What is Sludge Metal? (MOG)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2023
- In this second episode on Doom Metal, we tackle it's bitter brother: Sludge Metal. I do not own the music. It is for educational purposes, as always. I do not make any money from this channel, so donations are appreciated. ko-fi.com/whatsinameme
Songs used: Southern Discomfort, and Serving Time in the Middle of Nowhere by EyeHateGod. Children of the Grave by Black Sabbath. Rise Above by Black Flag. Lifer, and Stained Glass Cross by Down. Iron Tusk, and I Am Ahab by Mastodon. ...And Suffer As One by Crowbar. Save Me by Damageplan. 2 x 4, Devil's Dance, The End of the Line, and Dream No More by Metallica. War Nerve, The Great Southern Trendkill, Suicide Note Parts 1 and 2 by Pantera. It Ain't Like That by Alice In Chains.
I love how most of these bands aren't even sludge bands, to be fair crowbar and eyehategod are sludge, and down I'd consider sludge
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It is one of the BEST metal genres
THE best.
There’s other genres?
Acid bath is one of the greatest metal bands of all time
Agree
i was on the edge of my seat looking if he would mention acid bath
@@fop3146 unfortunately, he didn't, also sad that he didn't mention grief, buzzoven, melvins, flipper or noothgrush
Yes, sir
Sludge is such an underrated genre, Acid Bath and 16's early work (Curves that kick, Drop Out) are some of my favs. But no mention of Melvins??? Appriciate u name dropping AiC tho, they dont get enough validity in the sludge world, while most of their work is heavily sludge infused, and even Acid Bath were influenced by AiC according to Sammy Duet
What i love about sludge is the fact the bands that play this style are more hardcore influence than sabbath influence
Serious thanks to you for introducing us to Sludge Metal & Post Metal. I have really been digging bands like Neurosis & Crowbar. Eyehategod & Acid bath are amazing too.
I’m glad someone pointed out Alice In Chains and Metallica’s sludge tendencies. AiC has had them throughout their albums and despite Load/Reload reception among fans, I really fuck with those sludgy songs
Vocalist of Eyehategod said in one of interviews that they are Punk, Metal and Noise'y...They are one of those bands which unites Punks and Metalheads 🤘
There is good document film about Sludge and Southern scene. Is worthy to watch, very informative documentary. It should be still on TH-cam.
Doom as a whole is surprisingly the heaviest Metal genre imo. It's just so raw man. Sludge is awesome🤘🏾
big, slow grooves = heavy. I love some fast stuff too, but if you want heavy, you gotta slow it down and hit the chug!
@@dylanadams1455 definitely
Dude this video is so good. As I’m listening to more sludge I’m gonna keep coming back and watching it to see how my views change. I’m coming back after listening and loving Down’s nola. I’ll probably check out crowbar next.
Acid Bath bro, that’s all there is to it.
Do one on industrial metal it will be amazing 😍
Love This Series So Far!! Keep It Up Mate
I have sort of well-rounded taste in metal, but I keep coming back to sludge and sludge-adjacente genres. This sort of sweet pocket between sludge and post-metal is my jam.
Your metal genres videos are amazing
Down is the G.O.A.T.
Amen
@@whatsinameme5258 agree 💯💯💯💯💯
Having just heard about eye hate god and a couple other Louisiana metal bands literally just yesterday, this is a most timely video, thanks
Man thanks a lot for making these videos, they helped me find other bands that I end up REALLY liking (And as a alice in chains fanboy that reference was spot on)
Bro first vid I ever saw from u and instanly followed, been lovin sludge for years but never knew the background, thank u for expanding my playlist as well :D
As a fellow content creator I wish u the best for the future keep up the good work ✌🖤
Had a bit of a Doom, Sludge Metal phase in my early 20s back in like 2012. This had to be right after I discovered Metalcore but I still wanted something heavy. Acid Bath, Electric Wizard and Pentagram got me through my "community college ain't for me but I don't feel like working so I'll just live off food stamps and chill at my friend's crib and play video games most days from time to time" period of my life. This led to Prog with bands like Baroness and Mastodon, which led back to the 70s with Pink Floyd, Yes, and Genesis when I eventually found a full time job.
Nowadays I don't have that Doomer mentality of looking down on the world. I rarely get that depressed since I'm a little more humble. Met a lot of people that have it worse. I still go back to those bands especially Pentagram, Witchfinder General and Torche but I'm more into Thrash, Death, and especially Black Metal these days. I have to thank a lot of sludge, deathcore/metalcore for getting me into punk and hardcore music in general though that's for sure.
What metalcore/deathcore bands would you recommend? Always been interested in the genre but I've never fully delved in
@@cheruub2933 Honestly the only bands I listen to on the deathcore end of things are The Red Chord, Suicide Silence and Job For A Cowboy nowadays but there’s like a shit ton of good metalcore bands out there especially modern metalcore. Too many to name here and I’m old so the only ones I could recommend are the ones I grew up with like A7X, Trivium, Killswitch, BMTH, The Dillinger Escape Plan and more recently Converge.
@@DarkMetalGortex Thanks man, I've listened to BMTH and Converge a bit but the others I'll give a good listen
@Cheruub Depends on what you mean by metalcore. Original metalcore is stuff like earth crisis, hatebreed, all out war whereas the 2nd wave of metalcore was more like converge, rorschach, integrity, deadguy, botch and melodic metalcore is stuff like poison the well, as I lay dying, killswitch engage.
To simplify, original metalcore was an off shoot of hardcore punk with some metal, very political, 2nd wave was more becoming its own thing of punk and metal influences, melodic metalcore took the influence of 2nd wave, the sound and aesthetic and made it more accessible and melodic.
I started my journey as a Power Metal kid, and thought "d-death metal is so brutal, only psychos would listen to it"!
Great video dude, Keep it up
Dude longtime Eyehategod fan here and even I now have a much better understanding of the genre this video kicks ass and man Serving time in the middle of nowhere is a good pick
I’m not really into Sludge, but The Ocean is cool. They combine sludge with post-metal and prog.
the AIC to eyehategod pipeline
That is literally my arc
Great video man thank you
Hardcore and doom are my favorite genres so sludge metal I just goes beyond in every way. Eyehategod is one of my all time favorites
I find the lack of Melvins in this video disturbing.
Though I appreciate the upload, these videos are great, never made the connection between metallica and sludge, probably because I didn’t pay enough attention to these albums, will relisten.
Completely agree with your classification
I love That you mention Alice in chains. But what about acid Bath?
I love distortions in metal genres I’ll for sure check this one out
Shoulda definitely put AiC’s Sludge Factory when highlighting AiC being slightly Sludge. Lol
Just listen to Kyuss and Acid Bath and relax to the bubbly noises of the hardcore guitars.
Two points,
One to say that Metallica was influenced by the sludge metal sub genre is awesome that it is recognized (great song choices to use as an example).Plus in my opinion I believe if Metallica did the ‘ol crowbar saying “tune low play slow” when making Load/Reload metal fans in general would’ve found the two albums more palatable.
Two is also cool that you recognize the “sludge metal” sound with (my favorite) the band Alice In Chains, because aside from the bad ass acoustics there distorted songs have that heavy slow sludge vibe especially with the song “Junkhead” and the Dirt album.
Cool video by the way!
The best genre
i think acid bath is worth mention when talking about sludge, just bc theyre cool
I've just noticed I'm subscribed here with the bell, but I haven't gotten a single notification for 3 of the last 5 videos. Meanwhile, on my home page, youtube insists on recommending me half the time videos from more than 5 years ago, despite the constant "not interested" responses I give, and half the videos from the last 3 months, that I've already watched, and youtube knows I've already watched. I'm really hating my recommendations, I've tried doing all the usual things to fix it. Sorry for venting... but yeah, now I have to go back and manually make sure I didn't miss some of your videos.
Well thank you for watching regardless! I know it can be frustrating sometimes.
I've been really wanting to get into crowbar & saint vitus lately, maybe this is the motivation I've needed... lol
anyway, awesome video. keep it up
edit: just wanna mention, I believe alice in chains (or at least early AIC) to be pretty much entirely sludge metal. at least compared to like, nirvana and pearl jam
Sludge is doom metal on a speedball instead of weed
sludge metal it's the most angry metal subgenre
eyehategod southern discomfort is a master piece
What is sludge metal? It's when you replace the banjo, fiddle, and accordion from locals that lives in the bayou and replace them with bass, drums, and electric guitar. When those hillbillies/southern musicians learn metal they come up with some weird, dark, and creative stuff.
Or some former ice cream shop worker here in California and some weirdos from some tiny town called Monsentanto in WA
(A few early Godflesh songs are sludge metal like Avalanche Master Song and Gore was another early example but were very much their own thing despite similar sources)
I was think of neurosis when I think of sludge
Suggestion. (off topic from the video). While you're on the music topic train it might be fun to make a video speculating which singer could become the new frontman for Fear Factory. It's a fun speculation and you could play some clips from their auditions without having to worry as much about copyright. (I think?) There's quite a few vocal covers out there as well as some bread crums hinted by Dino and others over the last year.
I dunno about a video, but I look forward to their new material! Who are the contenders?
@@whatsinameme5258 There's a bunch of musicians and creators that have made audition videos. Mostly small time. Some pretty good stuff over all but not sure if any of it fits just right.
seeing "rage faces" in this decade feels weird
cant talk about sludge metal without mentioning acid bath
Nice vid
Ok, I'm going to be that guy. No Melvins here? 😅
AGREE
Do one on industrial metal
That will be amazing
Acid bath, iron monkey, seven foot spleen, neurosis, corrupted, simian steel, buzzoven, weedsnake...
Great video! Can you do one on grindcore?
Fuck yes new occultation video
Mastodon are hard to define but I don't think Post-metal is quite accurate, Sludge + prog I suppose is similar to post though
now you gotta complete the trilogy and do stoner rock/stoner metal (they're a bit different)
Yeah, we even have post/stoner this days :)
Took one of the most upbeat Black Sabbath songs ever
No, that would be Never Say Die!
@@whatsinameme5258 True, but you wanted to accentuate how Sabbath was Doom Metal, and chose a less doomy song from their early albums, which are even more doomy than their later stuff. It's like, why even use a song from Paranoid. Im an asshole arent i
I just got myself to listen to Chat Pile lastest album and it is so good. I saw it is chategorized as sludge metal. So any band anyone want to recommend that is similar to Chat Pile? Thanks.
These videos really help me systematise my metal genre knowledge, thank you! Also, i have a question: is Acid Bath sludge metal?
Yes absolutely
@@paultaylor6873 thanks
Yes , but different
@@lunarstrain235 hm, i see...
Yes, in fact I almost included them, and judging by the comments they are a cult favourite. I would consider them pure Sludge, but they also have clean vocals interestingly enough. Maybe they are a bit of a Trad Doom/Sludge hybrid?
I always think of it as more closely related to stoner than doom.
Thx for this video man. Idk what it was, and was questioning what it was for the past few days this week.
Say, what does the sludge part of the name mean? PergProductions in his metal subgenres explained videos say how the sound comes from a guitar's "sludge". Idk what that means.
I guess you could say that because the slow Doomy sound meeting the crunch of Hardcore Punk. There might not be a way to absolutely define what that means. You either "feel" how it's Sludgey, or you don't.
Thx for ghr explanation. Idk, maybe I'll check some of Down and feel that sludgyness.
in post metal please mention intronaut bc they are really cool
I'd like to know when C.O.C. jumped ship from hardcore to southern metal.
Honestly this Genre just MOGGS every other one, srs high test.
A really heavy sludge band i discovered is Disembodied, they dont make any new songs sadly, bet they are really cool and not really known.
Disembodied is metalcore band
Is the Hardwired album cover literally just a mix of the covers of Odd Fellows and Facelift?
I didn't even make the Facelift connection, but you might be onto something.
@@whatsinameme5258 I've heard that James was asked about the similarities and stated that he'd never heard of Crowbar and that it was just a coincidence. I'm surprised he wouldn't have heard of them from Pepper while touring with CoC.
I see mastodon more of "progressive metal meets sludge" rather than Post-Metal/AtmoSludge, they can't really be compared to ISIS or Neurosis
So no acid bath then?
i know you havent heard of black'n'blue, i made it up
Alice in Chains es lo mejor ♡
Will southern be getting its own video or does this count for both?
I'll give it it's own video. Hopefully that won't be too repetitive though.
@@whatsinameme5258 oh cool. I ask because I remember in another video you use “Fuel” and “The Unforgiven II” as examples of Southern; and although maybe most Metallica or even metal fans for that matter might not agree, the later is like my favorite song so I’d love to find bands that sound similar if possible.
Down is my preferred band of the style. Their first 2 albums are the best. I'd recommend "Learn From This Mistake" by Down for a song with an Unforgiven 2 vibe.
That and Stone the Crow would be a good start.
Please do stoner metal
What is Sludge? A genre fed up with everyone's bs and is going to tell you about it.
real what do you think about crowbar
They're cool. I haven't listened to them a whole bunch, but I am definitely gonna check em out more. Really dig their song I used in the video.
Whare is slugdecore and sludge metalcore?
Needa big talking about Grief and Gaza
Calling Crowbar groove metal is probably the most insulting thing you can call Crowbar.
Crowbar (along with Eyehategod) basically invented sludge. Main difference is Kirk Windstein has more goth and post-punk influences. You can hear it in his melodies (and his tattoos).
Damageplan aren't Nusludge. LeFT is. Listen to LeFT
still don't understand how sludge is supposed to sound
It's pretty straightforward: slow Sabbathy guitar riffs, with Hardcore screaming vocals. I mean I'd argue its greater than the sum of it's parts, but if you want to boil it down, that's it.
@@whatsinameme5258 Sabbathy? Sorry, I'm not a metal whiz, I listen to A7X, Metallica, and Havok
@@Ezper-2099 Like Black Sabbath. I see you are new here. Welcome, and you are forgiven.
Isn't Motorhead Southern Metal?
They're Speed Metal, but they have done some more Bluesy material.
@@whatsinameme5258 yeah but the song Ace of Spades clearly holds resemblance to Southern Rock
I would argue Motorhead is influenced by Rockabilly rather than Southern Rock. There might be something to Lemmy saying "Motorhead is just Rock and Roll".
How you'd clasify MY genere? Is that only stoner?
Children of the grave is doom metal?😂
What would you call it? :p
@Occulturation It's considered regular Heavy Metal on wikipedia, just a little too fast to be considered Doom.
@@whatsinameme5258 none the less great video
Ha that’s funny…Metallica did rip off Crowbar😂
so its just metal, screw the other titles.
Sludge metal is NOT cool
And Eyehategod is as posey as Cult of Luna
Trad sludge is best exemplified in the triplet forms of for example Infest - Fetch the Pliers or Spazz's triplet dirges (even tho neither of those bands are sludge bands), because it's basically harmonically formless blues
Anyone interested should check out in no particular order: Mugwart / Leechmilk / Fistula / Hanging Rotten / Iron Monkey / Nightstick / Acid Bath
However, there are countless unknown bands playing slow dirty saturated tones, with more interest for grooves than notes
I hope pamela anderson loves this shes 56 old still beautiful
Alice In Chains and Metallica have nothing to do with sludge, we're not joking!
The best genre
Alice In Chains and Metallica have nothing to do with sludge, we're not joking!