The part where Norm Duke says we know from release whether its a strike or not, but we look just because we're interested, gave me goosebumps. Cant wait to rip the pins apart tonight with those loud strike us bowlers speak of!! 🎳🤙
I was able to meet him at my local bowling alley while he was practicing before the 2006 TOC at Mohegan Sun. It was a slow afternoon on a weekday, and I don't think anyone else even knew who he was, but I was completely starstruck. I very nervously introduced myself, and half expected him to blow me off, but he was an incredibly nice guy. I was just a dumb 18 year old, but he stood there chatting with me for at least 5 minutes, and even signed a 700 series patch I had in my bag.
I'm almost 35 and have witnessed the PBA from watching it on ABC to ESPN and now to FoxSports - and this is probably the beginning of another golden era of bowling thanks to the up-comers as well as people like Norm Duke. The '20s (2020's that is) will be the roaring again....
This Sport is my love, my health, my life and a guide for my Family. Bowling is very special to me and I have a heart of Bowling. Basketball was the most popular sport in the Philippines and Bowling wasn’t even on Fox Sports here in the Philippines and I don’t like it cause to me as a Filipino Youth Bowler, Basketball gives drugs while Bowling gives you life. You could barely see that it’s way easier in Bowling, you know just walk towards a line than in Basketball just running around, dodge and catch like an idiot. And some Filipino Basketball Players might led to several problems of life and other people’s lives. For the Filipino Telecast: The way that Filipino Digital Telecast forgot or meant to not include Bowling on Fox Sports was VERY RUDE.
This is exactly why i got so interested in bowling and the people. The unique ability for so many bowlers to throw the ball so many different ways yet be successful is such an amazing thing to watch. Ill never understand why the sport ever hits lows but it deserves so much more respect! Not to mention outside of the bowlers Randy has got to be one of the best commentators in any sport let alone bowling.
Wow what a great documentary. Ive bowled since the 60’s and actually bowled a bit on tour, just started back after a decade off. Love this! Norm Duke is the man! Troup, love the hair my brotha!! Lol Belmo, amazing!
That's assuming it's 2D. In real life the pins are 3D, your ball is 3D and the revs on the ball directly affect pin carry. It also depends on when the ball starts into a roll. If the ball is still in the "hook" phase when it hits the pins, it will most likely deflect to the right leaving a 10 due to a weak 6. The physics and math of bowling is MUCH more complicated, believe me.
Been around the game since Dad, who was the anchor bowler for Amalfi's Restaurant in Larchmont, NY, took me to the alleys at 8 years old. What Norm Duke and Bill O'Neil said about the advent of technology in television affected our game greatly. When bowling alleys were filled 52 lanes, double shift, four nights a week, the game had many sponsors outside of bowling companies and manufacturers of bowling equipment, the game thrived and was trending upwards as a sport, with Chris Schenkel and Nelson Burton Jr as the faces every Saturday afternoon in the prime slot before ABC's Wide World of Sports, bowling reached a mecca that has not been seen since in popularity. At the same time, other sports such as football, baseball, golf and basketball started to gain in popularity as well, and getting on the television in prime time slots to compete with bowling, and eventually take over as America's favorite pastimes. As Norm Duke rightly pointed out, there are many reasons for the decline of bowling, but not the least of which is technology itself, not only in the reach of it to audiences around the world, but within the game itself. Technology has changed the way the game is played dramatically, not only with the advent of what is commonly now known as the "two-handers," (In truth, there is no such thing as a "two-handed bowler," unless it is a young child rolling the ball down a dinosaur ramp) but also the cost of being able to participate skyrocketed in comparison to other sports competing for time slots and sponsorship dollars, and also alumni dollars (more on that later). The average cost to run a center has also increased, but more importantly, the average cost for a person of any age to compete even on a league level, and reach the status of professional through hard work and practice, is astronomical in comparison to other sports mentioned, and when compared to the rewards one can obtain from being one of the best. All this cost increase came from technology. There is no comparison between any of the other sports cost to reward, as golf, baseball, football and basketball all have professionals that earn millions every year, whereas in bowling it was a milestone when a professional went past the million dollar mark in earnings for a career. So the cost/benefit ratio is not in sync to be able to attract parents to put their children in league every week on Saturday, when the fields are so much greener for them in other sports that don't cost as much, and can bring their children, and hence them in almost 100% of the cases, big monies for themselves and the family if their child succeeds at the chosen sport. It's a sad fact that greed and avarice have badly affected the field of true sport. Without sponsors outside of the game, bowling will continue to languish well behind other sports that are much easier on the parental pocketbook when choosing which the children will participate in, and continue to participate. Right now, the average cost to keep being competitive is going to cost at least one to two thousand a year in equipment alone, let alone league fees, tournament fees, travel to tournaments, etc. And the rewards of scholarship to college are meager when compared to the other sports, which also affects parental thinking for their long-term desire for success of all their children, which is what the very technological device that has caused the boost in greed and avarice, the "boob tube" as my father called it, preaches to them every week, programming them to believe that if you don't have a sheepskin on the wall, you are a failure at life. See how even education weaves into the quilt of choices, and the career path choices that are made, all from "programming." There is no dishonest trade, skilled or unskilled, and many don't require a sheepskin on the wall. When will parents wake up, and when will our darling elected officials bring back our manufacturing base to provide good high paying jobs that help our communities as a whole? Technology affected all these as well. Technology no doubt can be a wonderful thing, but also the worst thing at the same time.
This was awesome. So well done. What is great weather people like Belmo or not is how he has grown into an ambassador of the game of bowling. Learned from his mistakes of crunching bottles and some other poor etiquette. To become possibly the greatest bowler in history certainly on his way to become that. To see how he handles himself on and off the lanes is great to see. This has been the best year for the PBA in a long time I love that this sport is gaining more momentum every telecast. PBA playoffs is sweet to watch the world series is unreal but always my favorites to watch the Majors.
I remember when I was 11 I was with my friends bowling casually on a Saturday night and when we got done and we went home I said to my dad can I get my own bowling ball and he said why and I said because I have finally found something I am truly passionate about. I am 16 now and btw and I am a 2 hander when I started and I have come a long way. I have the average in various leagues that is the level of college players and I love bowling so much and I cannot wait for what the future holds
People get frustrated about Belmonte changing things up, and I get it. It's a different world, but I've seen video games that I used to love playing "devolve" into something completely different... But they only reason they're still up and running to this day is because they have changed along with their audience. What would you rather have - Bowling die as a sport because nobody changes things up and the youth isn't interested, or bowling live on with the youth being interested in all the new exciting things happening?
I’m 18 years old now, Senior in high school about to sign a letter of intent to bowl collegiate. I’ve bowled league since I was in the 3rd grade. I’d bowled 1 handed up until my sophomore year of high school and then I saw Jason Belmonte bowl 2 handed and said to myself imma do that. Just recently bowled my highest game a 267.
Bravo to the network and the PBA for this. Well done. But, where's the money? These poor guys can't make NEAR what their earlier peers did. Come on, Tom Clark and staff. Work for sponsors. Get these guys paid like they were in the 80's.
A lot of people say bowling isn't a sport but let me ask you this do you have to compete against people in order for something to be a sport?... Yes.. Then that's bowling you compete not only against other people but also against yourself. You compete against yourself by trying to become even better than you were the last time. Like this comment if this makes sense to you
one of the main problems i see with bowling now is the fact that most people go into the center and rent shoes and use an alley plastic ball and they can't recreate what they see on tv. a lot of people i see throwing 2 finger kinda like tom daugherty because it's the only way they can get the ball to hook at all. the fact that you have to go in and buy hundreds sometimes thousands of dollars of equipment turns a lot of people off, all the popular sports like baseball basketball football all the equipment is already provided for you. the equipment provided at bowling centers is sub-par and a lot of aging centers lacking funding and updates appear old and grungy, lanes aren't oiled as often even for some leagues. the entire experience costs way more than ever and doesn't last as long for the money as playing a full game of any of the top sports does. not to mention at the top level only the top 20 maybe 30 guys per year make any real money, the rest are barely getting by. there's a lot that has to change if bowling is to ever get seriously popular again, not to mention all other major sports have regional teams that fans get behind simply by living there or being born there (which is absurd but that's a whole other topic) whereas bowling is mostly individual. the closest analog would be golf but golf is white collar prestige, refined, and in most cases costs even more than bowling but still takes a full day not just 1-2 hours and courses are maintained better, even public city courses.
there's a lot more issues covered, namely that while some may call jason 'the tiger woods of bowling' because of how he's changed the game, there's no superstar world #1 multi-racial cool dude for bowling, it's seen largely as a white male dominated game and in the modern world that's the opposite of cool.
The thing that makes bowling so terrible is the horrible lane conditions that the lane man doesn't know are care about whether you the bowler can perform when the lanes are not conditioned properly since the house has to pay for the conditioner and the maintenance of the machines. Recently, the person working the lanes said it doesn't matter if the lanes haven't been oiled because the oil is down at the other end near the pins. In the old days Bill Glenn at the Ozark Bowl in Springfield, Missouri would go down to the other end of the lane and mop up the oil ; today they just stand behind the counter and wait for the money. St,. Charles, Lanes is now in Chapter 11 Bankruptcy because they cater to the Linndenwood, University bowling teams and let them bowl for nearly nothing and in addition to that they also cater to the handy capped and they bowl for nearly nothing as a result prices have to go up on open play and on drinks. It is not cheap to maintain a bowling center; the parking lot costs a great deal just to maintain it. The utilities alone cost a large center thousands of dollars every month. If you let the lanes set there without bowlers and people don't rent shoes that are skilled and if they can't bowl good scores they aren't going to keep bowling at that house. This problem has long been the affliction of bowling centers because the management is just trying to make a free lunch and he doesn't care if you bowl Seriously or not. In fact the manager at the Ozark Bowl on Glenstone spent as much time at night with women in the back seat than he did managing the center . . I know I worked there for 6 years.
Where I live here in the Oklahoma City metro area, in the past 20 years or more, there have been around 7 bowling centers that have closed. I do know if it is popularity or what not but it is sad to see.
Why would you post something like this? This comment and specifically listing particular houses is in bad taste. Some of your remarks could be considered slander, they are completely irrelevant to this video, and your entitled to your personal opinions but not to run down businesses in a public forum by name and location. That's just bad taste, uncalled for, and wrong.
@@matthewfrancis9237 sorry for the above response and it as NOT made by ME. ..The other person,who I share a computer with ,made this post. and I have since told him to remove my email from his computer.
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Norm Duke seems like such a genuine guy and he makes me want to absorb every word he says.
The part where Norm Duke says we know from release whether its a strike or not, but we look just because we're interested, gave me goosebumps. Cant wait to rip the pins apart tonight with those loud strike us bowlers speak of!! 🎳🤙
I was able to meet him at my local bowling alley while he was practicing before the 2006 TOC at Mohegan Sun. It was a slow afternoon on a weekday, and I don't think anyone else even knew who he was, but I was completely starstruck. I very nervously introduced myself, and half expected him to blow me off, but he was an incredibly nice guy. I was just a dumb 18 year old, but he stood there chatting with me for at least 5 minutes, and even signed a 700 series patch I had in my bag.
He's a phenomenal human being. I've had the pleasure to bowl against him in professional tournaments. Total gem of a human.
I'm almost 35 and have witnessed the PBA from watching it on ABC to ESPN and now to FoxSports - and this is probably the beginning of another golden era of bowling thanks to the up-comers as well as people like Norm Duke. The '20s (2020's that is) will be the roaring again....
The roaring 20s was followed by the Great Depression so....
Love bowling (like if you agree)
Love Bowling
This Sport is my love, my health, my life and a guide for my Family. Bowling is very special to me and I have a heart of Bowling. Basketball was the most popular sport in the Philippines and Bowling wasn’t even on Fox Sports here in the Philippines and I don’t like it cause to me as a Filipino Youth Bowler, Basketball gives drugs while Bowling gives you life. You could barely see that it’s way easier in Bowling, you know just walk towards a line than in Basketball just running around, dodge and catch like an idiot. And some Filipino Basketball Players might led to several problems of life and other people’s lives. For the Filipino Telecast: The way that Filipino Digital Telecast forgot or meant to not include Bowling on Fox Sports was VERY RUDE.
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 I love Bowling and I would not even think about stopping because what I do is not for money or fame it's for life
Please more. I'm so glad fox is putting money in the PBA and it's showing.
Bowling is awesome!
This is the best thing the PBA has ever produced more please!!
This is the best game of all time . Anyone that does bowl loves the sport , like all of us .
This is exactly why i got so interested in bowling and the people. The unique ability for so many bowlers to throw the ball so many different ways yet be successful is such an amazing thing to watch. Ill never understand why the sport ever hits lows but it deserves so much more respect! Not to mention outside of the bowlers Randy has got to be one of the best commentators in any sport let alone bowling.
Gave me goosebumps from the start. This shows what it truly means to these guys. Heart warning.
Although Pete Weber is my favorite bowler Norm Duke was the first Bowler I saw on tour.
The PBA is so awesome
Best video I have ever watched bowling is the greatest thing there is and this video sums up bowling in the best way I have ever seen
casen stickler 100% agree.
Wow what a great documentary. Ive bowled since the 60’s and actually bowled a bit on tour, just started back after a decade off. Love this! Norm Duke is the man! Troup, love the hair my brotha!! Lol Belmo, amazing!
Well made and inspiring
Just joined onto the PBA and am super excited
I will keep on practicing everyday single day to achieve my dream and the sport that I love which is bowling
I always wondered what the math was when you hit the pocket
That's assuming it's 2D. In real life the pins are 3D, your ball is 3D and the revs on the ball directly affect pin carry. It also depends on when the ball starts into a roll. If the ball is still in the "hook" phase when it hits the pins, it will most likely deflect to the right leaving a 10 due to a weak 6. The physics and math of bowling is MUCH more complicated, believe me.
@@AcidixBlitzHD oh yeah I know the math is complicated. I've bowled my whole life and this is the first time I've seen the math
Absolutely loved this.
Been around the game since Dad, who was the anchor bowler for Amalfi's Restaurant in Larchmont, NY, took me to the alleys at 8 years old. What Norm Duke and Bill O'Neil said about the advent of technology in television affected our game greatly. When bowling alleys were filled 52 lanes, double shift, four nights a week, the game had many sponsors outside of bowling companies and manufacturers of bowling equipment, the game thrived and was trending upwards as a sport, with Chris Schenkel and Nelson Burton Jr as the faces every Saturday afternoon in the prime slot before ABC's Wide World of Sports, bowling reached a mecca that has not been seen since in popularity.
At the same time, other sports such as football, baseball, golf and basketball started to gain in popularity as well, and getting on the television in prime time slots to compete with bowling, and eventually take over as America's favorite pastimes. As Norm Duke rightly pointed out, there are many reasons for the decline of bowling, but not the least of which is technology itself, not only in the reach of it to audiences around the world, but within the game itself.
Technology has changed the way the game is played dramatically, not only with the advent of what is commonly now known as the "two-handers," (In truth, there is no such thing as a "two-handed bowler," unless it is a young child rolling the ball down a dinosaur ramp) but also the cost of being able to participate skyrocketed in comparison to other sports competing for time slots and sponsorship dollars, and also alumni dollars (more on that later).
The average cost to run a center has also increased, but more importantly, the average cost for a person of any age to compete even on a league level, and reach the status of professional through hard work and practice, is astronomical in comparison to other sports mentioned, and when compared to the rewards one can obtain from being one of the best. All this cost increase came from technology. There is no comparison between any of the other sports cost to reward, as golf, baseball, football and basketball all have professionals that earn millions every year, whereas in bowling it was a milestone when a professional went past the million dollar mark in earnings for a career. So the cost/benefit ratio is not in sync to be able to attract parents to put their children in league every week on Saturday, when the fields are so much greener for them in other sports that don't cost as much, and can bring their children, and hence them in almost 100% of the cases, big monies for themselves and the family if their child succeeds at the chosen sport. It's a sad fact that greed and avarice have badly affected the field of true sport. Without sponsors outside of the game, bowling will continue to languish well behind other sports that are much easier on the parental pocketbook when choosing which the children will participate in, and continue to participate. Right now, the average cost to keep being competitive is going to cost at least one to two thousand a year in equipment alone, let alone league fees, tournament fees, travel to tournaments, etc. And the rewards of scholarship to college are meager when compared to the other sports, which also affects parental thinking for their long-term desire for success of all their children, which is what the very technological device that has caused the boost in greed and avarice, the "boob tube" as my father called it, preaches to them every week, programming them to believe that if you don't have a sheepskin on the wall, you are a failure at life. See how even education weaves into the quilt of choices, and the career path choices that are made, all from "programming." There is no dishonest trade, skilled or unskilled, and many don't require a sheepskin on the wall. When will parents wake up, and when will our darling elected officials bring back our manufacturing base to provide good high paying jobs that help our communities as a whole? Technology affected all these as well.
Technology no doubt can be a wonderful thing, but also the worst thing at the same time.
Kyle Troup is Bob Ross If he ended up becoming a pro bowler instead of a Painter.
Or Richard Simmons
Kyle troupe did a video about the original phaze when it released that was like a bob ross parody
I have a meme on that
Lmao yeah that is so true
wow, this deserves more views...
Watching this again because I just got the pop-up notification for it
This was awesome. So well done. What is great weather people like Belmo or not is how he has grown into an ambassador of the game of bowling. Learned from his mistakes of crunching bottles and some other poor etiquette. To become possibly the greatest bowler in history certainly on his way to become that. To see how he handles himself on and off the lanes is great to see. This has been the best year for the PBA in a long time I love that this sport is gaining more momentum every telecast. PBA playoffs is sweet to watch the world series is unreal but always my favorites to watch the Majors.
Need more episodes for sure!
The video repeats itself a lot, it’s a great sport! I remember Bob Strampe ‘s unique way of holding the ball and local pros Buzz Fazio and Joe Joesph
Awesome segment!
This was really cool, thanks for sharing this.
I remember when I was 11 I was with my friends bowling casually on a Saturday night and when we got done and we went home I said to my dad can I get my own bowling ball and he said why and I said because I have finally found something I am truly passionate about. I am 16 now and btw and I am a 2 hander when I started and I have come a long way. I have the average in various leagues that is the level of college players and I love bowling so much and I cannot wait for what the future holds
bowling is life !!!!!!!
I could probably listen to Norm Duke talk all day.
When I met him I felt the same way, easily one of the realest and kindest souls on tour no doubt
This is awesome!
I want to play bowling now
I'm working on an eye-opening video and I plan to use clips from this video. This is a great production! Thank you for doing this and sharing it!
Will there be a part 2?
People get frustrated about Belmonte changing things up, and I get it. It's a different world, but I've seen video games that I used to love playing "devolve" into something completely different... But they only reason they're still up and running to this day is because they have changed along with their audience. What would you rather have - Bowling die as a sport because nobody changes things up and the youth isn't interested, or bowling live on with the youth being interested in all the new exciting things happening?
I wish Pete Weber was I this ☹️😭😭
Same
ESPN did a 20 for 20 Documentary on Pete Weber a few years back: th-cam.com/video/kV4Ph1F6RgE/w-d-xo.html
So you would of wanted to see a self-centered person talk about themself on a telecast based on trying to grow the sport of bowling with the public?
bruh norm speaking facts
I wonder what the song is
I like the music
I’m 18 years old now, Senior in high school about to sign a letter of intent to bowl collegiate. I’ve bowled league since I was in the 3rd grade. I’d bowled 1 handed up until my sophomore year of high school and then I saw Jason Belmonte bowl 2 handed and said to myself imma do that. Just recently bowled my highest game a 267.
That's awesome, What college if you don't mind me asking?
@@themachine9000 Tiffin University, it’s small D2 school in Ohio
@@jacobfawcett569 sweet, personally I'm going for Wichita 🤟🤟
@@themachine9000 oooh that’s a great bowling school! produces a lot of pro bowlers
5 and 7 degrees at the pocket is the optimal strike, fun fact for those who care
Loved this!!!!! #Bowler4Life #PBAIsMyChoice
Why isn't Pete Weber featured Hmm?
Or they didn’t want him on the video
Norm Duke: “Nobody’s ever averaged 230 on the pba tour”
EJ Tackett in 2024:
Bravo to the network and the PBA for this. Well done.
But, where's the money?
These poor guys can't make NEAR what their earlier peers did.
Come on, Tom Clark and staff. Work for sponsors. Get these guys paid like they were in the 80's.
Norm duke. The greatest man ever lived.
Left pocket is actually the best bc of gravity
*it matters* I like this guy.
Parker Bohn III. That's who I wanted to emulate.
A lot of people say bowling isn't a sport but let me ask you this do you have to compete against people in order for something to be a sport?... Yes.. Then that's bowling you compete not only against other people but also against yourself. You compete against yourself by trying to become even better than you were the last time. Like this comment if this makes sense to you
I’m surprised belmonte new a lot bout golf
one of the main problems i see with bowling now is the fact that most people go into the center and rent shoes and use an alley plastic ball and they can't recreate what they see on tv. a lot of people i see throwing 2 finger kinda like tom daugherty because it's the only way they can get the ball to hook at all. the fact that you have to go in and buy hundreds sometimes thousands of dollars of equipment turns a lot of people off, all the popular sports like baseball basketball football all the equipment is already provided for you. the equipment provided at bowling centers is sub-par and a lot of aging centers lacking funding and updates appear old and grungy, lanes aren't oiled as often even for some leagues. the entire experience costs way more than ever and doesn't last as long for the money as playing a full game of any of the top sports does. not to mention at the top level only the top 20 maybe 30 guys per year make any real money, the rest are barely getting by. there's a lot that has to change if bowling is to ever get seriously popular again, not to mention all other major sports have regional teams that fans get behind simply by living there or being born there (which is absurd but that's a whole other topic) whereas bowling is mostly individual. the closest analog would be golf but golf is white collar prestige, refined, and in most cases costs even more than bowling but still takes a full day not just 1-2 hours and courses are maintained better, even public city courses.
there's a lot more issues covered, namely that while some may call jason 'the tiger woods of bowling' because of how he's changed the game, there's no superstar world #1 multi-racial cool dude for bowling, it's seen largely as a white male dominated game and in the modern world that's the opposite of cool.
Soccer is the most difficult sport no breaks
I want to meet Jason Belmonte
Walter Ray is the "greatest".
Great video but get rid of all those overdone pauses and it will help the views!! Just sayin!
They allowed for the original version's commercial breaks (and TH-cam). I'm find with that
The thing that makes bowling so terrible is the horrible lane conditions that the lane man doesn't know are care about whether you the bowler can perform when the lanes are not conditioned properly since the house has to pay for the conditioner and the maintenance of the machines. Recently, the person working the lanes said it doesn't matter if the lanes haven't been oiled because the oil is down at the other end near the pins. In the old days Bill Glenn at the Ozark Bowl in Springfield, Missouri would go down to the other end of the lane and mop up the oil ; today they just stand behind the counter and wait for the money. St,. Charles, Lanes is now in Chapter 11 Bankruptcy because they cater to the Linndenwood, University bowling teams and let them bowl for nearly nothing and in addition to that they also cater to the handy capped and they bowl for nearly nothing as a result prices have to go up on open play and on drinks. It is not cheap to maintain a bowling center; the parking lot costs a great deal just to maintain it. The utilities alone cost a large center thousands of dollars every month. If you let the lanes set there without bowlers and people don't rent shoes that are skilled and if they can't bowl good scores they aren't going to keep bowling at that house. This problem has long been the affliction of bowling centers because the management is just trying to make a free lunch and he doesn't care if you bowl Seriously or not. In fact the manager at the Ozark Bowl on Glenstone spent as much time at night with women in the back seat than he did managing the center . . I know I worked there for 6 years.
Where I live here in the Oklahoma City metro area, in the past 20 years or more, there have been around 7 bowling centers that have closed. I do know if it is popularity or what not but it is sad to see.
Why would you post something like this? This comment and specifically listing particular houses is in bad taste. Some of your remarks could be considered slander, they are completely irrelevant to this video, and your entitled to your personal opinions but not to run down businesses in a public forum by name and location. That's just bad taste, uncalled for, and wrong.
@@matthewfrancis9237 sorry for the above response and it as NOT made by ME. ..The other person,who I share a computer with ,made this post. and I have since told him to remove my email from his computer.
Bowling is not a sport!
Best sport for unhealthy people
Most of this was just Jason Belmonte 🤢