Now friend codes are useless unless you jave a local friend who plays the same console and games as you, other wise discord is the only way to play with someone not so random
I'd say add some of the mii classes from Miitopia as potential classes. Or if not, add other mii fighters based on other archetypes, like a grappler character which is based on a combination of the Belmonts, Byleth, Samus, Min-Min, etc. Basically long ranged melee with long range grabs. There could also be a heavyweight Mii Fighter like you suggested, based on Bowser, DK, King K Rool, etc. Maybe a lightweight character too.
@@flamo2666 IMO Gunner 3333: Neutral B- Grenade launcher is a braindead edgeguarding/trapping tool. 10 frames + on block (free grab) This move also trumps the usefulness of flame pillar, stealth burst and bomb drop. Side B -Missiles control neutral and weaken shield and can be spammed relatively safe (have up tilt ready to anti air) Up B- Arm rocket best recovery/landing mixup and can be used out of disadvantage. Really hard to punish on reaction. -Vortex- safest OoS option can be used to wavebounce > fair boost. Can 2 frame, can gimp ppl that are doomed without their double jump. Brawler- 2312 Neutral B- Flashing mac punch kills from 90 to 110 depending on rage, it punishes spot dodges and neutral getup. It's also a good platform pressure mixup when opp is afraid of getting command grabbed. (Shot put it's ok but is too slow and opp can avoid it on reaction) Side B- Suplex is a command grab with a bit of armor, ridiculous damage (23%) and puts opp on top of you ready to get sharked with up airs or if they air dodge it, they will get ready to get scooped again. Best platform pressure. It's a mixup on the main stage too because you can dash attack or suplex them. Up B- Soaring Axe kick- ridiculous range (more than cloud's up B) really good OoS. Can kill at 0 under the edge. Beats tethers if you run off stage and up b to the edge. Dumb knockback which will usually get opp off stage. Ppl have to respect you when you recover low or you can kamikazee. Best vertical recovery. Kills around 130% which is fair for move that is very easy to land. (Uppercut has some janky kill confirms but are inconsistent) Down B- Feint jump is the best move out of disadvantage frame 2 inv. You can usually dj and down b to recover off stage safely through the top of the screen. Safe option OoS to not commit with up B. Divekick kills around 140%. Punishes zoners for throwing a projectile. Sneaky way to edgehog. Hard to punish on reaction. Good to time out fresh stock inv frames. Swordfighter- Forgot the numbers but here it is. Neutral B Gale Strike- free follow up & kill confirms (up air, hero spin, bair) 2 frames, stage control. Side B- Chakrum- Gimps, controls neutral, free follow up and kill confirms (dash attack, f smash?) Free grab if blocked (the slow 1) Up B- Skyward slash- best recovery mixup. Decent vertical and horizontal range. Decent damage but hard to combo into. (Hero spin is a good kill confirm off of gale strike BUT it's an awful recovery. Stone scabbard it's cool IF you always plan to recover low (predictable) which also makes you have to hold an edge trap. Down B- Reversal Slash Most ppl have projectiles in this game so of you're going in blind, u might as well have mario's cape. It breaks some reflectors after a ping pong exchange like palutena, pit and gunner. (Gunner dies at 0% if he gets a reflected smash missile) Counter sucks because of the knockback and power thrust is pretty much unreactable and kills around 130% so u can use it if ur opp does not have a projectile.
Axel Morales honestly, I’d switch gunner’s down B to bomb drop because it’s amazing for zoning, stage control, ledge trapping and edge guarding and in my opinion being able to gimp and 2 frame with vortex because you can already gimp with other moves such as neutral air, and because 2 framing with vortex isn’t that good. I’d then replace neutral B with charge shot because bomb drop does what grenade launch does and more.
Axel Morales I’m gonna be honest my reply didn’t wasn’t talking movesets it was asking, “yeah they may each have their own pros and cons but out of all of those which mii is overall the best. Your comment about movesets was the thing I never knew I needed.
How bout magic/psi users? There are a bunch of characters that fight using magic and have insanely strong throws, like Mewtwo, Ness, Lucas, Zelda, etc A wizard Mii would be cool
honestly the best way to improve the mii fighters is to introduce the Miitopia classes (miitopia is a game that sets the miis on a classic rpg adventure with a bunch of classes ranging to classic types: fighter thief wizard cleric to wacky stuff like pop star (a bard if you think about it) a cook a tank (your literally a tank) flower scientist (who literally hacks the game world to make things happen) a imp devil like thing and cat exists too two hidden post game classes exist too elves (bow magic hippies) and vampire (pretty cool wish i had this earlier) if they could work any of these classes into smash that might make miis more stylish
Endershock1678 i mean there is source material and stuff and if you look for it there is miitopa music in the other section of the game battle 1 and battle 2 and the final boss theme so they know it exists
"There are many better Sword Characters in Smash Ultimate" Me, a person that mains Mii Swordfighter: Crying in how Slash Launcher in Smash 4 got replaced by Gale Stab
@@egon3705 Slash Launcher is actually viable as a sideways recovery option and doesn't send you falling off the stage to your death It's been a while since I've played ultimate, but the last time I played i'm pretty sure I used Gale Stab and fell off the stage to my inevitable doom (the last time i played was right before i made this comment)
I honestly wanted more types of miis. Like an archer or magician or something. That would be cool as hell. Imagine the speed of brawler, disjoints of a sword, and zoning of gunner for the archer. And the combos of brawler, disjoints of sword and zoning of gunner for magician but they are good as hell
@@mixd1738 Then make a projectile based combo fighter like the various Links for an archer that has a short ranged dagger for close combat so also combining aspects like Greninja and Sheik.
Mii gunner is actually one of my mains, even before sans and Cuphead, I like characters who are mainly projectile based fighters or ones who have some projectiles. If you're wondering, I main Pikachu, Villager, Mii gunner, Inkling and Incineroar.
@@__DinoCharge__ Incineroar doesn't HAVE a projectile. He's a slow mf that wants to land Revenge so he can kill you at 0% with his exclusively melee moves or his command grab
I miss the old brawler, about 7 months after smash ultimate came out I saw my Wii U gathering dust and I decided to play smash 4, I got into brawler and he was awesome, especially his lead ups to uppercut. But like most marriges ( or lighters without gasoline) the spark was gone, in smash ultimate .
I go 1313 for Brawler. Shot Put is very strong despite its limited range and is versatile as well as killing at decent percentages. Suplex is self-explanatory. Soaring Axe Kick is the most versatile and powerful up special IMO. It covers decent vertical distance and can kill. Head-on Assault is like suicide but the enemy dies first. Can Lead to crazy kills
I swear, if different sizes for the fighters came back, the playerbase for miis would go up. They wouldn’t skyrocket to the top, but it would be noticeable. Plus, the whole point of Miis is customization, so removing it never really made sense in the first place.
Note on Gunner's Neutral B 3: You can move left and right with it in the air, making it to where you can carpet bomb the stage. Set up correctly near ledge to where the grenades fall down off the ledge, it can be an edgegaurd comparable or even better than Ness' yo-yo on ledge
I'd argue it's even better, because you can move up slightly to cause the grenades to fall slightly below ledge and hit most characters without a teleport or invincible recovery on the way up. Another note on Neutral B 3, it's one of the moves in the game that's a combo starter on block. It's +10 if you hit it on shield, which directly combos into a dash grab which leads into some insane juggling.
"Mii is a feature on the switch that many switch owners ignore" When I first got my switch I also got smash but the first thing I did was create a Mii lol
@PYM PIK I prefer Gunner, he has by far the most terrifying juggling game which can be chained into by his grab. Your enemy thinks they know what to expect (zoning), then I run up while they are shielding Grenade Launch, dash grab, do an up throw up air, fast fall it, up tilt up air, fast fall it, up tilt juggling up air, and next thing you know, you either got 0-Deathed, or somehow got off stage and have to deal with me mashing B on ledge.
Also nado up b is only sometimes a kill confirm depending on position, as the oppont can often airdodge out. Also they can sdi out of the last hit of up b, which is sad
@@Nick-oy9cf all of his airials are frame 10 and slower, not to mention bair doesn't kill that soon when compared to other bairs. The soft chakram is a good kill move, tho it's gimmicky and it doesn't work on his hardest mu's, literally anyone with a decent reflector
ninja11 it’s pretty unlikely to sdi out unless the sword fighter drifts back during the up b in an attempt to make it back to ledge. Yes, close range nado doesn’t confirm but it’s not much of a problem in my opinion because it’s not practical at close range anyway
There's no way that Flame Pillar is better than Arkfire. Arkfire has a larger hitbox, grants discards, can combo into way more options, and can perform Galeforce, one of the spiciest combos out there.
I’m fairly sure the three are meant to counter eachother, sword fighter is great against gunner, brawler is good against swordfighter, gunner is good against brawler
I think mostly it comes down to specials. Brawler and Swordfighter kind of have a definitive "best set" of special moves, but with gunner there isn't really a wrong answer (except laser blaze)
I just wish they made all their options more viable. I feel like they did the best with gunner in terms of having multiple viable options and the worst with swordfighter where you absolutely have to use certain specials like gale and chakram to be relevant.
Undoubtedly tornado and chakras are good, and probably the best specials for sword fighter, but shuriken and airborne assault are solid if you want a more spammable zoning tool or want a better recovery. The up b's are really just personal preference for if you want vertical recovery, kill confirms and out of shield, or general recovery. All the Down b's are all pretty useful too In their own right.
should be added that neutral option two for brawler can mix up for recoveries since it stalls you in the air, it also makes you invincible while going through the animation after it connects
Stone scabbard can also hit people hanging from the ledge meaning you could rotate it to make up for hero spin’s recovery and Gale strike’s... slowness, and rotate Gale Strike for Shuriken. After all there is way more kill options for Mii sword fighter then a string combo that doesn’t always work at the price of two move slots.
This is hilarious because in the proguides tier list mii brawler is the highest it shows how uncoordinated and uninformed it doesnt help the stereotype that youtube video sponsors arent that good
one quick thing i wanna mention and i don't play this game competitively but is very nice to know, on mii brawler, flashing mach punch for neutral special is a pretty good choice because it will knock enemies upwards at a decent strength and since a lot of mii brawlers combos and specials throw enemies upwards, flashing mach punch can be a great tool to use mid air to secure a kill
Tbh brawler is better. Yeah, Gunner has the range and Swordfighter has the combos, but whens the last time you saw any other mii besides brawler in a casual match? And..... *Soaring axe kick spikes and exploding side kick ledge guards are all I ever live for.*
Sigh... I guess I know what I'll have to do to play my most wished for characters. Swordfighter - Travis Touchdown Brawler - Shantae Gunner - ??? (if only the Tails costume wasn't so bad)
Feel so happy as a gunner main! Would love to watch a longer gunner video... hint hint. Things to talk about. Gunners grenades are the best lazy mans edge guarding tools. Most of her other smash moves are just better versions of Samus’s. While start up moves are slow, they chain quickly into follow up moves. Using forward air to recover is Crazy good, along with her heavy weight makes her hard to kill. Idk. Stuff like that.
I'm a Mii swordfighter main and I have a bit in tournament called pimp my sans where I let my opponent pick the bottom. My favorite is BOTW Sans. He's the secret final boss of BOTW 2, my uncle works at Nintendo
Lunar launch actually goes the farthest but the arm rocket has more flexibility with where you want it to land. Basically recovery versus movement. Sorry just had to add that in being a bi mii gunner main myself. (I main all 3 ironically enough)
I've actually been a Mii Gunner main since Smash 4, and have some good results under my belt in Ultimate. Feels good to finally get some recognition for existing lol.
Yeah. I do have to agree. Gunner is the best. And also, correction: lunar launch goes the most distance, not arm rocket. And brawler isn't that useless, he has really high damage output and great recovery along with amazing disadvantage in general.
Lunar launch only goes vertical tho but it can be a good edgdguard + good recovery; but arm rocket while it has no hitbox allows a wider area for gunner to use different edge guard tools
@@cassmoney3160 I know this, but pure distance wise, LL goes farther. I know how AR is way more versatile and better, but like I mean purely distance based
4:47 U can actually still kill at 0% with this move as a combo finisher. The combo in question is... D-Tilt, FAir, Helicopter Kick. Again this can kill at 0% even on Bowser!!!
Mii gunner is my personal pick, good at far and close range and has some pretty damaging attacks. Tbh all the mii fighters are pretty underrated, while I don’t use mii brawler and barley use mii sword fighter I know both of them are good. Also mii gunner has sans and cuphead costumes so it’s objectively the best
Some moves have better rage scaling like lucario. So onslaught will do a lot more knockback instead of a little, with rage. Also it caps at 150% but idk if onslaught caps at that damage.
You forgot to mention that Mii Gunner's Charge Shot hit under the ledge and that Gunner Missile is the strongest missile variant if you compare it to Samus and Dark Samus, as well as it has decent kill potential near the ledge at high percent. And Mii Brawlers Smash attacks kill super good! Specially Side Smash, it can kill pretty early.
Before the projectile nerfs patch in Smash it was Swordfighter. During that patch, they cut tornado to 2/3 its original distance. Chakram could no longer hit enemies hanging on the ledge, and its range was also nerfed. Tornado would also shield poke from a short hop on the third use. Also, swordfighter lacks any low % kill options. After the projectile nerfs, Sans is the best (I mean gunner). They have a good recovery, shield break options, ledge traps, and good zoning. Not to mention they have a few early kill options.
This is funny. Gunner was so much better before the nerfs. You literally couldn't shield against this character as like all of her projectiles had a lot of shield break potential, I know because it used to be a big tactic of mine if you sheild more than like 1 grenade you would get poked or a broken sheild.
I think Burning Dropkick was nerfed,I remember it having more charge and range. But,Mii Gunner is my favorite type. (Even long before it got more attention because of the unfunny meme skeleton and that sentient sippy cup.) Laser Blaze is essentially a better version of Fox's and Falco' blasters,it's spammy like Fox and makes opponents flinch,I enjoy using this as a means of being a little aggressive. Stealth Burst travels a very good distance,and it's very rewarding when you time the hit. Personally I think Mii Gunner is the best,it has essentially everything for a situation. Plus the default Mii has a lot of r34 so yeah another point for Mii Gunner lol... Mii Swordfighter is a close second,it's down air is pretty useful for interrupting attacks. I think Miis are much better now than they are in Sm4sh.
I wish Nintendo would make all the official mii’s be downloadable or added as dlc for purchase along with the costumes. So all you would have to do is customize the voice and the special moves. Not having to make miis from scratch to look like the accurate character they are suppose to be would just be amazing. I have the standard miis unlocked and made myself in all 3 types. That’s it though. I love the miis but I’d rather be playing smash rather than creating miis who look like who they’re suppose to be… If only… plus a lot of the times even if done as accurate as possible they still look terrible. I love this video! Very well done. The Mii gunner is my favorite.
i didn't use it much, but i kinda miss miiverse...gave a way to communicate better with people online
Better then Facebook
Now friend codes are useless unless you jave a local friend who plays the same console and games as you, other wise discord is the only way to play with someone not so random
@@jovannydiazabad6123 yeah, i agree. it's really hard to communicate with other players. i wish they'd add a feature or something
Ah, another example of "Nintendo should improve on their online features"
I’m so mad it got shut down
I was wondering if this is Keitairo until he said "catch one of these" XD
Same
I can relate
legend
I honestly thought the same
OrangeToadGamer 2005 hey there “I wish this song was in smash”
Ya know there can definitely be more mii fighter types
1 Mage/Sorcerer
2 Heavyweight
3 psi fighter like ness or Lucas or something like mewtwo
That’s pretty cool
i mean gunner is already kind of a wierd amalagamation of ness and samus
@@neexy9669 true
I want a joke option out of these
I'd say add some of the mii classes from Miitopia as potential classes. Or if not, add other mii fighters based on other archetypes, like a grappler character which is based on a combination of the Belmonts, Byleth, Samus, Min-Min, etc. Basically long ranged melee with long range grabs.
There could also be a heavyweight Mii Fighter like you suggested, based on Bowser, DK, King K Rool, etc. Maybe a lightweight character too.
Wait what!? KEITARO!? Thats sick!!
i was about to say "KEITARO????"
CATCH ONE OF THESE
AHA
Blue balls
oh no no
Gunner- Best neutral, edgetrapping.
Brawler- Best movement, disadvantage.
Swordie- Best confirms, Best advantage.
Yes but which combination of those things is the most viable?
@@flamo2666 IMO
Gunner 3333:
Neutral B- Grenade launcher is a braindead edgeguarding/trapping tool. 10 frames + on block (free grab) This move also trumps the usefulness of flame pillar, stealth burst and bomb drop.
Side B -Missiles control neutral and weaken shield and can be spammed relatively safe (have up tilt ready to anti air)
Up B- Arm rocket best recovery/landing mixup and can be used out of disadvantage. Really hard to punish on reaction.
-Vortex- safest OoS option can be used to wavebounce > fair boost. Can 2 frame, can gimp ppl that are doomed without their double jump.
Brawler- 2312
Neutral B- Flashing mac punch kills from 90 to 110 depending on rage, it punishes spot dodges and neutral getup. It's also a good platform pressure mixup when opp is afraid of getting command grabbed. (Shot put it's ok but is too slow and opp can avoid it on reaction)
Side B- Suplex is a command grab with a bit of armor, ridiculous damage (23%) and puts opp on top of you ready to get sharked with up airs or if they air dodge it, they will get ready to get scooped again. Best platform pressure. It's a mixup on the main stage too because you can dash attack or suplex them.
Up B- Soaring Axe kick- ridiculous range (more than cloud's up B) really good OoS. Can kill at 0 under the edge. Beats tethers if you run off stage and up b to the edge. Dumb knockback which will usually get opp off stage. Ppl have to respect you when you recover low or you can kamikazee. Best vertical recovery. Kills around 130% which is fair for move that is very easy to land. (Uppercut has some janky kill confirms but are inconsistent)
Down B- Feint jump is the best move out of disadvantage frame 2 inv. You can usually dj and down b to recover off stage safely through the top of the screen. Safe option OoS to not commit with up B. Divekick kills around 140%. Punishes zoners for throwing a projectile. Sneaky way to edgehog. Hard to punish on reaction. Good to time out fresh stock inv frames.
Swordfighter- Forgot the numbers but here it is.
Neutral B Gale Strike- free follow up & kill confirms (up air, hero spin, bair) 2 frames, stage control.
Side B- Chakrum- Gimps, controls neutral, free follow up and kill confirms (dash attack, f smash?)
Free grab if blocked (the slow 1)
Up B- Skyward slash- best recovery mixup. Decent vertical and horizontal range. Decent damage but hard to combo into. (Hero spin is a good kill confirm off of gale strike BUT it's an awful recovery.
Stone scabbard it's cool IF you always plan to recover low (predictable) which also makes you have to hold an edge trap.
Down B- Reversal Slash
Most ppl have projectiles in this game so of you're going in blind, u might as well have mario's cape. It breaks some reflectors after a ping pong exchange like palutena, pit and gunner. (Gunner dies at 0% if he gets a reflected smash missile) Counter sucks because of the knockback and power thrust is pretty much unreactable and kills around 130% so u can use it if ur opp does not have a projectile.
Axel Morales i completely agree with swordfighter because you don’t even need hero spin to do the gale strike confirm, up air works fine.
Axel Morales honestly, I’d switch gunner’s down B to bomb drop because it’s amazing for zoning, stage control, ledge trapping and edge guarding and in my opinion being able to gimp and 2 frame with vortex because you can already gimp with other moves such as neutral air, and because 2 framing with vortex isn’t that good. I’d then replace neutral B with charge shot because bomb drop does what grenade launch does and more.
Axel Morales I’m gonna be honest my reply didn’t wasn’t talking movesets it was asking, “yeah they may each have their own pros and cons but out of all of those which mii is overall the best. Your comment about movesets was the thing I never knew I needed.
Now we need a heavy mii and we have all main archetypes
How bout magic/psi users?
There are a bunch of characters that fight using magic and have insanely strong throws, like Mewtwo, Ness, Lucas, Zelda, etc
A wizard Mii would be cool
Mii Sumo Wrestler!
honestly the best way to improve the mii fighters is to introduce the Miitopia classes (miitopia is a game that sets the miis on a classic rpg adventure with a bunch of classes ranging to classic types:
fighter
thief
wizard
cleric
to wacky stuff like
pop star (a bard if you think about it)
a cook
a tank (your literally a tank)
flower
scientist (who literally hacks the game world to make things happen)
a imp devil like thing
and cat exists too
two hidden post game classes exist too elves (bow magic hippies)
and vampire (pretty cool wish i had this earlier)
if they could work any of these classes into smash that might make miis more stylish
@@gabbychan6609 What if for Fighter's Pass 2, the final DLC is several Mii Archetypes like you suggested. That would be sick. Hard to do but sick.
Endershock1678 i mean there is source material and stuff and if you look for it there is miitopa music in the other section of the game battle 1 and battle 2 and the final boss theme so they know it exists
Mii Swordfighter is the most slept on character imo
Bruh, most of his sets are well known now, and aside from that he lacks range other swordies have and the lack of good combo tools
@@some_yeast8267 Chakram, gale slash are two very powerful combo tools that double as spacing tools
Yeah there my main and fix up b!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed
@@some_yeast8267 bro all his attacks are just about controlling the stage and your enemies moves. How is this weak
MII FIGHTERS, RISE UP! ✊
YES
ME TOO
✊️
SAME YO
Yes. It's time for my persona!
(My mii fighter's name is persona)
My wife and I are gonna use this to sort out our differences now since we can play as ourselves 😁
HMMMMMMMMM
69th like LOL
We need more Keitaro!
Cause none can catch these, if you what I'm saying
*if you what I'm saying*
I what you saying.
Oh god I now know what you’re sayin
"There are many better Sword Characters in Smash Ultimate"
Me, a person that mains Mii Swordfighter: Crying in how Slash Launcher in Smash 4 got replaced by Gale Stab
they're the same move
@@egon3705 Slash Launcher is actually viable as a sideways recovery option and doesn't send you falling off the stage to your death
It's been a while since I've played ultimate, but the last time I played i'm pretty sure I used Gale Stab and fell off the stage to my inevitable doom (the last time i played was right before i made this comment)
I honestly wanted more types of miis. Like an archer or magician or something. That would be cool as hell.
Imagine the speed of brawler, disjoints of a sword, and zoning of gunner for the archer. And the combos of brawler, disjoints of sword and zoning of gunner for magician but they are good as hell
The mage would definitely have a Death Note magic book
Also, there’s no Mii for heavyweights, which could have a lot of potential
Lmao swordfighter already has all the zoning he needs
@@mixd1738 Then make a projectile based combo fighter like the various Links for an archer that has a short ranged dagger for close combat so also combining aspects like Greninja and Sheik.
Mii gunner is actually one of my mains, even before sans and Cuphead, I like characters who are mainly projectile based fighters or ones who have some projectiles.
If you're wondering, I main Pikachu, Villager, Mii gunner, Inkling and Incineroar.
Villager is cool
All cancer
"Mainly projectile based fighters."
"Incineroar"
@@watermelongaming3698 Mainly doesn't automatically mean *only.*
@@__DinoCharge__ Incineroar doesn't HAVE a projectile. He's a slow mf that wants to land Revenge so he can kill you at 0% with his exclusively melee moves or his command grab
I miss the old brawler, about 7 months after smash ultimate came out I saw my Wii U gathering dust and I decided to play smash 4, I got into brawler and he was awesome, especially his lead ups to uppercut.
But like most marriges ( or lighters without gasoline) the spark was gone, in smash ultimate .
I agree give us the old Mii brawler back
Everyone: *talking about keitaro*
Me: lmao he's using Mario as the dummy
When I first saw mii gunner I was like: it's megaman time
Me: Cries in Swordfighter
Pick ur head up king, your gamer headsets falling
*coughs* "Mii"
Mii Brawler is one of my mains because I like putting myself, or Tifa, in the game and I go 2212 for his specials. Any other Brawlers in chat?
Trevor Sreya don’t main Brawler but I do have a lot of fun playing them!
I go 1313 for Brawler.
Shot Put is very strong despite its limited range and is versatile as well as killing at decent percentages. Suplex is self-explanatory.
Soaring Axe Kick is the most versatile and powerful up special IMO. It covers decent vertical distance and can kill.
Head-on Assault is like suicide but the enemy dies first. Can Lead to crazy kills
@@dantedelarocha mine is SayGoodbye
Cool, former 1212 main, now 2312 and 2333 main
@Average Deltarune Enjoyer Well, both Tifa and Gunner have a cowgirl outfit, so it doesn't not count.
Now we're getting down to the REAL questions!
I swear, if different sizes for the fighters came back, the playerbase for miis would go up. They wouldn’t skyrocket to the top, but it would be noticeable. Plus, the whole point of Miis is customization, so removing it never really made sense in the first place.
Thank you for saying that, mii friend.
They would probably get banned of tournaments and online again
They got banned because the small size was really busted
The one in the MONSTER HUNTER SKIN! come on big N, gimme back my sword fighter skin :(
How about a monster hunter instead
😳
Note on Gunner's Neutral B 3: You can move left and right with it in the air, making it to where you can carpet bomb the stage. Set up correctly near ledge to where the grenades fall down off the ledge, it can be an edgegaurd comparable or even better than Ness' yo-yo on ledge
I'd argue it's even better, because you can move up slightly to cause the grenades to fall slightly below ledge and hit most characters without a teleport or invincible recovery on the way up. Another note on Neutral B 3, it's one of the moves in the game that's a combo starter on block. It's +10 if you hit it on shield, which directly combos into a dash grab which leads into some insane juggling.
Yeah, Gunner’s my 2nd best character and Grenade Launcher is THE BEST BY FAR.
"Mii is a feature on the switch that many switch owners ignore"
When I first got my switch I also got smash but the first thing I did was create a Mii lol
My favorite is Mii Brawler!
I'm just into aggressive characters like Roy, Chrom, or Fox.
Although I'm also into using Game and Watch and Mewtwo.
@PYM PIK same
I find it sad how the Mii Gunner is completely overshadowed by those skins.
@@MightyMobileMatt yeah dude. I was one of the few mii gunner's before the sans, then a bunch more started showing up.
my favorites are all 3
@PYM PIK I prefer Gunner, he has by far the most terrifying juggling game which can be chained into by his grab. Your enemy thinks they know what to expect (zoning), then I run up while they are shielding Grenade Launch, dash grab, do an up throw up air, fast fall it, up tilt up air, fast fall it, up tilt juggling up air, and next thing you know, you either got 0-Deathed, or somehow got off stage and have to deal with me mashing B on ledge.
"Who do you think is the best Mii?"
Mii (haha), who mains them all : Yes.
Also nado up b is only sometimes a kill confirm depending on position, as the oppont can often airdodge out. Also they can sdi out of the last hit of up b, which is sad
Imo up b 3 isnt worth it
@@chrispo7610 it is sadly. Hero spin and up air are the only 2 kill moves he has
@@tyler9425 he also has back air. And he has chackram set ups that lead to smash attacks
@@Nick-oy9cf all of his airials are frame 10 and slower, not to mention bair doesn't kill that soon when compared to other bairs. The soft chakram is a good kill move, tho it's gimmicky and it doesn't work on his hardest mu's, literally anyone with a decent reflector
ninja11 it’s pretty unlikely to sdi out unless the sword fighter drifts back during the up b in an attempt to make it back to ledge. Yes, close range nado doesn’t confirm but it’s not much of a problem in my opinion because it’s not practical at close range anyway
i find it so funny how now the list is basically reversed (i almost started laughing during the summary part)
Literally
3:05 wait is this keitairo talking???
Yeah it is keitaro
There's no way that Flame Pillar is better than Arkfire. Arkfire has a larger hitbox, grants discards, can combo into way more options, and can perform Galeforce, one of the spiciest combos out there.
I’m fairly sure the three are meant to counter eachother, sword fighter is great against gunner, brawler is good against swordfighter, gunner is good against brawler
Wait, who is Mii Gunner? Is that an alternative custome for Sans?
Ouch that hurt to read
Cries in Cuphead
@@cassmoney3160 you a mii gunner main too?
Because that hurt me too...
Video Central 1234 yuh
Is this Keitaro?
NilsManh1337 idk
Yes
Yep, confirmed after the "catch one of these" and his laugh
You thibk
YES I FUCKING LOVE KEITARO
I think mostly it comes down to specials. Brawler and Swordfighter kind of have a definitive "best set" of special moves, but with gunner there isn't really a wrong answer (except laser blaze)
I honestly believe the Miis are equal, but I’m team Swordfighter all the way, I wish he got more representation.
ye i love mashing with him and just dominating
I like brawler and his spikes
"mii gunner is the best" "mii brawler is the worst" that didn't age well
4 months ago: Oh yes Keitaro!
Now: Oh no, Keitaro!
I like Mii Brawler a lot because you can do an up special as a follow up after the final smash
Mii Gunner has some THICC side smash range
Brawler are you kidding
Feint jump turns brawler into an actual character
I love Creating an Avatar, In Super Smash Bros., Monster Hunter and many other games!
I just wish they made all their options more viable. I feel like they did the best with gunner in terms of having multiple viable options and the worst with swordfighter where you absolutely have to use certain specials like gale and chakram to be relevant.
Undoubtedly tornado and chakras are good, and probably the best specials for sword fighter, but shuriken and airborne assault are solid if you want a more spammable zoning tool or want a better recovery. The up b's are really just personal preference for if you want vertical recovery, kill confirms and out of shield, or general recovery. All the Down b's are all pretty useful too In their own right.
should be added that neutral option two for brawler can mix up for recoveries since it stalls you in the air, it also makes you invincible while going through the animation after it connects
Stone scabbard can also hit people hanging from the ledge meaning you could rotate it to make up for hero spin’s recovery and Gale strike’s... slowness, and rotate Gale Strike for Shuriken. After all there is way more kill options for Mii sword fighter then a string combo that doesn’t always work at the price of two move slots.
Why is Mii Brawler the same tier as Little Mac on your website?
I miss the Ultimate Uppercut special from Smash 4, it was such a good move.
It was
This is hilarious because in the proguides tier list mii brawler is the highest it shows how uncoordinated and uninformed it doesnt help the stereotype that youtube video sponsors arent that good
Mii Brawler : *exists.*
Pro Players talking to others : *Hey do you want an apple juice with your grave ?*
0:10 the point is to see joseph joestar fighting against sans :V
Uy un papulince
one quick thing i wanna mention and i don't play this game competitively but is very nice to know, on mii brawler, flashing mach punch for neutral special is a pretty good choice because it will knock enemies upwards at a decent strength and since a lot of mii brawlers combos and specials throw enemies upwards, flashing mach punch can be a great tool to use mid air to secure a kill
Finally a speaker that isn't obnoxiously annoying and doesn't make me shut the video in 10 seconds. Brilliant voice and humor.
Once a brawler main always a brawler main
I just loved making mii.
Tbh brawler is better. Yeah, Gunner has the range and Swordfighter has the combos, but whens the last time you saw any other mii besides brawler in a casual match? And.....
*Soaring axe kick spikes and exploding side kick ledge guards are all I ever live for.*
If you don't know where the Mii fighters came from, you legally should not have a switch
Sigh... I guess I know what I'll have to do to play my most wished for characters.
Swordfighter - Travis Touchdown
Brawler - Shantae
Gunner - ??? (if only the Tails costume wasn't so bad)
a h e m
DS was the origin of miis I think
I just love Mii Brawler's iron ball.
Love anything with my favorite mains in it. But especially this vid great job man, good content 👏
Feel so happy as a gunner main!
Would love to watch a longer gunner video... hint hint.
Things to talk about. Gunners grenades are the best lazy mans edge guarding tools. Most of her other smash moves are just better versions of Samus’s. While start up moves are slow, they chain quickly into follow up moves. Using forward air to recover is Crazy good, along with her heavy weight makes her hard to kill. Idk. Stuff like that.
Mii gunner just throws tou off stage and grenade goes boom
"has issues grabbing the ledge"
Sakurai dropping the Kazuya update: are you sure about that?
Now my question is... how do I get your mii on the fighter?
Brawler there we are done
I'm a Mii swordfighter main and I have a bit in tournament called pimp my sans where I let my opponent pick the bottom. My favorite is BOTW Sans. He's the secret final boss of BOTW 2, my uncle works at Nintendo
Lunar launch actually goes the farthest but the arm rocket has more flexibility with where you want it to land. Basically recovery versus movement. Sorry just had to add that in being a bi mii gunner main myself. (I main all 3 ironically enough)
lol you chose mii gunner because she is a counterpick character. fuckin great logic
I've actually been a Mii Gunner main since Smash 4, and have some good results under my belt in Ultimate. Feels good to finally get some recognition for existing lol.
Yeah. I do have to agree. Gunner is the best. And also, correction: lunar launch goes the most distance, not arm rocket. And brawler isn't that useless, he has really high damage output and great recovery along with amazing disadvantage in general.
Lunar launch only goes vertical tho but it can be a good edgdguard + good recovery; but arm rocket while it has no hitbox allows a wider area for gunner to use different edge guard tools
@@cassmoney3160 I know this, but pure distance wise, LL goes farther. I know how AR is way more versatile and better, but like I mean purely distance based
I love the mii brawler because I'm literally the laughing emoji. Joyers rise up.
Ima be fair, I knew the Miis Before Mario
Video starts at 10:36
1:27 How did that kill
4:47 U can actually still kill at 0% with this move as a combo finisher. The combo in question is...
D-Tilt, FAir, Helicopter Kick.
Again this can kill at 0% even on Bowser!!!
Mii gunner is my personal pick, good at far and close range and has some pretty damaging attacks. Tbh all the mii fighters are pretty underrated, while I don’t use mii brawler and barley use mii sword fighter I know both of them are good.
Also mii gunner has sans and cuphead costumes so it’s objectively the best
3:53 this happens with every move and it caps out at about 200% it’s called rage
Some moves have better rage scaling like lucario. So onslaught will do a lot more knockback instead of a little, with rage. Also it caps at 150% but idk if onslaught caps at that damage.
Mii's tornado move is a nightmare for any character without teleportation or projectiles. It sets the opponent up for a perfect combo.
I thought I was smoking crack when I heard Keitairo
mii brawler dressed as steve harvey is the best mii brawler but only dressed as steve harvey
You forgot to mention that Mii Gunner's Charge Shot hit under the ledge and that Gunner Missile is the strongest missile variant if you compare it to Samus and Dark Samus, as well as it has decent kill potential near the ledge at high percent. And Mii Brawlers Smash attacks kill super good! Specially Side Smash, it can kill pretty early.
10:55
My boy Schnigily with the shoutout 😍
I have never seen a Mii move so fluidly in my life
Before the projectile nerfs patch in Smash it was Swordfighter. During that patch, they cut tornado to 2/3 its original distance. Chakram could no longer hit enemies hanging on the ledge, and its range was also nerfed. Tornado would also shield poke from a short hop on the third use. Also, swordfighter lacks any low % kill options.
After the projectile nerfs, Sans is the best (I mean gunner). They have a good recovery, shield break options, ledge traps, and good zoning. Not to mention they have a few early kill options.
This is funny. Gunner was so much better before the nerfs. You literally couldn't shield against this character as like all of her projectiles had a lot of shield break potential, I know because it used to be a big tactic of mine if you sheild more than like 1 grenade you would get poked or a broken sheild.
I'm from the Future (A year Ahead) And They've Buffed Nicely
Keitaro let's go
Watching iwata and reggie ora oraing is just bliss
« The unique costumes made for mii gunner »
You mean she copied sans’ moveset so sans mains can pick her up?
could someone please tell me what is the most used Set Up of each mii please🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I think Burning Dropkick was nerfed,I remember it having more charge and range.
But,Mii Gunner is my favorite type. (Even long before it got more attention because of the unfunny meme skeleton and that sentient sippy cup.)
Laser Blaze is essentially a better version of Fox's and Falco' blasters,it's spammy like Fox and makes opponents flinch,I enjoy using this as a means of being a little aggressive.
Stealth Burst travels a very good distance,and it's very rewarding when you time the hit.
Personally I think Mii Gunner is the best,it has essentially everything for a situation.
Plus the default Mii has a lot of r34 so yeah another point for Mii Gunner lol...
Mii Swordfighter is a close second,it's down air is pretty useful for interrupting attacks.
I think Miis are much better now than they are in Sm4sh.
7:19 "Stone Scuh-BARD"
I love playing Mii Gunner, thanks for making this video!
My Favourite Characters. For no reasons because yes.
Sanshead is the best Mii fighter
Brawlers counter is insanely powerful
The sword fighter is my main tornado, hero spin, counter, chacrem
I wish Nintendo would make all the official mii’s be downloadable or added as dlc for purchase along with the costumes. So all you would have to do is customize the voice and the special moves. Not having to make miis from scratch to look like the accurate character they are suppose to be would just be amazing. I have the standard miis unlocked and made myself in all 3 types. That’s it though. I love the miis but I’d rather be playing smash rather than creating miis who look like who they’re suppose to be… If only… plus a lot of the times even if done as accurate as possible they still look terrible. I love this video! Very well done. The Mii gunner is my favorite.
"they think it's gunner. I think it's brawler." you don't think it's brawler, you KNOW it's brawler.
All miis are strong if you made the apropriate specials to them
In my opinion they need to add more specials
I main mii swordsfighhter because he was one of the first characters in the world of light
was that keitairo?
Actually if you ask most mii users, you will get brawler as an answer for best mii due to his kit, jank, and nuetral game (other factors too obv)