The Last Conversation Between Packie and Niko | GTA IV

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  • A conversation that Patrick McReary has with Niko during a friend’s activity after picking him up.
    After the conversation, Packie will still react to Niko’s actions, but he won’t talk about his or Niko's personal life, making this the last conversation between them before the former departs for Los Santos in 2008.
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ความคิดเห็น • 155

  • @Arische234
    @Arische234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    I never realized they stopped talking after hanging out too many times until recently

    • @kipdaedricartifact
      @kipdaedricartifact ปีที่แล้ว +174

      can’t have endless dialogue. i found it sad when i realised Niko and Roman ran out of conversations. their last conversation was amazing though.

    • @nlrenzo9432
      @nlrenzo9432 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@kipdaedricartifactwhat did they say?

    • @EldarioS_01
      @EldarioS_01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      ​@@nlrenzo9432There was a sincere conversation there. Niko told Roman that he wants to be as honest and kind as him. And Roman told Niko that he wants to be as brave and strong as Niko

  • @BaronVonPurp
    @BaronVonPurp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +839

    Sad to think that this was the last convo they had before loosing touch when Packie left for LS

    • @SeriousDragonify
      @SeriousDragonify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      What is sadder is their background.
      Explains a lot why they're f'ed up.
      Also it is disrespectful how Rockstar aknowledged Niko to be "probably dead".

    • @SeriousDragonify
      @SeriousDragonify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@codyanderson2658 He never died.

    • @stevenvgs
      @stevenvgs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@SeriousDragonify You do have the option to kill him when you see him in the random encounter, but that is not cannon in the gta lore.

    • @SwitchedDreams
      @SwitchedDreams ปีที่แล้ว +45

      They said "He went quiet", not dead. Different things

    • @smoke7139
      @smoke7139 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SwitchedDreams Lester says that. Packie says he is probably dead too.

  • @calangoraivoso9921
    @calangoraivoso9921 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    This has to be the most messed up conservation in the game, but the Katie ones are also sad asf, and she suspects her father (which was the only one he treated decently) abuse her brothers, and in one of the last conversations, she comes into realization and burst into tears. This game is on another level of darkness, seriously.

    • @thestrong2401
      @thestrong2401 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      She just thinks he had done bad things to her brothers such as beating them and stuff like that but I don't think she has any idea of any of this since in another conversation she says she thinks her dad was a good person despite his drinking problem...

    • @KxshouTOtW
      @KxshouTOtW 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Facts that game always seemed creepy at night with fog and the sadness of the ingame city. Even though tbogt is completely opposite of that

  • @jackielanewireless
    @jackielanewireless 2 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    Damn I miss this game

    • @P0150Ngmod
      @P0150Ngmod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      me too

    • @uselesscontentclub
      @uselesscontentclub ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I completed my first playthrough two days before., now think about how messed up that is playing a game for the first time a decade after it was released
      And you know what, it still is breathtaking.....

    • @heavenandhello6629
      @heavenandhello6629 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Then what’s stopping you from playing it?

    • @KingOfComedyXD
      @KingOfComedyXD ปีที่แล้ว +5

      play it then

    • @KillTheLux
      @KillTheLux ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@heavenandhello6629 Rockstar not porting into newer gen consoles thats what

  • @GTAniko2008
    @GTAniko2008 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    Fun fact: in gta tbogt, in the final credits , we can see packie going to the francis aerport with a bag (i think his guns and money) a very cool detail

    • @timtim8644
      @timtim8644 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That's why we see him in Los Santos in V
      He took off from L.C to L.S

    • @phillyleotardo4343
      @phillyleotardo4343 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      casually takes his ak to the airport

    • @GTAniko2008
      @GTAniko2008 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timtim8644 yeap

    • @CyranofromBergerac
      @CyranofromBergerac ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@phillyleotardo4343In a city where guns are banned for anyone not in the gun club and even then is heavily restricted.

  • @twosense7723
    @twosense7723 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    We need a Packie and Niko reunion in a future GTA game.

    • @quarts5519
      @quarts5519 ปีที่แล้ว

      niko is probably dead

    • @garywinthorp4387
      @garywinthorp4387 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love that but I believe that Niko is now dead during the events of GTA 5. But I'd very much like to be wrong ab that one

    • @twosense7723
      @twosense7723 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@garywinthorp4387 I mean it was never confirmed so it’s always possible that he’s still alive in Liberty City.

    • @garywinthorp4387
      @garywinthorp4387 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twosense7723 ah gotcha. Well if rockstar ever decides to give us what we want I'd be hyped asf for something of that nature

    • @twosense7723
      @twosense7723 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@garywinthorp4387 Same. Seeing Niko come back and team up with some new characters would be great

  • @twentytwoedits2442
    @twentytwoedits2442 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    i love how conversations between characters in any gta game reveal so much background and lore basically

  • @killfaced911
    @killfaced911 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Man this is exactly why I enjoyed hanging out with friends in this game.
    It deals with such serious subject matter in a very grounded and realistic way that I don't think any other GTA game will ever balance it's subject matter this well ever again, or be as personal a story with good character development and such a well written narrative all throughout as GTA IV's imo.
    Also I gotta say, I sorta wish the ending where Roman dies was cannon cause it just seems like there's so much weight in that event as opposed to Kate who he IS attached to sure, but her death definitely has a bigger effect on Packie cause she's family.
    Hence why Roman's death would probably break Niko so much more than Kate's death.
    This is also what I'd use as an excuse to rampage after the games narrative was thru. Lol

    • @thelargesmoke4197
      @thelargesmoke4197 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well then why is Jimmy checking what is basically a dead man's facebook page then ?

    • @killfaced911
      @killfaced911 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thelargesmoke4197 It's just an easter egg. I don't get why anyone would take this at face value as definitive proof that he's either alive or dead. But if you really wanna make sense of it, why would he even be looking at some random persons page that he doesn't know anyway?
      If you wanna make sense of it, you could say that both Roman and Niko became infamous after the events of IV. Either ending could've made them BOTH infamous. Hell, if Roman died, his face would probably be plastered on the news, versus if he lived and just got to live a life in obscurity.

    • @asm7406
      @asm7406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      GTA V made Kate's death canon

  • @maxwellmarshall5881
    @maxwellmarshall5881 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This makes me sad after all these years

  • @inkpaladin
    @inkpaladin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Wasn't the actual last convo between Packie and Niko at the ending where Kate dies (assuming that ending is canon)? Packie mourns Kate and tells Niko he has to stay with his Ma (hence why he couldn't help Niko take vengeance upon Jimmy Pegorino, the one responsible).

    • @Jak2bossbf3
      @Jak2bossbf3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      That ending is cannon and yeah I think that’s their last convo

    • @Fireglo
      @Fireglo ปีที่แล้ว +8

      both endings are canon. Anything that would suggest the outcome of the ending is not mentioned in GTA V

    • @erchipamogli3559
      @erchipamogli3559 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@Fireglo Incorrect

    • @Fireglo
      @Fireglo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erchipamogli3559 nope.

    • @erchipamogli3559
      @erchipamogli3559 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fireglo You talk like you know too much but In reality youre looking like a dumbass

  • @uselesscontentclub
    @uselesscontentclub ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Packie calls niko after kate died right?
    This comes after that?
    I thought that was the last conversation.

    • @ScepticaladLad
      @ScepticaladLad  ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Considering most players wouldn’t bother doing so many activities with Packie before completing the game, to where the game features no more dialogues between them sounded more logical to title this video the way it is.

    • @uselesscontentclub
      @uselesscontentclub ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ScepticaladLad Sure you're right...
      Just wanted to shed light on the canonical event sequence.

  • @BigDaddyPancakes
    @BigDaddyPancakes ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I like to think since Niko has a lifeinvader page after gtaV packie got on lifeinvader and reconnectednwith niko

  • @atlasprime6193
    @atlasprime6193 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    After everything they went through together, his only mentioned of Niko was, “Probably dead”, even though I’m pretty sure he knew Niko left the life of crime after the ending.

  • @piggsy20
    @piggsy20 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    most depressing thing in this dark game

  • @bro4life693
    @bro4life693 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Damn man…this is heavy

  • @ALKHALIFADESIGNS
    @ALKHALIFADESIGNS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    (Packie and Niko), (Caesar and CJ) gives the same vibe

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I always thought "Niko going quiet" means he either kept being a hired gun and eventually died or he changed and stopped being a criminal, which means disappearing from the criminal underworld but moving somewhere else to live a simple life and that's actually a decent explanation.
    its left up to you to decide if he'd leave that life and change and survive and improve
    or he's just too fucked up, doesn't care, doesn't improve and eventually dies, 99% of people in that life either die or go to prison

    • @FuryNotFurry
      @FuryNotFurry ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or, he did what every old person from Liberty City does and went south to Vice City to retire

    • @CyranofromBergerac
      @CyranofromBergerac ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@FuryNotFurryHe could have left the states, returned to his home country with the money he made to live a life under better conditions.

    • @mcdood1858
      @mcdood1858 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Canonically though Niko had a really good sense of morality and only resorted to committing crimes to help Roman & himself out of poverty and away from the mafia, that and find the truth behind the massacre of his childhood friends. He definitely would have stopped doing crimes as soon as he could go legit, in his mind though he was still loyal to his friends / betrayed squad and still caught up in it / PTSD, prolly the only reason he had no worries killing and breaking the law. You can see he's had somewhat of a good sense of morality though because almost every stranger mission is helping someone out in need.

    • @piggsy20
      @piggsy20 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      moved back to live near mom I hope

    • @OfficialGroundZxro
      @OfficialGroundZxro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Going quiet means he went off the grid.

  • @khaledrehan822
    @khaledrehan822 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    GTA 4 was real asf

    • @benweaver9151
      @benweaver9151 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah. GTA 5 has its moments but it’s not the same

  • @MrBossFML
    @MrBossFML หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I know it's sad, but the way packies VA delivers the "why did i tell you that" at 0:38 made me laugh

  • @thestrong2401
    @thestrong2401 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Damn... Never got to this conversation I think my last conversation with Packie was when Niko reveals to him he had a brother that died during the war and who was also a good friend of Roman and that they never talk about it because they both don't want to think about the fact that he died so young. But this, is even more disturbing to find out... Especially considering that Kate actually believed her and Packie's father to be a good person despite his drinking problems. Crazy how wrong she was considering what he had really done to Packie and Gerald. Man this game was so deep. I'd say often even deeper than both the two red dead redemptions. And to think gta 5 is so silly instead by comparison

  • @santiagorojaspiaggio
    @santiagorojaspiaggio ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had completed GTA IV 100% and i didn't know this.

  • @D-Day867
    @D-Day867 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After gta 4, everyone started leaving LC and move to LS.😢

  • @anonimous332
    @anonimous332 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I don't know why but I think that the next conversation between Niko and Packie will be in a room at the FIB and about not good things

    • @sartbimpson4519
      @sartbimpson4519 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes sense. After that Packie lost contact to Niko and moved to LS

  • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
    @SYDAirlineEnthusiast 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Legend has it niko spent time in Los santos as well sometime between the events of gta 4 and gta v as we can see his brown jacket in a bar by blaine country

    • @EldarioS_01
      @EldarioS_01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      CJ lives in other Universe

  • @kipdaedricartifact
    @kipdaedricartifact ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can you please upload the last conversation between Niko and Roman? It’s an amazing conversation but I can’t find it on TH-cam.

  • @mr.t967
    @mr.t967 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe Claud was his dad...

    • @nickelakon5369
      @nickelakon5369 ปีที่แล้ว

      Claude isn't old enough to be his dad. Gta 4 takes place in '06. GTA 3 takes place in like 2001, if packie's dad molested them and killed himself when they were young Claude would be dead then since packie is like 28ish and would have been 22 during the events of gta 3.
      It's also mentioned that Packie's dad was actually from Ireland, Claude is not.
      Packie's dad is also stated to have been alive in the 50s. Claude wouldn't have been born until the 60s cause he's in his early 20s or late teens in gta San andreas which takes place in 1992, meaning at earliest he was born in 1968 (this would make him around 35 for gta 3).

    • @captaindowntown7851
      @captaindowntown7851 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nickelakon5369 GTA IV doesn't take place in 2006, it takes place around 2007-08. Also I think Claude was born around 1970 - 73.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think Claude is the type of guy to molest people. Plus, Patrick said his dad always talked. Claude never talks lol.

  • @aircraft2
    @aircraft2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not too long after that, Packie would leave for Los Santos.

  • @DerbyshireBloke
    @DerbyshireBloke ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've heard that In a conversation with niko packie mentions moving to los santos after the Kate death ending but I can't find it anywhere can anyone tell me if this is real?

  • @SeriousDragonify
    @SeriousDragonify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    0:25 Why is there cut dialogue?

    • @ScepticaladLad
      @ScepticaladLad  2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I conjoin there two separate clips. The game captured the second clip only after Niko had done talking, while it only captured the first clip by the half-cut word “sai-“.

    • @saintfreezy6914
      @saintfreezy6914 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man apologizing ab his family cause he killed them smh niko is a snake just like the man hes hunting

  • @calangoraivoso9921
    @calangoraivoso9921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was this after revenge ending? If so, this was even more shocking

  • @Mpw846
    @Mpw846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I cant look at the McRearys the same ever again 😭😭

  • @JakTheLad
    @JakTheLad ปีที่แล้ว

    i love thsi game

  • @adambuckley3725
    @adambuckley3725 ปีที่แล้ว

    😄

  • @Fuxk_cia_chrspin
    @Fuxk_cia_chrspin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Kinda wish we had dlc stories in gta 5 so we could find out wth packie was doing before 2013

  • @deathrager2404
    @deathrager2404 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i never even knew about them being molested by their father.

  • @jesusmoreno1448
    @jesusmoreno1448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I berly finished the campaign i'm doing different activities with the remaining Friends of Niko to get a achievement but i Would like to see this convo