He would make good money, or do you Linus pays him just enough to think that doing his own videos wouldn't be worth it. Anthony should use LTT studios and just pay a royalty.
The SLI is not working because you put the P106 in the top slot before the 1060. The way it works is, it will always use the first card detected to get the video output. In this case that is the P106, and it has no outs. Swap the cards and it will work. Similar things happens when you use dual GPU cards. If the output of the monitor is the top card's slave GPU (second one in the row) when enabling SLI it will be 3 way SLI and not Quad SLI. Swapping the video output to the master GPU makes it work as proper Quad SLI. Learned that the hard way after an hour of troubleshooting and reinstalling the drivers, while it just needed a single cable to be plugged in another out.
According to nvidia. That don't matter. But if the cards bios don't have support for it. It won't work till its added. Kinda like the BS crap they did with the keyboard support on the PC version of resident evil regulations 2. @ the end of the game the keyboard stops working, cause the code to make it work was left out for some stupid reason. But if you just use a controller it's fine.
@@sharfarazahmed1280 no, they swapped the 106 for another 1060. But the fact that it worked with 2 1060s suggest that putting the 106 in the lower slot should work in ski.
That's because he's secretly a cyborg. The large frame is just to hide his cooling system,batteries, and hardware. Also it's to help him blend in and go relatively unnoticed. He blends into the nerdy gamer/hacker scene.
This is the type of content I would love to see more of by LTT. Interesting but also practical "hacking" that is accessible by anyone with a few dollars in their pocket.
Oh everyone knows Nvidia and ADM are the same company. After all. They keep passing around the same Management Team. (I do not know personally but it sounds true and really. Reality is more fucked up than fiction. And my little lie could be very true.)
What about 2 Mining Cards in SLI ? Since they are exactly the same it might work and since they are so cheap it might actually be worth it. Would love to see you test that!
@@mrmisterman999 Try walking around town calling people 'super fat' and see how long before you get knocked the fuck out. Keyboard warriors blaming PC for shit they wouldn't do IRL anyway just because they want to anonymously throw shit around online.
Speaking of hacking. I miss the days of making graphics cards faster by drawling a line with a pencil. What was it? The Radeon 9500 that could be modded into a 9700 by enabling piplines that were disabled.
@@siniscythe It doesn't enable the extra 4 compute units, but it increases the clock speeds. This takes it to performance levels close to the 5700 XT and also confirms everyone's suspicion that it has a purely software-limited clock speed.
Hey guys, two things that could work to flash the actual bios of the P106 to the one of a 1060: 1. Locate the physical bios chip and try to flash the bios with an EEPROM flasher. 2. Desolder the bios chip of a 1060 and solder it onto the P106 board. I know this probably won't make sense by cost but it would be a cool proof of concept.
@@amberco21 You might've misunderstood my comment, I've edited now for clarification. Normal used 1060 6GB cards can be picked up for $120. So why go through the hassle of buying a P106 and a broken 1060 for probably the same money, desoldering the BIOS chip, etc. Would be nice for a proof of concept but nothing more than that.
Now that's the hacking I remember from my old days of programming, before hacking became associated with something bad. Hex editing and repairing directories on hard drives and manually undeleting files, hacking the onboard OS to make it do things it wasn't supposed to do, those were the days. Of course, gotta throw in machine code by hand to improve routines.
To be fair, sli on lower end gpu's don't really make sense when the cost of both cards and the sli bridge is about equal to a higher end model while offering similar performance in titles that scale well in sli. Titles that don't scale well in sli will remind you why sli is generally not recommended for gaming.
Multi GPU is horrible anyway. Two GPUs taking turns in rendering frames doubles the input lag at the same FPS since rendering a single frame takes twice as long.
These mining cards don't make sense as they are. They would make sense if they were geared for low power and high hashrate (specialized chip with all non essential silicon like shader units disabled or replaced with extra CUDA cores), use a PCIE 1x connector and a compact, thermally efficient form factor, and be LOTS cheaper than the gaming cards. You don't need the high PCIE bandwidth for mining (not a whole lot of memory to transfer to or from the card), and any graphics-only related silicon areas are just using power and reducing efficiency. Just the same, you don't need a whole bunch of memory for mining, and since memory speed is really not important at all for mining, that hypothetical chip could support running fast DDR4 at lower clock than GDDR5/6 or HBM, possibly in multiple channel banks, and save even more power. Put 4GB of fast DDR4 using 4 memory channels on those mining cards... The most memory intensive algos I have seen will use at max 2.8GB of VRAM, while a majority will use less than a gigabyte. Instead of repurposing their existing general purpose silicon, they should add one chip per GPU generation constructed specifically for mining that's objectively better for mining than any other available graphics card in its generation, for both hashrates and power usage, be useless for gaming (or allow them to be used as a CUDA card to supplement a regular GPU so they have at least some low resale value), and have lower markup geared towards volume sales and be *significantly* cheaper than normal graphics GPU. The price difference just isn't enough to justify buying them instead of regular cards right now. It would be a great way for nVidia to impede in AMD's lower price bracket and stick it to them. Plus this same card would probably be used a lot in smaller compute clusters for university supercomputers and such...
doesn't sli work with a master/slave configuration? so shouldn't you have the official gaming card in the master slot and the mining card in the slave slot?
It doesn't matter, as they're essentially physically identical, and the video out has to go through the on board graphics. I don't think the card could work if the video went through the 1060 (at least with these edits)
@@osoriodav2 Are you an Nvidia fanboy or something? They have no real competition, so they keep prices very high and hold off on releasing new products until absolutely necessary. If you think supply and demand is the only thing that determines prices, then you have a hell of a lot to learn about business.
😁yes. When this title say "HACKING Nvidia driver" then you acutally are also a super hacker...the difference maybe that you have any idea what you are changing. They just follow instructions they got from the internet.
Eastyy I am not sure if you’re joking or not, but it’s not really possible considering they are mostly independent sellers. However an affiliate program is probably not out of the question.
Naw. I mean, if they didn't after the last Titan video, they won't now. At any rate, this isn't going to make a noticable negative different in sales (most people are either too lazy for this or want the latest and greatest, and most people who want a midrange card without even the chance of RTX would have been AMD customers anyway). Also, remember that these cards are substantially used. They may not last very well, and they are a lot more likely to let out their magic smoke if abused. Then again, they survived the stress once, so that's harder to pin down. What it does tell us is that Nvidia, who is trying hard to charge edge pushing costs for their hardware, can definitely afford to charge less and manage to manufacture more, and they may find that they can't afford to keep charging their current prices at all. Not because of this, but just because a cool grand is a LOT to pay for a consumer GPU, even an excellent one.
The market price for these has already been inflated since the last video and there are too many perfect subsitutes out there for this kind of toil, well, unless you find it fun.
Interesting to see, that SLI scaling on GTX 1060s, which oficially don't even support SLI, is better than with dual GTX1080s, which do.... Maybe you should do a video on that :)
Mostly an issue of CPU bottlenecks not an issue of GPU inability to properly scale. Scalability is directly effected by the rest of the systems ability to keep up with your improved performance as well. The only way to ensure full scalability comparisons is to have a system that is horrifically more well endowed in all other areas than the particular element you're measuring. In this case I don't know exactly what his bench is, but just because its LTT, I'm guessing his RAM, CPU, Mobo, SSD, and everything else are pretty enthusiast level, making the 1060 scale perfectly. The only possible way I could see to ensure a good scalability with a 1080, 1080ti, 2080, 2080ti, or any Titan, is if you were running an extreme overclock on the latest CPU, delidded, lapped, and already having won the silicon lottery, with the best overclocked memory, perfectly tuned, with some insane chiller based sub-ambient cooling, and perhaps even a hard-drive to pump data in real time off the disk as fast as the memory, CPU, and GPU can eat it (IE an Intel 905p PCIe SSD or some such). It may very well be that the high end GPU's scale just fine, but the hardware to 'realistically' test that scalability will probably not be out until after those GPU's are no longer top of the line, and relatively obsolete. Since they use the same general architecture as their lower end counterparts, it might be safe to assume the scalability of the 1080 is roughly the same as the scalability of the 1060 when it has enough hardware headroom.
@voltrox sli can be quite fun to play around with, but tbh, in most games it's more trouble than it's worth, although seeing a 37k score in firestrike will always feel good :)
A very likely reason as to why SLI was disabled in software was because as you said: running 1 better GPU is more cost effective than running 2 GPUs in SLI, so NVIDIA wants to stop supporting it. However, randomly not supporting something _sometimes_ leads to backlash to people who depend on the thing you're no longer supporting. Disabling it at the driver level means if people complain, they can turn it back on. If no-one complains, they can save money transistors compute and dev time in the _next_ generation by no longer supporting SLI at all.
Downside is that you can’t play any battleye / easyanticheat games as they don’t allow test signing mode to be enabled since it allows anyone to load a custom driver that could potentially be used for cheating.
easyanticheat games yea... Which is pretty much every Ubisoft game... I must say ubisoft have done a great job with the anticheat system lol, rockstar sucks at making anticheat systems...
I don't know if windows 10 changed how this works (I haven't tried it) but in previous windows for sure, you only needed to disable checking for the install then you could turn enforcement back on.
@@LordOrwell true, it works like a switch that will automatically turned back on if you set it from the uefi mode unless if it's from powershell or cmd you have to turn it back on. i guess they're less informed about how anticheat or driversign enforcement work. Thats why keep fortnite away from your loved ones (jk but really tho)
Hey Nvidia, would love all this in some 'Experimental Features'[use at your own risk] tab in the control panel making us tinkerers happy along with your liability. Would you like to enable experimental burn your home down mode? Yes, yes I would.
Thats completely possible, it would just have a realy bad refresh rate 'cuz in 4k the ray has to scan so many times over the screen that I can't do it as many times a second
@@erlend1554 Hmm.. My last CRT could do 1280x1024 at over 100Hz, 1920x1440 at 60Hz. So I think it could do 4k, at some 40Hz or so. The real problem is the VGA cable, and drivers. Many drivers refuse to run 2560x1400p over a VGA cable, you have to force them, and it does often result in some distortions, I can imagine 4K would go even further out of speak on a VGA cable.
@@Carewolf The problem with that line of thinking is that resolution is exponential, meaning that 4k has 4 times the pixels of 1080p, even though the resolution is only twice as high in each direction. It would be possible, but at roughly 15-20Hz, assuming there are no other limitations
@@NotDrurin Quadratic, not exponential. But that is the data bandwidth. On the old analog CRT and VGA standards what counted was the lines per seconds they could make, not pixels per seconds.
So a given monitor (or videocard) would have an advertised lines per second, and you would just divide that with the vertical resolution to figure out what the max refresh rate for that resolution would be.
Soooo,... How much faster rendering do these cards provide for programs that don't use SLI, but just a bunch of Cuda cores, like DaVinci Resolve ??? Can we load up a PC with two of the P106's and a single GTX1060?
no. Because if you are using SLI, you cant output to the Onboard Graphics card. The Output has to be on the "Master" SLI card. And none of the p106's would have outputs.
@@OldLukes There are some mining GPUs that have a single DVI header. I believe they were the early mining cards and I'm not sure if they kept doing it or not, but... Wouldn't that solve the problem?
How about extracting the BIOS of the graphics cards to see the difference. Maybe it can be modified to install as 1060? Use NVFlash to read/write un/protect BIOS.
Well, I'll always advocate buying a better card over running a SiLI/crossfire configuration. However, given the mining cards headless situation, it's a why not - at least allowing these headless cards to be gained up with iGPU's or run in conjunction with the full headed counterparts in an SiLI configuration will allow them to have a longer life before becoming e-waste. It's a bit of corporate non-sense to purposely not allow these cards to be reused.
Have they done a background episode on Anthony, I would like to know where he learned what he learned, what does he actually know. Anthony's knowledge blows my mind sometimes.
Really? You're a genius, who else would have ever thought that Nvidia would want to force people to buy new GPUs...you're waaaaay too smart for the internet man.
Lmfao. I'm going to copy bob smith but with the hot silent farts that their nose hair will make some adjustment or they'll start scratching under their noses lmfao.
@@DanielRichards644 lol good point. i tend to get this urge to keep things up to date but if you dont care about new features the mining cards are still a great deal. you do you
LTT has a few series that they've named in a really stupid way and made them hard to find. I think the server upgrade vlogs are one example of that. I couldn't find the first or last video in the series, had to stumble onto it by accident.
Daaamn Anthony knows his stuff... and even present them in an easy, digestible way for us, the viewers even when most of us don't even have 10% of knowledge of this particular subject
I miss annotations. These stupid little cards are no where near as good as a big annotation when you need to add something in to a video after you've already made it
@@megamixa I always used them to correct small errors in my videos that I didn't catch in editing. Now if I make a mistake and don't catch it in editing, then I have to pull the video down and re-upload it with new annotations added in editing software. Very annoying. But yes I remember the people you are talking about. part of that problem could have been solved in the backend by increasing the size of the close button on the annotation....also people could have just not been dicks and put huge annotations in for links to things
You do realise that anti-cheat software also use signature scans before pulling the trigger on a ban. Running this kind of unsigned driver shouldn't be a problem as far as I know.
Probably not an outright false positive ban but most anti cheats won't allow you to run the game/join servers in the first place if enforced sigs are disabled. BattlEye and EAC both blocks the game from running. So PUBG, R6, ARMA, DayZ, Fortnite, Rust etc. are all out of the question.
@Michael Persico yeah but then you would have to bypass the anti-cheat, not ideal just to play legit with a cheap mining card. Will cost you money and most likely banned accounts in the long run.
When you're games code is so shit that unsigned drivers are flagged as cheats............. You need to restart from the ground up. GFX client side (ideally) should not be able to interfere server side (unless you're as bad as F76 ect~ and let to much be handled client side). Basically companys/devs they chose convenience and banning players over the hard work of good netcode~
If you are only changing the INF file. You dont need to enable test singing so you can in theory play games that dont support Test Singing as a Anti-Cheat measure. :)
at work we use a program called BeyondCompare to compare folders to each other (we use it to compare big changes on git). It's functionality is based around comparing and it handles it really well
Give Anthony his own series about super-technical stuff like this. I'd watch it even if i don't understand a thing!
Right?! If only he had more time to actually get things done properly…
He would make good money, or do you Linus pays him just enough to think that doing his own videos wouldn't be worth it. Anthony should use LTT studios and just pay a royalty.
no offense but he needs to lose some weight. He's good nonetheless
Right!!!!!!?
@@J3nLai No offence but you need to fuck off and mind your damn business.
The SLI is not working because you put the P106 in the top slot before the 1060. The way it works is, it will always use the first card detected to get the video output. In this case that is the P106, and it has no outs. Swap the cards and it will work.
Similar things happens when you use dual GPU cards. If the output of the monitor is the top card's slave GPU (second one in the row) when enabling SLI it will be 3 way SLI and not Quad SLI. Swapping the video output to the master GPU makes it work as proper Quad SLI. Learned that the hard way after an hour of troubleshooting and reinstalling the drivers, while it just needed a single cable to be plugged in another out.
that is true
I would assume he’d try this.. but either way good info!
According to nvidia. That don't matter. But if the cards bios don't have support for it. It won't work till its added.
Kinda like the BS crap they did with the keyboard support on the PC version of resident evil regulations 2. @ the end of the game the keyboard stops working, cause the code to make it work was left out for some stupid reason. But if you just use a controller it's fine.
clamo6362 huh TH-cam partially supports GIF’s cool!
@@sharfarazahmed1280 no, they swapped the 106 for another 1060. But the fact that it worked with 2 1060s suggest that putting the 106 in the lower slot should work in ski.
Can you hack their drivers to make the RTX 2080 ti cheaper?
Just call shaggy to use his 49% of his power to summon you an rtx 2080 ti
I use this channel for shitpost that only works if you have enough RGB
@@hangingjontron818 oh yeah yeah
Just get a 2060 and then download more RTX cores.
Just buy the new amd vcards
Anthony is worth every penny you pay him! I like him!
He's also a hacker that knows how to modify .inf files.
He needs to go less to McDonald's though xD. Seriously, it would be sad to see him getting in danger because of his weight or posture (no offense).
That's because he's secretly a cyborg. The large frame is just to hide his cooling system,batteries, and hardware. Also it's to help him blend in and go relatively unnoticed. He blends into the nerdy gamer/hacker scene.
Anthony rules!
give +++$$$ Anthony
This video is definitely not sponsored by NVIDIA
Why not it promotes people to buy nvidia cards
@@debravalreyes2033 cause he's removing unecessary features that nvidia wants you to use, so basically he probably pissed off nvidia
@@janethblack6563 sure bud...
This is the type of content I would love to see more of by LTT. Interesting but also practical "hacking" that is accessible by anyone with a few dollars in their pocket.
Well it is hacking because he's making the driver do something it wasn't designed to.
@@callumcausey4740 Yeah I'm aware, just trying to avoid the crowd that claims hacking is exclusively done on a terminal.
You mean: how to not get sponsored by Nvidia
CollectoR how to get free ryzen 3000s with LTT
Oh everyone knows Nvidia and ADM are the same company. After all. They keep passing around the same Management Team. (I do not know personally but it sounds true and really. Reality is more fucked up than fiction. And my little lie could be very true.)
@@Qardo ADM
@@Qardo advanced device micro ?
@@QardoADM?
Android Download Manager?
What about 2 Mining Cards in SLI ? Since they are exactly the same it might work and since they are so cheap it might actually be worth it. Would love to see you test that!
I immediatly had that thought. I was like wait why not cheap ghetto sli with two mining cards.
I second that
yeah men, they shd test it
This!
He mentioned right at the beginning that the 1060 doesn’t support SLI
Thumbs up for Anthony :)
Anthony doesn't have a brain...
He IS a brain.
Smart guy and NOT annoying.
Linus: *uses GPU meant for mining as a gaming GPU instead*
_Professionals have standards_
You're the new Yustin Y.
GPU: Excuse me wtf
Dad? Dad! Pu... Put Mom on the phone!
be polite
Evariste Galois dont ignore the fact custompods.co has airpods cheap right now😂😭👀
Anthony is a super cool dude.
What a ledge
@@cruxiaercreations8578 I know this shouldn't encourage anyone, but sitting down an programming doesn't make one more athletic.
@@akj7 lmao u killed him
@@cruxiaercreations8578 Now that's true. But do not just sarcastically say "super fat too" or for a joke..
@@mrmisterman999 Try walking around town calling people 'super fat' and see how long before you get knocked the fuck out. Keyboard warriors blaming PC for shit they wouldn't do IRL anyway just because they want to anonymously throw shit around online.
Speaking of hacking. I miss the days of making graphics cards faster by drawling a line with a pencil.
What was it? The Radeon 9500 that could be modded into a 9700 by enabling piplines that were disabled.
Or enabling with a tool what i cant remember (cores?) on an nvidia 6800le to make it a full 6800 (just with less vram)
You can flash the rx 5700 to make it pretty damn close to a stock 5700 xt.
@@Switch72nd how?
Scythe3000 you can flash xt bios to the card. Or use soft power play tables if you don’t want to risk bricking the card.
@@siniscythe It doesn't enable the extra 4 compute units, but it increases the clock speeds. This takes it to performance levels close to the 5700 XT and also confirms everyone's suspicion that it has a purely software-limited clock speed.
Guess who is not getting a sample anymore?
Nvidia doesn't care. Very few people are going to actually do this.
Hey guys, two things that could work to flash the actual bios of the P106 to the one of a 1060:
1. Locate the physical bios chip and try to flash the bios with an EEPROM flasher.
2. Desolder the bios chip of a 1060 and solder it onto the P106 board. I know this probably won't make sense by cost but it would be a cool proof of concept.
It wouldn't be too expensive if you find a broke 1060.
@@FactoryofRedstone
Yea, not expensive, but not really worth it either. Used, regular 1060s start at $120 on eBay.
💀 Broke 1060, not used. If you find a dead 1060, chances are the bios chip still works.
Another collab with Louis Rossmann incoming!
@@amberco21
You might've misunderstood my comment, I've edited now for clarification. Normal used 1060 6GB cards can be picked up for $120. So why go through the hassle of buying a P106 and a broken 1060 for probably the same money, desoldering the BIOS chip, etc.
Would be nice for a proof of concept but nothing more than that.
One like for Anthony
Yeah! Anthony, he is so cool. He is so technically sound.
Is he eat?
Wow!
Such Anthony!
But does he doesn't afraid of anything?
And fat..
day 1: hacking nvidia's drivers
day 2: *_hacking the pentagon's nvidia drivers_*
day 3: Hacking the infrastructure of America.
day 4: hacking anonymous' most secure computer
HI SAND UNDER THE TABLE AAAAAAAA NOTICE ME OR ILL CALL MAX
day 5: hacking linus' personal computer
day 6: *_hacking tech channels_*
day 7: *_hacking universities for biological information of brain_*
day 8: *_hacking brain_*
Plot twist: Sponsored by NVidia to get rid of excess cards.
Damn man, Anthony could be calm even if he was actively on fire
Mr “Anthony” is pretty smart. You need more guys like him 😄
why is Anthony''s name in quotes?
always we need more of those guys
@@iamcleaver6854 Like it's not his name or something
@@iamcleaver6854 Because tollymaster failed English
@@iamcleaver6854 That is Anthony ?
Now that's the hacking I remember from my old days of programming, before hacking became associated with something bad. Hex editing and repairing directories on hard drives and manually undeleting files, hacking the onboard OS to make it do things it wasn't supposed to do, those were the days. Of course, gotta throw in machine code by hand to improve routines.
That's just local hacking
@@kiyoponnn local hacking :DDDDDDD how dumb are u?
@@TearTox less than you
Man gettin hot here
mikejhonson now people call putting mods in steam apps common *hacking*
Hacker man: *I'M IN!*
625 Nvidia "shareholders" disliked this video.
@@fooey88 does this affect performance by any chance, like nvidia isnt gonna punish you for it by reducing fps
@@XChristmasManX no way. It's just blocking telemetry connections. Nothing more. There aren't any negative effects from this tool.
@@fooey88 i used a command in cmd in admin mode that uninstalls the telemtry program all together, will this work on top of it?
@@@XChristmasManXyes
They disable SLI in lower end cards so they wouldn't cannibalize the sales of their higher end cards.
no shit sherlock
And today we find out is not disable by nvidia. More like they try to hide it. Anyways, Mr. Huang is being too greedy.
is 1060 low end?
To be fair, sli on lower end gpu's don't really make sense when the cost of both cards and the sli bridge is about equal to a higher end model while offering similar performance in titles that scale well in sli. Titles that don't scale well in sli will remind you why sli is generally not recommended for gaming.
Multi GPU is horrible anyway. Two GPUs taking turns in rendering frames doubles the input lag at the same FPS since rendering a single frame takes twice as long.
AnthonyTechTips
It would sound a lot like this video th-cam.com/video/RXJKdh1KZ0w/w-d-xo.html but I'd still watch the hell out of it.
Miners: use graphics cards for mining
Linus: use mining cards for graphics
Way to stick it to them and get back at them for tanking the market
Chip Meyer buying these graphics cards will only support the miners as the miners are the ones selling these cards.
but Tanking the market is a GOOD thing because it means prices are super low
These mining cards don't make sense as they are.
They would make sense if they were geared for low power and high hashrate (specialized chip with all non essential silicon like shader units disabled or replaced with extra CUDA cores), use a PCIE 1x connector and a compact, thermally efficient form factor, and be LOTS cheaper than the gaming cards.
You don't need the high PCIE bandwidth for mining (not a whole lot of memory to transfer to or from the card), and any graphics-only related silicon areas are just using power and reducing efficiency. Just the same, you don't need a whole bunch of memory for mining, and since memory speed is really not important at all for mining, that hypothetical chip could support running fast DDR4 at lower clock than GDDR5/6 or HBM, possibly in multiple channel banks, and save even more power. Put 4GB of fast DDR4 using 4 memory channels on those mining cards... The most memory intensive algos I have seen will use at max 2.8GB of VRAM, while a majority will use less than a gigabyte.
Instead of repurposing their existing general purpose silicon, they should add one chip per GPU generation constructed specifically for mining that's objectively better for mining than any other available graphics card in its generation, for both hashrates and power usage, be useless for gaming (or allow them to be used as a CUDA card to supplement a regular GPU so they have at least some low resale value), and have lower markup geared towards volume sales and be *significantly* cheaper than normal graphics GPU. The price difference just isn't enough to justify buying them instead of regular cards right now. It would be a great way for nVidia to impede in AMD's lower price bracket and stick it to them. Plus this same card would probably be used a lot in smaller compute clusters for university supercomputers and such...
HMan etc needs a minimum of 4 gigs to mine though doesn’t it?
@@HMan2828 memory and speed of memory are highly dependent on the algorithm in use, several algos require either lots of memory or fast memory
Its like every time linus has a real problem he summons Anthony.
doesn't sli work with a master/slave configuration? so shouldn't you have the official gaming card in the master slot and the mining card in the slave slot?
@Benjamin Franklin Kappa LuL
@Benjamin Franklin Or when IDE was phased out, either way, no longer legal.
@Benjamin Franklin Shhhh dont tell my slaves that.
*psst* agp is better then IDE or PCI hehehe* @@cowthedestroyer
It doesn't matter, as they're essentially physically identical, and the video out has to go through the on board graphics.
I don't think the card could work if the video went through the 1060 (at least with these edits)
Next episode:Trace and solder an HDMI port on your mining card
I think I saw holes for DVI connector on that card so it might work
Yes please 👍
Oof
I’ll bet it’s the same board...Linus send me one and I’ll solder in a port ;-)
Make it happen, Linus.
Hackerman.
Nathorix 0w0
Why are u here ???
Lol
WTH are you here for?
Nathorix why you watch this
I really like that Nvidia driver --> Drive movie --> Kavinsky layered reference in the intro. Well done to who ever came up with that!
why not hack the RTX prices
demand determines why its expensive
@@VTuber_Central true
@@VTuber_Central Ehhhhhhhhhhhh not always my dude
@@osoriodav2 Are you an Nvidia fanboy or something? They have no real competition, so they keep prices very high and hold off on releasing new products until absolutely necessary. If you think supply and demand is the only thing that determines prices, then you have a hell of a lot to learn about business.
I’m here from the future and the prices have been hacked.
*_Nvidia has left the chat_*
Chat has left the Nvidia
You're the reason humanity is a failure
BOB! Youre wrong , Lisa Guerro has left the chat
*Justin Y. joined*
*TH-cam Left*
*nvidia copyrighting linus’ video and taking it down has entered the chat*
Nvidia: Linus, we want our 6x Titan V back please
Also any quaddro we've lent you. lmao.
New phone, who dis
Linus: Sorry already dropped all of them
@@nilsmehl9331 sounds about right
"Sorry i lost them in a boating accident"
> Edits .INF file
> "I'm a hacker now"
;)
😁yes. When this title say "HACKING Nvidia driver" then you acutally are also a super hacker...the difference maybe that you have any idea what you are changing. They just follow instructions they got from the internet.
@@BloodyClash I can do that, doesn't make me a hacker at all.
@@purplebubbles3324 No of course it doesn't. It just makes you someone who knows what he's doing without pretending to...
14:19 Damn that fps scales from 1 to 2 cards about as well as the old vodoo cards in sli.
No Nvidia Drivers were harmed in the making of this video.
fuck off
Watch the fucking video and you will see.
well, you know what they say
OP, Are you sure? There was blood everywhere!
I wonder if linus will ever get sponsored by Aliexpress
Eastyy I am not sure if you’re joking or not, but it’s not really possible considering they are mostly independent sellers. However an affiliate program is probably not out of the question.
@@jrbhatti1167 It's a joke because LTT are doing what ebay scammers/china wholesalers did;
flash hacking a GTX 650/670 into a 1050 ti.
@@philipottey7723 uh no. Not that.
@RARAYAYA RAA Basically restoring a GPU
15:21 Anthony - (Yes Linus. Take all my credit.)
r/watchpeopledieinside
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the story of tesla??? again???? stop b4 it's too late linus
Standard boss behaviour.
I think Nvidia just blacklisted you guys :D No more Titans on the house
TrackManiaFtw I would be more afraid of a lawsuit.
Naw. I mean, if they didn't after the last Titan video, they won't now. At any rate, this isn't going to make a noticable negative different in sales (most people are either too lazy for this or want the latest and greatest, and most people who want a midrange card without even the chance of RTX would have been AMD customers anyway). Also, remember that these cards are substantially used. They may not last very well, and they are a lot more likely to let out their magic smoke if abused. Then again, they survived the stress once, so that's harder to pin down.
What it does tell us is that Nvidia, who is trying hard to charge edge pushing costs for their hardware, can definitely afford to charge less and manage to manufacture more, and they may find that they can't afford to keep charging their current prices at all. Not because of this, but just because a cool grand is a LOT to pay for a consumer GPU, even an excellent one.
Or award him for finding this “hack” so they can find a way to fix it!
@@CharlesBosse p
The market price for these has already been inflated since the last video and there are too many perfect subsitutes out there for this kind of toil, well, unless you find it fun.
Interesting to see, that SLI scaling on GTX 1060s, which oficially don't even support SLI, is better than with dual GTX1080s, which do....
Maybe you should do a video on that :)
Mostly an issue of CPU bottlenecks not an issue of GPU inability to properly scale. Scalability is directly effected by the rest of the systems ability to keep up with your improved performance as well.
The only way to ensure full scalability comparisons is to have a system that is horrifically more well endowed in all other areas than the particular element you're measuring. In this case I don't know exactly what his bench is, but just because its LTT, I'm guessing his RAM, CPU, Mobo, SSD, and everything else are pretty enthusiast level, making the 1060 scale perfectly.
The only possible way I could see to ensure a good scalability with a 1080, 1080ti, 2080, 2080ti, or any Titan, is if you were running an extreme overclock on the latest CPU, delidded, lapped, and already having won the silicon lottery, with the best overclocked memory, perfectly tuned, with some insane chiller based sub-ambient cooling, and perhaps even a hard-drive to pump data in real time off the disk as fast as the memory, CPU, and GPU can eat it (IE an Intel 905p PCIe SSD or some such).
It may very well be that the high end GPU's scale just fine, but the hardware to 'realistically' test that scalability will probably not be out until after those GPU's are no longer top of the line, and relatively obsolete.
Since they use the same general architecture as their lower end counterparts, it might be safe to assume the scalability of the 1080 is roughly the same as the scalability of the 1060 when it has enough hardware headroom.
@voltrox Sell it and get a 1080 TI or 2080 or Radeon 7. I did that and much better frame rate and compatibility in games.
@voltrox sli can be quite fun to play around with, but tbh, in most games it's more trouble than it's worth, although seeing a 37k score in firestrike will always feel good :)
probably because at that point youre more likely being cpu limited, sli benches should do 4k with stupid amounts of AA just to make sure
@@dragoonsunite Thank you for your in - depth answer, that seems like a plausible reason :)
This is me when I reset the wi-fi router
o H
Didnt know nvidia made routers
@@decouple wow you are stupid lol
@@jpnkyari nonono, you are the stupid one
@@jpnkyari r/woooosh
A very likely reason as to why SLI was disabled in software was because as you said: running 1 better GPU is more cost effective than running 2 GPUs in SLI, so NVIDIA wants to stop supporting it. However, randomly not supporting something _sometimes_ leads to backlash to people who depend on the thing you're no longer supporting. Disabling it at the driver level means if people complain, they can turn it back on. If no-one complains, they can save money transistors compute and dev time in the _next_ generation by no longer supporting SLI at all.
Who else loves Anthony? He breaks apple products and programs and makes it work!
Mining cards will be in boom now
I still want to see how well one would work for live transcoding in a headless Plex server
@@skuzzyj Only down side is 10 series is limited to 2 transcodes at the same time.
Im planning to buy 2 of them now
I have no idea what your talking about 4S1T and I been watching this channel for 3 years 😂 so could you explain ???
Looks like they are already. eBay pricing more then double since the first video.
thumbs up for Anthony!
Anthony is such a huge addition to your crew. Always love to see him in videos!
Linus said GTX 1030 instead of GT 1030. I think someone has killed Linus and taken his place.
By Linus standard I have a gtx 210 laying around lmao
thought exactly the same thing
Port to Linux
need to get that 4way 1030 sli going.. I bet going from 3 to 4 will gain way over 7%.. maybe hit 11% gain over 3way
11:55
He makes mistakes like this all the time
Nvidia CEO entered the chat.
he can fcuk off
NVIDIA CEO left the chat.
It just works!!!
NO MORE TITAN FOR U
@@RyTrapp0 thanks for post, i didn't know
107 nvidia's employees disliked it
Hyper Pug 231 now 😂
@@Gwubby 252 now
One of them is jensen
Nvidia is calling all his employees to dislike this video.
Anthony ¨like a boss¨ moment, you are awesome :)
Downside is that you can’t play any battleye / easyanticheat games as they don’t allow test signing mode to be enabled since it allows anyone to load a custom driver that could potentially be used for cheating.
I was planing on doing this until I read your comment. Thanks for saving me some money.
easyanticheat games yea... Which is pretty much every Ubisoft game... I must say ubisoft have done a great job with the anticheat system lol, rockstar sucks at making anticheat systems...
I don't know if windows 10 changed how this works (I haven't tried it) but in previous windows for sure, you only needed to disable checking for the install then you could turn enforcement back on.
@@LordOrwell true, it works like a switch that will automatically turned back on if you set it from the uefi mode unless if it's from powershell or cmd you have to turn it back on. i guess they're less informed about how anticheat or driversign enforcement work. Thats why keep fortnite away from your loved ones (jk but really tho)
aw, well thats a shame.
Hey Nvidia, would love all this in some 'Experimental Features'[use at your own risk] tab in the control panel making us tinkerers happy along with your liability.
Would you like to enable experimental burn your home down mode? Yes, yes I would.
Don’t think Nvidia will send you more GPUs after this...
Hahahaha xD
@@bellum_7997 hello smart man
@@logk me smart ? XD man im just above average no more im a nerd xD
"I'm giving you a night call to tell you how I feel"
Isn't that from Kavinsky's "Nightcall" song from "Driver"
I like Anthony so much,he knows stuffs
Anthony is the most chilled guy i've ever seen
Anthony's voice is sugar chocolate in my ears.
Linus: GTX 1030
LowSpecGamer: *TRIGGERED*
Yeah it’s called a gt 1030
Next: Gaming 4K on CRT monitor
Thats completely possible, it would just have a realy bad refresh rate 'cuz in 4k the ray has to scan so many times over the screen that I can't do it as many times a second
@@erlend1554 Hmm.. My last CRT could do 1280x1024 at over 100Hz, 1920x1440 at 60Hz. So I think it could do 4k, at some 40Hz or so. The real problem is the VGA cable, and drivers. Many drivers refuse to run 2560x1400p over a VGA cable, you have to force them, and it does often result in some distortions, I can imagine 4K would go even further out of speak on a VGA cable.
@@Carewolf The problem with that line of thinking is that resolution is exponential, meaning that 4k has 4 times the pixels of 1080p, even though the resolution is only twice as high in each direction. It would be possible, but at roughly 15-20Hz, assuming there are no other limitations
@@NotDrurin Quadratic, not exponential. But that is the data bandwidth. On the old analog CRT and VGA standards what counted was the lines per seconds they could make, not pixels per seconds.
So a given monitor (or videocard) would have an advertised lines per second, and you would just divide that with the vertical resolution to figure out what the max refresh rate for that resolution would be.
No idea what anything in this video means but still interesting to watch
NEIN! GTX 1060 DOESN"T SUPPORT SL- oh...
Anthony is such a pleasure to watch he is so calm and talks so well. He knows so much
Soooo,... How much faster rendering do these cards provide for programs that don't use SLI, but just a bunch of Cuda cores, like DaVinci Resolve ??? Can we load up a PC with two of the P106's and a single GTX1060?
i would love to know this answer
Upvote this
Gave it a like, for Anthony! FOR ANTHONY!!!! Tony! Tony! Tony!
*Nvidia wants to know your location*
@Galaxy TS2 😂
F nVidia
also nvidia wamt my money cuz of gtx 1080 ;(...... using rx580 crapped me non ultra 1080p gaming
Nvidia can fuck off.
*Clicks Accept*
*FBI OPEN UP*
Anthony just sits in the back and gives the camera the, “I know my shit,” look.
Yo @Linus Tech Tips, what about that P106 in an external enclosure for extra laptop performance?
How many cards does the BMD box hold again?,.. since the screen is already on the laptop...
Linus Intro: This...!
Doug Demuro Intro: This....!
Underrated.
Doug is amazing too lmao
This... Is a P106 mining card. And today I'm going to show you some of its quirks and features.
Haha i immediately tought of Doug when he said "this".
... of its WEIRD quirks and features :D... love THIS guy
Sooooo, what's with that RED camera?
Big thanks to Anthony and the others on the forum!
Thanks to them (and this video) I got my tensorflow-Machine-learning setup with four p106's going!
.....so wait, would two of the chinese p106 cards be successfully run in SLI if the only problem was that they have different VBIOS?
no. Because if you are using SLI, you cant output to the Onboard Graphics card. The Output has to be on the "Master" SLI card.
And none of the p106's would have outputs.
@@OldLukes Ok, then we only have to wait for LTT to mod an video output to a p106 card
not due to difference,
but due to incompatiblibleat...fck one of them
@@OldLukes There are some mining GPUs that have a single DVI header. I believe they were the early mining cards and I'm not sure if they kept doing it or not, but... Wouldn't that solve the problem?
13:18 he's trying to skip the loading screens lol
Lol, now that you mention it, that flailing technique does look familiar :)
Don't we all do that at some point xD... I for one know I'm always buttonsmashing when I see a loadingscreen xD xD xD xD xD xD xD xD
Linus is so cool he should start his own youtube channel
Oh yeah yeah!!!
True
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Why in the F*** are there so many people with this profile pic?!??!
How about extracting the BIOS of the graphics cards to see the difference. Maybe it can be modified to install as 1060?
Use NVFlash to read/write un/protect BIOS.
Well, I'll always advocate buying a better card over running a SiLI/crossfire configuration. However, given the mining cards headless situation, it's a why not - at least allowing these headless cards to be gained up with iGPU's or run in conjunction with the full headed counterparts in an SiLI configuration will allow them to have a longer life before becoming e-waste. It's a bit of corporate non-sense to purposely not allow these cards to be reused.
Linus Media Group: *is owned by NVidia*
Linus Media Group: HACKING NVIDIAS DRIVERS!!!!
This is how mafia works
Excuse me what Nvidia owns ltt? Wtf
@@arnavfernandes8165 th-cam.com/video/CMTUZtF27kA/w-d-xo.html
LMG isn't owned by Nvidia. It was an April fool's joke.
Well that got me good
Linus tech tips is the only good channel on trending
What? We, Team TH-cam will make sure it's not the case anymore
*WHAT? You don't want to watch Marshmello holding the first ever Fortnite concert live at Pleasant Park?* (LOL what even _is_ that?)
Have they done a background episode on Anthony, I would like to know where he learned what he learned, what does he actually know. Anthony's knowledge blows my mind sometimes.
Nvidia Hates Him & Gamers Love Him
Why would Nvidia hate him? This may actually increase sales of gtx 1060s lol
That compare tool is just what I need sometimes! Thanks Anthony!
The reason they keep it locked might be that they want people with p106’s to buy a higher end card instead of buying a second p106 when upgrading.
Eduard van Raalte sorry bout that chief
Eduard van Raalte that’s it make your own fuckin comment
That escalated quickly
Really? You're a genius, who else would have ever thought that Nvidia would want to force people to buy new GPUs...you're waaaaay too smart for the internet man.
you would be better off buying a higher end card, SLI doesn't scale well in every game.
Anthony was such a great addition to the channel. Actually putting up tech rich content I care about
I farted in a Apple store and had to leave because they didn't have Windows.
touche
Lmfao. I'm going to copy bob smith but with the hot silent farts that their nose hair will make some adjustment or they'll start scratching under their noses lmfao.
I made an unoriginal joke and had to leave because it was cringy asf
Naaaawwwwwww. Kleenex?
watching a 16:9 screen capture in a 21:9 video on a 16:9 monitor is just great
Laughs in 21:9
this video is 18:9
watch as Nvidia patches this
can't patch old driver versions that aren't in their control anymore
@@DanielRichards644 yes but you wont get access to the latest nvidia features from the updates.
@@jackieliu117 and who's to say you care about the latest features? or can even use them.
@@DanielRichards644 lol good point. i tend to get this urge to keep things up to date but if you dont care about new features the mining cards are still a great deal. you do you
@@jackieliu117 who aayd u can't? Just replace the launcher and its dependencies
I find the contrast between hyper-active Linus & Anthony, it's very amusing
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Is it just me or did he really change the video title from something like "Video Card Mining pt.2" to "Hacking Nvidia's Drivers!"...
Probably because the video got on trending
LTT has a few series that they've named in a really stupid way and made them hard to find. I think the server upgrade vlogs are one example of that. I couldn't find the first or last video in the series, had to stumble onto it by accident.
@@jeremylindemann5117 Yeah, they use a lot of stupid fucking clickbait titles that make it really difficult to search for anything.
Next up on tonight's news: Canadian madlad hacks Intel Integrated Graphics for EXTREME PERFORMANCE GAINS
Daaamn Anthony knows his stuff... and even present them in an easy, digestible way for us, the viewers even when most of us don't even have 10% of knowledge of this particular subject
I don't think linus knows yet that youtube removed annotation boxes last year
Noble T he's pointing to the little i in the corner
I miss annotations. These stupid little cards are no where near as good as a big annotation when you need to add something in to a video after you've already made it
@@megamixa I always used them to correct small errors in my videos that I didn't catch in editing. Now if I make a mistake and don't catch it in editing, then I have to pull the video down and re-upload it with new annotations added in editing software. Very annoying.
But yes I remember the people you are talking about. part of that problem could have been solved in the backend by increasing the size of the close button on the annotation....also people could have just not been dicks and put huge annotations in for links to things
Thats the kind of content i wanna see! :)
Who's this pretentious fella and how do I become his student?
I know, right?
He's almost as smart as a guy name Killagain
Anthony is well-spoken and polite, sounds like an IT support agent over the phone who usually google answers as a daily routine ^^
*_linus turns into hackerman_*
Epic hackerman moments
Having unsigned drivers running a game is a good way to get false flagged ban as anti cheats could think it's a hack running.
You do realise that anti-cheat software also use signature scans before pulling the trigger on a ban. Running this kind of unsigned driver shouldn't be a problem as far as I know.
that is true, I totally forgot that there are actually cheats that hide as drivers.
Probably not an outright false positive ban but most anti cheats won't allow you to run the game/join servers in the first place if enforced sigs are disabled. BattlEye and EAC both blocks the game from running. So PUBG, R6, ARMA, DayZ, Fortnite, Rust etc. are all out of the question.
@Michael Persico yeah but then you would have to bypass the anti-cheat, not ideal just to play legit with a cheap mining card. Will cost you money and most likely banned accounts in the long run.
When you're games code is so shit that unsigned drivers are flagged as cheats.............
You need to restart from the ground up. GFX client side (ideally) should not be able to interfere server side (unless you're as bad as F76 ect~ and let to much be handled client side).
Basically companys/devs they chose convenience and banning players over the hard work of good netcode~
If you are only changing the INF file. You dont need to enable test singing so you can in theory play games that dont support Test Singing as a Anti-Cheat measure. :)
Maybe signin means something more and digs deeper. Like checksum at least
Otherwise it's usless
at work we use a program called BeyondCompare to compare folders to each other (we use it to compare big changes on git). It's functionality is based around comparing and it handles it really well
"You know what else you can do down below?"
Why do I get the impression that's also the phrase that made Linus a dad?