HOW TO PLAY DOOM METAL - Episode 2: How To Get A Classic Doom Sound (Tutorial)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ค. 2021
  • Hey folks,
    as promised last week, this week we're taking a look at the sound of doom in the heyday of Black Sabbath, Candlemass, etc.
    It's not really a tutorial as much as it is a look at how this specific style of playing came to be, and the mindset needed to reproduce it today.
    I think the most important part here is that we need to focus on the techniques that were available at the time and ignore more modern or flashy ones for the sake of staying true to the original sound.
    That being said, I find it almost boring to just copy something.
    Put your own spin on it, maybe incorporate some of these ideas into your sludge/stoner riffs, just to mix things up a bit?
    As always, thanks a million for sticking around!
    If you like this sort of stuff, consider subscribing, or telling your friends about this channel, it would be highly appreciated.
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  • @TheBaconWizard
    @TheBaconWizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Just for the sake of history: Sabbath didn't tune-down in order to be heavy, they did it because Tony Iommi had injured fingers and needed less tension in the strings in order to play. He played light-guage strings for the same reason.

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True.

    • @kittavares4334
      @kittavares4334 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He didn’t downtune to C# until Masters Of Reality. But you’re right. he used banjo strings at first to help him with his handicap.

    • @matthewlagrange3000
      @matthewlagrange3000 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Hetfield, who almost lost his arm in a pyro accident, CRINGED when Tony showed him his fingertips up close. It's pretty bad. But, if that injury hadn't happened, would we have hard rock music as it is today?

    • @kobrian58
      @kobrian58 ปีที่แล้ว

      Question? Did Sabbath go back to E standard for a time because Ozzy left and was replaced by Dio, a singer in a higher and wider range?

    • @TheBaconWizard
      @TheBaconWizard ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kobrian58 VERY good question, and I don't know. Nor can I trust that any of my digital copies of the music are true to original...

  • @chinomedina88
    @chinomedina88 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I find it very amusing and inspiring how Tony Iommi invented one of the heaviest genres in rock music using the lightest strings available back then (even for today's "standards"). It throws all the dumb string gauge mysticism out of the window and I f'n love it.

  • @guyguyguyjean
    @guyguyguyjean หลายเดือนก่อน

    just discovered this channel,well done!!! Really entertaining!! Enjoyable AND great instruction!!

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Sometimes I also make videos 😅

  • @williamanderson2203
    @williamanderson2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love it! Simple: tune it down, crank up the gain and hit some power chords. It doesn't get much simpler, but what you get is apocalyptic magic sound. Great video, man. Subscribed.

  • @darkally82
    @darkally82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lots of great insights about the music, gear and sound. Really enjoying your vids so thanks Nicolas!

  • @apothecide.1
    @apothecide.1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this, trying to get that classic doom/sludge style into my compositions

  • @ushnicyuvnikof2748
    @ushnicyuvnikof2748 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude. Telecaster + locking tuners + 4-way switch. All problems solved. Doom to your hearts content.

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, don't get me wrong, I live a tele as much as the next person, but I do think that classic sound needs a humbucker that has a decent amount of output - or failing that a nice set of p90s.
      Sure, there are teles with humbuckers and / or p90s, but when I here 'tele' I think of the classic two single coil configuration.

    • @ushnicyuvnikof2748
      @ushnicyuvnikof2748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nicolas Perrault The new 4th position turns both single coils into 1 bigger, more powerful humbucker. Like the Jim root Telecaster from slipknot, that's what he uses, that's why his signature model Telecaster has the 4th position (it's a $30 mod), it sounds nothing like Telecaster pickup, it sounds like the mother of all humbuckers.

    • @ushnicyuvnikof2748
      @ushnicyuvnikof2748 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look up "Fuzzlord - Doom Metal Guitars" the Telecaster with the mods I refer to was featured on that series it has its own entire episode.

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I've just had a tele in with the 4th position. It's definitely fat and handles fuzzes really well, but I don't really like it for candlemass/early sabbath type sounds. It does the weedeater type sludge stuff really well though.

  • @lanceg1312
    @lanceg1312 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this string gauge thing is blowing my mind. I've tuned down a lot before, but it never really did what I was wanting, and I think this is because I changed to heavier strings. thank you for this.

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, strings can have an amazing impact on the feeling of the instrument and thusly the sound as well. It's definitely worth experimenting with. Hope you find what you're looking for!

  • @mikeg6258
    @mikeg6258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like your video's, gently tickled the subscribe button. Keep it up, cheers Mike

  • @biffoi4531
    @biffoi4531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wonderful. I could listen for hours.

  • @Osculum_Ex_Animo
    @Osculum_Ex_Animo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid, subscribed

  • @immonkey2074
    @immonkey2074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sick Parker Guitar, I have one of those myself. They play like a dream!

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, it's a shame the company isn't around anymore.

  • @Ricktammy269
    @Ricktammy269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice man! Thanks

  • @tonyjones1560
    @tonyjones1560 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is a doom metal guitar science class. Good stuff!

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks mate! Glad you liked it

  • @luisgoregonzalez7394
    @luisgoregonzalez7394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vídeo!

  • @realdrdork
    @realdrdork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    badass!!!

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parker?! Not my bag Amigo.
    Right after Covid hit? I had to order one of those new Epiphone worn P90 SGs in that freakin' kickass green finish! Instantly slapped some Kluson Revolution 19:1 ratio tuners on it with a set of 12-54 Heavycore Dunlop strings. Set up and tuned it to standard D/drop C. It didn't exactly wanna do all that at first, but I broke it in well : )

  • @doobie8425
    @doobie8425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And don’t forget iommi used banjo strings for the longest…

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, but I wouldn't recommend you try that. They play weird.
      Although if you're in need of looser strings, Ernie Ball makes some extra slinky ones that will get close without feeling so weirdly brittle.
      But I'm sure a good custom string builder, like skull strings could make a set that would absolutely match the vibe.

  • @nanominaa
    @nanominaa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could you make video about Sludge?

  • @eaglebauer944
    @eaglebauer944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First two Sabbath albums are in E standard.

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True. But I like Vol 4 best, so there's that 😅

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have to set your action high to get the intonation to work right. I almost broke an Agile LP to get it to take standard C.

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or you could adjust the intonation at the bridge. Action should only be raised as a last mile solution for tuning and intonation issues, as the effect of any inconsistencies in pressure by your fretting hand will be greater the higher the action gets, making it more difficult to intonate properly.

    • @reneebear3641
      @reneebear3641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also don’t try to match the tension you’d get in E standard when you tune down, they’re gonna get flubbier & there’s little way around that, & if you’re looking for a doom-y sound then leaving it playably flubby is best

  • @arnowillekes7979
    @arnowillekes7979 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I put some heavy gauge strings (52-11) on a cheap jazzmaster copy to tune down to somewhere around C and stuff, though nicely distorted, sounds rather neat and ‘tidy’, so true that the standard strings tuned down make a ‘messier’ but also more interesting sound…making heavy and intense ‘scary’ music depends on dissonance, that’s why a lot of ‘heavy’ bands of late sound more like eurotrash productions to me 😂😂😂

  • @hunkwasbisyan007
    @hunkwasbisyan007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:52 Thats a Tiger Mew!!!! 😍

  • @MaxRud80
    @MaxRud80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dude! Tony had problems with his fingers !!! no need to invent prejudices, the doom sounds cool and that's it!

  • @kittavares4334
    @kittavares4334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure if I agree with your “slightly detuned guitar” theory. Guitar in general is crappy when it comes to intonation, no matter what gauge you use. Take a tuner and play random you’ll see (the first fret and the g string are the worst), even if your instrument was handled by a pro. Even finger pressure can screw your intonation (isn’t crushing the string a trick Tom Fischer is famous for?)

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know that guitars are generally badly intonated. Still, go test it out.
      We're talking less than 10 cent detuned, so nothing super crazy.

  • @FUSIONJAZZMAN420
    @FUSIONJAZZMAN420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "microtonal not unheard of in Western music" Besides blues...

  • @_MetaL
    @_MetaL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But Symptom of the Universe tho

  • @Luk4zguy97
    @Luk4zguy97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10s in C# is straight up silly

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so too, but apparently there are people who swear by it 🤷‍♂️

    • @Luk4zguy97
      @Luk4zguy97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NicolasPerrault I play 13s in C standard. I gotta say, the pitch drift on thinner strings is attractive to me but I don't like the lack of sustain.

  • @fclefjefff4041
    @fclefjefff4041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tutorials like this just encourage hacks and copycats . If someone needs to be “taught” how to play doom, they probably shouldn’t be playing doom.

    • @NicolasPerrault
      @NicolasPerrault  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Is this where I point that... that's like just your opinion, man

    • @eggpod4567
      @eggpod4567 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's only so many notes and variations of sounds.
      Everyone's a copy cat one way or the other. Whether you like it or not.
      This guy's videos are bad ass.