Why I Left My Toxic “Ride or Die” Relationship

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  • Everyday women share their stories about ending toxic relationships that drained their energy. Bella Jones, Melanie Verstraete, Brianne Huntsman, Dekia Worthy, and critically acclaimed writer Shanita Hubbard have a candid discussion about the negative impacts of being a “ride or die,” and this episode will have you calling everyone you know!
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  • @creating1_c1999
    @creating1_c1999 ปีที่แล้ว +458

    I was always accused of not being a rider. Well, how can you ride for someone who wouldn't give their life for you...and you know it, because they cannot even stick to a simple thing like doing what they say they'll do. I'll ride for Jesus. He died for me!

    • @nolovelost4020
      @nolovelost4020 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @ta-shonstinson7114
      @ta-shonstinson7114 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hallelujah Amen ❤❤❤❤

    • @camiba6773
      @camiba6773 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      also it is not selfish to practice self preservation.

    • @michelleelegance1601
      @michelleelegance1601 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Oh man. This is great!

    • @joannawofford
      @joannawofford ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Been there done that. Until I learned my worth

  • @vienicestyles
    @vienicestyles ปีที่แล้ว +222

    “Ride or Die” creates disrespect. Don’t do it. Do it for yourself. Put yourself first. Always.

    • @pearleepiggue5192
      @pearleepiggue5192 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      God 1ft, children, then me. ❤

    • @staceypalmer476
      @staceypalmer476 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pearleepiggue5192 Absolutely 💯

    • @ayyb6789
      @ayyb6789 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Because most men put themselves first, and a lot of those men will try to put their insecurities off on women they're in a relationship with.

    • @CommonSenseSisters
      @CommonSenseSisters ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You’re absolutely right @vienicestyles ✊🏽

    • @Mimi-xv6jm
      @Mimi-xv6jm ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ayyb6789 exactly, your peace of mind and happiness comes 1st, give love to yourself first.

  • @Cutay7BOOTAY
    @Cutay7BOOTAY ปีที่แล้ว +134

    My mother was always trying to help everyone. It frustrated me as her oldest child because I saw my younger siblings, my Dad and others take advantage of her attention. It’s crazy because even at 16 years old I saw the toxicity in this. I still ended up like her but when I hit 40, I had finally had enough! She and I had long conversations about spreading yourself to thin shortly after She turned 61. It was life changing for us both! We were 20 years apart in age yet we were equal allies in this. I will forever treasure thos conversations with her. She passed away at 67 and everytime someone tries to manipulate what I can help with, I hear her whisper in my ear “you come first, help but don’t hamper”. I miss her but I know she’s on my shoulders everyday ❤

    • @Bloominglotus19
      @Bloominglotus19 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your story is so similar to mine. 20 years apart, turned out like her, she died at 66 years young. I deeply believe that her health issues were a consequence of narcissistic abuse. My process started after she died and my education on narcissism started 6 months ago. Take care of yourself. Healing takes time

    • @teal1010
      @teal1010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I watched my mother do it all!
      Work, attend college, raise 4 children and be a wife !
      I decided, I would have a balance!
      I took care of my husband, children and made time for myself in and out of the home!

    • @faithsrealtalk2292
      @faithsrealtalk2292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I understand this very well..
      I hit 40 years and had an epiphany

    • @cynthiaedwards3716
      @cynthiaedwards3716 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your reply really hit me right in the gut!!!! My mother did the same and I'm just like her. I'm 62 years old and have finally got the strength to say NO !!! . God knows my heart. But I had to learn to take care of me because I have no one else BUT JESUS!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU❤️🙏❤️

  • @dr.kimberlytaylor3599
    @dr.kimberlytaylor3599 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Some of these people don’t deserve you. Stop giving away pieces of your soul for people that in no way deserve to be in a relationship with you. You are worth everything, if you don’t recognize it no one else will.

    • @heathermetz6576
      @heathermetz6576 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Amen.

    • @yogib8
      @yogib8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I am loving me some them/ the ladies… I was in a narcissistic situation ship/ transaction/ marriage for 14 years and it was an absolute nightmare…I saw Bella several times, that I finally asked him for a divorce because I was losing myself in this horrific situation ship… I was gone and NEVER LOOKED BACK! I am so thankful to God that He gave me a second chance. To develop a relationship with Him and getting a chance to love me 1st!

    • @lolatheglorious3105
      @lolatheglorious3105 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES.... YES
      ... and more.....YES!!!!!!!❤

    • @dr.kimberlytaylor3599
      @dr.kimberlytaylor3599 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ladies you are or at least should be first. I thank God everyday I never married mines. And at least he least before I bought a house, they want you to be all in, but they give in return the least amount possible. Now he’s leaching off of a poor nurse that don’t yet know what a looser he is. Always follow your first mine. And ladies if you call up some woman and tell her some man is your husband is yours when you know she been in a relationship with her. She won’t tell you who he is. Be careful out here. When she figures out who he is it will be too late. He never lived in my homes none of them and this is why. He is supposed to be be the provider if I have to provide, I make the rules.

    • @mees2751
      @mees2751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for that message. I kept telling myself this last week

  • @Ash-ol3ji
    @Ash-ol3ji ปีที่แล้ว +51

    In the words of Pastor Jerry Flowers in talking about Ride or Die "Where are we going and why I gotta die?!" I've always cringed in hearing " ride or die". It's the epitome of toxic loyalty.

    • @TweetsyCk
      @TweetsyCk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂😂😂 right!

    • @fixyourbusiness6865
      @fixyourbusiness6865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

    • @user-fg8xt3zg7z
      @user-fg8xt3zg7z ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oooooweee that's a good make it plain comeback 🎯

    • @SuperMichelle76
      @SuperMichelle76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's a great pastor, love him and his sermons!

  • @consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688
    @consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Tamron is still hurting from the death of her sister, who was murdered. I empathize with her because my brother was intentionally fatally hit by a car. If a boyfriend or girlfriend doesn't show support while dating, then he or she would behave worse in marriage.

    • @mskrisl7535
      @mskrisl7535 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly! That relationship sets the stage for what it is going be like.

  • @pearleepiggue5192
    @pearleepiggue5192 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Bella’s Ex response to Tamron Hall is typical of a narcissistic abuser. 💔

    • @sonjabethay2277
      @sonjabethay2277 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was funny though 😂😂😂😂

    • @lydiaheelu2681
      @lydiaheelu2681 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You know what’s up!

    • @Bloominglotus19
      @Bloominglotus19 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I said the same thing. Typical narc

    • @DolceVita
      @DolceVita ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yep. His response substantiated her accusations to a degree

    • @Vanett77
      @Vanett77 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly!

  • @suminahmcfadden4350
    @suminahmcfadden4350 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I love Melanie's term of "emotionally abandoning yourself". That's thusly what being a "ride or die" is. Exchanging your self worth, dreams, health and mental well-being for someone else.

  • @nm985
    @nm985 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I used to be ride or die. I can relate to these ladies. I grew up without my father so I did not know how to relate to men in a healthy way. I did pick up a lot of that from my mother. I no longer want to save someone or fix them or be the person who doesn't give up on them. I am over 50 now so I no longer take on projects.

  • @tawandatate791
    @tawandatate791 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This is so true we just give and give until we have given out!! Then we don't have nothing for ourselves

    • @viazel2796
      @viazel2796 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fact 👑 💯

    • @tunishavance5339
      @tunishavance5339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was me in a 21yr relationship. I gave so much. He took and it gives them a sense of entitlement when you start to set boundaries. I see he didn't respect me at all.

  • @heathermetz6576
    @heathermetz6576 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    13:33 "They wouldn't respect my "NO", so I had to walk away!"

  • @paperjellyfish143
    @paperjellyfish143 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Somewhere in the Bible it say's not to give pearls to swine. Lesson to be learned.

  • @margaretforbes1234
    @margaretforbes1234 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My children can relate to this, as I mature I realized that I was never there for myself so turning 50 is when I awakened and told someone No with no apologies. At 64 now it’s my season

  • @fayc1804
    @fayc1804 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Ride or Die phrase probably usually comes from the one who will always need you so they label y'all's relationship/friendship from the jump to already start grooming you to be the one always showing up with the gas, car, money, babysitting...

  • @BeautifulOnes876
    @BeautifulOnes876 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Keep in mind when we drain ourselves completely out, it takes a hell of a lot to replenish and restore yourself back to health. Holy! In the words of a pastor “What you don’t learn to say ‘no’ to can kill you!” Please take equal care of yourself.

  • @nolovelost4020
    @nolovelost4020 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Wow!! Women are still out here killing themselves for a worthless man?!?! While men are sitting back chilling or sucking the life out of yall. What's wrong with staying single for a while and focusing on yourselves and or children?!?!
    I lead with my head and not my heart so I guess I will never understand this...

    • @kimr.2284
      @kimr.2284 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My mother always said that to me, lead with your head not your heart!😊👌👍

    • @sureok1196
      @sureok1196 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I lead with my head as well, so it's hard for me to understand stuff like this also.

    • @patriciamharris5664
      @patriciamharris5664 ปีที่แล้ว

      CA
      Yup....you won t

    • @aharry31
      @aharry31 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the advice some women are listening to unconsciously or consciously is unbiblical advice which is to "follow your heart" in matters of love, all we need is love and love conquers all things. In contrast the bible says in New Living Translation Jeremiah 17:9
      “The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is? Last but not least Hosea 4:6
      New King James Version
      My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children. Lack of using knowledge (not using your head) and following the heart which is not biblical is a recipe for disaster in finding true love. It will also lead to attracting narcissists who rely on people who will "love" them no matter what to the person's destruction. Women and men must be educated. There are many warnings in the Bible to avoid this type of abuse. I am not blaming the person who is or going through this abuse, because I myself followed this silly advice and reaped the results which was almost losing my life. But, youtubes like this praise God leads to a better understanding among people who have experienced this and know full well how real it is. I had to review my whole life as to how I found myself in a horrible situationship despite being told I was an "intelligent, responsible, prosperous, attractive" women. Childhood wounds unknown to me and not using logic when it came to choosing love (ignoring red flags) caused me to cheat myself out of real quality of life. But, God is good and I am growing in my relationship with Jesus Christ which is an ongoing process to my mind being transformed.

  • @GetUpGetFitGurl
    @GetUpGetFitGurl ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I’m certainly done with “ride or die”
    relationships and blind loyalty especially in friendship and that’s a piece of me I had to course correct because it was to the detriment of myself. I can’t take care of anyone else if I’m not ok, so I had to learn a healthy selfishness and say no to the people I knew would drain me.

    • @viazel2796
      @viazel2796 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @lolatheglorious3105
      @lolatheglorious3105 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am so proud of us!!!! We are shifting things shaking up the earth.💚🦋

    • @tericarter
      @tericarter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ❤❤❤

    • @GetUpGetFitGurl
      @GetUpGetFitGurl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lolatheglorious3105 yesss!! Just out here healing ❤️‍🩹 🙌🏾🫶🏾

  • @allisond4916
    @allisond4916 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    JLo: My Love Don't Cost A Thing
    Guest: Mine does. 💯💯💯💯💯

  • @donniee.2238
    @donniee.2238 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I'm a man and this resonantes with me. This is not just a woman thing.

    • @girlygirl1890
      @girlygirl1890 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I completely agree that this can apply to men as well. Thank you for being a voice for the men too, as I agree that this can apply to anyone.

    • @omfg2crunk
      @omfg2crunk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that was a very ignorant statement for her to make. I've seen more men suffer from this complex than women in my personal experience. My homegirls were the ones jumping from dude to dude no problems while their ex's were desperately trying to get them back or remain in their lives at any cost.

    • @patriciamharris5664
      @patriciamharris5664 ปีที่แล้ว

      Donnie E
      You are correct...

  • @janiah423
    @janiah423 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was the person, who was always there for everyone else. In all of my relationships. I was in a 8 year relationship were I just got tired of letting him blame me for everything. But because of the pandemic my daughter and I are stuck under the same roof with this person. We have tried to reach out to the police, to the housing authorities, homeless shelters hoping that someone somewhere would help us out. My daughter was told that I could come to the homeless shelter, but she could not because he was my boyfriend and not her's! What I come to realize that no one is willing to help us. They just tell us that there sorry about what we are going through.

  • @EvolvingMama_
    @EvolvingMama_ ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Literally just had this convo with my estranged husband , I’m always living for everyone else but me 😭

  • @aaronhill443
    @aaronhill443 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The male version or equivalent of "ride or die" is being Mr. Nice Guy. I would bend over backwards trying to be the opposite of the "bad boy" she just experienced to only be left in a fraction of the time she spent with him. He got all the benefits and I was considered "to nice", "soft", "weak", etc. Trying not to be confrontational, I ended up being a people pleaser and not setting boundaries. I realized that you can't heal a "broken" woman. Some women just like "projects". They don't want the guy with a stable job history, his own transportation, etc. I think the nourishing spirit of a woman wants a man who they can "fix". I had to learn the rough side of being a nice guy which blessed me to learn how to be more of an alpha male.

    • @zxcccccc1
      @zxcccccc1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's sad that some people have horrible experiences but it isn't your responsibility to fix them nor be neglected or abused by them. I take responsibility for allowing garbage into my life even though the foundation was set from my childhood experiences.

  • @CommonSenseSisters
    @CommonSenseSisters ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ladies always remember this…. 💭 There is no crown 👑 for LTS (Long-Term Suffering) PUT “YOU” FIRST ❤
    The term “*Ride or die*” almost seems like people who sacrifice the most in any type of relationship get taken advantaged of. Whether it’s their time, energy, emotion, resources & find themselves stuck in the “people pleasing” cycle knowingly or unknowingly.
    It’s important to set clear boundaries of how you will utilize your time & resources in any type of relationship (platonic, agape or romantic) be selfish with self-care❤ by not compromising for people who always seem to exploit you (the giver) 🤗 else you will LOSE YOURSELF & SENSE OF PURPOSE

  • @Immacowgirl
    @Immacowgirl ปีที่แล้ว +26

    What she said may have been Comical, but it was the TRUTH!!!! 👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾💯💯💯💯💯

  • @RealRoyaltE
    @RealRoyaltE ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ride or die is dead…been dead, and will stay dead💀 Boundaries are soo ms necessary - Continuously showing up for people that can’t or won’t show up for you leaves you depleted. The new motto: Reciprocity or leave me alone.

  • @pernellamorris4811
    @pernellamorris4811 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It always comes by not understanding your worth. Relationships, Family, Acquaintances & even Church people can put U in the ride or die position. Been there, done that. The best thing that happened to me was finding Me!!

  • @vienicestyles
    @vienicestyles ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Children of divorced parents grow up to be divorced. It’s a fact. You mimic what you saw growing up. Therapy is a must for men and woman to heal childhood wounds so you can have healthy adult relationships.

    • @sureok1196
      @sureok1196 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not always. Both my ex husband and I come from parents that were in long term marriages, yet we only stayed married 4 yrs.

  • @virtuousqueen790
    @virtuousqueen790 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was a “Topic” that needed to be talked/Discussion to have, so many women can relate .

  • @sellioness2348
    @sellioness2348 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wow, this is exactly what I needed to see! Just admitted to myself that I am experiencing burnout from self-neglect. Thank you for this conversation. Congratulations to all the women who spoke here, admirably that they found their voice and regained control of their life.

  • @aninduvialwithagoodheart
    @aninduvialwithagoodheart ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Most toxic people never feel or take account that they have these traits and feel and think their actions are normal. No one deserves to be treated poorly when they are wholeheartedly loving or caring for someone. It seems those we love and care for the most 1 don't even love themselves and 2 rarely know how to love someone else. Glad they realized their strengths.

  • @christinthemystic
    @christinthemystic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes to all this! I left my job, left my husband, left my family, left my friends and now help other women get back to what I call their 98%, which is our creative genius. I now curate art exhibitions and have healing conversations on how we love a happy, fulfilled, peaceful life. This clip was right on time!!! ✨

  • @leesteal4458
    @leesteal4458 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just yesterday, I was thinking of how harsh I am for actively not be trying to be close to anyone except my son; this video is so timely, as it makes me realize that I am doing the right thing.

  • @clove8763
    @clove8763 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Awesome show today!! 👏👏👏 Ladies (and Gents), It's time for us to Live In Peace instead of stretching yourselves to the point where when people see your name, they would have to put beside it...R.I.P. So-called Friend, Lover, Family Member, Mentor, Whoever: DROP the dead weights so you won't drop dead yourself! Let's make LIP go viral by aligning with its actual acronym: LIVE IN PEACE!!!! ☀ #PointBlank #LIP

  • @TalkCafeTV
    @TalkCafeTV ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That red lipstick on the lady in the middle is 🔥 🔥.

  • @misstrice84
    @misstrice84 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While serving in ministry and having a full-time job, I became overwhelmed and drained by showing up all the time. My mentor in the ministry that I serve in basically told me that I am not supposed to serve or work to my detriment.

  • @CoachLove
    @CoachLove ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Yep. Been there for everyone else, my students especially, and it nearly cost me my life. Now I suffer with major health issues. Women will be sick and keep going with hundreds of responsibilities…

    • @CoachLove
      @CoachLove ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish I’d quit after my first surgery…😔

    • @ivorybryan3261
      @ivorybryan3261 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Your surgery post really got to me 🥺 I’ve worked and bent over backward for people so much that I’ve been referred to neurosurgery for severe back pains due to sustaining an injury. Where is everyone else? Nowhere to be found. It’s just me. Crazy how we’ve been taught to give until we’re empty. Now look at me. 😞 Pray my strength, please. 👏🏾✨

  • @sherrisolomon8673
    @sherrisolomon8673 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All I can say is his episode is absolutely familiar. Thank you for airing it.

  • @CommunitySage
    @CommunitySage ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is codependency many women are reared this way

  • @Legacychaser_777
    @Legacychaser_777 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Awesome job ladies! Great conversation and happy healing! Here for Bella, I see you girl! 🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @tinab8466
    @tinab8466 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    BW should leave BM alone and just let them explode on their own.

  • @albertamiddleton4038
    @albertamiddleton4038 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's funny how they said "I chose me" because I had a major life change that required me to change states and jobs. So I was a remote worker at a call center. I got cussed out at least twice a day by callers. I lost 2 siblings during the 5 years that I worked in that role. I tried to hang on but I just couldn't. Reflecting on my life, and of my siblings, I told God in a frantic rant, I CHOOSE ME. I resigned and I've since been blessed with the kind of work that I'm accustomed to doing. One may say why didnt I quit before and its because of the pay and the state I now live in and the abuser paid well. But I didnt lose the pay when I resigned. God is good. Choosing you can open up doors no man can shut.

    • @zxcccccc1
      @zxcccccc1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your story.

  • @369rising9
    @369rising9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ride or die seems so giving & unselfish but it's really selfish because it's not unconditional & something undisclosed & impossible is expected in return. It's a destructive way to try to get needs met when we're cluless.

  • @prettyllady
    @prettyllady ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's like what crap is he doing, that i gotta die for him?! FOH 🙅🏼‍♀️

  • @jenniferbrown8568
    @jenniferbrown8568 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m ride or die for self

  • @g30rg3gp0rg
    @g30rg3gp0rg ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The reward comes in heaven. However, God gives us wisdom & He doesn't want us being fools for folks

  • @KiaFlow
    @KiaFlow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never been a ride or die and still got married. I still had to learn to love myself at some point due to other decisions I made but the Libra in me can't give more than I receive.

  • @briannejohnson7456
    @briannejohnson7456 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can so relate " who do I need to be to keep you because I'm afraid you're going to leave " 😢hit home for me 🫶🏽

  • @naviifra2374
    @naviifra2374 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The common theme is no father 😢

    • @isebi7592
      @isebi7592 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's not an excuse and I hate it when women always bring it up. I grew up without a father but I don't take shit from men. I just turned 31 on 12th October and I am not afraid of being unmarried or childless. I am lawyer and I enjoy my job. Those who have issues should seek help and I do believe that a lot of people do need help, both men and women. Always follow your instincts as a woman.

    • @sureok1196
      @sureok1196 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! I was just about to post this.

    • @sureok1196
      @sureok1196 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@isebi7592 it's not an excuse, but lack of father's in homes definitely leads to stuff like this for women. Good daddy's show girls how to respect themselves and how a man should treat you; mine did that. When you don't have that example, you're just out here floundering and trying to figure it out on your own.

    • @Only1SapphireDiamond
      @Only1SapphireDiamond ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not necessarily, I was raised by my father from a young age and I’m only now recovering from many of the traumas these ladies spoke of.

    • @byst8729
      @byst8729 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Navi Having a father in your life doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll get the role modelling, teachings and lessons, if that person is toxic themselves. You’re better off with no father than to have a toxic father that can do more damage.

  • @lovemoneygotti
    @lovemoneygotti ปีที่แล้ว

    Resonated with Tamron’s city so much. Thank you for this episode.

  • @gigi89
    @gigi89 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tam so fly as always!

  • @reneewalker3836
    @reneewalker3836 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, This resignation is part of me also. A lot of us suffer from trauma from childhood issues or family issues where we felt we were the one that had to solve the problem or fix the issues. We grow up still feeling that we must fix everything or everyone..
    Because we might feel we were the problem so we must fix everything and make it right. The problem is we can't make it right or fix it. We grow up with The Fix it Syndrome. This is what we bring into our relationships...Sadly, we are drained, many of us and don't know it...
    Unfortunately, some of us spent our time Loving others while not investing in learning how to Love Ourselves 💕 What We Can Do, is Change Our perceptions of Who we are and what we want to grow ❤️ into becoming. First We Have to Learn we are Worthy of Love and Love Ourselves ❤️

  • @viazel2796
    @viazel2796 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome show 👏🏾!

  • @kitw76
    @kitw76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can’t change other people unless they want to change, value your help and you! Been there and done it and I learned I’m worth more and I wanted someone that was already whole!

  • @clementine4133
    @clementine4133 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so happy to see this woman and others expressing their realization of self love, value and Life. Congratulations!!! We are precious and deserve a good life, where we matter, where we are the center. God bless you all. Amen!
    Of course, when I think about my mother, sister, aunts, friends, neighbors... those relationships, marriages, families for most were bad, toxic, miserable, abusive!

  • @Lovingmylife24
    @Lovingmylife24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A lot times we believe we have to be ride or die to have someone. I always had a problem being ride or die and seeing others I love be ride or die due to the mistreatment and conditions that can come with it. It’s not for me and that’s probably why I am single.

  • @keshacovington3297
    @keshacovington3297 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s so much to be said. What an awesome discussion. I have witnessed within my own family the “ride or die” support offered and extended. It’s NOOO joke. We sadly had some to pass away due to the exhaustion of trying to help family members regardless of their toxic situations. It’s not worth it. Lastly, sin alone affects all of us in major ways. Sin that isn’t confessed to God with His grace to help us make better life decisions definitely affects us. Real talk. Sinfulness that’s unaddressed makes life harder. It just does. ❤️

  • @SELFCAREMODEL
    @SELFCAREMODEL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT INTERVIEW TAM. I LOVED HOW THESE BEAUTIFUL LADIES RECEIVED CREDIT & WERE BOLD ENOUGH TO TELL THERE TRUTHS. IT JUST SHOWS WE ARE NOT ALONE. I HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO WALK AWAY FROM MY CAREER PATH BECAUSE MY DOCTOR TIED MY HEALTH DECLINING TO MY WORK. I TRIED EVERYTHING TO HOLD ON. TURNS OUT LETTING GO DOESNT MAKE YOU WEAK OR WORTHLESS. IT CAN LITERALLY SAVE YOUR LIFE. IT ACTUALLY SPARKED MY SELF-CARE JOURNEY & MY NEW NAME ❤️. I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE CANT QUIT, BUT TRY TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE IN BETWEEN THAT LESS STRESSFUL. YOU HAVE TO SAVE YOURSELF 1ST. YOU ARE WORTH IT. I DEFINITELY MIGHT HAVE TO REVIEW THIS INTERVIEW FOR MY COMMUNITY❤️

  • @hildamartinez8640
    @hildamartinez8640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tamron i was a ride or die , to the point that I lost my child as a result of decisions I made to keep that “relationship”. I had to literally run , to save myself . Compromise in relationships is what most people do , who has low self esteem. Now I know 💕

  • @aquickstory2196
    @aquickstory2196 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    this is very serious

  • @diannjones209
    @diannjones209 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being A Ride Or Die Person drove me down hill so I Reverse my Directions Focus on My Own Health & Happiness and Riding on Self Love, Have Accomplished Goals I Put Off & Living a Much Happier Lifestyle 🙏🏽

  • @mc1618
    @mc1618 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who do I need to be in order to keep you! Oh wow that’s deep on so many levels.# toxic

  • @sierramilan7410
    @sierramilan7410 ปีที่แล้ว

    We've been talking about this topic all week.
    If it doesn't benefit or help me I CANT!!

  • @ladyvideogamer9636
    @ladyvideogamer9636 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. You have to put yourself first!!! 2. Learn to say no!!! And 3. Yes sometimes you do need to be a little selfish in order to put yourself first. Great topic.

  • @unaparker357
    @unaparker357 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was NEVER a ride or die type of person, and i really didn't understood the concept and WHY. however, i was such a giver and when i saw that it was draining me [especially with this one "friend" i had to escape from it for ME and God showed me how and i did it with NO regrets.

  • @susan8576
    @susan8576 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The lady in the opening has been killed too many times.....she been rode and died...😅😅 Funny enough that's the reality of some of us.
    I'm done doing relationships based on cultural slangs that sound right but end up hurting me.
    Recommended reading: Boundaries

  • @kimberlydiaz282
    @kimberlydiaz282 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank yall for this 💓

  • @nataliegentry8029
    @nataliegentry8029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agreed, re: quitting job in order to find a sense of self....glad Nikia did it!

  • @candacebutler7011
    @candacebutler7011 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this!

  • @cynthiaking8385
    @cynthiaking8385 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was so NEEDED thank you

  • @Razzbme
    @Razzbme ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing here but facts!!! Thank you.

  • @teal1010
    @teal1010 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Who do I have to be to keep you?"
    For me, it was:
    I'm not trying to be what you want!
    I'm improving who I am!

  • @vanillabee2790
    @vanillabee2790 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love love this concept

  • @lamarjohnson4023
    @lamarjohnson4023 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have not at all left none of my toxic "Ride or Die" relations.A serious somebody better get me out of the "Ride or Die" environment that I live in now.I work for a living,I work for every single body's living.Absolutely,positively nobody wants to keep me out of anything toxic a relationship or environment.It's all of what's at fault for why I'm not eating and keep falling over from not eating.

    • @ms.ladysanders3939
      @ms.ladysanders3939 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are you talking about? 😵😵😵

    • @luckzthesecond1694
      @luckzthesecond1694 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have to eat. Don't be too busy doing things for everyone else. You have to take care of you. I pray for peace, health, and healing for you Lamar. I pray you practice self-care. Please take care of yourself.

    • @TweetsyCk
      @TweetsyCk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just say no. Let them know how you’re being affected. If you find those not caring about your well being, it should drive the influence to steer away from those that mean you no good. If you won’t do for you- who will. Pray you look too God for guidance, discernment, strength & peace. He will always make a way.

    • @luckzthesecond1694
      @luckzthesecond1694 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TweetsyCk is right too.

    • @softersideofc.c.5655
      @softersideofc.c.5655 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to set your boundaries an stop showing up for others if it stressing you out. Everyone that is dependent on you will be ok. If you take sometime for yourself. Especially if there adults they will be fine

  • @nataliegentry8029
    @nataliegentry8029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I not only see this in the microcosm of personal relationships, I see this in a macrocosm of dealing with race relations and socioeconomic relationships. Yes, if you do this with one person, you can do it with everyone you connect with.

  • @Butterfly-vy6hz
    @Butterfly-vy6hz ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow my friends had that conversation with me too. They wanted to know how to show up for me and I wasn’t even sure what to tell them. Work in progress!

  • @justjoan4010
    @justjoan4010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s a show called “For My Man”. It’s about women doing anything for their men. Including criminal acts where some are in jail for the rest of their lives. A lot of them have kids, was raised well. Really sad . . . for a man. For anyone who is trying to bring you down is not healthy.

  • @barbarasaunders2160
    @barbarasaunders2160 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, we have been socially conditioned to believe we can do it all, and we have to save everyone and everything. We have to let it go. Wow, she even quit her job, to save herself. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @keyjiggs4577
    @keyjiggs4577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hits home so much!

  • @bettywhitfield983
    @bettywhitfield983 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Tamron luv your suit great show Betty

  • @marmun8138
    @marmun8138 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my head I constantly feel like I have be that person. I have to talk to myself whenever that feeling comes on.

  • @vuksgitau
    @vuksgitau ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would never not ever and I also didn't have my dad growing up 🤷🏿‍♀️ but my mom taught me to love myself by her example she didn't ever bring men around me and I believe that saved me many years of therapy.

    • @chimereballard9609
      @chimereballard9609 ปีที่แล้ว

      My mother either. She didn’t deal with toxic men, she dropped them like a hot potato, LoL & also didn’t bring a bunch of boyfriends around

  • @alladeendouglas5897
    @alladeendouglas5897 ปีที่แล้ว

    This teacher's story cuts me deep as an educator that's exactly what is happening to me right now.

  • @spectacularrichbeautybrilli
    @spectacularrichbeautybrilli ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such an ESSENTIAL topic on many different levels as present here on the panel. Please follow-up w/ a part two!
    My sister just called me the other day crying to understand this "ride or die" dynamic saying..."I have been single for 10 years making happy career strides and providing selfless acts to so many others to include animal shelters, but I am now feeling depleted because no one is here with me to celebrate, support, and care for me." This feeling left her feeling sick and isolated in bed for a week....w/ no support. I think 1/2 of the human population suffers from this selfless-abuse.

  • @helenjones2343
    @helenjones2343 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great conversation! I am like these women to a certain degree. Not with men, but with my family. My children, and I would have been this way with other family members if I had the opportunity to share love with them. Thankfully and sadly they destroyed family relations before I could pour into them completely!
    However, I have realized with my children that I gave, and gave, and gave! And the only thing I got back was ungratefulness! I was used up and thrown away. Until they needed me some more. But, I have learned to say’No!’ Watch them turn ugly when you learn the word no! I never lost myself! However, I was beginning to feel frustrated and then bitterness reared its ugly head! Now it’s my time and I love it! Being selfish is not natural for me, but I love being selfish!

    • @user-fg8xt3zg7z
      @user-fg8xt3zg7z ปีที่แล้ว

      I can identify with you. Spot on. My motto when my son died was getting through this in a healthy manner especially when bitterness & stop loving reared so I keep that motto.

  • @monicasmith9215
    @monicasmith9215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @highrawvegan
    @highrawvegan ปีที่แล้ว

    Teacher here. I connect 100 percent with the teacher who shared at the end. I would love to know how she escaped. I'm ready to jump - just don't know how. 😔

  • @anjeliquebelcher4366
    @anjeliquebelcher4366 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm so happy for friend

  • @fayc1804
    @fayc1804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The teacher seemed to blame the job of teaching, which it wasn't. She was the "problem". I hate that she left teaching completely, when maybe she could have moved to another school and been the new her with SELF-prescribed boundaries...like
    No buying kids coats or food or supplies. When there is a need, send the kid to the proper channel (school counselor!).
    No letting kids eat lunch with me. I will close my door and give them a pass to the library or to their counselor.
    No saying yes immediately. From now on, I'll say, Let me check my calendar. I may be able to do it AFTER I finish the to-do list for MY students.

  • @mskrisl7535
    @mskrisl7535 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can relate! 10yrs wasted on someone who was never going to be faithful. When you lack Self Love you settle for whatever! I had to come to the realization that "I" am special, I deserve better. Left him and never looked back. 5yrs Single, the first 2yrs were all about me then I just dated to enjoy being treated out to dinner and having great company and conversations. Finally settling down with someone who I was friends with first for several years and we talked about everything but he hid his lack of compassion, his hurt that he never healed from. He totally changed. I found out after I moved in with him....bad decision it ended in 8 months. Although, I dodge a bullet because finding this out after marriage would've been devastating. I'm great now 5months later! God allowed me to feel the pain for a moment. Once I moved out I felt so much peace.

  • @ceeceeclarke6130
    @ceeceeclarke6130 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a recovered RorD.... 15 years liberated 🎉🎉🎉🌺🌸🌼

  • @angeritalewis8859
    @angeritalewis8859 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just the best topic please revisit this one 💯

  • @sobeliever1638
    @sobeliever1638 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ride or die is for people afraid to be alone nor think they deserve better.

  • @vickyalvarez6886
    @vickyalvarez6886 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love her. Tik Tok sis. Yaaaaasssssss Bella‼️

  • @LindaTinahTV
    @LindaTinahTV ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a ride or die but I know who to do it for

  • @tinawright9500
    @tinawright9500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That saying NEVER NEVER NEVER ever applies to me no matter WHAT , WHO , WHY , or BECAUSE . And NEVER let anyone TAKE away your INTEGRITY , CHARACTER , and your SOUL . Our 🙏 🙏 🙏 FATHER above and his SON are the only two PERFECTLY people on EARTH 🌏 🌐 🌏 and on this PLANET . And those two people we can't SEE 👀 👁 👀 or TOUCH . So if a person can give THEMSELVES to SOMEONE that they CAN'T even see . Then why is anyone else WORTHY of our EXISTENCE ?

  • @MoeSoNatural
    @MoeSoNatural 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My girl Bella!

  • @lenaywhitlock4179
    @lenaywhitlock4179 ปีที่แล้ว

    US WOMEN TEND TO LOSE OURSELVES IN OUR RELATIONSHIP! I HAD TO REALIZE THAT I WAS WORSHIPING "THE WRONG MAN" WHEN I NEEDED TO BE WORSHIPPING JESUS "THE RIGHT MAN"! I HAD TO GO BACK TO MY FIRST LOVE THE ONE WHO WILL NEVER LEAVE ME NOR FORSAKE ME OR BREAK MY HEART! HE ROSE AND DIED FOR ALL OF US! NOW THAT'S LOVE! LOVE HIM AND HE WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO LOVE YOURSELF AND OTHERS! GREAT SHOW TAMRON - WE AS WOMEN NEED TO HEAR THIS!

  • @berriebamps9016
    @berriebamps9016 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somebody Texting and advising Ye to take his med he is the craziest has Kenya gotten this level before

  • @travelwithsouthernchick5112
    @travelwithsouthernchick5112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ride or Die is something a man say to make a woman feel like she always have to be down for whatever!!! Don’t believe it this man will leave for the next exciting thing in this man mind it’s just mind games.. been there 9 years of pure HE!!….. Love myself to walk away!! More like run!!!

  • @educate-t1
    @educate-t1 ปีที่แล้ว

    the problem is.....The men didn't even ask us to be 'a ride or die' .
    It is like you work for free for a position that's not even open for vacancy. Hence, volunteering