Edelbrock VRS-4150's on a TUNNELRAM INTAKE!! If one VRS is good.. Will Two be better on CASPER F100
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- What do you do on your birthday? well I put a set of Edelbrock VRS-4150 carbs on my BOSS 429 Frankenstein called MIXED UP BOSS!
I built MIXED UP BOSS to make over 700hp on 93 octane and I had a set of 750 Holley Dominators built for me by the folks at Allstate Carburetor and they delivered the goods. Now it did take a great deal of work to make them "streetable" but you never miss what you never had.. Today does that change with the installation of the NEW Edelbrock Carbs?
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The die-cast of your truck are awesome. Didn't know anyone could do that!
I thought it was pretty cool!
Andy
I can't believe the performance of these carbs! I think once I run mine a bit I leaned the screws a quarter turn. Response and power is amazing! I'm running the 650 CFM on my 68 Ford Thunderbird with 429 Thunderjet
Good stuff!
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Besides the linkage side studs being longer, and having the nuts up higher.
What if you used bolts to hold them down? Bolt head wouldn’t stick up like a nut and stud… maybe you could get the the mixture screws better then..? 🤔
Hi Andy, just checking in for the algorithm and getting ready to watch these nice looking carbs do their thing on Mixed Up Boss!
I'd like to see a set of Holley NASCAR carbs ran for comparison...have two 390 CFM NASCAR Holley carbs from a top cup team on a tunnel ram'd stroked 347.
The work that goes into them is unbelievable... all the machining down to hand blending on the rolled radiuses.
The knife edging on the butterflies is cool to look at.
I have the data sheets and the smaller NASCAR 390 carburetor flows close to 750 CFM
That motor sounds great with that solid roller
Thanks for showing all the pros and cons of your combos. That for documenting all these different setups so we can be more informed about what we are getting into. Can't wait to see how it operates with the caspermatic transmission. I plan on using a pair of 500 CFM AVS2 Edelbrock carbs on my Edelbrock TR5 tunnel ram on my 318. I plan on trying progressive linkage and using the rear carb as the main. This places the primarys close to the center of the plenum. I want to install temp probes in each exhaust port and O2 sensors in both collectors. I should be able to dial it in quite well and see what is happening so as not to lean it out too much on a cylinder. If I have to I will run straight linkage but prefer progressive.
Them some nice mixers.
Looking forward to seeing how well these work, I plan to run them in the same configuration on a LS engine. Thank you for making content with tunnel rams and these carbs
Edlebrock :)
It’s not just a name
I can't wait for you to put your hands on them ( tune)
Casper sounded like it was very happy, didn't miss a beat. I'm impressed. I feel kinda lucky that I only need one!
Nice! That is why I use Edelbrock carbs.
Those carbs look awesome sitting on top of the Beast !
They are pretty sweet.. I can't wait to see how they do on the Dyno then the Track!
Andy
I'm thinking that you should mount a vaccum Gauge. It would be interesting.
My thoughts exactly. 👍
Andy, those annular boosters make all the difference!
The Dominators had annulars also..
Those carbs sound excellent, be curious if they make much difference, in horse power, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
That smooth roll on to power and smile says it all! Sounds healthy for out of the box settings.
So Cool!🔥 They Look Awesome On Your Engine too!
Happy Birthday! great vid, looking forward to dyno testing.
I could tell an immediate power difference. I can not brag on those enough. As I told you when I spoke with you. Mine drove better than it’s ever drove and had a incredible response
❤ 100 percent awesome I am not a racer but I do love to Goof Off on some back roads I've never had much luck with Holley carburetors they've always seemed to be so finicky I always like to set it and forget it I get from the ASV series I really wanted to see one of these in action thank you Andy for making this video⛽️🇺🇸
Those look very promising for the tunnel ram. Im going to hold off on buying carbs until you get these all tuned. But still they look to be very streetable and responsive right out of the box. Very Nice. Tunnel Ram Mafia
I think you are going to end up with a good drag and drive truck. Just add A/C. LOL
Looks like you are having a blast as always in Casper. Those carbs have Spivey magic in them!
Exactly!
Hi Andy I think 80 percent of the people that I see try to play pro stock when it comes to choosing a carburetor, my friends camaro had two 650 holley double pump with the choke plates on them with his tuning this car ran in the 7s at 170 mph in the quarter mile with a standard bore 454 , this should show people that you don't need oversized carburetors and also I can't believe how many cars I raced and beat back in the day with a holley 2 barrel that I used forever, thanks for sharing with us 👍
Casper sounds awesome brother! I think with a little tweaking you'll be able to get those just about perfect. Love that truck bro 👍
Great video as always!
Good video! I like the carbs!
They are really good out of the box.. I was skeptical but they are proving their worth
Andy
Great video Andy!
That is a good test right out of the box
Absolutely love your videos!
Cant wait to see it with the Caspermatic in it. Ive since went and watched all the videos from Cope on its development, and wow, very impressive!
Great info sounds good
Thanks Andy!
When it worked right I loved the stock Quadrajet that came with my 70' 429CJ!
Do you have a photo of that?
I would like to see the plugs just as you run it here. Vs the Doms that were on it.
Since all the carbs you've tried are 750's, I don't see a lot of power difference between them. I have a pair of 750 holley track warriors on a t-ram BBC and i'm considering trying a pair of 1050 dominators. I expect to gain some power but possibly lose driveability but since its a race car thats not a big deal. Good on you for doing this testing and i'm glad those edelbrock carbs worked out good.
ATM may be releasing 4 circuit dominators
That is impressive. WOW!!!
Very interesting! Great video as usual
Thanks Mark!
Andy
Great vidja Andy awwooo🤙🏼 I gave Franklin dude a sub for ya brother
Awesome carbs! Track tests will be fun 🤩
Butt Dyno tells me it's going to be good.. Really good! Now I just need to go cross country
Andy
Annular boosters make such a big difference in terms of drive-ability. The efficient atomization translates to much better torque production down low. Aewsome video as usual Andy. Cheers. 🍻
Im sure that there’s gonna be some tuning involved. But I told you you’d be surprised by these carbs. Specially when it comes down to tuning them.
I love rolling burnouts. 😎
Can't say I'm surprised, I can honestly say I haven't been disappointed with any Edelbrock products, that includes 11yrs of commercial engine building, everything from stock reman. to NASCAR, with high-end street race/drag race in between.
I thought the A/F ratio was a little on the fat side, as an out of box carb SHOULD be.
Like Andy said, a big overlap cam makes hitting the A/F a little 'different'.
The long overlap puts unburned fuel in the pipes, and the low man. vacuum will try to hang a standard power-valve open at idle.
Basically shows how good the Edelbrocks are - the drivability is still good on a tunnel rammed big cammed engine, for as hard as it is to hit something good right out of the box.
Sounds good looks good runs good great job wouldn t mind a hotwheels of the truck
BLUE OVAL
Nothing else matters.
Tunnel Rams matter also.😅
@@robertellison4691yes! Goes without saying!
And the best cylinder heads to ever be on a Ford of that size and model.
They should be good carbs at $800.
Cheaper than the Holley XP Carbs!
Andy
Cool!
More improvements to my favorite truck !
Andy, I was wavering but how could one?!. Will buy the same Ram as you have and the two carbs. Carbies, any day!!! Cheers, Adam.
It's Amazing how a 700 hp truck is such a gental giant awesome carbs
Gentle.
Awesome
@@JeffKopis Thanks oops
The venturis are smaller of course it will respond better !!!
Smaller than what? I thought these and the dominators are both 750 cfm.
You should try 2 shear plates under those carburetors I have it under
My 1050 dominator it really picks
The velocity and really help that
Tunnel ram all across the board.
Man, Casper seems to really like those VRS carbs. I'm thinking more and more I need need to get away from this Demon and get me one. Like you, I've lost count of the hours I've got in that dang thing and it's still not even close to right. Don't get me wrong, the Mighty Demon is a great carb, but I'm really beginning to wonder if it and my engine will ever play nice together on the street. 🏁
😢great you got them on
Hello Andy, yours and Mr. Visards videos are always so informative please keep up the great work. Off the subject for the moment, I own a few small block Chryslers some of which are magnums 5.2 & 5.9 . What is the constant for the " 128 formula" for small block Chryslers in the 8.5- 9.2 compression range? I am looking to get as much daily driver torque & mileage as possible. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
PS: one is a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 w/auto tra😅ns 318 & 3.55 gears. Another is a 1990 150 2wd auto unknown rear gear. Both are fuel injected.
Thanks again, James Browne Stedman North Carolina 28391
Just got my 1407 tuned to my stock 1980 c30 454.
You're probably atomizing your fuel a lot better with them small boosters at lower RPMs you will not make the power on the high side like you will with the dominators😊
Throttle response seems better now, but it was good before. I think I asked about data logging once before. Would be cool to see how the A/F looks under load on the track. Will you leave the rear end gears as is with the Caspermatic? I imagine first gear ratio will change?
And you're a better man than me... I would never take Casper on a slightly damp road!👍
Remember your baseline your timing your idol your vacuum you're forecorner screws changing else you can think of to go back to.
Idle and four corner.
Just ordered my progression ignition HEI distributor for my big block Chevy. Should be here Wednesday. Anything special I need to know?
What tunnel ram should I run on my 454 oval port. 10 to 1. Comp xtreme 286 grind. 238/246 exuast duration.
Are you gonna have rematch race with Tony an bootlerocket ?
Has anybody boost referenced these carbs yet? For a roots blower application?
Hey andy i be hearing alot of speed of air pistons. Could be good Content for you and david to test on his Mustang.
I've seen them for Diesels, I don't know if they offer them for Gas engines though..
Andy
@UnityMotorSportsGarage uem pistons offers them for gas just have to Special order them for your Application.
Does the engine needs to be under a load to measure afr? Or is free reving without a load sufficient?
I might have missed it, What jet sizes do them come with?
Quadrajets!, try those. They work the best period!
I'm a carb guy and couldn't disagree more lol. Unless you was just being sarcastic lol!
Are quick fuel carbs any good I purchased a circle trac carb from holly for a 350 chevy 750 double pumper I see there not available any more ,P/S have not nun the car yet still under development If you would let me know Thanks
Now put a 1 to 1 linkage set up for better fuel distribution?
What size carbs are they? You didn’t say. I have a warmed over 468 , Howard’s hyd roller cam 226/232 at 50 thou, 570/580 lift. Mildly ported Merlin oval port heads. I have an Edlebrock street tunnel ram. I’d love your opinion. Run the 650 VRS, but unfortunately they come with downleg boosters, or the 750s with the annular boosters???
Love your vids
Thanks for the kind words.. these are 750's
Andy
sweet
What are you setting the valve lash at? It’s kinda loud?. Respectfully sir.
It's set at .024" hot. The Camera mic makes it seem much louder than it really is..
Andy
Glad to see that you are ok. I got worried about you when DV said something about a medical emergency. But I didn't know who. But it's none of my business.
Andy addressed that in a previous video. A family member issue.
@@hotrodray6802 sorry I either missed that or forgot. Thanks
These Edelbrock carbs look an awful lot like Holley now .
Edelbr🥝+🥝ck VRS = ✔️
Drives nice. Can we get back to the track and try to get somewhat close to showing 700 HP?
Hey if you pay the bill to make it happen! Once I get the CASPER-MATIC in it and can actually get it to Launch the ET will show up. What do you think it should run?
Andy
What's the running weight? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember there was a notion of running a OD transmmssion? And what type of trans is the "Casper Matic"? So to answer part of your question, but not knowing the weight (my iron head long bed weighs 3970) with a race C-4 it should atleast be in the low 1.4 60 foot, I'd be looking for 1.3 60s with 700 HP. So I'm thinking a 10.20s should be good in under 2000 DA.
@@VORTECPRO 4280lbs with the C4 it has went 6.80's even if it were a perfect setup I could only see it running 6.50-.60's
Having the right Converter and Transbrake will help
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage I did see that, but the truck came on about 350 feet out. If you get the drive line right a 6.50 should easily happen. I would never run a trans brake in a truck myself. All the work that went into that engine shouldn't be sold short. Somehow my 79 C-10 long bed has almost ( 7 ) 45 pound weight plates less weight than Casper with a C-4 and aluminum heads?
I want 2 950's
Was there any good reason for the mounting stud to be directly in front of A/F screw ... like, main body design was good for 100 horse so it had to be... If not thats freakn REDICULOUS..!!!! That would greatly affect my decision in a purchase. Thanks for the vid..? how is it going with the new seat install.?
Well I have no idea.. but these carbs will fit both a 4150 and 4500 manifold. I'm using the 4500 flange and it could be fine if using the 4150 flange I will have to dig further
Andy
JFC, just use a pocketknife to turn the screw! It aint the end of the world!
Focus on problems, instead of "issues".
It will be a least twice as good
So streetable wonder if your has mileage goes up
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What does vrs stand for?
Victor Race Series
Andy
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Typical fat "out of the box" calibration to try to cover most engine combinations. Fat always makes the engine seem more responsive and smoother. The challenge is to get them to run lean and clean and still be responsive. A good 2 circuit dommy will do that too. And yes, for an engine like that two carbs should always perform better than one due to less pumping loss and better intake runner distribution
Mixture screw gripe? I'd call it yet again a manufacturer using full paying customers as beta testers.
What an utterly ridiculous oversight. How could this ever have been allowed to make to full production?
We hot rodders aren't financial units to exploit - sorry my bad, yes we are.
They just need to use a hex head screw
@@____MC____ Yeah but they didn't.
Shorter carb mounting stud would cure the issue?
Great video as always truck sounds and runs awesome Ford power forever baby a real Chevy and dodge killer l love it keep on bringing it
That will never happen hell he already got beat by a 318 dodge.
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