I mean let's be honest in not even I big Tekken fan and I can admit Feng is one of the sickest fighting game Characters I wish Doa had Characters like him only Goated character we got is Hayabusa the rest either alright or mid
@@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 I've only played DoA5 roster but why isnt anyone else cool like Hayabusa? Do they need crazy ninja moves or something?
@sobervision1049 well I don't mean gameplay wise just mean as characters in general like Brad's my guy but most of them are kinda generic but not talking gameplay I love Doa as a game but none of them really feel iconic enough Jann Lee is alright I like him better than Law Eliots okay I guess Leon is cool Zack meh Hayate ehh he's alright Genfu is cool but I think you get what I'm saying
"We heard about your complaints and we decided to give Feng Wei a launching 1+2 break throw as well as a ground breaking 2 break throw and a wall splatting 1 break throw. We really hope this will make your experience playing the game greater."
@@reservationatdorsias3215 His unseeable low launcher only accessible from backturn that is death on block and needs clean hit? B1 was already nerfed from -10 to -12, and other characters have 10 frame ch tools that are just as strong if not better His damage isn’t even that high outside of walls, tf are people talking about lmao
@@sheeneemee i mean. . .the bt low has to be clean hit, i'd be broken if it wasn't, but seeing all the strings that lead him to point blank bt and then the fact that he practically gets a free bt mixup in heat from the tornado kick thing, it kinda stacks. But he does do a lot of damage depending on the stage. Of course walls would do more, but the reward he gets from very basic and low risk mixups (like that safe mid launcher) inflates the amount of times he's getting a knockdown. I don't think he should be nerfed into the ground, but a couple tuning patches would be fine. It's an absolute struggle to play him, even knowing the matchup.
The entire point of choosing a character is to fit one own play style the best. If you have damage + frames you can't have that evasion, if you have evasion + frames + utility you cant have damage too. It is really simple to see what each character can/can't do and some of them are clearly over the board. And I'm not even considering shit like power crushes/pc heat engagers just by looking at that you can tell who's going to struggle and who's not.
Despite character moves. Tekken 8 for me is a pain because of the damage popular characters have. Even from just pokes. 3-4 hits can easily land you 50-70%. Heatsmash 45-60%. Rage art 40-60%. You guess wrong once and it's either you are on life support or fishing in the afterlife. It leaves no room for mistakes unless you got nerves of steel like most pros or top players do. Defense exists but it's like hiding behind wet cardboard against a brick.
All the free stuff on ch, sweet frames on punishes and his offense flows so well no matter what. He has an answer for for everything, there’s no locking him down, but he can lock you down.
I still remember when Feng got uber-buffed in the season 4 patch of Tekken 7, and has basically stayed there and only gotten light wrist-slaps in subsequent nerfs. JDCR in one of his streams was explaining why it was a problem, when one guy asked: "He has had this since T7 launch, why is he broken now?" to which JDCR replied: " because his damage was low. He had low to below average punish and combo damage both, which effectively balanced out him all super moves" looking at this video, it still holds true. The only way to properly balance this character is to give a damage nerf across all of his moves.
Has Feng Wei won ANY major tournaments? He seems to top a lot, but every time I watch footage of him in a tournament (I main Feng so I watch him a lot) he's losing. So until he begins to dominate the tournament scene by winning, he won't receive any significant nerfs. Because truth is, he's not the easiest character to pick up. He needs ALL of his tools to deal with heavy rush down characters, and that's a lot to commit to memory. As good as he is, he seems to be lacking that EXPLOSIVENESS of other characters like Reina and Victor. Which is why they usually come in higher in tournament placement.
Exactly my guy . Winning with Feng means outplaying your opponent for the entire round . He doesn’t have a panic counter hit tool that can take half life like the top tiers .
I found a bug, if you block his 3+4 in heat and get the ground stump... IF YOU CROUCH to block lows and duck highs/throws in the BT mix, his BT 1 WHICH IS A HIGH IS GUARANTEED IF YOU DUCK and followed up by shoulder. It is a bug, and they never fixed it even though I mentioned it twice...
@zangana3052 it is kind of a feature. Whats happening is that your neutral guard isnt active at -12, and youre holding down instead of back to block. You literally dont have time to duck because of the stun animation. Definitely needs a nerf but theyll probably just add another +1 frames to his parry startup and call it a day
@@kingkino2116 I get you, but you are mistaken. BT 4 is 10i and you can duck and launch when you're -12 after blocking 3+4 in heat. I lab my stuff broski. haha.
I feel like feng is their benchmark for what Tekken should be, or where they want it to go. Seems like most new chars are getting the hard read tools that feng has had for a minute like kenpo and ch high crush lows
I've been a Feng player since his debut. I bought Tekken 7 in the season 2 phase when everyone said he is tricky but takes a lot of effort to damage and has poor travel with his combos. I vowed to master him for the game but as soon as his weaknesses were fixed its been annoying to play with him because I feel less rewarded for skill and a lot of players lab him.
I think his df4 mix-ups deserve a mention. df4,3 is mid, high and a natural combo. The first hit has long reach, start up frame is 15, the second hit is safe on block, and +15 on hit. So if the opponent doesn't respect it and don't try to duck the second hit, you can spam df4,3 with impunity.
Question; would replacing Feng back 3 with his original back 3,3 from T7 make him more balanced? I mean personally, I just like the animation of that move more sooo......
Actually the Parry change was due to Forward Kenpo Tech > 2(Bao Dan Po) which is a Power Crush that leads to so many frames of being Invulnerable to any attack.. It still works though and is not that impacted by the nerf since the changes only affects the Startup and of course it is not reactable when used to counter. It leads to a full combo as well on normal hit.
For tha feng mains that might not know about this, when u use shifting clouds (f3+4) 2, if ur holding b, it puts him into his bt options without seeing tha bt animation, so after hitting f3+4, 2, hold b during 2, then u can do all bt options instantly, its so quick, no-one sees it coming
He already did a video about DEN 3 and uf3+4,4 Other than that Lars isn't bullshit and is more or less the same as he has always been albeit with some minor buffs.
you often complain about Feng since Tekken 7, on the other hand you don't talk about the just indecent buffs of Bryan, Leroy and Zafina Besides, Feng's combo damage has been nerfed which I find totally absurd since absolutely all the characters in the game have high combo damage.
@@mr.almezeini647 No. But it definitely implies that he's not as strong as everyone is crying about. Maybe he's harder to play than people give him credit for???
So. Gr8 video as usual. Theres a couple honorable mentions i feel obligated to share. So pub stomper db222.. obvi not good. But against caz as im saying, free af. And it too.. launches. Db22, launches. In this game. On normal hit, low low. True story. He also has insane buttons an frames on f32 -3?? Db14 -2??? They are both his. But he has mid follow ups off both of these first moves F34.. hit confirmable launching string.. mortal kombat move.. fr. F34 an f32 is literally what made feng my personal favy char when i first started playing And a MUST mention imo Feng also has a backswing blow.. that launches.... on CH nbd. Maybe u did mention the backswing blow.. im hopin not. But ne way, ya. Fengs pretty good.. d4 1+2.. low mid. -10 if they block it. Pretty good.
I was looking for this video. As a feng main stuck in Garyu I feel personally attacked.... but I'm taking notes 😂 Please tell me more. Strings, frame traps, all the bs is welcome 🤣
Not a single feng in top 96 combo breaker, no one mains him despite being the “best” character, and you don’t see him that frequently in ranked either. You have yet to convince me that he’s broken, and he won’t be touched because he was already nerfed once (rightfully) and has 0 representation anyway.
word. These onlinescrub tier lists are lies. All of them are designed to downplay there own mains (speedkicks placed whoooeeerang in the lower middle of the pack, while mainmanscrub downplays kazuya) while overexaggerating other characters.
meanwhile "s tier xiaoyu" are never seen in tourneys and "s tier fengs" are only seen by character specialists who have been playing him for a decade or longer.
I agree he's not op or broken people overhype but defiantly was a feng player at combo breaker placed 25th mateo played off stream check and look at standings
@@viniciuslessa3480 shaheen is a monster and you didn't see him that much. Some people just don't play certain characters. Feng still isn't played too much across the player base, regardless of his win rate.
@@viniciuslessa3480 kinda. Some characters like Feng are visibly insane, but there are plenty of characters that are underplayed in how good they are. Feng just needs tuning, that's all. He shouldn't have literally a perfect version of every tool in the game. I mean, his literally existance invalidate Leo as a character. He's just Leo on crack.
I love watching a Feng pop heat and get to use these absurd moves multiple times but as Lars I get an armored tackle that does nearly no damage into a mix that may only be hard to read due to all the visual effects. Speaking of, I kinda wish Lars got that motion blur from T6. Anyways, a weak tackle and two attacks get upgraded to do something they should already do on counter hit, one of those moves being an attack that used to be a decent option out of monkey flip but was removed to make monkey flip exclusively a tracking tool to punish mashers at a distance. Oh and now limited entry cost heat but you can still hop kick it on reflex. Now you just have a sound effect to signal it. And there's no reason LE 2 shouldn't be a proper launcher and even less of a reason for it to so consistently float enemies near a wall and not splat. That's easily of the poorest interactions with a wall that I see in this game. Lars can land LE 2 almost right against the wall and get no splat as if he's supposed to follow up with Devil Jin's U1+2. And really? You can't low parry that long reaching headbutt low from Feng? That's unintuitive especially when you consider how easily special lows are parried and they're most of the answer to all the dumb pressure in the game. And some rare few redditors will justify the high power crush heat engager by saying it can be blocked. I don't think they understand the purpose of power crush. What's more annoying is that after engaging, they can use the move again to heat dash into a full combo and being a 2 combo game, chances are that if you've already taken some block damage and ate a clean heat engager in the first place, you're dead. And for whatever reason, only the strongest characters can do this.
I feel like she's going to be next on the chopping block instead of feng. They always did that to her in every single game to make sure she remains at the very middle of the tier list
Feng Wei is awesome. In a game where you have so much BS from so many characters. Feng fits perfectly. I am super happy to be able to knock Azucena, Law, Paul, Dragunov etc with Feng. I hope and I am very positive that he wont get "Significantly nerfed' Also, MainMan, please do a video on Paul, you played him you must know how broken his 50/50 is. I would like to see you do him one favor by explaining his moves. Whats more important is do him on a that Lee Chaolan stage which has balcony breaks, wall breaks, exploding walls etc.
@@KeithKillingly yes. Eddy is too difficult. Imagine pressing one button repeatedly. Too much work. Feng is just unblockables over unblockables. Specially at high level.
utbutbutbut he was SSSSSSSSS tieeeerrr buddy! didnt u hear, mainmanscrub said so!! all da tournament playas are just fooulzz for not pickin "s tier" they woulda win da tourney easily if they did. cept that all da guys who did pick feng, got kicked out early somehow.
If your character is hard to play (for execution reasons) it should be top tier. there should be an incentive to playing characters that require execution, being well rounded and doing damage should be a given. Mishimas have always been top tier like DVJ and should always be S+, easy characters should not.
"Feng is the strongest character in the game". This does not help my ego as my brother beats me 20 matches in a row with Victor. I need excuses, and you're killing me, MainMan.
I was told favoritism doesn't exist in Tekken and that I needed to practice more by a Jin main in Tekken 7. I wonder what he's up to now... -Raven Main
dude even complained about b,f1...first it is a 20 year old move. Second, like how many times do people even eat this move. If u eat it, u wouldve eaten a snakes edge... The only person i see who can land this reliably is titanthor to begin with. Even Hao gets smoked having his b,f1 blocked and knee never uses it in tourneys, its literally a non tourney viable move. "butbutbut u can now get a full launch outta it" - mainmanscrub So can u from a dorya
Waiting for Raven to get sidestep moves, 15f launcher, back turn low poke, wr2 normal hit launch, launching orbital, back turn sidestep buff, 4,1 buffed to mid high, bt f4 mid extension, and new while running 1, 2, or 4 with clone extension for mix on heat engage. Am I asking for too much? I am hard stuck kishin because I have to use 200 times more brain cells to play this character than anyone else on the ladder 😭
@@dra631 bro we got 2 extra plus frames on bt f4 hit, and full crouch df3 now has crouch dash 3 input. Also BT f3 got buffed to have extra plus frames and better counter hit confirms. Let's see if this makes Raven better than B tier... I doubt 😭
@@dra631 I still have to use 300% of my brain and my hellsweep clones are still whiffing on volcano causing me to lose the match I'm gonna fucking s-cream
Feng is one of the most well designed,coolest animated, and strong character in the entire series, now only needs an higher place in the lore :D, for sure he is very strong in game, but is pick rate is not so high... new players prefer more immediate and good characters like victor,alisa,paul,law, Azucena ecc.. Feng wei is just Hate or love
I love the contrast of training with Raven showing how broken Fang's moves are: How good his lows are, how fast his homing moves are, how he can block/ parry out of a stance, how evasive he is, and how good his back-turned options are. idk, just thought it was ironically funny... -Raven Main
TMM is coming off as really hating on Feng. There are too many characters in this game that has even cheaper moves than Feng (Drag, Devil Jin, Azucena, etc.) I think the issue is that Feng isn’t HIS main so naturally he has to be nerfed.
Ill do u 1 better. In top 96 combobreaker there was all but 1 feng. Just 1. And didnt even do well. Out of tourney asap. butbutbut SSSSSS tierrrrrr, bruh!!! mainmanscrub said so!!!
Recently lost a tourney against a Feng player this character is very well rounded and has a tool for basically most if not every situation Grab game heat engager and he kinda has better okizeme than Kazuya wonder how they’ll handle haradas main next patch😅
@@SnowflakeSSQ exactly everything kazuya does reina/jin do better and more, heat smash, easier wall carry, and you dont even need to wavu or electric with them either
Bro, shaheen's also a all round monster and you didn't see many of them. The amount of people that play feng arent that big. Some characters are just more fun. Doesn't mean the strongest characters are always gonna flood tournaments.
These are all the same points made in Tekken 7 Season 4. Pretty much frame-for-frame. I haven't been keeping track of what he's been doing as of late, though. I know that chip damage knee he does can drive me crazy.
@@blockchainballer4542 He's definitely not, I've been playing Feng for years, and all I see is running into other characters is what Feng doesn't have, so do he have all the tools? no character does. It's Cap honestly
He's strong, but not as strong as peak Dragunov, Nerfing him will do something that happened to CNT Claudio, he became way too honest and now no one uses him
@@TheMidian46what are you smoking crack? This character is broken in 8 and was high tier at worst through all of T7’s life cycle. This character has so much OP shit that if you got rid of half of it he’d still be on top
@@Angel7black yea thats why there was just 1 feng in 96 people in combobreaker and not one feng managed to advance and meanwhile shaheen wins the tournament wiping the floor with S tier Nina who was played by the best T7 player in the world, and undoubtedly one of the best T8 players in the world.
Still nowhere near as cheap as Kazuya. Im sick of you down playing Mishimas, specially Kazuya. The king of cheese. The OG 50/50 infinite mix ups. Unearned mix ups that come from a 10 frame punisher. Ridiculous coming from a Kazuya player. Yes, Feng Wei is cheap AF. So is Kazuya.
He’s the strongest because he’s Harada’s main
😂 nice one
Yo I just fought his ghost lol😂
He always be good because of that
I still think he wouldn't be able to beat me lol
Or he's Harada's main because he's the strongest?
How to know your main is safe:
1. Director mains them so you get all the buffs, no nerfs.
2. Profit.
I mean let's be honest in not even I big Tekken fan and I can admit Feng is one of the sickest fighting game Characters I wish Doa had Characters like him only Goated character we got is Hayabusa the rest either alright or mid
@@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533
I've only played DoA5 roster but why isnt anyone else cool like Hayabusa? Do they need crazy ninja moves or something?
@sobervision1049 well I don't mean gameplay wise just mean as characters in general like Brad's my guy but most of them are kinda generic but not talking gameplay I love Doa as a game but none of them really feel iconic enough Jann Lee is alright I like him better than Law Eliots okay I guess Leon is cool Zack meh Hayate ehh he's alright Genfu is cool but I think you get what I'm saying
Devil Jin is Murray's main, but he received nothing but nerfs.
@@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 I thought Jann Lee and Hayate were pretty cool.I was an Ein main and his moveset was dope
This is so sad. They should give him a launching throw to make it more fair
😂
If ya didn't know, there's an achievement for beating Harada's Ghost in T8. So if you're wondering why this character has to be OP, there ya go.
His ghost is dumb easy to beat tho
It's no arcade Akuma or anything
Wasn’t even a challenge fr so is that really an excuse?😂
Haradas ghost sucks 😂
You can clearly see how much Harada loves this character lol
Meanwhile his lore is shite
@@bigsmoke6805 Harada even gave him some Asuka interactions 💀, the Girl who can suppress Devil Genes (Originally)
Don't let LTG see this
yeah, very "low tier" of him.
Too late
@@Lbdataz1469 did he actually react to this lmao
the funniest part is LTG plays Feng terribly
just as low tier as release victor. ltg literally hs no idea what his characters can do
They missed a launching throw and a takedown with 3 way mix hope they add this later 😀
"We heard about your complaints and we decided to give Feng Wei a launching 1+2 break throw as well as a ground breaking 2 break throw and a wall splatting 1 break throw. We really hope this will make your experience playing the game greater."
why complain about marduk in a feng video tho
His damage didnt need to be “toned down”, it needs to be cut in half.
honestly. let him keep all his bullshit. Just make him do 1/4'th the damage for all of it. I would be happy with that.
His damage isn’t even high, wtf are you people on about?
His damage is only higher than average at the wall, and only after a heat dash into ff3/b1+2
@@sheeneemee B1 Ch does 44. A 10 FRAME NON-LAUNCHABLE CH. His combos do half life on average. His unseeable low launcher do half life if he has heat.
@@reservationatdorsias3215 His unseeable low launcher only accessible from backturn that is death on block and needs clean hit?
B1 was already nerfed from -10 to -12, and other characters have 10 frame ch tools that are just as strong if not better
His damage isn’t even that high outside of walls, tf are people talking about lmao
@@sheeneemee i mean. . .the bt low has to be clean hit, i'd be broken if it wasn't, but seeing all the strings that lead him to point blank bt and then the fact that he practically gets a free bt mixup in heat from the tornado kick thing, it kinda stacks. But he does do a lot of damage depending on the stage. Of course walls would do more, but the reward he gets from very basic and low risk mixups (like that safe mid launcher) inflates the amount of times he's getting a knockdown. I don't think he should be nerfed into the ground, but a couple tuning patches would be fine. It's an absolute struggle to play him, even knowing the matchup.
Is he the strongest because he is feng Wei? Or his he feng Wei because he is the strongest?
Throughout heaven and earth he alone is the broken one
You need Knees adaption to bypass Fengs defense
Lmfaoooo
@@tabkg5802lmfaoooo
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The entire point of choosing a character is to fit one own play style the best. If you have damage + frames you can't have that evasion, if you have evasion + frames + utility you cant have damage too. It is really simple to see what each character can/can't do and some of them are clearly over the board. And I'm not even considering shit like power crushes/pc heat engagers just by looking at that you can tell who's going to struggle and who's not.
When Feng is in heat he’s straight up Dairou from MK Deception lmao
Dairou at least had some bad moves
Not like it even matters when you have tombstone
Despite character moves. Tekken 8 for me is a pain because of the damage popular characters have. Even from just pokes. 3-4 hits can easily land you 50-70%. Heatsmash 45-60%. Rage art 40-60%. You guess wrong once and it's either you are on life support or fishing in the afterlife. It leaves no room for mistakes unless you got nerves of steel like most pros or top players do. Defense exists but it's like hiding behind wet cardboard against a brick.
All the free stuff on ch, sweet frames on punishes and his offense flows so well no matter what. He has an answer for for everything, there’s no locking him down, but he can lock you down.
Leroy is right, He's stronger than before
Man I been playin this man for 20 years now I get hate 😂 I love it here
i feel you bro🤝🏾
I mean characters been cooked since his debut lol
Same bro lol.
There is a difference between a character specialist vs just picking a high tier for easy wins.
Facts bro , not our fault he’s OP😂 if he was bottom tier I’d still be playing him
Yeaa… I’m glad my friend got me into tekken 7 and showed me fend as first character, never looked back
I still remember when Feng got uber-buffed in the season 4 patch of Tekken 7, and has basically stayed there and only gotten light wrist-slaps in subsequent nerfs. JDCR in one of his streams was explaining why it was a problem, when one guy asked: "He has had this since T7 launch, why is he broken now?" to which JDCR replied: " because his damage was low. He had low to below average punish and combo damage both, which effectively balanced out him all super moves"
looking at this video, it still holds true. The only way to properly balance this character is to give a damage nerf across all of his moves.
Shifting Clouds doesn't counter Elbows, Knees, Special Attacks, Charging Attacks, and most jumping attacks
2:23 I love how with DJ every single mid in his kit is balanced against the fact that he has an unseeable low launcher and feng just gets one for free
Ya.. fengs does waaay more dmg than devil jins too.. so
Has Feng Wei won ANY major tournaments? He seems to top a lot, but every time I watch footage of him in a tournament (I main Feng so I watch him a lot) he's losing. So until he begins to dominate the tournament scene by winning, he won't receive any significant nerfs. Because truth is, he's not the easiest character to pick up. He needs ALL of his tools to deal with heavy rush down characters, and that's a lot to commit to memory. As good as he is, he seems to be lacking that EXPLOSIVENESS of other characters like Reina and Victor. Which is why they usually come in higher in tournament placement.
Exactly my guy . Winning with Feng means outplaying your opponent for the entire round . He doesn’t have a panic counter hit tool that can take half life like the top tiers .
I found a bug, if you block his 3+4 in heat and get the ground stump... IF YOU CROUCH to block lows and duck highs/throws in the BT mix, his BT 1 WHICH IS A HIGH IS GUARANTEED IF YOU DUCK and followed up by shoulder. It is a bug, and they never fixed it even though I mentioned it twice...
It's a feature
@@leonard9624 being able to duck a 12i high (BT throw) but not a 12i high (BT 1) in the same situation is a feature? Why Tekken players are like this?
@zangana3052 it is kind of a feature. Whats happening is that your neutral guard isnt active at -12, and youre holding down instead of back to block. You literally dont have time to duck because of the stun animation. Definitely needs a nerf but theyll probably just add another +1 frames to his parry startup and call it a day
@@kingkino2116 I get you, but you are mistaken. BT 4 is 10i and you can duck and launch when you're -12 after blocking 3+4 in heat. I lab my stuff broski. haha.
Wait explain the bug ur talking about again confused
I feel like feng is their benchmark for what Tekken should be, or where they want it to go. Seems like most new chars are getting the hard read tools that feng has had for a minute like kenpo and ch high crush lows
So strong you didn’t see him at combo breaker top 64.
Let him cry, and yet he play king who needs nerfs
I've been a Feng player since his debut. I bought Tekken 7 in the season 2 phase when everyone said he is tricky but takes a lot of effort to damage and has poor travel with his combos. I vowed to master him for the game but as soon as his weaknesses were fixed its been annoying to play with him because I feel less rewarded for skill and a lot of players lab him.
I think his df4 mix-ups deserve a mention. df4,3 is mid, high and a natural combo. The first hit has long reach, start up frame is 15, the second hit is safe on block, and +15 on hit. So if the opponent doesn't respect it and don't try to duck the second hit, you can spam df4,3 with impunity.
It was indeed very interesting, thanks for this quick character breakdown
Question; would replacing Feng back 3 with his original back 3,3 from T7 make him more balanced? I mean personally, I just like the animation of that move more sooo......
Imagine if Feng also had a launching Orbital like Bryan, Hwoa, Leroy and some others lol
I hope he will do one on Alisa
Actually the Parry change was due to Forward Kenpo Tech > 2(Bao Dan Po) which is a Power Crush that leads to so many frames of being Invulnerable to any attack..
It still works though and is not that impacted by the nerf since the changes only affects the Startup and of course it is not reactable when used to counter. It leads to a full combo as well on normal hit.
Could anyone who explain how broken he’d be if he had laws launching throw added
7:35 You'd think they would have learned from Akuma that lows that give mixups on block is a bad idea.
5:24, for some reason, Raven lost the BT throw mixups and BT d4, but this stupid character still has the BT throw mixups and an unseeable low launcher
Exactly. Standing Haze, can't block in it like hitman and this guys stuff. Pretty ironic tbh
Hey man love these vids. Could you do a video like this on Paul? Id be interested to hear why you think he’s weaker in tekken 8
For tha feng mains that might not know about this, when u use shifting clouds (f3+4) 2, if ur holding b, it puts him into his bt options without seeing tha bt animation, so after hitting f3+4, 2, hold b during 2, then u can do all bt options instantly, its so quick, no-one sees it coming
I’m going to post a comment to remind myself to test this out when i return home
Yep I do this the throw out a bt1 you'd be surprised how many ppl get popped in the mouth and eat a shoulder even though it's -2 and a high
Could you do one for Lars please? I’ll love to hear your stance for it
He already did a video about DEN 3 and uf3+4,4
Other than that Lars isn't bullshit and is more or less the same as he has always been albeit with some minor buffs.
Feng this damn strong and LTG still finds a way to get cooked by steve players.
Crazy
How do you Kenpo to hell sweep? I just does a low kick with no sweep...
you often complain about Feng since Tekken 7, on the other hand you don't talk about the just indecent buffs of Bryan, Leroy and Zafina
Besides, Feng's combo damage has been nerfed which I find totally absurd since absolutely all the characters in the game have high combo damage.
Hope knee can mastering feng again
We saw maybe 1 Feng who drowned in pools at combo breaker?
so that makes him trash got you
@@mr.almezeini647 No. But it definitely implies that he's not as strong as everyone is crying about. Maybe he's harder to play than people give him credit for???
Could've wrapped it up in one word "TIOH!"
So. Gr8 video as usual. Theres a couple honorable mentions i feel obligated to share.
So pub stomper db222.. obvi not good. But against caz as im saying, free af. And it too.. launches. Db22, launches. In this game. On normal hit, low low. True story.
He also has insane buttons an frames on
f32 -3??
Db14 -2??? They are both his. But he has mid follow ups off both of these first moves
F34.. hit confirmable launching string.. mortal kombat move.. fr. F34 an f32 is literally what made feng my personal favy char when i first started playing
And a MUST mention imo
Feng also has a backswing blow.. that launches.... on CH nbd. Maybe u did mention the backswing blow.. im hopin not. But ne way, ya. Fengs pretty good.. d4 1+2.. low mid. -10 if they block it. Pretty good.
I was looking for this video. As a feng main stuck in Garyu I feel personally attacked.... but I'm taking notes 😂
Please tell me more.
Strings, frame traps, all the bs is welcome 🤣
In T7 (before last patch) Feng had weak combo damage. That’s was a fine weakness. Now he has standard combo damage.
Not a single feng in top 96 combo breaker, no one mains him despite being the “best” character, and you don’t see him that frequently in ranked either.
You have yet to convince me that he’s broken, and he won’t be touched because he was already nerfed once (rightfully) and has 0 representation anyway.
word. These onlinescrub tier lists are lies.
All of them are designed to downplay there own mains (speedkicks placed whoooeeerang in the lower middle of the pack, while mainmanscrub downplays kazuya) while overexaggerating other characters.
meanwhile "s tier xiaoyu" are never seen in tourneys and "s tier fengs" are only seen by character specialists who have been playing him for a decade or longer.
I agree he's not op or broken people overhype but defiantly was a feng player at combo breaker placed 25th mateo played off stream check and look at standings
He is missing in combo breaker
Joka had plain troubles
Weird uhu? So oVeRpOwErD
@@viniciuslessa3480 shaheen is a monster and you didn't see him that much. Some people just don't play certain characters. Feng still isn't played too much across the player base, regardless of his win rate.
@@barryjohnson5426 I didn't know! Nice, chars in Tekken are so complex we usually don't scratch the surface right?
@@viniciuslessa3480 kinda. Some characters like Feng are visibly insane, but there are plenty of characters that are underplayed in how good they are. Feng just needs tuning, that's all. He shouldn't have literally a perfect version of every tool in the game. I mean, his literally existance invalidate Leo as a character. He's just Leo on crack.
The other night I ran into a Tekken God Feng (I'm a Mighty Ruler and had it set to only 3 ranks higher or lower) 😂 I got dusted
I love watching a Feng pop heat and get to use these absurd moves multiple times but as Lars I get an armored tackle that does nearly no damage into a mix that may only be hard to read due to all the visual effects. Speaking of, I kinda wish Lars got that motion blur from T6. Anyways, a weak tackle and two attacks get upgraded to do something they should already do on counter hit, one of those moves being an attack that used to be a decent option out of monkey flip but was removed to make monkey flip exclusively a tracking tool to punish mashers at a distance. Oh and now limited entry cost heat but you can still hop kick it on reflex. Now you just have a sound effect to signal it. And there's no reason LE 2 shouldn't be a proper launcher and even less of a reason for it to so consistently float enemies near a wall and not splat. That's easily of the poorest interactions with a wall that I see in this game. Lars can land LE 2 almost right against the wall and get no splat as if he's supposed to follow up with Devil Jin's U1+2.
And really? You can't low parry that long reaching headbutt low from Feng? That's unintuitive especially when you consider how easily special lows are parried and they're most of the answer to all the dumb pressure in the game. And some rare few redditors will justify the high power crush heat engager by saying it can be blocked. I don't think they understand the purpose of power crush. What's more annoying is that after engaging, they can use the move again to heat dash into a full combo and being a 2 combo game, chances are that if you've already taken some block damage and ate a clean heat engager in the first place, you're dead. And for whatever reason, only the strongest characters can do this.
Didnt even mention how good his back 2 CH is especially at the wall. First 2 hits are safe and 3rd hit is confirmable!
Excelent video. Can you talk about Lili 1.04?
Isn't Lili kinda the same as t7?
But has 113, bt d2 and the heat b3 stance knd low -13 on block
@@CosmicVoid420 yes but a lot of people is saying she needs a nerf, I am not agree but I want to listen more opinions.
I feel like she's going to be next on the chopping block instead of feng. They always did that to her in every single game to make sure she remains at the very middle of the tier list
stop exposing Feng 😭😭😭 he ain't even that popular 😭😭😭
Feng Wei is awesome. In a game where you have so much BS from so many characters. Feng fits perfectly. I am super happy to be able to knock Azucena, Law, Paul, Dragunov etc with Feng. I hope and I am very positive that he wont get "Significantly nerfed'
Also, MainMan, please do a video on Paul, you played him you must know how broken his 50/50 is. I would like to see you do him one favor by explaining his moves. Whats more important is do him on a that Lee Chaolan stage which has balcony breaks, wall breaks, exploding walls etc.
Imagine defending Feng, I just hope he gets the T7 Drag Treatment.
@@ZeroKasa lol. Salty much?
@@ZeroKasa Feng is super easy and free wins and #1 that’s why there’s zero Fengs at combo breaker where ppl are trying to win money😂
@@KeithKillingly yes. Eddy is too difficult. Imagine pressing one button repeatedly. Too much work.
Feng is just unblockables over unblockables.
Specially at high level.
@@ZeroKasa Imagine being salty about a character that wins and loses less or more than other characters who are claimed to be less "OP".
Feng might have cancel back throw to give him a launching throw.
So you hate feng
I play with feng as my main
Would you like to have a match ? 😂
Still doesnt win any major tournaments
nah he needs more buffs
3,3 was high high in T7
Why you guys are so envious?
Next to nobody using Feng in Combo Breaker. Endless Victors, Jins etc
utbutbutbut he was SSSSSSSSS tieeeerrr buddy! didnt u hear, mainmanscrub said so!!
all da tournament playas are just fooulzz for not pickin "s tier" they woulda win da tourney easily if they did.
cept that all da guys who did pick feng, got kicked out early somehow.
If your character is hard to play (for execution reasons) it should be top tier. there should be an incentive to playing characters that require execution, being well rounded and doing damage should be a given.
Mishimas have always been top tier like DVJ and should always be S+, easy characters should not.
I mean Feng's been strong since his debut game he's only been average in one game and that's tekken 6
they nerfed devil jin so much he deserves to be so much stronger
@@enenra6417At launch Feng was a low tier for years was he not?
@@juhadexcelsiorhe was
@juhadexcelsior he was mid-high tier at launch T8 and he was strong at launch T7 but people started realizing how strong he was
"Feng is the strongest character in the game".
This does not help my ego as my brother beats me 20 matches in a row with Victor. I need excuses, and you're killing me, MainMan.
He's Capping. Tekken's Character Tier is design behind Bias opinions.
I was told favoritism doesn't exist in Tekken and that I needed to practice more by a Jin main in Tekken 7.
I wonder what he's up to now...
-Raven Main
All this Feng hate is completely over exaggerated - there’s far worse characters to deal with.
Yep like LArs and Victor, and um Jin, Kazuya etc.
He miss a point: if he is so good, why people don't use it more? Because despite those good moves, Feng it's not good for mashing
I thought Paul is the strongest?
Feng only in Tekken 8 but Paul in the universe bro.
Paul can kill you in 3 moves, but fengs dominates the situation 🎉
Paul is honest at least 😅
Have you seen his damage? @@dusansmizansky1413
Paul is the strongest in the universe
His fighting style is the origin of all martial arts. That’s why he is the strongest
Will you make a new character tier list?
He did not win any major tournament but nina did twice
If he’s so good where was feng in top 8 for combo breaker?
dude even complained about b,f1...first it is a 20 year old move. Second, like how many times do people even eat this move. If u eat it, u wouldve eaten a snakes edge...
The only person i see who can land this reliably is titanthor to begin with. Even Hao gets smoked having his b,f1 blocked and knee never uses it in tourneys, its literally a non tourney viable move.
"butbutbut u can now get a full launch outta it"
- mainmanscrub
So can u from a dorya
@@JaceWDtitanthor sub? Best Feng player for sure, my respect!
Imagine if they turned his DF+2,2 into a Heat Engager move
Waiting for Raven to get sidestep moves, 15f launcher, back turn low poke, wr2 normal hit launch, launching orbital, back turn sidestep buff, 4,1 buffed to mid high, bt f4 mid extension, and new while running 1, 2, or 4 with clone extension for mix on heat engage. Am I asking for too much? I am hard stuck kishin because I have to use 200 times more brain cells to play this character than anyone else on the ladder 😭
Shit, I'm waiting for Raven to use his short swords ⏳️⏱️🕰⌚️
@@dra631 😭
@@dra631 bro we got 2 extra plus frames on bt f4 hit, and full crouch df3 now has crouch dash 3 input. Also BT f3 got buffed to have extra plus frames and better counter hit confirms. Let's see if this makes Raven better than B tier... I doubt 😭
@@Ben-wn1bo These are charity buffs 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@dra631 I still have to use 300% of my brain and my hellsweep clones are still whiffing on volcano causing me to lose the match I'm gonna fucking s-cream
Feng is one of the most well designed,coolest animated, and strong character in the entire series, now only needs an higher place in the lore :D, for sure he is very strong in game, but is pick rate is not so high... new players prefer more immediate and good characters like victor,alisa,paul,law, Azucena ecc.. Feng wei is just Hate or love
I alt f4 whenever I see this guy as my opponent
I love the contrast of training with Raven showing how broken Fang's moves are:
How good his lows are, how fast his homing moves are, how he can block/ parry out of a stance, how evasive he is, and how good his back-turned options are.
idk, just thought it was ironically funny...
-Raven Main
when is 1.05 patch coming
Please make a goshdarn video about how to counter Feng wei cuz facing him is so pain in the butt rn!
TMM is coming off as really hating on Feng. There are too many characters in this game that has even cheaper moves than Feng (Drag, Devil Jin, Azucena, etc.) I think the issue is that Feng isn’t HIS main so naturally he has to be nerfed.
He has a Mental Block on the character, it's like "Event Horizon" nothing logical leaves his black hole with the character.
Meanwhile not a single Feng in top 24 combo breaker. Most picked in twt Japan and not a single Feng in top 8.
Ill do u 1 better. In top 96 combobreaker there was all but 1 feng. Just 1. And didnt even do well. Out of tourney asap.
butbutbut SSSSSS tierrrrrr, bruh!!! mainmanscrub said so!!!
@@JaceWD complainManSwe
@@JaceWDFeng needs a lot of thinking, which alisa and nina dont require
@@JaceWD Yeah he's a joke youtuber.
thank fuck I'm stuck in orange-red ranks, and I rarely see him...
The trick to escape orange ranks is to out-mash your opponent. Its all about who can land their bullshitt more effectively.
Now everyone is talking about Feng like azucena then harada Insistence for nerf.
Recently lost a tourney against a Feng player this character is very well rounded and has a tool for basically most if not every situation Grab game heat engager and he kinda has better okizeme than Kazuya wonder how they’ll handle haradas main next patch😅
Which is why I think Kazuya is so unreliable. He has his "strengths" but most characters do them better.
@@SnowflakeSSQ exactly everything kazuya does reina/jin do better and more, heat smash, easier wall carry, and you dont even need to wavu or electric with them either
Lol this guy again about another character that is op other than kazuya.
Lmao, how many fengs did you see in combo breaker?
0 lol, character is overrated trash like in t7 s5, this smells like some psyop
Bro, shaheen's also a all round monster and you didn't see many of them. The amount of people that play feng arent that big. Some characters are just more fun. Doesn't mean the strongest characters are always gonna flood tournaments.
Best character in the game yet few play him..
1:50 that looks like it has range problems? Or is that just me?
It’s a tekken 8 hit box issue
These are all the same points made in Tekken 7 Season 4. Pretty much frame-for-frame.
I haven't been keeping track of what he's been doing as of late, though. I know that chip damage knee he does can drive me crazy.
Its crazy i see all this and Xiao is still more broken imo
Damn he really has every tool
did he say plus 36 flames 😭
This isn't the game we wanted for Tekken 8 imo
Meanwhile poor Jun got NUKED from orbit so hard she fell off all the tier lists
The only player I see really using feng and doing well in tournament is Joka.
I don’t think Feng is as OP as people say. He’s always had a very complete toolkit though and the mechanics of this game work to his advantage.
This. But hey, tmm needs someone to complain
@@edgar967 I believe Dude has a mental block when it comes to Feng, the hate is real.
@@blockchainballer4542 He's definitely not, I've been playing Feng for years, and all I see is running into other characters is what Feng doesn't have, so do he have all the tools? no character does. It's Cap honestly
He's strong, but not as strong as peak Dragunov, Nerfing him will do something that happened to CNT Claudio, he became way too honest and now no one uses him
How come Laws the only one who doesn’t have a move that can spin float your opponent?
Feng has the op ability to dodge Nerfs. A rare ability not even T7 Akuma Steve devil Jin can achieve
feng was mauled in t7 s5, what are talking lol and he is mid in t8
@@TheMidian46what are you smoking crack? This character is broken in 8 and was high tier at worst through all of T7’s life cycle. This character has so much OP shit that if you got rid of half of it he’d still be on top
@@Angel7black yea thats why there was just 1 feng in 96 people in combobreaker and not one feng managed to advance and meanwhile shaheen wins the tournament wiping the floor with S tier Nina who was played by the best T7 player in the world, and undoubtedly one of the best T8 players in the world.
@@JaceWDEveryone knows the Feng matchup in high level. Maybe thats why
Still nowhere near as cheap as Kazuya. Im sick of you down playing Mishimas, specially Kazuya. The king of cheese. The OG 50/50 infinite mix ups. Unearned mix ups that come from a 10 frame punisher. Ridiculous coming from a Kazuya player.
Yes, Feng Wei is cheap AF. So is Kazuya.
He must be the only easy and strong character that I don’t hate
Seems balanced to me
if he is number one how come barely anyone playing him in comebreaker
Harada don't be shy just play true devil kazuya and everything is fine😊