Why you shouldn't trust YT reviewers - Orange Super Crush 100
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- Aren't you sick of these frauds? I friggin am... I've wasted loads of money trusting YT reviews with my gear purchases only to find that the REALITY is not in line with the paid shill REVIEW. Don't shoot the messenger.... perfect example right here.
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I don’t trust people with KISS posters
haha never asked you to...
I have this exactly this amp, I play it in a sludge metal band in drop C tuning and a stoner/shoegaze/post-rock band tuned down to baritone A, through a "shitey" Peavey Valveking 412 and it does high gain for me perfectly well. I bought my Supercrush to replace my 6505+ combo when it's transformer blew during covid and waited 14 months for a replacement. One of the best guitar related purchases I have ever made.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong. I love this amp. Stoney AF.
Likewise. (About if I agreed with you)
Liking your straight up review. Thanks for qualifying rating as associated w high gain playing....from several YT reviews, clearly seems to lack the afore-mentioned "balls" ha ha. That said, super crush probably a great, low-cost/no frills/no fuss platform for rockin the man cave/shop with some pedals. Thanks for the review....helpful.
I have the Crush Pro 120 and with the bass & treble cranked all the way along with the mids at 10:00 it sounds perfect when you boost it with a Boss SD-1, especially with a lower output pickup like a Duncan Custom or probably even a set of PAF’s. I’ve gotten some really good 90’s Metal tones out of the Crush Pro 120 with an SD-1 in front using a Les Paul copy with a set of JB/59 pickups. I’m certain you can get similar tones out of a Super Crush 100 with the SD-1 in front.
In general I’ve noticed the SD-1 is one of the greatest clean boosts of all time, even better than the Tube Screamer.
Edit: I’ve also got a feeling that in terms of utilizing an SD-1 with an Orange amp there’s something magical about pairing an SD1 with an Orange for high gain, it’s like the SD-1 completes the Orange by adding everything that the amp alone is missing, while using the strengths of the amp to your advantage. I’ve also noticed that the SD-1 lets more of your amp’s natural tone shine through compared to a Tube Screamer. All the more reason as to why I love pairing the two together.
Completely agree...I bought the 5150 overdrive pedal because the you tube reviews made it sound awesome but it's just ok...for $250 I could of added that towards a 5150 amp...
I own a version of said 5150 pedal and a real 5150iii. To get them to sound close I had to use extreme settings, and even then the character of the distortion is different. There are things I like about both but they are not the same.
Maybe not metal, not sure. I think with proper pedals, EQ, etc. you could easily get it there. But what I will say is this amp is excellent for other genres that don't necessitate cranked gain. I play in a hardcore-ish, punk-ish, emo-ish band and with my P90 Les Paul and an overdrive pedal to add a little grit, this amp fuggin slams.
Also....I dont know a lot about amps (I have a marshall DSL40C, a katana 100 watt, and an eganater renegade 65/18, and blackstar ht20 as main amps)...curious what amps you like for high gain? Excellent playing, by the way....
@@jimtucker7005 Marshall jvm410h, Peavey 6505+, EVH stealth 100, Splawn Nitro etc etc. cheers 👍🏻
@@KaddysJamKave cool man, thanks for education!
I don't trust any TH-camr that gets free shit.
Have to agree. YT can be hit and miss. I have abandoned a few because they are clearly paid tools that make a living reviewing new gear, and everything is AWESOME BRO!! I seek out smaller channels now, that actually paid for the equipment. And if it sucks, it sucks.
I own a SuperCrush 100 and a Rockerverb III Combo. The Supercrush 100 sounds great. Its anything but shitty. The only haters seem to be the valve-only crowd...
1) I said shitty for high gain genres
2) I'm not a valve only guy
@@KaddysJamKaveorange amps never was really good for metal without boosting
Yea for right high gain don’t go orange for sludgy or something different then get orange if you want to sound like everyone else just get the damn 5150 with a v30 cab
I agree this amp was a huge let down. Glenn led me to buy it since he said it sounded like amps used for early 90’s Florida Death Metal. Bullshit
Agree, YT can be full of confusing reviews and thoughts. I bought this Super Crush hooked with Blacstar box a year ago for my death metal band. Well, once you set the gain at three o clock and high at the same value, you get very satisfying sharp brutal dozer sound. And still very specific and readable. But If you are fan of buzzing Panthera sound, which is also great, you are better to look for something different.
I agree with you . I just watched a sweetwater video of this amp and you can clear hear its colored with multiple effects . But they make it look like its the amp alone . Also i dont trust sponsored videos .
I sold a CR120 and bought this. After a week I sold it and my ppc412 with those shitty v30s.
I like the orange sound, but it was all pure mud, and with the gain maxed out still not even close enough.
It did Sound good with an fuzz through the clean, but def not worth the money in my opinion..
CR120 was much better…
Then today I bought a H&K cab with g12L 35 Speakers, sounds pretty great for a 90€ 4x12…
The super crush kicks ass at punk and all rock… just get a pedal into the clean channel for super high gain for punk or rock it can’t be beat for the $$ also high gain sound is tired a 5150 with a v30 over and over again you can get that orange to sound d good for high gain with a boost and eq like you said and it won’t sound like every other damn record
As a deathcore to thrash kinda guy, was debating between this or the Boss Katana artist 100 head.
What you get?
hello :) compare the Roland Blues Cube Stage to a tube amplifier
Here is what you do. Take whatever recording device you choose and don't eq anything. Post the video as recorded. Take the amp and cabinet into a gym, racquetball court, out in the woods, in your basement, in your backyard, in your garage or on your roof. Then we will see if what you said in this video is true.
Throw a tube screamer in front of the Super Crush as a clean boost and you can get great death and thrash metal tones. This is a perfect amp for any metal genres. If you cant get a metal tone out of it thats on you.
Pfft. It's garbage even with a tube screamer in front.
@KaddysJamKave you are objectively wrong. This is a great amplifier capable of high gain metal tones. It's based on the rockerverb which is used by bands like High On Fire, Boris, Mastodon, and Slipknot. It's objectively a metal amp
@@StEvEn420BrUlE Nope. Compared to a REAL high gain amp... It's poo. You probably have no point of reference and I don't give a crap what other artists use.
@KaddysJamKave how you gonna look Matt Pike of High on Fire and Sleep in the face and say the Orange has no gain compared to a 5150? Have you ever even listened to doom or sludge metal?
@@StEvEn420BrUlE Id happily say it to their face but I'm sure they know already. It doesn't matter who says it... And what their status is. The super crush has very little gain and saturation compared to a JVM, 5150, 6505, dual rec etc etc. That is the reality and if you don't have any of these amps to compare with them then you shouldn't make such bold statements and appeal to authority.
I don't own this amp (but I plan on buying one eventually) and I think a lot of people's gripes come down to the Super Crush being kinda shit for modern rock/metal genres. For a boosted high gain sludge/doom sound I think it will perform very well, and that's why I want one. I do respect your opinions though, although I may disagree.
this is crap. go watch andrew baena kill it with this head...
Never believe any reviews on YT where the channel is "gifted" the item for review
they are not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
There are some genuine honest channels on here but sadly they are a minority.
Always be suspicous of a new product that is rated as the best ever, only to find out that when you buy one
it is anything but the best.
Classic examples are the infamous "Spark" amp, and the PRS Silver Sky SE, both were way overhyped creating a high
demand, now the Siver Sky is heavily discounted, i wonder why? as for the Spark Amp, it sounds nothing like the demo's.
The only option is try before you buy or if you have no choice make sure you buy from a store with a good returns policy.
There is a lot of junk sold, just ensure that you know what you are buying.
What the hell. I just orded one just before seeing this video
Ironic how the comments section tends to agree,just like the comment sections agree on videos stating the opposite,if y’all would listen with your own ears you’d know not to trust anyone’s opinion including his lmfao
I wish i had watched this before i bought mine, I would have been better off to buy a tube lunchbox amp. I am very stubborn when it comes to keeping my rig simple, i dont want to put an EQ in the loop and a bunch of other crazy shit to make the amp enjoyable to play in the room. I want to dial in the tone, stomp on a tube screamer and go. The only other pedals i want to run are a tuner and a noise gate. My dark terror sounded friggin great through a HB v30 2x12 in about 10 seconds. I just couldnt get into the supercrush. And the EQ doesnt fix it in my opinion.
If Im going too give the SC any props, i would say its probably well suited as a quality beginner gigging amp for rock or punk, im sure it is way better than the crate half stack i had in highschool.
Nah i disagree, the sc kicks butt, excellent for punk rock , blues, rock etc, who in hell said it was a metal amp anyways???? Yes it will do metal u just have to use eq pedal , boost etc, i gig with mine regularly and its clear and slays, most ppl dont understand a good solid state amp, dimbag did thats why he used them,
It's boxy with no bass or bite and punch. Crappy solid state amp 😜 Randall's on the other hand don't suffer from the same symptoms and sound great 😆
@@KaddysJamKave crap I've owned Randall's and sold them because this is better, clearer, more articulate, more harmonic and cuts better live on stage, and I'm gigging regularly, bass guitar amps give u the bass your looking for on stage but a nice clean amp without being too dirty sounds ace
@@73prd your description of the sc is the opposite of what I'm hearing... But to each their own lol.
TH-cam reviews should be a starting point only, not your final source of information before you go buying things. Before I buy my amps, I go to the store and try them myself. I've had an Orange Rocker 15 and I now have a Mesa Mark V 35 based on this way of evaluating, and I liked them both. I am currently looking for another Orange head, and will probably go for either this Supercrush 100 or shell out big bucks for the Rockerverb III and call it a day. Don't know which I want to do just yet. But yeah, don't make purchase decisions based on videos that are most likely sponsored anyway. Go and try it yourself.
Wish I had that luxury... No decent guitar shops within a reasonable driving distance so purchasing online is the only option for many. Guitar shops are on the way out...
@@KaddysJamKave For the record I returned the Mesa and got the OR30 tube amp instead. Much less time wasted on EQs and knobs and more on actually playing. Cheers!
I never dime my gain .personal taste.. too much gain just sounds like a mess. Get a od pedal of choice and dial it in. Ive used blackstars for many years and i like the crush simply put, its a simple amp and a lot quieter than an overdriven blackstar. Now if you are a trash metal player spend a few grand and get a true tube amp with a tube od pedal.. and hopefully that will make you happy...till you're stuck playing worship gigs
Idk. I play punk rock, so take that for what it is. I have a rockerverb II and just got the super crush for gigging (less to replace if shit goes south). Other than lacking a little bit of low end, I'd say they are pretty fucking close. Good enough for what im playing anyway
I've always been of the opinion that it you have to do a ton of post processing and effects and put so much effort into making something sound good.. then I don't want it. Not saying it should be plug and play.. but, a good rule of thumb to me is if it sounds good in the room or live, it'll translate well into a recording situation most likely and won't take much to get it to sound good in the mix. I'd rather spend time playing and writing music instead of tinkering and wasting time after the fact trying to make something sound just ok..
Super crush 100 ,wooooh we're going real fast and real left son....
I like what you're saying.
Well...I do not do high gain, for classic rock the amp does the job for me however I was not totally happy with it when I first ran it through a 1x12 but when it goes through a 2x12 cab it came to life but ya got to crank the thing.
It sounds like a rocker verb. This guy doesn’t like the rocker verb. That’s fine.
Not even close!! Thats just a lie you people keep spreading cause you dont wanna spend 2000$!! The rockerverb sounds much thicker and juicier.
In my band we had an MKII, CR120 and Super Crush.
I would even say the CR120 sounded closer with an boost.
Super Crush sounds OK, but it will never sound like RV.
Maybe on edited bullshit YT Videos, but not when you have it right in front of you.
The worst is if you're some kid just starting out you save up and get this thinking it's gonna blow your socks off straight out of the box. If I think about what does it sound like with no help... closest thing I can think of is Nirvana. If you crank the gain all the way up the most it is gonna do is sound somewhat like the nevermind record. Shoving a Fortin grind in the front and eq on the back makes it much much better. I got this head because I already have a Randall RG3003h which has plenty of gain and I just wanted something a little different. SC100 is a good pedal platform. It's preamp is definitely not designed for high gain metal. With the boost and eq it can hang but it definitely needs a lot of help.
I toally agree..My supercrush disappointed me at first.Im starting to get used to it but its far from what they made it out to be ...For 700 i could have done better buying used.
Most reviewers have a sponsored agenda to push. There's a reason the majority of the Orange line is so well regarded in the doom, stoner,sludge world, not the thrash and death genre.
🔥🤟👍
Whatttttt??? 😂
Make up your mind. Your other video you really like it.
Uhhhh, no. Only when changing the voicing... The amp on it's own is junk.
😂 I loved this Video.
Please make more Videos dude.
Don’t take this personally… this review is insane 😂 the super crush is voiced like a Rockerverb - the rockerverb isn’t a high gain amp (although it can achieve this)
So why did you buy it?
Would you buy a Land Rover and then moan that it doesn’t go round a race track very quickly? 😂😘
It's pretty "insane" to me to suggest the supercrush is anywhere near as good as a rockerverb... Yes I've tried both. The RV doesn't lack the high end presence that the SC suffers from and has more depth and a fuller tone compared to the 2 dimensional boxy solid state sound the SC has. Why did I buy it? Because several YT shills hyped it up and made it sound great plus it was a good price to take a risk on. Never trusted YT marketing shills ever since.
@@KaddysJamKave : who suggested the SC is as good as the RV?
@@bobbillnolan7644 You said my negative opinion on the SC is "insane" and said it's "Voiced like a Rockerverb" which suggests you think it's close or in the same ball park. Complete opposite.
@@KaddysJamKave : ok - I’m outta the conversation, you’re picking minute faults, with the terminology used within the English language… (I.e ‘voiced’) with an English man …. Essentially, this amp is not a specific high gain amp, nor is the rockerverb, so don’t expect it to be 👍✌️
@@bobbillnolan7644 🤣🤣😂😂 Rightio then...
I'm certainly trying one, I don't play super high gain so it might be for me, dave simpson plays so called shit products like a marshall MG and makes it spund amazing with just a pedal board
I'm a firm believer that you can make almost ANY amp sound good with a few pedals and decent speakers. I wouldn't consider the MG or the Super Crush "good" amps for my genre but I can certainly make them sound good enough with pedals as well. I use to get by with a HH VS Musician 100 watt head for years when I was broke and made that thing sound great 🤣
Same thing happened to me with the first crush amp. Bought the head cause the hype made it seem awesome and then it was lacking.
Hello thank you for your review i was aiming for this amp for high gain situations but now i changed my mind !!! Do you have any opinion about black star ht metal 5 watts for home use?
I have no experience with that amp sorry... the super crush is alright if you EQ it and use an overdrive.
@@KaddysJamKave thank you for your reply ...then super crush is not for me.
I like amps that are nice when you just plug an play without extra pedals i will keep for sure my dsl5...
The video title says don’t trust you tube,his opinion of the amp isn’t any better or more trusting than anyone else.have you not realized tone is subjective yet,can’t believe you would let him change your mind,he’s just another guy on you tube
@@tommilitello198 You are right , the problem is that i shaped my opinion from TH-cam from other users that own the amp... if had the choice to try it myself i wouldn't asking at youtube....Kaddy supports that this amp has no the bottom end i need but only with boost pedal and i believe him....most of the youtubers may have a reason(payment) so they promoting this amp... the best is to find it and try it;; Have you tried it yourself;
@@tommilitello198 I agree with u 100%, Mr Tom.
I had the super crush for about two days. Returned it right away. Fully agree about the influencers out there, don’t believe the hype, and make the decisions for yourselves!
No truer words were ever spoken.
You're wrong .bt thats ok.
About what? Do explain...
@@KaddysJamKave that this is a shit amp !i use one running thru a Marshall 4x12 ...it fucking rips for heavy ,high gain shit. death metal .doom,stoner ,crust punk,black metal,clean tones, right out of the box.the addition of pedals depending on your flavor of music ,help fine tune...for me a winner ...bt hey we cant always be right ...lol
@@reps138 Agree to disagree. When compared to a REAL high gain tube amp... It's garbage for high gain. To think otherwise is to be living in fantasy land mate 😂🤘