Did Moses Exist?
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- The other two videos in #ProjectHistoricity are:
Did Jesus Exist?
• Did Jesus Exist?
Did Muhammad Exist?
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Narration: Matt Baker
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Audio Editing: Jack Rackam
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Voice of Sargon of Akkad: Hikma History
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Intro Animation: Syawish Rehman
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Intro music: "Lord of the Land" by Kevin MacLeod
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So, technically, Moses is the first man to download files from the cloud using a tablet.
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Dude 🤣 🤣 🤣
What can I say to you? 😃
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They had dang fast internet too, took them seconds.
Poor bloke at the beginning. Imagine being king then passing away just for your body to be discovered hundreds of years later under a parking lot.
Boss the clairvoyant told me that in the future there going to build a parking lot where you want to be buried. So hell no bury me somewhere else.
TF dude, you can't refer to Richard III as "poor bloke"... he is one of the most (in)famous kings in English history and one of Shakespeare's most famous plays is named after him
@@adlibitum2139 I don't know anything about this king and of the play.
I don't think he cares
@@mrbeep8096 lolz. Well don't spread your ignorance too widely, some might make the right conclusions:-))
I like that everyone is open minded here, they can discussed about Religious topic without being harsh on each other. Thanks man
Yes, Moses did exist and my channel proves it
Ye, because religious people are violent
@@allahblessrussiaandchinaan3719 i don't think anybody asked actually 🤷♂️
Yep and also not disrespected to each others religion we all love our religion
@@andrewfrankovic6821 what
This was well done! I studied the Bible as literature at university back in the day. We touched on several of these themes. Looking forward to the other portions.
@Tommy Yes, Moses did exist. No, God is not a "she."
@Tommy you should stick to original scripture and stop listening to man made religion.
@Tommy fascinating that she chose you, I hope she’s there when you stand before Jesus to confirm her identity to you.
@Tommy what about half of the world population who is Buddhist and Hindu, who don't believe anything related to Bible and Quran. Why do they still survive in large numbers and are prosperous also?
Why she had to hide her gender? If the so called followers of Abraham's religion are so good, why can't they accept the female supreme goddess, while most of the pagans don't have any problem accepting a female goddess?
It’s hard to prove the existence of anyone in ancient history, goes to show we really don’t know even a quarter of what we think we know.
This channel: "Nowadays, history falls very clearly into the category of non-fiction..."
History channel: A L I E N S 👽
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Correct and scientifically proven to reduce wrinkles.
There ar no aliens its all a big elusion
History Channel wants to earn money. If telling the truth helps them earning money, they will so so. If speculating helps them...
2 Minutes in and i just learned that Richard the third untill recently rested underneath a parking lot. History is sometimes so close.
It used to be the church courtyard. Historians were more surprised that he was intact not he was there at all...
According to my sources, which I read and understood completely and correctly, Richard's body was right underneath an R sign (for reserved parking).
@@CasualSunGod42 and his name is Richard so that's a weird coincidence
We were there when they discovered it. Just a block away.
The lecture by Turi King on the Royal Institute's YT page is a great watch if you're interested in how they found him and then verified that the skeleton found was Richard III
Kind of unrelated, but Matt you should do a collaboration on the various flood narratives of the Middle East. It would be cool to see how they all match up and what differs and see if we can even pinpoint when they were written. Otherwise than that great video!
Ooh, this would be super cool!
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Yeah..nice. also in Hindu mythology it's mentioned as Manu and his flood. Also in Gilgamesh epic of ancient Babylonia
Irving Finkel has done some great research on this as well, if you search for some of his videos. The original ark was actually a giant circular basket!
@@sagaramskp I used to work with an Orthodox Jew and a Hindu. They would tell each other about their respective histories. Some of the history of both groups is similar.
I think what you also have to take into account is that, as Northrop Frye wrote, every historical text is not just "about" the time it depicts, but just as much "about" the time in which it was written, and the Bible would benefit a lot from being viewed in the same light. I think this is actually where the "truth" of the Bible lies, not necessarily in the question as to whether a person named Moses actually existed. I have heard somewhere that most of the Pentateuch (Five Books of Moses) was written at the time that the Israelites were in diaspora in Babylon; they had thus a vested interest in depicting a past for themselves which affirmed them as a united people, as well as their claim for the Holy Land. They lived as strangers in a strange land and they wanted out of it, they wanted an exodus, and what better way to affirm this than by depicting another exodus in their past, namely the one from Egypt, not to mention that the Bible as a whole is full of Exoduses as it is. And it is only conceivable that they would be inspired by the legends from the country they were living in just at that time, and adapting them to their own needs. The Five Books of Moses were in all likelihood written down by priests or scholars, and they would have had access to such material.
Except the Jews never lived in Egypt.
@@MrChiangchingyes that's the point. It's fiction with a purpose
@DonHavjuan No it's presented as fact.
This is an old minimalist claim. Personally I somewhat doubt that the Pentateuch was composed during the exile. Added to? Yes. Composed? No.
The authors of scripture, Pentateuch included, had a solid grasp of the early Iron Age, so much so that the Exodus is anachronistically conducted in an Iron Age setting, rather than a Bronze Age setting. (The Peluset/Philistines avoided by the Israelites on fleeing Egypt settled in Gaza in 1175BC.) We have fragments of the book of Numbers, the Ketef Hinnom scrolls, which date to around 600BC, showing that it was already written down and venerated in written form prior to the exile.
I don't see it referenced as often, but I think the parity of the Samaritan Pentateuch is also excellent evidence, as is the claim of the Samaritans to be the Israelites leftover by the Assyrians. The genetics and linguistics check out, meaning we have a schism in Judaism over the correct holy place - Gerizim near Samaria or Temple Mount in Jerusalem - which had to occur by 800BC. Apart from Gerizim, the Samaritan and Jewish Pentateuch largely agree. I'd be very surprised if the Pentateuch did not exist by the time of this schism, which occurred somewhere between the 12th and 9th centuries BC.
As to the Exodus, the Biblical chronology cannot work due to the Egyptian New Kingdom. Egypt dominated Canaan up until the 12th century BC, indisputably so through the reign of Ramses the Great. There can be little to no doubt that Israelites were enslaved by Egypt, and that Egypt was the traditional oppressor of their ancestors. We don't need to invent a basis for the Exodus 700 years later.
@@SkyKing-e4u The overwhelming majority of New Kingdom papyrii did not survive. Egyptians also liked to airbrush defeats. I agree with you, I think, but we have positive evidence against the possibility of this event which is much stronger than the absence of evidence.
"You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were once strangers in the land of Egypt." Now THAT'S a lesson to revisit in these modern times. Thank you for sharing this video with us.
Yup, talking about Israel and Palestine 😢 the irony
Actually not just that if you actually read the laws from God they are actually really progressive especially at that time, like God forbid sex slaves, which is common practice back then to have them, also he talks about Asylums, where if someone killed another person by accident and they had no evil in their heart aka if they committed manslaughter, he is to go to another city where he shall not be harmed at all and the elders shall investigate and when they conclude it was manslaughter he is allowed to go back and his neighbors shall not judge him
@@livingtoaster1358 there is also the whole thing about hire if you have a hebrew slave then you have to give the choice to leave after their first seven years, if they say yes to leaving, they are exiled from the town, if they say no, then you keep them forever. sooo progressive right!
@@maple22moose44 that's not true, first if they decide to leave after 7 years, they're not exiled nowhere does it say that at all, second they can choose to stay with the master after 7 years, if and only if they love the master, third again in those days at least they gave the option to the slave to go free, also slave in the bible most likely meant indentured servitude, as often they referred to slaves as "neighbors who work to pay off something" or to get out of poverty, and it is voluntary, which again, is pretty progressive at the time, so yes, I stand by the statement it's progressive
@@livingtoaster1358 those rules are for Hebrew slaves. Slaves from other places were property
“Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.”
This colab idea was a match made in heaven.... literally
Hmmmm... 🤨 I see what you did there...
Is it going to reset the universe
In the lauh al mahfuz
@@hwgwrestling9203 will the resetting of the universe reset my life as well?
Mohammed is buried in Madinah. This was ignored in the beginning of the video.
"Applying the Historical Method" would make a great series!
Great idea.
Yes please!
In Sweden (and I believe the germans does it to) just call it "källkritik" (source critizism) and apply it not just to historical sources, but to news papers, tv, social media and information in general.
So the concept is definitly somehting worth expanding on in another video.
@@superm530 I'm unsure of the term on english, but I believe that would be called a historical perspecive or meta-theory.
And those there are many of.
*A* historical method (as opposed to *the* Historical Method, which frankly is a confusing name) on the other hand is simply a method of studying history, like text-analysis, discourse-analysis, statistical analysis and others, which are also used more than in the field of history.
@@ThoriberoCaroli does that mean there are no fake news in Sweden? no history revisionism, no propaganda? Sounds like Utopia to me.
Imagine there were a bunch of sources at the library of Alexandria that got destroyed.
Moses talking to God through bushes is literally his training arc
We're gonna need a montage....
Moses was,talking to Jesus face to face. OT Then he appeared with Jesus on the mount of transfiguration NT or Moses died speaking to God face to face. Think batman think . He spoke to the resurrected Jesus Christ who transported him into the future. Out side of our time is.........it is.. .He is the past present and future. Someone is going to get this. No one can see the face of God and live.....lol so whom is he talking to face to face? Jesus .All things was made through him and for him. ,I want in on this game of thrones...I want to be a part of this. He was. And he is and will always be.
@@Bemark100......... a figment of Christianity's fiction narrative.
There, I fixed the latter part of your comment. You're welcome.
@@proculusjulius7035 I get you . Until he comes around us , we are blind . I understand where you are. I pray that the father of lights shine upon you. His face turns towards you. It’s a blessing from me to you.
As the sages said, the miracle of the Burning Bush was not that the bush was undamaged by the fire, but that Moses watched it long enough to notice.
It’s awesome to see such a passionate community of academic religious historians on TH-cam, thanks for the really interesting videos! These videos have gotten me really interested in a topic I had no prior interest in! Wish my discipline of earth science had a similar thing to get a wider community interested
Which kind of earth science do you particularly look at? If you are more into geology then finding and cracking open rocks would definitely be a good start. Or looking at genetic makeup in the earth
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Not an entire channel, but I know PBS' Eons will usually mention things of an earth science-y bent in their videos! It's great stuff.
You should check out atlas pro, he occasionally does videos on subjects in that category.
@@DreaOnzagle haha just came from there! Was watching their "The Pandemic That Lasted 15 millon Years" episode. Sorry, just got excited when you mentioned them!(:
This video turned out so good! Love your incredibly thourough explanation of the historical method.
I'm very glad to have been part of this collboration. Thank you!
Excellent colab idea by you three. It’s always iconic when a TH-cam community does joint projects like this.
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Moses is probably like Joseph Smith. He existed and just convinced some followers he saw something. It snowballed from there. All religions start this way.
This channel is more educative than the entire education system in my country
A video asking if a major figure in certain religions was real or just mythical? I can imagine why they'd want to avoid the topic.
@@letsburn00 very very true my friend
Are you talking about the U.S. educational system?😅
Ohh! Are you from India ?
@@letsburn00 pretty sure they were referring to the whole channel but ok
the story of Moses gave us The Prince of Egypt and that's all that counts
That film was amazing
Also, the Charlton Heston version of The Ten Commandments, which I grew up watching every year. So it really rocked my world as an adult when I realized on my own that the story of Moses and the exodus was more legend than reality.
@@cajunboy67 That's crazy to me. Where are you from?
+ the amazing soundtrack
Oh damn I remember that movie as well, i was forced to watch it in my christian day school
Finding Richard the third under a parking lot is one of the coolest archeological discoveries ever.
He said, "My kingdom for a horse." So I guess it's appropriate he was laid close to the horse's successor.
@@Emacee1701the real King Richard never said that, don't forget that Shakespeare was never an historian (he never claimed to be actually) so people should not think that the plays he's done about real people is true history.
Leicester is a city, Dude. As in Leicester City Football Club
@@Mute_Nostril_Agony I replied to another person, you idiot. I am very aware that Richard was found under a car park in Leicester. I may of been 7, but I still remember the news. I was replying to the comment that said a Shakespeare quote about Richard. The person's @ is even in my comment. Your comprehension skills are shocking, mate. Learn to read, darling.
How did they even come to the conclusion that it was him?
I thought I’d bring this up, since it wasn’t mentioned in the video and it’s one of my favorite fun little theories. It doesn’t comment at all on whether Moses was a real guy, but if you wanted to say that the basic plot points of the exodus story are based on real events, I think it’s the best way to try to date them.
1.) the battle of Kadesh is nowhere in the Torah. The single biggest battle in human history to that point, between Egypt and the Hittites, which turned them from rivals into trading partners, and there’s not a word. So if you want to have people faffing about in Sinai missing important events, that’s when you’d have them do it. It’s inconceivable that anybody living in Egypt wouldn’t have noticed such a transformative event, and since the battle physically occurred IN Canaan, they would have noticed it there as well.
2.) that’s also roughly when the transition of power between the Hyksos rulers and the 18th dynasty occurred. So if you wanted to have a guy be in tight with the Pharaoh as a youth, leave, and return as an adult to find a new pharaoh who hates him, that’s ALSO a good point to set that.
Isn't there at least one instance where the Israelites are actually mentioned in Egypt? Kadesh, that was Ramesses II., right? If I remember it right, the Stele of Mernepthah (the son and successor of Ramesses II.) mentions about that Pharaoh being involved in a war with a group of people called the "Hapiru", which some historians have interpreted as a reference to the Hebrews? But this would mean that even the name of that nation would be Egyptian in origin...
The Hyksos angle might actually be right, because the story of the Israelites in Egypt begins with Joseph, who brought his family (brothers, representing the tribes of Israel) to Egypt because of the famine, and it ends with Moses, from the tribe of Levi, leading the Israelites out. While the maker of the video links the Exodus to the end of the Hyksos period, I also happen to remember once seeing a feature which linked the story of Joseph, who rose from a slave to Vizier to the Pharaoh, to the Hyksos as well. So the grain of truth might lie there somewhere... But perhaps crafting the story of the Exodus and the character of Moses also reflects a more general historical truth - the fact that Egypt and its religion and legends were an important influence on the religion that later became Judaism, and on the text that mater became the Bible. Throughout the Bible are strewn references that Egypt was an important influence:
1. Abraham and Sarah flee there and the Pharaoh covets Sarah, with the conflict that ensues, and leads to Abraham and Sarah fleeing from there
2. Sarah's handmaid Hagar, whom Sarah gives to Abraham as a surrogate mother and who later gives birth to Ishmael, is an Egyptian (and I think I did hear somewhere that Hagar may even have been an Egyptian princess), and God tells her she will become mother of a great nation through her son just as Sarah will through hers
3. Joseph is sold into slavery in Egypt, and rises to be the second most powerful man in the country, and he marries in Egyptian woman, Asenath, the daughter of a priest
4. Israelites living in bondage in Egypt when a Pharaoh comes to power who "does not know anything about Joseph" (which might indicate a new dynasty and major social changes within the state), Pharaoh refusing to let the children of Israel go, the Ten Plagues, the Exodus, and isn't there even a tradition (not in the Bible, but in another source) hat even Moses' foster mother the Egyptian Princess goes with them and later marries an Israelite (which is why she is named Bithiah, "Daughter of God", the name Batya still being a popular Jewish female name today)
5. Even in the New Testament, Mary and Joseph go with Jesus to Egypt to escape persecution in their homeland
All of this points to Egypt being the second most important influence on the stories we are told in the Bible - next to the Sumerian culture perhaps, because a lot of what's in the Bible is actually gleaned from Sumerian legends in the widest sense, being given a distinct Jewish twist. This is probably due to this being the area in which the people who later became the Israelites predominantly lived. And a lot of what's in the Bible can be interpreted as the efforts of those people to define themselves as a distinct religious and cultural identity against the peoples and ethnicities surrounding them - predominantly by stating that all of these peoples prayed to the "wrong" Gods mainly for the reasons that they still prayed to multiple deities instead of just to one God.
Your timeline isn't quite accurate to my understanding. The Battle of Kadesh occurs well after most people believe Exodus occurred (half a century at least). The transition of the Hyksos to the 18th dynasty occurs several centuries before Exodus is believed to occur.
@@skylershuman7705 when are you putting it?
There was a video I saw about archeology. I seem to remember it mentioning some ancient writing. It mentioned the group of people who have been living in the wilderness for generations. It seemed to be referring to Moses and the Hebrews.
Though I can't be sure my memory is accurate, nor where I heard this from.
The Bible is extremely light on details of Egyptian chronology in general. Very few Egyptian events are mentioned--at least of the events that can be cross-referenced with other historical sources. I don't think the omission of Kadesh necessarily means anything.
If anything, your second point is more relevant, in that the Bible doesn't mention the Hyksos takeover of Egypt, either. That's arguably a much bigger event than a single inconclusive battle. But then, the Bible doesn't mention the destruction of the Hittite Empire (one of the great powers of the region) in the 12th century BCE... or any other number of events from that era.
The Bible does mention the construction of the city of "Ramses," which is probably a reference to Pi-Ramses, which existed between the 13th and 11th centuries BCE. So at least it does appear to preserve some legitimate memories from that era (at least if you accept the identification of Pi-Ramses as such).
As a historian I love the way you explain the historical method and the way you went through it throughoughly. I love this series! Also as a Muslim, I appreciate how open-minded you and other commentators are!
Yeah, the idea that "it's not archaeologically clear, but it can be true and those who believe it aren't idiots" it's quite beautiful
Do we take the warnings of the Gospel, the New Testament, seriously? The Savior warned us: “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it” (Matthew 7:13-14). The apostle Peter gave this testimony: “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). However, we have many names for Christ: Jesus, Iesus, Iesous, Yeshua, Isa, and not to mention the pronunciation “Hey-zeus.” So is the name based on God’s revelation or on the linguistics of mankind? Therefore, which one is the revealed name from Heaven? Halleluyah is universally known throughout the world, and yet few seem to know what it actually means. Hallelu, means Praise, and YAH is the name which is above every name, and this name means “I AM.” Halleluyah means “Praise YAH.” YAH means “I AM” in Hebrew. YAH is found in Strong’s Dictionary of Bible Words # 3050. Where did the name YAH originally come from? Moses asked God for His name: “Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?” And God said to Moses, (“HAYAH ASHAR HAYAH) “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM {YAH} has sent me to you.’ Moreover God said to Moses, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations’” (Exodus 3:13-15). Praise YAH, Halleluyah!
According to the prophets “YAH” is the only name of salvation for us: “Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV), and Sing to God, sing praises to His name; Extol Him who rides on the clouds, By His name Yah, and rejoice before Him” (Psalm 68:4 NKJV). “I, even I, am the Lord {YAH}, and besides Me there is no savior” (Isaiah 43:11). Christ tells us that He is YAH, when He said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM {YAH}” (John 8:58). Christ is I AM, that is YAH. Therefore the angel came to Joseph and said, “And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name YAHSHUA, for He will save His people from their sins” (Matthew 1:21). Joseph was given a command to name Him YAHSHUA!
The apostle Paul on the road to Damascus, to persecute Christians, was confronted by a bright light, and the Savior told him in Hebrew, “I am YAHSHUA...” (Acts 26:13-15). The apostle Paul heard the name which is above every name {YAH}, for he writes, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of YAHSHUA every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Messiah is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11) All languages are to know this one revealed name “YAHSHUA” from the LORD. What happens if one rejects the revealed name YAHSHUA, the one name given under heaven by which we must be saved? Answer: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:16-18). The name Jesus has only existed in its present form since the 17th century. Reject the revealed name YAHSHUA, the one name by which we must be saved, and stand before the Judgment Throne condemned according to the Gospel, the New Testament. In YAHSHUA’S Name, Amen. Many Christian religious leaders are not representing the New Testament in Spirit and Truth. They are not teaching the truth about the Savior’s true name YAHSHUA. Christ said in Matthew 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’” We must follow the revelation of the LORD! Another warning to the religious leaders: “And now, O priests, this commandment is for you. If you will not hear, and if you will not take it to heart, to give glory to My name,” Says the Lord of hosts, “I will send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart” (Malachi 2:1-2). There is only one name given under heaven by which we must be saved, behold the name of salvation, YAHSHUA! Halleluyah, Praise YAH, Praise YAHSHUA! Take it to heart!
@@stephenmarlowe3907but the narrow gate sounds like currents life it is harsh and difficult
@@amychan811 "In this life you shall have trials and tribulations... But take heart, I have overcomed the world"
I know it's difficult and a lot of Christians still use the Latin Vulgate translation of the Messiah's name (Jesus or Ieosus). But the name (Ha-Shem) of God (YHWH: often spoken as Yahweh [Yah-wey] or Yahowah [Yah-o-wuh: where Jehovah came from]). Yod-Shem-Uau/Vav-Ayin (YSUA) is the Hebrew name of the Messiah (Aramaic-accent: Yeshua, Hebrew/Jewish accent: Yahshua). The name means Yah-Saves or Yah-is Salvation (similar to Yahoshua/Joshua, Hosea/Hoshea or Yashayah/Isaiah).
I cannot condemn nor judge the people who still uses the Latin Vulgate version since I'm merely human who could be mistaken. Nor I could say that God is not forgiving (or loving) enough to see that his Creation is struggling to know that longed for His Parental Majesty [longed to go home to Him]. But I prefer the Aramaic or Hebrew version of the name because it still has the spirit of Theophoric wisdom [speaking God's name].
Note: Many titles/names had been given to God through out history.
Ha-Shem (The Name/The Presence)
Adonai (LORD)
Elohim (Maker/Creator/God)
Ein Sof (Eternity/Without End/Immortal One/Athanatos)
YHWH (Tetragrammaton: Yahweh/Yahowah[Jehovah])
Adonai Melech (Lord of Lords/Lord of Host)
Melech Ha-Olam (King of Universe)
Elohim Gibor (Almighty God/God of Armies/God of Strength)
El-Shaddai/Shaddai El-Chai (Almighty Living God)
Elohim Ha-Aretz (God of the Earth/World)
Adonai Eloheinu (LORD, our God)
Ruach Haqodesh (The Holy/Set-Apart Spirit)
There are 72 Names but I can't say it all (according to some books of Judeo-Christian history and/or records).
Allah is Arabic for God which can be based from Allahim (Elohim).
@@ralphcaluag2403 emm sounds like someone that is very devoted to religion is babbling nonsense to me again
"If we come across a text that clearly uses literary tropes that were common at the time, we need to consider whether or not the details in that text should be considered in a literal or in a figurative way." Wait... Are you telling me that Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter is fiction??
Annie Kallen There was a battle of Gettysburg so Vampire Hunter MUST be real. Which means because there is a Red Sea Moses MUST have parted it. There is a Bethlehem so........You see where this is going ? lol
This is probably hardest to find out among the three. Good luck 😂
I disagree. They are all a piece of cake.. not even close.
I wonder when the normal royal family trees will come back ?
@@o-o2399 but they are so boring compared to these...
Yeah Moses is like the oldest
@@jonathonjubb6626 wdym
Sometimes without rigourous archelogical evidence, it's difficult to ascertain whether people from that far back actually existed at all because so much written works have long since been lost or destroyed and all that is left is oral history and written accounts from centuries later. It's basically like playing a 1000 year old game of telephone, eventually what the final receiver ends up hearing will be vastly different than what was originally conveyed. It's for the same reason that Homer's existence (the author of the Illiad) has also come into question.
Who else is here before the comment section goes crazy?
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Last time i was this early, the main point was far more important than the details.
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@Heberth R. "Lie" implies deceit. The culture of that time did not expect details to be historical because they didn't care about that, so they would not have considered it a lie. Even today, we wouldn't expect every detail of certain mediums to be historically factual. For instance, even in the closest biographical films, there's no expectation that every word the actor/actress says or every piece of clothing they wear is something the historical figure actually said or wore.
@Heberth R. I'm not refuting the Bible. Just stating that not every part of the Bible is meant to be historically accurate. Literally the first two chapters of Genesis (two different accounts of creation) factually contradict each other. One states humans were created before all other animals, and the other states humans were created after all other animals. Neither is a lie because God's point was religious truth and the religious truths and meanings behind them align perfectly. The historical accuracy or lack thereof wasn't the point. God's truth extends beyond that. You can have a nuanced understanding of the Bible that doesn't deny God or deny history.
@Heberth R. I read it a few times and don't understand it, but no worries. Have a good one.
We know baby Sargon's river adventure because it's written in A Neo-Assyrian text from the 7th century BC.
There were 3 Sargons in the history: 1 Akkad, 1 old assyrian, 1 neo assyrian (722-705 BC)
All them bible characters are taken from history
@@kamitecnative3286 all these Abrahimic books were possibly based on some actual source but the fiction and mythologies around it were added later.
And there is also one Sargon that is about some girl with reptile tail I think it is from arknight 😂
@@kamitecnative3286 Islam says all people had prophets and the storiws are not new
To me just the fact that almost all stories in the bible are just repurposed older stories completely discredits the whole thing as being literal fact. Well that and the magic and miraculous birth and coming back to life and pretty much all of it.
نبي الله موسى عليه السلام ، قصة عجيبه جدا وجميلة ذكرت في القرآن الكريم وهو (كليم الله ) النبي الذي كلم الله وسمع صوته وهو من اولى العزم من الانبياء وكان لديه من المعجزات الكثير جدا ، فلق البحر ، وارسل الجراد ، والضفادع ، والقمل ، والطمس على مال فرعون وحول الانهار الى دماء ونجاء قومه من فرعون بأمر من الله . وعندما خرجو من مصر مكث في الصحراء ٤٠ سنة لان قومة رفضو ان يقاتلو اهل كنعان حتى مات موسى ثم اتى جيل جديد من ابناء بني اسرائيل ودخلو القدس مع ( يوشع ابن نون ) . وانا مسلم وعرفت قصة نبينا موسى من القرآن الكريم .
This reminds me of the college professor who wanted to teach a course on comic books and convinced the dean by having him recount the origin stories of Moses and Superman.
As the creators of Superman were Jewish. It is said that they said themselves that Superman was given an origin likened to Moses and more Jewish ideas. The one I like most is Superman's them of Truth and justice
@@charlesurdy-barnes413 sargon of akkad had the same birth story.. Its a common theme around the world.
You must mean the invisible man with super powers who lives in a big cotton candy land in the sky.
That was Michael Uslan...he went on to become the producer of every theatrically released Batman movie.
@@charlesurdy-barnes413 Superman, as a character, comes from Nietzsche's Ubermensch. That's a theory based on the idea that Darwin was correct about the ascent of man.
Useful Charts can you do Who would be King of Romania today?
Check the Canada video and you’ll get your answer
Its pretty easy actually. Margareta, daughter of the late king, is the best candidate. Not just because she has a better claim but because she is more popular (to give you an idea of her popularity she gained the title of the most influential woman in Romania 4 times since 2016)
@@docd2295 well there is the lsat option. Nicholas, The king's grandson, has been excluded from the line of succesion. And the guy, Paul, is from a legitimate line, and also hes condemned by the court of justice.
@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot ?
Viktor Orbán would be
It's going to be a holy war in the comments.
DEUS VULT!
VOX POPULI VOX DEI
I'm a Christian, but I don't want that to happen tbh
I think people in this channel are open minded
GO GO GO FIGHT FIGHT jkjk
It’s weird that people keep arguing about if I ever existed 😂
Because Christians keep swearing that it happened word for word lol
I'm not Muslim, nor an Islamic scholar, but I'm quite sure there's enough scholarly evidence to prove Muhammad existed. He's not nearly as ancient as Jesus and Moses. He clearly falls into your second category.
😆😂😆 and said Gabriel gave him knowledge 😆😂😆😆 he ran his ass to TEHUTI school n KAMIT and learned 7 principles
@@kamitecnative3286 Please defeat Zakir
@@sianu872 ???
He probably existed, but virtually everything including Islamic sources written about him were compiled at best 150 years after he lived. Muslims believe in chains of word of mouth transmission that bridge these centuries, it is at best complicated to evaluate how reliable that might have been.
There was an explosion of stories and myths about Jesus about 150-400 years after he lived. That's basically the same timeframe for most of what we have about Mohammad. And it shows. There are a lot of "authentic" hadith that are remind me of yo mamma jokes, often gross or unjust or bizarre. And they are comparable to some bizarre gnostic stories about Jesus.
@@kamitecnative3286 Zakir Naik is a famous Indian scholar and apologetic of Islam...who has ran away from India after causing trouble there...
I remember when they found Richard IIIrd. That was mind blowing
who’s that?
@@Chynaaaaaa The guy that Shakespeare made into a hunchbacked monster to please the royalty and aristocracy of the era.
A horse, a horse!
My kingdom for a horse!
@@Chynaaaaaa He was the king that Henry VII (Henry Tudor) defeated to become king of England and begin the Tudor dynasty of English kings and queens.
His niece Elizabeth of York later married Henry VII unifying the Lancastrian and York royal bloodlines and ending the so called 'War of the Roses'.
Elizabeth of York and Henry VII were the parents of Henry VIII of England, the much more famous king known for his six wives, their various ends and the breaking of England from the Catholic church required to achieve his first divorce.
Richard III is sufficiant, you don't need "rd".
@@mnomadvfx
Look at the photo of his skeleton, that is one seriously deformed spine.
It's kewl that you brought up that all the prominent Levite names (including Moses) were Egyptian names. I learned years ago that Moses' name was, considering how close it is to the names of pharaohs Ahmose and Rameses (Hellenized version of the Egyptian name), but I hadn't realized the other Levites had Egyptian names.
I"ve also heard it proposed that if the Red Sea crossing did happen, it wasn't at the deepest or widest part tha tmost people think, but at one of the narrow arms, such as the "Sea of Reeds", which is a lot narrower, as well as closer to the Canaanite lands and modern-day Israel. Since that is all part of the same tectonic rift system as the East African Rift and even the Jordan Valley, some fringe groups speculates that there was some sort of earthquake at the time and the parting was actually caused by the withdrawing of waters in anticipation of a subsequent tsunami. It's all fun to speculate on, but then, I do write science fiction and fantasy :-) One of the fringe speculators I read about tied it to the eruption of Thera that destroyed the Minoan civilization.
Atlantis has nothing to do with Thera and you know it. The Richat Structure would be a better suggestion since it does lie outside the Strait of Gibraltar. According to legend King Atlas the son of Poseidon was King of Mauretania, and the Richat Structure lies within what was ancient Mauretania. Atlas was also the King of the Atlantean empire. The Atlas Mountains derives its name from the King called Atlas.
Wind setdown can easily explain the parting of the Red Sea. Wind setdown is a drop in water level caused by wind stress acting on the surface of a body of water for an extended period of time. As the wind blows, the water recedes from the upwind shore and exposes terrain that was formerly underwater.
Please check out "Patterns of Evidence" an award winning documentary that shows that be archeologists and "scholars" are ignoring all the evidence by looking in a different time period. Also see "Red Sea Crossing" on TH-cam.
Ahmose and Ramesis are Greek interpretations of the "KMT" names and the Greeks didn't arrive until 332 bce as conquer colonizing invaders
For instance Rameses is a misnomer his name was "Wsr Maat Ra Stp n Ra" (Harmonious Power of Ra, Chosen by Ra)
And Ahmose is actually "Iah ms" (born of the moon)
Pharaoh is another misnomer no ine was called a Pharaoh, they were called "Nwst Bity" ruler's of Upper and lower KMT
While it is plausible that some Levites may have had Egyptian names or names of Egyptian origin, the available evidence is extremely limited, and the precise naming practices of the Levites during their time in Egypt (including slavery) remain uncertain.
"And mention Moses in the Book; surely he was one of the purified, and he was a messenger, a prophet” (Quran - 19:51)
@@danbeech4241 but more real than moses 🤣🤣🤣
But he didn’t exist?
1:21 Omg i cant believe you named my city ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ.
Bro. Three videos in one? I’m truly blessed today.
How the hell do you lose the remains of a king?!
dark ages man
new king hates old king or the king likes to play hide and seek with his buried treasures. also, grave robbers.
Grave robbers
I know right? I lost my luggage, too!
@@eyeballpapercut4400 dude that was literally 1000 years after the dark ages
“You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord?”
Your videos are eye openers it gives a good respect for historians and historical science
It’s not history, it’s just anti Christian propaganda
@@vibecheck3572 how so?
Great work Matt! Educating people about Islam Christianity and Judaism without bashing people's religions and showing religious tolerance god bless you
It's extremely disrespectful to the Bible. This video is a lie. Moses freed his People just as the Bible says, and there is Archeological and Historical proof.
@@philisii weeeeeeeeeeel, not that mutch proof, there is more proof around jesus then there is of moses for instance
@Selim Sadek because you don't know where to look... Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia
@@philisii well then present evidence that follows the concensus of the experts (proper archeologists and historians). Dont just leave us hanging.
@@philisii I fully agree with you.. This video is totally lie... Please make the video after knowing the facts
Amazin video🔥 I wuold like to see another series about Induism, Buddism and Zoroastrianism 🙏🏻
An excellent presentation, complete with much research. You are able, in all your videos, to present such historical findings in a way that does not threaten anyone's particular beliefs. Well done!
The magical mythical book of superstitious ignorance, the bible is no more a historical book than Harry Potter.
Basically a book of supernatural, superstitious bullshit with fictional characters.
Where did you get your education, a "Christian" university? A school where wearing knee boots to because of all the bullshit?
"history" and "story" are actually the same word in greek: "istoría"
Interesting.
And in Spanish: historía.
And in French: histoire
Dutch: historie
English: History ;)
I was today years old when I learned the Torah is the same as the Pentateuch
"Penta" meaning "five"
@@cajunboy67 -emia meaning presence in blood
I believe what Jordan Peterson said about this is correct: The human behavior pattern revealed in the story is more true than the story’s literary truth itself.
my synogauge has a magazine-ish thing and a few years ago it had an interesting article that was about how archeology showed that exodus and the egypt slavery never happened
Very interesting to speculate on where that story came from then. It’s a huge part of Judeo-Christian mythology.
Was it based on some event? I can’t see it being pure invention.
@@TesterAnimal1 probably prisoners of war. Over time embellishments happened and Egypt was never a slave economy.
I will believe God through the centuries
If you compare the Bible Old and New testaments.
Bible Many Centuries, Many Scribes, Many Believers
With Islam .
Only one murdering man ramblings
Stealing from the Bible in the 6th century
was a later murderer Thief and rapist of 9 year old s
A violent Liar who calls on followers to kill the
Jews and Chrisrians .
you figure it out ....
Next they will try to take out israel .
But God is suppose to step in .
If he had not shortened those days ,
no flesh would be saved .
Make Haste Jesus +
@@sharonodonnell2147 haha so funny, don't the Jews use abusive words about Jesus like u did for Mohammad, u are truly ignorant. For sure you are rejecting the truth as Jews rejected jesus
@@sharonodonnell2147 This is a video with logic and reason and here you are spewing your rhetoric and prejudice. Put down your bible and look in the mirror.
As a member of the tribe of levi, i love this. As a historian and thirsty for knowledge like this, this made me consider new thoughts that maybe it was just 1 tribe or group of ppl who just went to today's israel and integrated and got their viewpoint as the major belief for the unification
How do you know which tribe you belong to? Are tribes important in Judaism? Can you marry a Jewish lady/ man out side your tribe?
Your a Levite??!!!!! So you and moses came from the same tribe!
@@tubby6007 They were kinda important in the past. As for modern Judaism not so much, as of today there are only 2 tribes left(There some talks about "lost tribes" but it looks more fiction than Moses according to this video). Tribe of Levy is tribe of priests(? not sure if it is the best word for this in English, as they differ a bit from Christian ones) and they try to preserve their line.
And yes - you can. The lady from other tribe enters the tribe of husband.
@Kingopp Santi Consider whatever you want but Jesus is not messiah under Torah, as what should have happen after messiah coming didn't happen, but even according to Bible he wouldn't be considered messiah as I don't see heaven on earth as was said. And arguments about "our sins" are not valid as according to Bible he already "paid" for all our past and future sins.
So if you really follow his teaching in life - great, as for his religious value, I will stop here...
@Kingopp Santi the problem is that I read Bible and evangelical books and it looks like you not.
On point number 4, it would have been better to include the time difference as possible reason >Moses is thousand of years earlier than Jesus and Jesus is hundreds of years earlier than Muhammad; the older it is, the less likely you will have a source other the religious one.
We have more evidence for Gaius Julius Ceasar thrn we have for a god walking on earth named Yeshuah Ben Joseph
@@TorianTammas Have you ever seen the TV show Rome? I can't read Gaius Julius Caesar without hearing the thicc praeco's voice say it; accompanied by his trademark gestures of course.
@@mrgaudy1954 Yes, I have seen Rome it is great show.
@@TorianTammas Uh, no we don't. There are far more sources with far earlier extant copies and astronomically better manuscript evidence for Jesus than any other ancient figure. It's literally not even close.
@@grantgooch5834 Have you ever heard of a Xerox machine? Are you familiar with the principle of a copy? So you think when we have a million copies of Bob is the king of the early just because we have a copy? So whoever told you that a copy if a story does it to anything but a story did lie to you.
Caesar wrote several books. we gqve coins from Gaius Juilus Ceasar, we have actually real people writing about him. We have Augustus his step son who inherited Caesars fortune.
❤ I love how you scripted and told me this information this is an incredible feats of editing and I wonder about Moses's actual abilities to understand the creation of the universe and then display that in a book that was then distributed across several cities over the course of his story.
Muhammad has tomb, his hair, his sword is available, he has descendants, his letter to Persian and Byzantine is available, a lot of old paper from his timeline, so categorizing him as C is false.
Don't worry, I'm not planning on anything bad with this comment, but I do wonder sometimes what kind of butterfly effect there'd be had I never existed... Anyway, having also noticed the other two videos in the collab, am fairly convinced the Jesus and Muhammad existed, although, what they were really like is difficulty to know, but Moses is much trickier. I suspect there was probably some kind of historical basis or inspiration at least, but it's one of the mysteries I'd really like to know. Given the progression of Moses - Jesus - Muhammad, it would be interesting to see an expanded version of this collaboration with others such as Adam and Noah. If a channel were willing, maybe an interesting question could be a discussion of whether or not there is historical existence for God? Some others could be some of the figures mentioning in the Book of Mormon: Lehi and Nephi. Maybe even going beyond the Abrahamic religions to include did Buddha and Confucius exist? As well as Laozi and Zoroaster.
Dr. Zar in the comments leaving nuggets of wisdom and questions for his students and subscribers. I love it!
@@samaccardi Thanks!
Another point, wasn't Canaan under Egyptian rule for a good part of the "Moses" time period?
Yes, yes it was.
Source: Dr. Joshua Bowen (Digital Hammurabi)
Moses is stolen
Yes see Israeli archaeologist Israel Finkelstein bok The Bible Unearthed where he says there were Egyptian garrisons in Canaan at that time.
I thought that the Egyptian occupation of Canaan was during the time of Abraham? Moses was a few centuries later
@@mechadoggy no when supposed Abraham moved into the land it was Canaan. An independent country who believed in different gods. After the Exodus Egyptian forces ruled the pant for like a hundred years.
Admittedly I haven't touched a bible since Sunday school and have only been watching youtube religeous videos for about a year, but this video seems to confirm the conclusion I have come to, that the bible (like many films) is a book based on a true story.
No archaeological evidence exists for anyone in the Old Testament. It's a book written by Bronze Age people.
Course Moses existed, his name is charlton Heston
5:53 There is no such thing as an account without bias! Bias is just perspective. Why would the third party write it down? Never for a neutral reason, because the only neutral action is the absence of action---inaction.
13:59 The name Osarseph has sounded very familiar to name Yuzarsif in Turkish. Yuzarsif is just another spelling of Yusuf (Prophet Joseph) in Turkish. Actually if you pronounce the name Yuzarsif in Turkish it is nearly the same as Ousarseph. Yuzarsif (Joseph) has became the King of Egypt and he was a monotheist too. Maybe Ouasarseph is Yuzarsif (Joseph) and not Moses?
Exactly what I was thinking. Especially when you take into account that during the time of the hyksos there was no pharaoh while Moses dealt with a pharaoh
So Joseph stages a coup in Egypt with the help of the Hyksos is then later overthrown by the Egyptians and flees with his supporters (11 tribes) perhaps some of his supporters (1 tribe) were unable to flee and taken as slaves and after a period of subjugation this smaller group is later freed/escaped/whatever and reunites with the other "tribes" who then go on to invade Caanan.
@@IceWolfLoki you have to remember that it was only Joseph and his brothers at the time so they could only make what seemed like one tribe. It reminds of another part of the Quran which talks about how joseph took one of their brothers benjamin ( though his name was not specifically stated) with him when his brothers came from Israel when their was a famine and sent the rest of them back
I love how the more you dig into Ebraism and Jewish beliefs, the more the reality and ideas behind Sionism manifest as completely detatched from them and absolutely in open negation of them. Go tell them about the moral of the story of Pesach, or "the Golden rule" by Hillel...
Good job, now show us evidence Adam and Eve existed.
This is apologetics; not science or reason.
Did Moses Exist?
"All academic information indicates that no, the Biblical Moses as presented did not exist... buuuuuuuut if you change absolutely every aspect of the story, then maybe!".
Apologists often reject accepting "soundest evidence" and resort to false equivocation of "not impossible" with "most probable" or "equally as probable as any other hypothesis".
Sadly, many incorrectly perceive such fallacious reasoning as a "mysterious form of nuanced discovery".
"All academic information" does NOT indicate that Moses didn't exist.
@@blusheep2 Yes it does.
@@Anon0nline No, it doesn't. There is a Minimalist camp(who you are talking about) and a Maximalist camp. That is the definition of academic controversy, not consensus. Not only that but the ranks of the Maximalists have been growing and though the Minimalists are still the majority they have softened their position quite a bit. Even Findlestein has had to do so.
The camp your referring to started with the Germans and it basically said that the early books of the Bible were all fictions written during the Babylonian exile to unite a defeated people and maintain an identity. To them there was no Israel at the turn of the millennium, there was no sojourn in Egypt, there was no David. Now we know David exited. We know that there were Israelites that called themselves that in 1200 BC. and though we don't have direct evidence of the sojourn we have gobs of circumstantial evidence and textual evidence for it.
You are operating off of very old news that just keeps getting passed around by those who don't bother to vet any of it.
@@blusheep2 The consensus isn't really split down the middle, though, is it? The overwhelming majority agree that there is zero evidence that he ever existed and that there is a plethora of evidence that indicates he's a mythic foundation character. Try again.
Maximalists and Minimalists these days really only differ over whether King David's Kingdom was legendary or historical. Even maximalists hold that the Exodus is a foundation myth.
Not sure why I'm being labeled an "apologist" by the OP. My conclusion was that Moses is a mythological character. I only stated that he might have existed in some form because it's generally understood that myths are formed from distant memories. This is the standard academic consensus, not an apologist position.
sargon' story knowlegde comes from *A Neo-Assyrian text from the 7th century BC* (Sargon of Akkad
- Wikipedia). And there was another Sargon who ruled between 722-705 BC in Neo-Assyrian Empire...
Kings have cities and monuments. Could I disprove you existed in 1300 B C ?
Moses destroyed Sadd el Kafara Dam and sent the pharaoh to the Nile where Moses was saved when he was a baby. That's why Ancient Egyptians records never mention about Sadd el Kafara disaster!
The dam was existed hundreds of years before Sargon of Akkad. That's why we have baby Sargon' river adventure. Moses lived before Sargon.
There is no record about the 1st dam Sadd el Kafara, either!
The Elohist source goes back to the second half of the *9th century BCE* (Elohist - Wikipedia)
The versions of the Neo-Assyrian text that were found dating back to the 7th century BC were found in a library and were likely a copy of an earlier work. Given this, it's hard to date the original work. It could have been written as early as shortly after Sargon's reign in 2000BC or it could have been written in the 7th century BC. A more recent theory suggests a ruler around that time period named himself Sargon II and may have commissioned authors to write about the Sargon in order to increase his reputation. It's not really possible to accurately date the original work, however.
@@pepecomputers5312 how do you know that was a copy of earlier work? What is the source of that knowledge? if this was just an opinion, someone can claim same thing about Moses source...
Ive heard and seen a documentary about how all the proof of Moses existance is in Saudi Arabia wich was once the land of Midian.. where yahweh was god long before Mohamed arrived and while the people of israel worshipped El Shaddai.. more commonly known as El... The problem is the Saudi Government doesnt want anyone to know...
I have been blessed from my youth, along with being exposed to scholarly studies such as your series, to be exposed to the different philosophical and theological concepts.
Your formula for sorting through complicated information is fair and refreshing. I enjoy every video of yours I've watched.
Thanks.
The Red Sea parted because Moses asserted his dominance over it by T-posing
Sure, when Moses raises his rod in Egypt and splits the read sea everybody praises him but when I do it I'm a degenerate.
Perhaps it is obvious, but it should probably be pointed out that even if all three of these folks were unequivocally shown to be historical persons, the fact of their historical existence has nothing to do with the truth of the whatever they believed or are claimed to have believed. The existence of these figures may be necessary conditions, but their existence is not sufficient to validate their claims.
If u pay attention to what those books say life itself will prove to u they are true.
@@ralphgreenwood2469 Try these on for size: Deuteronomy 17:1:7 (violates the US 1st amendment); Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (killing sons has fallen out of favor); Deuteronomy 22:5, 8, 9, 11, 13-20, 22, 23-24... Damn, it's hard to find any part of Deuteronomy that is useful in the post bronze age world (not that it was useful then). I haven't even gotten to Leviticus. If you pay attention to what these books say, you come to the inescapable conclusion that they are useless for modern life.
Indeed, which is why it surprises me that some atheists (though not sensible atheists) spend so much time trying to "prove" that Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist.
@@michaelwright2986 They are certainly lacking in knowledge.Proving the non existence of something is impossible.Anyone trying to prove to you that Jesus Christ didn't exist is either ignorant or a deceiver.
@@michaelwright2986 - It's not really a debate about Jesus' existence -- it's a debate about the credibility of the scant evidence for Jesus' existence -- for me, the evidence is insufficient, so I take the stance that either there was no such person or, if there was an actual person, that person has been completely subsumed by myth, such that nothing meaningful exists of them...
د. أشرف. بهذا الفيديو تكون قد أضفت قيمة كبيرة للبحث الذي أحاول به إثبات، من خلال إعادة قراءة متأنية لنصوص القرآن، زيف الرواية التوراتية المتداولة عن وجود بني إسرائيل وموسى بمصر. كيف يكون موسى قد تكلم بنفس اللغة مع قوم مدين باليمن فيما نشأ وعاش بمصر وبالتالي تكلم لغتها (فعليا لهجتها)؟ وأيضا كيف يكون قد خرج من مصر وتاه بسيناء، ووقف على جبل نيبو بالاردن، قبل أن يموت بين المؤابيين، كما تقول التوراة، فمتى يكون قد ذهب إلى أرض مدين وشارك بأحداث هناك، كما يرد بآيات بالقرآن؟ يا سيدي أنت تضيف قيمة مهمة، وأشكرك على جهودك. تركي العريض
TLDR for the whole series: No, Yes, Yes
Well, No, Maybe, Almost certainly.
Yes, double yes, triple yes.
No, dare not say no, yes
All Yes
Yes, yes, probably, but not as portrayed
The word for “thousand” and for “troop” are the same (eleph) and if this is taken into account the number of Jews leaving Egypt is a much more realistic 22,500 or so. See point 1. This would have been a useful number of slaves, but not enough to leave an obvious archaeological trace.
Archeologists were able to trace much smaller communities of nomads on the Sinai peninsula but found nothing from wandering Isrealites. Furthermore, more than 20000 people is not a small number and would have sufficed to fill a whole city in Egypt. But there is no archeological evidence for Israelites in Egypt either, though according to the bible, they lived there for many generations as a distinct ethnic group that should have been mentioned by the Egyptians and left traces of their daily lives, such as pottery and artifacts.
My real problem with him insisting on taking things literally is that he just got finished saying that people didn't necessarily write history in a straightforward, linear fashion. I've seen other historians look at the details given in the story & say that they had to have been written about someone who fits the profile of Moses.
Paul Ryley - It is still fictional as no one invited Israel at that time.
@@antyspi4466 You also have to remember that unusual things were happening with the Israelites which may affect the presence of evidence (Sandals not wearing out, food is a miraculous occurrence etc)
@@antyspi4466 There is archaeological evidence of Asiatic people living at Avaris who abruptly abandoned the entire city during the reign of Rameses II, so you're just wrong on that.
Also, the Israelites were an entirely mobile community who took their entire encampments with them and didn't return to occupy the same sites like nomadic people usually do so you wouldn't find sites that had a history of being occupied like you would with nomadic tribes.
Old Egyptians didn't write history of them losing battles.
And?
@@edwinlucianofrias1643 they will not say they lost a Pharaoh to Moses. They wrote only battles they won. They will not record history by saying we lost a way to the israelites.
@@ahmed_nyc But there would be other evidence. Just because the Egyptians dont write about it doesnt mean another civilisation doesnt.
@@noel_21 What other civilizations would write about it?
@@iranianintelligenceagency9337 The then inhabitants of modern day Israel (Canaan) would certainly notice 2 million refugees entering their territory.
at least the tooth fairy exists as my teeth were taken and a coin was left, and thats proof!
If Moses was a Midianite that must have made Numbers 31 rather awkward.
Lol
Matt, I agree with your conclusions. However, could the length of time it takes for Moses, Jesus and Mohammed to appear in ‘outside’ written materials have something to do with how common writing was with a general increase in literacy as time goes on?
bible version has so many flaws but islamic version is more believable
Really appreciated the collab, watched all three videos
You guys should do Abraham
Too easy. Try David and Solomon!
Abraham was most likely a Hurrian-Chaldean hybrid living in North Syria/Southeast Turkey, the first cities (Goblikli Tepe) of the world etc.
IIRC there was a Hittite army around 1700BCE roaming around Mesopotamia burning cities
@@irfannurhadisatria2540 no, definitely myth. All non religious historians agree.
If you disagree, find one..
@@jonathonjubb6626 come back to reality when you learn actual archeology and scriptures of 3rd parties
@@devaxionrl8189 You want some more?
Jesus Christ - never existed
Apostle Paul - never existed
It's all ancient stories to justify a Church/religion..
Well- done video! I appreciate your analysis and promoting the main lesson of the story of Moses
I remember i first watched this video approximately in september 2022, then my english wasn't that good, but still with subtitles i still managed to understanda lot. now, i rewatched this, and i understood all without any subtitles. thanks for great videos on interesting for me topics and inspiring me learning english, even though in that time i did it not on purpose, i just was interested in the video:D
Jesus and mohammed 100% existed. Moses is the only one open for speculation
And just in case it needs to be said, just because someone existed, that doesn’t necessarily mean everything written about them is true.
@@stuartsummers1303 i know
Quick answer for those that are just wanting facts…. No. He is a legendary, fictional character.
He did not said that word by word but yeah
That's like saying he didn't exist which wasn't the conclusion of this video 😂
Historically something along the lines of he maybe existed but there was probably big stuff going down at that time period which noone can historically attest to how it happened
Moses is the most mentioned prophet in the Qur’an, about 132 times
Pharaoh 🤎🙅🏿 👁️is brown🟫🟫🟫 .
fake moses 🧔🧔🧔🧔 is olive colour .
So how can both , 2 obviously different races , plausibly be father & son , without the Pharaoh / King 🙅🏿🙅🏿🟫noticing that "moses"👶👶🧔🧔 is a different race & therefore not a royal family member ?
Unless moses 👶👶🧔🧔covered & disguised his body in chocolate 🍫🍫🟫🟫🟫 paint for 20 years ?
One imaginary religion quoting another!
Wasnt it Jesus?
well, no idea tbh
@@wodemaya7899 Pharaoh was not real father of moses(a.) ,,,, moses(a.)was the adopted son of Pharaoh,,,,
@@sohelabbas old testament in bible claims Pharaoh 🤎🙅🏿🙅🏿 🙅🏿 👁️🤎 did NOT recognize that
" moses"👶🧔👶🧔👶🧔👶🧔
was a total stranger until Pharaoh's sister one day admitted that she had adopted "moses" when he was a baby👶👶👶👶.
Pharaoh 🤎🙅🏿 🙅🏿 🙅🏿 👁️ is chocolate brown 🍫🟫🟫in colour &
"moses" 🧔🧔🧔🧔is Arab olive
colour.
Two different races , so how would brown 🤎🤎🤎 Pharaoh 🙅🏿 not recognize olive 🧔👶🧔🧔 colour "moses" as being of a completely different race and therefore not Pharaoh' s family member .
" moses" 👶👶🧔🧔🧔 is therefore an invented and fictional character .
I believe Moses lived, and with all my heart I believe Jesus is the savior of humanity. God bless you all
why?
@@Marabarra94 because we all have broken one of the 10 commandments and Jesus was the only one to live a sinless life and became sin for us, for those who believe and give their lives to him in faith, will live forever when they pass on from this world
@@blad170AMEN!!!
What about jews then?
@@Otterpawp what about the Jews ?
There are physical remains of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh in the museum. His hair, teeth, shoes, clothes.
It is now almost universally accepted by experts in their various fields that the biblical character Moses, and for that matter Abraham, almost certainly never existed.
Yeah he’s one character who almost everyone except the most radical Jews/Xtians accept was mythological or not historically accurate at the very least. There’s simply too much evidence proving that many Jews did not exist in that time and place
@@emilybarclay8831 Yes, you're right, Emily. With all the evidence being unearthed (pun not intended) more and more doubt in the perceived authenticity of the Bible is being brought to light.
Other two are easy. This one's gonna be hard
Welcome to the Crusades. Grab a popcorn bucket
> There are many versions of Moses
No wonder, it's spelled Moses in the plural! The singular would be Mose. /jk
In Arabic it is Musaa’
Except you are getting the translation from Greek, and Ancient Greek doesn't use an s for plurals.
In Hebrew, it's a singular given name, Moshe (משה), literally, "to draw from the water".
My dad's name is Moses.
My son's name is Moses.
@@UsefulCharts are christian old testament and Jewish scripture ie.torah
100% same?
The Jewish Bible is the same as the Old Testament. But the word "Torah" only refers to the first 5 books. The Jewish term for the entire Jewish Bible (OT) is "Tanakh".
@@UsefulCharts so basically
Torah contains
Genesis,exodus,Leviticus,numbers, Deuteronomy
I've almost read some 3/8 part of old testament ie.till half of kings chapter 2
I like its stories very much
Yes.
Yes, Muhammad existed.
Very, very well done. I appreciate the detailed explanations.
When did Moses musa pbuh become a white guy 😂😂😂😂😂 . Musa pbuh moses is a black kinky hair tall very strong prophet
Actually!! They don't get tired of lying about who the real dark people of the bible truly are ? We are soooo tied of hearing the lies about who we are, enough already. they are still being deceived and still trying to deceive others 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Moses, yes. Just wrong time period
lol no. Its just a story. You have a better chance of Superman being a true story.
@@purefoldnz3070 Its the same chance, 0 chance. Please enlighten me of how Superman has any chance of being real at any given time.
@@Hellenicheavymetal In other words there's a better chance of an alien coming to earth with super powers and calling himself Superman than Moses actually being real. So even with that long shot its not 0 chance sorry lol. Happy now?
@@purefoldnz3070 nope. There is no better chance because its still zero. lol
@@Hellenicheavymetal There is I just described it. lol sorry lost this one buddy.
Moses doesn't seem to inspire rulers not to oppress all that much though. Either Neturei Karta is right that a Jew is not a Zionist, or Moses' story does not guide all Jewish people.
Timeline on Moses is completely screwed up, therefore everything stated is going to be flawed.
I agree
Having read the pentateuch recently, I personally believe Moses was real and the Exodus too. I think most if not all of it is history. The way it reads, it's like it was written for an audience that had experienced the Exodus and seen the miracles but kept falling short despite witnessing these miracles. It never harks back to some idealised point in history where the Israelites were perfectly obedient, only individuals like Abraham, Noah or Moses are obedient (and they sometimes fall short too), just my admittedly uneducated impressions.
Would love to see a similar video about the Buddha.
If history evidence is the criteria to believe anything, then we are in trouble. Dozens of Fables of Kingdoms have later been found to be real.
Half of all dinosaur species are likely not real….inferences on a single, now lost, part of a jaw bone is hardly enough evidence to assign a species.
just looking up the etymology of the name moses i read that it has both egyptian and hebrew roots to a word describing something about him. so that alone suggest he was a literary creation.
He wasn't mentioned in the Egyptian history at all and I rely on Egyptian history more than any religious history
I want you to consider the Quranic version of the story... The Quran insist that the number of Israelites leaving Egypt was very very little and almost unnoticeable... Unlike the Torah..
the verse please or hadith
@@anonymous3479 Ash Shuara 26 : 52-55
By inspiration we told Moses: "Travel by night with my servants; for surely ye shall be pursued."
Then Pharaoh sent heralds to (all) the Cities, (Saying): "These (Israelites) are but a small band,And they are raging furiously against us..."
@@anonymous3479 Yunus 10:83
But no one believed in Moses except a few youths of his people, while fearing that Pharaoh and their own chiefs might persecute them. And certainly Pharaoh was a tyrant in the land, and he was truly a transgressor.
The arabic word used in Ash Shuara is sherthima (شرذمة) which means even (left overs)
@Dan Beech doesn't make any sense at all, if it was copied from the torah, why would Mohammed try to be funny and make some changes, that will be discovered later as more accurate historicaly and archaeologically?
You have this example that i mentioned earlier regarding the number of Israelites...
Another example is in the story of Joseph, the king of Egypt was referred in the bible is Pharaoh, but in the quran, mohammed decided to use king instead, why would he do that?
The term “Pharaoh” was not used as a title for the king of Egypt until the New Kingdom (18th dynasty) starting from Ramses II.
However, Joseph’s entry into Egypt took place during 12th Dynasty of Middle Kingdom Period. The ruler during his time is supposed to be Sesostris III.
The entry of Joseph into Egypt occured before the ruler of Egypt was called Pharaoh. The use of (King) instead of (Pharaoh) by the Qur’an represents historical accuracy with the data available to us. Whereas the mentioning of Pharaoh as a ruler during the time of Joseph in Genesis 41 (and more so in the time of Abraham in Genesis 12!) is an anachronism.
In the case of Moses, most of the scholars place the events of oppression and exodus in the New Kingdom Period when Merneptah and Ramases II were the rulers. They were of course, called Pharaohs. Hence the Qur’an is correct in the usage of the word (Pharaoh) for the ruler of Egypt.
So, the mentioning of the ruler of Egypt is addressed as King (Malik, in Arabic) during the time of Joseph’s and Pharaoh (Fir’awn, in Arabic) during the time of Moses by the Qur’an is amazingly accurate.
If he was copying from the bible, i dont think that he will be able to get everything right and accurate unlike the torah. So, this man has another source of accurate information (a revelation?)
That's exactly what I say about, for example, the Lord of the Ring. It doesn't matter if Gandalf really exists: if his words are wise, you should listen to him.
likewise if the words are believed to have been uttered by Jesus himself then they have immense value..
@@kaamdev810 I also believe that it doesn't mean who pronunced the words: if they are wise, they remain wise.
@@Lell19862010 this is also the case for other religious scriptures such as in Hinduism...the authors had to make use of divine personalities to get their message through...
Still looking for that first skeleton of an orc or elf.
Gandalf has no authority - much like the rest of the fictional characters discussed in this video.
Nice to see you were true about moses A.S. And i am a muslim and i strongly believe in moses A.S ✊
so what are your conclusions ? did moses exist ?
@Straight brown Male nice observation ? Btw where you from ?
@Straight brown Male and what makes you accept the supremacy of a character from the region that is in arabia ..far far from you ? On what basis do you subscribe to this story ? You must be a bengali, son of the soil...then why are you taking a story that is not at all connected to you..?
@Straight brown Male you believe in this story. That's my answer. Just like few believe in Marvel world. Anyways take care. And remember, its a story.
@Straight brown Male but my question is still there.. ? How are you, a bengali related to that story 😀 you getting my point ...why on earth a bengali will believe in a story that is foreign to his land, culture, belief or dynamics 😀 take your time bro.
You should mention key references for us to study and verify such as the ancient stories of crossing water, etc; the footnote details should be the most crucial, book or topic names etc for quick research. Very informative, thanks.