I was shocked to learn that this 737 was the one that I took a few years ago on a flight between Jeju and Seoul Gimpo. Rest in peace to everyone who died.
@@TonzOfWattzI’m pretty sure he meant the EXACT plane not airline. People can find which airplane is which by using there registrations. Every registrations is a different aircraft.
@@travelkingdom8987 I know that as I watched it lived but it is still an incident on the first day of the year so I'm just listing, not downplaying the difference between indicents but it is still probably one of the best demonstration of an emergency evacuation fast and efficient. It is still unbelievable to me to see most part of the plane obliterated by a unthinkable localizer concrete wall.
Something also happened with the method used during landing. No gear, no flaps should be surviveable and even uneventful. This kind of emergency landing has been executed successfully many times with no injuries. It appears the crew attempted to go around after touchdown, or landed much too far down the runway. This will be pilot error despite the mechanical issues.
@@carlvincent12 and an EMAS could've saved them too. saw the video probably late touchdown but it is what it is. the maintenance record needs to be looked at though
@@Akash-uq8wg Something really wrong happened. Maybe a latent faulty gear lock system? Will only know when the report come in. Don't know how a bird strike would cause this. Also there was some other error, belly landings shouldn't necessarily cause this disaster.
There is no way a bird strike can cause multiple systems and their backups to fail simultaneously. I betting it was human error combined with maintenance.
The raw footage shows a wheels up landing, hot and deep along the runway. No emergency was declared and no emergency vehicals were deployed prior to the landing. It's early doors but at this stage pilot error can't be counted out.
Looking at the accident and statistics I'm gonna take a guess and say the current 3 survivors are probably the only survivors. The crash doesn't look very survivable.
Just a few thoughts on this as a fellow av-geek: -First and foremost, my sincerest condolences, thoughts, and prayers go out to the victims, their families, and everyone affected by this devastating accident. -Regarding the plane's speed, it seems far too fast for a belly landing. Typically, a much slower speed is necessary for such an emergency maneuver. -Was this truly the only viable runway? Wouldn't it have been safer to divert to an alternative airport, like Busan's Gimhae Airport or Incheon Airport, which have longer runways and could facilitate a safer landing? -I'm skeptical about the explanation that a bird strike caused the landing gear malfunction. Bird strikes more commonly impact the engines rather than the landing gear's functionality. -This incident raises serious concerns about JejuAir’s safety policies. Are there adequate measures in place to handle emergencies like this?
Bird strike may not cause gear malfunction directly but if both engines failed there would be no hydraulic pressure to lower the gear normally so it would have to be gravity extended. But it looks like the reverser deployed so they must have had something unless that’s the cowling/reverser doors breaking off
It's all inconclusive at the moment. It seems that once they committed to the landing they too had no choice but to bring down the plane from that moment on. But it's all guess work right now, too many things which we need a conclusive timeline for in order to explain.
"Fantastic track record" Published: 11 Mar. 2022, 17:13 The government on Friday grounded some flights by Jeju Air and Aero K Airlines for failing to follow safety protocol. Additionally, the licenses of 10 pilots and maintenance crew members have been temporarily suspended, with the suspensions ranging from 15 days to 60 days..........
Some witness account a compressor stall on engine 2, that may explain why they didn’t take the time to set the aircraft and electrically deploy flaps and the same for the landing gear using gravity method. The plane was at full capacity and I’m not sure if a 737 can fly at low altitude without flaps and slats.
Horrible. Similar problem took place with Boeing in Warsaw, Poland not long ago. But the pilots of Polish LOT airline followed all checklist procedures to save their passengers and nobody was even hurt: circled the airport while dumping all fuel prior to landing and belly landed on a prepared surface which minimized any damage and chances of fire. All hospitals in the area were notified and firemen waited along the runway. Here, the videos show that nobody got prepared for his landing.
1. If the landing gears weren’t deployed, why didn’t they do a go around to try again? 2. If the pilots couldn’t detect landing gear failure, there are many other mechanisms to alert them and the information would have been relayed to the ATC. 3. Why is there no information from the ATC yet about any communication before the incident? 4. If they were indeed preparing for a crash landing, they could have easily diverted to nearby better equipped airports with longer runway. Why didn’t they?
Boeing is as shoddy as their fanboys... Wait and see a few more months (instead minutes) to read the air crash report and find about Boeing's fault or not!
@@stennordenmalm1735the 737NG family is one of the safest and most reliable planes in the sky. It’s also the most common plane in the world. There is nothing wrong with it. This is a maintenance issue by a budget airline
Something is not adding up even when the bird strike at the right engine, flaps and slats are out but no spoilers or thrustrevsers. hopefully they did not shut the wrong engine.
It looks to me, that he aircraft touched down pretty far down the runway with no flaps. Fast, wheels up landing, would need all the runway possible. RIP to all onboard.
This accident does not make sense, the 737 gear can be released manually even if hydraulic system A is lost, flaps also have alternate methods of lowering.
@@tomstravels520if it broke due to a huge external force (i.e. friction with the runway), you cannot blame Boeing for that. If thrust reversers are supposed to remain intact from a force like that, then Airbus must go through equal scrutiny for choosing to not do belly landing tests with their planes?
Jeju is reported here to have a very good safety record so maintenance serms to have been good - so far. Landing half way down the runway with no slats or flaps engaged seems much more than a bird strike issue. Methinks this needs resolution fast and that's possible since both black box recorders have been recovered. The age of the aeroplane at 15 years doesn't seem overly long so id be looking at a plane malfunction.
A very strange disaster. What looks like a bird strike or compressor stall on approach would not affect all 3 hydraulic systems. Gear can be lowered manually. No flaps, spoilers or slats indicating hydraulic failure, or something else. What seems like reverse thrust deployed on #2 engine could be physical damage on scraping along runway. If only #2 thrust reverser was deployed this should have resulted in asymmetric momentum yawing the aircraft to the right. To me it sounds like the engines are on TOGA power during the belly landing which explains the extreme speed and no slowing down. (listen to the full sequence with good sound system) Could the pilots have been attempting to take off? Why is the nose so high and never lowers? Could the crew have gotten so distracted by whatever happened to #2 engine on approach that they forgot to extend flaps and gear, (or like the PIA crash each pilot was doing something different - go around or land) then tried to abort a semi belly landing and take off after realizing their mistakes, only the extreme sliding resistance, and possible damage to engines retarded this action and they slammed into a fully reinforced concrete wall at near take off speed!!
The flight data shows the plane landing on runway 01 but the crash video shows it landing on 19, which is pointed to the south. You can tell because the control is on the left side of the airplane. What's up with that? Did it fly straight in or what?
Another Asiana 214? This is a runway almost 10,000 feet in length. Long way to skid on your belly if you landed near the piano keys. If it was hydraulic failure and a flapless belly landing there was up to 13,000 feet at Inchon. Reason I mentioned Asiana 214 was the inability those pilots to fly an approach without the ILS. A flapless landing will be faster and flatter so the approach has to be adjusted accordingly. Was this beyond the ability of the pilots who needed to fly an ILS approach? That would mean landing very long with no hope of stopping.
The flaps and slats were deployed; It showed a standard approach speed of 144 knots. If there were no flaps it would have stalled well before then. But, you can see the leading edge slats clearly out in the video.
@@Klp578 It looks to me like they decided to go around, but decided too late. Once the airplane made contact with the runway, they were stuck and also with too much airsoeed and too far past the touchdown zone.
From the crash video, at least to me, the aircraft touched down at a very high speed, which seemed abnormally high, even for an aircraft with no flaps or slats. However, it also looked like, at least from the video, like the aircraft touched down late, an absolute no-no in a situation where the only means of slowing down were the reversers. There was nothing they could do to avoid the ILS embankment from there. This looks like it’s going to be a long investigation. Hopefully it’s solved soon though, because this was the worst ever accident of a 737NG and the worst accident of the decade, in both cases surpassing UIA 752. RIP to all the victims of this tragedy.❤️🕊
What on earth a concrete wall doing at the end of the runway ? ? Can anyone explain ? If the idea was to prevent airplanes from running off the runway it clearly did not work ...
@ but once maintenance works on parts, the parts in question are the responsibility of maintenance. Any moving part on a 15 year old plane would have gone through maintenance at least once.
I watched this video of the crash, If you are going to watch it Perpare yourself!, I watched it and went "Normal Belly Landing" followed by a broken "Oh My god" and tears up and started breathing heavily, i don't know why it hit so close..
Doesn't really make sense - unable to lower any of the 3 gears through manual gear extension? Speed also looks super fast. Unable to go around after using up too much runway before touchdown? RIP
As per the circulating video the 737 clearly touched down on RWY 19 at Muan airport. Flightradar 24 track gives the impression it was headed for RWY 01
@tariqm6697bird strike disables the engines, which disables the hydraulic system. But I don't know why the pilots didn't use the back up system. Gravity
This crash brings up a lot of questions. The main one. Could the end result have been avoided. Idk anything about aviation. But maybe make a few fly arounds to see if gear would go down. Also using up more of the fuel. Can these planes drop fuel. Leaving only enough to land the plane. Was there a runway with no barrier or longer. Like I said. I don’t know anything about aviation. But I’m sure a lot of people here do.
This is they called it Decision Making, which supposed to done by pilot, they have gathered as much as possible information, all risk management , calculation of fuel, runway available and all aspect and then take the prioritized it before taking the decision.
To me it seems like the pilots were unable to land but had to , flaps & slats 0, No spoilers deployed , No landing gear, plane seems like to be in a higher thrust setting given that its not slowing down after the belly landing , speaking of engines reverse thrust is also not deployed on left hand side note that rhs engine suffered damage due to bird strike.anyways its too soon to make assumptions without clarity on what happened. Prayers for the victims and their families
I would say Boeing has another 180 lawsuits on their hands, but this isn’t a Boeing 737 Max. That doesn’t matter though, after all the E190 (AKA the military variant of the Boeing 737 Max) smashed into the ground recently just as I predicted. All Boeing had to do with extended landing gear and none of this would’ve happened but no they had to be high on drugs and instead ask a military software to do a civilians job. Anyway, if the Boeing 707 can be called the KC135 why can’t the Boeing 737 Max be called the E190? (Original comment made by my brother I don’t want any abusive replies please) P.S: “ I don’t blame Boeing for this crash, this is a tragic accident simple as that!”
So, how is it Boeing's fault that a fifteen year old plane couldn't extend its gear? Why not question whether the maintenance crew screwed up or not rather than immediately blaming the manufacturer
That’s a good question, well similar to the Boeing 767 landing. They probably thought it was a nuisance but history repeated itself only this time with a much darker outcome. However this has nothing to do with the length of the landing gear or MCAS so for this one I’m just going to say that It was a tragic accident and a tragic version of that Boeing 767 landing of what could’ve happened if the speed had been either higher or if the runway had been shorter. What I’m trying to say is I’m not blaming Boeing for this now if this happened to max maybe I would be saying something different out of spite but because this is the Boeing 737-800 with its engines placed on the wings properly I would be a fool to blame Boeing for this.
Looked to me like the belly landing could have been handled a lot better, runway with no wall at the end maybe? Burn off more fuel, different airport, water landing so many more options!
I was shocked to learn that this 737 was the one that I took a few years ago on a flight between Jeju and Seoul Gimpo. Rest in peace to everyone who died.
It used to fly under ryan air, so many more people here could have had a history with this plane
You was shocked it was a company you flew with years ago while others are shocked people died.🙅
@@TonzOfWattzyes exactly
@@TonzOfWattzI’m pretty sure he meant the EXACT plane not airline. People can find which airplane is which by using there registrations. Every registrations is a different aircraft.
Prayers for the families who lost loved ones.🙏
15 year old aircraft
Apparently declared a mechanical emergency just a few days before the crash
I would scrutinize its maintenance history heavily
While they have also placed orders for 737-8 MAX aircrafts
@@TheRussianFloofCat It has been reported that it was a passenger related emergency
@@thisiskevin1000 most airlines have. That really isn’t the problem here
@@xelerade3941 it may be. Hard to put much weight on reports at the moment with there still being so many unknowns with the crash
too early to point at something. could boeings fault, maintenance fault, pilots fault, airport design fault etc.
So many high profile crashes this year, and incredible how they've all been on video, RIP to all the lives lost.
Not incredible when everyone has a camera in their pocket.
@@fastica camera is common. Free time is rare
hIGH PROFILE? huh?
Two airliners this week...
4 if you count the JAL and AA groundings.
Btw nice toaster pfp.
KLM 737-800 emergency landing at Oslo due to hydraulic issue today
Don't forget DHL 737-400
In 20 hours
The Boeing 737 passenger airliner was grounded worldwide between March 2019 and December 2020 and again in 2024.
Already this crash is now the deadliest of the year…the year started and ended HORRIBLY for aviation. I PRAY that 2025 will give us a respite…
LOL come down, debbie downy. Still better than any year before 2001. Traveling by air is still unbelievably safe. You can't convince me other wise.
They say aviation safety is improving. I highly doubt that. The world is going backwards since 2020, so does everything else.
This year started with JAL A350 and coast guard collision now ending with JJA B738 crash landing and we still have 3 days to go...
ok
lmfaoooo bruhhhh, that's an air traffic control problem and nothing else. You need to stop. Plus,e veryone on that airbus survived. Period
At least the A350 JAL have all survivors
@@travelkingdom8987 I know that as I watched it lived but it is still an incident on the first day of the year so I'm just listing, not downplaying the difference between indicents but it is still probably one of the best demonstration of an emergency evacuation fast and efficient. It is still unbelievable to me to see most part of the plane obliterated by a unthinkable localizer concrete wall.
A KLM 737 did an emergency landing in Norway today due to hydraulic failure and smoke from 1 engine
I have heard about this but i didnt know what airplaine it was but thank you for the information😊😮
and air canada express crash
@@AdrenalineLegends Really i havent heard anything about that
No gear, no flaps and slats, no spoilers…. Seems like another hydraulic issue. But landing gear should be able to extend manually.
Something also happened with the method used during landing. No gear, no flaps should be surviveable and even uneventful.
This kind of emergency landing has been executed successfully many times with no injuries. It appears the crew attempted to go around after touchdown, or landed much too far down the runway. This will be pilot error despite the mechanical issues.
Absolute BOEING failure. That's crazy
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 lmao because boeing is responsible for prior 15 years of maintenance? stick to doing stupid business videos please
Compared to the LOT that landed without gear back in 2011, it appeared to be moving at higher speed.
@@carlvincent12 and an EMAS could've saved them too. saw the video probably late touchdown but it is what it is. the maintenance record needs to be looked at though
Two air disasters in a week? That's 2 days apart compared to Japan having an earthquake & a runway collision just 24 hours apart..
One was shot down by Putin. Another one had a failed landing gear, which is another BOEING problem lmfao
You know that this 737 is 15 years old? You're just a airbus fan trying to make this about boeing@@arsenioseslpodcast3143
The same aircraft had a diversion with the squawk 7700, two days before the crash..
I heard….
Very interesting
That doesn’t look good for the airline
It was a medical emergency on board to Beijing, that’s why they diverted
@ but the gear?
This plane squawked 7700 yesterday apparently due to a Hydraulic systems issue
Landing gear should be able to go down even without hydraulics though
I hope the maintenance team did not deactivated something 😢
Interesting. Another news outlet blamed a bird 🙄
@@sierramikekilo6925yes with the garvity. But then it can fail to lock in place. But it looks like that wasn't done
@@Akash-uq8wg Something really wrong happened. Maybe a latent faulty gear lock system? Will only know when the report come in. Don't know how a bird strike would cause this. Also there was some other error, belly landings shouldn't necessarily cause this disaster.
You can't always relax when you think you've landed, it's not over until you come to a safe complete stop and you get off the plane.
WE WENT 3 DAYS without a plane crash.
One was shot down. That has nothing to do with a plan. That's typical Russian. Does not count. This one has BOEING failure written all ove rit
To all the Boeing haters. Get a life . This airplane was 15 years old and suffered a bird strike. Boeing had no role in the accident .
There is no way a bird strike can cause multiple systems and their backups to fail simultaneously. I betting it was human error combined with maintenance.
@@orbitalpotato9940 boeing failure
Says the dimwitted Airbus hater who cried two days ago about the A350. "Lol, Liam, you are not much of a difference next to the 737 Max's legacy."
@davidpark2509 so you're going to immediately ignore that this could be a maintenance screw up?
The raw footage shows a wheels up landing, hot and deep along the runway. No emergency was declared and no emergency vehicals were deployed prior to the landing. It's early doors but at this stage pilot error can't be counted out.
What an awful week in aviation. Bless those that are struggling and stay safe. ❤
It exploded after crashing... if anyone is alive I would be surprised
2 survivors apparently, but yeah, it's basically insane amounts of luck at that point. :/
Looking at the accident and statistics I'm gonna take a guess and say the current 3 survivors are probably the only survivors. The crash doesn't look very survivable.
This whole year has been terrible for aviation…
Aviation is safer than ever
I’m not sure if that’s a fair assessment, but there have been a few tragic accidents this year.
Prayers for all 🙏🏻
Dead people can't receive prayers
Horrifying. I feel for the people of South Korea. They have endured quite a lot lately. 😔
Agreed!
Just a few thoughts on this as a fellow av-geek:
-First and foremost, my sincerest condolences, thoughts, and prayers go out to the victims, their families, and everyone affected by this devastating accident.
-Regarding the plane's speed, it seems far too fast for a belly landing. Typically, a much slower speed is necessary for such an emergency maneuver.
-Was this truly the only viable runway? Wouldn't it have been safer to divert to an alternative airport, like Busan's Gimhae Airport or Incheon Airport, which have longer runways and could facilitate a safer landing?
-I'm skeptical about the explanation that a bird strike caused the landing gear malfunction. Bird strikes more commonly impact the engines rather than the landing gear's functionality.
-This incident raises serious concerns about JejuAir’s safety policies. Are there adequate measures in place to handle emergencies like this?
Bird strike may not cause gear malfunction directly but if both engines failed there would be no hydraulic pressure to lower the gear normally so it would have to be gravity extended. But it looks like the reverser deployed so they must have had something unless that’s the cowling/reverser doors breaking off
It's all inconclusive at the moment.
It seems that once they committed to the landing they too had no choice but to bring down the plane from that moment on.
But it's all guess work right now, too many things which we need a conclusive timeline for in order to explain.
May the victims rest in peace, the aviation year is ending on a horrible note 😢
Thanks for this cautious approach to this tragic accident.
News channels are providing pityful comments.
Bruh why have TWO PLANES crashed this week!? Especially during the holidays!!?!?!?!?
1 crash, 1 shot down
It's always at the end/start of the new year
The Boeing 737 passenger airliner was grounded worldwide between March 2019 and December 2020 and again in 2024
One shot down by Putin. Another one failed landing gear = BOEING. Not surprised
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 Dude boeing had nothing to do with these ones.... No immediate sign of manufacturing issues/equipment defect
Thanks for presenting this horrible story the way you did ! That's very professional !
Landing gear failure I understand but why not go around and jettison as much fuel as possible to shed weight & avoid more fire damage?
Discount holiday airlines = ain’t got no time fo’ dat!!
Gotta turn the plane around for the next flight… 🤷
Can't jettison fuel in a 737. Still could have tried to do a holding to burn fuel unless they completely lost hydraulics
@@stevesmoneypit6137That is supposed to be.
This air plane has not jettison but holding burn fuel.
It's a 737, you can't dump fuel.
Man, I’m Korean, and what a mess. :-(
:(
"Fantastic track record"
Published: 11 Mar. 2022, 17:13
The government on Friday grounded some flights by Jeju Air and Aero K Airlines for failing to follow safety protocol.
Additionally, the licenses of 10 pilots and maintenance crew members have been temporarily suspended, with the suspensions ranging from 15 days to 60 days..........
Some witness account a compressor stall on engine 2, that may explain why they didn’t take the time to set the aircraft and electrically deploy flaps and the same for the landing gear using gravity method. The plane was at full capacity and I’m not sure if a 737 can fly at low altitude without flaps and slats.
Horrible. Similar problem took place with Boeing in Warsaw, Poland not long ago. But the pilots of Polish LOT airline followed all checklist procedures to save their passengers and nobody was even hurt: circled the airport while dumping all fuel prior to landing and belly landed on a prepared surface which minimized any damage and chances of fire. All hospitals in the area were notified and firemen waited along the runway. Here, the videos show that nobody got prepared for his landing.
As of Today South Korea time 1:12 there has been 85 Killed so far..Rip to those who perished
179 now, meaning only 2 survived
@everydaywrld7306 Sadly RIP to those who perished and hopefully the 2 survivors might get a quick recovery
Wet lease aircraft, + 15yrs old, overworked pilots and less reputed airlines contribite such mishaps.
This is terrible! ... Thank you for the information like normally clear and consice
Thank you❤ I needed info
In footage ,it was seen belly landing then crashed into a concrete boundary walls n exploded it, if wall was not there ,lives could have spared.
this is not an accident, It is TERROR
Amen save video net❤
The death toll might be as high as 179…
1. If the landing gears weren’t deployed, why didn’t they do a go around to try again?
2. If the pilots couldn’t detect landing gear failure, there are many other mechanisms to alert them and the information would have been relayed to the ATC.
3. Why is there no information from the ATC yet about any communication before the incident?
4. If they were indeed preparing for a crash landing, they could have easily diverted to nearby better equipped airports with longer runway. Why didn’t they?
As of now, 117 are confirmed dead in this crash
167 last I read a few mins ago
I would call it an uncontrolled landing.
What an awful week in the aviation industry 😢
Before the Boing haters come and attack: this incident is NOT BOEING’S FAULT.
Boeing is as shoddy as their fanboys... Wait and see a few more months (instead minutes) to read the air crash report and find about Boeing's fault or not!
It seems so, there was some problems with the landing wheels got stucked
@@stennordenmalm1735the 737NG family is one of the safest and most reliable planes in the sky. It’s also the most common plane in the world. There is nothing wrong with it. This is a maintenance issue by a budget airline
FAILED LANDING GEAR = BOEING'S FAULT!
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143Not really, though we should wait for the preliminary and final report.
Landing gear wasn’t down.
It was reported for bird strike.. but the landing gear also failed to deploy, bad..
Something is not adding up even when the bird strike at the right engine, flaps and slats are out but no spoilers or thrustrevsers. hopefully they did not shut the wrong engine.
It looks to me, that he aircraft touched down pretty far down the runway with no flaps. Fast, wheels up landing, would need all the runway possible. RIP to all onboard.
120 has died in this crash 💔
This accident does not make sense, the 737 gear can be released manually even if hydraulic system A is lost, flaps also have alternate methods of lowering.
And yet reverser door on engine 2 is deployed…..unless it broke
@@tomstravels520if it broke due to a huge external force (i.e. friction with the runway), you cannot blame Boeing for that. If thrust reversers are supposed to remain intact from a force like that, then Airbus must go through equal scrutiny for choosing to not do belly landing tests with their planes?
Is there any chance to install space X's controlled free fall device on flights?
Jeju is reported here to have a very good safety record so maintenance serms to have been good - so far. Landing half way down the runway with no slats or flaps engaged seems much more than a bird strike issue. Methinks this needs resolution fast and that's possible since both black box recorders have been recovered. The age of the aeroplane at 15 years doesn't seem overly long so id be looking at a plane malfunction.
Amen save video net❤
HELO BOING !!
They would have been fine if not for the concrete wall at the end of runway.
"Horrifying?" Come on, man.
The E190 crash now 737?
1 was shot down 1 crash
A very strange disaster. What looks like a bird strike or compressor stall on approach would not affect all 3 hydraulic systems.
Gear can be lowered manually. No flaps, spoilers or slats indicating hydraulic failure, or something else.
What seems like reverse thrust deployed on #2 engine could be physical damage on scraping along runway.
If only #2 thrust reverser was deployed this should have resulted in asymmetric momentum yawing the aircraft to the right.
To me it sounds like the engines are on TOGA power during the belly landing which explains the extreme speed and no slowing down. (listen to the full sequence with good sound system)
Could the pilots have been attempting to take off?
Why is the nose so high and never lowers?
Could the crew have gotten so distracted by whatever happened to #2 engine on approach that they forgot to extend flaps and gear, (or like the PIA crash each pilot was doing something different - go around or land) then tried to abort a semi belly landing and take off after realizing their mistakes, only the extreme sliding resistance, and possible damage to engines retarded this action and they slammed into a fully reinforced concrete wall at near take off speed!!
No gear, no flaps, no slats. Very odd.
Omg 😢😢😢 so sorry for the lost. 😞
Amen save video net❤
God have mercy on us!
The Flight has the numbers 7C2216, "2216" is also the mailing address Postcode of the suburb where I live, in Rockdale.
Pilot didn’t report anything? I find it strange. Unless maybe it was a health issue & that’s why they crashed?
Owhh..baru balik berpoya poya di Thailand.Kira puashati juga la,sempat juga kunjungi syurganya dunia.
The flight data shows the plane landing on runway 01 but the crash video shows it landing on 19, which is pointed to the south. You can tell because the control is on the left side of the airplane. What's up with that? Did it fly straight in or what?
Nothing on Azerbaijan Airlines crash?
I was expecting DJ to cover that one too :/
Another Asiana 214? This is a runway almost 10,000 feet in length. Long way to skid on your belly if you landed near the piano keys. If it was hydraulic failure and a flapless belly landing there was up to 13,000 feet at Inchon. Reason I mentioned Asiana 214 was the inability those pilots to fly an approach without the ILS. A flapless landing will be faster and flatter so the approach has to be adjusted accordingly. Was this beyond the ability of the pilots who needed to fly an ILS approach? That would mean landing very long with no hope of stopping.
For average weight landing flaps less about 1800 m with landing gear available, this belly landing ? While runway available is 2800 m
There is an alternate flap extension system and ability to gravity drop the gear
The flaps and slats were deployed; It showed a standard approach speed of 144 knots. If there were no flaps it would have stalled well before then. But, you can see the leading edge slats clearly out in the video.
@@rodbritton360 If so, this is not systems problem, as it was looks a like touch down just prior to opposite runway touchdown area.
@@Klp578 It looks to me like they decided to go around, but decided too late. Once the airplane made contact with the runway, they were stuck and also with too much airsoeed and too far past the touchdown zone.
This is such a safe airline. It’s the Ryanair of Asia😢
From the crash video, at least to me, the aircraft touched down at a very high speed, which seemed abnormally high, even for an aircraft with no flaps or slats. However, it also looked like, at least from the video, like the aircraft touched down late, an absolute no-no in a situation where the only means of slowing down were the reversers. There was nothing they could do to avoid the ILS embankment from there. This looks like it’s going to be a long investigation. Hopefully it’s solved soon though, because this was the worst ever accident of a 737NG and the worst accident of the decade, in both cases surpassing UIA 752. RIP to all the victims of this tragedy.❤️🕊
Do you not find it odd that there was an Air Canada plane that landed yesterday without its landing gear? Just odd.
What on earth a concrete wall doing at the end of the runway ? ? Can anyone explain ? If the idea was to prevent airplanes from running off the runway it clearly did not work ...
Probably jet blast protection for the road behind it. Something like that.
It didn't veer off the runway; it overran it at great speed and crashed into that stupid instrument wall - straight ahead
What's happening in 2024 :((
May their souls Rest In Peace 🙏 🕊️ ❤️
Landing gear malfunctioned. As usual, Boeing maintains it's consistent third class quality.
And you completely ignored the Azerbaijan Airlines crash, not a single post about it...
Were they not people?!
Boeing strikes again
The aircraft involved is 15 years old at the time of the crash, so it has gone through, or should’ve gone through, maintenance multiple times.
15 years for This Type is middle aged.
@ but once maintenance works on parts, the parts in question are the responsibility of maintenance. Any moving part on a 15 year old plane would have gone through maintenance at least once.
I watched this video of the crash, If you are going to watch it Perpare yourself!, I watched it and went "Normal Belly Landing" followed by a broken "Oh My god" and tears up and started breathing heavily, i don't know why it hit so close..
Doesn't really make sense - unable to lower any of the 3 gears through manual gear extension? Speed also looks super fast. Unable to go around after using up too much runway before touchdown?
RIP
It was the second attempt to land - they'd already done one touch-and-go.
The video of the crash is horrific.
As per the circulating video the 737 clearly touched down on RWY 19 at Muan airport. Flightradar 24 track gives the impression it was headed for RWY 01
The possible cause was a bird strike, but report not finalised yet, 47 fatalities, 2 survivors , 181 total
How tf does a bird strike stop a landing gear to deploy 🤦♂️😭😭
@tariqm6697Bird strike, hit wing/ enters engine sever hydraulics pipes in the wing, hydraulic fluid leaks, no hydraulics, no gear
@tariqm6697bird strike disables the engines, which disables the hydraulic system.
But I don't know why the pilots didn't use the back up system. Gravity
@tariqm6697 AND they could be on descivion altitude and not noticed gear wasn’t down, because the bird strike might have affected the FMC as well
@@Dynasty0612maybe the loss of engines, loss of fmc then. no gear failure warning
So crazy, was just at Seoul-Incheon yesterday
A reinforced concrete wall at the end of a runway ? Dear Lord.
This crash brings up a lot of questions. The main one. Could the end result have been avoided. Idk anything about aviation. But maybe make a few fly arounds to see if gear would go down. Also using up more of the fuel. Can these planes drop fuel. Leaving only enough to land the plane. Was there a runway with no barrier or longer. Like I said. I don’t know anything about aviation. But I’m sure a lot of people here do.
This is they called it Decision Making, which supposed to done by pilot, they have gathered as much as possible information, all risk management , calculation of fuel, runway available and all aspect and then take the prioritized it before taking the decision.
New fear unlocked: driving in a plane in the same week of a plane crash
Driving in an airplane = failed English lmfao
I want to know how you can drive in a plane lol
Crashed with birds.
Did it veer off the runway?
Pray for us 🙏
Runway was way too short for an emergency landing. 2800m
all commercial crashes of 2024 had been caugjt on camera
Let’s start blaming Russia Russia Russia…
To me it seems like the pilots were unable to land but had to , flaps & slats 0, No spoilers deployed , No landing gear, plane seems like to be in a higher thrust setting given that its not slowing down after the belly landing , speaking of engines reverse thrust is also not deployed on left hand side note that rhs engine suffered damage due to bird strike.anyways its too soon to make assumptions without clarity on what happened. Prayers for the victims and their families
Wow that’s something!😮
After 3 days before Azerbaijan Flight 8243 crash, now this jejuair flight 2216 Crash. 2024 is the tragedy year in aviations. 😢
I just read that these planes are built and maintained to the highest diversity standards.
4 in one week?? kazakhstan airline, jeju airlines, klm skids off runway, now Air Canada.
Jeju air -> read tier lower than ryan air ... flown on this airline few times and OMG .......
I would say Boeing has another 180 lawsuits on their hands, but this isn’t a Boeing 737 Max.
That doesn’t matter though, after all the E190 (AKA the military variant of the Boeing 737 Max) smashed into the ground recently just as I predicted.
All Boeing had to do with extended landing gear and none of this would’ve happened but no they had to be high on drugs and instead ask a military software to do a civilians job.
Anyway, if the Boeing 707 can be called the KC135 why can’t the Boeing 737 Max be called the E190?
(Original comment made by my brother I don’t want any abusive replies please)
P.S: “ I don’t blame Boeing for this crash, this is a tragic accident simple as that!”
So, how is it Boeing's fault that a fifteen year old plane couldn't extend its gear?
Why not question whether the maintenance crew screwed up or not rather than immediately blaming the manufacturer
That’s a good question, well similar to the Boeing 767 landing.
They probably thought it was a nuisance but history repeated itself only this time with a much darker outcome.
However this has nothing to do with the length of the landing gear or MCAS so for this one I’m just going to say that It was a tragic accident and a tragic version of that Boeing 767 landing of what could’ve happened if the speed had been either higher or if the runway had been shorter.
What I’m trying to say is I’m not blaming Boeing for this now if this happened to max maybe I would be saying something different out of spite but because this is the Boeing 737-800 with its engines placed on the wings properly I would be a fool to blame Boeing for this.
1 week, 2 plane crashes, nearly 100 people died.
Looked to me like the belly landing could have been handled a lot better, runway with no wall at the end maybe? Burn off more fuel, different airport, water landing so many more options!
You don’t know what was going on before the video started so please stop speculating