@@feelthejoy I'd rather watch a 16 minute video than go down a potentially multi-hour long rabbit hole, just to achieve the same information in the end.
@@noelhoffman2184 Not sure why, but this really touched my soul. I bet he was smiling when he (or someone else) wrote it (if it indeed has the meaning I think it’s intended to have). Anyway
I just want to share.. My interest in human history brought me to this video, a year ago. This video then piqued my interest in learning more history about Jesus. Ultimately, leading to reading the Gospels, the Bible and developing a relationship with Jesus Christ. Thank you. ❤️✝️👑
The fact that the earliest depiction of the Crucifixion of Jesus is anti-Christian shows just how unpopular the Christians were among the general population. It also shows that even pagan children knew quite a lot of the details of the Christian faith
One really has to remember that before Christianity went mainstreamnin the Empire, it sounded quite ridiculous to the Romans. And Christians were considered misguided fanatics.
as someone who is orthodox, the interpretation of the first icon (the Pantocrator) that’s generally accepted is that the “angry” side represents God the Righteous Judge, while the “kind” side is God the Lover of Mankind with the gospel being where the message of both comes from
@@kumarg3598 How is any person with different personalities still considered one person? Don't you sometimes feel anger and other times happiness? Or sadness? Are you a different person in each case?
I live in Australia. There is a church that I used to walk past every day that is, I presume, run by Korean Christians. Every year near Christmas they would put up a painting of the nativity outside the church. A big ol' picture with a barn, baby Jesus, Mary, Joseph, three wise men, etc etc. In their depiction Jesus, Mary and Joseph were all clearly Korean, wearing old-fashioned Korean clothes. The three wise men looked like Confucian scholars.
@@roughysk9851people looked different thousands of years ago as well, all the wars, prisoners moved around, the migration patterns of tribes, and things are not quite as you see them with your modern bias, there're many examples of this from north Africa, to Egypt, to think that the gals were the only "European" looking ones is a mistake, and to think everyone looked like Arabic is also wrong, there's clearly pictures of light skinned ppl from thousands of years ago way before Jesus was born, from the sea ppls to caucuses. The middle Mediterranean had mixtures of all types because of ships ports scattered all over the sea, for instance Carthage, and look at the Berbers, there was so much migration going on back then that what we think of as a jew today isn't exactly what they look like now
tbf depicting other races is hard, I remember in Catholic school the Nuns had brought portraits of Mary from various countries and it was so interesting to see how she varied, Samoa made her look Samoan, Japan made her look Japanese etc. It's not necessarily malicious.
i would love if that was the case but over the course of history the church became increasingly white supremacist and viewed any depiction of jesus outside of white European views as either lessor or simply wrong and countries adopting Christianity as lesser people who needed to be saved from their "savagery"
If depicting other races were as "hard" as you contend, then artists would never be able to draw anyone except people who look like themselves. Further, artists rarely draw Satan as looking like themselves; instead, they tend to draw the devil as looking like "the other." Your comment is well intended but isn't adding up.
@@emilerose1424 Never said it was impossible but it is harder if you've never done it. It was literally an exercise in art classes to draw someone with opposite features than your own for that reason. Same reason anime artists struggle at depicting black or south asian features or why medieval artists struggled at accurately depicting race and age of subjects they weren't familiar. Art styles also may be based off of certain races, look at eastern orthodox artwork, everybody had the same face shape and same length noses etc. because those were features artists were used to drawing. You're taking this very personally whereas it's simply just a natural thing people subconciously do
@@emilerose1424It was especially hard in ye olden times when you didn't travel much or at all. Literally everyone you knew looked alike. And even if the artist did travel it would cause an uncanny sensation on people looking at it for the same reasons mentioned, so it would be best to draw Him looking "normal".
how come latin has changed so much and turned into italian, spanish, french, etc, while greek didnt? my guess is that , apart from roman aristocrats, roman citizens never spoke traditional latin, but always a regional different latin dialect.
Given the heavy persecution the Christians faced during the first two centuries, it's not difficult to imagine that religious depictions from this era would have been destroyed or defaced to a massive extent (if made at all, since the stigma and fear associated with being a follower of Christ would have prevented it).
Gfgf Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
Agreeable. Also, the Church went through a period of persecution from those who believed in the heresy called “iconoclasm”. MANY icons (images) were destroyed under this heresy that swept through the Christian East and West.
I'm in my 80s. My father was a minister. Even I at a young age knew that the 1940s picture couldn't be right. There where many jews in our community, and non of them looked anything like that picture. Yes I have wondered what Jesus may look like. But I know, no matter what he may look like physically, my knees will bow before him.
The ancient Jews would not look like modern Jews, because genetically most of them are actually closer to edomites. Historian Josephus wrote that there was a heavy influx of edomites into Judaism around the time of Christ (King Herod being one). However to my knowledge, most non-Edomite Jews converted to Christianity fairly quickly
I'm not really surprised that Jesus and other religious figures change in apearance depending in which region of the world they are depicted. People always tried to make Religious figures look like someone from the same region, so they are more relateable to resident people.
The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black, While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair. Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw, And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own. Xenophanes
@@adrianlasin574 But if you look to Hollywood for a depiction of Jesus, he looks like his beard is all nicely trimmed and manicured as if he just stepped out of a salon.
Yes. What REALLY bothers me is that so many people think Jesus was white and are against portraying Jesus as anything other than white, specifically when he's being worshipped by non white people. A Black church sould have a Black Jesus, an Indigenous church an Indigenous Jesus, etc.
*Message for Christians from God:* *They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the Messiah(Jesus), the son of Mary while the Messiah(Jesus) has said,* *O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.* *Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.* Quran Al-Ma'idah (5:72)
@@Iamthewarner557 The Quran comes 600 years after Jesus and His followers from an Arab man, not a Jew, and tries to tell us the identity of Jesus. Jesus is of course, divine, but he's not Allah. He's the true God of the Bible, who can do one thing that Allah cannot do. Believe on the Son of God and be saved before it's too late. Allah cannot save, he's a creature.
@@tempstep4058 "GOD'S MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS:" *And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”* He will answer, *“Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?* *If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.* *You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.* *Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.* I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: *“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.* *If You punish them, they belong to You after all. But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.* *Allah will declare, “This is the Day when ˹only˺ the faithful will benefit from their faithfulness.* *Theirs are Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. That is the ultimate triumph.* *To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and everything within. And He is Most Capable of everything.* Quran Al-Ma'idah Chep 5 Verse (116-120) 👉This Conversation between Jesus(PBUH) with Allah Almighty will take place on the judgment day. Allah has already informed us in his Final revelation Quran so that people like you who think that Jesus is God may come to know truth that Jesus is a Messenger of God. 👉[Jesus said], *“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”* Qur’an 19:36 👉Jesus declared, *“I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.* Qur’an 19:30 👉“God almighty gives message to the whole world:” *O Mankind, submit to your Lord Who created you and those who were before you; in this way only you may expect to save yourselves.* *It is He Who has made the earth a bed for you and the sky a canopy; and it is He Who sends down rain⛈ from above for the growth of every kind of food products(🍇🍉🍎🍓🍒🥝🥥🌽🍊 )for your sustenance.* *So, when you know this, you should not set up equals to rank with Allah.* Qur'an 2 (21-22) 👉Allah almighty says, *O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous, Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you? In whatever form He willed has He assembled you.* Qur'an 82(6:8) *"In the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful."* This Message is from the slave and Messanger of Allah Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) to the Mankind. Peace be upon him, who follows the right path. Furthermore I invite you to Islam, and if you become a Muslim you will be safe, and Allah will double your reward, and if you reject this invitation of Islam you will be committing a sin. (And I recite to you Allah's Statement:) 👉Allah almighty our creator says, *Say, "O people of the Book! Come to what is common between us and you, that we worship none but Allah; that we associate nothing with Him and that none of us shall make as our Lord any other than Allah."* *If they reject your invitation, then tell them plainly, "Bear witness that we are Muslims (who worship and surrender to Allah alone)."* Qur'an (3:64) 👉Allah almighty says, *Your real Deity is but One. He Who is Lord of the earth and the heavens and of all that is between them, and Lord of all Easts.* Qur'an (37:5) *Allah is our creator who gives life and death and will again resurrect us on the day of Judgment.* *Fear Allah & Worship only Allah without any partners.* *There is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is his Last and Final Messanger.*
@@wacharaboy "GOD'S MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS:" *And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”* He will answer, *“Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?* *If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.* *You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.* *Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.* I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: *“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.* *If You punish them, they belong to You after all. But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.* *Allah will declare, “This is the Day when ˹only˺ the faithful will benefit from their faithfulness.* *Theirs are Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. That is the ultimate triumph.* *To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and everything within. And He is Most Capable of everything.* Quran Al-Ma'idah Chep 5 Verse (116-120) 👉This Conversation between Jesus(PBUH) with Allah Almighty will take place on the judgment day. Allah has already informed us in his Final revelation Quran so that people like you who think that Jesus is God may come to know truth that Jesus is a Messenger of God. 👉[Jesus said], *“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”* Qur’an 19:36 👉Jesus declared, *“I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.* Qur’an 19:30 👉“God almighty gives message to the whole world:” *O Mankind, submit to your Lord Who created you and those who were before you; in this way only you may expect to save yourselves.* *It is He Who has made the earth a bed for you and the sky a canopy; and it is He Who sends down rain⛈ from above for the growth of every kind of food products(🍇🍉🍎🍓🍒🥝🥥🌽🍊 )for your sustenance.* *So, when you know this, you should not set up equals to rank with Allah.* Qur'an 2 (21-22) 👉Allah almighty says, *O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous, Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you? In whatever form He willed has He assembled you.* Qur'an 82(6:8) *"In the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful."* This Message is from the slave and Messanger of Allah Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) to the Mankind. Peace be upon him, who follows the right path. Furthermore I invite you to Islam, and if you become a Muslim you will be safe, and Allah will double your reward, and if you reject this invitation of Islam you will be committing a sin. (And I recite to you Allah's Statement:) 👉Allah almighty our creator says, *Say, "O people of the Book! Come to what is common between us and you, that we worship none but Allah; that we associate nothing with Him and that none of us shall make as our Lord any other than Allah."* *If they reject your invitation, then tell them plainly, "Bear witness that we are Muslims (who worship and surrender to Allah alone)."* Qur'an (3:64) 👉Allah almighty says, *Your real Deity is but One. He Who is Lord of the earth and the heavens and of all that is between them, and Lord of all Easts.* Qur'an (37:5) *Allah is our creator who gives life and death and will again resurrect us on the day of Judgment.* *Fear Allah & Worship only Allah without any partners.* *There is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is his Last and Final Messanger.*
Makes me think about how the different Gospels highlight different aspects of the life of Jesus and His teachings, depending on which audience it was being directed to. It also makes me think about the different art and versions of the flood story that vary all around the world. All seemingly about the same event, but with variations upon the details, and differ depending on the culture.
From what I understand too the early images of him were decimating him performing miracles like healing people. Not the crucified condemned man we see mostly now. You can sort of see why too, if you wish to attract followers to Christianity then emphasis on being arrested and crucified might not be the best way to go about it.
@@lw3646 Decimating? Do you mean depicting? I don't think they shy-ed away from the fact that Jesus was arrested and crucified. In fact, they put extra emphasis on it because that's one of the main things of the faith.
It makes perfect sense for there to be more than one interpretation - beard or no beard - because he wasn't always the same age... He had different haircuts... And then eventually people settled on one look or style. Pretty amazing. This video affirms a lot!
@@withlessAsbestos yeah and it’s weird that it’s never depicted but then the image that is the most popular is the one of Cesare Borgia which looks nothing like the biblical description
was a tradition where Jewish people wore no beard until a certain age or got married? Thus he probably wore a beard near the end of his life. Come of age at 28 or 30: I am not clear on the tradition of when the hair on the face. Thus both types of images would exist.
if I had to guess I think it comes from evolving beauty standards for men. It was probably more popular for younger men to have short hair and be clean shaven during the times of Jesus' early depictions but over time beards become more popular and then we see depictions of Jesus with a beard. However idk if these were the real beauty standards of the time I'm just guessing.
Jesus was a Middle-Eastern Jew so just look at a modern native Israeli/Palestinian male and you get a rough idea of how he probably looked like. Jewish Rabbi makes sense.
@@bootbredda2724 well that's because the average American 2000 years ago was a completely different race then what you consider an American now ? Invasion , murder and all
Something interesting my Latin teacher told me in high school was that during the later years of Rome, when Christianity was gaining popularity throughout what remained of the Empire, they started Jesus in ways which reflect the common Roman citizen, as they believed the people would be more accepting of him if he looked just like they did.
I think one thing to remember is that Jesus is often portrayed in the likeness of the artist. So, you can have Jesus with blue eyes and golden hair, Black Jesus, Asian Jesus, etc. It wouldn't surprise me to see Jesus depicted as Roman.
@@threestars2164 yeah because that's just how it works. Muhammed wasn't real either, the arabs just randomly decided "Hey lets make this cool religion and conquer shit lol" and they of course all agreed to this because people tend to be super agreeable.
There was a home excavated from the volcanic ash in Pompeii that had a cross painted on the wall over the bed so people knew the biblical story of Jesus in 79AD and worshipped Him.
Can you cite your source? I've read this from other commenters but no one has been able to steer me to where this was actually found by archaeologists.
I was curious & read a couple articles about archeological presence of Christianity in Herculaneum and Pompeii (Cook, 2018; Longenecker, 2019) and the closest I can find to your claim is discussion about graffito inside a Pompeian residence (no reference to a bed) that may or may not include a specifically Christian cross - it may not even depict a cross at all, according to Cook, but Longenecker is pretty convinced it a Christian cross. Visible presence of Christians in Herculaneum and Pompeii seems to be a pretty heated dispute between early Christian scholars from what I'm able to discern as an outsider at 4 am
@@irenes4939 Thanks for the info. The only thing I found wasn't recently but from years ago, also disputed, about cross-shaped damage to a wall. It appears to be above an altar or table of some sort. Some claim a cross was there and it was wrenched off the wall when the occupants left the city. Others claim it was just a shelf that was attached to the wall and at some point was ripped off in the pyroclastic blast.
Every culture portrayed Jesus as representing their own people. That way the people can relate to the religion and accept it easier as being "their story". This is a common thing with any historical event, which depending on who writes about it, you get a differing perspective or even a different story altogether. This is basic human psychology and is found around the world by all the examples of the different "Jesus" paintings.
True, studied depictions of religious figures for years, all over the world, and there is a traditional of depicting such people according to local appearance. It is not unusual, nor racist, as some suggest.
@@blackinpublic4193 Jesus is depicted in many ways, and the tendency to show him as a white man comes from the origin countries of missionaries, be they Catholic or other Western source. Slotracer is correct. If you want to guess at his real appearance, just look at Levantine men today, and he was never noted as looking remarkable, so wouldn't have been Romanesque pale, or Asian or sub-saharan African or Indian, even though many depictions show him as these ethnotypes, and others too.
I concur with SlotRacer Guy's take on representations of Jesus that reflect enculturation. The reason for that is Jesus did not have a national mission. His theological mission was amenable to any local culture. Curiously, the apparitions of Mary so common among Catholics for the last couple of hundred years also reflect local enculturation: when appearing in France, Mary is white, French features, blond and blue eyed; when appearing in Mexico, she is brown, Native American features, dark hair and brown-eyed, etc.
As a child in Germany, I was told by my parents that every artist depicts Jesus as a man of noble birth would be depicted in his country - as a Chinese, Bantu, Eskimo or, as we in Germany, as an German. Nobody knows what Jesus really looked like. Nor is it necessary, because only with the heart can you see your Saviour and Redeemer Jesus Christ.
I mean. Like all these depictions show him as white. Considering Buddah had blue eyes, Ghengis Khan had red hair, and many Iranians early on were blonde... Whites have graced the planet with our dominance for a very long time. King David was likely white as well as the israelites in general. Everyone else is actually just brown washing Him, despite all descriptions agreeing on His whiteness. And the word ruddy is used for David, which means he can blush, which is a white feature. Is it really so bad? Whites have blessed the world 1000 times over with our discoveries, perhaps they're actually just racists against us.
@elindio9884 why is being white the only view everyone hates? No one cares if he is brown, black, middle eastern, whatever. But if anyone is white it's a problem. Ya'll are racists and the world always has been against white people
@@eckee Jesus of Nazareth most likely existed even if you dont believe he was the son of god. Given where Nazareth is the man was probably middle eastern.
@eliohayek8955 making imagery or looking at artworks is simply a cultural discourse and not necessarily worship or bowing down about idolatry . The ten commandments does not state we are forbidden to communicate artistically about holy subjects, but says to not worship images
Differences in beards and hairs between Byzantine and Roman depictions should tell us that the depictions were made according to different cultural styles of both empires' art. Roman elites were beardless, short haired but Byzantine elites were the opposite, long beards. They should have drawn him as an elite, so actually depictions don't give us necessary information about how he looked like in real.
It was the same empire but the representations where a few hundred years apart and the beard actually comes from western mythology because Jesus needed to replace Jupiter.
@@TV-oj8uh yes and also the beard was signification of strength in the east. Latin and Greek empires were socially distinguished at this. You can't see beardless Byzantine emperor and you can't see any facial hair of Latin emperors, in old depictions.
@@mehmetalierfidan6433 But you can... Nero,Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, Lucius Verus, Marcus Aurelius, Pertinax, Didius Julianus, Seprimus Severus, Caracalla, Macrinus, Gordian I and II, Pupienus, Balbinus, Philip the arab, Treboniasus Gallus, Volusianus, Aemilian, Gallienus, Claudius Ghoticus, Quintillus, Aurelian, Tacitus, Florianus, Probus, Carus, Carinus and Numerian. So dont tell me the western emperors didnt have beards.
@@TV-oj8uh sorry, my mistake, my knowledge is limited, and I wasn't pointing you while saying you, just for example. Actually I wasn't disagreeing with your first comment, i meant to emphasize it. Jesus was depicted with beard in the east. It gives clues to make a meaning of cultural roots and also mythology as u said.
This is just a guess, but it may be the position in the church: if it's on the front wall, it's centre stage; a position usually reserved for Jesus to this day.
Some dude 2000 years ago: I kinda feel bad for making fun of Alex now that he saw the graffiti. His wife: Dont worry, I'm sure people will forget all about it. Now: And so here is the oldest depiction of Jesus!
A non believer who lept saying CE Instead of A.D. who saves the insult depiction of the founder of our faith for last to poke fun at our beliefs, calling christ a donkey! Wow..... hate to be this guy on the day judgement. Why have a non believer show depictions of christ using athiests terms for the calendar? Then show grafitti that makes fun of christ showing him as a donkey?do you really Want my commet GOD hater? Go take a bike.ride in traffic with joe biden! Dont worry, i ll save a place in those catacombs for the two of ya!
@@OkOk-sx7tx Noah’s sons are believed to have started this (Gen 10 I believe) regardless the color, Acts 10:34 is a GREAT Scripture to live by instead of individual colored glasses🌹
@@adriangudino3412 Spirituality, which Yeshua preached about used to be just a way of life before these man made religion came to be, and I can state whatever opinion I want, I speak truth and i don’t care if you don’t like it!
I wish we had cameras and pictures (or even video) from that time period. Or actually any time period in ancient history. It would be so interesting to see what people actually looked like. And how they actually lived.
People's faces are generally not symmetrical anyway, models get closer to symmetry. I did an art project where we took a full size face only page from a magazine, and cut right down the center. Paste it on white paper and draw the other half of the face. When you do that you're mirroring what you see, so the result usually doesn't look like the person. I did it twice for the other half of the face, so each face I ended up with were different from each other and neither looked like the original
Every artistic rendering of Jesus that we have come across here is most often from the artist's imagination, that mainly has it's origins and background of his or her's particular region, beliefs and culture.
I honestly think it is intentional so that "every tribe" can more closely relate to Jesus. Jesus is much bigger than what ethic group he was born into.
@@vi-r22 It is intentional as to cover up the genetic ancestry of Jesus. The most important detail is given at the beginning of this video: The true earliest images of Jesus were destroyed by the Roman Empire. As you can see at the end of the countdown, the "afro" is slowly and deliberately converted into a halo.
There is one that was supposedly drawn based on the impressions from the shroud they supposedly found from the tomb Jesus was buried in. I think it is the image this video showed briefly towards the beginning....called the "anthropological reconstruction". It shows Jesus' face as wide, his nose wide, and curly hair. I have a feeling it comes close except I do believe Jesus skin may have been a little darker.....just a hunch.
the first picture shown ( St. Catherine's monastery ) actually gave me goosebumps, both from the realization of the mirrored image and from how well it was drawn
The most famous Voronet monastery in Romania actually have the real depiction of Jesus Christ, his Angels, King David and the BLACK hand of The Most High God. It also shows a certain race of people who have been ruling and destroying the planet earth with their world wars going into slavery with chains on judgement day. Isiah 14:2
Gave me the the creeps. Something is not quite right with it. Especially the eye on the right. Also the color scheme was altered from the original. The hands are not in the same color group that would have matched the face/neck. Along with the extreme darkness used for the robe, I think the head/neck is a paint over. (Not at all uncommon in early times when supplies were limited). I truly would love to see new technology used on it to see if there were previous layers.
Lklk Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
I have actually been to St Catherine's. Twice in fact, although I've only been in the library once, and that was back in 1969. We were told they have an unimaginable collection of ancient works, all off limits to all but a select group of the monks themselves. Your two illustrations are spectacular, and the dual portrait of Jesus obviously precedes DaVinci's Mona Lisa by a thousand years!
I think a valid interpretation of the “wand” is that it was meant to be a staff, like Moses. Jesus is often compared to Moses and it would not be surprising for art to depict him with a staff, like Moses is depicted to have used to perform miracles by God’s power
I dunno, these early depictions seem more urban than products of 'wandering nomadic folk' or even rural people. I think it is reasonable to assume a staff would mean little to the urban Greek or Roman Christian of the 3rd Century, whereas a magic wand might have been just the thing. I guess both theories seem plausible to me.
Qzqz Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
Good point, also because Jesus and his disciples walked from village to village and even long distances like from Samaria to Jerusalem, which was how all but the very rich traveled. Most such travelers used walking sticks, and many rural people were shepherds who carried staffs. The majority of the population was rural not urban. So everyone could relate to a walking stick.
if i had a time machine i’d 100% make someone paint an accurate portrait of him for everyone to see years later. how special that he have art from so long ago
They may have and they might have been destroyed during iconoclasm. It's hard to wrap your head around what might have been destroyed. Even documents supporting icons may have been destroyed. At least the Sinai image was in the desert and was left untouched.
if you search up jesus face reconstruction, you'll find an image that may have been close to what he historically looked like, no one has any remains of jesus so theres no concrete proof his face looks like that, but scientists used archeological evidence of other galilean semites of his era, unless we have a time machine we will never rly know what jesus looked like but his face reconstruction might give a historically accurate perspective on how he probably did look
They did, but they were of Julius Caesar! Look up F. Carrota's Gospel of Caesar...its a slam dunk to explain why he looks Roman in some of the earliest art of Jesus. Been learning a lot about Roman times during Caesar's reign...many parallels with our own current politics. Yikes.
The image at 4:00. On the left he is at peace and his hands are embracing his heart space. On the right he is holding religious books, these heavy books full of wisdom. The lesson seems to be to feel it in your heart rather than hold on to it literally.
No.😆😆I mean why does every religious person say they believe in the scriptures but they never take the scriptures literal or at face value? They always have to create their own imaginary idea of what they think the scriptures MIGHT mean.
@@fucgoogle4607 I can think of two main reasons why. One that it's understood that the scriptures we have are an incomplete account that have been passed through many years, hands, and many translations (UsefulCharts actually has a few good videos on this). And due to the age of these texts, some parts will be more or less relevant to modern sensibilities. Religious texts are ancient, and follow many traditions we have discontinued: one of which is the value placed on metaphor, symbolism, and parables to get a point across, rather than accurately relaying "objective" facts, so the entire Bible is difficult to discern historical fact from metaphor. So different interpretations are inevitable but that doesnt undermine the value of the texts, you just need to understand the context. Two that religion is inherently a spiritual experience - a relationship with the unknown; the point is not to follow scripture as a one-to-one instruction manual but to use it to develop your relationship with whatever deity you follow. Faith and spirituality comes first, scripture is used to aid spirituality. Several passages in the Bible instruct its readers to do this as well; it places an emphasis on pondering scripture for yourself. Proverbs 15:14, 2 Timothy 3:16, for example. Anyway, very fascinating video. (Edited for clarity)
And Hosea 4:6 Says People perish for the lack of knowledge........And that's exactly whats being displayed here...But let me help you ..KJV 1619..REV 1:4......The real image of Yahusha (Jesus)...This is the meaning of the truth setting you free....
@@alfredallen3350 this is the arrogance that so many people are tired of. The Bible is but one piece of the puzzle, written and manipulated by man over thousands of years.
For some stubborn and intelligent persons who He loves and selects, He will narrow their ways till they have to believe in Him. Otherwise, they have no other way out.
What's amazing are the stories being depicted, the fact that almost 300 years after Jesus's birth someone heard the story in perfect detail and drew a picture of it and the story of the woman touching his garment, its also amazing that those very stories have further survived another 1800 years and are still found word for word in our bibles. Nothing was "lost in translation", like they always try to say.
The names of the Gospel writers were added in the second century. Your book contains contradictions and errors, and the texts are also manipulated and inserted into your book. The evidence is in your hands, search before it is too late
@@thekeepers15 Many terms can be ambiguous or have no exact 1:1 equivalents, so translators over the centuries had to pick which meanings they would pick. Translations are essentially paraphrasing
Thank you, sincerely, for your time, thought, and informed goodwill shared in this curation. It suggests so many levels of (re)consideration without being dogmatic or pushing a partisan narrative. Bless you and yours, Sir.
Reminds me of when i was a little girl and i tried to explain that we don't know what any biblical person looked like, the little girls next door thought i was crazy. After all our church was filled with statues.
@@MafuHardy I guess but there aren't many physical descriptions. Only if necessary to tell the story. For example, Esau was a hairy and rough looking man. That description was placed in the scriptures to make a distinction between he and his brother.
The drawing from the catacombs is depicting my favorite story of Christ healing someone, the woman who touched his garment. It’s also one of my favorite hymns: Touch The Hem Of His Garment
She's been menstruating for years and wasn't Jewish. The passage says that when she touched his rove he felt his power go out of him (for a moment). This is again magic or making him seem like he has supernatural healing powers. People then, (and now) go to Christianity because 1. They want to live forever (see the image of Lazarus being raised) 2. They sought someone who could heal them. In theology I made up a story about this unknown woman and pictured her as a rape survivor with a psychosomatic condition whereby she keeps menstruating. This was a big heretical to some of my Christian classmates but they could see that this story could be put into a modern context for mental and emotional healing.
Very similar to cultural beliefs. That you could 'pick up' someone's blessing or good luck simply by touching them, their hair or their clothes. Famous story of the woman Valeria in the 1st century bce, who plucked some threads from the toga of the Roman dictator Sulla, and he felt her touch his toga, and turned. She explained she wanted to pick up some of his good luck (Sulla was famous for it). He was charmed and later married her.
The image at 2:50 seems clearly to have been relied upon by the Shroud. The hair, eyes, the broken nose and the "v" between the nose are all consistent with the Shroud. So too is the flowing hair on His left side. I'm almost convinced that the Shrould had been seen by this artist.
@@lw3646 It's even "inconclusive" to the man who wrote the book "Verdict on the Shroud" by Gary Habermas. Somedays he's convinced it's the burial cloth of Jesus, and on other days he believes there is about an 80% probability. I personally believe it is because I can't imagine how 3D data could have been transferred to a linen sheet by means of dehydration of the outermost fibrils back in the 12th or 13th century by an artist.
It's important to note that the early, Eastern Roman depictions show him as a Judean man, wearing a Tallith over his tunic. The Tallith was a square robe with fringes or tasskes, that all Judeans wore and had two dark stripes on the men's Tallith and a notched right angle design on the corners of the woman's Tallith. Actual fragments of 2nd Temple era Talliths have been found in archeological digs in Israel. Today, the large Tallith is worn mainly on Shabbat during prayers by men. It must have at least two fringes, as required in the Torah. It stopped being the traditional over robe of Judeans as they adopted the garments of the nations that they lived among, after the expulsion by Rome from Judea
@delmariecrandall9229 Until the Middle Ages, all Judeans wore a Talit as their over garment. Then it was decided by the leading Rabbi's, through correspondence, that wearing the local garb was acceptable. So most men will wear a large Talit in Synagogue or during communal prayer, and many observant Jews wear a "little Talit" under their shirts, with the four knotted fringes showing. Women were allowed to not wear a Talit anymore.
In the end jesus was depicted in the way people at the time wanted him to look like. He looks roman to the romans, he may look asian to asians, some black communities portray him as black as well. Saying jesus was exclusively of one single race may be accurate, but misses the point of the connection different cultures have with him.
Somewhere i read that he was depicted with a beard because that way reminded people of the ancient greek philosophers. Making him look wise as a result. So yeah, unless we get a portrait from the time he was alive one can only speculate.
@@fpsgod3028 Not in my Catholic School. What was depicted there was a Cardinal Pretending to be Jesus. It turned out to be an image of Mao Zedong. I mean, Jesus was never a Communist, right?
The shroud which was first recorded as existing in 1354 in France (that's over 1000 years after Jesus's death for those not paying attention) and was later denounced as a forgery by the bishop of Troyes, Pierre d’Arcis, in 1389... That shroud? Man you Christians really need to do some research sometimes. Sigh
If people once likened the depiction of Jesus carrying a lamb around his neck to those of Hermes/Mercury (12:54), then the image likely served a double purpose: Jesus as shepherd and Jesus as messenger.
4:09 On the left: Young Jesus walking earth and doing his wonders with words and hands; right: Matured Jesus, holding the New Testament in his hands. Amazing artwork.
Jesus would never have carried a 'new testament" because it was only written after he was murdered by the Romans. Jesus was a religious Jew and died as such. He had no knowledge of Christianity.
@@BraedenMartin Jesus would roll over in his grave if he heard you say that. Jesus was a Jew, a religious Jew. He was born a Jew to JEWISH parents, was circumcised as all Jewish baby boys are. He died as a Jew, murdered by Romans who nailed him to a cross. They did that to many other Jews of his time as well. Jesus did not start Christianity, what he did was to create yet another sect of Judaism. Just as there are several sects of Judaism today.
@@Lagolop Jesus wouldn’t be rolling over in His grave because He is not in His grave. However, I think where you and I disagree is how we define Christianity. I don’t define it as a religion. I define it as a relationship. Yes, Jesus was Jewish. The Bible is very clear of that. However, I believe the New Testament is fulfillment of many of the Old Testament’s prophecy’s. I believe that Jesus is the way and the truth. Jesus was Jewish, and certainly read the Jewish Bible (the Old Testament). I’m not disagreeing with you. But He did infact accomplish the mission God send Him here to do. And thus, Christianity. A relationship.
Kmkm Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
04:53 Short curly hair allows for curlier curls. Over the years, curly hair that is long and unwashed will be heavier weighing down the curls, to the point of wavy to straight rather than ones original natural curls. The hair, then begins growing in volume, due to sweat/grease and sand. Also the sun bleaches hair over the years.
It's a truism of religious history that humans create gods like themselves. These paintings show societies changing Jesus from a shepherd all the way into, in the dictatorial Byzantine empire, Christ Pantocrator, the stern emperor of all. Our conversation shows this kind of change too, doesn't it? In this secular age, War Kid, you imagine a secular Jesus, "regardless" of whether he just happened to be the Son of God. An Oxford-educated Victorian Christian would have been shocked by your indifference to the greatest issue that a human had to decide, before Judgement Day.
Jesus was described as plain looking, because in contrast to the various gods created by man, the one, true God’s son, in His earthly form, did not want to have the appearance of superiority or be perceived to promote the idea of vanity as purity or holiness. He also had no need to show His beauty and strength, because if He did, the people at the time might have cast Him off as just another Demi-God, Roman puppet, magician, warrior, prophet, etc., which would have defeated the purpose of Him subjecting Himself to the human experience. Besides unlike any other man-made god, He came to serve and save us from our sins, not punish us for them. But, this is not to imply that Jesus was in any way deformed by sin in His earthly birth, because His word is clear that he was perfect in every way (actions, words and physical appearance); this is in-line with the Old Testament as the Israelites would sacrifice the perfect lamb to God as an act of worship and obedience. Jesus knew He was the fulfillment of prophecy and would replace thousands of years of sacrifices as the final, ever-lasting, perfect sacrifice (as a symbol of obedience to His father, which is our Heavenly Father) to absolve everyone that has ever existed or will exist, for all time, of their sins against God.
I LOVED that last bonus one! So much personallity is shown and it's such a refreshing thing to see such a unskilled artist (Probably wasn't even an artists to begin with) poking fun at someone! Reminds me of a drawing you'd see on some parent's refrigerator from their child. Amazing video and I hope you will do more of these things. Maybe show more murals and icons and other religious top 10s?
Many often forget that the people of history were just like us, simply in different environments. Like I’m 100% sure during the Roman era people did a variation of memes, like giving Caligula a horsehead and sharing it with my homie Darius on a peice of bark
Check out the Ethiopian Bible. It's the oldest surviving bible which includes the Apocrapha. In it I believe there are paintings of Jesus. He is darker skinned.
It's all hogwash. Jesus never looked like that am pretty sure. Such depictions are just to make him look so good. By contrast Satan is deposited as black.
No Jesus was not darker skinned like Ethiopians. Ethiopians are black. The are the descendants of Ham. Jesus came from the line of Shem. Jesus would have been of middle eastern descent. Ham's skin turned black when Noah cursed him for maternal incest. Canaan is the son of that sexual act that Ham committed with Noah's wife. Watch out for afrocentrics.
I agree. In Revelation 1:15 tells that His feet like fine brass. Brass is more like a tan skin tone. In fact He lives in the middle east who definitely has dark/tan skin tone.
With the pictures of Jesus, as you gave the "graffiti" at the end a mention, you probably should've said it's estimated to be from the 1st to 3rd centuries with most of the guesstimates being cast for the 2nd and 3rd.
Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Written about 700 years before Jesus came in the flesh. Oldest copy being found in the Dead Sea Scrolls dated to be around 150-200 years before Jesus' birth.
@Gutslinger Written by a prophet who got the inspiration from God. Only people of faith understand this, and only people of faith will see Him again with nail piercings on His hands and a spear wound on His side. Remember what doubting Thomas said once he Him.
@SunshineRoses333 I can't recall that anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this: "Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross) Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says: "But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8 Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.
@SunshineRoses333 I can't recall that anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this: "Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross) Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says: "But I am a w*rm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8 Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.
@SunshineRoses333 I don't know if anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this: "Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross) Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says: "But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoo out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8 Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.
Rfrf Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
In the report of Pontius Pilate to Caesar Augustus he describes Jesus as light haired and light skin compared to the many blackbeards and tawny complextion. (The Archko Volume)
First, Augustus had been dead for over a decade by the time of Jesus' death. If anything, Pilatus would have sent that report to Tiberius... the ruling emperor at the time of Jesus' crucifixion. And even then, Pilarus would have sent it to Sejanus, Tiberius' deputy in Rome at that time. It is said that it was Sejanus who appointed Pontius Pilatus in Judea. Second, there is no mention anywhere that Pilatus sent any reports to Rome about the crucifixion of Jesus. Even less likely that a depiction or description of Jesus was attached.
The supposed letter from Pontius Pilate is a hoax, and The Library of Congress has issued a statement declaring that it has no such document. There aren't any legitimate eyewitness descriptions of Christ (but given where he was from, he probably wasn't white). The Archko Volume also has no legitimacy among any historians. Mahan (who wrote it) was even summoned before church authorities on charges of falsehood and plagiarism after writing it. But nice try
When I was a little girl there was a local church that kept a large copy of the Sallman picture just inside it's front doors. It was always lit up so if you drove by at night you could see it. I liked looking at it then. My parents also told me a story that I don't remember, perhaps I was four, and my sister three, when we were in the picnic area of a national park. They said a young man wearing a long white shirt, with beard and long hair, came walking through. I'm told we got excited and said it was Jesus, while they shushed us. That would make a good story, kids recognizing him but not the adults.
@@adamajagne3487 He was not black, or at least not what we Americans would call black/African American. If you wanted to do a picture of him I'd use as a model any one of the Semitic, olive complected folks that live in the Mid East now.
@Adama Jagne, if you're at all interested in such things, there was what is called a Eucharistic miracle in Mexico in the early 2000s (to make a long teaching short, Catholics believe that the bread and wine at their mass (services) really turns into the body and blood of Jesus. Occasionally, this change becomes visible and stuff starts bleeding). They had a scientist test the blood without telling him where it came from, and it came back as human, AB positive...and with no discernable ethnicity. That last bit is completely unprecedented. Even when someone is "mixed", scientists are able to tell the different places or origin in the DNA. Not this time. So...He "belongs" to all of us.
the alexamenos graffiti also shows the cross as being a capital T shape which is probably more accurate than the lower case t shape. it's a lot simpler to cut into one timber and nail it to the top of a post than it is to make matching cutouts.
I had heard about that in the past. But, then they would need a place to fasten the sign that said, "king of the Jews," which was said to be above his head. Unless the sign had its own pole attached to the T shaped cross.
@@markbcrich I imagine when someone is crucified their heads would actually end up being belong the intersection of the "T" so there would be a space for a sign.
@@sawahtb i think this is most likely. it's a terrible way to die. as the victim becomes exhausted from holding themselves up the position causes restricted breathing. hypoxia or dehydration kills them over the course of a few days and the victim ends up slumped. there's also the idea that the nails went through the palms but this is not likely because the body weight would rip the hands free between the fingers which counteracts the whole dying goal (modern people have been crucified for various reasons and it seems to be a problem with it). the nails would go through the wrists which would hold better. the alexamenos art neither suggests this nor suggests against it though.
@@sawahtb Yes. That is possible. But, early Christian fathers tend to describe it at a (t) shape. E.g.: Irenaeus "the very form of the cross, too, has five extremities, two in length, two in breadth, and one in the middle, on which [last] the person rests who is fixed by the nails". Justin Martyr: "That [passover] lamb which was commanded to be wholly roasted was a symbol of the suffering of the cross which Christ would undergo. For the lamb, which is roasted, is roasted and dressed up in the form of the cross. For one spit is transfixed right through from the lower parts up to the head, and one across the back, to which are attached the legs of the lamb." "No one could say or prove that the horns of a unicorn represent any other fact or figure than the type which portrays the cross. For the one beam is placed upright, from which the highest extremity is raised up into a horn, when the other beam is fitted on to it, and the ends appear on both sides as horns joined on to the one horn. And the part which is fixed in the centre, on which are suspended those who are crucified, also stands out like a horn; and it also looks like a horn conjoined and fixed with the other horns". Tertullian: "the very structure of our body suggests the essential and primal outline of a cross. The head ascends to the peak, the spine stands upright, the shoulders traverse the spine. If you position a man with his arms outstretched, you shall have created the image of a cross. Dionysius of Halicarnassus : " The men ordered to lead the slave to his punishment, having stretched out both his arms and fastened them to a piece of wood which extended across his breast and shoulders as far as his wrists, followed him, tearing his naked body with whips. " Seneca the Younger: "“I see crosses there, not just of one kind but made in many different ways: some have their victims with head down to the ground; some impale their private parts; others stretch out their arms on the gibbet”
To the great, he appeared as great. To the small, as small. To the angels, he appeared as an angel. To the humans, as a human. Some looked at him and thought they saw themselves. He appeared as a single manifestation of all of them.
Gvgv Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
Thank you so much for your comment reminding well-taught followers of Yashua (God's Savior son in Hebrew) that what Jesus looked like, though an interesting study, does not compare to what He meant to be taken as. x
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Right? No clips - no segwey into 30 seconds of the video being him asking us to check out some site and use the promo. Very clean vids; very appreciated.
The more & more that I see pictures of “Jesus”, the more I am convinced He was drawn to look like everyone during that specific time..perhaps the artist saw a bit of themselves in their depiction of Him…I wouldn’t believe at all that’s a coincidence..🧐🧐🤔👍🏽👍🏽😇
Ygyg Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
Revelation 1/14/15 his head and hair were white like wool as white as snow and his eyes like a flame of fire and his feet like fine brass as burn in a furnace according to the bible christ had wooly hair red eyes and skin as burn in a furnace burn something in a furnace see what color it turn so he couldn't look like everyone at that time because everyone at that time or this time doesn't look alike
Thank you Matt!! That was awesome. I saw the actual original of the last one you talked about, the donkey one, in a museum on the Capitoline Hill Rome. This was a great episode.
The wand seems to be a reference to Manumissio vindicta, a way to free an slave in ancient Rome. It was a simulated trial before a magistrate, where the owner touched the head of the slave with a tree wand and the slave immediatelly became a free person. I love this image of Jesus from the roman understanding that seems suggest that Jesus frees Lazzarus from the slavery of the death. Thinking as a roman, Death was a minor god too (Pluton/ Hades).
Isn't it ironic how some so called Christians worship a Jew enough to have an image of him in their homes, yet they hate his people. Just sayin'. Thank God for the Jewish state of Israel. There will never be another holocaust set upon the Jewish people.
It is possible that Jesus was sometimes bearded and sometimes clean shaven. Perhaps living outdoors didn't always lend itself to shaving, but being hosted in a house by a well off follower may have enabled him to spruce up a bit.
It actually seems likely that as a Jewish man (who was possibly a rabbi) he would have had a beard, and that already in those earliest depictions he was being reimagined as more typically Roman
Jesus might have been a rabbi, but his profession was that of his legal father, Joseph. He was a carpenter, and would work both inside and outside but not living outdoors like a shepard.
When I was in Jerusalem several year's ago, I visited Ciaphase's House where Jesus was imprisoned before his crucifixion. On the rock wall of the cell he was held in, I could see a depiction of what looked like Christ nealing in prayer, and he was bearded. I think maybe no one else has ever seen this impression on the wall before me, because if so I would have thought it'd been highlighted for the tourist to look at, and part of the common knowledge regarding the sight. My eyes could see the image plainly. I took a picture of the image on the cell wall, and to this day, when I look at the photo I took, I can still make out the image on the wall as clear as that day that I first saw it in person.
You have to be joking, right? Millions of tourists and hundreds of thousands of scholars have gone through that site (not sight) and you're the only one who has ever seen it? In general it pays to reconsider things from another perspective... please try to do that
In 17th century Dutch paintings of Jeruzalem, the city is depicted like a Dutch city, sometimes even with ships in a harbour. Liberty of the artist :-)
I remember reading some (possibly not true) written accounts of Jesus by the Romans. Whatever he looked like it seemed that his physical looks were nothing impressive but his facial expressions seemed to have an impact on people.
It makes sense that his physical looks were nothing impressive. Otherwise there would have been no need for Judas to point out who Jesus was, he could have told "the one who is a head taller than all the others", or something like that.
Isaiah prophesied of Jesus some eight centuries beforehand that "he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him" (Isaiah 53 : 2).
@@praevasc4299 this kind of story is similar to gautam buddha. I didn't clearly remember but in that story , when king meet group of monk including buddha , he can't differentiate other monk with buddha.
I fear many will not know Him when they see him. Just like He was not recognized the first time. Many will claim to be faithful, but on the day of judgement fall short.
@Tree Amen, we need to repent and admit we need a savior, we can’t do anything by our works only by him our LORD AND GOD JESUS CHRIST as he is the ONLY way. May HE bless you all brothers and sisters 🙏
@@scambammer6102 it could be . But I guess we'll never know . Perhaps he's a real man , who's story got mixed up a few times . They didn't have any internet back then lol 😆 😂 so I'm guessing that it all travelled by mouth
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I must say I found your presentation to be very informative. I enjoy learning new ( to me) things about the man who lived so long ago and influenced the world we live in today.
@@Steve-yx1xj Yes, he is. In fact Jesus only did 3 years of ministry and left the biggest legacy in the World. Not even the greatest leader can leave a big legacy like what Jesus did. Can you imagine tha! ONLY 3 YEARS.
I accidentally played this video without any intention of watching it but decided to watch it any way and found it to be very fascinating and interesting!!!!!
Very interesting! What struck me the most was that #2 is what is used to depict the Good Shepherd that is taught by the Catechesis of the Good Shepherd.
Ñmñm Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
@sophiaherschel567 so what is your point? Even if other stories were told 10,000 or 100,000 bc of One Who would have 40 lashes or would be crucified for our sins or even if they made their own martyrs, this does not then discredit that the One Who came and was crucified 2,000 years ago was the True One prophesied about, the True Son of God. His Coming has been known since the Beginning of time.
In the first picture of our Lord there is also letters in his halo. Christ will be the only one with letters in his halo. Meaning “He who is” also often interpreted as “The Existing One”
Thanks! That was most interesing. For any other viewers, I will add that I bought 3 of the family tree posters advertised by the proprietor of this channel (European royal families starting with Charlemagne, Greco-Roman gods, and Biblical figures). They are absolutely brilliant, I am so pleased I went to the trouble of having them shipped to Australia, and I could not recommend them highly enough. The one depicting Greek gods made reading Homer and Hesiod much easier. Aside from the information, the graphics, the layout, the use of color and position, are all superb.
As you can see from the ancient frescos and sarcophagus the "wand", stick appears only when there is a resurrection, not every time that a miracle happened... That is because is a symbol of the Aarons/ Moses stick which gave life and behind it is the cross of Jesus. That was a teaching to the catechumens so it got in their art as well.
The Beatles were more popular than Jesus with young people in the 1960s. Should we bow down to them? Does anyone with half a brain actually care about social media influencers?
@@dandiedinmont8964 lmao John was written around 80 A.D. That's not couple of centuries-old. Also most of historical figures have their sources couple of hundreds after their death, the fact that Jesus had a source so close to his death is more of evidence that he existed than otherwise.
That's fantastic, I'd heard and seen quite a few of the images shared. But the Explanation of the Dual Nature of Christ's Godhood and Humanity hadn't crossed my mind. I'd seen the image in some churches and wondered why no artist had corrected it. I wonder if the angrier face is to represent Humanity of God. I feel many modern people would imagine God being the angry one, while the ancients may have seen humanity being the angry one. But alas, I guess I got some homework. Blessings!
the Divine side holds the Gospel and the sterness represents judgement of thr Word. His human nature is the side that blesses humanity and has mercy and compassion
The Pilate letters are later forgeries, no historian considers them genuine (we have no writings by Pilate of any kind), the Letter to Tiberius is Renaissance & the Archko Volume is 19thC
Fascinating as always, thank you. There seems to be a general assumption that Jesus maintained a constant appearance throughout his adult life, but I guess it's possible that he changed his hair, beard and style of dress from time to time.
I don't think thats the right conclusion. It is more likely that the few remaining depictions where just "depictions" . No one knew what he looked like so they drew him as they imagined. Romans depicted Jesus as a roman etc.
I was getting ready to ask why you didn't include Alexamenos's donkey-headed Jesus. I'm glad you decided to include it as a bonus. Great video. Thanks!
It establishes belief in Jesus as an hystorical fact. There is no primary evidence for an historical Jesus. Just secondary accounts. Unlike John the Baptist who was being written about while he was still alive.
@@Concreteowlregardless, the last roman inscription doesn’t insinuate Jesus not being real. Many historians (who are atheist) agree that Jesus was a real figure. It would be pretty wild, through all the cultural shifts surrounding this person, to believe he wasn’t real and this is all made up. Especially since the Roman’s never discredited his existence.
I watched the PBS special From Jesus to Christ, and there was one early depiction of Jesus which I didn't see you display, though I can't recall exactly where it was taken from. Thank you for the edification, the images are quite enlightening in showing the various artistic styles from various areas and eras. ✨😊
, probably not..... Jesus was Jewish and no mention in the Gospels that either Mary or Jesus was dark skinned, black or darker skinned than the Romans or Greeks or other Jews at the time
@@chordsofgratitude2073 Original Romans and Greeks were not Semites but were Japhetites. The gospels say Mary and Joseph were from the tribe of Judah whom are no longer Jews.
@@chordsofgratitude2073 I believe you're right. What a profound observation! I don't think Yahweh is the god everybody thinks. He actually likes to mix it up a bit! Which is pretty apparent if He plans to reunite the Hebrew Sheeple...
In the last one, the bonus, I think it's supposed to say Alexamenos respects (the) God IX (Jesus Christ - Because mind you this is wayyy too early for the ICXC to be accepted as the standard abbreviation for Jesus), so it is most definitely mocking Jesus, and I think he wasn't trolling someone, it was his own name, he was just mocking the religion as a whole probably quoting someone who told him "You're supposed to respect God" and then he was like "Oh yeah sure let me demonstrate you how much I do"
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What year was the bonus image from? You voiced it as though it was from earlier but didn't give a year range. Thanks for the video, was a good watch.
#4 looks like he just got back from his trip to India
Great. Now lets see depictions of Mohammed throughout history. You might want to update your last will first.
Jesus was a shape shifter
You should do one on Eastern Catholic Churches (not the eastern Orthodox) vs Eastern Orthodox vs Roman Catholic Churches
Greek is an incredible language. I'm greek and I can read and understand, what a greek dude wrote 2.000 years ago
meanwhile Chinese: hey this word written by our ancestor looks like a horse! lmao 🤣
Well if you can you should make videos of reading some of those old books.
Point out the words as you go along with your finger.
lol 2000 an you still can understand whats being said...in context. hmmmmmmmmmm . haha .same spoken crap for 2000 years. i dont believe you.
@@darren1934 I can easily read 1600 old Arabic texts easily
@@musaad9326 lies cgi
This is what I like about TH-cam. It would've taken me years to gather up this information from libraries and international traveling.
Go back to the drawing bored sure all of that sounds good and your photos don't fly right with your Caucasian Jesus
@@josephccallum6698 What are you talking about?
Google exists though
@@feelthejoy I'd rather watch a 16 minute video than go down a potentially multi-hour long rabbit hole, just to achieve the same information in the end.
@@powerofyahinyahshua4825 What's your point? These are de facto the oldest depictions of Jesus.
What’s interesting about the bonus image is that underneath “Alex worshipping his God”, someone added graffiti saying “Alex has faith.”
Wait, really?
Yes, but it isn’t “Alex”
It is “Alexamenos is faithful”
@@noelhoffman2184
Not sure why, but this really touched my soul. I bet he was smiling when he (or someone else) wrote it (if it indeed has the meaning I think it’s intended to have). Anyway
that’s beautiful dude
Based Alexamenus
I just want to share.. My interest in human history brought me to this video, a year ago. This video then piqued my interest in learning more history about Jesus. Ultimately, leading to reading the Gospels, the Bible and developing a relationship with Jesus Christ. Thank you. ❤️✝️👑
I Thank Godo for you. This shows that Jesus, our Lord can reach and find you anywhere.
Embarrassing
Amen🙏🏻
AMEN
@@MrShanester117yes, You Are an embarrassment.
Imagine being a Roman drawing a shitpost about your Christian neighbor/friend/coworker and becoming part of history
Chad
Thats how Killroy meme was born
Us
The fact that the earliest depiction of the Crucifixion of Jesus is anti-Christian shows just how unpopular the Christians were among the general population. It also shows that even pagan children knew quite a lot of the details of the Christian faith
One really has to remember that before Christianity went mainstreamnin the Empire, it sounded quite ridiculous to the Romans. And Christians were considered misguided fanatics.
as someone who is orthodox, the interpretation of the first icon (the Pantocrator) that’s generally accepted is that the “angry” side represents God the Righteous Judge, while the “kind” side is God the Lover of Mankind with the gospel being where the message of both comes from
I totally agree
How is this still monotheism?
@@kumarg3598 How is any person with different personalities still considered one person?
Don't you sometimes feel anger and other times happiness? Or sadness?
Are you a different person in each case?
@@thearbiter3351 I'm a priest myself. I was just trying to explain to @Kumar G how there can be two aspects in one person, like the OG explained.
@@anttibjorklund1869 ohh sorry my bad, didn't read it correctly
I live in Australia. There is a church that I used to walk past every day that is, I presume, run by Korean Christians. Every year near Christmas they would put up a painting of the nativity outside the church. A big ol' picture with a barn, baby Jesus, Mary, Joseph, three wise men, etc etc. In their depiction Jesus, Mary and Joseph were all clearly Korean, wearing old-fashioned Korean clothes. The three wise men looked like Confucian scholars.
hilarious
@@MRconfusedboy ofc it's also hilarious when jesus looks like european haha, he's clearly middle eastern, born in modern day israel, he's a levant
😂
@@roughysk9851people looked different thousands of years ago as well, all the wars, prisoners moved around, the migration patterns of tribes, and things are not quite as you see them with your modern bias, there're many examples of this from north Africa, to Egypt, to think that the gals were the only "European" looking ones is a mistake, and to think everyone looked like Arabic is also wrong, there's clearly pictures of light skinned ppl from thousands of years ago way before Jesus was born, from the sea ppls to caucuses. The middle Mediterranean had mixtures of all types because of ships ports scattered all over the sea, for instance Carthage, and look at the Berbers, there was so much migration going on back then that what we think of as a jew today isn't exactly what they look like now
@@roughysk9851 *Palestine
People draw or paint what makes them comfortable,usually a portrait is going to reflect their own race.
exactly
you are projecting but have aboslutely no clue about what you are talking about
no, you’re projecting. Imagine believing what some guy drew or wrote. How do you know if it’s true or not?
So now we know; Jesus was a donkey-headed human being...
@@Eternal_Knovahow do you know your scientific theory’s are true? Because you trust the guy who says he did the experiment and wrote the paper lol.
tbf depicting other races is hard, I remember in Catholic school the Nuns had brought portraits of Mary from various countries and it was so interesting to see how she varied, Samoa made her look Samoan, Japan made her look Japanese etc. It's not necessarily malicious.
i would love if that was the case but over the course of history the church became increasingly white supremacist and viewed any depiction of jesus outside of white European views as either lessor or simply wrong and countries adopting Christianity as lesser people who needed to be saved from their "savagery"
If depicting other races were as "hard" as you contend, then artists would never be able to draw anyone except people who look like themselves. Further, artists rarely draw Satan as looking like themselves; instead, they tend to draw the devil as looking like "the other." Your comment is well intended but isn't adding up.
@@emilerose1424 Never said it was impossible but it is harder if you've never done it. It was literally an exercise in art classes to draw someone with opposite features than your own for that reason. Same reason anime artists struggle at depicting black or south asian features or why medieval artists struggled at accurately depicting race and age of subjects they weren't familiar. Art styles also may be based off of certain races, look at eastern orthodox artwork, everybody had the same face shape and same length noses etc. because those were features artists were used to drawing. You're taking this very personally whereas it's simply just a natural thing people subconciously do
@@emilerose1424It was especially hard in ye olden times when you didn't travel much or at all. Literally everyone you knew looked alike. And even if the artist did travel it would cause an uncanny sensation on people looking at it for the same reasons mentioned, so it would be best to draw Him looking "normal".
the problem of drawing other races is that they often end-up in absurd caricatures that nobody likes@@emilerose1424
Omg! I’m Greek and I can read the Ancient Greek very easily in the first depiction of Christ. Our language has not changed in thousands of years!
Same goes for several Semitic languages (Hebrew, Arabic...)
so is turkish
so does apes language never change to this day
how come latin has changed so much and turned into italian, spanish, french, etc, while greek didnt? my guess is that , apart from roman aristocrats, roman citizens never spoke traditional latin, but always a regional different latin dialect.
@@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname just watched a history vid that touched on this topic. I believe you’re on the right track.
Given the heavy persecution the Christians faced during the first two centuries, it's not difficult to imagine that religious depictions from this era would have been destroyed or defaced to a massive extent (if made at all, since the stigma and fear associated with being a follower of Christ would have prevented it).
Gfgf
Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
@@Juan-lf6qo interesting
Agreeable. Also, the Church went through a period of persecution from those who believed in the heresy called “iconoclasm”. MANY icons (images) were destroyed under this heresy that swept through the Christian East and West.
2 minutes in and realized he mentioned exactly what I said 😂
Nah more like how Muslims won't let you draw Muhammad, early christians wouldn't let you depict Jesus.
I'm in my 80s. My father was a minister. Even I at a young age knew that the 1940s picture couldn't be right. There where many jews in our community, and non of them looked anything like that picture. Yes I have wondered what Jesus may look like. But I know, no matter what he may look like physically, my knees will bow before him.
ancient jews would not look like modern jews either
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The ancient Jews would not look like modern Jews, because genetically most of them are actually closer to edomites. Historian Josephus wrote that there was a heavy influx of edomites into Judaism around the time of Christ (King Herod being one). However to my knowledge, most non-Edomite Jews converted to Christianity fairly quickly
Amen
Have you heard of the shroud of touren?
This is the gold standard of how a top 10 video should be.
Too bad there is so much missing information on each time period and some faulty facts.
@eliohayek8955anything in excess is idol worship for the most part , your and my phones for instance could be a form of idol worship.
@eliohayek8955stop this
You make me laugh.
Personally disliked it right at the beginning: I mean how do you make a Jesus video and start using C.E instead of A.D.
I'm not really surprised that Jesus and other religious figures change in apearance depending in which region of the world they are depicted. People always tried to make Religious figures look like someone from the same region, so they are more relateable to resident people.
jesus wore beared as it is requiired in jewish culture.
The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape
Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.
Xenophanes
@@adrianlasin574
But if you look to Hollywood for a depiction of Jesus, he looks like his beard is all nicely trimmed and manicured as if he just stepped out of a salon.
Early depictions of Buddha way more impressive.
Yes. What REALLY bothers me is that so many people think Jesus was white and are against portraying Jesus as anything other than white, specifically when he's being worshipped by non white people. A Black church sould have a Black Jesus, an Indigenous church an Indigenous Jesus, etc.
Just want to point out that the “going backwards” strategy here actually created real dramatic tension! A great job on this, as always, UsefulCharts!
*Message for Christians from God:*
*They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the Messiah(Jesus), the son of Mary while the Messiah(Jesus) has said,*
*O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.*
*Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.*
Quran Al-Ma'idah (5:72)
Yes! When the narrator said "I'l be doing it in the form of a countdown" my first thought was "please let it be chronological and not the 'coolest'"
@@Iamthewarner557
The Quran comes 600 years after Jesus and His followers from an Arab man, not a Jew, and tries to tell us the identity of Jesus. Jesus is of course, divine, but he's not Allah. He's the true God of the Bible, who can do one thing that Allah cannot do. Believe on the Son of God and be saved before it's too late. Allah cannot save, he's a creature.
@@tempstep4058
"GOD'S MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS:"
*And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”*
He will answer,
*“Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?*
*If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.*
*You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.* *Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.*
I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say:
*“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.*
*If You punish them, they belong to You after all. But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.*
*Allah will declare, “This is the Day when ˹only˺ the faithful will benefit from their faithfulness.*
*Theirs are Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. That is the ultimate triumph.*
*To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and everything within. And He is Most Capable of everything.*
Quran Al-Ma'idah Chep 5 Verse (116-120)
👉This Conversation between Jesus(PBUH) with Allah Almighty will take place on the judgment day.
Allah has already informed us in his Final revelation Quran so that people like you who think that Jesus is God may come to know truth that Jesus is a Messenger of God.
👉[Jesus said],
*“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”*
Qur’an 19:36
👉Jesus declared,
*“I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.*
Qur’an 19:30
👉“God almighty gives message to the whole world:”
*O Mankind, submit to your Lord Who created you and those who were before you; in this way only you may expect to save yourselves.*
*It is He Who has made the earth a bed for you and the sky a canopy; and it is He Who sends down rain⛈ from above for the growth of every kind of food products(🍇🍉🍎🍓🍒🥝🥥🌽🍊 )for your sustenance.*
*So, when you know this, you should not set up equals to rank with Allah.*
Qur'an 2 (21-22)
👉Allah almighty says,
*O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous, Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you? In whatever form He willed has He assembled you.*
Qur'an 82(6:8)
*"In the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful."*
This Message is from the slave and Messanger of Allah Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) to the Mankind.
Peace be upon him, who follows the right path. Furthermore
I invite you to Islam, and if you become a Muslim you will be safe, and Allah will double your reward, and if you reject this invitation of Islam you will be committing a sin.
(And I recite to you Allah's Statement:)
👉Allah almighty our creator says,
*Say, "O people of the Book! Come to what is common between us and you, that we worship none but Allah; that we associate nothing with Him and that none of us shall make as our Lord any other than Allah."*
*If they reject your invitation, then tell them plainly, "Bear witness that we are Muslims (who worship and surrender to Allah alone)."*
Qur'an (3:64)
👉Allah almighty says,
*Your real Deity is but One. He Who is Lord of the earth and the heavens and of all that is between them, and Lord of all Easts.*
Qur'an (37:5)
*Allah is our creator who gives life and death and will again resurrect us on the day of Judgment.*
*Fear Allah & Worship only Allah without any partners.*
*There is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is his Last and Final Messanger.*
@@wacharaboy
"GOD'S MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS:"
*And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”*
He will answer,
*“Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?*
*If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.*
*You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.* *Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.*
I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say:
*“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.*
*If You punish them, they belong to You after all. But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.*
*Allah will declare, “This is the Day when ˹only˺ the faithful will benefit from their faithfulness.*
*Theirs are Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. That is the ultimate triumph.*
*To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and everything within. And He is Most Capable of everything.*
Quran Al-Ma'idah Chep 5 Verse (116-120)
👉This Conversation between Jesus(PBUH) with Allah Almighty will take place on the judgment day.
Allah has already informed us in his Final revelation Quran so that people like you who think that Jesus is God may come to know truth that Jesus is a Messenger of God.
👉[Jesus said],
*“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”*
Qur’an 19:36
👉Jesus declared,
*“I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.*
Qur’an 19:30
👉“God almighty gives message to the whole world:”
*O Mankind, submit to your Lord Who created you and those who were before you; in this way only you may expect to save yourselves.*
*It is He Who has made the earth a bed for you and the sky a canopy; and it is He Who sends down rain⛈ from above for the growth of every kind of food products(🍇🍉🍎🍓🍒🥝🥥🌽🍊 )for your sustenance.*
*So, when you know this, you should not set up equals to rank with Allah.*
Qur'an 2 (21-22)
👉Allah almighty says,
*O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous, Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you? In whatever form He willed has He assembled you.*
Qur'an 82(6:8)
*"In the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful."*
This Message is from the slave and Messanger of Allah Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) to the Mankind.
Peace be upon him, who follows the right path. Furthermore
I invite you to Islam, and if you become a Muslim you will be safe, and Allah will double your reward, and if you reject this invitation of Islam you will be committing a sin.
(And I recite to you Allah's Statement:)
👉Allah almighty our creator says,
*Say, "O people of the Book! Come to what is common between us and you, that we worship none but Allah; that we associate nothing with Him and that none of us shall make as our Lord any other than Allah."*
*If they reject your invitation, then tell them plainly, "Bear witness that we are Muslims (who worship and surrender to Allah alone)."*
Qur'an (3:64)
👉Allah almighty says,
*Your real Deity is but One. He Who is Lord of the earth and the heavens and of all that is between them, and Lord of all Easts.*
Qur'an (37:5)
*Allah is our creator who gives life and death and will again resurrect us on the day of Judgment.*
*Fear Allah & Worship only Allah without any partners.*
*There is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is his Last and Final Messanger.*
Makes me think about how the different Gospels highlight different aspects of the life of Jesus and His teachings, depending on which audience it was being directed to.
It also makes me think about the different art and versions of the flood story that vary all around the world. All seemingly about the same event, but with variations upon the details, and differ depending on the culture.
I don't think they have different audiences just different authors.
@ChristinaFromTH-cam at some time in the bronze age the climate got a lot wetter, populations declined, I don't know if this could have been it.
From what I understand too the early images of him were decimating him performing miracles like healing people. Not the crucified condemned man we see mostly now. You can sort of see why too, if you wish to attract followers to Christianity then emphasis on being arrested and crucified might not be the best way to go about it.
@@lw3646 What would the weather and population numbers have to do with it?
@@lw3646 Decimating? Do you mean depicting?
I don't think they shy-ed away from the fact that Jesus was arrested and crucified. In fact, they put extra emphasis on it because that's one of the main things of the faith.
It makes perfect sense for there to be more than one interpretation - beard or no beard - because he wasn't always the same age... He had different haircuts... And then eventually people settled on one look or style. Pretty amazing. This video affirms a lot!
There was also a depiction of him in Russia. Depicting him with dark skin and whitish hair. Pretty interesting
@@UzitheSaintWell the White hair may have been derived from his depiction in Revelation.
@@withlessAsbestos yeah and it’s weird that it’s never depicted but then the image that is the most popular is the one of Cesare Borgia which looks nothing like the biblical description
was a tradition where Jewish people wore no beard until a certain age or got married? Thus he probably wore a beard near the end of his life. Come of age at 28 or 30: I am not clear on the tradition of when the hair on the face.
Thus both types of images would exist.
if I had to guess I think it comes from evolving beauty standards for men. It was probably more popular for younger men to have short hair and be clean shaven during the times of Jesus' early depictions but over time beards become more popular and then we see depictions of Jesus with a beard. However idk if these were the real beauty standards of the time I'm just guessing.
So Jesus looked like a Jewish rabbi. Never could have guessed.
Jesus was a Middle-Eastern Jew so just look at a modern native Israeli/Palestinian male and you get a rough idea of how he probably looked like. Jewish Rabbi makes sense.
@@modmaker7617 It was sarcasm. Everyone knows Jesus was a Jewish rabbi.
@@modmaker7617
Looking at the average modern American male wouldn't give you an idea of what the average male in America looked like 2000 years ago
@@bootbredda2724 well that's because the average American 2000 years ago was a completely different race then what you consider an American now ? Invasion , murder and all
@@137Trimethylpurine26dione
So you haven't read the history of that happening over there in Israel?
Something interesting my Latin teacher told me in high school was that during the later years of Rome, when Christianity was gaining popularity throughout what remained of the Empire, they started Jesus in ways which reflect the common Roman citizen, as they believed the people would be more accepting of him if he looked just like they did.
Y'ever see the images of japanese, or chinese, ethiopian jesus, every culture projects to relate, it's human nature.
@@SpahGaming of course, I'm not trying to say otherwise.
His image is in the Bible. He was black.
@@techoperatives2232 lol Jesus was Jewish
@@techoperatives2232 We waz godz n shieet
The Graffiti at the end blew me away. Jesus is Lord ✝️
Yes it’s crazy how the ones mocking ultimately were fruitful in the case for Christ ❤️
Jesus is God.
@@MrISkatergod? Are you crazy? He was prophet And messiah
@@master13fox he claimed to be God.
@@MrISkater where? Show me? He never said he is god. Roman Empire and Paul said that 60 years later
I think one thing to remember is that Jesus is often portrayed in the likeness of the artist. So, you can have Jesus with blue eyes and golden hair, Black Jesus, Asian Jesus, etc. It wouldn't surprise me to see Jesus depicted as Roman.
Your either catholic or never read the Bible how sad
The "black Jesus" reminds of that family guy episode, lol.
Perhaps that is all he was. Just a picture made up by some bored artist. He never existed.
@@threestars2164 yeah because that's just how it works. Muhammed wasn't real either, the arabs just randomly decided "Hey lets make this cool religion and conquer shit lol" and they of course all agreed to this because people tend to be super agreeable.
I'm not Arab but have always imagined that he looked like a tan Arab with dark curly hair and his mother like a nomadic Palestinian looking girl.
There was a home excavated from the volcanic ash in Pompeii that had a cross painted on the wall over the bed so people knew the biblical story of Jesus in 79AD and worshipped Him.
Can you cite your source? I've read this from other commenters but no one has been able to steer me to where this was actually found by archaeologists.
@@druidriley3163 im joining in on this thread
I was curious & read a couple articles about archeological presence of Christianity in Herculaneum and Pompeii (Cook, 2018; Longenecker, 2019) and the closest I can find to your claim is discussion about graffito inside a Pompeian residence (no reference to a bed) that may or may not include a specifically Christian cross - it may not even depict a cross at all, according to Cook, but Longenecker is pretty convinced it a Christian cross. Visible presence of Christians in Herculaneum and Pompeii seems to be a pretty heated dispute between early Christian scholars from what I'm able to discern as an outsider at 4 am
@@irenes4939 Thanks for the info. The only thing I found wasn't recently but from years ago, also disputed, about cross-shaped damage to a wall. It appears to be above an altar or table of some sort. Some claim a cross was there and it was wrenched off the wall when the occupants left the city. Others claim it was just a shelf that was attached to the wall and at some point was ripped off in the pyroclastic blast.
Was the cross at that time a faith symbol for Christians? I thought it was a fish
Every culture portrayed Jesus as representing their own people. That way the people can relate to the religion and accept it easier as being "their story". This is a common thing with any historical event, which depending on who writes about it, you get a differing perspective or even a different story altogether. This is basic human psychology and is found around the world by all the examples of the different "Jesus" paintings.
But for 15th century not many outside Europe followed Jesus. So he continued to become plain white guy.
@@blackinpublic4193 true, there was Ethiopia though!
True, studied depictions of religious figures for years, all over the world, and there is a traditional of depicting such people according to local appearance. It is not unusual, nor racist, as some suggest.
@@blackinpublic4193 Jesus is depicted in many ways, and the tendency to show him as a white man comes from the origin countries of missionaries, be they Catholic or other Western source. Slotracer is correct. If you want to guess at his real appearance, just look at Levantine men today, and he was never noted as looking remarkable, so wouldn't have been Romanesque pale, or Asian or sub-saharan African or Indian, even though many depictions show him as these ethnotypes, and others too.
I concur with SlotRacer Guy's take on representations of Jesus that reflect enculturation. The reason for that is Jesus did not have a national mission. His theological mission was amenable to any local culture.
Curiously, the apparitions of Mary so common among Catholics for the last couple of hundred years also reflect local enculturation: when appearing in France, Mary is white, French features, blond and blue eyed; when appearing in Mexico, she is brown, Native American features, dark hair and brown-eyed, etc.
As a child in Germany, I was told by my parents that every artist depicts Jesus as a man of noble birth would be depicted in his country - as a Chinese, Bantu, Eskimo or, as we in Germany, as an German. Nobody knows what Jesus really looked like. Nor is it necessary, because only with the heart can you see your Saviour and Redeemer Jesus Christ.
I mean. Like all these depictions show him as white. Considering Buddah had blue eyes, Ghengis Khan had red hair, and many Iranians early on were blonde... Whites have graced the planet with our dominance for a very long time. King David was likely white as well as the israelites in general. Everyone else is actually just brown washing Him, despite all descriptions agreeing on His whiteness. And the word ruddy is used for David, which means he can blush, which is a white feature. Is it really so bad? Whites have blessed the world 1000 times over with our discoveries, perhaps they're actually just racists against us.
@@Mathetesofscriptureman what kind of drugs are you taking? Lemme have some
@elindio9884 why is being white the only view everyone hates? No one cares if he is brown, black, middle eastern, whatever. But if anyone is white it's a problem. Ya'll are racists and the world always has been against white people
that's because he's not real lol
@@eckee Jesus of Nazareth most likely existed even if you dont believe he was the son of god. Given where Nazareth is the man was probably middle eastern.
I never knew there were images of Jesus that far back in history. The mastery of anatomy drawing is impressive
@eliohayek8955 making imagery or looking at artworks is simply a cultural discourse and not necessarily worship or bowing down about idolatry . The ten commandments does not state we are forbidden to communicate artistically about holy subjects, but says to not worship images
People back then had way more skill and knowledge than we usually think
Idk. I’ve never seen anyone with the head of a donkey. Couldn’t have known that much.
@eliohayek8955❤️🔥, but they won’t see it. the ignorance of the image is what prevents them from meeting Jesus and the wool hair .
@@THEOMNIVERSEPERSPECTIVE🙄
Differences in beards and hairs between Byzantine and Roman depictions should tell us that the depictions were made according to different cultural styles of both empires' art. Roman elites were beardless, short haired but Byzantine elites were the opposite, long beards. They should have drawn him as an elite, so actually depictions don't give us necessary information about how he looked like in real.
Without a photo, or portrait, or even a description by one who had seen him, any picture of him, a hundred years after his death, is a personal one.
It was the same empire but the representations where a few hundred years apart and the beard actually comes from western mythology because Jesus needed to replace Jupiter.
@@TV-oj8uh yes and also the beard was signification of strength in the east. Latin and Greek empires were socially distinguished at this. You can't see beardless Byzantine emperor and you can't see any facial hair of Latin emperors, in old depictions.
@@mehmetalierfidan6433 But you can... Nero,Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, Lucius Verus, Marcus Aurelius, Pertinax, Didius Julianus, Seprimus Severus, Caracalla, Macrinus, Gordian I and II, Pupienus, Balbinus, Philip the arab, Treboniasus Gallus, Volusianus, Aemilian, Gallienus, Claudius Ghoticus, Quintillus, Aurelian, Tacitus, Florianus, Probus, Carus, Carinus and Numerian. So dont tell me the western emperors didnt have beards.
@@TV-oj8uh sorry, my mistake, my knowledge is limited, and I wasn't pointing you while saying you, just for example. Actually I wasn't disagreeing with your first comment, i meant to emphasize it. Jesus was depicted with beard in the east. It gives clues to make a meaning of cultural roots and also mythology as u said.
A silly question about the second picture discussed- how do we know that’s a picture of Jesus and not of an apostle, or some other random person?
This is just a guess, but it may be the position in the church: if it's on the front wall, it's centre stage; a position usually reserved for Jesus to this day.
It seems like a bit of a stretch to see a face there to begin with.
"Yeshua wuz here"
@@d.c.8828 Josh and the boys drawing more graffiti smh my head...
@@jean-lucwalker3690 Thank you for the response. That makes sense.
I love ancient history. Everyone was an aspiring artist but the architecture is unmatched even today!
Some dude 2000 years ago: I kinda feel bad for making fun of Alex now that he saw the graffiti.
His wife: Dont worry, I'm sure people will forget all about it.
Now: And so here is the oldest depiction of Jesus!
A non believer who lept saying CE
Instead of A.D. who saves the insult depiction of the founder of our faith for last to poke fun at our beliefs, calling christ a donkey! Wow..... hate to be this guy on the day judgement.
Why have a non believer show depictions of christ using athiests terms for the calendar? Then show grafitti that makes fun of christ showing him as a donkey?do you really Want my commet GOD hater? Go take a bike.ride in traffic with joe biden!
Dont worry, i ll save a place in those catacombs for the two of ya!
It’s funny how “Jesus” gets whiter and whiter
@@adriangudino3412 Read history dude.
@@OkOk-sx7tx Noah’s sons are believed to have started this (Gen 10 I believe) regardless the color, Acts 10:34 is a GREAT Scripture to live by instead of individual colored glasses🌹
@@adriangudino3412 Spirituality, which Yeshua preached about used to be just a way of life before these man made religion came to be, and I can state whatever opinion I want, I speak truth and i don’t care if you don’t like it!
I wish we had cameras and pictures (or even video) from that time period. Or actually any time period in ancient history. It would be so interesting to see what people actually looked like. And how they actually lived.
The Vatican has a machine that can see
Archeologists can piece this together but obviously not with Jesus because there are no remains.
The Shroud of Turin is a 2,000 year old photograph of the entire crucified body of Jesus Christ.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 because he’s still alive 😄
To me, it seems God reveals WHEN HE wants to. So, for Jesus, he lived at a time when cameras didn't exist. On purpose!!!
The whole "duality" depicted in the first image is very common in early Byzantine iconography. This icon is not the only example of this.
People's faces are generally not symmetrical anyway, models get closer to symmetry. I did an art project where we took a full size face only page from a magazine, and cut right down the center. Paste it on white paper and draw the other half of the face. When you do that you're mirroring what you see, so the result usually doesn't look like the person. I did it twice for the other half of the face, so each face I ended up with were different from each other and neither looked like the original
@@recoveringsoul755 I was going to say the same thing. You can actually do that with any face .
I wish you give us more examples
@@alpash2 there is one I can think of, it's the Christ Pantocrator mosaic at Hagia Sophia. There it is much less prevalent but still noticeable.
yeah weird exercise ... master painting.
Well done so clear and slow enough to absorb. The best video on what Jesus might look like so far
you know hes wrong and we know what jesus looked like this video is extremely misleading
Jesus is not black. I refuse to believe that.
@@DonnaChamberson ignore all and tell me why you like blue cars
Every artistic rendering of Jesus that we have come across here is most often from the artist's imagination, that mainly has it's origins and background of his or her's particular region, beliefs and culture.
I honestly think it is intentional so that "every tribe" can more closely relate to Jesus. Jesus is much bigger than what ethic group he was born into.
@@vi-r22 I very much agree with you
@@vi-r22 It is intentional as to cover up the genetic ancestry of Jesus. The most important detail is given at the beginning of this video: The true earliest images of Jesus were destroyed by the Roman Empire. As you can see at the end of the countdown, the "afro" is slowly and deliberately converted into a halo.
....so Jesus did exist...
There is one that was supposedly drawn based on the impressions from the shroud they supposedly found from the tomb Jesus was buried in. I think it is the image this video showed briefly towards the beginning....called the "anthropological reconstruction". It shows Jesus' face as wide, his nose wide, and curly hair. I have a feeling it comes close except I do believe Jesus skin may have been a little darker.....just a hunch.
the first picture shown ( St. Catherine's monastery ) actually gave me goosebumps, both from the realization of the mirrored image and from how well it was drawn
The most famous Voronet monastery in Romania actually have the real depiction of Jesus Christ, his Angels, King David and the BLACK hand of The Most High God. It also shows a certain race of people who have been ruling and destroying the planet earth with their world wars going into slavery with chains on judgement day. Isiah 14:2
[Revelation1:13-15] According to the Bible..
Gave me the the creeps. Something is not quite right with it. Especially the eye on the right. Also the color scheme was altered from the original. The hands are not in the same color group that would have matched the face/neck. Along with the extreme darkness used for the robe, I think the head/neck is a paint over. (Not at all uncommon in early times when supplies were limited). I truly would love to see new technology used on it to see if there were previous layers.
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Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
I have actually been to St Catherine's. Twice in fact, although I've only been in the library once, and that was back in 1969. We were told they have an unimaginable collection of ancient works, all off limits to all but a select group of the monks themselves. Your two illustrations are spectacular, and the dual portrait of Jesus obviously precedes DaVinci's Mona Lisa by a thousand years!
I think a valid interpretation of the “wand” is that it was meant to be a staff, like Moses. Jesus is often compared to Moses and it would not be surprising for art to depict him with a staff, like Moses is depicted to have used to perform miracles by God’s power
I dunno, these early depictions seem more urban than products of 'wandering nomadic folk' or even rural people. I think it is reasonable to assume a staff would mean little to the urban Greek or Roman Christian of the 3rd Century, whereas a magic wand might have been just the thing. I guess both theories seem plausible to me.
You think wrong
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Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
I would agree completely.
Good point, also because Jesus and his disciples walked from village to village and even long distances like from Samaria to Jerusalem, which was how all but the very rich traveled. Most such travelers used walking sticks, and many rural people were shepherds who carried staffs. The majority of the population was rural not urban. So everyone could relate to a walking stick.
I’m not a religious person by any means but this was really really really cool to see thank you so much
if i had a time machine i’d 100% make someone paint an accurate portrait of him for everyone to see years later. how special that he have art from so long ago
They may have and they might have been destroyed during iconoclasm. It's hard to wrap your head around what might have been destroyed. Even documents supporting icons may have been destroyed. At least the Sinai image was in the desert and was left untouched.
if you search up jesus face reconstruction, you'll find an image that may have been close to what he historically looked like, no one has any remains of jesus so theres no concrete proof his face looks like that, but scientists used archeological evidence of other galilean semites of his era, unless we have a time machine we will never rly know what jesus looked like but his face reconstruction might give a historically accurate perspective on how he probably did look
They did, but they were of Julius Caesar! Look up F. Carrota's Gospel of Caesar...its a slam dunk to explain why he looks Roman in some of the earliest art of Jesus. Been learning a lot about Roman times during Caesar's reign...many parallels with our own current politics. Yikes.
Pretty sure he'd take your machine away lol
You would be able to take a selfie w him
The image at 4:00. On the left he is at peace and his hands are embracing his heart space. On the right he is holding religious books, these heavy books full of wisdom. The lesson seems to be to feel it in your heart rather than hold on to it literally.
No.😆😆I mean why does every religious person say they believe in the scriptures but they never take the scriptures literal or at face value? They always have to create their own imaginary idea of what they think the scriptures MIGHT mean.
@@fucgoogle4607 I can think of two main reasons why. One that it's understood that the scriptures we have are an incomplete account that have been passed through many years, hands, and many translations (UsefulCharts actually has a few good videos on this). And due to the age of these texts, some parts will be more or less relevant to modern sensibilities. Religious texts are ancient, and follow many traditions we have discontinued: one of which is the value placed on metaphor, symbolism, and parables to get a point across, rather than accurately relaying "objective" facts, so the entire Bible is difficult to discern historical fact from metaphor. So different interpretations are inevitable but that doesnt undermine the value of the texts, you just need to understand the context.
Two that religion is inherently a spiritual experience - a relationship with the unknown; the point is not to follow scripture as a one-to-one instruction manual but to use it to develop your relationship with whatever deity you follow. Faith and spirituality comes first, scripture is used to aid spirituality. Several passages in the Bible instruct its readers to do this as well; it places an emphasis on pondering scripture for yourself. Proverbs 15:14, 2 Timothy 3:16, for example. Anyway, very fascinating video. (Edited for clarity)
@@mileshale8034 Excellent dissertation my friend !...
It represents God's Mercy and Wrath
@@mileshale8034 very well said
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed. John 20:29
And Hosea 4:6 Says People perish for the lack of knowledge........And that's exactly whats being displayed here...But let me help you ..KJV 1619..REV 1:4......The real image of Yahusha (Jesus)...This is the meaning of the truth setting you free....
@@torrancebanks7612 It's a growing trend that people prefer to dwell in lies rather than accepting the truth which is presented in the Bible.
Amen!
@@alfredallen3350 this is the arrogance that so many people are tired of. The Bible is but one piece of the puzzle, written and manipulated by man over thousands of years.
For some stubborn and intelligent persons who He loves and selects, He will narrow their ways till they have to believe in Him. Otherwise, they have no other way out.
What's amazing are the stories being depicted, the fact that almost 300 years after Jesus's birth someone heard the story in perfect detail and drew a picture of it and the story of the woman touching his garment, its also amazing that those very stories have further survived another 1800 years and are still found word for word in our bibles. Nothing was "lost in translation", like they always try to say.
The names of the Gospel writers were added in the second century. Your book contains contradictions and errors, and the texts are also manipulated and inserted into your book.
The evidence is in your hands, search before it is too late
I feel the same way. The 'lost in translation' lie kept me away for so long 💔
Of course some of it was lost in translation. This happens all the time unfortunately. Why be so scared of admitting this?
@@bigburritolover Which parts ?
@@thekeepers15 Many terms can be ambiguous or have no exact 1:1 equivalents, so translators over the centuries had to pick which meanings they would pick. Translations are essentially paraphrasing
Thank you, sincerely, for your time, thought, and informed goodwill shared in this curation. It suggests so many levels of (re)consideration without being dogmatic or pushing a partisan narrative. Bless you and yours, Sir.
Reminds me of when i was a little girl and i tried to explain that we don't know what any biblical person looked like, the little girls next door thought i was crazy. After all our church was filled with statues.
I agree Susan. Appearance wasn't the main item, otherwise we would have more references to appearance in the scriptures
king david and esau's appearance are described
that's probably why islam and judaism were so against depictions
@@Ricardo242-y2l the Bible should have taken the time to warn against iconography :P
@@MafuHardy I guess but there aren't many physical descriptions. Only if necessary to tell the story. For example, Esau was a hairy and rough looking man. That description was placed in the scriptures to make a distinction between he and his brother.
The drawing from the catacombs is depicting my favorite story of Christ healing someone, the woman who touched his garment. It’s also one of my favorite hymns: Touch The Hem Of His Garment
She's been menstruating for years and wasn't Jewish. The passage says that when she touched his rove he felt his power go out of him (for a moment). This is again magic or making him seem like he has supernatural healing powers. People then, (and now) go to Christianity because
1. They want to live forever (see the image of Lazarus being raised)
2. They sought someone who could heal them. In theology I made up a story about this unknown woman and pictured her as a rape survivor with a psychosomatic condition whereby she keeps menstruating. This was a big heretical to some of my Christian classmates but they could see that this story could be put into a modern context for mental and emotional healing.
Very similar to cultural beliefs. That you could 'pick up' someone's blessing or good luck simply by touching them, their hair or their clothes. Famous story of the woman Valeria in the 1st century bce, who plucked some threads from the toga of the Roman dictator Sulla, and he felt her touch his toga, and turned. She explained she wanted to pick up some of his good luck (Sulla was famous for it). He was charmed and later married her.
Type Moses online and discover that there is no evidence for Exodus and Moses. What's up with that?
Veronica. I love the part when Jesus said "who touched me"? What he did then was amazing.
The image at 2:50 seems clearly to have been relied upon by the Shroud. The hair, eyes, the broken nose and the "v" between the nose are all consistent with the Shroud. So too is the flowing hair on His left side. I'm almost convinced that the Shrould had been seen by this artist.
No critical thinking skills, eh?
Why would you admit such a thing about yourself before all of this fine people?@@martinkent333
Are you referring to the Shroud of Turin? That's a really interesting item, it's inconclusive to me exactly whether it could be authentic or not.
@@lw3646 It's even "inconclusive" to the man who wrote the book "Verdict on the Shroud" by Gary Habermas. Somedays he's convinced it's the burial cloth of Jesus, and on other days he believes there is about an 80% probability. I personally believe it is because I can't imagine how 3D data could have been transferred to a linen sheet by means of dehydration of the outermost fibrils back in the 12th or 13th century by an artist.
@@lw3646 Carbon-dated to 1300, Rube.......................
It's important to note that the early, Eastern Roman depictions show him as a Judean man, wearing a Tallith over his tunic. The Tallith was a square robe with fringes or tasskes, that all Judeans wore and had two dark stripes on the men's Tallith and a notched right angle design on the corners of the woman's Tallith. Actual fragments of 2nd Temple era Talliths have been found in archeological digs in Israel.
Today, the large Tallith is worn mainly on Shabbat during prayers by men. It must have at least two fringes, as required in the Torah. It stopped being the traditional over robe of Judeans as they adopted the garments of the nations that they lived among, after the expulsion by Rome from Judea
He did mention this.
Thanks for your comment. Though Christian, many of us do not know much abour traditional Jewish attire.
@delmariecrandall9229
Until the Middle Ages, all Judeans wore a Talit as their over garment. Then it was decided by the leading Rabbi's, through correspondence, that wearing the local garb was acceptable. So most men will wear a large Talit in Synagogue or during communal prayer, and many observant Jews wear a "little Talit" under their shirts, with the four knotted fringes showing. Women were allowed to not wear a Talit anymore.
Nicely done. You put a LOT of time and energy and devotion into this presentation. Thank you!!!
There is actually a lot of missing information and some faulty facts.
In the end jesus was depicted in the way people at the time wanted him to look like. He looks roman to the romans, he may look asian to asians, some black communities portray him as black as well. Saying jesus was exclusively of one single race may be accurate, but misses the point of the connection different cultures have with him.
Somewhere i read that he was depicted with a beard because that way reminded people of the ancient greek philosophers. Making him look wise as a result.
So yeah, unless we get a portrait from the time he was alive one can only speculate.
Sorry. There is no such thing as an Asian Jesus.
Sorry again. In India...nobody really knows Jesus.
@@marlonestrada5825 There are many depictions of an Asian Jesus. There's even one in one of the hallways in my Catholic School
@@fpsgod3028 Not in my Catholic School. What was depicted there was a Cardinal Pretending to be Jesus. It turned out to be an image of Mao Zedong. I mean, Jesus was never a Communist, right?
To me the most accurate depiction will always be the reconstructed face taken from the Turin shroud. I feel something in my heart whenever I see it
The shroud which was first recorded as existing in 1354 in France (that's over 1000 years after Jesus's death for those not paying attention) and was later denounced as a forgery by the bishop of Troyes, Pierre d’Arcis, in 1389... That shroud? Man you Christians really need to do some research sometimes. Sigh
If people once likened the depiction of Jesus carrying a lamb around his neck to those of Hermes/Mercury (12:54), then the image likely served a double purpose: Jesus as shepherd and Jesus as messenger.
Jesus as cook.
@@oldbatwit5102 haha good one
Like so much of the Jesus myth, they are 'remixing' things that already existed within 'religion' to strengthen the case of his divinity
4:09 On the left: Young Jesus walking earth and doing his wonders with words and hands; right: Matured Jesus, holding the New Testament in his hands. Amazing artwork.
Jesus would never have carried a 'new testament" because it was only written after he was murdered by the Romans. Jesus was a religious Jew and died as such. He had no knowledge of Christianity.
@@Lagolop He started Christianity the moment He said “follow me”! Christianity is just following Christ and believing in His truth
@@BraedenMartin Jesus would roll over in his grave if he heard you say that. Jesus was a Jew, a religious Jew. He was born a Jew to JEWISH parents, was circumcised as all Jewish baby boys are. He died as a Jew, murdered by Romans who nailed him to a cross. They did that to many other Jews of his time as well.
Jesus did not start Christianity, what he did was to create yet another sect of Judaism. Just as there are several sects of Judaism today.
@@Lagolop Jesus wouldn’t be rolling over in His grave because He is not in His grave.
However, I think where you and I disagree is how we define Christianity. I don’t define it as a religion. I define it as a relationship. Yes, Jesus was Jewish. The Bible is very clear of that. However, I believe the New Testament is fulfillment of many of the Old Testament’s prophecy’s.
I believe that Jesus is the way and the truth.
Jesus was Jewish, and certainly read the Jewish Bible (the Old Testament). I’m not disagreeing with you. But He did infact accomplish the mission God send Him here to do. And thus, Christianity. A relationship.
More likely it represents Jesus before and after the so called resurrection.
Very well done. I especially like the little sidebar that made it easy to track the paintings through time. Thanks for your work.
Kmkm
Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
04:53
Short curly hair allows for curlier curls.
Over the years, curly hair that is long and unwashed will be heavier weighing down the curls, to the point of wavy to straight rather than ones original natural curls. The hair, then begins growing in volume, due to sweat/grease and sand.
Also the sun bleaches hair over the years.
So overall, he was defiantly a very nice looking man, somewhat short hair, a little beard, and the most loved and caring person ever
You forgot the son of god and messiah.
@@vilegoat1401 I mean regardless if he was really gods child or not
It's a truism of religious history that humans create gods like themselves. These paintings show societies changing Jesus from a shepherd all the way into, in the dictatorial Byzantine empire, Christ Pantocrator, the stern emperor of all. Our conversation shows this kind of change too, doesn't it? In this secular age, War Kid, you imagine a secular Jesus, "regardless" of whether he just happened to be the Son of God. An Oxford-educated Victorian Christian would have been shocked by your indifference to the greatest issue that a human had to decide, before Judgement Day.
Jesus was described as plain looking, because in contrast to the various gods created by man, the one, true God’s son, in His earthly form, did not want to have the appearance of superiority or be perceived to promote the idea of vanity as purity or holiness. He also had no need to show His beauty and strength, because if He did, the people at the time might have cast Him off as just another Demi-God, Roman puppet, magician, warrior, prophet, etc., which would have defeated the purpose of Him subjecting Himself to the human experience.
Besides unlike any other man-made god, He came to serve and save us from our sins, not punish us for them.
But, this is not to imply that Jesus was in any way deformed by sin in His earthly birth, because His word is clear that he was perfect in every way (actions, words and physical appearance); this is in-line with the Old Testament as the Israelites would sacrifice the perfect lamb to God as an act of worship and obedience.
Jesus knew He was the fulfillment of prophecy and would replace thousands of years of sacrifices as the final, ever-lasting, perfect sacrifice (as a symbol of obedience to His father, which is our Heavenly Father) to absolve everyone that has ever existed or will exist, for all time, of their sins against God.
@@daufderheide9352 soooo you agree or disagree
I LOVED that last bonus one!
So much personallity is shown and it's such a refreshing thing to see such a unskilled artist (Probably wasn't even an artists to begin with) poking fun at someone!
Reminds me of a drawing you'd see on some parent's refrigerator from their child.
Amazing video and I hope you will do more of these things. Maybe show more murals and icons and other religious top 10s?
Alexamenos fidelis.
Many often forget that the people of history were just like us, simply in different environments. Like I’m 100% sure during the Roman era people did a variation of memes, like giving Caligula a horsehead and sharing it with my homie Darius on a peice of bark
That was such an interesting piece, graffiti and ball busting has always been a human trait
Reminds me of restroom stall graffiti
Who'd guess that back then they had refrigerators to put their kid's drawings on. ;-)
BwaHaHaHa!
Check out the Ethiopian Bible. It's the oldest surviving bible which includes the Apocrapha. In it I believe there are paintings of Jesus. He is darker skinned.
It's all hogwash. Jesus never looked like that am pretty sure. Such depictions are just to make him look so good. By contrast Satan is deposited as black.
Tell sticksnstones please!
No Jesus was not darker skinned like Ethiopians. Ethiopians are black. The are the descendants of Ham. Jesus came from the line of Shem. Jesus would have been of middle eastern descent. Ham's skin turned black when Noah cursed him for maternal incest. Canaan is the son of that sexual act that Ham committed with Noah's wife. Watch out for afrocentrics.
Jesus was not an Ethiopean. He was closer to a modern Jordanian, who sometimes have ginger hair, pale skin, and freckles.
I agree. In Revelation 1:15 tells that His feet like fine brass. Brass is more like a tan skin tone. In fact He lives in the middle east who definitely has dark/tan skin tone.
This was super interesting, I quite liked it !
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With the pictures of Jesus, as you gave the "graffiti" at the end a mention, you probably should've said it's estimated to be from the 1st to 3rd centuries with most of the guesstimates being cast for the 2nd and 3rd.
He also left out the response written to the insult
@@arealbigboss what was the response?
@@Eugensson Something along the lines of "Alexamenos the Faithful", which would be sort of turning the insult around I think.
@@arealbigboss Alexamenos fidelis.
@@arealbigboss I hope you aint lying
Isaiah 53:2
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Written about 700 years before Jesus came in the flesh.
Oldest copy being found in the Dead Sea Scrolls dated to be around 150-200 years before Jesus' birth.
@Gutslinger
Written by a prophet who got the inspiration from God. Only people of faith understand this, and only people of faith will see Him again with nail piercings on His hands and a spear wound on His side. Remember what doubting Thomas said once he Him.
@SunshineRoses333 I can't recall that anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this:
"Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross)
Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says:
"But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8
Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.
@SunshineRoses333 I can't recall that anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this:
"Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross)
Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says:
"But I am a w*rm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8
Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.
@SunshineRoses333 I don't know if anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this:
"Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross)
Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says:
"But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoo out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8
Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.
This was extremely interesting. It'd be awesome if you talked about early depictions of other biblical figures.
Yes it would!!! ☺️🕊
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Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
In the report of Pontius Pilate to Caesar Augustus he describes Jesus as light haired and light skin compared to the many blackbeards and tawny complextion. (The Archko Volume)
He never mention about Jesus
@@Andre_Tarigan WRONG
That is interesting.
It reminds me of that David was described as having a “ruddy” complexion” in scripture
First, Augustus had been dead for over a decade by the time of Jesus' death. If anything, Pilatus would have sent that report to Tiberius... the ruling emperor at the time of Jesus' crucifixion. And even then, Pilarus would have sent it to Sejanus, Tiberius' deputy in Rome at that time. It is said that it was Sejanus who appointed Pontius Pilatus in Judea.
Second, there is no mention anywhere that Pilatus sent any reports to Rome about the crucifixion of Jesus. Even less likely that a depiction or description of Jesus was attached.
The supposed letter from Pontius Pilate is a hoax, and The Library of Congress has issued a statement declaring that it has no such document. There aren't any legitimate eyewitness descriptions of Christ (but given where he was from, he probably wasn't white). The Archko Volume also has no legitimacy among any historians. Mahan (who wrote it) was even summoned before church authorities on charges of falsehood and plagiarism after writing it. But nice try
When I was a little girl there was a local church that kept a large copy of the Sallman picture just inside it's front doors. It was always lit up so if you drove by at night you could see it. I liked looking at it then. My parents also told me a story that I don't remember, perhaps I was four, and my sister three, when we were in the picnic area of a national park. They said a young man wearing a long white shirt, with beard and long hair, came walking through. I'm told we got excited and said it was Jesus, while they shushed us. That would make a good story, kids recognizing him but not the adults.
That's called indoctrination all churches do it and they used to kill people that didn't agree with them!
Ha ha this picture is fake Jesus was black
@@adamajagne3487 He was not black, or at least not what we Americans would call black/African American. If you wanted to do a picture of him I'd use as a model any one of the Semitic, olive complected folks that live in the Mid East now.
I used to be afraid of/shy of men with beards because I thought they all looked like Jesus, lol.
@Adama Jagne, if you're at all interested in such things, there was what is called a Eucharistic miracle in Mexico in the early 2000s (to make a long teaching short, Catholics believe that the bread and wine at their mass (services) really turns into the body and blood of Jesus. Occasionally, this change becomes visible and stuff starts bleeding). They had a scientist test the blood without telling him where it came from, and it came back as human, AB positive...and with no discernable ethnicity. That last bit is completely unprecedented. Even when someone is "mixed", scientists are able to tell the different places or origin in the DNA. Not this time.
So...He "belongs" to all of us.
the alexamenos graffiti also shows the cross as being a capital T shape which is probably more accurate than the lower case t shape. it's a lot simpler to cut into one timber and nail it to the top of a post than it is to make matching cutouts.
I had heard about that in the past. But, then they would need a place to fasten the sign that said, "king of the Jews," which was said to be above his head. Unless the sign had its own pole attached to the T shaped cross.
I'd never thought of this before, but it makes a lot of sense.
@@markbcrich I imagine when someone is crucified their heads would actually end up being belong the intersection of the "T" so there would be a space for a sign.
@@sawahtb i think this is most likely. it's a terrible way to die. as the victim becomes exhausted from holding themselves up the position causes restricted breathing. hypoxia or dehydration kills them over the course of a few days and the victim ends up slumped.
there's also the idea that the nails went through the palms but this is not likely because the body weight would rip the hands free between the fingers which counteracts the whole dying goal (modern people have been crucified for various reasons and it seems to be a problem with it). the nails would go through the wrists which would hold better. the alexamenos art neither suggests this nor suggests against it though.
@@sawahtb Yes. That is possible. But, early Christian fathers tend to describe it at a (t) shape. E.g.: Irenaeus "the very form of the cross, too, has five extremities, two in length, two in breadth, and one in the middle, on which [last] the person rests who is fixed by the nails". Justin Martyr: "That [passover] lamb which was commanded to be wholly roasted was a symbol of the suffering of the cross which Christ would undergo. For the lamb, which is roasted, is roasted and dressed up in the form of the cross. For one spit is transfixed right through from the lower parts up to the head, and one across the back, to which are attached the legs of the lamb." "No one could say or prove that the horns of a unicorn represent any other fact or figure than the type which portrays the cross. For the one beam is placed upright, from which the highest extremity is raised up into a horn, when the other beam is fitted on to it, and the ends appear on both sides as horns joined on to the one horn. And the part which is fixed in the centre, on which are suspended those who are crucified, also stands out like a horn; and it also looks like a horn conjoined and fixed with the other horns". Tertullian: "the very structure of our body suggests the essential and primal outline of a cross. The head ascends to the peak, the spine stands upright, the shoulders traverse the spine. If you position a man with his arms outstretched, you shall have created the image of a cross. Dionysius of Halicarnassus : " The men ordered to lead the slave to his punishment, having stretched out both his arms and fastened them to a piece of wood which extended across his breast and shoulders as far as his wrists, followed him, tearing his naked body with whips. " Seneca the Younger: "“I see crosses there, not just of one kind but made in many different ways: some have their victims with head down to the ground; some impale their private parts; others stretch out their arms on the gibbet”
To the great, he appeared as great. To the small, as small. To the angels, he appeared as an angel. To the humans, as a human. Some looked at him and thought they saw themselves. He appeared as a single manifestation of all of them.
Oh please that’s after his resurrection
HE is the face of all
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Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
Thank you so much for your comment reminding well-taught followers of Yashua (God's Savior son in Hebrew) that what Jesus looked like, though an interesting study, does not compare to what He meant to be taken as. x
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The more & more that I see pictures of “Jesus”, the more I am convinced He was drawn to look like everyone during that specific time..perhaps the artist saw a bit of themselves in their depiction of Him…I wouldn’t believe at all that’s a coincidence..🧐🧐🤔👍🏽👍🏽😇
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Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
Revelation 1/14/15 his head and hair were white like wool as white as snow and his eyes like a flame of fire and his feet like fine brass as burn in a furnace according to the bible christ had wooly hair red eyes and skin as burn in a furnace burn something in a furnace see what color it turn so he couldn't look like everyone at that time because everyone at that time or this time doesn't look alike
@@jaycubb9663 if you believe in man made religion you do
@@jaycubb9663 Jesus came in THE IMAGE Of man
@@jaycubb9663 Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand.
Thank you Matt!! That was awesome. I saw the actual original of the last one you talked about, the donkey one, in a museum on the Capitoline Hill Rome. This was a great episode.
Of course in Rome. They hate Jesus and loves to mock him in any way they can.
I like how the face he Gave Alex Amenos resembles a Chad Face. Looks like his troll backfired 2000 years later.
BRAVO!!!
It's his Egyptian form 😆
The wand seems to be a reference to Manumissio vindicta, a way to free an slave in ancient Rome. It was a simulated trial before a magistrate, where the owner touched the head of the slave with a tree wand and the slave immediatelly became a free person. I love this image of Jesus from the roman understanding that seems suggest that Jesus frees Lazzarus from the slavery of the death. Thinking as a roman, Death was a minor god too (Pluton/ Hades).
2:00 I have this Icon in my house. One of my favorite depictions of Jesus, it's beautiful.
Isn't it ironic how some so called Christians worship a Jew enough to have an image of him in their homes, yet they hate his people. Just sayin'. Thank God for the Jewish state of Israel. There will never be another holocaust set upon the Jewish people.
That's the one I grew up with, too.
I’ve both drawn and painted this one. It’s also a favorite of mine
It is possible that Jesus was sometimes bearded and sometimes clean shaven. Perhaps living outdoors didn't always lend itself to shaving, but being hosted in a house by a well off follower may have enabled him to spruce up a bit.
It actually seems likely that as a Jewish man (who was possibly a rabbi) he would have had a beard, and that already in those earliest depictions he was being reimagined as more typically Roman
Jesus might have been a rabbi, but his profession was that of his legal father, Joseph. He was a carpenter, and would work both inside and outside but not living outdoors like a shepard.
@@havareriksen1004 I meant that while in the 3 years of his ministry he wouldn't have had a fixed abode
When I was in Jerusalem several year's ago, I visited Ciaphase's House where Jesus was imprisoned before his crucifixion. On the rock wall of the cell he was held in, I could see a depiction of what looked like Christ nealing in prayer, and he was bearded.
I think maybe no one else has ever seen this impression on the wall before me, because if so I would have thought it'd been highlighted for the tourist to look at, and part of the common knowledge regarding the sight.
My eyes could see the image plainly. I took a picture of the image on the cell wall, and to this day, when I look at the photo I took, I can still make out the image on the wall as clear as that day that I first saw it in person.
Can you show this image ?
Do you have Facebook because i wanna see the photo or can you post like a video on yt with the image
I’d love to see the photo you took.
😯😯😯😯 wanna see
You have to be joking, right? Millions of tourists and hundreds of thousands of scholars have gone through that site (not sight) and you're the only one who has ever seen it? In general it pays to reconsider things from another perspective... please try to do that
In 17th century Dutch paintings of Jeruzalem, the city is depicted like a Dutch city, sometimes even with ships in a harbour. Liberty of the artist :-)
I remember reading some (possibly not true) written accounts of Jesus by the Romans. Whatever he looked like it seemed that his physical looks were nothing impressive but his facial expressions seemed to have an impact on people.
It makes sense that his physical looks were nothing impressive. Otherwise there would have been no need for Judas to point out who Jesus was, he could have told "the one who is a head taller than all the others", or something like that.
@@praevasc4299 "Which one is Jesus? Oh, you'll know. Dazzling smile, rugged good looks. Absolute unit of a man."
@@slothrocket8540 Jesus is just Gigachad from the ancient times...
Isaiah prophesied of Jesus some eight centuries beforehand that "he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him" (Isaiah 53 : 2).
@@praevasc4299 this kind of story is similar to gautam buddha. I didn't clearly remember but in that story , when king meet group of monk including buddha , he can't differentiate other monk with buddha.
Wont matter what depiction we have on Earth. As soon as we see Jesus with our own eyes, we will know him.
200,000 raped altar boys found out the hard way that Jesus is a myth. Ditto Jehovah God. They still can't sleep at night, Dude. How educated are you?
beautiful!
I fear many will not know Him when they see him. Just like He was not recognized the first time. Many will claim to be faithful, but on the day of judgement fall short.
Huh? Lol. He's dead bro...
How you gonna do that
This is so interesting! I wish I could go back in time and meet him .
Soon, we will all meet him again we need to be ready ♥️🙏
@Tree Amen, we need to repent and admit we need a savior, we can’t do anything by our works only by him our LORD AND GOD JESUS CHRIST as he is the ONLY way. May HE bless you all brothers and sisters 🙏
this video proves that depictions of jesus changed over time in accordance with their historical context. It's just a story with pictures.
@@scambammer6102 it could be . But I guess we'll never know .
Perhaps he's a real man , who's story got mixed up a few times .
They didn't have any internet back then lol 😆 😂 so I'm guessing that it all travelled by mouth
You can encounter him in the Eucharist
I like the photorealistic image because it looks true to the region and, it’s a gentle happy face❤
Does not matter what he looked like. Carry out his message!
Exactly. People who are small-minded only care about things like that. You're too stuck on skin pigmentation to grass the actual message
Good.
Yes. Be like him. Don't go around telling everyone to be like Leviticus.
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I must say I found your presentation to be very informative. I enjoy learning new ( to me) things about the man who lived so long ago and influenced the world we live in today.
That would be Paul.
did he though ?
@@Steve-yx1xj Yes, he is. In fact Jesus only did 3 years of ministry and left the biggest legacy in the World. Not even the greatest leader can leave a big legacy like what Jesus did. Can you imagine tha! ONLY 3 YEARS.
I accidentally played this video without any intention of watching it but decided to watch it any way and found it to be very fascinating and interesting!!!!!
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Very interesting! What struck me the most was that #2 is what is used to depict the Good Shepherd that is taught by the Catechesis of the Good Shepherd.
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Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
4:11 Who would win: Jesej or Susus?
*Accidental among us reference detected*
Assuming Susus is the one on the right, definitely Susus. Bro is not playing around
I hope one day they find even older images. Would be so fascinating to know!
Yeah, one from 500 BC preferably ...
@@sophiaherschel567that's before Christ brother
@sophiaherschel567 so what is your point?
Even if other stories were told 10,000 or 100,000 bc of One Who would have 40 lashes or would be crucified for our sins or even if they made their own martyrs, this does not then discredit that the One Who came and was crucified 2,000 years ago was the True One prophesied about, the True Son of God. His Coming has been known since the Beginning of time.
@@forhim9861 Really? Where you there in the beginning of time?
@@midiprog2266what is this even supposed to mean
In the first picture of our Lord there is also letters in his halo. Christ will be the only one with letters in his halo. Meaning “He who is” also often interpreted as “The Existing One”
What a wonderful video study on the subject! I love this. Thank you for posting all this.
Thanks! That was most interesing.
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That is good to know. Thank you. I shall get a family tree poster for my next ancient mythology book.
You should do a review for the marketing site.
As you can see from the ancient frescos and sarcophagus the "wand", stick appears only when there is a resurrection, not every time that a miracle happened... That is because is a symbol of the Aarons/ Moses stick which gave life and behind it is the cross of Jesus. That was a teaching to the catechumens so it got in their art as well.
The fact alone that this man was and is more popular than any social media influencer in todays society should make you bow down...
except for the fact that nobody wrote about him until a couple of centuries later. You'd think someone would have been recording this as it happened.
@@dandiedinmont8964 that’s a lie, do sum research
The Beatles were more popular than Jesus with young people in the 1960s. Should we bow down to them? Does anyone with half a brain actually care about social media influencers?
@@dandiedinmont8964 thats a lie my friend lol
@@dandiedinmont8964 lmao John was written around 80 A.D. That's not couple of centuries-old. Also most of historical figures have their sources couple of hundreds after their death, the fact that Jesus had a source so close to his death is more of evidence that he existed than otherwise.
That's fantastic, I'd heard and seen quite a few of the images shared. But the Explanation of the Dual Nature of Christ's Godhood and Humanity hadn't crossed my mind. I'd seen the image in some churches and wondered why no artist had corrected it.
I wonder if the angrier face is to represent Humanity of God. I feel many modern people would imagine God being the angry one, while the ancients may have seen humanity being the angry one. But alas, I guess I got some homework. Blessings!
the Divine side holds the Gospel and the sterness represents judgement of thr Word. His human nature is the side that blesses humanity and has mercy and compassion
My Mom and Dad had that 1940s painting of Jesus hanging in the living room since the 1960s. I think Mom still has that picture today.
Growing up it seemed everyone had a picture of Jesus in their house and that was certainly a popular one.
My grandma had one of Jesus knocking on the door. I inherited it after she died.
Pontius Pilot gave a great written description of Jesus in a letter to Rome.
The Pilate letters are later forgeries, no historian considers them genuine (we have no writings by Pilate of any kind), the Letter to Tiberius is Renaissance & the Archko Volume is 19thC
Fascinating as always, thank you. There seems to be a general assumption that Jesus maintained a constant appearance throughout his adult life, but I guess it's possible that he changed his hair, beard and style of dress from time to time.
I don't think thats the right conclusion. It is more likely that the few remaining depictions where just "depictions" . No one knew what he looked like so they drew him as they imagined. Romans depicted Jesus as a roman etc.
none of the artists had ever seen Jesus, they are not portraits. but imaginary.
I was getting ready to ask why you didn't include Alexamenos's donkey-headed Jesus. I'm glad you decided to include it as a bonus. Great video. Thanks!
It’s proof positive that those bathroom stall artists have been around for a LONG time
Really reinforces Jesus as historical fact
It establishes belief in Jesus as an hystorical fact. There is no primary evidence for an historical Jesus. Just secondary accounts. Unlike John the Baptist who was being written about while he was still alive.
@@Concreteowlregardless, the last roman inscription doesn’t insinuate Jesus not being real. Many historians (who are atheist) agree that Jesus was a real figure. It would be pretty wild, through all the cultural shifts surrounding this person, to believe he wasn’t real and this is all made up. Especially since the Roman’s never discredited his existence.
@@rinzlr3554 "Especially since the Roman’s never discredited his existence."
Beyond that, Roman historians are the primary testimony of his existence.
Thanks for mentioning the dual-nature aspect. Dante and Jung both focused on this.
Supposed! It’s a fallacy made up by xtians
Unfortunately he says “supposedly” when in fact is is reality….Jesus was and is both man and God.
@@anthonylowder6687 he was a man! A peasant labourer nor a carpenter. He’d laugh at Christianity and people like you calling him God, pagans!!
@@anthonylowder6687 Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics chamber degrees will guide you
I'm gaining so much insight from this video. Your expertise in [topic] is truly remarkable!
No critical thinking skills, eh?
Which sections are you concerned about? I'm just analyzing and self-improving before discussing these with the others, indeed!
I love seeing these. However, we must not get away from the reality of Jesus, His beautiful message of good news! 🙏
Thank you for your efforts in putting this together. Very interesting. I love history.
I find history much more interesting now that I can remember so much of it.
I watched the PBS special From Jesus to Christ, and there was one early depiction of Jesus which I didn't see you display, though I can't recall exactly where it was taken from. Thank you for the edification, the images are quite enlightening in showing the various artistic styles from various areas and eras. ✨😊
Was He Black?
, probably not..... Jesus was Jewish and no mention in the Gospels that either Mary or Jesus was dark skinned, black or darker skinned than the Romans or Greeks or other Jews at the time
@@chordsofgratitude2073 Original Romans and Greeks were not Semites but were Japhetites. The gospels say Mary and Joseph were from the tribe of Judah whom are no longer Jews.
@@AverageAmerican , and the lion of Judah is also a nickname for Jesus.., indicates that Christians are exiled from true Judaism
@@chordsofgratitude2073 I believe you're right. What a profound observation! I don't think Yahweh is the god everybody thinks. He actually likes to mix it up a bit! Which is pretty apparent if He plans to reunite the Hebrew Sheeple...
In the last one, the bonus, I think it's supposed to say Alexamenos respects (the) God IX (Jesus Christ - Because mind you this is wayyy too early for the ICXC to be accepted as the standard abbreviation for Jesus), so it is most definitely mocking Jesus, and I think he wasn't trolling someone, it was his own name, he was just mocking the religion as a whole probably quoting someone who told him "You're supposed to respect God" and then he was like "Oh yeah sure let me demonstrate you how much I do"