i was wrong.
@@吳欲-v5y If you're opponent has perfect meaty throw timing the throw lands on frame 3 because you're throw invincible on the first 2 frames on wakeup in SFV. The tech window is 7F so the latest tech you can do against a meaty throw is on frame 9. But even if the opponent techs a bit earlier (frame 7) your delayed 2LK will still beat it since it comes out on frame 10 if you time it right.
@@mdz_jimmy thanks a lot.
Okay, I gotta be more careful using V-shift against you lol...
*Muttering fearfully*
They need to buff vshift to the max at this point
Hello! which characters are absolute trash and lowest tier now? Are nash and ken balanced or weak? My favourite design character Nash, Urien, G, Ken, Ryu, Ed. What u can say about this character? I buy SF5 few days and think about main.
Character strength shouldn't matter to you as long as you haven't reached competitive play. What will matter however is ease of play for beginners. Ken, Ryu & Ed are solid characters for beginners (and also not bad for competitive play) while Nash, Urien & G are more difficult to use. Nash is probably the worst choice if you're looking for a character that is good for competitive play.
I don't want to do one of smart-ass but, do you mean by any chance, Street fighter FIVE?
He says SF4 OS are back as a reference to a backdash Option Select in SF4, I think...
@@Official_Loafalthelilly oh. If so, then sorry. I didn't knew.
@@ummet5532
Its all good lol
So basically they went and implemented some of SF4 mechanics to give more dept to sfV they just named it V shift from V to 4 lol
SF5 stans won't admit it either. The v-shift itself is a variation of FADC and the same OS punishes from SF4 carry over.
@@Demon_Curse exactly my first thought, it’s a weak version FADC and to add invincibility that they removed from the beginning
Where’s the link to FAT?
In the description as I said in the video.
@@mdz_jimmy oh, it wasn’t there oringinally
@@jshxdx2886 You must have been incredibly early then lol Yes I did update the description a couple of minutes after publishing ;)
Nicesir
What rank is considered intermediate?
yours
@@multechpro7151 im between low gold and ultra silver
Fuckin Nerds! God I love ya!
I don't play sf5 still am here,am I crazy?
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No se ingles :'(
Solo tienes que mirar lo que esta haciendo ryu.
Es un ejemplo para opciones selecionales que se activan dependiendo en tiempo que tu presas los botones cuando se levantan. Y cobre situaciones multipales.
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16 frames are not reactable, especially not online lmao.
Cammy players have to hit confirm a 15 frame cancel window