Customer removed a blown capacitor and that didn't fix the problem, what went wrong? Acer nitro 5
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I really want a 'properly calibrated fuse" merch T shirt.
a 'properly calibrated wire" boxer shorts
"Let’s plug the charger!"
and we have a picture, i can't believe lol 😂
"it's working! That's insane!"
„No cap = no short“
Sorin's calibrated fuse is my favorite.
Sorin you have to make a video about removing capacitors , or people will start to remove all capacitors from boards, LOL😂😂
That wire is asking for a pay rise!
Nice simple repair for our Maestro Sorin 👌
I think you should make a video teaching people the difference between componants and their code names on motherboards but still this must be repaired by professionals
Yeah, for sure
Just Google it if you're not sure.
people have to make their own researches on the internet . I say that because I started learning electronics to fix stuffs one year ago , and the majority of videos , even books teaching you the main components widely used , is incomplete , and to make things harder , some components , especially the smd type , look alike , this very confusing at first . As an exemple , smd resistors look physically like some smd fuse , smd inductors . Not to mention inductors that have a large variety of shape and size . The best way to learn them is by trying to fix a large variety of electronic devices ,and when you encounter unknown components , search them on the internet and write them somewhere to create your own electronic components data base
why only left to professionals, as far as you have understanding what you are doing and have tools to perform, it is not that difficult. the person can easily figure it out by reading the writing on the component.. for example for the inductor on this video written as PL and L stand for inductor.
Definitely need some "Proper calibrated fuse Tee shirts" made.
yes i think that inductor has blow up if you look close to the pads you will notice some black soot thank you sorin for all your videos and keep up.
wish you good recovery i noticed that you have a cold stay safe
i was thinking the same thing, could it be that it realy was bad since laptop stop working
me too @@LordAnubis0909
I thank the user first for sending his laptop to you, Sorin and where you, with your specific humor, managed to make us laugh heartily and taught us praiseworthy lessons. We need more videos like that. Keep it up, Sorin!
It’s working , I can’t believe !
Sorin admiring his work.
You have been an amazing and talented computer engineer i want to merge up
our dear master Sorin has become a master comic as well🤣🤣😄
12:55 - Yes it blew up for a reason, reason can be that he unplug or plug back SSD while laptop was ON. Not necessarily problem is still there. No hard feelings but if he didnt know that L is inductor and not C capacitor, he can do things like what I explained.
Removing capacitors can pass without problems if they are DECOUPLING. Removing COUPLING capacitor will not pass without problems.
Orion, can you please elaborate more what coupling cap is and why it would cause problems if removed? From what I have learned in this channel, it is always safe to remove capacitor which one leg is on the ground.
@@asv5769 If one leg is on ground, its DECOUPLING. Device maybe can work without this one.
If NO legs on ground, it means is COUPLING. It means you break path when you remove this one. Device will not work without this one. Google coupling and decoupling capacitor.
@@asv5769Coupling capacitor is used to introduce AC component to DC circuit (e.g. in signal amplifiers), or vice versa. The AC signal will not pass further if that kind of capacitor is removed from the circuit.
@@MykolaInc: Indeed. Completely agree. Technical books include the different classes of amplifiers (A, B, AB, C and D) in their curriculum and they are still taught, with transistor-based labs, in some good electronics technical schools. Another way to say it, excellent answer; correct or exact (without leaving room for discussion) the one you share with us in a way that is as simple as it is concise (to the heart of the matter). Thank you very much Mykolalnc. All the best.
Good idea about the fuse blowing instead of replacing inductor! Nice fix
No capacitor, no problem! The 'trick' is having the knowledge to know when (and why) you can *sometimes* remove a capacitor and not replace it... Another 'trick' is to learn the difference between a Capacitor and an Inductor! ;)
Wonderful Sorin! But, could you make four videos a day please? I am addicted !!🤣🤣
You told them to do so (kind of). I remember a video where you just removed a component "because we don't need it". I think it was a mosfet near the cpu but I don't find the video right now..... However it worked (for testing ) and I laughed my ass of because of your comments on that one. That video was the reason I subscribed
"professional capacitor remover" 👏🤣🤣
Darn your good. Good explanation. Good work
Acer identified (screen printing with white ink) its PCB and as they say in tennis: point for the manufacturer! and at the end of course, Match for Sorin!
Good job mate 👍
Thank you very much.
Nice job! also, I think that on the place of removed PL was a black trace, so my conclusion is that this PL was really blown and a customer was clearly saw this.
Sorin: no caps no problem.
customer: no caps, now laptop not even on. 😢
viewers: new content for learn 😂❤
Sorin has evolved to 60 fps! Proper nice!
Thank Sorin and keep up
Would it be more appropriate to install a Fuse in-series with a OEM Inductor to bring things back to original design & have an added future protection.
Your video's are inspiring new learners across the pond.
From Alberta, Canada.
I found a very good fix, without disassembly. By running the laptop on battery, writing some lines in word pad or notepad, and not using any other application. Some desktop renaming, file explorer, starting the Start menu, and offline. The fan speed informs, how the fix is working, the aim is to reach min fan speed using each power plan,
with max settings. The fan speed must be min through the whole drain. The cpu has to be set to 0% at min, 100 for max. Balanced mode balances the battery, each cell has to be evenly warm, the battery electronic panel hot. After the fix is done, the cool laptop can be used for gaming forever, with just one battery pack. The battery doesn’t have to be in the laptop after the fix.
Beautiful 🎉 thanks
Why did you not replace it with proper inductor or run burn-in with GPU benchmark for 2 hours to assure no other system stability issues?
He _does_ have the problem that he has no idea what sort of inductor was there originally.
But yes, he did a very crude hack and concluded it was OK. He does that sort of thing a lot.
The inductor was probably a "ferrite bead" designed to be lossy (like a resistor) at high frequency and used to meet EMI/RFI standards. It might also have been important for signal integrity. He's been known to take out a bunch of ceramic caps there at least in part for the same reason and just state completely without evidence that the board would still meet standards.
@@d614gakadoug9: Multilayer Chip Bead, Impedance =100 ohms, DC Resistance = 0.02 ohms, Rated Current = 5A máx. All the best.
Two days ago I tried to do a hinge repair on my old laptop. I had to take it apart almost completely and the plastic melted and warped to the point that the battery can't be inserted again. The hinges moved a bit and I had to cut away plastic so I could assemble everything back.
I still didn't find the courage to try to turn it on 😂😂
@westsenkovec: I understand you. It anguishes me until it makes me tremble (panic It makes me feel like a cold sweat runs down my back) when my close family members ask me to check their iPhone. Fortunately they believe me when I tell them that I do not have nor do I intend to order such expensive replacement components...
PS: Just thinking about opening it, with my nerves I think I would break the plastic casings
@@AzuaraRuiz-md1bi everything went well until I was finished. Then I saw the warping. I was disappointed because I was careful not to point the hot air towards the plastic. Maybe the ambient heat was too high.
@@westsenkovec Thanks for your answer. I have broken the fragile front plastic bezel (hooks, very poor quality) on Atvio frequently although I use a plastic spudger to reach the hinges and when I remove the screws, the plastic support that contains them also breaks. It's China and there was government support for many children to receive "virtual" classes during...
The good thing is that it is yours and you can decide later to buy another case. Sincere greetings from Mexico.
First thing i thought was the owner didn’t know what a cap looked like, especially if its burned. Maybe the inductor was going to fail anyway and this guy just got unlucky or something shorted since the case had been opened to put in the SSD.
Do you know exact current when that wire blowup? What is diameter?
Probably owner shorted his screw of that inductor with the plugue case beside, same way Sorin touched the "wire/proper calibrated" fuse to power plugue shell and it burned.
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Genius Sorin.
Is there a video on how to make or find a proper calibrated fuse?
This is great ❤
😂 I usually because i don't have your insightful knowledge in capacitors so i usually study the data sheet of the ic near the IC so i can understand what is its job.
I think he removed the battery to install the ssd, on the next boot takes longer to boot because its load the kbc rom, so he panic and removed the inductor.
PCB shows burn marks/soot, and one of the pads actually seemed to have a velded piece of component in the middle. So some sort of event did occur.
In my younger days a short between adjacent windings in power transformers was a thing (due to poor quality of insulating enamel), causing the whole transformer to burn. S
ince this is a high power circuit in laptop terms, by any chance such a short happened in the coil here? Might go unnoticed for long time if power supply is connected permanently and esp PC is on all the time, or the burn effect may take time (multiple power cycles) to develop into a catastrophic event..
Yes, that was what I thinking, most Acer bios will restart 2-3 time to detect the hardware, detect the OS, then save the setting.
@@drEvilfromLV the burn marks mostly just reset the bios, with the battery should still be able to turn on but until he paly around and lost all the battery power.
Thank you for the explanation at the end. I remember you saying an inductor is a wire, so what you did is definitely a safer option,… excellent work Sorin
There is zero reason to believe that what he did is "a safer option." The inductor that was there originally might have fused at less than 1 ampere while the wire would probably hold up just fine for quite some time at at least 5 amperes.
and there's 0 reason to believe you after using the the word might as solid proof. Go hate on someone else. Be gone goblin@@d614gakadoug9
Hi Sorin Do you still have that laptop at the shop? have a look at your video at 5.12 the pad looks loose. maybe that is why the inductor looked burnt from a bad connection.
I think he meant the laptop stopped working and he just chose to check and he thought he found a short. Maybe what he meant by blown is shorted cap but it's not a cap. Still does not explain why the lap stopped working!
the inductor fried and opened, he thought it was a shorted cap and just removed it but yeah, it didn't change anything
Please I need you contact
Good video but as far as anyone has better understanding what is doing and have tools to perform, it is not that difficult. The customer can easily figure it out which component was blown up by reading the writing on the beside o;n the component on the motherboard.. For example for the inductor on this video written as PL and L stand for inductor.
I really wanna know how much current that „proper calibrated fuse“ can handle? Just for my curiosity :)
Can try remove the soldered proper calibrated wire and see if the picture still coming on
it's most likely just noise suppression inductor. So most defenently, does not do anny switching.
from black marks on board feels like there were something touched with the gnd :D
black marks could be from customers soldering iron. maybe too hot. we will never know the exact cause
no way its soldering iron. more like measuring voltage with mm in amps mode :D
@@eqp9988 i wouldnt be suprised either way
That was static charge retained after replacing the SSD
6:39 little short to connector gnd
No reason can't have both a PCF *and* and replace the inductor. Install them in series.
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
Before the days of surface mounted components it was easy to tell just what
a component was just by it's appearance, but today unless they have markings on them
or on the pcb they all look the same.
So unless you have the experience as Sorin has, don't remove anything.
Not even a "Calibrated Fuse"!🤣
Because these Win10 or Win11 systems sometimes don't show anything on screen for awhile while booting. So no feedback leads to the thinking that the computer is faulty
Inductors act like fuses sometimes and do burn out.
what's the amperage of the wire you used ?
calibrated!
Oh I see, I was going to say what you do with a bad cap? but now I understand why you said it.
If a capacitor blew but was not shorted afterwards, removing it would don absolutely nothing...... Something caused the inductor to blow, the black mark on the board shows that. The laptop then stopped working, but removal of the blown inductor would of course do nothing. Now that it's working, need to know if the owner took out the SSD which appears to have caused the fault or if that was just a coincidence.
Inductors conserve current by storing energy in a magnetic field, whereas capacitors preserve voltage by storing energy in an electric field. Please explain why replacing an inductor with a "fuse" works? Since most inductors are low in resistance, doing so are you not changing the purpose of that specific circuit?
When next video will be uploaded on next channel
was the inductot required for buck/boost power supply. why did the circuit still work with a low inductance wire???
If there are no pulsating current on one of the sides of the inductor it's probably just a filter (the same purpose as bypass capacitor) and could be more or less safely replaced by a wire.
It it was like the other small inductors shown it was almost certainly a "ferrite bead." These are usually just a straight conductor passing through a small piece of ferrite and used to suppress very high frequency noise currents. They actually behave more like a resistance than an inductance at high frequency so that the energy is converted to heat. In any case any package that would fit on those pods would be far, far to small to have useful inductance for energy storage as in a switching converter.
İ think This inductor supplying lcd light 19v
You could check the "fuse" with your thermal cam to see if its getting warm or not...
Thermal cam are so expensive
@@leonardnyirongo1485 Sorin have thermal cam.
Well, if the customers story is accurate it would suggest the inductor had burnt out (open circuit).
That makes sense of your fix.
Sir Sorin am a computer apprentice in Nigeria Africa i want to come over to chicago where you work and advance my computer training with you over there sir... Waiting to hear from you sir
We all have to start somewhere.
I'd say, if you don't remove caps yourself, you won't learn.
If you mess up, that's gonna be a lesson.
please put a link where we can buy this proper calibrated wires :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
12:09 hilarious 😂😂😂
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Windows updated and it took long to restart. The client thought it was a hardware issue.
I handle 30 computers in the office, it is not unusual, if the pc does not start immediately after a silent update.
So without having any idea whatsoever about the type of inductor that was used, he concludes that his ultra-crude "fuse" is somehow safer.
He probably changed SSD with battery connected and shorted something briefly while doing it?
The inductor failed open circuit.
Good Job Professor! Funtastic !...Perhaps Customers Laptop Charger has a very low Amperage below 4 amps...
Can You test your calibrated wire with a thermal camera and see it's behavior?
@@camarasberta9498its just behave life fuse, so don't worry about heating and blow again
hello grand master
In any case we have A Niiice laptop today 👌😎
"Proper Nice "..😊
it will blow up again the amp was high
I bet it just needed power drain, customer thought it was motherboard issue, removed back panel, and triggered the Acer stupid killswitch, then removed a part that didnt have anything to do with problem. You just put mobo back in original state
Inductor was probably open circuit
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there is no reason why the costumer replaced the ssd bcs he alrady have an m.2 ssd wich is realy fast and based on the boot time of the laptop i think the costumer installed windows on the sata ssd and laptop didnt not know from wich to boot and it got frozen anyway a good vidoe as always
Maybe there is a high temperature problem ...
customers most of the time dont have clue what they are talking about , and most of the time they are always wrong :)
U make it look too very easy. Everyone is a Tech now. 😂😂
Capasitor=problems
No cap, no problem. 😂
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magic fuse
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is very dangerous ✍✍to remove capacitor by myself ✍✍ must send to Sorin to remove capacitor ✍✍.
Hahaha. "Let the professionals handle capacitor removal" ...with professional tools like those pliers.
Maybe some day he'll have a guest who actually is a professional.
If I remove the capacitor the capacitor will not get shorted 😂😂
Got it right but not done it right :P
no capacitor is like new shoe without warm sock in Russia
Customer drops screw in machine and shorts the line that the PL fed, blows PL, doesn’t tell the truth.
It wasn't a 🦆
where the inductor was has a splash of a Poop stain so something caused it to go poof..
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