Every DLC Character's Worst Matchup In Smash Bros. Ultimate

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    I went through many top players match up charts/tier lists to work out every single characters worst match up in smash ultimate. This means the character that is the best at defeating another character.
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  • @SnorMatt
    @SnorMatt ปีที่แล้ว +455

    Every character's Best Matchup next, take a shot every time you say Ganondorf

    • @tiermaster1357
      @tiermaster1357 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Or Little Mac

    • @nightey975
      @nightey975 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Or Donkey Kong

    • @MrMotoShark
      @MrMotoShark ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I got a buz just reading this. And I don't even drink🤦‍♂️

    • @Ganonussyszestygorillagrip
      @Ganonussyszestygorillagrip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His liver would be crying

    • @meinman7591
      @meinman7591 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think that many shots would kill even the irish-

  • @Pallabon1
    @Pallabon1 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    0:29 Piranha Plant
    1:25 Joker
    2:46 Hero
    3:53 Banjo & Kazooie
    4:57 Terry
    6:00 Byleth
    7:35 Minmin
    8:54 Steve
    11:34 Sephiroth
    13:08 Pyra/Mythra
    15:03 Kazuya
    16:08 Sora

    • @Matze_Abi
      @Matze_Abi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you

    • @Nyxatos
      @Nyxatos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The G.O.A.T ♥️

    • @konkurer775
      @konkurer775 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Piranha Plant - G&W
      Joker - Sonic
      Hero - Greninja
      B&K - Olimar
      Terry - Shulk
      Byleth - pikachu
      MinMin - Sheik
      Steve - Sonic
      Sephiroth - Sheik
      P/M - Diddy Kong
      Kazuya - Sonic
      Sora - Diddy Kong

    • @survivorofthecurse717
      @survivorofthecurse717 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@konkurer775This most definitely did not age well for Hero

    • @SylvainJoseGautier-
      @SylvainJoseGautier- 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@konkurer775Diddy Kong for Pyra? Really?

  • @samuraienjoyer9981
    @samuraienjoyer9981 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    My biggest takeaway from this series of videos: Jordan mains a character that is almost half the cast's worst match-up.

    • @k-leb4671
      @k-leb4671 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Strategy!

    • @DragonMaster1818
      @DragonMaster1818 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Steve is basically the other half

  • @AnimeToons
    @AnimeToons ปีที่แล้ว +160

    That’s my piranha plant being destroyed by Maister 👀😂

    • @kirb1128
      @kirb1128 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      lmao good job even going to tournaments im too scared

    • @Wario_B
      @Wario_B ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You played plant against maister, you deserve a medal

    • @fanboyofanimation6097
      @fanboyofanimation6097 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your a good piranha plant player

  • @oakijak7387
    @oakijak7387 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Villager is a worse mu for plant, pocketing the ball completely defuses plants gameplan and villager can happily camp an approaching plant

    • @meesironman
      @meesironman ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Villager and Isabelle are fing terrible for plant. They just nullify his only good move

    • @DaColoniza
      @DaColoniza ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I ran I to a good villager after I got my plant into elite smash and he damn near made me quit playing plant

    • @cxrtrr
      @cxrtrr ปีที่แล้ว +17

      the thing with villager being bad matchups is that villager is just a horrendous character in general and at a top level, g&w is more invalidating

    • @chompmastr7103
      @chompmastr7103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this also happens with banjo but for a lesser degree. if u pocket the grenade, it completly nullifies it which is his main advantage state starter.

    • @gmwes
      @gmwes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      true, sadly. very specific but very bad for plant

  • @Splonton
    @Splonton ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Moral of the story: Sonic may be annoying and boring, but he's a necessary evil to keep the dlc in check

    • @RealBroccoliHour
      @RealBroccoliHour ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imo an aggressive Sonic who doesn’t even let you breathe is not boring at all, there’s more than one way to play that character

    • @Splonton
      @Splonton ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RealBroccoliHour yeah, but objectively the most efficient way to play him is campy, so people in tournament do that instead

    • @RealBroccoliHour
      @RealBroccoliHour ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Splonton That’s not objective. Sonic’s rushdown game is just as good as his “campiness”, because the character itself basically has no unviable options. That’s why Sonic is a valid contender for best character in the game for a lot of people

    • @Splonton
      @Splonton ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RealBroccoliHour no it really isn't. The reason his camping playstyle is just objectively more viable is because the vast majority of characters have no answer to it. There's nothing they can do unless the sonic screws something up. With the rushdown style yeah it's still good, but more characters have a solution to being rushed down than being camped out

    • @RealBroccoliHour
      @RealBroccoliHour ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Splonton Sonic’s rushdown is just as good as his camping mainly because of invincible moves like Spin dash and all of its conversions, that’s the whole reason it’s used as a camping tool to begin with. An actually good aggressive Sonic is literally just as oppressive.

  • @santiagoherrera1853
    @santiagoherrera1853 ปีที่แล้ว +572

    If Rex was in smash bros, he would definitely be Pyra and Mythra's worst matchup, cause he would be able to smash them both in ultimate and canonically

    • @maximeminassian6002
      @maximeminassian6002 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      This f-ing picture at the end of 3 💀

    • @sonounapersonasulweb007
      @sonounapersonasulweb007 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Bruh💀💀💀💀

    • @_SSCJ
      @_SSCJ ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Pyra and mythra mains wish they were rex

    • @Xenowolf8
      @Xenowolf8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I knew this comment was inevitable

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Xenoblade 2 sucks

  • @Krona-fb4dn
    @Krona-fb4dn ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Honestly find Shulk's MUs rather interesting. He has a lot of favorable matchups against the new DLC (Steve, Terry, Kazuya, probably some others I'm missing) but Shulk tends to struggle hard against the traditional top tiers, like Palu, Snake, and Pikachu, and he goes even or losing against a lot of swordies.

    • @6eyedbird
      @6eyedbird ปีที่แล้ว +7

      he has crazy disjointed range for dealing with slow and hard hitting characters like Steve and kazuya but fast characters like pika run circles around him
      edit: also if I had to guess, pika can edgeguard shulk pretty easily
      like if the character does to swords, he kinda exemplifies the strengths and weaknesses of swordies to the max with arts and his stats

    • @RushWheeler
      @RushWheeler ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shulk only exists to be the DLC slayer lmao

    • @seviyasouji
      @seviyasouji ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure why some believe the Pikachu and Shulk matchup is favorable for Pika. It’s even imo

    • @Krona-fb4dn
      @Krona-fb4dn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@seviyasouji Mostly just a question of if Shulk can keep pikachu out, but pikachu has a good projectile and a very fast speed so shulk has to approach, and shulk thrives off of edgeguard kills, which is hard to do against Pikachu.

  • @d.a.d.-ohgosh
    @d.a.d.-ohgosh ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I'm a Sephiroth main. I agree that Sheik is pretty rough, but Pikachu is also ridiculously hard for him. Maybe more so. People think of Sephiroth as a slow spacing machine but one factor that is also tough is that a lot of his moves are precision. Really it's only his up-air, forward-tilt, and up-smash that don't require precision. Sort of Neutral-B too but that's just a different thing altogether. Landing meaningful hits on Pika is so hard. Not to mention that Seph is amazing at ledge trapping and solid at edge guards. That strength is pretty much nullified by Pika's total lack of disadvantage. I know Pika is a very generic bad match up but hot damn is he hard for this character. He's definitely got a few bad ones but probably the next worst is Sonic.

    • @marcmothersole8265
      @marcmothersole8265 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pikachu isn't that bad once you really learn it, I think Tweek even put Sephiroth as winning. Personally I would recommend using Scintilla to counter Pikachu's up-B and neutral-B, as well as using orbs to nullify his neutral-B approaches. Nair is also helpful in this matchup, it is hard to learn at first but completely doable, don't worry!

    • @d.a.d.-ohgosh
      @d.a.d.-ohgosh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marcmothersole8265 That surprises me a lot that Tweek put him as winning! I appreciate the encouragement! Honestly I actually do have a solid grasp on the match up with both Pika and Sheik. I can win against both for sure. But I've found that generally true in my experience. There's no match up where I feel like they're unbeatable with Seph. Against Pika what I've done that helps is use shield only to parry T-Jolt and focus on maintaining control with Shadow Flare and good spacing with Scintilla to catch Quick Attack and other burst options (sparingly). Luckily Seph has no problem with kill moves so after a little control just landing an F-Tilt or b-air tends to do the trick. Still a good Pika will use his small hurt box and pancaking to evade very effectively but with minimal effort. Maybe I can reevaluate the match up though and see it in Seph's favor!

    • @marcmothersole8265
      @marcmothersole8265 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@d.a.d.-ohgosh bair doesnt hit pika easily, but you can use fair to poke him offstage, or retreating up air to cover air approaches. Both of these moves are easier to hit small characters with. T-Jolt approach doesn't work as like you said, Scintilla will fuck him up for trying it, AND side B goes through the t-jolt and nullifies it. You can kill Pika with up airs, catch him in shield with d smash, catch him grounded with f-tilts or get a bair read. A reliable method is to knock him offstage (fair is easy to do this with) and then edgegaurd or ledgetrap, if he tries to skip either phase by just quick attacking past you, Scintilla will activate and kill him. NOTE: Scintilla will NOT activate on Pichu's quick attack as it has no hitbox, making it significantly easier for him to get past you. The only matchup I think is REALLY bad for Sephiroth is Joker, I play Aegis for Joker because any good Joker player will never lose to you in this mu, unless you are miles better than them (just being miles better than people is not a reliable tournament winning strategy). Sheik is reliably winnable but definitely favours Sheik. Good luck and have fun bringing despair to Smash.

    • @goosnavslakovic4908
      @goosnavslakovic4908 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​@@marcmothersole8265 don't think tweek has played very many top level pikas with seph. It's crazy how your opinion can change depending who you play.
      Pika can low profile most of seph's aerials, which is a huge problem for him. Speed and T Jolt of course make neutral pretty difficult even if orbs intercept t jolt.
      Coupled with the fact he could get edgeguarded pretty hard by pika, and is tall and incredibly light, it's pretty rough. He also can't camp on ledge because of Tjolt. Meaning it's really hard to adjust to the disadvantage.

    • @elzar5987
      @elzar5987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As another sephiroth main yeah I agree. Skeik is bad, but pika is worse for all the reasons you listed

  • @superbigtime
    @superbigtime ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Greninja being the standout Hero counter is by far one of the weirdest and unexpected matchups. I didn't expect Greninja to be _anyone's_ worst matchup.

    • @robofistsrevenge3288
      @robofistsrevenge3288 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Greninja over here channeling Frog from Chrono Trigger, seeking revenge for DQ taking his game's spot.

    • @mrwrigh
      @mrwrigh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This list is straight up wrong Hero does not lose to Greninja in fact it's the complete opposite as he destroys Greninja

    • @meinman7591
      @meinman7591 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mrwrighthen who destroys hero

    • @mrwrigh
      @mrwrigh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@meinman7591 unironically Hero himself at worst and realistically maybe Pikachu

    • @meinman7591
      @meinman7591 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a character O don't have and a character that dies to a lucky fsmash... fml

  • @thepaintingbanjo8894
    @thepaintingbanjo8894 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have a newfound respect for Sonic players.

    • @itsyaboijay073
      @itsyaboijay073 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you very much good sir

    • @benjimiguel17
      @benjimiguel17 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      id still rather watch steve and kazuya over sonic

  • @jesskady1585
    @jesskady1585 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Watching the gameplay of Sonic's spin dash just going right through minecart like 50 times: Yup, this has to be Steve's worst matchup

    • @wilk3425
      @wilk3425 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a Sonic main, I was like, "..... That's genius! I never thought of that!" - also ngl, I'm hyped that Sonic tops Steve 🙌😆

  • @lava_masq4432
    @lava_masq4432 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    you know how painful it is, playing _3 different characters_ and having _ALL_ of their worst MU be Diddy?
    that chimp lives in my goddamn nightmares....

    • @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear
      @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try picking up Rosalina, stealing the banana with down b is always a pleasure :)

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pick up Steve then

    • @TheSharkAnt
      @TheSharkAnt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Duck Hunt supposedly does well against Diddy Kong.

  • @jonbeecee
    @jonbeecee ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Now someone's gotta make a comprehensive chart showing all these worst matchups in one place

  • @SaulTeeNutz
    @SaulTeeNutz ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I play both Kazuya and Ganondorf. Min Min is abysmal in general, considering her arms (obviously) keep them away, because that’s what both characters want. It sucks, but that’s how it just goes.

    • @dempseyt4976
      @dempseyt4976 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gannon definitely, but kazuya is able to get hits that are meaningful on min min. It's hard to get in, but he kills min min when he gets in. Plus Kazuya has gates of hell

    • @SaulTeeNutz
      @SaulTeeNutz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dempseyt4976 yeah, the angle on that move has always been disgusting lmao.

    • @dempseyt4976
      @dempseyt4976 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SaulTeeNutz MU still bad for Kazuya, but it's not unwinnable, it's just difficult. Sonic actually looks unwinnable at top level

    • @juliamedina3322
      @juliamedina3322 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do think Sonic is a worse matchup for Kazuya, but as someone who plays Min Min a lot, I agree that Kazuya feels like a pretty chill matchup. I rarely struggle against him. It's not free, but I agree that Min Min is very, very difficult for Kazuya.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@juliamedina3322 Basically characters with opressive neutrals are the ones who can win against Kazuya. Pikachu and Sheik feel like a -1, Min-Min is a -2 while Sonic is a -3. Meanwhile Kazuya wins against almost everything who doesn't have immaculate neutral game. Kazuya is basically the most polarizing character in smash.

  • @missingno.4374
    @missingno.4374 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I just just absolutely love the analysis type videos.

  • @davidvilla1247
    @davidvilla1247 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Moral of the story
    Don’t ban Steve from tournaments
    Bring more sonics 🤣

  • @Nick0tine3
    @Nick0tine3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love these informative videos! A video showcasing the ways characters can play vs different matchups would make for a good series

  • @pyromaniac000000
    @pyromaniac000000 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how like 75% of worst matchups are steve, shulk, game and watch, sonic and diddy.

  • @flyingtree12
    @flyingtree12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Steve’s worst MU is cloud bc back air beats minecart. This is why Acola has been struggling with Sparg0

    • @labb3930
      @labb3930 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and acola says sonic is even mu

  • @alexmahon1278
    @alexmahon1278 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great video. Though I am pretty sure Steve's worst matchup is just Spargo

    • @CrawYT
      @CrawYT ปีที่แล้ว

      My thought exactly 😂

    • @kkokay4
      @kkokay4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ya thats just spargo tho. Aint no other clouds beating steves tbh

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kkokay4I see clouds beating Steves all the time

    • @zainahmed4172
      @zainahmed4172 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xanander4693that’s spargod cloud

  • @deadzone6661
    @deadzone6661 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how the character that beats Steve and Kazuya, two of the most hated characters in the game, happens to be the absolute most hated character in Ultimate, surpassing even those two.

    • @isidoreaerys8745
      @isidoreaerys8745 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After I fight Sonic, I’m not sad that I lost, I’m just happy it’s over.

  • @theinvincible5907
    @theinvincible5907 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    6:46 Not to mention that Pikachu can completely duck under Byleth's Neutral-B.

    • @weirdguy1495
      @weirdguy1495 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why would you use Byleth's Neutral B unless the shield breaks?

    • @theinvincible5907
      @theinvincible5907 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@weirdguy1495 Snipes and damage across the stage?

    • @wingedbluj1674
      @wingedbluj1674 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The uncharged version is good, but the full charge version is too committal for anything other than sniping off stage opponents.

    • @bylethfan1314
      @bylethfan1314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      a lot of characters can, you can just cancel it not really something that makes the mu worse since you're not using failnaught in neutral much anyway

    • @TheSharkAnt
      @TheSharkAnt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wingedbluj1674 Not to mention the fact that certain characters can reflect it right back at him/her.
      Oh, and Mr. Game & Watch can absorb it with his trusty little bucket.

  • @ballpad9124
    @ballpad9124 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That Steve vs Sonic match was painful to watch

    • @DavidZakuzaRyutashi
      @DavidZakuzaRyutashi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least the Sonic won, even if he had to time him out... But oof...I was this close to just skipping to the next fight.

  • @thecalabian
    @thecalabian ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are really appreciated Jordan! If you want video ideas, maybe a video with something about frame data or a video on how to optimally train amiibos?

  • @mayborneflower
    @mayborneflower ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am constantly bemused by how Sonic seems to consistently rip his fellow SEGA reps apart by design. First Bayonetta and now Joker.

  • @darkmewmewsans5481
    @darkmewmewsans5481 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Steve vs Sonic: I used the cringe to destroy the cringe
    I might pick up Sonic because I hate Kazuya

    • @G.H.M.
      @G.H.M. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “It’s a sacrifice…I’m willing to make”

    • @robmacher3253
      @robmacher3253 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As someone who actually plays Sonic, i do kinda get scared whenever i face Kazuya because i know he can kill me at any moment if i'm not carefull. But yeah, if you are carefull and play smart you can wreck Kazuya pretty hard and it is pretty sattisfying.

    • @darkmewmewsans5481
      @darkmewmewsans5481 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robmacher3253 Thanks for the advice

  • @natgel17
    @natgel17 ปีที่แล้ว

    These were a great trio of videos ! Keep it up my guy !

  • @wftghw
    @wftghw ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome stuff!! As a sephiroth main I was suspecting pichu. Sheik can punish a little easier and spam on almost freely attack with her frame data. I would agree with you though

  • @ayaansheriffquraishi4051
    @ayaansheriffquraishi4051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for making good videos Poppt

  • @TheMonkeydela
    @TheMonkeydela ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bob's your uncle was always a confusing phrase for me as a kid, I actually had an uncle named Bob so it was just a matter of fact

  • @crimsonstormsurge
    @crimsonstormsurge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok this has been a really cool and informative series

  • @EmanexUKS
    @EmanexUKS ปีที่แล้ว

    I had so much fun watching the vids Poppt

  • @braydenduinink2976
    @braydenduinink2976 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you asked for more ideas, please keep doing every character in a tournament, I love those vids!

  • @weirdguy1495
    @weirdguy1495 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here are the characters' worst matchups in roster order, with parentheses around characters whose worst matchup is Steve that have alternate options.
    Samus/Dark Samus: Pichu and Pokemon Trainer
    Yoshi: Jigglypuff
    Fox: Pac-Man
    Pikachu: Roy, Sonic, Palutena, Simon/Richter, and Byleth
    Luigi: Fox
    Sheik: Min Min and Sephiroth
    Ice Climbers: Ken
    Roy: Ike
    Mr. Game and Watch: (Donkey Kong), Pikachu, Captain Falcon, Peach/Daisy, Falco, Lucario, ROB, Wii Fit Trainer, and Piranha Plant
    Meta Knight: King K. Rool
    Zero Suit Samus: Mr. Game and Watch, Meta Knight, and Incineroar
    Snake: Shulk
    Diddy Kong: Pit/Dark Pit, Pyra/Mythra, and Sora
    Sonic: (Kirby), Marth/Lucina, Greninja, Mii Gunner, Bayonetta, Joker, Steve, and Kazuya
    Olimar: Samus/Dark Samus, (Wario), Robin, and Banjo and Kazooie
    ROB: Wolf and Ridley
    Wolf: Zero Suit Samus
    Mega Man: Snake and Duck Hunt
    Rosalina: (Ryu)
    Greninja: Hero
    Palutena: Ness
    Pac-Man: (Sheik), Diddy Kong, and (Little Mac)
    Shulk: Mario, Yoshi, Dr. Mario, Corrin, (Inkling), and Terry
    Cloud: Young Link, Olimar, Mii Brawler, and Cloud
    Bayonetta: Mewtwo
    Joker: Zelda, Chrom, and Mii Swordfighter
    Hero: Villager
    Min Min: Ice Climbers, (Ganondorf), and Mega Man
    Steve: Donkey Kong, Kirby, Bowser, Sheik, Ganondorf, Wario, Little Mac, Bowser Jr., Ryu, and Inkling
    Sephiroth: Luigi and Lucas
    Pyra/Mythra: Link, Toon Link, Rosalina, (Bowser Jr.), and Isabelle
    Kazuya: (Bowser)
    Sora: Dedede

  • @steqhen
    @steqhen ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series!

  • @nau2cal
    @nau2cal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's finally out, been very curious about sephiroth and sora lmao

  • @theshadowspider97
    @theshadowspider97 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I like that this series was also technically an "every character's best matchups" video series, as well.

    • @Baxter_the_Octopus
      @Baxter_the_Octopus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never found out what Dedede’s best matchup is

    • @TheSharkAnt
      @TheSharkAnt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Baxter_the_Octopus Probably either Ganon or DK.

    • @Blackfedoraowner
      @Blackfedoraowner หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSharkAntliterally the only two matchups I think favor dedede

    • @TheSharkAnt
      @TheSharkAnt หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Blackfedoraowner King Dedede apparently has a surprisingly good matchup with Peach. What do you think?

    • @Blackfedoraowner
      @Blackfedoraowner หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSharkAnt I would probably say that is even as a Dedede main. I don’t know how Dedede has an advantage over Peach.

  • @MarioStickMan12
    @MarioStickMan12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd argue MK is just as bad for MinMin as Sheik is. MK can easily easily avoid MinMin's arms because of his multi-jumps and has the speed on the ground to easily catch up her, but most importantly has probably the easiest time in the world, not only getting her offstage, but edgeguarding her.

    • @juliamedina3322
      @juliamedina3322 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a Min Min main, I don't know if MK is as bad as Sheik, but he's definitely up there. MK is insanely hard for Min Min, 100%. I super agree.

    • @pablo4707
      @pablo4707 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@juliamedina3322 aren't Puff and Greninja also terrible for Min Min ?

    • @TheSharkAnt
      @TheSharkAnt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't you just SDI out of his combos?

  • @jae_peas
    @jae_peas ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m a Banjo main and I know alot of people say Olimar is terrible but I think that TG has proven the matchup is more than doable. I think he tends to struggle more versus Fox/Greninja , basically just characters who can oppress him and not let him set up his gameplan

    • @tallen3057
      @tallen3057 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a fellow Banjo main, I would say that in terms of olimar, he has a lot of moves the he can safely smack pikmin away with while setting up his combos, so it's not a big deal. Greninja and fox are super exploitable with his general gameplan because of 1) Fox's weight and 2) Greninja's dependence on grabs. I would say his worst matchup is easily Isabelle, just due to her ability to invalidate his game plan. you have to play some heavy mind games to win.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tallen3057 I'm a Banjo main and Isabelle doesn't annoy me nearly as much Fox and Olimar. Yes Isabelle can take away his grenade, but she's still very easy to avoid, and the fun of Banjo is avoiding the opponent till they mess up.

  • @mortezz1268
    @mortezz1268 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another interesting video you could make is a list of matchups where a low/mid tier beats a high/too tier like DK cloud for example

    • @TheSharkAnt
      @TheSharkAnt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apparent Mr. Game & Watch loses to Little Mac.

    • @akirafuudou2037
      @akirafuudou2037 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSharkAnt It's possible if Game & Watch fails to keep Little Mac offstage

  • @XBladerX246
    @XBladerX246 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd say for Terry due to being a main of Terry. I'd say Lil Mac because of his super armor. If Mac charges or uses down smash at the ledge, Terry wouldn't be able to recover due to the hit box on Terry's recover. It's painful to deal with.

  • @sagegang6957
    @sagegang6957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a seph player there are alot of bad mus for faster characters but i definitely feel like diddy is at least a honorable mention due to how easy it is for him to whiff punish and kill sephiroth while also applying pressure with the monkey flip mix ups, min min is also on the level of sheik imo

  • @JamestheGamingEngine
    @JamestheGamingEngine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would never expect a rich bendy fruit full of Potassium be deadly, but the Chimp proved me wrong😂😂😂

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Remember Lanky's fight with K Rool? I think that is what is what Sakurai trying to reference.

  • @willhorton7624
    @willhorton7624 ปีที่แล้ว

    gr8 clips m8

  • @jebronlames987
    @jebronlames987 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sora being weak to Diddy makes sense. Those Powerwild monkey Heartless in KH1 are my Kryptonite.

  • @shyguy6451
    @shyguy6451 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m gonna have to disagree pretty heavy on Sonic V Steve.I think a lot of people don’t take into account how much tnt does Vs sonic. Sonic can’t spin dash through the tnt. He’ll have to constantly spin dash over, jump over or wait. Which then can make up for all the burst speed of sonic, giving you plenty of time to get resources and cancel into a counterattack.
    Personally I’d argue Sephiroth/Sora/Cloud are MUCH more oppressive for a Steve. They’re all faster then Steve and can put him in nasty disadvantage states. Steves best ways of getting back are blocks minecart and sometimes anvil. Sora and Sephiroth can challenge those moves very well. Cloud in general just counters campy gameplay and then has the big hitboxes and speed on top.
    TLDR. Sonic is not as bad a matchup as Square Characters.

    • @shyguy6451
      @shyguy6451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also I neglected to mention tnt does not win you the MU against sonic but it makes it easier.

  • @wilk3425
    @wilk3425 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steve's Worst Matchup: Sonic
    Sonic mains: **Pop off Celebration**

  • @Suuup_SSB
    @Suuup_SSB ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should watch and give commentary on some of the larger tournaments

  • @Loxu69
    @Loxu69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:05 I think its undoubtedly ivysaur, steve loses his most oppressive option (block walls) against ivy cause his fair just destroys any blocks not to mention up air literally deletes the character

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem is while it might be good at destroying blocks on level when recovering the blocks completely stop you.
      You're trading off an advantage for a loss and up air is good against most characters because of its size.

    • @mercurysnake274
      @mercurysnake274 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Buglin_Burger7878Ivy’s recovery goes through blocks

  • @staticaster_
    @staticaster_ ปีที่แล้ว

    The video, showcasing the best player for each character, would be interesting to watch

  • @winkmydink
    @winkmydink ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Feels so good to be a sonic main sometimes

  • @6eyedbird
    @6eyedbird ปีที่แล้ว +3

    shiek generally does pretty good vs. most swordies, i think because they dont have great escape options vs her combos and she is really good at edgeguarding their decent at best recoveries
    Min min is just a swordie on crack

  • @theinvincible5907
    @theinvincible5907 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:47 Smooth description into the MU

  • @Brave_Tsubasa
    @Brave_Tsubasa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sonic is definitely a bad matchup for Joker but I wouldn’t say Joker loses that matchup harder than the Pikachu matchup. Bro cannot hit Pikachu it’s a pain in the ass

  • @ThePkmnYPerson
    @ThePkmnYPerson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm surprised you found footage of every single matchup. I'd think there'd be at least one no one's recorded a match of, especially since these are bad matchups.

  • @obsessedgamerboy6163
    @obsessedgamerboy6163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see a video talking about everyone's worst mu

  • @marigi2013
    @marigi2013 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched them all, great work collecting data, although I still find it sus that your main is Mr. Game & Watch and he manages to be the counter to most characters. I’ll have to take him up and find that out myself.

  • @Michael-cg5qn
    @Michael-cg5qn ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I disagree with Min Mins worst mu I think MK is worse. All his moves clank with hers, edgeguards her really well, has his teleport move, and is small with a lot of jumps.
    Speaking of Min Min I think they’re the hardest for Pyra and Mythra not diddy Kong although he’s up there.

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that Meta knight beats minmin, but it’s not worse than shiek. MK does get wall out a bit, and if you wait for him to land after dair camping, it’s not as bad.

    • @juliamedina3322
      @juliamedina3322 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually main both characters, and I agree that MK is awful for Min Min, and she's awful for Aegis. I do struggle more against Sheik with Min Min than against MK, but both are ridiculously hard. Diddy feels worse than Min Min for Aegis. Min Min is super difficult, don't get me wrong, but in general, when a character can out-neutral Mythra, you're in big trouble, and Diddy's neutral is just insane.

    • @Michael-cg5qn
      @Michael-cg5qn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xanander4693 I may be biased but Sheik is still a tall character who’s light which means it’s easier to land hits on her than someone like MK but I’ll admit that sheiks needles are harder to deal with than most of MKs kit and speed as well

    • @Michael-cg5qn
      @Michael-cg5qn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliamedina3322 true diddy does do good against swordies just like Min min but he also has banana and good stage control with his item

  • @loganburleson8476
    @loganburleson8476 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a seph main, i think robin and zss are his worst matchups. they are both extremely fast. they have mid range attacks that can do some noticeable damage. Robin's poison builds up percentage on the light seph making ko easier, and zss stunning seph is not good. zss also has the extended grab which is hard for seph who has no real good out-f-shield. and when you try to use any of seph range attacks, robin reflects or endures while samus either runs away of flips over them and is on top of you before you have a chance to recover and use the up neutral. It may sound odd, but I use slide a lot to initiate combos with seph and it is probably the best scenario for zss. slide, neutral air, down smash, octoslash, throw out a mega flaree in case they go higher, scintilla to edge guard. honestly, that is my best advice for any seph user

  • @austincarter9523
    @austincarter9523 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Definitely make one of these for smash 64

  • @JB-gc9jg
    @JB-gc9jg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Former Sephiroth main, Sheik is a bad matchup but the worst for me was Fox. It's hard to stop Fox pressure, the frame data is insane against Seph and the advantage Fox has over Sheik is weight. Sheik dies far easier than Fox and does less damage even if she can combo you longer

  • @gamenwatch6269
    @gamenwatch6269 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember I tried the Olimar (me) vs. the Banjo (bro) matchup. Very abysmal for Banjo. Can't even Side B approach. The Pikmin tanking and making Banjo be stuck in place was horrendously bad for Banjo

  • @lorenalopez2027
    @lorenalopez2027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If every one starts maining Sonic to sort of counter Steve, im quiting the game

    • @hakirayleigh
      @hakirayleigh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Say hello to Sonix.

  • @moviegametime3891
    @moviegametime3891 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sonic is Steve's worst matchup, huh? I guess what it takes to defeat a spammy character... Is another spammy character.

  • @T_667
    @T_667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Joker main I'd have to say Pikachu (and Pichu) over Sonic. Pika evades the bait and punish playstyle by just spamming neutral B and is very hard to combo with how small he is. Pika is also one of the few characters that can reliably edgeguard Joker and he can just camp when Arsene is out.
    If you're a Joker main, try picking up a secondary that does decently against Pika. G&W is a good one that doesn't require too much effort imo

    • @TheSharkAnt
      @TheSharkAnt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why is Sonic easier for Joker?

  • @WhitePointerGaming
    @WhitePointerGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve also struggles against characters with long range (not projectiles), such as Cloud, Sephiroth and Min Min.

  • @Eli_Becker
    @Eli_Becker ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I main banjo and I would argue falco also if ur using side b as a burst option to go through projectiles a lot idk what ur doing I mean it’s good sometimes but not close to the main use of that move

    • @darkmewmewsans5481
      @darkmewmewsans5481 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you please explain why you main banjo? This isn’t an insult I just don’t understand why anyone wants to play him

    • @drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569
      @drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkmewmewsans5481 There's plenty of people who main a character because they love the franchise they're from. As an example I know someone who mains Ness because Earthbound is his favorite game.
      I'd assume that it's a similar case for OP since like you said, there's not much appealing about Banjo from a mechanics/gameplay perspective.

    • @darkmewmewsans5481
      @darkmewmewsans5481 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 That’s a fair point, I main Mega Man cause I love the games so I guess that’s fair

    • @Eli_Becker
      @Eli_Becker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darkmewmewsans5481 I was born far after the series came out I just like him because I like bears in general as an animal and you can create crafty combos and allows for lots of improv in play which I find fun

    • @darkmewmewsans5481
      @darkmewmewsans5481 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eli_Becker fair point, I respect that

  • @darkstryller
    @darkstryller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shulk counter: 6
    steve counter: 10
    mr game and watch counter: 10
    marth/lucina counter: 1
    olimar counter: 4
    sonic counter: 10
    luigi counter: 1
    sephiroth counter: 3
    palutena counter: 1
    yoshi counter: 1
    kazuya counter: 1
    min min counter: 3
    pac-man counter: 3
    joker counter: 4
    samus / dark samus counter: 2
    cloud counter: 3
    bayonetta counter: 1
    pikachu counter: 5
    zero suit samus counter: 3
    diddy kong counter: 3
    wolf counter: 1
    mega man counter: 2
    roy/chrom counter: 1
    sora counter: 1
    pyra and mythra counter: 4
    ROB counter: 2
    hero counter: 1
    fox counter: 1
    snake counter: 1
    rosalina counter: 1
    ice climber counter: 1
    metaknight counter: 1
    greninja counter: 1
    sheik counter: 2
    this the final result.
    the steve counter is redundant, because poppt1 took the second worst matchup for each character.

  • @mgbrad5018
    @mgbrad5018 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From all my sora experience the worst match up for me has been snake. Just hold/pull a grenade and it renders the three hit useless

  • @SwordMaster3000
    @SwordMaster3000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sure Mr. Game And Watch wins against half the matchups but Sonic has an even more important role: the DLC killer.

  • @Novum228
    @Novum228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s funny how Sonic beats the other two Sega characters

  • @arturjunkes2328
    @arturjunkes2328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Piranha:Joker
    Joker: sonic
    Herói:greninja
    Banjo:olimar
    Terry:SHULK
    Byleth:Pikachu
    Min min:sheik
    Steve:sonic
    Sephiroth: sheik
    Pyra/mythra:diddy Kong
    Kazuya:Sonic
    Sora:diddy kong

  • @gearheartattackWario
    @gearheartattackWario ปีที่แล้ว

    A new best combos or best kill confirms would be so cool

  • @Charliehawkscreech
    @Charliehawkscreech ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I think Byleth's worst matchup is Min Min by far, but yeah pikachu is pretty bad too

  • @343Films
    @343Films ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's crazy how much hate Sonix specifically gets when KEN's sonic is ungodly levels of lame.

  • @cupcakemedia1143
    @cupcakemedia1143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This series is why my Ridley maining ass picked up Mega Man.

  • @ShallBePurified
    @ShallBePurified ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Cloud might be better than Sonic vs Steve. Cloud's big fair and bair can break mine cart, and Steve cannot punish on shield.

  • @kamicaxd3216
    @kamicaxd3216 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If sephis isnt pika, imma riot
    Edit: Fair enough

  • @Zigzorark
    @Zigzorark ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I honestly think that Cloud is an effective counter pick to Sora. He has a bigger sword, he hits harder, and has a much better Anti-combo game on top of being able to match his speed.

    • @gephicka
      @gephicka ปีที่แล้ว +2

      his aerials go crazy into sora too cuz of how floaty he is and how wide they are

    • @vision4860
      @vision4860 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd imagine Sora basically gets an edgeguard kill on Cloud any percent though. If Sora gets him offstage he could just run off, hold A, Cloud dies.

    • @Zigzorark
      @Zigzorark ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vision4860 If you get Cloud off stage it’s an easy kill, but you’ve got to deal with the giant sword first

    • @undeadmyth9977
      @undeadmyth9977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not here because i necessarily think you're wrong about the cloud counterpick (though spells really do hurt cloud and sora can edgeguard the crap out of cloud, so i wouldn't say it's too bad if bad at all, but i can see someone saying cloud-sora is good for cloud nonetheless)
      but did you really just say cloud has better combos than sora? because that is flat out wrong, sora has infinite combos and even not including those sora has some crazy combos with double-jump canceling, such as down-tilt -> double jump cancel nair 1 -> nair 2 -> double jump cancel nair one -> nair 2 -Double jump cancel Fair 1 -> fair 2. -> down tilt -> fair 1/2/3 dealing 55%.
      all this isn't even talking about how cloud doesn't have much of a combo game in the first place, with is combos usually being a grand total of 2 hits. namely Bair -> Dash attack or Up air -> up air, dealing around 25%.

    • @Zigzorark
      @Zigzorark ปีที่แล้ว

      @@undeadmyth9977 No, it’s that it’s harder to land the Sora combos on Cloud because of the range issue.
      Also, since Sora’s sword has three different hotboxes, all with different amounts of hitstun, the spacing is also an issue, since you can’t just run up and start the combo from the hilt. Sora has to play with tippers to get anything done, which is a problem because Clouds sword still outranges him.
      The core issue is the range and that Cloud can match his speed.

  • @NuBOrn21
    @NuBOrn21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think cloud does steve much worse then sonic honestly… sonic doesnt have a reliable way to destroy blocks and dies early to diamond, almost all of clouds options clank or just beat out steves strongest attacks as well

  • @timetobecreative7343
    @timetobecreative7343 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the worst matchup for Steve is cloud

  • @dabiskitt
    @dabiskitt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do every characters best matchup

  • @xavieroliveira8653
    @xavieroliveira8653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My most played characters really don't like diddy kong: Pit/Dark Pit, Sora, Pyra/Mythra. To compensate it, I also play diddy kong and wolf.

  • @bostonrusso9050
    @bostonrusso9050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Min min is byleth's worth matchup easily
    But pika, shiek, and sonic are similarly hard imo

  • @calebanderson1368
    @calebanderson1368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not cloud for Steve?

  • @defftony
    @defftony หลายเดือนก่อน

    Min Min is worse than Sonic for Steve if used correctly. The closest we got was the ft10 with Protobanham and Acola. The issue was that Proto is not a retreater. Even Steven in the sky is in danger and not a threat because of the slight angle on midair up b from Min Min. I would also say that Min Min is MUCH easier to get ready for steve if you don't main her. Her difficulty to main comes from how different many of the matchups have to be played to get the most out of her. Steve you just go meatball stay max range and stay poking. No need to use the hurtbox shift optimize edge guards or ledgetraps or mix up second arm timing care if Steve mines or crafts etc.

  • @tannerarmstrong1496
    @tannerarmstrong1496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching everything, it seems like maining sonic with a pocket diddy would be a good strat.

  • @pikapac2281
    @pikapac2281 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sonic eating good with this one

    • @robmacher3253
      @robmacher3253 ปีที่แล้ว

      On top of the matchups listed here, i'm aware he's also one of Byleth's worst matchups.

  • @enakchandler3812
    @enakchandler3812 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To fight cancer *cough* steve you have to fight cancer with cancer *cough* sonic

  • @PollyDavisStPollyGirl
    @PollyDavisStPollyGirl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is no one talking about how sonic counters Steve and kazuya and has no bad matchups

  • @Kuya_G99
    @Kuya_G99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sonic vs Steve might be the worst gameplay to watch. Whoever’s camps the most will win

  • @josephwatts1750
    @josephwatts1750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steve Sonic is the viewers worst matchup

  • @RandumMNK
    @RandumMNK ปีที่แล้ว

    Shiek is Sephiroth’s worst nightmare. Fox and Wolf are really close but they are more doable than Shiek since they at least have a hard time fighting Seph offstage or in another niche situation. On the other hand, Shiek just wins 😅

  • @ddx-art9794
    @ddx-art9794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great now bring a video with every characters hypest matchup 0 0

  • @princeglover7197
    @princeglover7197 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot that shulk can shield art out of terry’s combos 😂

  • @Kriskirby1992
    @Kriskirby1992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oddly poetic that Smash’s first third party character is good against a lot of the most recent third party additions

    • @k-leb4671
      @k-leb4671 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought Snake was Smash's first third party character.

  • @diodorussiculus5293
    @diodorussiculus5293 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to hear your thoughts on MuteAce's How to Win at Smash Ultimate video

  • @d9484
    @d9484 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is the reason why i came back to my sonic

  • @blazingboy_420
    @blazingboy_420 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr game and watch is a tough mu for piranha plant but it’s certainly not the worse one cuz Isabelle n villager are right there as well as steve